Old drum is exactly that corps now its marching arts on 100yd stage - DCI business model to operate is not a good one SCV almost folded they’ll be more with inflation corps fees astounding 4k to March it was $400 be in 91-92 when i was actively auditioning
Garfield Cadets in 1983 may have put all the pieces together to win the DCI Championship (through innovative drill and beautiful composition), but in 1984 they perfected their new style and pushed the activity forward by leaps and bounds. Many consider this show THE GOLD STANDARD! There are certainly others worthy of such lofty praise, but the effect this show had on the entire marching activity -- drum corps, H.S. band, college band, European drum corps, Japanese bands, and so on. -- is the stuff of legends. Not until Star of Indiana 1993 do we see this kind of influence. Maybe to some degree we see it in Santa Clara's emotionally-charged Phantom of the Opera in 1988. The brass book in Garfield's WSS is insane and performed so well, so beautifully, so emotional, and powerful when needed. The nuance in dynamics and blends, the adaption to so many rhythms and styles, all while marching a George Zingali masterpiece is nothing short of electrifying! I still get goosebumps watching this on video, and this is such a nice conversion of this video to better quality. Some shows stand the test of time. Garfield Cadets 1984 is one of those shows. East East East!!!!!!!
This performance changed the whole dynamic of drum corps, it became the gold standard of DCI and remains so to this day. It has not been replicated and cannot be. It made Leonard Bernstein and all of us so proud!
@@johnolson5538 probably not unfortunately. Drum corps is not well known outside the music world as much as we want it to be. At the height of its popularity it was acknowledged by a U.S. president (JFK) when he donated money and uniforms to the Boston Crusaders in the early 60’s. Chuck Mangione and Maynard Ferguson were notable others that helped grow the activity but really that’s about it. I doubt Bernstein ever knew there was anything outside of marching band in general.
Ah; this show. Such great memories. My best friend and I sat on my living room floor and watched the entire competition on PBS and recorded it on VHS so we could learn guard routines. But, I would also listen to the brass lines over and over. I was in the McDonald’s All American HS Band in 1983-84 with one of the trumpet players in Garfield that marched this show. And Barb Maroney; my goodness…what a superb talent. All of this show was just pure class, exemplary of the activity, and such a joy to watch and listen to. Thanks for leaving us this legendary piece of perfection, GC!
I marched in the Blue Devils that year. I sat next to Hopkins during Garfields prelims performance and they were amazing. I saw 84 Garfield Cadets a few times that summer. Excellent, excellent drum corps. I marched 5 years in the Blue Devils (81-85). 84 was by far my favorite year. By far. Great competition, epic shows.
We did not make finals that day, so I was in the stands watching this live. Barb Maroney, I will always love you, HAHAHA! "New" drum corps had been on the way for three years prior to this with Phantom's 1981 and 1982 "Spartacus" unified theme shows that had a title and all that, and the 1982 and 1983 Garfield drill and music books. It all came together on this night in 1984 with this tremendous performance. I watched this show every day or evening of Second Tour when we hooked up with Garfield. It was intimidating and exciting at the same time. I was in the endzone seats at DCI Whitewater when the soprano player near the end of the line on Side 2 slipped on the slick, dead grass during the Z Pull at the end, causing a huge crash involving like eight or ten players as well as the breaking of this kid's leg, his miraculous finishing of the show, and marching off the field with that broken leg, where he collapsed at the gate on the track. And I was there at the show where the Z Pull was rerouted so that it was no longer blind on Side 2 so that such a huge pileup of bodies was much less likely if someone slipped again. This video of the winning performance of the show was still not the best one, however. They truly maxed it out after the TV cameras were off and many were already leaving the stadium. The GT stadium crew were not informed that the winning corps would need the field lit AFTER everything appeared to be finished so that they could do their victory performance. After Retreat they started shutting off the stadium lights, which take like a half hour to recharge before you can turn them back on. So the 1984 Garfield Cadets performed one last time with all the lights on the right side turned off, everyone having a long, 20-foot shadow from the low lights on the left, with Side 2 being in a sort of twilight. It was fantastic. It is my single, best memory of my time in DCI, standing in a 60% empty Home Side of the GT stadium, in the half-light, seeing this corps run its program one, last time. I will never forget it. It was the night that "Old Corps" lost out by a tenth. Everything changed. Thank you so much for cleaning up this video. It almost feels like being 19 years old, again. Seriously, thanks, from a Hutchinson Sky Ryders FMM…
This is my all-time favorite DCI (or DCA,, or BOA, etc.) show. Absolute beauty. When the sopranos (feels weird to say that now) enter at 9:58 it's so emotionally charged. Our activity has had many great brass teams, but it's hard to imagine a better one than Prime & Van Doren (which they proved again with Star a decade later). Jim Prime Jr (His dad, Jim Prime Sr a legend in the activity himself) did more to decant the essence of the source music than any other arranger in the activity (yes, of course that's my opinion, but I've been doing research on that opinion since about 1960). And for me, this was his finest production. Watching this made me feel as if I were sitting up there in the stands in Georgia once again. What a night - what a show - what a corps.
