Did Sauron Survive The Lord of the Rings | LOTR Lore

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025
  • Did Sauron Survive The Lord of the Rings | LOTR Lore

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  • @fred20097
    @fred20097 13 дней назад +3

    But it says quite clearly in the return of the king Sauron becomes a harmless shadow, hiding in some lonely spot, eating itself up with malice, but unable to make any impact whatsoever on middle earth ever again - the main reason being most of him fell into the fires of Mt Doom, along with the ring. In short, his ability to do anything ended along with the ring.
    Cool video though! I love 'what if' videos 😊

    • @ofb1583
      @ofb1583 12 дней назад

      Agreed 'eating itself within it's own malice'. Manwe the lord of winds blew the rising shadow away, never to effect the world again. Pretty clear, but sentenced to be in the world till the final battle, how awful for a dominator.

    • @fred20097
      @fred20097 12 дней назад

      @@ofb1583 absolutely 👍

  • @himerosTheGod
    @himerosTheGod 12 дней назад

    Can we get a speculative video on what Arda would have been had evil never came to exist.

  • @ofb1583
    @ofb1583 13 дней назад +2

    Have you noticed how awful yet somehow strangely apposite Tolkien's punishments are? Oath breakers as humans destined to be reunited with the one, forced to wait almost an entire age without Eru's special gift to man until released by the heir of the one they broke faith with. The same denial of return of fea to the one, for the dark compacts made by the ring wraiths. Ar Pharazon & his king's guard, desirous of immortality, granted just that but buried under a gigantic landslide. Sentenced to an eternity in the holy land they were barred from entering, again without the sweet release promised to all men not even the respite of the halls of Mandos.
    The two Maiar who through their own egotistical desires for control over Arda, lost all ability to take form. After the final destruction of their Hroa great dark clouds arise from their remains. Only when looking away west to be met with strong ,cold winds blowing their essences away with a sigh. Forced to watch for an eternity unable to take solid form and inflict their evil plans on the destinies of the free peoples.
    The greatest of the Valar according to Eru, bound with a great chain and cast into the void an eternal being denied his own perceived domination. Maimed by Fingolfin and burned by his unclean touch on the silmarils. Mending those hurts prevented, what would an eternal need with healing powers for himself. Awaiting through all the ages for the eventual Dagor Dagorath with only his ultimate defeat to look forward to. Each moment in the void an eternity as only the spinning and wheeling of stars to mark the passage of time. Arda marred from the beginning during the Ainulindale but left to heal with the gentle help of the Ainur without domination or chaos, torture for unrestrained egos in deed.

    • @fred20097
      @fred20097 13 дней назад +1

      @@ofb1583 even Gollum - I wish he hadn't fallen into Mt Doom too. I would've preferred a happy ending. And even the orcs - it seems overly unfair that if their ancestors were indeed captured elves, that they had no free will, no choice but to be evil. After all, it was through no fault of their own.

    • @ofb1583
      @ofb1583 12 дней назад +1

      @fred20097 More of Tolkien's catholic faith breaking? What always seemed to be required was a /the sacrifice or following their fate or nature. The suspicion must be, just like his own faith Eru the one true god was most merciful, even orcs and fallen humans were given the opportunity to repent. Whilst victims & their loved ones suffer unto the grace of the lord 🙄

    • @fred20097
      @fred20097 12 дней назад +1

      @@ofb1583 Yeap, there's an inherent conflict between predestination and free will. For example, is the Numenoreans initial, pre-Sauron corruption due to Morgoth's residue in middle earth, or their own choice? A moot point really, but fun to speculate 👍

    • @fred20097
      @fred20097 12 дней назад +1

      @@ofb1583 interesting take on redemption and justice.

    • @MythologicalStories-q1z
      @MythologicalStories-q1z 5 дней назад +1

      Tolkien’s punishments are poetic in their irony-each one perfectly tailored to the character’s flaws and desires. Oathbreakers, Nazgûl, and Ar-Pharazôn all face fates that mirror their choices, turning their ambitions into eternal burdens. Even Morgoth, once the mightiest, is left powerless in the Void, his wounds unhealed and his dominion forever denied. It’s as if Middle-earth itself enforces balance, ensuring that unchecked ego and betrayal lead not just to downfall, but to a fate worse than death-an existence without purpose.

  • @paulkirby2761
    @paulkirby2761 12 дней назад +1

    Saurons ring story is rather drab to begin with. It would make more logical sense that destroying the ring in Mount Dooms lava only destroys the ring but RELEASES Saurons attached power rather than destroying it with the ring, returning once more to Sauron. How does a melting ring and lava destroy magic too ffs 💍🤣

    • @ofb1583
      @ofb1583 5 дней назад

      @@paulkirby2761 But it's 'Maajgiic" & I like my magic nice, inexplicable & arcane. Whilst you are being urbane, amusing & logical, you have to bear in mind that you are robbing my fantasies, "don't you oppress me"! I'm now forced to cope with thoughts of how lava barely hot enough to melt gold, leaves you with a cast that can accept colossal energies at the same time. These energies being able to manage the balrogs fury, cause tsunami in upland streams & inspire courage instantaneously in millions of men. Now you've gone & done it, hope dashed again, locked inside Pandora's box woe is me🙄👍😉