42 Well Churchill continued exporting wheat from India to Great Britain whilst there was a famine, that alone killed around 4 million Bengalis in 1943. „Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”“ www.google.de/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html%3famp Yes Churchill was really a nice guy ;-)
Just because a few minorities died here and there that doesn’t mean you can’t be proud of of your countries achievements. Too many people are trying to make us hate our own empires yet ignoring the fact that we did more good than bad. For example, you wouldn’t be using the internet if it weren’t for us.
@WW1 German Stormtrooper He called him an idiot, which very heavily implies that he thinks that thinking that this is a horrible plan make one an idiot.
"We have to dismatle germany, the whole existence of theses country is dangerous for our might!" Churchill Switches rivals "We need a capable Germany to Deal with the new dangerous enemy!" Just as a Thommy do.
that's what makes a succesful politician, i guess. churchill himself wasn't especially free of antisemitic tendencies either. i mean, who really was at that time in europe? it was never about saving the jews or the german opposition, it was mostly an imperialistic war. after all, it was the red army that freed ausschwitz (obviously due to the western/eastern front complex) and germans like schindler who saved a lot of lives. communists, socialists and other leftists also already were good enough to fight nazis but when they tried to impose their economical system, they suddenly become the new enemy of the west. and still to this day, people who righfully claimed that communism always failed. but they never make the argument that the west/anti-communists might just be better at winning wars.
@@yoshikatsumi You forgot that the Red Army continued to use Auschwitz to detain the Polish dissidents and that the Soviets were initially allied with Hitler in partitionin orgot that left wingers oppossed the war in the Western countries until Soviet Russia was attacked. Plus the fact that Germans elected Hitler because they (rightfully) feared that the Communists would storm in and destroy their way of life(which they successfully did in Russia) and the fact that Fascism and Nazism were rooted in NAtional Syndicalism You leftists are the literal scum of the Earth
@@scutumfidelis1436 Everyone had a point. If you are to look at European history, a very bleak light is cast upon them. Imagine living for many generations and leeching off nations, never to fit in, only following the purpose of your kin and not of the host nation. I am glad they founded their nation, they all belong there.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Its not even their nation according to the bible the name Israel is actually a blasphemous statement as well as the name holocaust. For Christians Jesus was the final holocaust.
@@jankupka9106 Doubtful. The Germans wouldn't be able to make a state. You would of saw the return of the Germanic. They would of been forced into a state that makes them like Caesar's time.
@Sinan Royal And even that is debatable.... 1/3 of the Germans had elected this Austrian who, after the suffering and humiliation caused by the Versailles Treaty, went too far even for some important Allied politicians. The final nail in the coffin was the stock market crash that set Germany back completely, including famine. This gave strong support to the left and right wings. And the Polish campaign was only supported by a part of the population, and only after propaganda that spoke of Polish crimes against Germans. However, even Göring and a few others were against this campaign, because they did not want a war (with GB). But the Austrian, Goebbels and a few others were keen to invade Poland.... Morgenthau envisaged a similar approach as after WW2, which would have definitely radicalised Germany again and certainly communist. The more intelligent politicians also noticed this immediately, and also that Morgenthau was not concerned with peace but with revenge. While serious politicians wanted Germany to be a helpful partner and outpost against the Soviet Union. It is clear anyway that Germany was not to blame for the First World War, nor did it start it. Practically everyone wanted war because of nationalism, communism, imperialism, jealousy and their own supposed strength thanks to industrialisation on a large scale. And if the war hadn't started that way, it would have started sooner or later because of something else... unlike World War 2, the first one was inevitable.
Monsieur Z Germany couldn’t have been broken up after WW1 as its army had only been beaten to a stalemate. They only relented because of the fresh American troops boosting the entente forces. The entente didn’t have the will, manpower, or resources to push through into Germany and occupy it. If they managed to somehow do that, they’d likely go for capturing and trying the Kaiser (unjustly) as a war criminal. The French wanted him executed. This would cause a mass uproar in Germany and there would be more riots and partisans style resistance. Germany might go Communist with the Spartacists gaining traction. The French Army might mutiny after being forced to fight after facing such stiff resistance.
@@justinpachi3707 An independent Rhineland, an independent Bavaria, a French Sarre and a Danish Schleswig would have been a formality. I am less familiar with the east, but a bigger Poland and Lithuania could have been pushed in the peace treaty. Germany would have to agree to this terms or face an economical and military collapse that would greatly benefit its enemies in the long term (balance of power). Bavarians took their independence on their own for a few weeks in 1919, with international support the birth of a stable south-german independant Bavaria would be in the realm of possibilities. In our timeline the demilitarisation and foreign occupation of the Rhineland was critical to France, if not for the Wilsonian ideals the french governement would have supported the independence of Rhineland with all its might (small war reparation, trade, etc). Finally, for the Sarre and Schleswig annexations, it could have gone smoothly because of big Francophone and Danish minorities. One should note that if the Wilsonians ideals were not applied, Italy wouldn't have experienced its "mutilated victory" (Italy would have been given more Austrian lands), avoiding the birth of fascism.
The main problem was: After the unification of 1871, Germany was too strong for many European countries, who therefore fancied the idea to reduce Germany back to the fragmented patchwork it was during the 1000 years of the Holy Roman Empire. Thus, the Germans would fight themselves and play no role in global politics.
Some politician once said that the tragedy of Germany is that she is to strong to not try dominate Europe but not strong enough to actually pull it off. We see that again in our time. Doesn't matter if we want it or not, German economic power rules the EU.
The main problem was: before 1871 France was too stong for many European countries. European history from 1648 to 1871 can be summarised as: how to avoid French dominance over Europe. Only after WW2 balance was achieved, hence the reluctance of some European leaders to accept the German reunification.
@F.W. I fully recognize your argument and agree completely. That being said, I would like to see China in another Waring States Period, if for no other reason than it would put China in a place not to dissimilar to Russia Post-Soviet Collapse. That and it would be funny.
@@freddym99 i guess the most ironic part of this is that at the time they were trying their best to brutally suppress all the independence movements all over their colonial empires
Germany: Fights against Soviets. Allies: Fight against Germany and refuse ro make peace unless it's an uncoditional surrender. Allies after 1945: What is this big red blob on the map?
@@alexanderzippel8809 Ok, so both sides share some (I didn’t say: “equal”) blame. I never disagreed with that postulate. I’m just saying a lot of people died in 1945; and maybe there is a lesson for all of us. The war’s outcome was unstoppable by Fall, 1944. It just would have been nice to save millions of lives if we could have had the Allies not look like they were drafting early versions of: “Versailles 2.0; and this time we REALLY make the Germans suffer forever”!
I'm Anglo and I'm sad about this. I hate how Germany was abused throughout history and made out to be the villain. Villain? More like a product of the allies and ententes games.. They wanted honor and respect. I honestly can't watch anymore of this because its just sick.
@ its not modern day germans that dealt with the that they are practically different people than what they were in the 1900s countries commited war atrocities it isn't right but holding grudges towards people is ignorant and doesn't solve problems
Worra surprisingly there are a good amount of people who’ve done it and won. For some reason I’ve noticed it’s easier to push the Soviets back, but not the French....
Ethnic cleansing of Germans from their historic lands in Poland and Czech Republic was as harsh as the war started by them. Two wrongs don’t make it right.
I know and it's unfair to them, also germans are very nice people with great culture and language and I am very interested in it even though I am a palestinian
In fact ethnic cleansing in Poland was much more lenient than in Czechoslovakia where Czechs murdered approx. 30000 Germans (by for example burning alive german civilians). In comparison in Poland died only few hundred Germans.
@@indranilbose9454 I think my comment was deleted, or something. So I am not going to say 'the word'. But I would rather describe myself as the last one, but not fully. And thank you :)
@@henryopitz3254 Sure he was an asshole, but that has nothing to do with judaism. All the Nazis were mainly catholic, who blames the catholics for the Holocaust? Most Britains are protestant, who blames the protestants for the massmurder in the boor wars ? My greatuncle got an iron cross for bravery , he fought for Germany as an officer in WWI and ? He was jewish.....
His idea of having Hungary in the south German state is absolute insane and frankly a restoration of Prussia contradicts the generally accepted idea that German militarism comes from Prussia
@@elgoog-the-third After a year of personal growth since I said that: you are absolutely right. That being said, Churchill's plan made absolutely zero fucking sense at all.
"Hey guys, you know how we screwed over Germany once already after the first Great War?" "Yeah? What about it?" "Well, since it didn't work the first time, how about we do it again, but HARSHER this time. I think we went to easy on them the first go around. Maybe if we split them up into more states and completely destroy their way of life, they'll become docile and never start a war again." "That sound... FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC! Let's do it! What could go wrong?" "Right? It sounds like a good plan to me!"
Thinking that the treaty of Versailles was very-harsh is an over simplification. It was too harsh to form a stable relationship with Germany, sure... but it was far from what was initially planed : splitting Germany to break its unity and bring peace to Europe once and for all. It would have been easier to implement back then: both Bavaria and Rhineland were having separatist movements, Denmark had strong claims over the Schleswig-Holstein and the borders in the east were far from fixed. Germany basically owns it unity to the USA and the Wilsonian doctrine of the Fourteen Points. Basically, the treaty of Versailles was very bad since it punished Germany too much to have it as an ally, while was not harsh enough to destroy the German war machine.
@@JVPierre142 I don't think you realize what kind of economic demands that treaty enforced on Germany. The reparations as written would've taken 92 years to pay off. In other words till 2010. Two generations that weren't even alive during WWI would've been paying for that. Additionally France was confiscating machinery as part of the reparations stifling the german economy so they couldn't pay the debt. Which France took as a reason to confiscate more machinery effectively driving Germany into an economic downward spiral. The reason Hitler was able to revitalize the economy when the previous government couldn't was because he just ignored all the sanctions that the Weimar Republic abided by.
