I was there as a member of Spirit of Atlanta. I was up in the stands to watch this show (we went earlier). Funny enough, I was sitting *right next to* Zingali close to the box office. He was crying the whole time of this opener. I'll never forget it!
This is iconic! How can anyone not love this opener? This is the start of what would be the distinctive sound that is the Cadets. 30 years later they still have that distinctive Cadets style and sound.
Got to meet Zingali at a drum corps show when I was teaching with a corps about 1990-91. We were standing there talking with him when out of the blue, he pulls out a little pad of paper and starts writing drill. He wrote about 6 pictures and kind of sung it in his head and flipped the pics. When he got it the way he wanted it, I guess, he would say, "yes!" when he flipped another pic. It was like we weren't even there. We just stood there and watched his incredible brain create super cool drill. When he was done, he put his pad back in his pocket and picked up the conversation again like nothing happened. We were like, "whoa, dude. What did you just do?" "Oh, I just rewrote the closer. It's gonna be awesome." Yep. It was.
hey i marched in the corps that year in the quad line. yes the horn players did get right back up. some with out shakos some with damaged dented horns, but they did get right back up. the best way to describe the moment for those of us on the field but could not see was that it was the last move of the show, the z pull and normally the crowd went wild. they were going wild and then it just got quiet before the last note. that was strange. we found out what happened in the circle
Well, the RUclips algorithm is good. I just watched a score study of Rocky Point then this video came up. Ironically, I made a comment on that video about a band director I met in about 92 whose goal was to do this piece with his band. They did it on the field. "I worked with the Cadets in 83 and in college and it's been my dream ever since." Pretty dope dream.
The sound was only a part of this show. I was born into Drum Corps and marched from 1969-1981. The first time I saw Garfield in 83(Toledo Key to The Sea) my jaw dropped. There had never been anything like it. THAT show forever changed Drum Corps
I had 50 yard line seats for this show. I was only 14 and it was the first time I'd ever seen a live drum corps event. Even then I knew I was witnessing something special. I've seen many shows since, but this is the only one that moved me to tears. I still get chills watching this compressed, VHS-copied recording. Thank you Garfield Cadets (and whoever posted this video)!
The Z pull in 83 and Barbara Maroney in '84. The fondest memories I have of DCI. And I wasn't even a Garfield fan at the time. I was in awe for 2 seasons, though...
Right before the Z-Pull, The Cadets hornline went from a 2 arc form that spanned from the Side One 35-yard line, to the Side Two 35-yard line (so 30 yards total). After the Z-Pull, The Cadets hornline were in one formation that spanned from the Side One 10 yd line to the Side Two 10 yd line. Taking up 80 yards of the field in all a span of 20 seconds. Which, while at the speed drum corps move today, doesn’t seem like much, but at this time was groundbreaking.
i saw the z pull this year, i was cheering so loudly that the people in my band made a meme out of it, on the way back we watched the 83 championships and when the z pull happened the entire bus started going "THE Z PULL", I love zingali drill
I saw GC's home show early in the season in '83 - and was completely blown away. Zingali had done some amazing drill with winter guard, but seeing it on the drum corps field was mind blowing. I kept trying to describe to my "old school" friends what I had seen and never was able to do it justice. George Zingali revolutionized both drill and movement. Thanks for uploading!
I’ll never forget the first time I saw this live. I was playing trumpet* with The Cavaliers in 1983 and we first encountered Garfield at DCI North in Ypsilanti that year. We had seen Garfield open with Rocky Point Holiday the previous season as well but the 1983 version was simply astounding. The drill was from another planet and the brass section was absolutely on fire. *Soprano bugle for we Gen-X-ers
I marched Avant Garde 83 and 84...tubas (contra). I saw this show, their retreat after winning, and the prelims live. As you can imagine, all shows were standing room only. Phenomenal. The sound blew your hair back. Most impressive is that they didn't lose volume as most corps would when they took it end zone to end zone. Older now, this still inspires me and brings me back to better time.
I never imagined I would have the opportunity to work with such brilliant minds. I feel blessed to have marched with Star of Indiana for 6 years and be instructed by George, Donny, Jimmer, and so many other wonderful people. It's the 21st anniversary of George's passing. He forever changed the history of the activity many many times.
I marched 77-87 Cavaliers, and when we all saw the sudden rise of Garfield Cadets from the bottom...to this...it brought us hope. Before this drill, everyone was straight lines and angles. This year changed Drum Corps forever. Every time I hear Rocky Point Holiday '83, I get goosebumps. 2:43 to the end was GENIUS...Thank you Mr. Zingali, we owe you our love, praise, and thanks...RIP
George Zingali (RIP) once told me in '83 that "marching is not performing, and performing is not marching, it's where the two meet/converge in the middle that makes it a show". He always wanted to create a 'show' and he did just that back then...truly a gifted person for the ages. - Cadets '79='84, snare
By far, the best ever show I have ever seen from any Drum Corps. If I had a pound for every time I have seen this, I'd be a rich man.....still get goose bumps watching it today. Has anyone got the whole 1983 show please?
+Mick Rick I have semi-final (this) high cam whole show... as well as multi-cam finals. if you go to DCI's website, find the SHOP link, and you can find this relatively cheaply. By the way, before the reprise of the Z-pull, the arc was REALLY messed up. Part of why they lost semi-finals---the only loss that year.
