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  • Опубликовано: 22 сен 2020
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    What if the July 20th Plot, also known as Operation Valkyrie, was successfully carried out by plotters Claus Von Stauffenberg, Henning Von Tresckow, Ludwig Beck, and Carl Goerdeler, assassinating Adolf Hitler, triggering a military coup, and overthrowing the German regime?
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  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean  3 года назад +208

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    • @currymanjunior3603
      @currymanjunior3603 3 года назад +1

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    • @sp1nks248
      @sp1nks248 3 года назад +3

      What would the World look like if all you're What if videos where complied on a map.

    • @AwoudeX
      @AwoudeX 3 года назад +1

      For my needs, the minivan is far more practical. So only if i have a car that can carry some load and traverse the rougher roads, i'd even consider a sporty car that would have sacrificed the practicality for performance.

    • @lucius6667
      @lucius6667 2 года назад

      Wonder what would have happened had Himmler won the leadership race or ernst Rohm

    • @JulianPerez-it9sm
      @JulianPerez-it9sm Год назад

      One part I think you left out of this video was the Warsaw Uprising. It was a massive uprising against the general government of occupied Poland that was orchestrated by the polish home army. It happened just a few weeks after the attempt on Hitlers life and I think it would have been incredibly important for this alternate timeline. The main goal of the uprising was to have the polish government in exile return to Warsaw and secure the nations independence from both Germany and the USSR. With the German military being weakened by most likely infighting between anti and pro NSDAP forces, the uprising would have been successful. This likely lead to conflict between the soviets and the West, with disputes between the returning polish government and a Soviet backed communist government. So Poland would have been divided into two countries like Germany In our timeline.

  • @jeremytibbetts3576
    @jeremytibbetts3576 3 года назад +724

    Remember when you get your time machine you don't have to kill Hitler. You just have to buy his paintings

    • @Cpt_Boony_Hat
      @Cpt_Boony_Hat 3 года назад +59

      Or make Wilson lose in 1912

    • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
      @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja 3 года назад +14

      @@Cpt_Boony_Hat President Wilson? If yes, he became the president in 1913.

    • @Cpt_Boony_Hat
      @Cpt_Boony_Hat 3 года назад +36

      @@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja yes but the election was in 1912

    • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
      @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja 3 года назад +5

      @@Cpt_Boony_Hat True, just remember that there was some time between election and inauguration.

    • @confused4971
      @confused4971 3 года назад +5

      Gonna have to agree with this. Lots of people would kill baby hitler if they could, but they really should just either beat the shit out of the "father" hitler had, or get him to raise his son better

  • @trippfields279
    @trippfields279 3 года назад +574

    "What if WW1 Came Early"
    Aka, what if the Agadir Crisis started WW1

    • @danieldelaney1377
      @danieldelaney1377 3 года назад +37

      or what of the boer war triggered ww1

    • @CZPC
      @CZPC 3 года назад +8

      Please this.

    • @Schaapdatmekkert
      @Schaapdatmekkert 3 года назад +2

      Dogger bank gone wild ?

    • @currymanjunior3603
      @currymanjunior3603 3 года назад +3

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    • @camilomadrigal6762
      @camilomadrigal6762 2 года назад +1

      By early do you mean like Napoleon times or...

  • @danialhalal
    @danialhalal 3 года назад +1802

    Simple: Adolf Hotler wouldnt be Alive

  • @chillaxo9863
    @chillaxo9863 3 года назад +1205

    If Roosevelt hadn't played the unconditional surrender card, a realistic scenario like this would be the Soviets taking everything up to Poland pre war. The Germans might have gotten to keep Austria.

    • @z3r0_35
      @z3r0_35 3 года назад +93

      That's assuming the Soviets would've been content to accept those conditions. They'd likely also sieze East Prussia as they did in OTL (this I would see as being the bare minimum that the Soviets would accept as reparations for the millions killed on the Eastern Front) and would probably at least attempt to sack Berlin, but it's possible that the Wehrmacht might be able to hold the line for a little while if they don't have to worry about the western borders and can concentrate entirely on the east.

    • @chillaxo9863
      @chillaxo9863 3 года назад +57

      @@z3r0_35 that's what I meant if everything up to Polands pre war border. Although Stalin used the casualties (which he exacerbated with incompetence, the nkvd etc)
      as an excuse to further his power far into Europe, he might have backed of if the western Allies demanded peace. Its probable that Germans throughout Eastern Europe would be enslaved or slaughtered anyway there's no changing the Red Army's contempt on that.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 3 года назад +34

      @@z3r0_35 the soviets aren't in a possition to make such demands if the germans can get the west on their side. soviet supply relied on american trucks and more than half their ammunition was created from materials from the US.
      if germany
      1) tried the nazis for warcrimes, exposeing and condemning the various camps
      2) immediately freed poland, the baltic states, czechoslovakia, france, belgium, norway, denmark, northern italy and the balklans, withdrawing and with drawing 90% of the military to the east (only leaveing some troops along the Siegfried line) BEFORE the peace treaties. (thus creating willing allies [or more than historically] in the poles and baltic states, aswell as the czechs and slovaks and reduceing partisan actions.
      then germany is in a decently strong position against the soviets (as none of the east wants soviet control) and the British don't want soviet control. the americans don't have the excuse of letting the soviets have the east in order to destroy germany, and the individualists would be increasingly demanding an end to the war (why punish germans willing to kick out and punish the perpetrators?)
      the germans effecitvely gain manpower (eastern states and occupation forces) and at least british support and probably american support. while the soviets loose both american and british support.
      as for the millions killed by the germans? stalin killed more soviet people un to that point than the germans did. they likely would have tried to take as mutch as possible and then refuse to give it up. historically the soviet army ran out of steam infront of warsaw and had to wait for supplies to be brought back up. in this timeline since the US can't justify lendlease and the british didn't really want to do so in the first place. they are going to need more time in this stop to build up. they would likely also be faceing stiffer opposition as they are faceing both poles and germans.
      worst-case scenario british (and even american) supplies are given to german-polish forces to help them stop the soviets. you would likely end up in a korean-war type scenario where the soviets dislike the outcome but are finding it harder to push out, while the 'central powers'/west would also be unable to push.

