Your batting a 1000 with me Dr.Davis I'll be watching these videos again and again and I'll send them to my fair weather friends also , hopefully it will open up a dialogue with them . Thanks for all you do .
SDA get sooooo hung up on the very words in Hebrews of the “Holy Place, Most Holy Place” that they don’t even try and understand the context and flow of what is actually being said!! Context is everything ! There are several places even in the OLD TESTAMENT that the “Most Holy Place” is literally called “Holy Place”. I would like to see SDA read and explain Leviticus 16:2 and tell us what’s in focus. Haha. “and the LORD said to Moses: “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the HOLY PLACE inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat.” Lev 16:2
Dr Davis thanks for all your hard work, defending the Bible and dismantling the false Investigative Judgment prophesy - the veil will be lifted off some who really seek the truth but sadly some in Adventism love Ellen more than Jesus
the thief on the cross is one of my favorite stories that contradicts SDA views as not supported ! The thief had no requirement as taught by EGW , all he did is _ he realized he was next to the King of Kings , the Lord of Lords . He wasn't baptized , we don't know how wicket he was , but at that particular moment he realized who he was and who he was next to . I love your series on Investigative Judgment . It always made zero sense to me . I feel that true doctrinal SDA must be torn internally because EGW's teachings don't grant salvation unless you are perfect on this side !
I talked to the advent defense league last Sabbath, and I'm suppose to talk to them again on the same issue, them having little horn coming before the large horn in Daniel 8. To make sure my comment posts on youtube, I'll post the show link under this comment
ruclips.net/video/jik40DbFTnM/видео.html 1:25:00 mark I go over my question one more time. Most of the video is them talking around my question. Hopefully I get a response today.
@@DrAD767 I am one SDA who never believed in the investigative judgement I never believed the SOP was EGW I never believed Michael was Jesus And I always questioned the Sunday law But I believed the Sabbath because it’s within the Ten Commandments I never said anything to anyone because I knew I would be viewed in a strange way No we are realising the “errors “ Is it strange to ask who then has the Truth? Given that you have so many other isms and other world religions that are all wrong Where does this leave a Truth seeker ?
Can do you a video explaining what then would be the mark of the beast? And how this would take place? The return of Christ etc? Thank you in advance🙏🏼
The bible says that Jesus called the "believers" the Pharisees.. a brood of vipers teaching as His Father's Word, the doctrines of men. I found out first hand that I was not good enough to be a SDA, and this by a bunch of self appointed, self-righteous people!! Im happy that happened because the Father then allowed my eyes to be opened. The Word says there is NOT ONE righteous No Not One!! I believe the one who died for me, and Not man!!
I Stumbled across your you tube … I struggle with investigative judgement!!! Big time .. I asked THE PEOPLE to find me one Bible verse that speaks of investigative judgement…. Still waiting… have you listen to Tim Jennings Come and reason ?? He presents things in different light …
I'm glad you "stumbled" upon my channel. The IJ is indeed tricky and sly within SDA-ism. Please understand: Without this doctrine, there is no SDA-ism. It is the hallmark of all they believe. This is not to discount everything the group believes....no. But this heretical teaching has caused many needless fear and anxiety.
Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; “Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.” Hebrews 6:19&20 Once one studies within the veil ( which only ever means the Most Holy Place) -it’s clear there that Jesus didn’t stay in the Holy place for 1800 years.
Not just that but it says “after the order of Malchezidek”. Malchezidek was a high priest and Jesus is a high priest, Thus, the veil Jesus entered is where only the High Priest could-the most holy place.
@msskylark1 Are your senses dull? Or, perhaps you failed to read my reply to you on a different thread. If you cannot bring substance, rather than personal attacks, to the conversation, then you need to go away.
Their understanding of salvation is so warped and twisted; the fact I allowed myself to dwell in that apostasy for as long as I did is shameful. Even though they've shifted to the NKJV, Heb 9:12 reads Most Holy Place, and I know *MANY* who have crossed out the word "Most" so to align with their heretical teachings.