This has GOT to be the BEST 3:22 of DCI Drum Corp. EVER! I have been watching this clip for months, now. Can't believe it is from so long ago. Would love to see this entire show!!
Never gets old! Witnessing this in person, watching Cadets changing the game in real time, will always be a powerful, cherished memory! I was only 12 years old when they did this, but the memory is fresh, even decades later. No one had ever seen or heard anything like this at that time. It blew us all away. Magnificent!
'83 was the perfect storm for the corps in that the staff was determined to push the boundaries of both drill design and music in order to improve on what had been done the previous 2 years. So, we basically trusted them to know what they were doing throughout the year and eventually, our attitude was like "well, can't hurt to give it a try? why not?" glad to know all that hard work was appreciated. :)
1989 Santa Clara Phantom show was my all time favorite show historically. I will say that the Cadets have always been innovators in marching. They were the first to fully integrate the battery into the actual forms making those poor snare and bass drummers do every step that the brass did. It became the norm for all corps and now I see the major corps going more toward scatter drills randomly dancing to get to position EXCEPT for the Cadets, who continue to amaze everyone with their sharp m&m and constantly changing designs. I watched them at night beat this year, and although their low brass sound was down this year, their alto blend was beautiful with the addition of French horns. I loved it.
All thanks to the Cadets of past generations that inspired people like me to march Cadets in 2007....and this show is just another reason why I marched.... Thank you for posting this video.
I marched Devs that year ( snare ) and i gotta say, this is the first time I've seen the 83 garfield show. Spectacular. I wish i could have seen it live that year. It amazes me what kinda drill they were doing that year... had that been suggested to the BD drumline, they would have been shut down immediately. Pretty awesome to see what the kids are pulling off these days. great vid
This is how Drum Corps supposed to sound! The power. The precision. Bringing unique music to a wider audience in an entertaining way. And knocking the crowd back an inch or two in their seats!
@@kevinfolds4713 No. Despite that many of my favorite shows are from the G bugle era, no. The only good reason to prefer their tone is if you were raised on it.
I marched 83 with the Sky Ryders, and remember being on tour with the Cadets for a number of shows. Never had I seen such intense rehearsals and beyond belief marching drills in my life. I remember how intense the whole corps was.......really impressive year for their first Championship.
Man, listen carefully to the audience right at 2:59. It's amazing; you hear this kind of stir in the crowd when the middle horns are holding that whole note, and then they just gradually start yelling and cheering and jumping out of their seats. It's unbelievably exciting to just concentrate on the audience's reaction. That tells you all you really need to know about the relevance of that moment.
I've read the comments so many times. It seems a turning point for DCI in general if you look at the next 10 years. I played conrta-bass with Garfield that year and have never been the same. Remember Severville Tennessee? Remember playing "Georgia On My Mind" with the Spirit of Atlanta? Besides winning DCI, that was my most favorite memory of 1983. I wish I had a recording of that!
Still one of the most amazing drills ever. I'm just a long-time fan, never marched corps. I remember watching and thinking wtf. Think that's the night I bought a Cadets sweatshirt!
that is so cool! my ex-band instructor (i'm now 38!) was in the pit. it's the most amazing song ever. p.s. we did this song in high school...like 3 years out of cadets for him!
best corps routine ive ever seen, dci finals were shown on tv over here in the uk for the first time in 83, i remember being blown away watching this, our corps did a version of your m&m ending in 85 when we won dcuk finals
I got exposed my senior year of high school 1980. up until that point, we did Big 10 Style in Minnesota. My word, "what the F is this amazing stuff? How can I get in it?"
wow, many flashbacks, i did not see them in miami but i saw them in wisconsin i think and other places too, had many friends that loved them very much and remember listening to them on the bus on the way to competitions in the northeast area!
My son marched Cadets, and worked with them after he aged-out. I'm really bummed no one will ever get the chance to see them perform live again. RIP... FHNSAB
and the crazy part of the early '80's - when I witnessed this in Miami that night I knew I was watching something special, but I had no idea how special, and no idea I would be watching it again 26 years later and still get goose bumps. And the real crazy thing was they topped this show the next year in '84 with West Side Story!
I have this on audio disc and blast it on days when I feel bumbed out and tired. It really picks me up !!!! Best part besides the Zpull is when the entire corps ROTATES like a fan in this vid! AWESOME
Holy crap - the Z pull! You may not believe this, but George Zingali wrote our shows a few years at my high school in the late 80s and taught them in band camp (in Ft. Lauderdale - I have no idea how much we paid him, but spending a few weeks in Ft. Laud. probably wasn't such a hard sell). We had a pretty good drum and horn line (and woodwinds) before he got there but once he put our field show together we cleaned up. We executed the "Zingali Pull" and blew the house down. RIP, Mr. Zingali.
Saw this show in Montreal that year- you knew something was coming- something new, something that was going to change the future of the activity, and this chart- just- rocks. Three words, yes, yes, and YES!