The Germans got lucky, they were not Screwed over, what a joke. Try reading history in an unbiased way. The Russians sent an army into Germany, yet Germany sent 90% of the troops into France, unprovvoked. This was a choice The Germans were lucky that Lloyd George and Woodrow Wilson, were more lenient , than Clemenceau. The French presidennt, if you had his way, probably would have ended Germany completely What tthe German elites put the French people through (in particuular), in the space of 40 years, was utterly diabolical
@@daikolirae155 That's disappointing to me as a Missourian. I've always had a soft spot for him and respected his resolve in the bombings of Horishima and Nagasaki.
@@Guardias wait til you find out they were completely unnecessary and Japan was gonna surrender anyway, cause they literally couldnt carry on, they were starving and the soviets entering the war was the final nail, not the bombs
I'm not even european but this has me in a state of pure rage. Like the allies just found out about the holocaust and for punishment they decide to use similar methods on the Germans. Yeah, totally the "good guys"!
The Soviets seem to have changed their minds fairly quickly about whether to loot their occupation zone in eastern Germany as payment of reparations, in our own world. Initially after the war they hauled out a lot of valuables, and especially industrial equipment and anything related to military and scientific research, of course. Complete factories (or what remained of them, at least) were dismantled and hauled out of the ruins of Dresden and Berlin to have those production lines reassembled with the machinery and operated in Russia or Ukraine. When Stalin saw the west take the opposite tack, and plow massive resources INTO their occupation zones via the Marshall Plan and other aid, rather than hauling wealth OUT, they must have realized they needed to invest in their zone (soon to become the DDR) if it was to have any hope of survival as a satellite state in economic or military terms. The Soviets could not allow any more of a disparity in living conditions between their zone and the western occupation zones than the already widening gap that was NOT in their favor. The desire for revenge, and economic need for loot of all kinds is completely understandable post-war. But sometimes you win by helping to rebuild your former adversary, rather than focusing on crushing them as punishment. To some degree, that was the lesson the world learned after Germany's arguably overly harsh treatment post-WWI. It's not about "letting them get away with it." It's about creating conditions for a nation to rebuild. And, spoiler alert, if you treat them well you can have a HUGE influence on shaping their new culture and state. With massive investment both by the west and the Soviets into their respective zones, West Germany became one of the world's largest economies fairly quickly. The DDR became the showpiece economy of the socialist world, with a significantly higher standard of living than most of the eastern bloc. Germany's highly educated and motivated workforce, and scientific/industrial capacity is a huge asset to anyone, especially to the German people.
The Brits and US didn't, but France did, just like the Soviets. France did everything in their power to block anything the US and Britain did to try and rebuild or help Germany. France wanted Germany broken up more than anyone
The US plundered Germany way more than anyone else, please google: -The Greatest Intellectual Property Theft in History by Larry Romanoff -The Great Patents Heist 1945 -T-Force - Wikipedia -Secrets by the Thousands -Operation Paperclip -Operation Lusty -etc...
It is. It's complete dogshit propaganda. Just look at Henry morgenthaus bio on wiki too. They credit "social security" as his biggest accomplishment. Social security has never worked and is bankrupt as fuck hahaha.
The germans are no different to the french, they didn’t start ww1 and I remember a time where the french where the counqerors of Europe. Nazism could’ve happened to any country providing the right conditions.
@@LOLERXP It is wrong to compare early years of the russian expansion to the whole work of napoleon on hitler. It is better to compare it to the early years of these two. So for example comparing Crimea to Anschluss, Eastern Ukraine to Western Czeckoslovakia etc. Putin is not finished yet.
@@derkurier2710 🤷. multicultural, tons of immigrants flee during wars. victors of the war takes resources and tech of defeated countries. sphere of influence is also a thing i. e. Americans with McDonalds, Swiss and their fancy watches, Russians and their vodka and communism. what do you want me to say about Americans, Rus and Euros? Belgian fries? Dutch antibiotics? American rebrandings, their wars and their jew made a-bomb? Brits language and their colonial exploits? Greek politics and philosophies? Italians in their pizza, their hairy women, their medieval history? French Sardines?
@@marcusiljitsch6176 The man who invented communism was a German Jew, as to which the men who sent Lenin to destabilize Russia were German aristocrats. Your views on other Europeans are nothing but bad faith arguments. The Kraut is a race of sore losers, ever since your unification you have continuously lost to the Anglosphere.
The Americans had graced the modern world with new inventions in both air and naval transport, innovations in regards to trains and cars unlike the world had ever seen. The Brits having such a powerhouse of a navy to a point where it ruled the waves for centuries. The French having had main domain over mainland Europe for centuries with amazing peaks in architecture and culture, Italians having achieved some of the greatest advancements in their ability as a race to both excel artistically and scientifically very well. The west has created many things of our own, we just simply didn’t like Krauts because your people were trying to challenge our hegemony.
The main reason as to why World War 2 happened at all was the way that the Allied powers left Germany in ruins and hamstrung (militarily and with war dept) at the end of World War 1. To my mind this plan would have had the same effect.
The war happened outside Germany, only some snowflake would call Germany ruins, where in France "the hell of the north" was ruined. Brest Litowsk is a more Prussian view of planning peace.
I believe it has to do with when Otto Von Habsburg met with Churchill in 1944 or 45 and proposed a restoration of Austria-Hungary under the restored Habsburg throne and Churchill was actually very supportive of it. Of course I’ve read in different sources that the restoration would include most of the former territories of the original empire, the borders in the video, and one that would include all of Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, northern Transylvania, and parts of Yugoslavia. Basically it was supposed to be a big buffer against the Soviets.
napoleon: perishing germans so germans get more national identity alies in ww1: giving germans treaty of versailles so they wanted to get revange alies in ww2 on that timeline: 3rd time is the charm
@Graf von Losinj I fully understand what is being said. It is a shortened version of the sentence "Then suddenly for no apparent reason Hitler was voted into power", insinuating that anything the Germans did was justified.
@@utzius8003 the germans wanted revenge hitler promised revenge so what the fuck do you expect to happen? they were angry as fuck because of a retarded treaty
@@utzius8003 If you see this you're no worse than the Nazis. I say this as someone who is trans and would have been killed for who I am by modern day neo-nazis btw
@@guilhermeborbabrito3664 "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy!" You sound like a Nazi yourself... or a communist... or a monarchist... or every authoritarian mass murderer throughout history.
Nazi Germany provided them a very welcome service of softening up their actual primary chosen enemy - Russia. As events ensuing right after WW2 made pretty clear. And now the Green Party is working on implementing Morgenthau Plan ideas.
The Germans did not start WWI, the Hapsburg Empire started WWI. Germany was allied with the Austrian-Hungarian Empire when they declared war on Serbia. Russia was allied with Serbia and immediately deployed troops along it's western border to invade Germany. So actually it was the Hapsburg's & Russia who started WWI, not Germany.
@@este6558 Yes, and the single most important reason, the actual cause of the start of the war was Russia mobilizing it's military along it's western border in preparation to invade Germany. Russia caused WWI in actuality. Just as Russia was partially responsible for WWII by signing the non-aggression pact with Germany and co-invading Poland. I always love how Russia is painted as the victim in WWII when they had a hand in starting it.
@@tedwojtasik8781 Allies couldn't picture their ally as the warmonger after defeating Third Reich. The history is written by winners. Also Germans in WW1 wanted to expand their naval empire, there were really a lot of reasons for different countries to participate in WW1
@@tedwojtasik8781 I wouldn't agree that germans started WW1. All the European powers wanted to fight themselves at that time,but WW2 was definitely started by Germans
In reading the comments here, I've noticed one idea expressed many times. Namely, what right do the victorious allied powers have to eviscerate Germany, when they themselves have been expansionist and aggressive powers at various points in history? This is a fair criticism. It's so easy to tell OTHER nations that they're not allowed to benefit from the same historical processes that your own nation exploited. It looks awfully convenient to decide that colonialism is a relic of bygone centuries, just as your own colonial empire is disintegrating. "It was okay when we did it, but nowadays colonialism and wars of aggression over land/resources are no longer allowed." It stings when the very countries laying out this new world order of what is or is not allowed, have only acquired such powerful positions by themselves exploiting the hell out of colonialism, resource wars, control of multinational organizations, etc. I'm not saying that I agree with this position, and honestly despite being a fair criticism it still rings of whataboutism to me. However, I definitely understand where they're coming from. Germany arrived on the world stage much later than did France or Britain. Arguably "Germany" as a concept or theoretical nation has never really 'arrived', given the exclusion of Austria which is such a large and influential part of "national consciousness" Germany relative to the political entity of the Federal Republic of Germany. Of course, this is all treading on some dangerous ground given the sordid history of other folks who felt Germany and Austria might properly be united. Hitler's anschluss (forcible incorporation of Austria into the Third Reich) was obviously not the right way of doing it. There may not (probably isn't?) even a right way. Austria was under allied occupation for a decade, and only in 1955 did they finally get back their political autonomy as a nation. Specifically within the Austrian State Treaty, founding document of modern day Republic of Austria there's a provision prohibiting any political union with Germany ever again. In addition, Europe, NATO, and other world powers only allowed the Federal Republic of Germany in Bonn (West Germany) to swallow up the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) in 1990 with the provision that Germany was banned from any future territorial expansion. From a cultural and historical standpoint however, one could argue that Germany is to this very day not a fully united country despite Bismarck's uniting most of it in the 1870's. The two big powers of the German-speaking world were always Prussia and Austria, and without them being part of the same federal country one could say Germany is not yet unified. It's literally an accurate statement that outside powers have organized this situation to prevent increased German unity and integration. I'm not taking a position on the rightness or wrongness of this, as I don't know enough about it. Whether we agree with any of them or not, it's worth understanding the motivations of the different players.