I agree, this show that The Cadets of Garfield performed is a masterpiece. And in all facets, absolutely progressive and an avant garde interpretation of the West Side Story book of Leonard Bernstein. The integration of brass and percussion is brilliant, and the vocals, and corps movement on the field by the color guard and the corps proper is a thing of beauty. Monumental performance by a legendary drum corps, The Cadets of Garfield NJ.
That was the hardest entrance for a soprano section that I ever had to deal with in my life. Back hash at mezzo piano on those tin cans. I still have nightmares! Good times!
No show revolutionized visual design or successfully broke with convention more than this one. One of the all-time greats and should serve as a reminder of how much effect can be generated without props or amplification.
Exactly...non-linear, asymmetrical drill design, as well as the roll step, became the standard in drill design after this show as well as a more dynamic, rhythmical relationship among the various percussion as well as between percussion and brass. I think the poor on field judges had a hard time not getting trapped in the drill while they were judging😳
@@CSRookie I hear she's a band director. (probably close to retirement) But she was inducted into the Cadets HOF I think in like 2017. Crazy to think though, I was a Cadet Mellophone and her legacy lives in all of us. (Section leader in Cadets2 2012)
@@EvanYoungMusic thanks..... it's so crazy to think that all these corps members from that time period are approaching 60 now....... it goes by too quickly
Agreed! I arranged WSS for a marching band years ago - the band director told me to use this show as a model; that was by far my favorite show I ever arranged, it was so awesome studying and transcribing Mr. Prime's brilliant work.
Thanks for sharing. It's one of the most revolutionary shows in DCI history. Unfortunately in '83 and '84 DCI a different company was used for the broadcast, which is why there's so many closeups that caused the viewer to miss some incredible George Zingali drill moments.
I was wondering why the footage is terrible. ‘83 Cadets is regarded as a milestone and the show that really started to change drill. And here’s an extended closeup of the inside of a horn. In regards to this video, I’m like thanks. I know what a break drum is. Can I see the drill please?
Now its hard to believe this was nearly 40 years ago (in 2024) the age outs will be turning 60 years old. I still believe this is one of the top 10 shows (my opinion) it was the resurgence of Garfield Cadets to a national power.
At 0:50 the mellophones enter thrillingly. There are fine dynamic shadings throughout. You can watch this show with the sound off, or you can listen to it with your eyes closed, and either one is great. And yet the whole still manages to be greater than the sum of its parts.
Kind of a late reply but remember that Garfield took 7th in field percussion that year...and still won. That shows you how good their GE was, not to mention the brass. If Garfield had a top 3 or top 2 percussion line they would have won by more.
@@jonathanwillis1143 BD beat Garfield in drums by 9/10ths. They beat us in GE by the same, so that cancelled out. Then there was the three-way in brass...we're STILL tied. We won guard bu no points were at stake back then. Garfield and SCV tied for M&M, and we were 1/10th back...we lost it in the feet (and one of the brass judges dumped us a bit from prelims)
I still get thrills listening to this show while driving. So many others agree with me that this is a masterpiece of drum corps. Concept, design, charts, arrangements, performance - all of it came together to create this unforgettable drum corps show. I stand and salute EVERYONE who had a hand in this spectacular show. My favorite moment is at 12:24 when the music and drill build to the thrilling company front ( missed by the camera, the director was definitely NOT drum corp savvy) I remember it like it was just yesterday. Bravo!
Can't believe I found this. I was in high school marching band at the time. Several of our staff were former Drum Corps members. Our fall 1985 show was inspired by this very show by Garfield (my senior year)....we did an entire West Side Story show. Every time I hear anything from "West Side Story", marching band still comes to mind....
I realized that when I listened (watched) to this last night, all I thought about was the brass, which I guess is understandable, being a brass guy, but that was such a small part of the transformation of Garfield in the early 80s. I don't think it's too wild a claim to say that George Zingali was the MVP of that new vision of a more integrated DCI show. His visual concepts were completely fresh and new. I talked about the sopranos at 9:58 last night, but look at it as well. You've been focused up front around Ms Maroney for a good part of this production (I Had a Love) and all of a sudden from the back part of the #2 side of the field comes this gorgeous, somewhat understated entrance, that just keeps the piece unfolding. Just a great staff, with Thom Hannum, the afore-mentioned George Z, April Gilligan on guard... and a host of talented instructors (who soon after came to be known as "techs" but they were/are so much more). They were able to take these young people and make them more than a skilled ensemble - they became artists.
i have watched these videos for years now. Just not all that convinced, getting rid of the 2 piston was necessary. . . . . this horn line was a prime example of good brass players know how to make such an instrument sound good.