    • @z3r0_35
      @z3r0_35 3 года назад +17

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 You’re assuming that the UK and US would even have the willpower to fight with the Soviets over it. While certain people like Winston Churchill and George Patton were willing (and the latter was murdered for it), by 1944-1945 the people of the UK and US were already getting weary of the war (and nevermind France, which would still be recovering from the occupation and thus wouldn’t be in a position to fight on, assuming they’d even be willing to help Germany at this point). There was also the matter of Soviet sympathizers, which was much more of a problem within the US as organizations like the State Department were lousy with infiltrators and sympathizers, which may have contributed to, among other things, China falling to the Communists (and led to Senator McCarthy’s efforts to root out Communists, unlike what Hollywood and the public school system would have you believe). This likely includes FDR himself, though he has less than a year to live by that point.
      It is possible, as I said before, that the Soviets could have been placated with some more minor concessions (i.e. ceding East Prussia, dominion over Poland and the Baltic States) that would’ve left Germany unified by the end, but I don’t think that much would have changed beyond that in that regard. The Nazi Party would still likely be abolished as a condition of peace and high-ranking officials handed over to be tried for war crimes, and further restrictions would be imposed on the Wehrmacht to largely disarm Germany at least on a temporary basis.
      Now that said, if there IS willpower to fight the Soviets over the issue of German sovereignty, then it’s entirely possible that the US is able to force the collapse of the Soviet Union. How, you might ask? Nukes. If the worst came to pass and B-29s could be based close enough (likely by putting pressure on Sweden and/or Finland, or outright invading and occupying them like the Entente did to Greece in World War I), it’s highly likely that Moscow and Leningrad would’ve been hit with nuclear weapons (keep in mind that at the time the Soviets had NOTHING that could intercept the B-29 effectively at high altitude, which led to them stockpiling as many Me 262s as they could find just in case in OTL - with the inability to push into Germany proper they wouldn’t have access to these jets), possibly killing off the Politburo and decapitating the Communist Party. The ensuing power vacuum would immediately throw the Soviet Union into a civil war from which it may be unable to recover.

    • @herrnchaos7490
      @herrnchaos7490 3 года назад

      Oh hell no

  • @jeffreysommer3292
    @jeffreysommer3292 Год назад +13

    "Mein Fuehrer! How are you so good at knocking out time-travelling assassins?" "Practice!"

  • @endorsedvampire7581
    @endorsedvampire7581 3 года назад +82

    Here is a recommendation: what if the ptolemy dynasty never fell?

    • @wickederebus
      @wickederebus 3 года назад +7

      well, take a look at Hapsburgs, and factor in, the ptolemies gave us the great Cleopatra. there is hope.

    • @dunkelheit5055
      @dunkelheit5055 3 года назад +3

      @Will DeMarco i mean to be honest austria hungary did least in the great war. Germany held the western front and won on the eastern front, (also reinforcing the hungarian border) Bulgaria (technically contributing the least but not in compearison) helped on the balkans on the Macidonian front and again Romania (and helped Austria defeat serbia.) The ottomans held at gallipoli and at least tried their best in Armenia and the southern front and Austria Hungary, witch tried to push into Russia and failed, then into serbia where they stalemated and then in the Italian front where the same thing happend.

    • @dunkelheit5055
      @dunkelheit5055 3 года назад

      @@bakthihapuarachchi3447 well i think that if we drag the Roman civil war a little longer, fuel unrest in Gaul and the Middle east, then made Gaul and the Middle east explode into rebellion, maybe we could destroy the Roman State.

  • @billhope2596
    @billhope2596 3 года назад +162

    I've always said that this plot would have worked if someone had of been willing to die to make sure Hitler also died. Not only did they need someone to plant the bomb but make sure he didn't get out of the room. But alas no one wanted to go that far.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 2 года назад +1

      I don't think they imagined it would be needed. They make a bomb they think is strong enough to kill everyone in the room, no need to have a guy in there to tie Hitler to a chair or merely distract him. Making bombs is hard, you could have three staff officers in there taping Hitler to a chair and still risk a dud.

    • @richgweil
      @richgweil 2 года назад +17

      THANK you! I have always said that the hero worship that some have for Von Stauffenberg is misplaced. The plotters could have made sure if they were willing to sacrifice, but they really just wanted to make sure they were alive to hold power in the new government.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 2 года назад +2

      @@richgweil Their plan isn't just to kill Hitler so the NSDAP can have a succession crisis and then probably elevate Himmler to the same position. The coup is aimed against the SS and NSDAP itself.
      These guys happen to be placed in the coup defence at the time, their plan was to use that to make rounds of arrests.

    • @richgweil
      @richgweil 2 года назад +16

      @@SusCalvin No, I get that. I understand they had to plan for afterwards. But in the recipe for roast rabbit, the first step is to catch a rabbit. No post-Hitler planning is worth anything if Hitler is still around.
      The plotters needed to ensure the success of the assassination. The best way to do that would have been for one of them to sacrifice themselves. But they all wanted those post-Hitler jobs. That doomed them. And, in my personal opinion, puts a lot of tarnish on the heroism that some people tag them with. That's my point.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 2 года назад

      @@richgweil There isn't a lot of them. They genuinely believe one of these bombs will kill Hitler, making bombs is harder than it looks.
      I don't know what you want them to have done. Wrassle Hitler down into a chair? Run at him with a pistol or knife? At this point, access to Hitler is controlled.