Hi Dr. Davis, I struggle with the IJ teaching, and see very little importance of when it starts (i.e. 1844), but I do see clear evidence of a judgement. The book of Revelation is clear that there is a judgement taking place and it appears to be happening before Christ returns. Do you agree that there will be a judgement? That all will be judged? The judgement is completed before the advent of Christ. There appears to be a sanctuary in heaven. And, that names will be recorded in books? Hour of His judgement has come Rev 6-8 For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God Rom 14:10 All will be judged, not just the lost Jude 1:14-15. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil. II Cor 5:10 Great white throne - books open and judgement…Rev 20:11-13 Judgement set - books are open… Dan 7:9-10 Jesus is our intercessor/advocate - 1 Jn 2:1, Rom 8:34. There is a sanctuary in heaven - Rev 15:5-8. Judgement given to the saints - Dan 7:22 This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering… II Thes 1:5 Silence in Heaven - After Judgement is complete…Rev 8:10 The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” Rev 16:17 God Bless!
Hi Tracy. As you move thru the videos, I’ll answer your questions. In short, there is indeed a judgment. Also, the so-called heavenly sanctuary is Heaven itself. Further, all will indeed be judged and saved by the same act, and yes, it’s prior to the second advent.
@@blueticks8423 Milton's text USED to be required reading in English literature. Perhaps the SDAs had something to do with its demise in the curriculum!
The first veil is what was rent from top to bottom-Mt 27:51 Only priests were permitted beyond the first veil, and only high priests were permitted beyond the second veil Hebrews 9:6,7 The vail of Exodus 26:36-37 is the one that was rent in twain, not the vail of Exodus 26:31-35. 1 Chronicles 6:49 - The work of every priest was a type of Christ’s work, but the common priests performed work only in the court and the first apartment of the sanctuary, while the high priest officiated not only in the court and the first apartment as well as the common priests, but went alone into the holy of holies. Aaron at times offered burnt offerings on the brazen altar in the court.
@michaelbrutsche75 That’s a good question, which Paul answers. He said *priests* go into and thru the first; only *high priests* go into and thru the second. In this statement, Paul is stating this is exactly what Jesus did upon His ascension.
Dr Davis for your question regarding what was Jesus doing before 1844. Please ask yourself what was the priest doing the whole year before he went to the most holy place on the 10th day of the 7th month. Why did God gave us the Tabernacle on earth.
Our God tells us in 1Thessa. 5:19-21, Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. We are further told in Isa.8:20, To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this word, it is because there's no light in them. Dr. Davis please explain for us Dan.7:9-14. Tell what this seen is all about.
From all I’ve read, which is extensive, all the evidence points to that very thing. Is it any different today with ministries like Amazing Facts et al.?
Hi, just wondering why God have an investigative judgment? Maybe, not that He needs to investigate, but for the sake of Other beings. 1 Corinthians 4:9 for example?
There are several schools of thought re: this idea, as to why it might be necessary. My concern is, for those who believe the external agencies have to see it lends itself to not trusting God's judgment. The very fact, we have Jesus' sacrifice on the cross is evidence enough of what God did both to save us and to demonstrate His justice and mercy. The passage you shared from 1 Cor 4:9 must be read in its context, and not in isolation, as many SDAs (and other Christians) are want to do. BOTTOM LINE: No IJ is necessary because God demonstrated everything at the cross. He provided a solution to the sin problem.
Take a look at the background video, it'll give the big picture. It's just a history of what I endured. My main sticking point is to highlight their unorthodox teachings that are damnable heresies: Investigative Judgment, 2300-day prophecy & 1844, Sunday-keeping is the mark of the beast, second beast of Rev 2 is the USA, and Ellen White is the spirit of prophecy.
Matt.4:4..Deut.8:3.. Perhaps eating a vegetarian diet perhaps keeping the fees perhaps perhaps!! .. keeping the thieves and resting and and actually eating right might not be the best of physical health for physical health that's if somebody doesn't know what the heck they're doing!!! Deeeh!!🤪
Perhaps you can do me and everyone else a favor: spell and grammar check *BEFORE* posting. To the untrained eye, what you’ve shared is mindless drivel.
1844 was the start of the investigative judgment orbthe cleasing of the heavenlyvsanctuary read Hebrews . God wants us to alfllict our soul today . Jesusbsaid many would be called but FEW CHOSEN. EGW has said Godnhas His people in ALL.CHURCHES. Is thatvwhat you are doing???Warning people of the xoming destruction of the world is not judging them . Yo can be confusing . You are teaching what I believe but give it a different application. EGW saysbwe are to treat everyone as a candidate for heaven .