Hehe... what an awesome show. :) It would be nice if drum and BUGLE corps moved back to G bugles; they were wicked loud instruments. I marched BAC in 2000 and 2001, and went into the stands in 2001 at Franklin Field in Philly - watched I think Crossmen? then Cavaliers. Xmen were still in G, Cavies on Bb, and the difference in sound was striking; not just the tone, but sheer volume. I really miss that hair-parting ability. So it was harder to tune, big whoop. I'm glad I played on a G horn. :)
Still sends chills up the spine 30 years later. Slow speed by today's standards but much more pleasing to look at and much more exciting. Today's show are so fast and there is so much going on that they are more anxiety producing and head scratching than anything. Marching band on steroids. This was Drum Corps at its greatest. Sad to see it go by the wayside.
@@declandougan7243 how is it elitist? In some ways I’ve since come to appreciate where drum corps has evolved, but there are things that I miss like drill and full field coverage. And I stand by my comment that there is so much going on in today’s shows that its hard to see it all.
They were ground-breaking, but lets not forget you guys had Gambaro! Your corp stayed in our high school that whole week and we got to hear you when you practiced on our field. You were a mid-size corp with an Open-class wall of sound. ...and then Tony cut loose on a solo. My jaw, our band director's jaw, everyone in the stands jaws, the groundskeeper's jaws, some random jocks running laps on the track jaws, EVERYONE'S jaws dropped to the ground.
I REMEMBER YOU GUYS!! I was marching Florida Wave and we started chatting a few of you up! We were so impressed by how awed you guys were with the top-tier corps. You guys sounded great, don't get me wrong, but I remember one of your bugle players repeating over and over "did you hear Garfield's horns, they're MAD!". The other thing I distinctly remember is our female corp members making moon eyes at some of the more handsome "blokes" in your group, they loved your accents :D
This corps and show was the beginning of a new era that continues today...albeit nowadays a little out of control sometimes! I'll never forget this show, and the impact it had on me. Unbelievable in person! Amazing! And, everyone's right...the sound and power was much more impressive back in those days. The Cadet's West Side show was great too. And, nothing can top Madison's kick-ass old-school Malaguena!
@reichadams ... all of the corps seem to look and sound very similar now (that is, when they actually play more than 10 notes at a time). I, for one, am no longer enticed to drive several hundred miles to a show and spend a lot of money on stuff, like I used to. Hell, I don't even watch RUclips videos of current shows. (snore) ... If "The Cadets" were to reprise THIS show, note for note, you would sell out EVERY contest that they entered ... fo real, homeboy! :) Livin' in the past, baby!
@thogy Agreed. '83 was just flat out amazing. But to this day, '84 with West Side Story is unparalleled. Not only drill, but the musical book was just genius. I saw the show twice, semis on Fri. and finals on Sat., and if there is one show I'd like to see repeated some day, this is the one.
I truly miss the raw power of drum corps. i love to drive around blasting drum corps with the windows down. Today's drum corps just on't do it anymore.
IMHO these were the best of times for Drum corps as a whole...There were more corps competing at nationals at all levels, the activity was still reasonably affordable, and the best corps were not all college age kids...you still had a majority of young teens competing and doing outstanding work....this was the time when Drum lines strted moving off the fifty yard line, visuals were now curves instead of straight lines and angles, and of course the famous "Z Pull" as performed by the Cadets.
Ah yes. The introduction of the famous Zingali "Z" pull. At the time, this drill was considered somewhat of an oddity. But after Garfield repeated it's chmpionship in 84 with West Side Story, drum corps drill was changed forever. And all this without the benefit of a computer to visualize the formations.
it was in '85- there were so many different time sig's in the show that year that they decided we might as well lead with the right...it was hard to get used to but it was one more thing that set us apart.
Wow! After 24 years this is the first time I've seen the upper camera shot. It was a great great corps. I marched 3 years after this and won 2 more metals but none of those years felt like 83. To bad you don't have the closer for this night. We had some problems with the ending. I think it was our 1st night with the new Rocky point tag. Anyway, It gave us something to work on the next day.I think we got the buggs out of it. Great Video addition. Thanks a lot! 83-85-86-87 contra
It was a watershed moment for the activity. Free form drill came to the front, and the Cadets set the new standard for movement and music for years to come. In 1982, you could see the beginnings of this type show from several corps, but straight line and squad movement were still the order of the day. This changed all of that.
We did do a show in Montreal I think. My 26 year memory is pretty rusty too. Finals of 82 was in Montreal but I'm pretty sure we ventured up there in 83 also. It's funny that you recognized the Bullwinkle Set. I haven't thought of that in a lonnnng time.
i think i remember you George, I marched the Don Juan and Planets years, french horn. garfield came out of nowhere and as a big fan of Bernstein, i loved them almost as much as the green machine.... in fact my buddy Nathan who marched Cavie baratone had a sister who went on to march in the cadets. long live the machine and Bernstein. thanks for posting..... although i'd love to see the high camera recording of Mass and the Jeremiah Symphony. :)
This show exemplifies the power of pattern-- the most minimal of all show design types. This show was designed around clever, flowing drill sets that accentuated the music, with a repeating Z-pull formation at the end. The audience climbed aboard the high stakes morphing drill sets, desperate to see what happens next. Calculating and brilliant design captivating the audience with nothing more than the story of flow and pattern.