  • @androclesst.matthew5934
    @androclesst.matthew5934 2 года назад +14

    The show “Unsolved History” proved in an experiment that if Stauffenberg had left the second unarmed bomb in the briefcase along with the first armed one, Hitler would have definitely been killed!

  • @Bluesonofman
    @Bluesonofman 3 года назад +385

    Operation Valkyrie? (I don’t have time to watch. Right now)

    • @VladimirPutin-on9xq
      @VladimirPutin-on9xq 3 года назад +5

      Of course it is?

    • @Bluesonofman
      @Bluesonofman 3 года назад +3

      @NO COMMIES Before or after Rhineland?

    • @KayJblue
      @KayJblue 3 года назад +5

      It’s a good movie too,maybe you can find time to watch that.

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 3 года назад +14

      @@KayJblue Not really. It's a pretty generic good guys vs bad guys action movie. In reality, all the conspirators were much more morally grey than the movie portrays, aside from maybe Treskow. They were all convinced to support Valkyrie by backhanded means and some were even more horrible antisemites than Hitler himself who didn't think he went far enough. Others supported the plot based off their own tactical needs.

    • @KayJblue
      @KayJblue 3 года назад +1

      Wisemankugel Memicus I know it’s not the most realistic but it’s still a decent film and it does inspire to research it more.

  • @floatingf8783
    @floatingf8783 3 года назад +111

    Hitler: I'd like to see you try! 42 attempts and even more time travelers all failed!

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 3 года назад +16

      Red Alert timeline Einstine: I am gonna do whats called a pro gamer move.
      Red Alert Soviets: I am gonns ruin this mans whole career

    • @sadiqahmed4143
      @sadiqahmed4143 3 года назад

      Time traveler:- that's it prepare the 20 megaton Nuke

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 2 года назад

      Stewie Griffin, Nazi hunter!

    • @R.Specktre
      @R.Specktre 2 года назад

      No more methed up responses, please...🤣

  • @herrderr1921
    @herrderr1921 3 года назад +169

    Do What if Heydrich survived and became the Mastermind of the werhwolf

    • @mm-ez6xn
      @mm-ez6xn 3 года назад +17

      wehrwolf was done but it got all of the restrictions from youtube

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  3 года назад +38

      It would probably be taken down again.

    • @alexanderraz.
      @alexanderraz. 3 года назад

      What is wehrwolf

    • @mm-ez6xn
      @mm-ez6xn 3 года назад +30

      @@alexanderraz. it was a video Mr Z made about what if germany basically fought a huge guerilla war against the occupying soviets and west culminating in their independence as a north-korea like state beginning sometime in the 50s

    • @sassycat
      @sassycat 3 года назад +2

      Thanks, Google.

  • @Nicky-bv9xk
    @Nicky-bv9xk 3 года назад +467

    - What If Maximilian Robespierre remained in power?
    - What If North Korea won the Korean War?
    What if Superheroes like Superman exists in the real world?
    - What if 9/11 never happened?
    - What if Syndicalism became more prominent in Socialist ideology instead of Communism?
    - What if Italian army was effective in WW2?

    • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
      @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 3 года назад +96

      I like the second one

    • @asianlifter
      @asianlifter 3 года назад +15

      if north korea won the korean war the DPRK would actually be a threat to the sovereignty of other nations

    • @Nicky-bv9xk
      @Nicky-bv9xk 3 года назад +7

      Kim Jong-un Hey Rocket Man! 🤗

    • @Nothing-1w3
      @Nothing-1w3 3 года назад +56

      "- what if Italian army was effective in ww2"
      This is alt history. Not fantasy.

    • @Nicky-bv9xk
      @Nicky-bv9xk 3 года назад +12

      Adblock HitHer • 10 years ago of course it’s fantasy, that’s alt history for you. And as the last one I suggest, it’s more Mussolini wet dream of having an actual army than being a bitch to Hitler.

  • @unclesam5230
    @unclesam5230 3 года назад +45

    Last time I was this early Julius Caesar was conquering Gaul.

    • @vger4781
      @vger4781 3 года назад +8

      @@Perririri Just realize that one day you will have to anser to HIm for everything you say!

  • @geno3911
    @geno3911 3 года назад +75

    there was an assassination attempt on hitler during the 1930s in the munich beer hall but he left 15 minutes early
    "pity he didnt have another pint"

  • @Ray-xq3cx
    @Ray-xq3cx 3 года назад +91

    Last time I clicked on a video fast, Germany still had a Kaiser.

    • @williamgignilliat8018
      @williamgignilliat8018 3 года назад +4

      Same

    • @t.gregory835
      @t.gregory835 3 года назад +2

      ERIKA

    • @asianlifter
      @asianlifter 3 года назад +9

      Last time I clicked on a video that fast, Germany’s position of Kaiser was still somewhat respectable

    • @XMando11
      @XMando11 3 года назад +2

      Last time I was this early I wasn’t losing the war against the Soviet union

    • @XMando11
      @XMando11 3 года назад +2

      The war is not lost !

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 3 года назад +65

    Von Stauffenberg didn't even need to arm the second charge. He just needed to throw it into the briefcase. Instead he stuffed it in his pocket. Had both bombs gone off, it *would have killed everyone in the room.*

    • @jacqueschouette7474
      @jacqueschouette7474 2 года назад +22

      I have always thought that after the explosion, while everyone in the room was still stunned, Von Stauffenberg or someone else who did not have the same limitations of Von Stauffenberg, should have gone back into the room with an automatic weapon and hosed down the room just to make sure that everyone was dead with special emphasis placed on Hitler. Von Stauffenberg could have possibly died, but at least, he would have made sure that Hitler was dead.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 2 года назад +20

      @@jacqueschouette7474 that was kind of a problem with all these assassination attempts, no one was willing to stake their life on it, let along sacrifice their life for it.

    • @nutyyyy
      @nutyyyy 2 месяца назад

      Plus if the meeting had taken place in the bunker as intended rather than above ground then the explosion would have been far more effective.