You could say the exact same for Japan who even expressed such sentiments as you did here. They arrived and rose to prominence much later (after being forced open by the U.S. at gunpoint no less, then realizing their powerlessness and then watching Europe pick apart China) and did (or tried) to do the same things that the other European powers did (as well as the USA), and believed they had every right to do the same thing they did and establish an empire with an expansionist policy. What they were doing only ever became a problem to the western powers when Japan declared war on America, up until then their activities were largely ignored if not tacitly approved of, with the only issue being Japan's activities potentially conflicting with Europe and American interests in the area, be it future plans or currently held interests.
@@RockSolitude The tragedies and progress of the 20th century very much boils down to the fact, that Germany and in part Japan arrived late to the imperialist party and thereby completely destabilized European "classic" imperialism, most likely for the better. France and the UK could not allow Germany to get stronger for the same reasons, Germany thought it had to become a colonial power despite its best self-interest. Good old social darwinism. The whole world order was based around superiority. It kinda had to come to all-out-war at some point. Japan's attack on the US by the way was only due to the US embargo. Japanese expansionism already became a problem, when they threatened to take western Asian colonies way before their war against the US. The oil embargo forced Japan to throw all their military might in one huge military strike by destroying the US pacific fleet and quickly seizing the colonies they were after, since their reserves only lasted for 2 years from that point onwards. Henceforth I'd say, Japanese expansionism became a problem for the west before the war against the US. Otherwise the US embargo and US sanctions before it do not make that much sense. Japanese relations with the west most likely started to become more and more strained after the Russo-Japanese war. All of a sudden the west was in shock, that a non-western power was able to win a war against one. Before that Japan has not been taken that seriously, which probably contributed a lot to western ignorance in their endeavours before 1906.
@@gabriel_swift8847 I was talking about the world order pre-WW1, which directly resulted in the origin tragedy of the 20th century called WW1. Social darwinism played a big role in that. WW2 is a whole different story.
FDR pushed the Morgenthau plan until his death. Eisenhower distributed 1000 copies of Morgenthau's book where he expanded on the plan. The JCS 1067 allowed for the Morgenthau plan but did not stipulate it, it required political will. Something that was present in Eisenhower and in FDR but not in Truman. A much more interesting question than "what if" is "how many Germans were starved to death because of US economic policy 1945 to july 1947?".
@@sebastianguevara3615 the allies killed anywhere from 9 to 11 million germans from mid 1945 to 1950. From 1945 to 1947 they raped 2.3 million german women. And created either 1.5 or 15 million refugees, I don't remember from memory but think it was the latter
What if Russia was colonized by the Mongol horde, who form a unique society after the fall of the Mongol Empire? How would the lack of European Russians impact the rest of history? Would Ukraine and Belarus become the centerpiece of Slavic civilization, or would they too be conquered?
The Nova renaissance lol if communists would have won the Cold War I doubt Germany would be full of Muslim people. That’s more of the liberal democracy of the westerner nations
Here are some video ideas What If NATO Was An Empire? What If The EU Was A Nation? What If The USSR Conquered Asia (Foundations of Geopolitics)? What If The US Became A Colonial Empire? What If Antarctica Was Colonized By The US and USSR During The Cold War? What If Argentina Joined The Axis Powers? What If The Soviet Union Was Capitalist and The US Was Communist? What If FDR Was Assassinated In 1933? What If American Liberia Formed An African Union/United States of Africa? What If The Madagascar Plan Succeeded? What If Israel Conquered The Middle East and The Arab World?
What if the United States was founded on the rejection of all things British following the war of Independence. Rejection of the English language, rejection of protestantism/christianity, rejection of British mercantilism, and had the Norse exploration/coloniztion of Greenland, Markland, Helluland, and Vinland as their foundational mythos. Also the implementation of an Anglish or Norse language.
Maybe Manifest Destiny wouldn't be a thing and the colonists would create a syncretic religion with deities from the Norse pantheon and deities from whatever Native American tribe they contact. English would almost certainly not be today's lingua franca, though.
How would this even occur? Since they were still British in ur war of independence? They get so anti British the tear out a common language and adopt a foreign language just to flip off the British one last time ? Imperial measurements are one thing but did they have large Scandinavian population? Who practiced such old faiths or language? Wouldn't the French language in honor of what the French did for them be a more logical choice than norse.
@ God are you a fuckin idiot? Stop commenting this shit. This literally would have upset our timeline and led to a Cold War possibly won by the Soviets. The German people did not deserve to be punished for WWII; Nazi Leadership did, and they were, even if it wasn't to the extent it should have been. You can't hate Germans, man, it's just as bad as people hating Jews.
The Nazis rose into power in the first place because Britain and France had imposed harsh terms on the Treaty of Versailles. If Kaiserreich says anything Germany would have never done the same had they won the Great War. The two World Wars were never about ideologies (e.g. fascism vs Communism vs democracy) but rather a mere extension of the conflicts revolving around the balance of powers in Europe that had started in the late Middle Ages. Britain and France were not so much as defending democratic values as maintaining their statues as Great Powers at the expense of Germany. Only that their victory in World War II made them so weak that they lost their respective colonial empires and status as major powers. The Cold War ushered in a new era where geopolitics has moved its focus away from Europe into the United States and the Soviet Union, both located at the peripheries of the continent.
Thank god for the marshall plan! my grandfather was a talented mechanik before WW2 but had to serve as a soldier / Truck driver on the east front. He came back traumatized and depressed, which affected my father as well, and so in some sense me too. The first half of the 20th Century was the greatest catastrophe, shall this errors never be made again by humans!
Ach, this video caused me great pain to even watch. To see the Gerat Germany suffer like this.... it hurts the German blood that runs through my American body. I am glad this plan never came to fruition, but I also wish history had not turned so against the German in the first place.
@ I apologize for the poorly worded analogy. I instead am referring to a wish that the German Empire had won the first World War, as it would have generated a (at least slightly) better world than what we have today.
@@MemeatorMotivatoroftheMemes It could have been better it could have been worse. Equally, an Entente victory could have ended up better or worse. Either way could have lead to a nuclear war which I think we can all agree is the actual worst timeline. Its stupid to say a Central Powers victory would lead to a better world because there are so many variables.
James Legrand They couldn't have held back the USSR. The only reason ww3 didn't start is Stalin didn't quite feel like starting a massive war. It wasn't until the US built enough nuclear bombs that they were seriously threatened. There were plans to treat France as an axis member which the US supported and Britain did until they realized it would make them the main protector of europe.
It doesn’t matter what you do to the German people. We’ve been through every political oppression and depression. In the end the Germany will always come up top. Weren’t it for our liberal social politics. We would play a Way more powerful role.
@@amadiohastruck4331 paying for country infrastructure doesn’t make them our territory it only makes them dependent on our economy thus working for us.
austria used to be austria-hungary and hitler served for germany in the first world war. germany was an ally of austria. austro fascism and national socialism are pretty much the same and most austrians wanted to be a part of germany becaus austria itself is/used to be a tiny place full of little villages no one heard about and has like relevant cities. and obviously, austrians speak german either way and wanted to be part of something bigger. nowadays, austria is independent again but who knows for how long...
I am aware that you never asked but I think it might be interesting to do a video about if germany never declared war on soviet russia. Love the video by the way.
Soviet Russia was preparing to invade Germany in 1941 or the following years, so it would turn out into a defensive war for Germany. I am curious how would the warfare in Africa turn out in this scenario.
1:00 That's kind of hilarious coming from an American of all people with (by his last name) obvious German ancestry. Also hilarious how the turn tables since nowadays Germany has redirected its supposed lust for expansion into creating and maintaining the European Union, arguably the biggest and longest lasting peace project in history while the US has been at war for most of its history and if we look at Asia and the Middle East could very well be considered a perennial disturber of world peace (if such a thing every actually existed in the first place).
"the European Union, arguably the biggest and longest lasting peace project in history" That's such propagandist bullshit. The EU is not, never was, and never will be a "peace project". If anything, the NATO was one for Western Europe, and the cold war brought the Western European countries together.
@@elgoog-the-third And here's someone with no clue what they are about... Maybe you should have looked into the EU's history a bit before making a fool of yourself.
Napoleon is celebrated as a hero of the "revolution" slaugtering untrained and barely armed civilians with cannons and soon after conquering all of Europe.
Allies win ww1: let's humiliate germany and break it up! Allies win ww2: let's humiliate and break it up! Allies win ww3: let's humiliate and break it up! Allies win ww4: let's humiliate and break it up! Ad infinitum
Allies: "We have to dismantle Germany, the whole existence of this country is dangerous to the world!" also the Allies: *creates an independent Polish state*
You might be surprised, but the independent Polish Nation State has been givent o the Polish people by Kaiser Wilhelm II, after the German Reich defeated Russia in 1917 (Peace agreement of Brest Litovsk) The Reich did NOT keep the lands it conquered from Russia but gave it to the Poles, so they could establish their Nationstate. That's how bad the Kaiser and the Germans were.😂
the thing is the last year of the war would have been very diffrent if the Morgenthau plan had been kept. Once it was gotten rid of the Germans in the west all but surrendered allowing the western allies to sweep east as fast as they could drive, but with the morgenthau plan still in effect that would not have happened and the Germans would have reissted the western allies as stiffly as they did the soviets resulting in the soviets occupation reaching much further west My guess is there wouldn't have been a middle Germany, the soviets would have left so little to the allies that there would essentially only have been the international zone and perhaps a small south Germany.
WW2 made no sense from a British standpoint. What did we achieve? Germany, who during WW2 had zero intention to fight us or our empire, fell apart. We didn't guarantee polish independence, and fought for a country that caused far more deaths (USSR), lost our empire, went into debt and USA replaced our position as world power. And yet we celebrated it? We should've stayed neutral.
You ignoring all the other treaties? They had? The fear they had of German lead world? We celebrate the destruction of Nazism and freedom and liberation of states who were deeply oppressed by the nazi ideals. We celebrate the scarifice. It makes me sad u think the thing we honor and celebrate in the end of WW2 is USA becoming the global market cause of land lease n cash n carry
The United Kingdom had been following the same policy of avoiding hegemonic powers in Continental Europe for centuries. As much as Hitler did not want war with Britain, the Nazi delirium of building an empire that would reach the Volga, cleaning up the entire population that was in the middle, could not materialize in any way.