back then, we had 2 or 3 VCRs hooked up everywhere we could place them near enough outlets. spent nearly hour for hour watching tapes, and working the corps. Dr Santo had a "3 year Plan" in 80, turned over to the 1 and only Hoppy. Some Rag Tag New orleanians, George Hopkins, Mike C who scored George Z and Marc S. In Sync with Jimmer and Donnie.... 83 was the Year the magic happened. Something had changed forever. There wasn't enough hours in a day to soak it all up. FHNSAB 75/10 in 09
I was marching in 85 with a crappy little corps, but all summer people kept talking about that Whitewater thing. A lot of people said the horn line got back up so quick that some people didn't even realize it happened. Don't know if that's true or not (smacks of urban legend a little) but I do believe they won anyway. GC was a really big deal back then. There was a constant buzz and the whole scene was trying to figure how the hell to catch up. It was very exciting to be touring then.
@Offbeat1000 I saw the '83 show and it was amazing. But nothing will ever top '84 in Atlanta for me. I played in the Sky Ryders in '85 and '86, then joined Garfield in '87. My first week there, learning the drill, I kept thinking, "This is crazy, we can't play while doing this!" But we did. Zingali wrote the drill while Sylvester was the lead instructor. Through repetition out the wazoo and tweaking, it all came together, but for sure, we were still fixing drill right up until finals!
I think that the talk about this being the show that changed drum corp for one single reason ... it won. Not that people weren't trying asymmetrical drill or moving like this. It was since 1980 people were trying it. But this was the first time someone tried movement like this and proved that it can be so accepted by the activity that it can claim the crown jewel. Just my 2 cents, but respect your opinions.
I know I'm in the right company here - so I can say this - I calculated a few years ago about how many times I have watched and/or listened to this performance. I suggest you super-fans do the same. I came up with literally over THOUSANDS, I won't even give the total number here. AND EVERY TIME IT SETS ME ON FIRE.
@podbuster0 no, just what they used to call the OTL, (off the line) they end the show with the same manuever, and brought the house down, I was there in Miami that year, and will never forget Garfields show that year. This show put drum corps on its ear.
That year, '83, Tom tried to sneak out of the Dominican Center where we had our camps and George Hopkins caught him and talked him into staying. Tom thought he was going to get cut. He came close, but he finally did make it. Nice guy, Tom is. Please give him my regards and ask him to get in touch with me if you're still in contact with him. I pretty sure he marched in The Reading Bucs before coming to Garfield.
@greendude1219 if you were lucky enough to have marched in '83 or were lucky enough to be in the stand for this performance, you wouldn't be making that comment. When I saw this show, I knew it was special, but I had no idea nearly 30 years later people are still talking about it....... but I am not surprised either. One of the few groundbreaking shows that altered forever the direction drum corp was going, '73 Vanguard was another
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I was there as a member of Spirit of Atlanta. I was up in the stands to watch this show (we went earlier). Funny enough, I was sitting *right next to* Zingali close to the box office. He was crying the whole time of this opener. I'll never forget it!
17 seconds that changed DCI forever...the famous "Z" pull. Amazing footage.
One of the most, if not the most, iconic drill moves...the Cavaliers Dragon from "Variations on a Korean Folk Song" is also in the team picture.
No one ever had seen a show like this till then…. The start of s new era!!!
This is iconic! How can anyone not love this opener? This is the start of what would be the distinctive sound that is the Cadets. 30 years later they still have that distinctive Cadets style and sound.
When they moved from a top 10 corp to a top 3 corp!
Got to meet Zingali at a drum corps show when I was teaching with a corps about 1990-91. We were standing there talking with him when out of the blue, he pulls out a little pad of paper and starts writing drill. He wrote about 6 pictures and kind of sung it in his head and flipped the pics. When he got it the way he wanted it, I guess, he would say, "yes!" when he flipped another pic. It was like we weren't even there. We just stood there and watched his incredible brain create super cool drill. When he was done, he put his pad back in his pocket and picked up the conversation again like nothing happened. We were like, "whoa, dude. What did you just do?" "Oh, I just rewrote the closer. It's gonna be awesome." Yep. It was.
hey i marched in the corps that year in the quad line. yes the horn players did get right back up. some with out shakos some with damaged dented horns, but they did get right back up.
the best way to describe the moment for those of us on the field but could not see was that it was the last move of the show, the z pull and normally the crowd went wild. they were going wild and then it just got quiet before the last note. that was strange. we found out what happened in the circle
Well, the RUclips algorithm is good. I just watched a score study of Rocky Point then this video came up. Ironically, I made a comment on that video about a band director I met in about 92 whose goal was to do this piece with his band. They did it on the field. "I worked with the Cadets in 83 and in college and it's been my dream ever since." Pretty dope dream.
The sound was only a part of this show. I was born into Drum Corps and marched from 1969-1981. The first time I saw Garfield in 83(Toledo Key to The Sea) my jaw dropped. There had never been anything like it. THAT show forever changed Drum Corps
Did you march Guardsmen in 81? I did, and aged out with Garfield in 83.
@@cajungenie335 Nope. Glassmen. Always loved those Gaurdsmen hornlines though.