  • @russman3149
    @russman3149 3 года назад +291

    What if Stalin was assassinated

    • @Barwasser
      @Barwasser 3 года назад +30

      depends on the year. Anything pre war/purge would probably help the Soviets. During the war - not so much

    • @beardiegaming1952
      @beardiegaming1952 3 года назад +5

      We would all be speaking German

    • @mitjed
      @mitjed 3 года назад +26

      He was assassinated, he did not suffer a stroke, he was most likely poisoned. Stalin was a threat to anyone including his own party. Beria, Stalins minister of internal security, boasted on killing Stalin, 2 months after his death.

    • @leninbilalexander6754
      @leninbilalexander6754 3 года назад +15

      Anything before the five- year plans would hinder the USSR's rapid industrialization and therefore essentially give the Nazis the keys to Moscow and Leningrad. During the war would make the USSR collapse. After the war could work, though.

    • @EternalModerate
      @EternalModerate 3 года назад +18

      @@leninbilalexander6754 Not necessarily, another soviet leader could pursue a more pragmatic economic approach; giving the USSR a similar level of industrialization without the enormous human cost or loss of military leadership.

  • @EmperorDarthOP
    @EmperorDarthOP 3 года назад +119

    What if Yellowstone had a Super Eruption before the 1st Wrold War?

    • @the-letter_s
      @the-letter_s 3 года назад +15

      this is a good one

    • @hubbletrubble7875
      @hubbletrubble7875 3 года назад +13

      Something similar, although slightly earlier and much less intense, happened in 1816, called the Year Without a Summer, caused by the Tambora Eruption.

    • @Nothing-1w3
      @Nothing-1w3 3 года назад +8

      A BIG OOF

    • @hassanalihusseini1717
      @hassanalihusseini1717 3 года назад +7

      What if the Tunguska comet had arrived a ferw hours later (and impacted may be Berlin or Paris or London instead)?

    • @benjaminjackboot6409
      @benjaminjackboot6409 3 года назад +1

      Most likely it could have created a world more like the one shown in The Peshawar Lancers (2002) by Stirling.

  • @shanepond7063
    @shanepond7063 3 года назад +102

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    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 8 месяцев назад

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  • @liamboote225
    @liamboote225 3 года назад +29

    Ohhh I thought of a pretty interesting idea. What if the Stresa Front stayed together?

  • @FireurchinProductionsByzantium
    @FireurchinProductionsByzantium 3 года назад +25

    What if both Longjump and Valkyrie succeeded

  • @Fight4Supreme
    @Fight4Supreme 3 года назад +46

    Me: *reads the title*
    Also Me: He kind of was... by himself!

  • @Roymelth42
    @Roymelth42 3 года назад +162

    Good effort as always. Although I think that mid 1944 was a time were it was too late for a mild peace for Germany in a position as an anti-communist shield. After two world wars involving so many deaths, hatred towards the German people was at it's peak. So much, allied forces threw bombs at literally everything that looked like a building in German cities.
    For me, a peace deal where Germany would've been allowed to retain Austria, Sudetenland & 1914 eastern borders seems a bit too good of a deal for Germany to have happened then. At most, they would've gotten their borders restored to how they were 1937, with the polish having to agree to allow German civil traffic cross the corridor. The western allies would've quickly switched focus onto stopping the USSR and preventing eastern Europe from falling to communist forces. Diplomatic, at first...

    • @hansschuster9675
      @hansschuster9675 2 года назад +6

      I fully agree it was Just too late
      The Video is a Lil bit too pro german optimistic even If i as a german would Love those borders xD

    • @somedudeonline1936
      @somedudeonline1936 Год назад +3

      I think any attempt before 1943 wouldnt have changed much since the the allies will only accept unconditional surrender.

    • @cantripleplays
      @cantripleplays Год назад +1

      I don’t think they would get anything like a colony, but they would probably peace with them without losing much land and would probably have to allow Britain France and America move their military through their land. They would not get peace with the soviets.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 8 месяцев назад

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    • @eddieschwab864
      @eddieschwab864 6 месяцев назад

      Unconditional surrender would assume that the Nazis were still in power. A change in regime away from the Nazis would have been able to secure a separate peace from the Western allies. ​@@somedudeonline1936

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 3 года назад +38

    what if the Romanovs became the ruling royal family of the UK

    • @mathieuleader8601
      @mathieuleader8601 3 года назад +8

      @The Nova renaissance I've based this on the Saxe-Coburgs inviting them and having a pact with them to assume the throne as they in this timeline did not want to deny their german heritage.

  • @kaiserwilhelmii674
    @kaiserwilhelmii674 3 года назад +8

    You monster! You had to post this just when my lecture starts?

  • @denisstoynev3935
    @denisstoynev3935 3 года назад +76

    What if the Mongol Empire conquered Japan?
    What if Bulgaria won the 2nd Balkan War?
    Here's my 2 ideas for the next video :P

    • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
      @user-kt8yp5ho2y 3 года назад +4

      Yeah Japan will become the puppet just like the Goyeo(고려).

    • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
      @user-kt8yp5ho2y 3 года назад +2

      OMG! I was thinking the same thing!!!

    • @JastwatchingYT
      @JastwatchingYT 3 года назад +1

      wait bulgaria could have won the second Balkan war?

    • @The-Samuil
      @The-Samuil 3 года назад +5

      @@JastwatchingYT They had just as many soldiers as Greece and Serbia combined. If it wasn't for Romania joining the war they could have won

    • @JastwatchingYT
      @JastwatchingYT 3 года назад

      @@The-Samuil Yeah but I though romania had every interest in joining the war such as bulgaria was unprepared romania wanted dobrudja etc.

  • @kimtran6589
    @kimtran6589 3 года назад +15

    What if the Italian futurist movement was successful instead of fascism

  • @matthewmohri9990
    @matthewmohri9990 3 года назад +2

    GG As Hell!!! Prt 2 will be awesome!