I saw this book in 1973 while visiting my grandfather. The author was a raving lunatic with bigotry only at the level of the Nazis, which where defeated only 3 decades earlier. Napoleon was correct ; history is always written by the victors and is set of lies agreed upon.
@@Exodon2020 - Is that a real problem, because I had read the plan myself, the person behind it, and I really believe that they had a legitimate reason for those thoughts.
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The Treaty of Versailles already showed what can happen if you try to punish the loser of a war beyond all reason. The effect of this stupid plan would've been even worse.
The treaty of Versailles was a failure because it let Germany and Austria survive. The Germans couldn't have fought back if they were culturally and genetically erased.
@@Ilyiasynit's just the true man, the treaty of Versailles wasn't harsh enough to Germany (thanks to UK and USA) and that's why it led to WWII I'm not saying that Germany and Austria must be culturally and genetically erased through
Meanwhile the Kommenthau Plan is set in motion and a war breaks out in the comment section... Imma sit here in the western hemisphere and watch the fireworks.
It's like Voltaire said of the Holy Roman Empire- It's NOT holy. It's NOT Roman. And it's NOT an empire. But apart from that, the name is totally accurate! I was discussing Voltaire's views on the Holy Roman Empire just the other day, with a fellow just regular everyday American. And she looked at me like I was the one being weird! I don't get it...
These comments greatly disturbed me… it shows a large amount of comments focusing on Kaufman being Jewish, and just genuinely seem to be from extremely hateful people.
Dude you're not responsible for every supervillain who happens to be Jewish. I'm sure you're not getting a 10K check every month from the Rotschchilds lmaoooo. Jews tend to be educated and couldn't own land back in the day in Europe but were encouraged by kings to do banking so they could charge interest without the king technically doing it. So there's powerful people for generations from those families. Some of them became corrupt with power. There's bad apples everywhere. Our current oligarch overlords Bezos and Musk are NOT Jewish. I wish the painter guy had had the nuance to separate powerful rich corporate families mentally from normal people. TBH I think a huge portion of Germans are part Ashkenazi. Anyway I went on a tangent but I know it sucks to just be living your life and see irrational racism
Germany was never more expansionist nor war like than any of the other european empires. The difference was they were so effective at war that it took the rest of the world to stop them in both world wars.
Germany owning 0,4% of the world:
Britain owning 25% of the world: GeRmaNs aRe tOtAL WaRmOngEreRs
XD
Simplified Crypto ♥️
Simplified Crypto well Germany also had a relativ big colonial empire
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Well Churchill continued exporting wheat from India to Great Britain whilst there was a famine, that alone killed around 4 million Bengalis in 1943.
„Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”“
www.google.de/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html%3famp
Yes Churchill was really a nice guy ;-)
Just because a few minorities died here and there that doesn’t mean you can’t be proud of of your countries achievements.
Too many people are trying to make us hate our own empires yet ignoring the fact that we did more good than bad.
For example, you wouldn’t be using the internet if it weren’t for us.
I'm not even German , and I'm piss off about this.
@ are you anti German?
@@Will9c Hes probably an anti-semite pretending to be jewish to rile people up against jews.
@@vector9511 No, he's a leftist anti white
@WW1 German Stormtrooper He called him an idiot, which very heavily implies that he thinks that thinking that this is a horrible plan make one an idiot.
As a Bavarian, i am not
"We have to dismatle germany, the whole existence of theses country is dangerous for our might!"
Churchill Switches rivals
"We need a capable Germany to Deal with the new dangerous enemy!"
Just as a Thommy do.
MatzeMania90 what’s a thommy
@Pishposh Magoo Not only have you miss labelled the British Royal house but you managed to misspell Habsburg as well
@@sorcererberoll4641 Nickname for the English
that's what makes a succesful politician, i guess. churchill himself wasn't especially free of antisemitic tendencies either. i mean, who really was at that time in europe? it was never about saving the jews or the german opposition, it was mostly an imperialistic war. after all, it was the red army that freed ausschwitz (obviously due to the western/eastern front complex) and germans like schindler who saved a lot of lives. communists, socialists and other leftists also already were good enough to fight nazis but when they tried to impose their economical system, they suddenly become the new enemy of the west. and still to this day, people who righfully claimed that communism always failed. but they never make the argument that the west/anti-communists might just be better at winning wars.
@@yoshikatsumi
You forgot that the Red Army continued to use Auschwitz to detain the Polish dissidents and that the Soviets were initially allied with Hitler in partitionin orgot that left wingers oppossed the war in the Western countries until Soviet Russia was attacked.
Plus the fact that Germans elected Hitler because they (rightfully) feared that the Communists would storm in and destroy their way of life(which they successfully did in Russia) and the fact that Fascism and Nazism were rooted in NAtional Syndicalism
You leftists are the literal scum of the Earth
War like?
Britain has entered the room
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France has entered the chat.
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40% would not survive? That’s horrifying
@@CanonOverseer sounds like Germans had a point when it came to the tribe.
@@scutumfidelis1436 Everyone had a point. If you are to look at European history, a very bleak light is cast upon them. Imagine living for many generations and leeching off nations, never to fit in, only following the purpose of your kin and not of the host nation. I am glad they founded their nation, they all belong there.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Its not even their nation according to the bible the name Israel is actually a blasphemous statement as well as the name holocaust.
For Christians Jesus was the final holocaust.
Go away antisemites!
they sowed the wind and now they will reap the whirlwind
i cant even imagine the consequences of this. the amount of anger in the german populace would be cataclysmic...
Germany would turn into Communist or Fascist state
@@jankupka9106 3rd times the charm as they say
@@jankupka9106 Doubtful. The Germans wouldn't be able to make a state. You would of saw the return of the Germanic. They would of been forced into a state that makes them like Caesar's time.
I wonder what anger felt the victims of the two world wars they have waged...
They start the war - then they cry they've lost it.
@Sinan Royal
And even that is debatable.... 1/3 of the Germans had elected this Austrian who, after the suffering and humiliation caused by the Versailles Treaty, went too far even for some important Allied politicians. The final nail in the coffin was the stock market crash that set Germany back completely, including famine. This gave strong support to the left and right wings.
And the Polish campaign was only supported by a part of the population, and only after propaganda that spoke of Polish crimes against Germans. However, even Göring and a few others were against this campaign, because they did not want a war (with GB). But the Austrian, Goebbels and a few others were keen to invade Poland....
Morgenthau envisaged a similar approach as after WW2, which would have definitely radicalised Germany again and certainly communist. The more intelligent politicians also noticed this immediately, and also that Morgenthau was not concerned with peace but with revenge. While serious politicians wanted Germany to be a helpful partner and outpost against the Soviet Union.
It is clear anyway that Germany was not to blame for the First World War, nor did it start it. Practically everyone wanted war because of nationalism, communism, imperialism, jealousy and their own supposed strength thanks to industrialisation on a large scale. And if the war hadn't started that way, it would have started sooner or later because of something else... unlike World War 2, the first one was inevitable.
The German Question? Didn't Rome have to deal with that?
I think you might have that backwards.
Dovahhatty would like to know your location
@Brett Kozlak Germani.
@@redjirachi1 hehehehe
@Brett Kozlak "those they couldn't beat" I literally burst out laughing, feel bad if you really think that
How about the ww1 French plan to split Germany up like Austria Hungary
That's what kept me from titling this "What If Germany Was Broken Up?" because I may want to cover that another time.
@@MonsieurDean That's going to be good!
Monsieur Z
Germany couldn’t have been broken up after WW1 as its army had only been beaten to a stalemate. They only relented because of the fresh American troops boosting the entente forces. The entente didn’t have the will, manpower, or resources to push through into Germany and occupy it. If they managed to somehow do that, they’d likely go for capturing and trying the Kaiser (unjustly) as a war criminal. The French wanted him executed. This would cause a mass uproar in Germany and there would be more riots and partisans style resistance. Germany might go Communist with the Spartacists gaining traction. The French Army might mutiny after being forced to fight after facing such stiff resistance.
@@justinpachi3707 No, the Germans surrendered mainly because of mutiny, strikes, and communist/socialist insurrections.
@@justinpachi3707 An independent Rhineland, an independent Bavaria, a French Sarre and a Danish Schleswig would have been a formality. I am less familiar with the east, but a bigger Poland and Lithuania could have been pushed in the peace treaty. Germany would have to agree to this terms or face an economical and military collapse that would greatly benefit its enemies in the long term (balance of power).
Bavarians took their independence on their own for a few weeks in 1919, with international support the birth of a stable south-german independant Bavaria would be in the realm of possibilities. In our timeline the demilitarisation and foreign occupation of the Rhineland was critical to France, if not for the Wilsonian ideals the french governement would have supported the independence of Rhineland with all its might (small war reparation, trade, etc). Finally, for the Sarre and Schleswig annexations, it could have gone smoothly because of big Francophone and Danish minorities.
One should note that if the Wilsonians ideals were not applied, Italy wouldn't have experienced its "mutilated victory" (Italy would have been given more Austrian lands), avoiding the birth of fascism.
having the totally german originated name "Kaufman": GeRmaNy iS eViL
Not a german, but a jewman.
@@arthurfrb6165 No Matter, the name's still German
Tanya von Degurechaff He was a descendant of German Jews
Its a fake name without heritage.
Or Austrian, or Swiss.
The main problem was: After the unification of 1871, Germany was too strong for many European countries, who therefore fancied the idea to reduce Germany back to the fragmented patchwork it was during the 1000 years of the Holy Roman Empire. Thus, the Germans would fight themselves and play no role in global politics.
Some politician once said that the tragedy of Germany is that she is to strong to not try dominate Europe but not strong enough to actually pull it off.
We see that again in our time. Doesn't matter if we want it or not, German economic power rules the EU.