I had 50 yard line seats for this show. I was only 14 and it was the first time I'd ever seen a live drum corps event. Even then I knew I was witnessing something special. I've seen many shows since, but this is the only one that moved me to tears. I still get chills watching this compressed, VHS-copied recording. Thank you Garfield Cadets (and whoever posted this video)!
Our first DCI Championship!!! What a night this was!!!!!!
So right...one of the best nights of my life (along with performing Georgia on my mind in Tennessee...SO AWESOME!!!!)
Iconic performance. Truly groundbreaking and still as powerful today as in 1983.
The Z pull in 83 and Barbara Maroney in '84. The fondest memories I have of DCI. And I wasn't even a Garfield fan at the time. I was in awe for 2 seasons, though...
Right before the Z-Pull, The Cadets hornline went from a 2 arc form that spanned from the Side One 35-yard line, to the Side Two 35-yard line (so 30 yards total). After the Z-Pull, The Cadets hornline were in one formation that spanned from the Side One 10 yd line to the Side Two 10 yd line. Taking up 80 yards of the field in all a span of 20 seconds. Which, while at the speed drum corps move today, doesn’t seem like much, but at this time was groundbreaking.
Still great. Loud! You stood up. I was there 50 yard line. Amazing drill. What drum corps was about. Now, a disgrace
I come back to this about once a year or so. The Z pull still brings me to tears every time. It's just so damn PLEASING.
i saw the z pull this year, i was cheering so loudly that the people in my band made a meme out of it, on the way back we watched the 83 championships and when the z pull happened the entire bus started going "THE Z PULL", I love zingali drill
I saw GC's home show early in the season in '83 - and was completely blown away. Zingali had done some amazing drill with winter guard, but seeing it on the drum corps field was mind blowing. I kept trying to describe to my "old school" friends what I had seen and never was able to do it justice. George Zingali revolutionized both drill and movement.
Thanks for uploading!
I’ll never forget the first time I saw this live. I was playing trumpet* with The Cavaliers in 1983 and we first encountered Garfield at DCI North in Ypsilanti that year. We had seen Garfield open with Rocky Point Holiday the previous season as well but the 1983 version was simply astounding. The drill was from another planet and the brass section was absolutely on fire.
*Soprano bugle for we Gen-X-ers
I marched Avant Garde 83 and 84...tubas (contra). I saw this show, their retreat after winning, and the prelims live. As you can imagine, all shows were standing room only. Phenomenal. The sound blew your hair back. Most impressive is that they didn't lose volume as most corps would when they took it end zone to end zone. Older now, this still inspires me and brings me back to better time.
I never imagined I would have the opportunity to work with such brilliant minds. I feel blessed to have marched with Star of Indiana for 6 years and be instructed by George, Donny, Jimmer, and so many other wonderful people. It's the 21st anniversary of George's passing. He forever changed the history of the activity many many times.
NEVER GETS OLD
+Linda cefaratti - Thinking the same thing. So thrilling, all these years later.
I marched 77-87 Cavaliers, and when we all saw the sudden rise of Garfield Cadets from the bottom...to this...it brought us hope. Before this drill, everyone was straight lines and angles. This year changed Drum Corps forever. Every time I hear Rocky Point Holiday '83, I get goosebumps. 2:43 to the end was GENIUS...Thank you Mr. Zingali, we owe you our love, praise, and thanks...RIP
George Zingali (RIP) once told me in '83 that "marching is not performing, and performing is not marching, it's where the two meet/converge in the middle that makes it a show". He always wanted to create a 'show' and he did just that back then...truly a gifted person for the ages. - Cadets '79='84, snare
Your hope was getting the Muchachos disqualified so you could make finals in 75
By far, the best ever show I have ever seen from any Drum Corps. If I had a pound for every time I have seen this, I'd be a rich man.....still get goose bumps watching it today. Has anyone got the whole 1983 show please?
+Mick Rick I have semi-final (this) high cam whole show... as well as multi-cam finals. if you go to DCI's website, find the SHOP link, and you can find this relatively cheaply.
By the way, before the reprise of the Z-pull, the arc was REALLY messed up. Part of why they lost semi-finals---the only loss that year.
This has GOT to be the BEST 3:22 of DCI Drum Corp. EVER! I have been watching this clip for months, now. Can't believe it is from so long ago. Would love to see this entire show!!
Never gets old! Witnessing this in person, watching Cadets changing the game in real time, will always be a powerful, cherished memory! I was only 12 years old when they did this, but the memory is fresh, even decades later. No one had ever seen or heard anything like this at that time. It blew us all away. Magnificent!
'83 was the perfect storm for the corps in that the staff was determined to push the boundaries of both drill design and music in order to improve on what had been done the previous 2 years. So, we basically trusted them to know what they were doing throughout the year and eventually, our attitude was like "well, can't hurt to give it a try? why not?" glad to know all that hard work was appreciated. :)
@@stevenaleman7454It wasn’t only appreciated, it was awed and cherished. Still is.
1989 Santa Clara Phantom show was my all time favorite show historically. I will say that the Cadets have always been innovators in marching. They were the first to fully integrate the battery into the actual forms making those poor snare and bass drummers do every step that the brass did. It became the norm for all corps and now I see the major corps going more toward scatter drills randomly dancing to get to position EXCEPT for the Cadets, who continue to amaze everyone with their sharp m&m and constantly changing designs. I watched them at night beat this year, and although their low brass sound was down this year, their alto blend was beautiful with the addition of French horns. I loved it.