  • @saadude96
    @saadude96 3 года назад +13

    Your quality has improved so much. Loving it

    • @saadude96
      @saadude96 3 года назад +4

      By that I mean sound quality and balancing. Still the same good content

  • @darealpoopster
    @darealpoopster 3 года назад +22

    I’m popping my popcorn, don’t get too controversial without me

  • @ImperialZorn686
    @ImperialZorn686 3 года назад +12

    What if the Beer Hall Putch was successful ?

  • @SamIrwin118
    @SamIrwin118 2 года назад +2

    Nice algorithm just as WW3 is starting

  • @wwltd3036
    @wwltd3036 Год назад +3

    These videos leave one with a bad case of theoretical history blue balls

  • @jamesmmcgill
    @jamesmmcgill 3 года назад +12

    What if Saul Goodman became the President of the United States of America?

  • @connordevereaux759
    @connordevereaux759 3 года назад +2

    Good video. I like your
    channels content 😄

  • @hiddenwoodsben
    @hiddenwoodsben 2 года назад +1

    so happy that you mentioned fdr's 43-ultimatum. i often wonder whether anything would have changed if he had just bit his tongue.

  • @JL-ti3us
    @JL-ti3us 3 года назад +3

    Mr Z; based upon your sponsors and advertisements of late, I have concluded a Mr Z ASMR channel is just what I have been missing in my life. Please make pole to gauge interest. Hell could be you reading history info. Sincerely Loyal Subscriber.

  • @McLovinTRoyce
    @McLovinTRoyce 3 года назад +15

    Any possible scenario where the English monarchs fled the British isles and settled in the American colonies (before the revolution)?

  • @EvilParagon4
    @EvilParagon4 3 года назад +2

    Mr Z., I have an idea for an alternate history, one that's a bit less classic but I think could still be super interesting.
    What if Australia was discovered in 1520ish by Portugal?
    There is a theory that Portugal discovered Australia back then since they started putting Java Grande on their maps, but it was probably just because they put land there due to it being uncharted but ocean patterns near East Timor would discern that there was not open ocean to the south, but land. So what if they _actually_ discovered Australia, not just guessed it was there and put it on maps?
    The back to back discoveries of new worlds only 30 years apart sounds like it could stretch empires thin.

  • @americansyndicalist7602
    @americansyndicalist7602 3 года назад +4

    A redo of the operation valkyrie video? Cool

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y 3 года назад +9

    I love it! And here are the lists that I want to see the future video.
    1. What if Korean Empire never fails.
    2. What if Korea becomes the colony of France?
    3. What if Japan becomes the colony of the USA?
    4. What if Xinhai Revolution failed?
    5. What if Two Sicilian Empire had a colony or refuse to united with Italian Empire?
    6. What if USA failed in the Spanish American war?
    7. What if Ethiopia was the superpower in the African continent?
    8. What if Park Chunghee survives in the 10/26?
    9. What if China was scrambled like Africa?
    10. What if China won the First Sino-Japanese War?
    11. What if Guiana becomes the state of Canada?
    12. What if France and Britain involve the Civil war?
    13. What if the Berlin uprising success and the Soviet evacuate East Germany?
    14. What if the second Korean war happened in 1975 or 1994?
    15. What if Grand Admiral Yi sun shin never died?
    16. What if Japan invades Australia?
    17. What British and France involved the civil war?
    18. What if the Confederates won the civil war?

    • @asianlifter
      @asianlifter 3 года назад +2

      depends on how this happens. china in general has sucked a lot in wars, so i find it unlikely theyd win.
      as for a china scramble i find that unlikely, more or less japan will become way more militant and hostile like Hitler, and there would be a great budget to keep a chinese colony

    • @Nothing-1w3
      @Nothing-1w3 3 года назад +1

      What the fuck is 18th is meant to be?

    • @Nothing-1w3
      @Nothing-1w3 3 года назад +2

      Yes I am grammar nazi..
      12. What if France and Britain where involved in the American civil war
      13. What if the Berlin uprising succeeded and the Soviets evacuate east Berlin
      18. What if Confederation won the American civil war (I guess that what it us supposed to be?)

    • @asianlifter
      @asianlifter 3 года назад +1

      @@Nothing-1w3 just because a sentence doesnt make sense means youre a grammar nazi, but i get where youre coming from.

  • @welshymcwelshface4841
    @welshymcwelshface4841 3 года назад +8

    There is no way Germany would get to keep Alsace-lorraine.

    • @KillerofWestoids
      @KillerofWestoids 3 года назад

      They should be allowed to keep the 1937 borders.

  • @DamonNomad82
    @DamonNomad82 3 года назад +13

    The last time I was this early, von Stauffenberg was still carrying an explosive suitcase toward the Wolf's Lair.

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 3 года назад +2

      The last time I was this early, The Trump Train was still hooked up to the Lolita Express!

  • @FastCarsNoRules220
    @FastCarsNoRules220 2 года назад +1

    Hitler was already assassinated, he got shot by Professor Farnsworth's laser gun after saying "Behold my mustache".

  • @ClayandPapyrus
    @ClayandPapyrus 3 года назад +12

    Erwin Rommel Simps: Oh yes daddy

  • @Bahns007
    @Bahns007 3 года назад +57

    Got two things
    What if term limits were always a law and not a tradition at first? This could greatly affect both World Wars as Teddy Roosevelt and FDR both ran for their third terms just before each World War.
    And what if Christianity United instead of being split into Catholicism, Protestantism and Orthodoxy?

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 2 года назад

      The orthodoxy are the closest ones to the early church organisation, I think. If those traditions are maintained instead of the eminence of Rome, their model of multiple regional centers of religious authority instead of a single hierarchy might have become the norm in western Europe as well. You'd have the franco-iberian metropolity and such with an entirely independent selection of bishops. All sorts of history involving the papacy gets shaken up.