Well? Are you going to provide some biblical evidence? All I see you do is provide your opinions. Scaring people into your church pews is not giving them Christ or God. Telling them some dead woman who suffered from brain damage was God's prophet is such a deception. Telling them that have to get back to an Edenic diet if they hope to be accepted before a holy God is actually satanic, and yet, you folk simply can't see it. It's time to wake up out of your slumber!!!
For the sincere ones coming in here seeking the truth. First off I just want to say to those who are coming here because they always had questions about the I.J (Investigative Judgement), that this topic is presented on this channel by an ex-sda so this is probably not the best place to learn of our position, (I'm an SDA). As I explained on Myles similar channel this topic is very controversial and to think I or the Dr. D. can convince you here with our words is not my goal or belief. I'm here simply to point you in the right direction on where we (SDA) stand on this position. @ 15:12 He says heres an interesting point to consider. Then he references Acts 7:56 saying its pivotal and he ask "doing what" @ 15:37 saying exactly what the Paul tells us in the book of Hebrews. Sounds like a stretch to me. Stephen exclaimed that he saw the son of God at the right hand of God in particular because those words were considered basphemous. @18:05 in this video he says " here is my seminal point of refutation...the veil was torn in two...and thus the entire compartment became the most holy place'. @ 17:44 EGW is seen to have said Jesus went in to the most holy "within the veil". But HEB 6:19 is used to say that Jesus went straight to the most holy "within the veil" at His ascension. See the confusion here? For the sake of saving me time and space I will cite these.... "Ford [Desmond Ford] saw the imagery of ‘within the veil’ and ‘entrance into heaven’ in the book of Hebrews as pointing to the cross and ascension of Christ as the fulfillment of the antitypical Day of Atonement. Many Adventist scholars now tend to affirm that the phrase “within the veil” in Hebrews 6:19 refers primarily to the inner veil to the Most Holy Place. However, this does not indicate the antitypical Day of Atonement." " ... the imagery in Hebrews is better understood in connection with the antitypical inauguration of the heavenly sanctuary, its new priesthood, the new covenant, and Christ’s heavenly enthronement as a kingly priest. All of these aspects are emphasized in Hebrews, all are linked to inauguration, and none of them have any connections with the Day of Atonement. Hebrews 10:20 explicitly refers to ‘inauguration’ itself (enekainisen ‘to inaugurate’). Hebrews is seen as highlighting the better access of the newly inaugurated new covenant in Christ, in comparison to limited access and ineffectiveness of the old covenant. The focus of this position is now a much narrower claim about the antitypical Day of Atonement." encyclopedia.adventist.org/article?id=7FOL In other words, the notion that type met antitype (antitypical) stopped once Jesus died on the cross, so our position on the veil is not prominent as we see in our 28 beliefs (#24). "It may be true that some presentations and understandings of the investigative judgment have undermined gospel assurance. The question is whether this doctrine is necessarily incompatible with Christian assurance. Historically, Adventists have sometimes neglected the gospel but differences may also be due to certain emphases. For example, Ellen White could give presentations of the investigative judgment that emphasized warning and preparation or ones that emphasized assurance. Different emphases do not constitute contradiction. There are many examples of assurance-based understandings of salvation within Adventism." encyclopedia.adventist.org/article?id=7FOL For a quick 8 minute video explanation of the I. J for those who never even heard of this. ruclips.net/video/qqqwlkXl95M/видео.html Please prayerfully study these things for yourself with an open mind. God will reveal the truth to you. God bless
You may not use any Adventist literature or quotes from Ellen White. Please try using the Bible, and the Bible only, if able. For those sincerely seeking, please fast from the SDA Kool-Aid for a month, and then revisit.
Wow you used three witnesses of scripture in a row and actually together?!..Wow!! That is so awesome! I'm so proud of 'Doctor'. This for a fact I have no doubt that not one of your nurses if you were a true doctor that is, or supposedly, would laugh at you behind your back or mock you for your greatly haughty self-deprecating, devilish doctrines of conceited deceits. And no thank you I will not need a receipt for you actually doing this one time... But hopefully you do it more because I don't know how much more I could bear with this Idiocracy from somebody that of course loves to read but surely not the bible.