The main problem was: before 1871 France was too stong for many European countries. European history from 1648 to 1871 can be summarised as: how to avoid French dominance over Europe. Only after WW2 balance was achieved, hence the reluctance of some European leaders to accept the German reunification.
@F.W. I fully recognize your argument and agree completely. That being said, I would like to see China in another Waring States Period, if for no other reason than it would put China in a place not to dissimilar to Russia Post-Soviet Collapse. That and it would be funny.
Germany, too strong to be an equal, but too weak to rule.
Edit: Oh wait, lmao, Sebastian already sayd the same thing. :)
@@evilmurlock Reminds me of Russia nowadays...
“Germany must be dissolved because of all the devastation it has caused!”
USSR and Middle East: “Boi, you ain’t seen nothin yet...”
thsi would have been a clear message to other regimes like korea.
USA: *silent laughing in the background*
meanwhile britain and france had conquered most of the world earlier on and still controlling most of it
what
@@freddym99 i guess the most ironic part of this is that at the time they were trying their best to brutally suppress all the independence movements all over their colonial empires
Germany:
Fights against Soviets.
Allies:
Fight against Germany and refuse ro make peace unless it's an uncoditional surrender.
Allies after 1945:
What is this big red blob on the map?
Hmmmmmmmm interresting
How many lives would have been spared, with the war ending shortly after the Normandy Invasion?
That's the truth.. imagine if they would of made a deal with Rudolf Hess to take out Hitler. War could of been avoided.
The Allies AND Nazis didn’t want to surrender. The Allies didn’t want the Nazis still in charge and Hitler never surrendered .
@@alexanderzippel8809 Ok, so both sides share some (I didn’t say: “equal”) blame. I never disagreed with that postulate.
I’m just saying a lot of people died in 1945; and maybe there is a lesson for all of us. The war’s outcome was unstoppable by Fall, 1944. It just would have been nice to save millions of lives if we could have had the Allies not look like they were drafting early versions of: “Versailles 2.0; and this time we REALLY make the Germans suffer forever”!
I'm Anglo and I'm sad about this. I hate how Germany was abused throughout history and made out to be the villain. Villain? More like a product of the allies and ententes games.. They wanted honor and respect.
I honestly can't watch anymore of this because its just sick.
How was killing millions of innocent jews honourable
@@taventube2151
There is more than history than the world wars
@ its not modern day germans that dealt with the that they are practically different people than what they were in the 1900s countries commited war atrocities it isn't right but holding grudges towards people is ignorant and doesn't solve problems
@ You don't have to consider anything.
@ u seem to have a problem with German's. Iv seen you in several comments on this video
Balkanized Germany... So basically Kaiserreich when you play as anybody thats not Germany.
Electra_HR “and win”
... so brother I’m not god
Worra surprisingly there are a good amount of people who’ve done it and won. For some reason I’ve noticed it’s easier to push the Soviets back, but not the French....
@@rnrailproductions5049 The French are like Russia except they have More industry, forts and less manpower
This is just a second Versailles, this is the stupidest plan I have ever heard.
Versailles actually REALLY messed Hungary up, Hungary lost 65% of it's population due to the treaty
Hungary's treaty wasn't Versailles it was Trianon.
more like Brest-Litovsk. Brest-Litovsk created even more states out of Russia than Versailles did with Germany.
Ethnic cleansing of Germans from their historic lands in Poland and Czech Republic was as harsh as the war started by them. Two wrongs don’t make it right.
Historic? Don't get me wrong ethnic cleansing is bad, but no one culture owns a particular piece of land.
I know and it's unfair to them, also germans are very nice people with great culture and language and I am very interested in it even though I am a palestinian
@@lazarous2772 Mhh yes totally true.
In fact ethnic cleansing in Poland was much more lenient than in Czechoslovakia where Czechs murdered approx. 30000 Germans (by for example burning alive german civilians). In comparison in Poland died only few hundred Germans.
The carpet bombing of German civilians and refugees in 45 done quite a bit of that.
Germany must Perish?! Is this guy insane?!
He's one of the tribe. Of course he is
@@explodingheads1116 What exactly is 'the tribe'?
@@sebping7205 Exactly. I 100% agree. Also are you are Monarchist, republican nationalist, or fascist?
@@indranilbose9454 I think my comment was deleted, or something. So I am not going to say 'the word'.
But I would rather describe myself as the last one, but not fully.
And thank you :)
@@henryopitz3254 Sure he was an asshole, but that has nothing to do with judaism. All the Nazis were mainly catholic, who blames the catholics for the Holocaust? Most Britains are protestant, who blames the protestants for the massmurder in the boor wars ? My greatuncle got an iron cross for bravery , he fought for Germany as an officer in WWI and ? He was jewish.....
This guy was British and he blamed the Germans for imperialism? Talk about hypocrisy
He was Jewish
@@Sku291 no wonder Germans didn’t like him or his kind, they wanted to get rid of Germany as It was. Kaufman was a loser
"British"
"Morgenthau"
*Was he really?*
@@Sku291 " hey fellow white people" 👃
1:53
Roosevelt’s plan is intriguing. The return of Prussia and other German states. Please make a video on if this happened.
It was his idea to dissolve Prussia in the first place though.
His idea of having Hungary in the south German state is absolute insane and frankly a restoration of Prussia contradicts the generally accepted idea that German militarism comes from Prussia
@@zeplyn-r6 well that's Churchills plan not fdrs
@@zeplyn-r6 The "generally accepted idea that German militarism comes from Prussia" really doesn't hold any water anymore after the first world war.
@@elgoog-the-third After a year of personal growth since I said that: you are absolutely right. That being said, Churchill's plan made absolutely zero fucking sense at all.
"Hey guys, you know how we screwed over Germany once already after the first Great War?"
"Yeah? What about it?"
"Well, since it didn't work the first time, how about we do it again, but HARSHER this time. I think we went to easy on them the first go around. Maybe if we split them up into more states and completely destroy their way of life, they'll become docile and never start a war again."
"That sound... FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC! Let's do it! What could go wrong?"
"Right? It sounds like a good plan to me!"
Thinking that the treaty of Versailles was very-harsh is an over simplification. It was too harsh to form a stable relationship with Germany, sure... but it was far from what was initially planed : splitting Germany to break its unity and bring peace to Europe once and for all.
It would have been easier to implement back then: both Bavaria and Rhineland were having separatist movements, Denmark had strong claims over the Schleswig-Holstein and the borders in the east were far from fixed. Germany basically owns it unity to the USA and the Wilsonian doctrine of the Fourteen Points.
Basically, the treaty of Versailles was very bad since it punished Germany too much to have it as an ally, while was not harsh enough to destroy the German war machine.
I agree with both of you
@@JVPierre142 the harsh part was the dept they put on them making it impossible for germany to actually function for 20 years
@@JVPierre142 I don't think you realize what kind of economic demands that treaty enforced on Germany. The reparations as written would've taken 92 years to pay off. In other words till 2010. Two generations that weren't even alive during WWI would've been paying for that. Additionally France was confiscating machinery as part of the reparations stifling the german economy so they couldn't pay the debt. Which France took as a reason to confiscate more machinery effectively driving Germany into an economic downward spiral. The reason Hitler was able to revitalize the economy when the previous government couldn't was because he just ignored all the sanctions that the Weimar Republic abided by.
The Germans got lucky, they were not Screwed over, what a joke. Try reading history in an unbiased way. The Russians sent an army into Germany, yet Germany sent 90% of the troops into France, unprovvoked. This was a choice
The Germans were lucky that Lloyd George and Woodrow Wilson, were more lenient , than Clemenceau. The French presidennt, if you had his way, probably would have ended Germany completely
What tthe German elites put the French people through (in particuular), in the space of 40 years, was utterly diabolical
Jesus this sounds like a 'final solution' for Germans. Honestly lost a lot of respect for FDR and Churchill knowing they supported this shit.
Truman did, as well
@@daikolirae155 That's disappointing to me as a Missourian. I've always had a soft spot for him and respected his resolve in the bombings of Horishima and Nagasaki.
@@Guardias wait til you find out they were completely unnecessary and Japan was gonna surrender anyway, cause they literally couldnt carry on, they were starving and the soviets entering the war was the final nail, not the bombs
@eyzmin wait till they hear about Dresden
@@eyzmin exactly the bombs were nothing than a show of power to the Soviets as the "Cold War" with them was already on.
Why do I have a feeling Kaufman was a member of the tribe
You are correct
Without a doubt
He was
@ The Jews have always hated Germany. Wtf do you think?
@ Yeah its just a "religion" right
Wow Mr. Kaufman sure is mean, wonder what nationality his surname comes from?
He was _blueish_ obviously
@Homo Rudolfensis Fellow "German". Did they really remove my triple parentheses or can I just not see it?
+Boots Jew
Last time I checked, "Jewish" is not a race. Its an ethnoreligious identity.
Oy Vey
@ last time I checked, Israel is a racist state made by Jewish supremacists
I'm not even european but this has me in a state of pure rage.
Like the allies just found out about the holocaust and for punishment they decide to use similar methods on the Germans. Yeah, totally the "good guys"!
@@Sku291 Fantastic, another nazi
@nationalhjälte idiot
@@Sku291 No. One might not. Fuck off, nazi.
Nationalhjälte Red Cross says 200,000
@@DrDoom-yf2qj You?
"We must destroy Germany!"
**Also hires large amount of German scientists and engineers after the war**
The Soviets seem to have changed their minds fairly quickly about whether to loot their occupation zone in eastern Germany as payment of reparations, in our own world. Initially after the war they hauled out a lot of valuables, and especially industrial equipment and anything related to military and scientific research, of course. Complete factories (or what remained of them, at least) were dismantled and hauled out of the ruins of Dresden and Berlin to have those production lines reassembled with the machinery and operated in Russia or Ukraine.
When Stalin saw the west take the opposite tack, and plow massive resources INTO their occupation zones via the Marshall Plan and other aid, rather than hauling wealth OUT, they must have realized they needed to invest in their zone (soon to become the DDR) if it was to have any hope of survival as a satellite state in economic or military terms. The Soviets could not allow any more of a disparity in living conditions between their zone and the western occupation zones than the already widening gap that was NOT in their favor.