All thanks to the Cadets of past generations that inspired people like me to march Cadets in 2007....and this show is just another reason why I marched....
Thank you for posting this video.
I marched Devs that year ( snare ) and i gotta say, this is the first time I've seen the 83 garfield show. Spectacular. I wish i could have seen it live that year. It amazes me what kinda drill they were doing that year... had that been suggested to the BD drumline, they would have been shut down immediately. Pretty awesome to see what the kids are pulling off these days.
great vid
This is how Drum Corps supposed to sound! The power. The precision. Bringing unique music to a wider audience in an entertaining way. And knocking the crowd back an inch or two in their seats!
Glad that that’s still the philosophy of modern drum corps.
@@declandougan7243 the sound of the G bugle cannot be beaten.
@@kevinfolds4713 No. Despite that many of my favorite shows are from the G bugle era, no. The only good reason to prefer their tone is if you were raised on it.
This was the show that changed drum corps forever, and deservedly so.
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I marched 83 with the Sky Ryders, and remember being on tour with the Cadets for a number of shows. Never had I seen such intense rehearsals and beyond belief marching drills in my life. I remember how intense the whole corps was.......really impressive year for their first Championship.
25 Year later and still gives me chills!! Unbelievable!!!
What a great time in drum corps history - you can see the evolution happening right there.
Man, listen carefully to the audience right at 2:59. It's amazing; you hear this kind of stir in the crowd when the middle horns are holding that whole note, and then they just gradually start yelling and cheering and jumping out of their seats. It's unbelievably exciting to just concentrate on the audience's reaction. That tells you all you really need to know about the relevance of that moment.
I've read the comments so many times. It seems a turning point for DCI in general if you look at the next 10 years. I played conrta-bass with Garfield that year and have never been the same. Remember Severville Tennessee? Remember playing "Georgia On My Mind" with the Spirit of Atlanta? Besides winning DCI, that was my most favorite memory of 1983. I wish I had a recording of that!
hey fellow alum! I remember those times very well...the Spirit drumline and ours got together for a few 'jam sessions' too...like it was yesterday!
83 Spirit and Cadets playing Georgia?? OMG. I can't imagine the power from those combined hornlines. Enough to cave in your chest.
Still one of the most amazing drills ever. I'm just a long-time fan, never marched corps. I remember watching and thinking wtf. Think that's the night I bought a Cadets sweatshirt!
that is so cool! my ex-band instructor (i'm now 38!) was in the pit. it's the most amazing song ever. p.s. we did this song in high school...like 3 years out of cadets for him!
best corps routine ive ever seen, dci finals were shown on tv over here in the uk for the first time in 83, i remember being blown away watching this, our corps did a version of your m&m ending in 85 when we won dcuk finals
Got introduced to Drum Corp in 83....One word describes it......DAMN!!!!!!
I got exposed my senior year of high school 1980. up until that point, we did Big 10 Style in Minnesota. My word, "what the F is this amazing stuff? How can I get in it?"
wow, many flashbacks, i did not see them in miami but i saw them in wisconsin i think and other places too, had many friends that loved them very much and remember listening to them on the bus on the way to competitions in the northeast area!
My son marched Cadets, and worked with them after he aged-out. I'm really bummed no one will ever get the chance to see them perform live again. RIP... FHNSAB
and the crazy part of the early '80's - when I witnessed this in Miami that night I knew I was watching something special, but I had no idea how special, and no idea I would be watching it again 26 years later and still get goose bumps.
And the real crazy thing was they topped this show the next year in '84 with West Side Story!
I was in the Cadets from 78 to 85 when I aged out and I can't tell you how great it was.
Man oh man! Lol Somebody call the fire dept.! I see smoke everywhere! It's coming off the field, out of the horns, and drums too! That was hype!
This is the show that inspired me to audition for the Cadets! George Zingali was the man!
I have this on audio disc and blast it on days when I feel bumbed out and tired.
It really picks me up !!!! Best part besides the Zpull is when the entire corps ROTATES like a fan in this vid! AWESOME
Still get goosebumps watching this. REAL drum and BUGLE corps.
28 years on and i still get goosebumps everytime i hear this
I don't know why, but I find this drill suspenseful. The drama and evolution of it is exciting!
Holy crap - the Z pull! You may not believe this, but George Zingali wrote our shows a few years at my high school in the late 80s and taught them in band camp (in Ft. Lauderdale - I have no idea how much we paid him, but spending a few weeks in Ft. Laud. probably wasn't such a hard sell). We had a pretty good drum and horn line (and woodwinds) before he got there but once he put our field show together we cleaned up. We executed the "Zingali Pull" and blew the house down. RIP, Mr. Zingali.
Saw this show in Montreal that year- you knew something was coming- something new, something that was going to change the future of the activity, and this chart- just- rocks. Three words, yes, yes, and YES!
Still brings goose-bumps. Ironic that they still play Rocky Point as a part of their warm-up/pump-up routine. Tells you something about this piece.
A book for the ages. And those middle horns; such a big part of their sound back then.
I have been a fan of the Zingali Z for years. I started teaching in 84 and finally put one in my show in about 1994.