    • @lonelyp1
      @lonelyp1 2 года назад

      We would still have religious wackos, and are you trying to take FDR away before his third term and forth election? We need a new FDR now. And you people wouldn't let us have BERNIE.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 2 года назад

      @@lonelyp1 The people who were for Bernie should've either showed up to write him in or vote 3rd party to protest against the 2-party sham. Instead, most of them just stayed home and did nothing.

    • @lonelyp1
      @lonelyp1 2 года назад +1

      @@InfernosReaper I voted for Bernie 4 times. 2 primaries and 2 generals

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 2 года назад

      @@lonelyp1 You're sadly a small minority of those who claim to support Bernie

  • @shadithakis
    @shadithakis 3 года назад +2

    I just realize you dont have 100k yet. That's so dumb these videos are awesome

  • @LVCE.
    @LVCE. 3 года назад +17

    Ah yes he got Kennedyed

    • @LVCE.
      @LVCE. 3 года назад +3

      Will DeMarco lmao

    • @comeintotheforest
      @comeintotheforest 3 года назад +5

      But nothing bad ever happens to the Kennedys

    • @LVCE.
      @LVCE. 3 года назад +3

      comeintotheforest haha

  • @Rendarth1
    @Rendarth1 3 года назад +57

    Despite Roosevelt's blustering, I do think an armistice would have been signed in order to avoid senseless war. Though I can't imagine Germany keeping anything except for Austria. France would demand a fully restored Czech state, and nobody would ever allow the Reich a colony in Africa.

    • @peterson7082
      @peterson7082 2 года назад +1

      Poland is iffy

    • @starmnsixty1209
      @starmnsixty1209 2 года назад +2

      The US didn't declare the war over until late 1946, in case hostilities flared again with the Soviet Union. I disagree it would have been senseless. The world would have been a more peaceful place w/o the Communist Soviet Union even if the US ended being less powerful than it is in our time line. It's been argued with some conviction that President Truman should have finished them then. Current events involving various former Soviet Republics lend credence to that even if it is somewhat aside from this alternate history.

    • @markfoster1520
      @markfoster1520 2 года назад +1

      @@starmnsixty1209 This is mnot bad. I've heard people suggest just that.....but you're forgetting the sheer numbers of Russian armament which we provided!

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 2 года назад +1

      @@peterson7082 germany couldnt have kept Poland. Poland was a sovereign nation

    • @peterson7082
      @peterson7082 2 года назад

      @@spenser6353 Going with the original commenter's mannerisms applied for these conditions, I can see Poland being cast aside in this alternate history

  • @SkinnerNoah
    @SkinnerNoah 2 года назад +4

    What if Julius Caesar survived the ides of March?
    Perhaps he has armor under his toga, perhaps Antony saves him, but regardless, Caesar is alive on March 16th, and he's *angry* ...

  • @brandonmoreo
    @brandonmoreo 2 года назад

    My history teacher was related to general Beck I learned so much about general Beck and operation Valkyrie it's one of my favorite stories

  • @Lol-yj7wu
    @Lol-yj7wu 3 года назад

    The amount of charisma in the ridge wallet ad is unreal

  • @juancana5726
    @juancana5726 3 года назад +2

    I spent some time in the USN, and one central tenet in planning a mission is a backup plan. Further, if it was a 'high-value' target, then a SECOND backup plan would, of course, be created to gaurd against FUBAR that might put the kibosh on plans.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 2 года назад +1

      At this time, access to Hitler is very restricted.
      Germany itself shares a thing with other dictatorships, the threat of a palace coup. VALKYRIE itself is part of the coup defence. By having parallell institutions, it's harder to co-opt them all and for one to stage a coup itself.

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y 3 года назад +8

    I love today’s video. While I’m watching this video I’m feeling sad that this never happens in our timeline.

  • @uthmanrashid8989
    @uthmanrashid8989 3 года назад

    Damn... you sure have come far in the way of advertising. Hope you continue to make quality content despite being beholden to certain advertiser's interests.

  • @Yessir822
    @Yessir822 10 месяцев назад +2

    At the time of Operation Valkyrie there is no chance Germany holds onto anything East of Silesia. Soviets would never allow the Baltic states under German influence to sit there or allow Germany to remain largely untouched when the German armies in the East were virtually deatroyed after Operation Bagration

  • @Jetghostwolf
    @Jetghostwolf 2 года назад +5

    How different would Europe be had England accepted Germany’s 10 offers of peace/truce? Now that would be a proper what if alternate history.

  • @kaiserfranz1768
    @kaiserfranz1768 3 года назад +36

    What if Ernest Augustus became King of the U.K instead of Victoria?
    Ernest Augustus was the Duke of Cumberland and fifth son of King George III. Following the death of his elder brothers: George IV, Frederick Duke of York, William IV, and Edward Duke of Kent, the throne of the U.K passed to the deceased Duke of Kent's sole Child, Victoria (since none of the older siblings had any surviving legitimate issue) Meanwhile the Kingdom of Hanover which followed Salic law, passed to Ernest Augustus...thus ending 123 year long personal union between Hanover and Britain.
    But what if that Changed...
    What if Britain followed the Semi-Salic law that Hanover used or (more realistically) Victoria died while young and childless and was succeeded by Ernest Augustus? How would Britain and the world have developed differently under a strongly Conservative Monarch like Ernest Augustus?
    And Ernest's son and successor, George V, was king of Hanover during the Austro-Prussian war. Had George been King of the U.K as-well, would he have rekindled the historical Anglo-Austrian alliance against Prussia and how would that effect the outcome of the war?

    • @brennerthelegomaniac2102
      @brennerthelegomaniac2102 3 года назад

      How would've she died? And if so, did she die early in her reign or before she gained power? Because her assassinations occured during her reign.