The desire for revenge, and economic need for loot of all kinds is completely understandable post-war. But sometimes you win by helping to rebuild your former adversary, rather than focusing on crushing them as punishment. To some degree, that was the lesson the world learned after Germany's arguably overly harsh treatment post-WWI. It's not about "letting them get away with it." It's about creating conditions for a nation to rebuild. And, spoiler alert, if you treat them well you can have a HUGE influence on shaping their new culture and state.
With massive investment both by the west and the Soviets into their respective zones, West Germany became one of the world's largest economies fairly quickly. The DDR became the showpiece economy of the socialist world, with a significantly higher standard of living than most of the eastern bloc. Germany's highly educated and motivated workforce, and scientific/industrial capacity is a huge asset to anyone, especially to the German people.
FN went to Germany to get some of their factory back, it helped to rebuild the brand
I don't think so, the consequences of the de-industrialization by the Soviets are seen to this day.
The Brits and US didn't, but France did, just like the Soviets. France did everything in their power to block anything the US and Britain did to try and rebuild or help Germany. France wanted Germany broken up more than anyone
The US plundered Germany way more than anyone else, please google:
-The Greatest Intellectual Property Theft in History by Larry Romanoff
-The Great Patents Heist 1945
-T-Force - Wikipedia
-Secrets by the Thousands
-Operation Paperclip
-Operation Lusty
-etc...
@@23GreyFoxyeah but in comparison to the rest of the ussr the were the best for average citizens.
Kaufman you say? Bet his "Early life" section on Wikipedia is interesting
oy vey
It is. It's complete dogshit propaganda. Just look at Henry morgenthaus bio on wiki too. They credit "social security" as his biggest accomplishment. Social security has never worked and is bankrupt as fuck hahaha.
Koffmen *blue*
Mark A. Until they ban all words then I would be happy
huh it echoed
The germans are no different to the french, they didn’t start ww1 and I remember a time where the french where the counqerors of Europe. Nazism could’ve happened to any country providing the right conditions.
1800s: France is the conquering nation in Europe
1900s: Germany is the conquering nation in Europe
2000s: Russia is the conquering nation in Europe
@@jwil4286 Russia is highly overrated.
@@jwil4286 Lmao imagine comparing 2000s Russia to Napoleon and Hitler. What do you dream _at night?_
@@LOLERXP It is wrong to compare early years of the russian expansion to the whole work of napoleon on hitler. It is better to compare it to the early years of these two. So for example comparing Crimea to Anschluss, Eastern Ukraine to Western Czeckoslovakia etc. Putin is not finished yet.
Germany did start WWI and denying it is exactly what led to WW2
Germans and Germany made so many great things. People who hate Germans and Germany are just people who couldn't make anything by their own.
So the US and Russians and the rest of europe by this point?
@@derkurier2710 🤷. multicultural, tons of immigrants flee during wars. victors of the war takes resources and tech of defeated countries. sphere of influence is also a thing i. e. Americans with McDonalds, Swiss and their fancy watches, Russians and their vodka and communism.
what do you want me to say about Americans, Rus and Euros? Belgian fries? Dutch antibiotics? American rebrandings, their wars and their jew made a-bomb? Brits language and their colonial exploits? Greek politics and philosophies? Italians in their pizza, their hairy women, their medieval history? French Sardines?
Exactly
@@marcusiljitsch6176 The man who invented communism was a German Jew, as to which the men who sent Lenin to destabilize Russia were German aristocrats. Your views on other Europeans are nothing but bad faith arguments. The Kraut is a race of sore losers, ever since your unification you have continuously lost to the Anglosphere.
The Americans had graced the modern world with new inventions in both air and naval transport, innovations in regards to trains and cars unlike the world had ever seen. The Brits having such a powerhouse of a navy to a point where it ruled the waves for centuries. The French having had main domain over mainland Europe for centuries with amazing peaks in architecture and culture, Italians having achieved some of the greatest advancements in their ability as a race to both excel artistically and scientifically very well. The west has created many things of our own, we just simply didn’t like Krauts because your people were trying to challenge our hegemony.
The main reason as to why World War 2 happened at all was the way that the Allied powers left Germany in ruins and hamstrung (militarily and with war dept) at the end of World War 1. To my mind this plan would have had the same effect.
The war happened outside Germany, only some snowflake would call Germany ruins, where in France "the hell of the north" was ruined. Brest Litowsk is a more Prussian view of planning peace.
Yeah they should change the title to. How to make extreme ideas
Except this time, Germany would be even *more* rage-filled!
Wait why was Hungary included in the South German state 1:51 ?
David Henry Churchill was probably drunk when drew it.
@@toasterdogg when was Churchill not drunk?
Cause the south German state was *hungary* for land
Churchill didn't want Soviets to dominate Hungary
I believe it has to do with when Otto Von Habsburg met with Churchill in 1944 or 45 and proposed a restoration of Austria-Hungary under the restored Habsburg throne and Churchill was actually very supportive of it. Of course I’ve read in different sources that the restoration would include most of the former territories of the original empire, the borders in the video, and one that would include all of Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, northern Transylvania, and parts of Yugoslavia. Basically it was supposed to be a big buffer against the Soviets.
napoleon: perishing germans so germans get more national identity
alies in ww1: giving germans treaty of versailles so they wanted to get revange
alies in ww2 on that timeline: 3rd time is the charm
It was the chews who wanted to punish Germany, not really the allies.
Napoleon didn't want to perish Germans.
More like bring back frankish empire
@@stevencooper4422 who is chewing on germany?
@@taureon_ not Cannibals. but the Tribes
Kaufman wanted to erase Germany ?? How Jewish of him lol
Every time I watch your videos I have more and more faith that you’re secretly totally based and just playing along with youtube TOS. Good video
Lol
you should read his book. All that I'll say is that he is VERY based.
Boots Jew lots of closet fascists watch his vids
@@lamentobtv01 Send me link of his book never heard of this guy.
@ Of course a jew would be offended.
"Then suddenly for no apparent reason"
@@utzius8003 which came first, the semite or the antisemitism?
@Graf von Losinj I fully understand what is being said. It is a shortened version of the sentence "Then suddenly for no apparent reason Hitler was voted into power", insinuating that anything the Germans did was justified.
@@utzius8003 and you want to exterminate them for their mistake
@@utzius8003 the germans wanted revenge
hitler promised revenge
so what the fuck do you expect to happen?
they were angry as fuck because of a retarded treaty
@@utzius8003
If you see this you're no worse than the Nazis. I say this as someone who is trans and would have been killed for who I am by modern day neo-nazis btw
What if Luxembourg annexed Mongolia?
What
Thats why ther collapsed.
Hasn't that already happened?
What if the Azteks colonized Europe?
@@JackoBanon1 Sunset Invasion moment
Starting to think the allies were the true monsters
You can only think that If you support the nazis
@@guilhermeborbabrito3664 "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy!"
You sound like a Nazi yourself... or a communist... or a monarchist... or every authoritarian mass murderer throughout history.
I'm starting to think that as well.
That's because they are
Nazi Germany provided them a very welcome service of softening up their actual primary chosen enemy - Russia. As events ensuing right after WW2 made pretty clear.
And now the Green Party is working on implementing Morgenthau Plan ideas.
The Germans did not start WWI, the Hapsburg Empire started WWI. Germany was allied with the Austrian-Hungarian Empire when they declared war on Serbia. Russia was allied with Serbia and immediately deployed troops along it's western border to invade Germany. So actually it was the Hapsburg's & Russia who started WWI, not Germany.
Habsburg prince death was only a little spark to a blackpowder barell
There were many more important reasons
@@este6558 Yes, and the single most important reason, the actual cause of the start of the war was Russia mobilizing it's military along it's western border in preparation to invade Germany. Russia caused WWI in actuality. Just as Russia was partially responsible for WWII by signing the non-aggression pact with Germany and co-invading Poland. I always love how Russia is painted as the victim in WWII when they had a hand in starting it.
@@tedwojtasik8781 Allies couldn't picture their ally as the warmonger after defeating Third Reich. The history is written by winners. Also Germans in WW1 wanted to expand their naval empire, there were really a lot of reasons for different countries to participate in WW1
@@tedwojtasik8781 I wouldn't agree that germans started WW1. All the European powers wanted to fight themselves at that time,but WW2 was definitely started by Germans
Germany also issued the Hapsburgs a "blank check" of support in whatever they chose to do. Germany prodded them into war.
In reading the comments here, I've noticed one idea expressed many times. Namely, what right do the victorious allied powers have to eviscerate Germany, when they themselves have been expansionist and aggressive powers at various points in history? This is a fair criticism. It's so easy to tell OTHER nations that they're not allowed to benefit from the same historical processes that your own nation exploited. It looks awfully convenient to decide that colonialism is a relic of bygone centuries, just as your own colonial empire is disintegrating. "It was okay when we did it, but nowadays colonialism and wars of aggression over land/resources are no longer allowed." It stings when the very countries laying out this new world order of what is or is not allowed, have only acquired such powerful positions by themselves exploiting the hell out of colonialism, resource wars, control of multinational organizations, etc. I'm not saying that I agree with this position, and honestly despite being a fair criticism it still rings of whataboutism to me. However, I definitely understand where they're coming from.
Germany arrived on the world stage much later than did France or Britain. Arguably "Germany" as a concept or theoretical nation has never really 'arrived', given the exclusion of Austria which is such a large and influential part of "national consciousness" Germany relative to the political entity of the Federal Republic of Germany. Of course, this is all treading on some dangerous ground given the sordid history of other folks who felt Germany and Austria might properly be united. Hitler's anschluss (forcible incorporation of Austria into the Third Reich) was obviously not the right way of doing it. There may not (probably isn't?) even a right way.