Nobody revolutionized the visual activity like zingali. The mozart of drill designers.
I was 14 when I went to see this show and was completely blown away. I still get goose bumps just thinking about it.
Hehe... what an awesome show. :)
It would be nice if drum and BUGLE corps moved back to G bugles; they were wicked loud instruments. I marched BAC in 2000 and 2001, and went into the stands in 2001 at Franklin Field in Philly - watched I think Crossmen? then Cavaliers. Xmen were still in G, Cavies on Bb, and the difference in sound was striking; not just the tone, but sheer volume. I really miss that hair-parting ability.
So it was harder to tune, big whoop. I'm glad I played on a G horn. :)
my all time favourite corps show, pure drum corps at its best from start to finish
Still sends chills up the spine 30 years later. Slow speed by today's standards but much more pleasing to look at and much more exciting. Today's show are so fast and there is so much going on that they are more anxiety producing and head scratching than anything. Marching band on steroids. This was Drum Corps at its greatest. Sad to see it go by the wayside.
You may feel anxious but I enjoy them.
Theres still Vanguard.
Ah, this comment oozes snobby elitism.
@@declandougan7243 how is it elitist? In some ways I’ve since come to appreciate where drum corps has evolved, but there are things that I miss like drill and full field coverage. And I stand by my comment that there is so much going on in today’s shows that its hard to see it all.
the coordination - spectacular!!!
They were ground-breaking, but lets not forget you guys had Gambaro! Your corp stayed in our high school that whole week and we got to hear you when you practiced on our field. You were a mid-size corp with an Open-class wall of sound. ...and then Tony cut loose on a solo. My jaw, our band director's jaw, everyone in the stands jaws, the groundskeeper's jaws, some random jocks running laps on the track jaws, EVERYONE'S jaws dropped to the ground.
I REMEMBER YOU GUYS!! I was marching Florida Wave and we started chatting a few of you up! We were so impressed by how awed you guys were with the top-tier corps. You guys sounded great, don't get me wrong, but I remember one of your bugle players repeating over and over "did you hear Garfield's horns, they're MAD!". The other thing I distinctly remember is our female corp members making moon eyes at some of the more handsome "blokes" in your group, they loved your accents :D
This corps and show was the beginning of a new era that continues today...albeit nowadays a little out of control sometimes! I'll never forget this show, and the impact it had on me. Unbelievable in person! Amazing! And, everyone's right...the sound and power was much more impressive back in those days. The Cadet's West Side show was great too. And, nothing can top Madison's kick-ass old-school Malaguena!
Ah, Rocky Point Holiday! Absolutely awesome! From the first note of the show to the last, this was definitely THE show of 1983!
Hands down best drum corp show I ever saw! And, I saw many marching for 12 years.
Thanks for posting this, I was in the color guard, great stuff
Me too!
@@leannekosub142 Me, too!
Whoever thumbs downed this knows nothing about drum corps, or music for that matter. Fact. Just sayin.
haters gonna hate...not much to say except, I really miss this show! :)
has it really been 30 years? where has time went ! long live that great wall of sound !
Still gives me goosebumps in 2019.
tears here, Dec 2020.
My fiancé helped write the drill for this. I had no idea he was so talented. He's down there somewhere, too, on "staff". I'm so proud of him!!!
Never. Gets. Old.
Thanks, Bill. Mark Holub - Garfield percussion staff, 1982, '83 and '84.
@reichadams ... all of the corps seem to look and sound very similar now (that is, when they actually play more than 10 notes at a time). I, for one, am no longer enticed to drive several hundred miles to a show and spend a lot of money on stuff, like I used to. Hell, I don't even watch RUclips videos of current shows. (snore) ... If "The Cadets" were to reprise THIS show, note for note, you would sell out EVERY contest that they entered ... fo real, homeboy! :)
Livin' in the past, baby!
@thogy Agreed. '83 was just flat out amazing. But to this day, '84 with West Side Story is unparalleled. Not only drill, but the musical book was just genius. I saw the show twice, semis on Fri. and finals on Sat., and if there is one show I'd like to see repeated some day, this is the one.
I truly miss the raw power of drum corps. i love to drive around blasting drum corps with the windows down. Today's drum corps just on't do it anymore.
Dude, 83 was still a badass year for BD...major props to you. If only we can cut back a bit on the narration...
For Holy Name shall always be.
IMHO these were the best of times for Drum corps as a whole...There were more corps competing at nationals at all levels, the activity was still reasonably affordable, and the best corps were not all college age kids...you still had a majority of young teens competing and doing outstanding work....this was the time when Drum lines strted moving off the fifty yard line, visuals were now curves instead of straight lines and angles, and of course the famous "Z Pull" as performed by the Cadets.
Ah yes. The introduction of the famous Zingali "Z" pull. At the time, this drill was considered somewhat of an oddity. But after Garfield repeated it's chmpionship in 84 with West Side Story, drum corps drill was changed forever.
And all this without the benefit of a computer to visualize the formations.
the drum major is my current band instructer!!!!!!!!!!!!! how fuckin crazy is that. Mr. Trumpy is the man!!!!!!
Still one of the best drill moves ever... George was a genious !!!
it was in '85- there were so many different time sig's in the show that year that they decided we might as well lead with the right...it was hard to get used to but it was one more thing that set us apart.
