In episode 3223, I wrote that Tawny had a little bit of Sheila in her (her scheme to use Becky's baby was similar to Sheila taking Lauren's baby) and here she's advising Amber to threaten Rick with an expensive divorce which is _exactly_ what Sheila did to Eric when their marriage was falling apart. I also argued that Tawny was the devil on her daughter's shoulder and here Amber exorcises the devil: "You took an innocent girl and turned her into a monster!" Amber is basically saying she doesn't want to be a villain and the "division of labor" between her and her mother (see episode 3192) where Tawny comes up with and does all the truly bad stuff for Amber, means Tawny can take most of the blame and Amber can remain a Bad Girl who's not a Villain.
Yes! By getting rid of Tawny, Amber is trying to get rid of the evil within herself. Still some of what she is saying doesn't ring quite true - she talks about how what they did was so terrible, but this was _already_ true a year ago, and has been true every day since. And yet Amber is only realizing the error of her ways now that she doesn't have a choice. It would have been more convincing, from a redemption point of view, if Amber had come to this conclusion on her own, when she actually had a _choice_ to keep the secret and remain happily married to Rick, rather than it happening out of necessity when Becky had already told her that she was taking the baby back. As it is, Amber doesn't actually get to _sacrifice_ anything for the sake of what's right. She is only accepting the loss of what she's already lost - so she actually has nothing to lose by telling Rick the truth.
@@annieo6527 Absolutely. It's a very convenient moment of moral clarity for Amber and one she clearly wouldn't have had if Becky hadn't tried to reclaim her baby. I see Becky and Tawny as the two sides to Amber (angel and devil) pulling her in both directions and this time, Becky won out.
Andrea( Tawny) and Adrienne ( Amber) became great friends while and after working on the B& B Adrienne said of Andreas passing she was devastated and they were extremely close and she thought of her as mom.😢
LOL, so true! It's so strange seeing Brooke and Kimberly sitting next to each other on that plane and having a friendly conversation knowing their entire friendship is based on trying to break up Rick and Amber (and Brooke having to hide her engagement ring throughout the conversation).
@@annieo6527 As much as I think this season has done a better job of integrating storylines, I find this aspect hard to buy i.e. that none of "the kids" (Amber/Rick/Kimberly) suspect anything about Brooke and Thorne. Especially when they weren't even hiding it in Venice or on the Forrester jet!
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, that is strange. Thorne and Brooke were really obvious on the plane. If anything, Kimberly should have paid attention because she would be aware of the situation with Macy, Thorne and Brooke.
@@NewYorkNick0607well I keep saying I wonder how Kimberly didn't see Brooke and Thorne canoodling on the plane together and added up 2+2 😕 It would have been better if she realised it on the trip and decided not to help Brooke with Amber anymore bc she felt betrayed that Brooke would be with Thorne behind macy's back
@@jonfoerster I don't think Connor has ever seen these later seasons so he wouldn't know who Amber or any of these people are. He said he started watching the episodes in order on the channel because of his mom.
I really stopped watching B&B after Stephanie died off the show. Then Ron Moss stopped playing Ridge's character. That was it for me. I watch it now here and there but not everyday like in these days. I was in high school and I used to set my VCR to record Y&R and B&B everyday because I could not miss one show. ❤❤
@@michelek5207 she was nominated 3 times.She won an Emmy in 2001 for Outstanding younger actress for her role as Amber Moore The scene that won her the Emmy was Spoiler below Deacon Little Eric’s biological father comes to take him away because the courts awarded him custody. She and Rick had been reunited and taking care of him She cry’s and begs him “ You can’t take my baby” and falls to her knees as he walks out the door. “ Oh God ,He took my baby” and she and Rick embrace while she is hysterically crying.
Amber did all of this and goes on to do more all on her own. Tawny may have been whispering in her ear. But amber made the conscious desicion to take that baby and present it as Rick's every step of the way.
@@NewYorkNick0607 no I actually haven't had any pets since I moved away from my hometown over 9 years ago. My cat still lived with my parents but died in 2016.
Given how much growth Amber shows in these episodes, it's a great pity that she regresses so significantly by the time the Thomas and then Liam storylines come around. She repeats the same mistakes, except without any real remorse or regret. It's a case of a character being completely reconceived for the sake of plot development. It's disappointing because, for a time, she does actually become a likeable and redeemable heroine.
I see Tina Lord Roberts from One life to live. The show was not the same after she left. At the time it wasn’t known why Years later it was told she left her role in New York And moved because her life was continuously being threatened by a stalker.
Certainly Amber cannot play the victim and put all the blame on her mother. She revealed the truth to Rick only because Becky was resolute in taking away her child.