Austria was under allied occupation for a decade, and only in 1955 did they finally get back their political autonomy as a nation. Specifically within the Austrian State Treaty, founding document of modern day Republic of Austria there's a provision prohibiting any political union with Germany ever again. In addition, Europe, NATO, and other world powers only allowed the Federal Republic of Germany in Bonn (West Germany) to swallow up the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) in 1990 with the provision that Germany was banned from any future territorial expansion. From a cultural and historical standpoint however, one could argue that Germany is to this very day not a fully united country despite Bismarck's uniting most of it in the 1870's. The two big powers of the German-speaking world were always Prussia and Austria, and without them being part of the same federal country one could say Germany is not yet unified. It's literally an accurate statement that outside powers have organized this situation to prevent increased German unity and integration. I'm not taking a position on the rightness or wrongness of this, as I don't know enough about it. Whether we agree with any of them or not, it's worth understanding the motivations of the different players.
You could say the exact same for Japan who even expressed such sentiments as you did here. They arrived and rose to prominence much later (after being forced open by the U.S. at gunpoint no less, then realizing their powerlessness and then watching Europe pick apart China) and did (or tried) to do the same things that the other European powers did (as well as the USA), and believed they had every right to do the same thing they did and establish an empire with an expansionist policy. What they were doing only ever became a problem to the western powers when Japan declared war on America, up until then their activities were largely ignored if not tacitly approved of, with the only issue being Japan's activities potentially conflicting with Europe and American interests in the area, be it future plans or currently held interests.
@@RockSolitude The tragedies and progress of the 20th century very much boils down to the fact, that Germany and in part Japan arrived late to the imperialist party and thereby completely destabilized European "classic" imperialism, most likely for the better. France and the UK could not allow Germany to get stronger for the same reasons, Germany thought it had to become a colonial power despite its best self-interest. Good old social darwinism. The whole world order was based around superiority. It kinda had to come to all-out-war at some point. Japan's attack on the US by the way was only due to the US embargo. Japanese expansionism already became a problem, when they threatened to take western Asian colonies way before their war against the US. The oil embargo forced Japan to throw all their military might in one huge military strike by destroying the US pacific fleet and quickly seizing the colonies they were after, since their reserves only lasted for 2 years from that point onwards. Henceforth I'd say, Japanese expansionism became a problem for the west before the war against the US. Otherwise the US embargo and US sanctions before it do not make that much sense. Japanese relations with the west most likely started to become more and more strained after the Russo-Japanese war. All of a sudden the west was in shock, that a non-western power was able to win a war against one. Before that Japan has not been taken that seriously, which probably contributed a lot to western ignorance in their endeavours before 1906.
the allies wre the real villains that the hidden historical truth
absolutely true and the same applies to Japan, they were accusing her of doing what they themselves were doing.
@@gabriel_swift8847 I was talking about the world order pre-WW1, which directly resulted in the origin tragedy of the 20th century called WW1. Social darwinism played a big role in that. WW2 is a whole different story.
FDR pushed the Morgenthau plan until his death. Eisenhower distributed 1000 copies of Morgenthau's book where he expanded on the plan. The JCS 1067 allowed for the Morgenthau plan but did not stipulate it, it required political will. Something that was present in Eisenhower and in FDR but not in Truman. A much more interesting question than "what if" is "how many Germans were starved to death because of US economic policy 1945 to july 1947?".
Mon Djak You Mean How Many Germans Starved Beacuse Of Soviet Economic Policy From 1945-1949.
@@sebastianguevara3615 No, the American occupation policy 1945-1947 killed more German civilians than USSR.
@@sebastianguevara3615 the allies killed anywhere from 9 to 11 million germans from mid 1945 to 1950. From 1945 to 1947 they raped 2.3 million german women. And created either 1.5 or 15 million refugees, I don't remember from memory but think it was the latter
What if Russia was colonized by the Mongol horde, who form a unique society after the fall of the Mongol Empire? How would the lack of European Russians impact the rest of history? Would Ukraine and Belarus become the centerpiece of Slavic civilization, or would they too be conquered?
What if the DDR reunified Germany
@The Nova renaissance I think he means if the communists took over all of Germany instead of west taking over east
Oh god no.
The Nova renaissance lol if communists would have won the Cold War I doubt Germany would be full of Muslim people. That’s more of the liberal democracy of the westerner nations
*It would not be like North-Korea*
Germany would be an underdeveloped country similar to North Korea. At least Germany would be almost 100% ethnic German then.
In reality they kept the Kalergi plan...
@ Exactly.
I’m American, my ancestors fought the wrong enemy
Where do you live?
@@RightfulArchon186 in your walls
@@jlane99 I'm coming for you
@@RightfulArchon186 hurry 💦
@@jlane99
Here are some video ideas
What If NATO Was An Empire?
What If The EU Was A Nation?
What If The USSR Conquered Asia (Foundations of Geopolitics)?
What If The US Became A Colonial Empire?
What If Antarctica Was Colonized By The US and USSR During The Cold War?
What If Argentina Joined The Axis Powers?
What If The Soviet Union Was Capitalist and The US Was Communist?
What If FDR Was Assassinated In 1933?
What If American Liberia Formed An African Union/United States of Africa?
What If The Madagascar Plan Succeeded?
What If Israel Conquered The Middle East and The Arab World?
Huu? Nato all ready is a empire
@@Trooper-tr6zi it's a military pact.
@@continualvariability3345 UK it's a military pact that starts wars.
@@Trooper-tr6zi pretty much every country do that. Besides it's a military pact
Soviet Union capitalist ? This sounds weird.
"Socialist Reich"
Me .exe has stopped working
Deučland..
الحسن عفتان it means Realm
Damn nazbols!
It is a correct phrase. The nazis were socialist, by definition of the word socialism.
@@theuberhunter9698 national socialism
What if the United States was founded on the rejection of all things British following the war of Independence. Rejection of the English language, rejection of protestantism/christianity, rejection of British mercantilism, and had the Norse exploration/coloniztion of Greenland, Markland, Helluland, and Vinland as their foundational mythos. Also the implementation of an Anglish or Norse language.
well then americans would have very little culture
Maybe Manifest Destiny wouldn't be a thing and the colonists would create a syncretic religion with deities from the Norse pantheon and deities from whatever Native American tribe they contact. English would almost certainly not be today's lingua franca, though.
How would this even occur? Since they were still British in ur war of independence?
They get so anti British the tear out a common language and adopt a foreign language just to flip off the British one last time ?
Imperial measurements are one thing but did they have large Scandinavian population? Who practiced such old faiths or language?
Wouldn't the French language in honor of what the French did for them be a more logical choice than norse.
@@Kassiaterabbitslayer the majority of Americans have germanic ancestry
That'd be awsome. It'd be a great nation which will be pro german
The worst timeline.
@ Okay. Understood. You don't like germans. But why tf writing about every fucking comment.
@ God are you a fuckin idiot? Stop commenting this shit. This literally would have upset our timeline and led to a Cold War possibly won by the Soviets. The German people did not deserve to be punished for WWII; Nazi Leadership did, and they were, even if it wasn't to the extent it should have been. You can't hate Germans, man, it's just as bad as people hating Jews.
or the endless orgasm timeline for the eternal Anglo
The best timeline
NazBol timeline.
The Nazis rose into power in the first place because Britain and France had imposed harsh terms on the Treaty of Versailles. If Kaiserreich says anything Germany would have never done the same had they won the Great War.
The two World Wars were never about ideologies (e.g. fascism vs Communism vs democracy) but rather a mere extension of the conflicts revolving around the balance of powers in Europe that had started in the late Middle Ages. Britain and France were not so much as defending democratic values as maintaining their statues as Great Powers at the expense of Germany. Only that their victory in World War II made them so weak that they lost their respective colonial empires and status as major powers.
The Cold War ushered in a new era where geopolitics has moved its focus away from Europe into the United States and the Soviet Union, both located at the peripheries of the continent.
Thank god for the marshall plan! my grandfather was a talented mechanik before WW2 but had to serve as a soldier / Truck driver on the east front. He came back traumatized and depressed, which affected my father as well, and so in some sense me too. The first half of the 20th Century was the greatest catastrophe, shall this errors never be made again by humans!
What if Holy Roman Empire became more centralized
Tententononc the it wouldn’t be the h.r.e
@@sorcererberoll4641 Why?
Holy roman empire was an fully centralised nation few first hundred years of its existence
Ach, this video caused me great pain to even watch. To see the Gerat Germany suffer like this.... it hurts the German blood that runs through my American body. I am glad this plan never came to fruition, but I also wish history had not turned so against the German in the first place.
@ I apologize for the poorly worded analogy.
I instead am referring to a wish that the German Empire had won the first World War, as it would have generated a (at least slightly) better world than what we have today.
@@MemeatorMotivatoroftheMemes It could have been better it could have been worse. Equally, an Entente victory could have ended up better or worse. Either way could have lead to a nuclear war which I think we can all agree is the actual worst timeline. Its stupid to say a Central Powers victory would lead to a better world because there are so many variables.
What if France was considered an axis member after ww2
James Legrand They couldn't have held back the USSR. The only reason ww3 didn't start is Stalin didn't quite feel like starting a massive war. It wasn't until the US built enough nuclear bombs that they were seriously threatened. There were plans to treat France as an axis member which the US supported and Britain did until they realized it would make them the main protector of europe.
It doesn’t matter what you do to the German people. We’ve been through every political oppression and depression. In the end the Germany will always come up top. Weren’t it for our liberal social politics. We would play a
Way more powerful role.
Together with your eastern territories
@@amadiohastruck4331 paying for country infrastructure doesn’t make them our territory it only makes them dependent on our economy thus working for us.
Huh. Seems like a Mass purge of comments happened down here. How interesting...
Rude? to point that a person is of the chosen people?
last I checked calling French a French isn't rude Lol
Boots Jew Calling Germans evil just because they are German is also pretty dumb af.