@Micah the Nerd Saxophonist Oh, they still miss shots, just not as frequently. I don't know HOW IN THE WORLD Flomarching almost missed BAC's stick-on-stick snare part in the 2018 show...they'd only been shooting and showing clips of it all season and knew when it was coming up.
best show i ever saw. being from Jersey they were my favourite corp. taught in WI; used to show this to my band every year before we started marching practice and would ask is they noticed anything about Barb [Maroney]. they didn't, until i pointed out how she was holding her horn with a prosthetic. she was the best! and a few years later was sitting at Finals in Madison and was talking about this show and her [didn't know her name] with a neighbour. person in front of me turned and said who it was and that she was a relative!
Love this show. HOWEVER...viewing this reminds me of how angry I used to get when they would continually show soloists and closeups of people marching, instead of the ever changing formations. They even came close to missing the famous "zig-zag"! I think the people choosing the camera shots were going for "artistic" instead of letting us see the best parts of the show. A few closeups here and there are okay, but not when you miss the amazing formations. The closeups of the siren, the tire rim, and the tympani player not playing.....SHOW ME THE FORMATIONS! I remember sending DCI yearly letters begging them to get people who knew drum corps and the shows to make the decisions on the camera shots . During the last 20 or so years the camera shot selection has improved immensely and you don't feel like you're missing important parts of the show.
This must be from the George Zingalli era with the Cadets. He was an innovator, and a creator. When he exited drum corps, it was corps' loss. A marvelous corps director.
Just been to see the Spielberg movie, which is incidentally amazing, and had to check into this afterwards, next the Bernstein, Carreras and Kitawana in NYC film…
Amen to liking both. I am an alumni of Bluecoats, and yes we have been robbed a couple times these past years by Devil's but I love the Devil's as well. I marched Carolina Crown when they were a Div II corps and I will always support them as well. I love DCI and yes I am partial to BLOOO because I aged out there as a top 12 member and they will always be my brothers and sisters.
This was one of the worst broadcasts of all time. By having the camera focusing on the gong player, a long TV shot of the drum major's crotch, the siren and the car brake drum many fantastic drill moves were missed. I was there. I remember.
you have to be very forgiving of those who produced the DCI broadcasts of the time. Primarily, it was likely produced by a crew that was more adept at producing live sports broadcasts than live marching music shows. plus, technology has changed significantly since then. yes, things could have been better, but be glad that DCI finals was live versus today where it is not, unless one subscribes to that awful flo marching garbage
@@settinitstraight8332 No doubt the FloMarching productions have had their problems, I'm a former subscriber. I also remember the PBS broadcasts. However the Finals broadcasts and blurays produced by Tom Blair today are tremendous!
@@trap4dafu2k0fit Oh...I've got a worse one....1986 DCUK finals (United Kingdom). In 85 they had multi-camera and some good production....then came this. ruclips.net/video/hqYfRX-OqBE/видео.html THIS WAS OUR FINALS RUN!! Looks like it was shot through a potato by a drunk parent! I mean, I was half the cymbal line that year (wearing a BD-style uni and playing West Side Story....the irony was all over the place), so i can find myself, but JESUS, this was bad. I had to convince DCUK to sell me the tape.
The trade off going to Bb/F was never worth it. So, it's more in tune - at the expense of the identifying sound of drum corps. We hear Bb/F in every instrumental genre and it's like eating the exact same thing every day. No matter how technical and exacting "it" sounds, it can never replicate, deliver or come even remotely close to the experience that G bugles deliver. Fortunately, I toured with this group throughout 1984 and heard them nearly every day and night and I can relive it as I heard it. RUclips is a distant second.
What you said X1000! I sometimes enjoy watching contemporary drum corps, but I miss drum and BUGLE corps so very much. It is such a shame that most will never experience what we did in '84 (I was in Florida Wave).
I was there when that happened. It was shocking. We were sitting in the Side 1 endzone all the way across, and it was still easy to see and the most amazing recovery, especially when you know that he broke his leg, and all eight of the fallen got up and back into the form, and then marched off all the way to the gate before the broke-leg soprano player collapsed. I have never seen anything like that before or since. The rerouted Z Pull at the next show was just as attractive and exciting, but much safer for the Side 2 line that had been rushing backwards, blindly up to the accident.