Another way she’s just like Brooke. Her self awareness and accountability level is non existent. Just like Amber blaming Tawny for what she agreed to, Brooke’s angry with Eric and Ridge for her choosing to kiss ridge
I agree it would have looked better if Amber had actually come to the conclusion on her own that Rick needed to know the truth, rather than being cornered into telling him because Becky was taking back the baby.
Maybe we're not supposed to wonder this but... did Amber bury Rick's son deep enough so that wild animals wouldn't be able to get to him? I doubt it. And that's just another thing that will keep Rick awake at night now.
Rick's not staying awake at night thinking about anything else but himself. If you listen to his entire tirade last 2 episodes, it's been about himself. He hasn't once asked where the baby is buried so he can give his actual son a proper funeral.
@@TriniT21 true! Talking about everything he's "sacrificed" - which is what exactly? He's still getting his education. He's living in Stephanie's mansion. He has all the babysitting he'll ever need (for himself and the baby). He may have missed a few college parties.
@@annieo6527 and it isn't like he was scrounging for money to take care of him, Amber and the baby. He's just mad he missed out on frat life and Kimberly. I cringed everytime he said the word "I"... Which was alot of times.
I guess we're also meant to believe that through his so-called "sacrifices", Rick has also matured into a selfless, decent and committed husband and father. If anything these scenes show that he's remained an overgrown, self-absorbed toddler.
Its just insane that baby steffie will be around the age amber is now....when amber pulls this on liam. And steffie will be in love with a man, her fathers age.
*The madness of the soap SORAS* 🤣 In 2000 Amber is going through the baby drama with Rick/Becky while Steffy is still a baby and Thomas not that much older. In 2004 Amber will be the one Thomas loses his virginity to, while Rick will have some dates with someone in Thomas's age. In 2011 Amber will try to pull this (fake paternity) with Liam again, while Steffy will be in love with Liam's father.
Sorry Tawny, back to the trailer park you go! 😂😂 That's actually not a bad thing, though. Considering all of the ridiculous drama (even aside from Amber switching babies) these rich people go through, I'll take the trailer park any day of the week. More money, more problems. 😊
In episode 3223, I wrote that Tawny had a little bit of Sheila in her (her scheme to use Becky's baby was similar to Sheila taking Lauren's baby) and here she's advising Amber to threaten Rick with an expensive divorce which is _exactly_ what Sheila did to Eric when their marriage was falling apart. I also argued that Tawny was the devil on her daughter's shoulder and here Amber exorcises the devil: "You took an innocent girl and turned her into a monster!" Amber is basically saying she doesn't want to be a villain and the "division of labor" between her and her mother (see episode 3192) where Tawny comes up with and does all the truly bad stuff for Amber, means Tawny can take most of the blame and Amber can remain a Bad Girl who's not a Villain.
Yes! By getting rid of Tawny, Amber is trying to get rid of the evil within herself.
Still some of what she is saying doesn't ring quite true - she talks about how what they did was so terrible, but this was _already_ true a year ago, and has been true every day since. And yet Amber is only realizing the error of her ways now that she doesn't have a choice. It would have been more convincing, from a redemption point of view, if Amber had come to this conclusion on her own, when she actually had a _choice_ to keep the secret and remain happily married to Rick, rather than it happening out of necessity when Becky had already told her that she was taking the baby back.
As it is, Amber doesn't actually get to _sacrifice_ anything for the sake of what's right. She is only accepting the loss of what she's already lost - so she actually has nothing to lose by telling Rick the truth.
@@annieo6527 Absolutely. It's a very convenient moment of moral clarity for Amber and one she clearly wouldn't have had if Becky hadn't tried to reclaim her baby. I see Becky and Tawny as the two sides to Amber (angel and devil) pulling her in both directions and this time, Becky won out.
@@NewYorkNick0607 exactly! The angel and devil on each shoulder.
Andrea( Tawny) and Adrienne ( Amber) became great friends while and after working on the B& B
Adrienne said of Andreas passing she was devastated and they were extremely close and she thought of her as mom.😢
Sure did and she is also close with Marissa (Becky), I've seen photos of her at Adrienne's baby shower years ago.❤
Brooke is the expert on using a work relationship to interfere with a marriage so naturally she would give Kimberly this advice. 😆
LOL, so true!
It's so strange seeing Brooke and Kimberly sitting next to each other on that plane and having a friendly conversation knowing their entire friendship is based on trying to break up Rick and Amber (and Brooke having to hide her engagement ring throughout the conversation).