So hateful….so very hateful. (BTW, a “real doctor” is one who has a Ph.D. in the liberal arts and sciences - an academic degree. A physician is a professional discipline; noteworthy for sure, and yet, it’s a different academic framework.)
A mediator whitout access to God before 1844? and After that....". Every case was decided, every jewel numbered. Jesus tarried a moment in the outer apartment of the heavenly sanctuary, and the sins which had been confessed while He was in the most holy place were placed upon Satan, the originator of sin, who must suffer their punishment" SR 403.2 ???What....NEVER ACCESS TO GOD THROUGH JESUS!!!
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Your batting a 1000 with me Dr.Davis I'll be watching these videos again and again and I'll send them to my fair weather friends also , hopefully it will open up a dialogue with them . Thanks for all you do .
Excellent presentation on the Investigative Judgment. John 3:18. Former SDA pastor.
I appreciate the comment....thank you. What, might I ask, brought you out of SDA-ism (I'm inferring you've left), and where did you pastor?
SDA get sooooo hung up on the very words in Hebrews of the “Holy Place, Most Holy Place” that they don’t even try and understand the context and flow of what is actually being said!! Context is everything ! There are several places even in the OLD TESTAMENT that the “Most Holy Place” is literally called “Holy Place”. I would like to see SDA read and explain Leviticus 16:2 and tell us what’s in focus. Haha.
“and the LORD said to Moses: “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the HOLY PLACE inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat.” Lev 16:2
Dr Davis thanks for all your hard work, defending the Bible and dismantling the false Investigative Judgment prophesy - the veil will be lifted off some who really seek the truth but sadly some in Adventism love Ellen more than Jesus
I very much appreciate your encouragement. Thx for taking the time to watch the video and to share your thoughts.
Wow, you hit that nail dead on. That's the truth.
the thief on the cross is one of my favorite stories that contradicts SDA views as not supported ! The thief had no requirement as taught by EGW , all he did is _ he realized he was next to the King of Kings , the Lord of Lords . He wasn't baptized , we don't know how wicket he was , but at that particular moment he realized who he was and who he was next to . I love your series on Investigative Judgment . It always made zero sense to me . I feel that true doctrinal SDA must be torn internally because EGW's teachings don't grant salvation unless you are perfect on this side !
I talked to the advent defense league last Sabbath, and I'm suppose to talk to them again on the same issue, them having little horn coming before the large horn in Daniel 8. To make sure my comment posts on youtube, I'll post the show link under this comment
ruclips.net/video/jik40DbFTnM/видео.html
1:25:00 mark I go over my question one more time. Most of the video is them talking around my question. Hopefully I get a response today.
Thx for sharing this piece. I’m not surprised, ADL would dance around the subject. They can’t support the SDA position in Dan 8.
@@DrAD767 I am one SDA who never believed in the investigative judgement
I never believed the SOP was EGW
I never believed Michael was Jesus
And I always questioned the Sunday law
But I believed the Sabbath because it’s within the Ten Commandments
I never said anything to anyone because I knew I would be viewed in a strange way
No we are realising the “errors “
Is it strange to ask who then has the Truth?
Given that you have so many other isms and other world religions that are all wrong
Where does this leave a Truth seeker ?
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Can do you a video explaining what then would be the mark of the beast? And how this would take place? The return of Christ etc?
Thank you in advance🙏🏼
Great suggestion! It’s on my radar.
@@DrAD767 Great! I'm looking forward to it🙏🏼
Any chance you could send a pdf of your presentation Please …
I’ll have to see if I’m able to post a link of it in this thread. That said, you might be able to get a transcript via RUclips.
The bible says that Jesus called the "believers" the Pharisees.. a brood of vipers teaching as His Father's Word, the doctrines of men.
I found out first hand that I was not good enough to be a SDA, and this by a bunch of self appointed, self-righteous people!!
Im happy that happened because the Father then allowed my eyes to be opened.
The Word says there is NOT ONE righteous No Not One!! I believe the one who died for me, and Not man!!
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Stumbled across your you tube … I struggle with investigative judgement!!! Big time ..