If the Cadets could somehow come to an agreement on a settlement with the woman bringing the suit, could it then be possible for the Cadets to return? Yes, what happened to the woman was wrong, no doubt. Go after the person responsible for the crime but why would that mean taking down the entire iconic 90 yr old DCI organization?
Topaz Labz Video Enhancer AI. It was surprisingly easy and you can upscale any video to 8K if your computer is powerful enough. The quality of the upscale varies from video to video sometimes.
We're going to do West Side Story. Really? That's great! But we have to do it in 12 minutes. Don't.anyone.tell.Lennie. We're marching three octaves of Xylophone. Well, ok. OMG
This is incredible! I've only seen a very fuzzy thrice-copied VHS of this show. How hard is this to do? Any special equipment? Is the AI algorithm your very own? I have some old conducting footage of mine that I would love to upscale to HD.
Video Enhancer AI from Topaz Labs. The results of the upscale vary from video to video so just know that HD won’t always look the best. A good PC will help the process work efficiently.
@Micah the Nerd Saxophonist upscaled the 1984 dvd version. They need to re-release all of their catalog! A world where I can't buy a blu-ray version of the entire 2008 finals is frustrating.
So saddened by today’s news of the Cadets folding. This remains the greatest drum corps show of all time, even now 40 years later.
Glad to see I’m not the only one watching the old Cadets shows after the news
this comment is how I found out...I did end up crying a lot these past couple days. Expect more cadets videos soon
Old drum is exactly that corps now its marching arts on 100yd stage - DCI business model to operate is not a good one SCV almost folded they’ll be more with inflation corps fees astounding 4k to March it was $400 be in 91-92 when i was actively auditioning
Cadets解散？とても残念です 2024年ですが日本から視聴しています(*^^*)
Meh - Should have tied
Some shows are good. Some are great. This one is legendary.
Garfield Cadets in 1983 may have put all the pieces together to win the DCI Championship (through innovative drill and beautiful composition), but in 1984 they perfected their new style and pushed the activity forward by leaps and bounds. Many consider this show THE GOLD STANDARD! There are certainly others worthy of such lofty praise, but the effect this show had on the entire marching activity -- drum corps, H.S. band, college band, European drum corps, Japanese bands, and so on. -- is the stuff of legends. Not until Star of Indiana 1993 do we see this kind of influence. Maybe to some degree we see it in Santa Clara's emotionally-charged Phantom of the Opera in 1988. The brass book in Garfield's WSS is insane and performed so well, so beautifully, so emotional, and powerful when needed. The nuance in dynamics and blends, the adaption to so many rhythms and styles, all while marching a George Zingali masterpiece is nothing short of electrifying! I still get goosebumps watching this on video, and this is such a nice conversion of this video to better quality. Some shows stand the test of time. Garfield Cadets 1984 is one of those shows. East East East!!!!!!!
This performance changed the whole dynamic of drum corps, it became the gold standard of DCI and remains so to this day. It has not been replicated and cannot be. It made Leonard Bernstein and all of us so proud!
Bernstein had a knowledge/appreciation of this show?
@@johnolson5538 I've often wondered the same...
@@johnolson5538 probably not unfortunately. Drum corps is not well known outside the music world as much as we want it to be. At the height of its popularity it was acknowledged by a U.S. president (JFK) when he donated money and uniforms to the Boston Crusaders in the early 60’s. Chuck Mangione and Maynard Ferguson were notable others that helped grow the activity but really that’s about it. I doubt Bernstein ever knew there was anything outside of marching band in general.
12:46
What a maneuvah!
RIP 😞
Ah; this show. Such great memories. My best friend and I sat on my living room floor and watched the entire competition on PBS and recorded it on VHS so we could learn guard routines. But, I would also listen to the brass lines over and over. I was in the McDonald’s All American HS Band in 1983-84 with one of the trumpet players in Garfield that marched this show. And Barb Maroney; my goodness…what a superb talent. All of this show was just pure class, exemplary of the activity, and such a joy to watch and listen to. Thanks for leaving us this legendary piece of perfection, GC!
Very sad, thinking about this magical show, that 40 years later the corps is inactive for 2024.. I'll never forget Atlanta in '84.
When discussing the GOAT DCI solos...conversation begins and ends with this show!
I marched in the Blue Devils that year. I sat next to Hopkins during Garfields prelims performance and they were amazing. I saw 84 Garfield Cadets a few times that summer. Excellent, excellent drum corps. I marched 5 years in the Blue Devils (81-85). 84 was by far my favorite year. By far. Great competition, epic shows.
...and the 85 BD hornline remains in my top of all time...what power and beauty flowing off the field...
That top 3 in 84 was just so good!!!
If only we hadn't been rained out at Pt. Huron...