@@annieo6527 As much as I think this season has done a better job of integrating storylines, I find this aspect hard to buy i.e. that none of "the kids" (Amber/Rick/Kimberly) suspect anything about Brooke and Thorne. Especially when they weren't even hiding it in Venice or on the Forrester jet!
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, that is strange. Thorne and Brooke were really obvious on the plane. If anything, Kimberly should have paid attention because she would be aware of the situation with Macy, Thorne and Brooke.
@@NewYorkNick0607well I keep saying I wonder how Kimberly didn't see Brooke and Thorne canoodling on the plane together and added up 2+2 😕
It would have been better if she realised it on the trip and decided not to help Brooke with Amber anymore bc she felt betrayed that Brooke would be with Thorne behind macy's back
@@TriniT21 Right. And that would further explain why she suddenly decided to give up on breaking up Amber and Rick.
The two scariest things on a flight:
😱
• Turbulence
• These closeups of Brooke: 5:35, 7:27, 8:53
You missed 4:56
Where is @memento lately?
The only thing scarier than snakes on a plane is Brooke on a plane!
@@Esi-741 I've seen memento here and there but I haven't seen Connor in forever! I posted something on the next episode he would appreciate. 😉
@@jonfoerster I don't think Connor has ever seen these later seasons so he wouldn't know who Amber or any of these people are. He said he started watching the episodes in order on the channel because of his mom.
The way the show is written in those years were amazing.
These days it’s such an embarrassment
In 2024 B& B is absolutely 💯 Ludicrous
I really stopped watching B&B after Stephanie died off the show. Then Ron Moss stopped playing Ridge's character. That was it for me. I watch it now here and there but not everyday like in these days. I was in high school and I used to set my VCR to record Y&R and B&B everyday because I could not miss one show. ❤❤
Ive never liked the Amber character but Adrienne killed it in this scene. Great acting.
Absolutely
Yes she did !! Told her mother right off !!!
Did Adrienne ever win an Emmy for playing Amber? This was definitely an Emmy performance!!!
@@michelek5207 she was nominated 3 times.She won an Emmy in 2001 for Outstanding younger actress for her role as Amber Moore
The scene that won her the Emmy was
Spoiler below
Deacon Little Eric’s biological father comes to take him away because the courts awarded him custody.
She and Rick had been reunited and taking care of him
She cry’s and begs him “ You can’t take my baby” and falls to her knees as he walks out the door.
“ Oh God ,He took my baby” and she and Rick embrace while she is hysterically crying.
Amber is disgusted by Twany's scheaming ?? That is a switch 😂😂
i think she always was but now she is strong enough to stand up to her
Amber did all of this and goes on to do more all on her own. Tawny may have been whispering in her ear. But amber made the conscious desicion to take that baby and present it as Rick's every step of the way.
@@songriver1232I could stand Amber's character. .Totall waste IMO !!!
Won’t be long until Kimberly finds out about Brooke and throne,
The Lord Has Risen...though not as many times as Taylor.
I wonder if Taylor was a cat in a past life- she has 9 lives(I'm a cat person so this is a compliment).
You can post a sacrilegious comment for all to see, and my response about the place you’re going didn’t make it through! 🤬
@@Esi-741 Like the Lord, the algo doesn't give equally 😄
@@brendanbressler9807 Do you have cat/s? I used to be a cat person but now I have a cat and a dog.
@@NewYorkNick0607 no I actually haven't had any pets since I moved away from my hometown over 9 years ago. My cat still lived with my parents but died in 2016.
Rick looks like he should be part of N'Sync.
Lol. Def has the boy band look lol. He should start singing "Bye, bye, bye..."
Yes! He does look like he belongs in a 90s boy band.
Definitely looks like he’s in a boy band.
I can’t believe I’m seeing comments that were made 24 years ago when this aired😂😂😂😂
@@robertjose1270huh?
Given how much growth Amber shows in these episodes, it's a great pity that she regresses so significantly by the time the Thomas and then Liam storylines come around. She repeats the same mistakes, except without any real remorse or regret. It's a case of a character being completely reconceived for the sake of plot development. It's disappointing because, for a time, she does actually become a likeable and redeemable heroine.
Funny thing is..Amber had a chance to tell the truth..But she chose not too !!
They all flew to Venice on the company jet, but Ridge Taylor Brooke and Kimberly all flew back commercial. Did anyone else catch that?
Probably because it would be way to expensive for the company plane to make so many seperate trips
@@songriver1232 but isn't that the point of having a company jet? I'm sure they get tax deals lol
All I can see watching Tawny is Andrea Evans' character Rebecca on Passions. 😂
I see Tina Lord Roberts from One life to live.
The show was not the same after she left.