Cough Syrup Zionists in general are pretty dumb
Cool picture
Austria: starts ww1
Austria: brings tiny mustache man to Germany and starts ww2
Everyone: Germany is full of nazis
austria used to be austria-hungary and hitler served for germany in the first world war. germany was an ally of austria. austro fascism and national socialism are pretty much the same and most austrians wanted to be a part of germany becaus austria itself is/used to be a tiny place full of little villages no one heard about and has like relevant cities. and obviously, austrians speak german either way and wanted to be part of something bigger. nowadays, austria is independent again but who knows for how long...
Austria didn't start WW1. Serbia did.
@CipiRipi00 You dont actually believe this bullshit do you?
Austrians are Germans, Nazis are Socialist, dosent matter if German, Austrians or what ever, the enemy is Socialism... same enemy like today.
The Austrians didn’t exactly resist the Anschluss, did they?
1:48
go home Churchill u r clearly drunk
looks up morganthau* clicks early life* "Morganthau was born into a prominent jewish family"
oh imagine my shock
Lol
Morgenthau was from a certain group of people btw
I am aware that you never asked but I think it might be interesting to do a video about if germany never declared war on soviet russia. Love the video by the way.
Yea it'd be an interesting video
Great Idea
Soviet Russia was preparing to invade Germany in 1941 or the following years, so it would turn out into a defensive war for Germany. I am curious how would the warfare in Africa turn out in this scenario.
@@Wolfnacht Man, I am proud.
Finally someone whom I can agree with.
Most times, I am the only one writing this truth
@@sebping7205 Good to hear, bro!
Hello, Whitepill department? I'd like report a comment section.
kek
Mr.Z Videos:
Germany had been divided, so the Nazis come back but they are more communist this time and they are tolerated and liked by the germans
1:00 That's kind of hilarious coming from an American of all people with (by his last name) obvious German ancestry.
Also hilarious how the turn tables since nowadays Germany has redirected its supposed lust for expansion into creating and maintaining the European Union, arguably the biggest and longest lasting peace project in history while the US has been at war for most of its history and if we look at Asia and the Middle East could very well be considered a perennial disturber of world peace (if such a thing every actually existed in the first place).
"the European Union, arguably the biggest and longest lasting peace project in history"
That's such propagandist bullshit. The EU is not, never was, and never will be a "peace project". If anything, the NATO was one for Western Europe, and the cold war brought the Western European countries together.
@@elgoog-the-third And here's someone with no clue what they are about...
Maybe you should have looked into the EU's history a bit before making a fool of yourself.
Napoleon is celebrated as a hero of the "revolution" slaugtering untrained and barely armed civilians with cannons and soon after conquering all of Europe.
I`m 1/4 East-Prussian, I guess I should retake the lost teritoris for the fatherland an restore Bismarck
Allies win ww1: let's humiliate germany and break it up!
Allies win ww2: let's humiliate and break it up!
Allies win ww3: let's humiliate and break it up!
Allies win ww4: let's humiliate and break it up!
Ad infinitum
what are the chances that germany starts world war 3?
@@LukeTEvans if the Morgenthau plan happened
0:49 What is that large circular piece next to the machine gun? Is it some type of drum magazine?
I think its for ammo
An interesting 'Alternative-History' scenario might consider a world in which Franklin D. Roosevelt had survived to serve his entire fourth term.
>Googles to see who this Morgenthau guy is
>Go on Wiki
>Click on Early life
>"Born to a Jewish family"
@Nazx 36 Everything happens for a reason.
Allies: "We have to dismantle Germany, the whole existence of this country is dangerous to the world!"
also the Allies: *creates an independent Polish state*
The morgenthau plan was never implemented and most people in power saw it as ridiculous
You might be surprised, but the independent Polish Nation State has been givent o the Polish people by Kaiser Wilhelm II, after the German Reich defeated Russia in 1917 (Peace agreement of Brest Litovsk) The Reich did NOT keep the lands it conquered from Russia but gave it to the Poles, so they could establish their Nationstate.
That's how bad the Kaiser and the Germans were.😂
Wow, a Jew wrote a book saying Germany must perish? I'm utterly shocked.
That is probably they cruelest and most disgusting thing I've seen in my whole life!
Although, Winston Churchill's plan looks pretty fn good though.
Does anyone know what Henry Morgenthau's ethnic background was?
Jewish
No, really.
Guess he was feeling vindictive when he wrote this.
Da Juice!
This would be the biggest genocide in human history
What if Mongolian Army success to invade Japan?
the thing is the last year of the war would have been very diffrent if the Morgenthau plan had been kept. Once it was gotten rid of the Germans in the west all but surrendered allowing the western allies to sweep east as fast as they could drive, but with the morgenthau plan still in effect that would not have happened and the Germans would have reissted the western allies as stiffly as they did the soviets resulting in the soviets occupation reaching much further west My guess is there wouldn't have been a middle Germany, the soviets would have left so little to the allies that there would essentially only have been the international zone and perhaps a small south Germany.
WW2 made no sense from a British standpoint. What did we achieve? Germany, who during WW2 had zero intention to fight us or our empire, fell apart. We didn't guarantee polish independence, and fought for a country that caused far more deaths (USSR), lost our empire, went into debt and USA replaced our position as world power. And yet we celebrated it?
We should've stayed neutral.
You ignoring all the other treaties? They had? The fear they had of German lead world?
We celebrate the destruction of Nazism and freedom and liberation of states who were deeply oppressed by the nazi ideals. We celebrate the scarifice.
It makes me sad u think the thing we honor and celebrate in the end of WW2 is USA becoming the global market cause of land lease n cash n carry
The United Kingdom had been following the same policy of avoiding hegemonic powers in Continental Europe for centuries.
As much as Hitler did not want war with Britain, the Nazi delirium of building an empire that would reach the Volga, cleaning up the entire population that was in the middle, could not materialize in any way.
West: dismantle Germany!! Germany NO
The fact that Germany lost Prussia is terrible because Prussia it’s self is probably more German than the rest of the country
I saw this book in 1973 while visiting my grandfather. The author was a raving lunatic with bigotry only at the level of the Nazis, which where defeated only 3 decades earlier.
Napoleon was correct ; history is always written by the victors and is set of lies agreed upon.
Imagine such a book published with such sentiments against another nation
I am german amd that is scary to listen
@@dsntrllymttr Ironically most of them are by American Neo-Nazis in order to justify their Anti-Semitism.
@@Exodon2020 White Americans are all from Shem Noah's son they can't be Anti-Semitic
@@Exodon2020 Are you a jew?
@@Exodon2020 - Is that a real problem, because I had read the plan myself, the person behind it, and I really believe that they had a legitimate reason for those thoughts.
dont start wars germans!
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Fun fact Theodore Newman Kaufman was jewish.
Imagine my shock
OYY GEVALT!
I'm glad we can largely agree that this was a hideous idea.
The Treaty of Versailles already showed what can happen if you try to punish the loser of a war beyond all reason. The effect of this stupid plan would've been even worse.
True. It's like Morgy learned nothing from the shitshow that happened previously.
The treaty of Versailles was a failure because it let Germany and Austria survive. The Germans couldn't have fought back if they were culturally and genetically erased.
@@utzius8003 and you are the worst
@@utzius8003 Ah a xenophobic person! Didn't see that in a while.
@@Ilyiasynit's just the true man, the treaty of Versailles wasn't harsh enough to Germany (thanks to UK and USA) and that's why it led to WWII
I'm not saying that Germany and Austria must be culturally and genetically erased through
Wir bleiben hier den wir sind das Volk!
@ Dein Land ist nicht echt.
Constantin Becker early German unification
*dir völkischen.
Ironic but the Morganthau plan was little different than the Final Solution...
White Western Nations vs the seed of the serpent small hat Tribe
What if Baktria and the Indo-Greek Kingdom stayed together? Would they have helped Crassus against Parthia?
Meanwhile the Kommenthau Plan is set in motion and a war breaks out in the comment section...
Imma sit here in the western hemisphere and watch the fireworks.
“What if Athens conquered Sparta!”
PrezAli 2040 macedon still kicks their ass
Is it surprising that the man who wrote the book "Germany bad" is a jew?
No
Not surprising, though he might have been reading too much enemy propaganda when he wrote the book.
He went way too far with this idea.
It's like Voltaire said of the Holy Roman Empire- It's NOT holy. It's NOT Roman. And it's NOT an empire. But apart from that, the name is totally accurate!
I was discussing Voltaire's views on the Holy Roman Empire just the other day, with a fellow just regular everyday American. And she looked at me like I was the one being weird! I don't get it...
I'm not even an ethnic German and this makes me angry
@@Contrarian-C - Judas
@@elcidleon6500 My comments a year ago are cringe, I take most of them back now lmao
Germany is based
@@Contrarian-C - Yeah, don't worry about it. People change as the world is becoming more dire.
These comments greatly disturbed me… it shows a large amount of comments focusing on Kaufman being Jewish, and just genuinely seem to be from extremely hateful people.
Dude you're not responsible for every supervillain who happens to be Jewish. I'm sure you're not getting a 10K check every month from the Rotschchilds lmaoooo. Jews tend to be educated and couldn't own land back in the day in Europe but were encouraged by kings to do banking so they could charge interest without the king technically doing it. So there's powerful people for generations from those families. Some of them became corrupt with power. There's bad apples everywhere. Our current oligarch overlords Bezos and Musk are NOT Jewish. I wish the painter guy had had the nuance to separate powerful rich corporate families mentally from normal people. TBH I think a huge portion of Germans are part Ashkenazi. Anyway I went on a tangent but I know it sucks to just be living your life and see irrational racism
Yeah, it's as if people are normalising hatred towards Jews and going mask off about it, like the world has went back to the 1920s-1940s
Germany was never more expansionist nor war like than any of the other european empires. The difference was they were so effective at war that it took the rest of the world to stop them in both world wars.
1:46 That plan Roosevelt had seems interesting for a potential alternate timeline
This pisses me off. The Treaty of Versailles was already too much and brought the second world war.
Sounds great