I asked THE PEOPLE to find me one Bible verse that speaks of investigative judgement…. Still waiting… have you listen to Tim Jennings Come and reason ?? He presents things in different light …
I'm glad you "stumbled" upon my channel. The IJ is indeed tricky and sly within SDA-ism. Please understand: Without this doctrine, there is no SDA-ism. It is the hallmark of all they believe. This is not to discount everything the group believes....no. But this heretical teaching has caused many needless fear and anxiety.
Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; “Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.” Hebrews 6:19&20
Once one studies within the veil ( which only ever means the Most Holy Place) -it’s clear there that Jesus didn’t stay in the Holy place for 1800 years.
Not just that but it says “after the order of Malchezidek”. Malchezidek was a high priest and Jesus is a high priest, Thus, the veil Jesus entered is where only the High Priest could-the most holy place.
@msskylark1 Are your senses dull? Or, perhaps you failed to read my reply to you on a different thread. If you cannot bring substance, rather than personal attacks, to the conversation, then you need to go away.
Hebrews 9:12 (NLT). This is why SDA's are so dependent on the KJV or NKJV to support their doctrines.
Their understanding of salvation is so warped and twisted; the fact I allowed myself to dwell in that apostasy for as long as I did is shameful.
Even though they've shifted to the NKJV, Heb 9:12 reads Most Holy Place, and I know *MANY* who have crossed out the word "Most" so to align with their heretical teachings.
Hi Dr. Davis, I struggle with the IJ teaching, and see very little importance of when it starts (i.e. 1844), but I do see clear evidence of a judgement. The book of Revelation is clear that there is a judgement taking place and it appears to be happening before Christ returns. Do you agree that there will be a judgement? That all will be judged? The judgement is completed before the advent of Christ. There appears to be a sanctuary in heaven. And, that names will be recorded in books?
Hour of His judgement has come Rev 6-8
For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God Rom 14:10
All will be judged, not just the lost Jude 1:14-15.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil. II Cor 5:10
Great white throne - books open and judgement…Rev 20:11-13
Judgement set - books are open… Dan 7:9-10
Jesus is our intercessor/advocate - 1 Jn 2:1, Rom 8:34.
There is a sanctuary in heaven - Rev 15:5-8.
Judgement given to the saints - Dan 7:22
This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering… II Thes 1:5
Silence in Heaven - After Judgement is complete…Rev 8:10
The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” Rev 16:17
God Bless!
@tracybhp Please watch Dr. Davis’s third video on the investigative Judgement. I believe, it will answer some of your questions.
Hi Tracy. As you move thru the videos, I’ll answer your questions. In short, there is indeed a judgment. Also, the so-called heavenly sanctuary is Heaven itself. Further, all will indeed be judged and saved by the same act, and yes, it’s prior to the second advent.
Paralise Lost by John Milton written in 1674 is The Great Controversy by EGW. Now who copy who...
Yes, in the BIG PICTURE. Specifically, Patriarchs and Prophets copies Milton.
I would love to get my hands on a copy of that. Even Denis Fortine made this same reference in an interview on SDA Q&A.
@@blueticks8423 Milton's text USED to be required reading in English literature. Perhaps the SDAs had something to do with its demise in the curriculum!
@@blueticks8423 There's a lecture series on YT I watched about it. It broke it down in sections because nobody speaks as it is written anymore.
That's easy, when was that Great controversy written?
The first veil is what was rent from top to bottom-Mt 27:51
Only priests were permitted beyond the first veil, and only high priests were permitted beyond the second veil Hebrews 9:6,7
The vail of Exodus 26:36-37 is the one that was rent in twain, not the vail of Exodus 26:31-35.
1 Chronicles 6:49 - The work of every priest was a type of Christ’s work, but the common priests performed work only in the court and the first apartment of the sanctuary, while the high priest officiated not only in the court and the first apartment as well as the common priests, but went alone into the holy of holies. Aaron at times offered burnt offerings on the brazen altar in the court.
No, that was the only veil, of which is spoken; it’s not a curtain, whereby one entered into the first apartment.
@@DrAD767
What meaneth Paul (Heb 9:3) of a “second veil” ?
@michaelbrutsche75 That’s a good question, which Paul answers. He said *priests* go into and thru the first; only *high priests* go into and thru the second. In this statement, Paul is stating this is exactly what Jesus did upon His ascension.