At the time it wasn’t known why
Years later it was told she left her role in New York
And moved because her life was continuously being threatened by a stalker.
@@-Lily7415They caught the stalker In 1999
@@MrCraigblaze I know thank God
The actress died last year.
@@DD31595 Yes,of breast cancer😢
Amber loved Rick truly not for his money she never used his money never bought cloths with his money or anything
Is this the end of Tawny’s run? I think they could have made her a good rival for Brooke.
She returns for the horrendously terrible 2010-2011 Hipe-Liam-Amber triangle that regresses all of Amber’s character development.
Brooke is one of those older women who hangs around with beautiful young girls like Kimberly hoping it will rub off.
Thorne would pick Brooke over young Kimberly even when she throws herself at him.
You're troll won't age well
@@prasad9002 I can practically hear the chafing from your posts.
@@sharonstewart4882 😆😂😂
@@sharonstewart4882 🤣🤣🤣
@@sharonstewart4882😂😂🤣
Doesn’t Kimberly have a contract with FC? She can’t just quit like that, can she?
Maybe Brooke has the same lax attitude with employment contracts as the last CEO.
Contract. Smontract.
FC doesn't do contracts.
How is it that Amber and her mom come back and she tries the same trick on Liam
That second time (2010-2011) the writing didn't even try to make Amber likable.
It then clearly was just about the money and nothing else.
It looks like Kimberly is following Grandma Haircut's fashion tips.
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Certainly Amber cannot play the victim and put all the blame on her mother. She revealed the truth to Rick only because Becky was resolute in taking away her child.
I think Amber was going to tell the truth eventually because IMO keeping the secret was getting to her.
Another way she’s just like Brooke. Her self awareness and accountability level is non existent. Just like Amber blaming Tawny for what she agreed to, Brooke’s angry with Eric and Ridge for her choosing to kiss ridge
I agree it would have looked better if Amber had actually come to the conclusion on her own that Rick needed to know the truth, rather than being cornered into telling him because Becky was taking back the baby.
Amber is as delusional as Brooke but Adrienne makes Amber more likeable.
@@galoutlaw8089 but Brooke never did anything as abominable as Amber did. She should have spent some time in prison.
Why doesn't rick want to see amber again?
Because she told him the truth about the baby!
….have you not been watching the show?
Even in 2012, the truth about the picture she sets up Rick's eccentric fashion at the end of the day, as well as drugging Hope!
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Maybe Brooke should go on !@# therapy with Doctor Drew..She could teach him a thing or 4..😂😂
Oh The Peace before the Storm for Tridge! Hurricane Morgan Is Coming!
Morgan is a real nightmare for ❤Tridge❤
Well done Amber 👍👏
Maybe we're not supposed to wonder this but... did Amber bury Rick's son deep enough so that wild animals wouldn't be able to get to him? I doubt it. And that's just another thing that will keep Rick awake at night now.
Rick's not staying awake at night thinking about anything else but himself. If you listen to his entire tirade last 2 episodes, it's been about himself. He hasn't once asked where the baby is buried so he can give his actual son a proper funeral.
@@TriniT21 true! Talking about everything he's "sacrificed" - which is what exactly? He's still getting his education. He's living in Stephanie's mansion. He has all the babysitting he'll ever need (for himself and the baby). He may have missed a few college parties.
@@annieo6527 and it isn't like he was scrounging for money to take care of him, Amber and the baby.
He's just mad he missed out on frat life and Kimberly.
I cringed everytime he said the word "I"... Which was alot of times.
I guess we're also meant to believe that through his so-called "sacrifices", Rick has also matured into a selfless, decent and committed husband and father. If anything these scenes show that he's remained an overgrown, self-absorbed toddler.
Once again I’m flummoxed by this show. Are we supposed to LIKE Kimberly? And why does she dress like a Real Housewife? Isn’t she a teen? 🤔
Its just insane that baby steffie will be around the age amber is now....when amber pulls this on liam. And steffie will be in love with a man, her fathers age.
*The madness of the soap SORAS* 🤣
In 2000 Amber is going through the baby drama with Rick/Becky while Steffy is still a baby and Thomas not that much older.
In 2004 Amber will be the one Thomas loses his virginity to, while Rick will have some dates with someone in Thomas's age.
In 2011 Amber will try to pull this (fake paternity) with Liam again, while Steffy will be in love with Liam's father.
Sorry Tawny, back to the trailer park you go! 😂😂
That's actually not a bad thing, though. Considering all of the ridiculous drama (even aside from Amber switching babies) these rich people go through, I'll take the trailer park any day of the week. More money, more problems. 😊
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