We did not make finals that day, so I was in the stands watching this live. Barb Maroney, I will always love you, HAHAHA! "New" drum corps had been on the way for three years prior to this with Phantom's 1981 and 1982 "Spartacus" unified theme shows that had a title and all that, and the 1982 and 1983 Garfield drill and music books. It all came together on this night in 1984 with this tremendous performance. I watched this show every day or evening of Second Tour when we hooked up with Garfield. It was intimidating and exciting at the same time. I was in the endzone seats at DCI Whitewater when the soprano player near the end of the line on Side 2 slipped on the slick, dead grass during the Z Pull at the end, causing a huge crash involving like eight or ten players as well as the breaking of this kid's leg, his miraculous finishing of the show, and marching off the field with that broken leg, where he collapsed at the gate on the track. And I was there at the show where the Z Pull was rerouted so that it was no longer blind on Side 2 so that such a huge pileup of bodies was much less likely if someone slipped again. This video of the winning performance of the show was still not the best one, however. They truly maxed it out after the TV cameras were off and many were already leaving the stadium. The GT stadium crew were not informed that the winning corps would need the field lit AFTER everything appeared to be finished so that they could do their victory performance. After Retreat they started shutting off the stadium lights, which take like a half hour to recharge before you can turn them back on. So the 1984 Garfield Cadets performed one last time with all the lights on the right side turned off, everyone having a long, 20-foot shadow from the low lights on the left, with Side 2 being in a sort of twilight. It was fantastic. It is my single, best memory of my time in DCI, standing in a 60% empty Home Side of the GT stadium, in the half-light, seeing this corps run its program one, last time. I will never forget it. It was the night that "Old Corps" lost out by a tenth. Everything changed.
Thank you so much for cleaning up this video. It almost feels like being 19 years old, again. Seriously, thanks, from a Hutchinson Sky Ryders FMM…
This is my all-time favorite DCI (or DCA,, or BOA, etc.) show. Absolute beauty. When the sopranos (feels weird to say that now) enter at 9:58 it's so emotionally charged. Our activity has had many great brass teams, but it's hard to imagine a better one than Prime & Van Doren (which they proved again with Star a decade later). Jim Prime Jr (His dad, Jim Prime Sr a legend in the activity himself) did more to decant the essence of the source music than any other arranger in the activity (yes, of course that's my opinion, but I've been doing research on that opinion since about 1960). And for me, this was his finest production. Watching this made me feel as if I were sitting up there in the stands in Georgia once again. What a night - what a show - what a corps.
Yep, I'm always coming back to this show! Love it!
I agree, this show that The Cadets of Garfield performed is a masterpiece. And in all facets, absolutely progressive and an avant garde interpretation of the West Side Story book of Leonard Bernstein. The integration of brass and percussion is brilliant, and the vocals, and corps movement on the field by the color guard and the corps proper is a thing of beauty. Monumental performance by a legendary drum corps, The Cadets of Garfield NJ.
That was the hardest entrance for a soprano section that I ever had to deal with in my life. Back hash at mezzo piano on those tin cans. I still have nightmares! Good times!
No show revolutionized visual design or successfully broke with convention more than this one. One of the all-time greats and should serve as a reminder of how much effect can be generated without props or amplification.
I could not agree more!!!....was, and still IS off the charts amazing!!
Exactly...non-linear, asymmetrical drill design, as well as the roll step, became the standard in drill design after this show as well as a more dynamic, rhythmical relationship among the various percussion as well as between percussion and brass. I think the poor on field judges had a hard time not getting trapped in the drill while they were judging😳
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And those two-valve G bugles, mellophones screaming, and real bell-front contras, kickin' out the jams.
Barb Maroney ..... you'll always be the greatest soloist in DCI history ....
whatever happened to her??
@@CSRookie I hear she's a band director. (probably close to retirement) But she was inducted into the Cadets HOF I think in like 2017. Crazy to think though, I was a Cadet Mellophone and her legacy lives in all of us. (Section leader in Cadets2 2012)
@@EvanYoungMusic thanks..... it's so crazy to think that all these corps members from that time period are approaching 60 now....... it goes by too quickly
@dan hurd: WRONG!!
@@settinitstraight8332 To each their own ..... who gets your vote for "Greatest"?
Absolutely one of the greatest DCI shows of all time.
The Jim Prime orchestration of this horn book is the greatest in DCI history.
Agreed! I arranged WSS for a marching band years ago - the band director told me to use this show as a model; that was by far my favorite show I ever arranged, it was so awesome studying and transcribing Mr. Prime's brilliant work.