Dr Davis for your question regarding what was Jesus doing before 1844. Please ask yourself what was the priest doing the whole year before he went to the most holy place on the 10th day of the 7th month.
Why did God gave us the Tabernacle on earth.
I know exactly what Jesus was doing because the Bible is clear. The question is for you and others who believe SDA ideology.
Our God tells us in 1Thessa. 5:19-21, Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. We are further told in Isa.8:20, To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this word, it is because there's no light in them.
Dr. Davis please explain for us Dan.7:9-14. Tell what this seen is all about.
I believe I do in another video. But suffice it to say, I would ask you to read both Rev 4 & 5; there you will have your answer.
Hi Doc Allen, do they know what their doing? James & ellen & joseph bates.is it bcoz of money? I'll take your response seriously.
From all I’ve read, which is extensive, all the evidence points to that very thing. Is it any different today with ministries like Amazing Facts et al.?
@@DrAD767 Doc Allen can you make more videos about the co-founders of sda like JN Andrews,uriah smith etc.
What specifically would you like me to address about these folk?
Hi, just wondering why God have an investigative judgment? Maybe, not that He needs to investigate, but for the sake of Other beings. 1 Corinthians 4:9 for example?
There are several schools of thought re: this idea, as to why it might be necessary. My concern is, for those who believe the external agencies have to see it lends itself to not trusting God's judgment. The very fact, we have Jesus' sacrifice on the cross is evidence enough of what God did both to save us and to demonstrate His justice and mercy.
The passage you shared from 1 Cor 4:9 must be read in its context, and not in isolation, as many SDAs (and other Christians) are want to do.
BOTTOM LINE: No IJ is necessary because God demonstrated everything at the cross. He provided a solution to the sin problem.
What did the SDAs do to you Dr. Allen that you are coming at them like this?
Take a look at the background video, it'll give the big picture. It's just a history of what I endured. My main sticking point is to highlight their unorthodox teachings that are damnable heresies: Investigative Judgment, 2300-day prophecy & 1844, Sunday-keeping is the mark of the beast, second beast of Rev 2 is the USA, and Ellen White is the spirit of prophecy.
@@DrAD767 😯 These are all wrong doctrines? What about their sanctuary doctrine, is that wrong too?
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Matt.4:4..Deut.8:3..
Perhaps eating a vegetarian diet perhaps keeping the fees perhaps perhaps!! .. keeping the thieves and resting and and actually eating right might not be the best of physical health for physical health that's if somebody doesn't know what the heck they're doing!!! Deeeh!!🤪
Perhaps you can do me and everyone else a favor: spell and grammar check *BEFORE* posting. To the untrained eye, what you’ve shared is mindless drivel.
Clearly, English is not your first language...or your second, or third, or fourth...Σ
@toddott633 I would call him an idiot, but my wife tells me I shouldn’t, and so I won’t call him an idiot.
@@DrAD767 LOL.
1844 was the start of the investigative judgment orbthe cleasing of the heavenlyvsanctuary read Hebrews . God wants us to alfllict our soul today . Jesusbsaid many would be called but FEW CHOSEN. EGW has said Godnhas His people in ALL.CHURCHES. Is thatvwhat you are doing???Warning people of the xoming destruction of the world is not judging them . Yo can be confusing . You are teaching what I believe but give it a different application. EGW saysbwe are to treat everyone as a candidate for heaven .
Are you able to prove what you’ve said using the Bible? I’ve just proved you can’t. I’d be interested in reading your thorough exegesis.
Well? Are you going to provide some biblical evidence? All I see you do is provide your opinions. Scaring people into your church pews is not giving them Christ or God. Telling them some dead woman who suffered from brain damage was God's prophet is such a deception. Telling them that have to get back to an Edenic diet if they hope to be accepted before a holy God is actually satanic, and yet, you folk simply can't see it. It's time to wake up out of your slumber!!!
For the sincere ones coming in here seeking the truth.
First off I just want to say to those who are coming here because they always had questions about the I.J (Investigative Judgement), that this topic is presented on this channel by an ex-sda so this is probably not the best place to learn of our position, (I'm an SDA).
As I explained on Myles similar channel this topic is very controversial and to think I or the Dr. D. can convince you here with our words is not my goal or belief. I'm here simply to point you in the right direction on where we (SDA) stand on this position.