  • @LordDungeonMaster
    @LordDungeonMaster 3 года назад +2

    You should do more alternate histories before the 19th century

  • @brainhakker7133
    @brainhakker7133 2 года назад

    Good stuff

  • @Edmonton-of2ec
    @Edmonton-of2ec 3 года назад +54

    There’s a reason Henning von Tresckow, Claus von Stauffenberg, Hans Oster and Carl Friedrich Goerdeler are my favourite Germans form the time. They got farther and closer then anyone else.

    • @justsomeguy7921
      @justsomeguy7921 3 года назад +8

      Those and Blaskowitz are my personal favorites (Johannes Blaskowitz is the guy I’m referring to- there’s some guy in some game with a shared last name). Them because of the same reason as you, and Blaskowitz because he was the only German officer to protest the SS’ actions to anyone with power (He did so before the camps existed- in 1940)

  • @codysodyssey3818
    @codysodyssey3818 3 года назад +8

    Usually I like or, at least, don't mind Mister Z's alternate histories but I gotta say that this one completely broke my suspension of disbelief post war. Assuming that Britain and France would give up their colonial empires while also giving a still unified Germany both colonies and Carte Blanche with it's military and eastern Europe just seems utterly farcical to me. Sure I get where he's coming from of just going with the provisional government getting everything it asked for: minute details are only entertaining to pedants. But still: giving up their empires when they have not one but two powerful rivals in Europe? I don't think so

  • @jw1343
    @jw1343 2 года назад

    Using ride of the valkeries as the music is very fitting

  • @cardinalhistory6973
    @cardinalhistory6973 3 года назад +2

    Less than 10k more subs till your at 100,000 lets go.

  • @thecoolone777
    @thecoolone777 3 года назад +13

    Hey great vid! Here's a interesting scenario, What if the United States was involved in the Napoleonic Wars?

    • @mrmeme9349
      @mrmeme9349 3 года назад +2

      Hey thats actually a really cool idea!

    • @yeetothecheeto5787
      @yeetothecheeto5787 3 года назад

      Which side would they be on?

    • @thecoolone777
      @thecoolone777 3 года назад +2

      Probably France because some people in France wanted to protect the French Revolution

    • @yeetothecheeto5787
      @yeetothecheeto5787 3 года назад

      @@thecoolone777: Then Britain would probably bring them back into the Empire.

    • @remigiuscaesar8307
      @remigiuscaesar8307 2 года назад +1

      Ever heard of the war of 1812?

  • @theodorkorner1497
    @theodorkorner1497 3 года назад +1

    My favorite alternate history scenario ☺

  • @darrylforsythe8924
    @darrylforsythe8924 3 года назад

    I love the parody ad in the middle hahaha

  • @hiddenwoodsben
    @hiddenwoodsben 2 года назад +1

    "to keep the union from becoming dominated by germany."
    and
    "...it might once again make a grab for continental power."
    worked like a charm.🙃

  • @burhan446
    @burhan446 3 года назад +5

    Clicked on this video as soon as I read this title

  • @jamesmason3687
    @jamesmason3687 3 года назад +5

    So a nationalist Germany teaming up with Rhodesia to fight colonial wars. Based

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 3 года назад +2

    I saw the Tom Cruise movie Valkyrie. It had top actors portraying these historic characters.

  • @thedigitalodometer945
    @thedigitalodometer945 3 года назад +1

    3:40 Nice one, Monsieur.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 3 года назад +15

    What if the US never invaded Grenada

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 3 года назад +14

    Loved the ad almost as much as the video 👌 I would wonder what if someone could manage to choke Hitler while he was on the ground after the explosion. This scenario seems the best way to end the regime and saving Germany, maybe even retaining Austria, but of course having to cede political and naval power. Maybe this was even better for Poland and the rest of central Europe. The bigger losers would be USA and USSR.

  • @maxgirst4112
    @maxgirst4112 3 года назад

    Where did you get the terms that the ploters had hopped for?

  • @gatorcroc7212
    @gatorcroc7212 3 года назад

    This guy reminds of me Cody from Alternative History. I like this content

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 3 года назад +6

    This was well timed, given that I‘m currently reading a book about an anti-Nazi German fellow from back in the day (Dietrich Bonhoeffer). Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊

  • @K9TheFirst1
    @K9TheFirst1 3 года назад +19

    One very important factor you neglected to address is what the response would be regarding... Certain camps.
    Also: What if the Hungarian Revolution of 1848 succeeded?

    • @gareginnzhdehhimself
      @gareginnzhdehhimself 3 года назад

      Occupying forces would liberate them and Germany would probably be forced to pay reparations to survivors.

    • @guardiadecivil6777
      @guardiadecivil6777 3 года назад +3

      they'll probably take it down not necessarily for moral reasons but due to the fact they're huge waste of resources. as to what will happen to the jews once they're free is unknown since they could either do nothing once they're out of the camps or possibly even join resistances if not form them for revenge, i assume some nazi loyalists would do mass executions before they're finally stopped by forces loyal to the new leadership though

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 3 года назад +1

      Lots of lawsuits. Germany would pay even more reparations even up to today

    • @aceambling7685
      @aceambling7685 3 года назад +3

      The camps would be emptied and the survivors given over to the allies. Well, those that manage to not get death marched by Nazi loyalists.

    • @die1mayer
      @die1mayer 3 года назад +4

      Just show a sanitized version like the film Theresienstadt and claim high mortality was caused by tuberculosis. If the Allies protest, question their camps (Soviet Gulag system was far more expansive and famine in Allied POW camps was severe).

  • @maxwelljw8400
    @maxwelljw8400 3 года назад +1

    For April fools next year, do a video focusing on Posadism

  • @thomasaquinas5262
    @thomasaquinas5262 3 года назад +2

    If the July 1944 attempt had succeeded, it's not crystal clear what might have happened. Yes, the oath they took would've been broken, but the plotters were so disorganized that a clean seizure of power wasn't guaranteed. Just to make it more opaque, according to Albert Speer, the 'other side' such as the SS were by no means as rabid as you might think. Speer gave the impression that they would wait and see who 'won' before they acted. The sad thing is, had the plotters been perfectly organized, they might've succeeded even with the attempt only partially successful. By that time, the army knew the war was lost...