Thanks for sharing. It's one of the most revolutionary shows in DCI history. Unfortunately in '83 and '84 DCI a different company was used for the broadcast, which is why there's so many closeups that caused the viewer to miss some incredible George Zingali drill moments.
I was wondering why the footage is terrible. ‘83 Cadets is regarded as a milestone and the show that really started to change drill. And here’s an extended closeup of the inside of a horn.
In regards to this video, I’m like thanks. I know what a break drum is. Can I see the drill please?
I know every note to this show
Thats why its legendary
One of the best conceived shows ever. West Side Story was meant for Drum Corps. Gotta love Bernstein
probably one of the greatest solo's in Drum Corps history.
Still gives me chills! So glad I got to see this show in person in 1984. It blew me away
Now its hard to believe this was nearly 40 years ago (in 2024) the age outs will be turning 60 years old. I still believe this is one of the top 10 shows (my opinion) it was the resurgence of Garfield Cadets to a national power.
Don't remind me on the age thing....it was MY ageout year as well.
At 0:50 the mellophones enter thrillingly. There are fine dynamic shadings throughout. You can watch this show with the sound off, or you can listen to it with your eyes closed, and either one is great. And yet the whole still manages to be greater than the sum of its parts.
Still gives me chills after 39 years.
Had the pleasure of seeing this in Allentown that year.
'truly should have won by more than 0.1.
Saw it in person...agreed this was leaps and bounds ahead of ots time
Kind of a late reply but remember that Garfield took 7th in field percussion that year...and still won. That shows you how good their GE was, not to mention the brass. If Garfield had a top 3 or top 2 percussion line they would have won by more.
@@jonathanwillis1143 BD beat Garfield in drums by 9/10ths. They beat us in GE by the same, so that cancelled out. Then there was the three-way in brass...we're STILL tied. We won guard bu no points were at stake back then. Garfield and SCV tied for M&M, and we were 1/10th back...we lost it in the feet (and one of the brass judges dumped us a bit from prelims)
My favorite all-time DCI show. Brings back so many memories
I still get thrills listening to this show while driving. So many others agree with me that this is a masterpiece of drum corps.
Concept, design, charts, arrangements, performance - all of it came together to create this unforgettable drum corps show.
I stand and salute EVERYONE who had a hand in this spectacular show. My favorite moment is at 12:24 when the music and drill build to the thrilling company front ( missed by the camera, the director was definitely NOT drum corp savvy) I remember it like it was just yesterday. Bravo!
Can't believe I found this. I was in high school marching band at the time. Several of our staff were former Drum Corps members. Our fall 1985 show was inspired by this very show by Garfield (my senior year)....we did an entire West Side Story show. Every time I hear anything from "West Side Story", marching band still comes to mind....
I realized that when I listened (watched) to this last night, all I thought about was the brass, which I guess is understandable, being a brass guy, but that was such a small part of the transformation of Garfield in the early 80s. I don't think it's too wild a claim to say that George Zingali was the MVP of that new vision of a more integrated DCI show. His visual concepts were completely fresh and new. I talked about the sopranos at 9:58 last night, but look at it as well. You've been focused up front around Ms Maroney for a good part of this production (I Had a Love) and all of a sudden from the back part of the #2 side of the field comes this gorgeous, somewhat understated entrance, that just keeps the piece unfolding. Just a great staff, with Thom Hannum, the afore-mentioned George Z, April Gilligan on guard... and a host of talented instructors (who soon after came to be known as "techs" but they were/are so much more). They were able to take these young people and make them more than a skilled ensemble - they became artists.
i have watched these videos for years now. Just not all that convinced, getting rid of the 2 piston was necessary. . . . . this horn line was a prime example of good brass players know how to make such an instrument sound good.
the tradition of horrific camera editing.
You mean like showing the sideline as the corps is moving into the final company front? :D
Don't get me going on shot selection back then....I'm lucky I got the camera pass I did.
It is soooo bad!
@@mrbear1302 camera work is very very very bad no question horrible
@Micah the Nerd Saxophonist Oh, they still miss shots, just not as frequently. I don't know HOW IN THE WORLD Flomarching almost missed BAC's stick-on-stick snare part in the 2018 show...they'd only been shooting and showing clips of it all season and knew when it was coming up.
This show.... just yes!!!! Thats is all... the beginning of it all!
I first saw this show on VHS in hi-cam in 1988 at the ripe old age of 16. It made me a drum corps fan for life.
Truly groundbreaking, makes other corps of the time period seem like they have princess drill
This was the most perfect show i ever watched performed, EVER. 98.6. BLEW EVERYONE AWAY.
The Gold Standard.