@ 15:12 He says heres an interesting point to consider. Then he references Acts 7:56 saying its pivotal and he ask "doing what"
@ 15:37 saying exactly what the Paul tells us in the book of Hebrews. Sounds like a stretch to me.
Stephen exclaimed that he saw the son of God at the right hand of God in particular because those words were
considered basphemous.
@18:05 in this video he says " here is my seminal point of refutation...the veil was torn in two...and thus the entire compartment became the most holy place'.
@ 17:44 EGW is seen to have said Jesus went in to the most holy "within the veil".
But HEB 6:19 is used to say that Jesus went straight to the most holy "within the veil" at His ascension. See the confusion here?
For the sake of saving me time and space I will cite these....
"Ford [Desmond Ford] saw the imagery of ‘within the veil’ and ‘entrance into heaven’ in the book of Hebrews as pointing to the cross and ascension of Christ as the fulfillment of the antitypical Day of Atonement. Many Adventist scholars now tend to affirm that the phrase “within the veil” in Hebrews 6:19 refers primarily to the inner veil to the Most Holy Place. However, this does not indicate the antitypical Day of Atonement."
" ... the imagery in Hebrews is better understood in connection with the antitypical inauguration of the heavenly sanctuary, its new priesthood, the new covenant, and Christ’s heavenly enthronement as a kingly priest. All of these aspects are emphasized in Hebrews, all are linked to inauguration, and none of them have any connections with the Day of Atonement. Hebrews 10:20 explicitly refers to ‘inauguration’ itself (enekainisen ‘to inaugurate’). Hebrews is seen as highlighting the better access of the newly inaugurated new covenant in Christ, in comparison to limited access and ineffectiveness of the old covenant. The focus of this position is now a much narrower claim about the antitypical Day of Atonement." encyclopedia.adventist.org/article?id=7FOL
In other words, the notion that type met antitype (antitypical) stopped once Jesus died on the cross, so our position on the veil is not prominent as we see in our 28 beliefs (#24).
"It may be true that some presentations and understandings of the investigative judgment have undermined gospel assurance. The question is whether this doctrine is necessarily incompatible with Christian assurance. Historically, Adventists have sometimes neglected the gospel but differences may also be due to certain emphases. For example, Ellen White could give presentations of the investigative judgment that emphasized warning and preparation or ones that emphasized assurance. Different emphases do not constitute contradiction. There are many examples of assurance-based understandings of salvation within Adventism."
encyclopedia.adventist.org/article?id=7FOL
For a quick 8 minute video explanation of the I. J for those who never even heard of this.
ruclips.net/video/qqqwlkXl95M/видео.html
Please prayerfully study these things for yourself with an open mind. God will reveal the truth to you.
God bless
You may not use any Adventist literature or quotes from Ellen White. Please try using the Bible, and the Bible only, if able.
For those sincerely seeking, please fast from the SDA Kool-Aid for a month, and then revisit.
Wow you used three witnesses of scripture in a row and actually together?!..Wow!! That is so awesome! I'm so proud of 'Doctor'. This for a fact I have no doubt that not one of your nurses if you were a true doctor that is, or supposedly, would laugh at you behind your back or mock you for your greatly haughty self-deprecating, devilish doctrines of conceited deceits.
And no thank you I will not need a receipt for you actually doing this one time... But hopefully you do it more because I don't know how much more I could bear with this Idiocracy from somebody that of course loves to read but surely not the bible.
So hateful….so very hateful. (BTW, a “real doctor” is one who has a Ph.D. in the liberal arts and sciences - an academic degree. A physician is a professional discipline; noteworthy for sure, and yet, it’s a different academic framework.)
Have you come here to reveal your true spirit, pastor? Indeed, you have done so. @pastorbrianbanks
Is there someone who can translate pastorbrianbanks' comment into plain English for me?
@toddott633 Nope, his words are simply babble.
@@DrAD767 True.
A mediator whitout access to God before 1844? and After that....". Every case was decided, every jewel numbered. Jesus tarried a moment in the outer apartment of the heavenly sanctuary, and the sins which had been confessed while He was in the most holy place were placed upon Satan, the originator of sin, who must suffer their punishment" SR 403.2 ???What....NEVER ACCESS TO GOD THROUGH JESUS!!!