  • @marcustonon4775
    @marcustonon4775 3 года назад +4

    i'm sorry, but if you don't think this would be the dream scenario to the end of ww2, we can't be friends

  • @zionmolina3039
    @zionmolina3039 3 года назад +12

    What if Hawaii remained a independent Kingdom and ethnically hemogenous with the Native Hawaiians being the majority of the Islands.

    • @indicimbecile6992
      @indicimbecile6992 3 года назад +5

      1.The Us remains isolationist during WW2 because no Pearl Harbor attack
      2. It becomes a puppet of the Us like Cuba and military bases are still built. Pearl Harbor still happens and the world is basically the same just with a new nation

    • @zionmolina3039
      @zionmolina3039 3 года назад

      @Will DeMarco sounds interesting

    • @zionmolina3039
      @zionmolina3039 3 года назад

      @The Nova renaissance I would think so too considering in our timeline they did consider annexing it into their Empire when it was still a independent nation.

  • @rosanirodrigues557
    @rosanirodrigues557 3 года назад +2

    What if Victoria Woodhull won the 1872/1876 presidential election?

  • @Jerre_Pelzig
    @Jerre_Pelzig 3 года назад

    Operation Valkyrie,
    Flight if the Valkyries playing in the background,
    I see what you did there.

  • @jamessaulsbury5934
    @jamessaulsbury5934 3 года назад +4

    Didn't Rommel have something to do with operation Valkyrie, or am I all wet on that?

    • @BlixtenPK
      @BlixtenPK 3 года назад

      thay pland to put him as head of state

  • @Barwasser
    @Barwasser 3 года назад +2

    The most important difference is that the Holocaust would have been far less severe as it ramped up in late 1944. Also post-war genocide of German civilians in the east would never have happened.

  • @nightdown1019
    @nightdown1019 3 года назад +1

    (Suggestion)alternative universe, the formation of the imperial federation

  • @heaterpistol6067
    @heaterpistol6067 2 года назад +1

    "What if Hitler WERE..." or "What if Hitler had been..." The Word "if" takes the subjunctive case.

  • @achistorian6978
    @achistorian6978 3 года назад +5

    What if America joined the League of Nations?

  • @barry3612
    @barry3612 3 года назад +4

    What if Germany and the allies had a prolonged armistice (akin to the north & south Korean situation) & or made peace after the Germans had taken France.

  • @copperhawkgames9263
    @copperhawkgames9263 3 года назад +1

    This one might have been done already but I’m not sure. What if Hitler was not spared by Henry Tandey

  • @teolechaczynski
    @teolechaczynski 3 года назад

    What map making software do you use?

  • @gonzalo731
    @gonzalo731 3 года назад +4

    We need a hoi4 timeline of this..

    • @guardiadecivil6777
      @guardiadecivil6777 3 года назад

      why not just play in one by doing the civil war focus or failing to invade chezchslovakia to the point the wehrmacht leadership starts a civil war

    • @gonzalo731
      @gonzalo731 3 года назад +1

      Combine Guard I’m talking about the post-war period of this timeline...

  • @rokball4892
    @rokball4892 3 года назад +5

    It’s too sad that this never happened....

    • @thedivide9559
      @thedivide9559 3 года назад +1

      Loxist

    • @the-letter_s
      @the-letter_s 3 года назад +1

      @@thedivide9559 where have i heard this before? I've forgotten

    • @thedivide9559
      @thedivide9559 3 года назад +1

      @@the-letter_s The most pervasive form of racial hatred comes to mind?

    • @the-letter_s
      @the-letter_s 3 года назад +1

      @@thedivide9559 oh shit right, thank you. i actually just forgot what the word meant. smart man.

  • @xxxtakaji-kaixxx9016
    @xxxtakaji-kaixxx9016 2 года назад +1

    Sniper elite players: don’t worry I got this bro.
    *shoots Hitler*
    Sniper elite player:see I told u.

  • @lhaley9873
    @lhaley9873 4 месяца назад +1

    It's possable a more skilled leader would come to power and the military would have made decisions that could have dragged the war out much longer.

  • @cirbam2747
    @cirbam2747 3 года назад +26

    What if the Great Union of Soviet Socialist Republics had taken Hitler as captive?

    • @asianlifter
      @asianlifter 3 года назад +21

      joseph shitalin would have a massive propaganda wave

    • @TheBlackAndDeckerBootyWrecker
      @TheBlackAndDeckerBootyWrecker 3 года назад +7

      Sodomy... Pure unadulterated sodomy.

    • @sgauden02
      @sgauden02 3 года назад +14

      I honestly don't think Stalin would've killed Hitler. That would be too MERCIFUL... I picture Stalin wanting to keep Hitler alive so that he would be forced to live with the knowledge that his "Master Race" was beaten by the Russians. Stalin would also probably want to PERSONALLY beat the crap out of Hitler himself, and VIDEOTAPE the whole thing to save the moment for a future viewing! Just imagine: Stalin taking pictures with a battered, and bruised Hitler, and saying "These will look great in the photo album!"

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 3 года назад +2

      @@sgauden02 What if Stalin was Captured by The German ?

    • @sgauden02
      @sgauden02 3 года назад +5

      @@savagedarksider5934Hitler may want to execute him personally, and probably would also record the event for prosperity.

  • @dari1510
    @dari1510 3 года назад +3

    "What if Tito killed Stalin"

  • @MitchMaker
    @MitchMaker 3 года назад +2

    Well..... at least i can be sure that in some of the infinite parallel universes, Stauffenberg had success.