Goosebumps throughout. Drum Corps at its finest!
best show i ever saw. being from Jersey they were my favourite corp. taught in WI; used to show this to my band every year before we started marching practice and would ask is they noticed anything about Barb [Maroney]. they didn't, until i pointed out how she was holding her horn with a prosthetic. she was the best! and a few years later was sitting at Finals in Madison and was talking about this show and her [didn't know her name] with a neighbour. person in front of me turned and said who it was and that she was a relative!
Jersey did everyone proud, took both DCA and DCI championships for both '84 and '85.
Love this show. HOWEVER...viewing this reminds me of how angry I used to get when they would continually show soloists and closeups of people marching, instead of the ever changing formations. They even came close to missing the famous "zig-zag"! I think the people choosing the camera shots were going for "artistic" instead of letting us see the best parts of the show. A few closeups here and there are okay, but not when you miss the amazing formations. The closeups of the siren, the tire rim, and the tympani player not playing.....SHOW ME THE FORMATIONS! I remember sending DCI yearly letters begging them to get people who knew drum corps and the shows to make the decisions on the camera shots . During the last 20 or so years the camera shot selection has improved immensely and you don't feel like you're missing important parts of the show.
1984 hi-cam from semis...ruclips.net/video/34a0T-EfaSo/видео.html
You mean "Z pull". So awesome that Phantom Regiment did that in tribute to the Cadets in this year's show.
And this would be the last time a corps successfully defended it's first title.
Blue devil's 1976 and 1977? Or vanguard 1973 and 1974? Or did they win in pre DCI days that I don't know about
@@jakenowell5211 He is saying the last time.. it hasn't happened since for a corps first title
@@ez8308 haha duh. I didn't see it
wow, when I saw this comment, I thought about Star, Cavies, and even Carolina and you're right lol
@@CSRookie I DO have a certain reason to remember this year...
Wow. I don't remember the broadcast even being that wonderful! How great!
One of my favorite shows of all time
I loved this show!!!!
And audiences SCREAMING for it !!!!! Too bad we'll never see it again.....
In the whole world...
The went on to Win in Atlanta,where I'm now. One of their best ever
I think the most amazing thing is that Z saw it all in his head! Even more astonishing considering the technology used today to create Drill. 27!
That upscale is amazing beyond belief!! Thank you for this!!
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Thank you Colin. It’s beautiful.
Nothing touches this.
this is stil great stuff!!! love it al the way!!
This must be from the George Zingalli era with the Cadets. He was an innovator, and a creator. When he exited drum corps, it was corps' loss. A marvelous corps director.
3rd year, I believe.
Wasnt a director numb nuts
Was in the process of moving to Atlanta in 1984. Saw this show.
I still love this outstanding show and the mellophone soloist is still amazing.
This was voted number one DCI show of all time?
I agree but man BD 86 and Garfield 87?
Barb Maloney - Mellophone Buttah
Any decent horn player can play this. Nothin hard about it
I love this show. It was by far the best show of ‘84.
Just been to see the Spielberg movie, which is incidentally amazing, and had to check into this afterwards, next the Bernstein, Carreras and Kitawana in NYC film…
This is a great video, but this show is so much more live. Thank you for Posting!
This is amazing
East. God ... little did devils know they'd get a friend for 20 years. Made them both better. BOTH! So shut it. Were aĺl allowed to like both!
84 BD is an example of their really good 2nd place shows that people love
Amen to liking both. I am an alumni of Bluecoats, and yes we have been robbed a couple times these past years by Devil's but I love the Devil's as well. I marched Carolina Crown when they were a Div II corps and I will always support them as well. I love DCI and yes I am partial to BLOOO because I aged out there as a top 12 member and they will always be my brothers and sisters.
@@colinkelly8393 IMO 84 BD is the greatest 2nd place finisher ever. Unbelievable show and (of course) performance.
Devils and Cadets, both 6 lettered words, 66. Second degree freemasonary, flipped is 99, three 33's , Master/third degree freemasonary.
@@colinkelly8393 Thank you.
So well done!!
Mostly, I will always love our your cadets
First time seeing this show. Amazing!
Beautiful, loved this
I was here my Aunt April Marched for them These years
This was one of the worst broadcasts of all time. By having the camera focusing on the gong player, a long TV shot of the drum major's crotch, the siren and the car brake drum many fantastic drill moves were missed. I was there. I remember.
you have to be very forgiving of those who produced the DCI broadcasts of the time. Primarily, it was likely produced by a crew that was more adept at producing live sports broadcasts than live marching music shows. plus, technology has changed significantly since then. yes, things could have been better, but be glad that DCI finals was live versus today where it is not, unless one subscribes to that awful flo marching garbage
@@settinitstraight8332 No doubt the FloMarching productions have had their problems, I'm a former subscriber. I also remember the PBS broadcasts. However the Finals broadcasts and blurays produced by Tom Blair today are tremendous!