Wow! After 24 years this is the first time I've seen the upper camera shot. It was a great great corps. I marched 3 years after this and won 2 more metals but none of those years felt like 83. To bad you don't have the closer for this night. We had some problems with the ending. I think it was our 1st night with the new Rocky point tag. Anyway, It gave us something to work on the next day.I think we got the buggs out of it. Great Video addition. Thanks a lot! 83-85-86-87 contra
Havent seen this since 1988. This was the best DCI finals EVER!
It was a watershed moment for the activity. Free form drill came to the front, and the Cadets set the new standard for movement and music for years to come. In 1982, you could see the beginnings of this type show from several corps, but straight line and squad movement were still the order of the day. This changed all of that.
We did do a show in Montreal I think. My 26 year memory is pretty rusty too. Finals of 82 was in Montreal but I'm pretty sure we ventured up there in 83 also. It's funny that you recognized the Bullwinkle Set. I haven't thought of that in a lonnnng time.
i think i remember you George, I marched the Don Juan and Planets years, french horn. garfield came out of nowhere and as a big fan of Bernstein, i loved them almost as much as the green machine.... in fact my buddy Nathan who marched Cavie baratone had a sister who went on to march in the cadets. long live the machine and Bernstein. thanks for posting..... although i'd love to see the high camera recording of Mass and the Jeremiah Symphony. :)
I have the ‘85 high cam.
The Devils are my corps but I love "Rocky Point Holiday" and the genius of George Zingali.
The "Whitewater Pileup" really happened, very much as you described. I was there.
This show exemplifies the power of pattern-- the most minimal of all show design types. This show was designed around clever, flowing drill sets that accentuated the music, with a repeating Z-pull formation at the end. The audience climbed aboard the high stakes morphing drill sets, desperate to see what happens next. Calculating and brilliant design captivating the audience with nothing more than the story of flow and pattern.
BRING BACK OLD SCHOOL DRUM & BUGLE CORPS, AND THE CROWDS WILL COME BACK. FORMER MEMBER OF THE LONG ISLAND SUNRISES DRUM AND BUGLE CORPS.
back then, we had 2 or 3 VCRs hooked up everywhere we could place them near enough outlets. spent nearly hour for hour watching tapes, and working the corps. Dr Santo had a "3 year Plan" in 80, turned over to the 1 and only Hoppy. Some Rag Tag New orleanians, George Hopkins, Mike C who scored George Z and Marc S. In Sync with Jimmer and Donnie.... 83 was the Year the magic happened. Something had changed forever. There wasn't enough hours in a day to soak it all up. FHNSAB 75/10 in 09
I was marching in 85 with a crappy little corps, but all summer people kept talking about that Whitewater thing. A lot of people said the horn line got back up so quick that some people didn't even realize it happened. Don't know if that's true or not (smacks of urban legend a little) but I do believe they won anyway. GC was a really big deal back then. There was a constant buzz and the whole scene was trying to figure how the hell to catch up. It was very exciting to be touring then.
The Garfield Cadets. They just keep going and going and going and going...
best Dci performance.
Music , passion and Heart!
go 83 Garfield, miss U!!!!!
@Offbeat1000 I saw the '83 show and it was amazing. But nothing will ever top '84 in Atlanta for me. I played in the Sky Ryders in '85 and '86, then joined Garfield in '87. My first week there, learning the drill, I kept thinking, "This is crazy, we can't play while doing this!" But we did. Zingali wrote the drill while Sylvester was the lead instructor. Through repetition out the wazoo and tweaking, it all came together, but for sure, we were still fixing drill right up until finals!
Oh my God, what was it like to march in the best 4 year period anyone could ever march, but with the Cadets no less???!!!
I think that the talk about this being the show that changed drum corp for one single reason ... it won. Not that people weren't trying asymmetrical drill or moving like this. It was since 1980 people were trying it. But this was the first time someone tried movement like this and proved that it can be so accepted by the activity that it can claim the crown jewel. Just my 2 cents, but respect your opinions.
Never gets old!!
I know I'm in the right company here - so I can say this - I calculated a few years ago about how many times I have watched and/or listened to this performance. I suggest you super-fans do the same. I came up with literally over THOUSANDS, I won't even give the total number here. AND EVERY TIME IT SETS ME ON FIRE.
@podbuster0 no, just what they used to call the OTL, (off the line) they end the show with the same manuever, and brought the house down, I was there in Miami that year, and will never forget Garfields show that year. This show put drum corps on its ear.
That year, '83, Tom tried to sneak out of the Dominican Center where we had our camps and George Hopkins caught him and talked him into staying. Tom thought he was going to get cut. He came close, but he finally did make it. Nice guy, Tom is. Please give him my regards and ask him to get in touch with me if you're still in contact with him. I pretty sure he marched in The Reading Bucs before coming to Garfield.
@greendude1219 if you were lucky enough to have marched in '83 or were lucky enough to be in the stand for this performance, you wouldn't be making that comment. When I saw this show, I knew it was special, but I had no idea nearly 30 years later people are still talking about it....... but I am not surprised either. One of the few groundbreaking shows that altered forever the direction drum corp was going, '73 Vanguard was another