For pbs in 84, its not half bad.
Flomarching is something out of a late 80s wedding video, drunk recorder with shaky cocaine hands and all.
@@trap4dafu2k0fit Oh...I've got a worse one....1986 DCUK finals (United Kingdom).
In 85 they had multi-camera and some good production....then came this. ruclips.net/video/hqYfRX-OqBE/видео.html
THIS WAS OUR FINALS RUN!! Looks like it was shot through a potato by a drunk parent!
I mean, I was half the cymbal line that year (wearing a BD-style uni and playing West Side Story....the irony was all over the place), so i can find myself, but JESUS, this was bad. I had to convince DCUK to sell me the tape.
Great upload. The funny thing is EVERYONE here knows the 3 thumbs down, comes from SCV 1987 drumline, who are forever mad at Garfield.
The trade off going to Bb/F was never worth it. So, it's more in tune - at the expense of the identifying sound of drum corps. We hear Bb/F in every instrumental genre and it's like eating the exact same thing every day. No matter how technical and exacting "it" sounds, it can never replicate, deliver or come even remotely close to the experience that G bugles deliver. Fortunately, I toured with this group throughout 1984 and heard them nearly every day and night and I can relive it as I heard it. RUclips is a distant second.
I always thought that as well, the G bugles is what make Drum Corp what it is and what it should be.
What you said X1000! I sometimes enjoy watching contemporary drum corps, but I miss drum and BUGLE corps so very much. It is such a shame that most will never experience what we did in '84 (I was in Florida Wave).
need more high angle shots
One for the ages.
Oh, Barb...❤
Marsha, mRasha, Marsha!, its about money
First time, this show , West Virginia,
:48-:57 I saw this live...... it was during these 9 seconds that I knew somehow they'd be champs for a long long time
Mmmyyyyyy pppprrreeeccciiiiooouuuusssss.......
best show in 84 by far!!
@@ez8308 Bite me, Eric! :)
As epic as it gets...If the staff had not split and went off to make other corps epic - JUST THINK what else could have come!
Look/listen to 1984, DO IT NOW... DAMMIT,
Barb solo!
Geez...some of those contras are still piston/rotor!
Regarded by many as the top DCI show of all time. It has it all!
12:40 Had he not caught himself, he’d have tripped another Whitewater debacle. 🤭
I was there when that happened. It was shocking. We were sitting in the Side 1 endzone all the way across, and it was still easy to see and the most amazing recovery, especially when you know that he broke his leg, and all eight of the fallen got up and back into the form, and then marched off all the way to the gate before the broke-leg soprano player collapsed. I have never seen anything like that before or since. The rerouted Z Pull at the next show was just as attractive and exciting, but much safer for the Side 2 line that had been rushing backwards, blindly up to the accident.
@@holton345 Great story! Trivium: the NINTH guy - the 1st not to go down - was the sop soloist. 🎺
If the Cadets could somehow come to an agreement on a settlement with the woman bringing the suit, could it then be possible for the Cadets to return? Yes, what happened to the woman was wrong, no doubt. Go after the person responsible for the crime but why would that mean taking down the entire iconic 90 yr old DCI organization?
What software did you use to do the upscaling? This is amazing. Kudos!
Topaz Labz Video Enhancer AI. It was surprisingly easy and you can upscale any video to 8K if your computer is powerful enough. The quality of the upscale varies from video to video sometimes.
@@colinkelly8393 Thanks! Trying it now with one of my old Bluecoats videos.
WOW thank you for that enhancement
Oops, they won here,✌️
We're going to do West Side Story.
Really? That's great!
But we have to do it in 12 minutes.
Don't.anyone.tell.Lennie.
We're marching three octaves of Xylophone.
Well, ok.
OMG
0:40
So ........
How did they. Win ?
Not today's news,
What software did you use?
Topaz Labs. Software so good that I purchased it straight up after the free trial
Class, not ass
This is incredible! I've only seen a very fuzzy thrice-copied VHS of this show. How hard is this to do? Any special equipment? Is the AI algorithm your very own? I have some old conducting footage of mine that I would love to upscale to HD.
Video Enhancer AI from Topaz Labs. The results of the upscale vary from video to video so just know that HD won’t always look the best. A good PC will help the process work efficiently.
@Micah the Nerd Saxophonist upscaled the 1984 dvd version. They need to re-release all of their catalog! A world where I can't buy a blu-ray version of the entire 2008 finals is frustrating.
No plastic
Gawd, were they awful. And man, were they fantastic.
Out with the old....in with the new.
´84 CADET HERE - CONTRABASE. OH YEAAAAA!
The recordings were great during this time
No plastic