The Worst War You Never Learned About
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Hi, Johnny loved this vid, been following you for years and I am happy you did story on Balkan area, hope you do story about Croatia too. :)
By the way, would you please list the sources for this video, this topic always fascinated me, specially how the west practically forgot what happened
It's amazing how interesting maps are, considering how boring it sounds like they would be to study.
The US bombed Serbia which was the real atrocity.
I lived in Bosnia during this war. Lost two uncles and remember heading to a giant meadow with my mum to identify her sisters husbands. It was a terrible conflict. My late father walked during bombing raids to UN bread lines to collect food and water and walked it back. He told me you never ran during a bombing raid because you didn't know if you'd run right into a falling shell, so you just walked, getting showered in debris and moving from building to building to avoid sniper fire. He had some really messed up stories about his experience. Thank you Johnny for shedding light on this, it really means to world to everyone who experienced this awful war.
Wow…incredible story about your father. Seems like he was such a strong man, I’m sure you’ve heard many stories!! Always cherish people that have seen more than you will in a lifetime❤️I hope he lived a long happy life looking back in these stories and awful times, thank you so much for sharing!
I talked to a Kosovan who worked for the UN during the Clinton administration. He told me stories about getting stopped at a Serbian road block and they told him they would rape his wife and basically told him they would give him a head start before they hunted him down and killed him. I thought it was crazy because this is the kind of stuff that so obviously goes against the geneva convention. A lot of Americans talk shit on Bill Clinton but anyone who lived through those wars is certainly grateful to him and it may have been the last time that american intervention abroad was truly benevolent.
Thx for sharing
Incredible story, thanks for sharing.
Takes “parents way to school” seriously
I had a professor, his name gave away that he was Bosnian so he was put into a labor camp cutting down trees mostly. After some time he was let go. Later he was taken to another labor camp and forced to dig trenches, he acted as a guard and escaped with a fake ID and lived in Belgrade until the war ended. He told us “And that was my first performance” and that that performance was the start for his love of acting, and the arts.
WHY CAN'T BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA BE A UNITARY MULTI-ETHNIC COMMUNITY...?
Bosnia and Herzegovina was a multi-ethnic community in Yugoslavia - while the cohesive strength of the community came from self-governing worker (class...!) consciousness, which was: above all religious and national consciousness.
In such circumstances: where the dominant form was social ownership of the means of production, and the main production relationship: SELF-MANAGEMENT, it was easy to build multi-ethnic relations and multiculturalism: which was reflected in film, sports and especially in music, where it manifested itself the most...!
With the introduction of capitalist relations and private property as the dominant form in the economy, where PROFIT is the main driver of everything and not satisfying the NEEDS OF CITIZENS, political relations are radically changed, where the existing multi-ethnic and multicultural community is legally disintegrating, because this "new" is now based on : A MULTI-PARTY POLITICAL SYSTEM, where each ethnic group legally creates its own political party... And they are no longer bound by CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS and affiliation, but exclusively by NATIONAL or RELIGIOUS (both in politics, culture, economy, security and sports...!)
Any attempt in such (bourgeois...) circumstances, to establish some kind of UNITARY COMMUNITY, inevitably leads to the domination of one nation and therefore to conflict within such an artificial (forced...) community, and finally, to the inevitable... - WAR...!
I will prove to you with a very simple question, that Muslims from Bosnia are ESSENTIALLY the instigators of the war in BiH...!
"If TOMORROW ALL SERBS from Republika Srpska were to collectively convert from Orthodoxy to Islam, would you - shoot them"...?
Answer me....? If you have a "hertz"...?
If you say: that you would not shoot the Serbs, if they collectively convert to Islam: THAT MEANS - THAT YOU did not like the multi-ethnic and multicultural Bosnia that existed in the SFRY and that you are: 100% responsible for the outbreak of war in Bosnia...!
If you say: That you would still shoot at the Serbs... - it only means that you are a FASCIST society and a fascist TOTALITARIAN community, which does not know how to organize economic life in Bosnia and Herzegovina on the principles of democratic principles, and that is why you NEED ROBBERY of other peoples and their economic and financial resources.
So...?
Are you the instigators of war in BiH...? The answer is: YES...! Muslims are the instigators of war in BiH...!
@@milosmilosic2632
You sond just like every "peace keeper" I ever heard .
Just admit it
They are Christian so you veiw theme as the good guys regardless of evidence 🙄
Stop pretending to be unbiased.
I am biased too but I don't lie about it
@@milosmilosic2632 The Bosnian Serbs should be deported to Serbia.
@@milosmilosic2632 your comment is too much bs for me to bother reading so ill just answer ur question at the begining. the reason it isnt as unitary as it was in yugoslavia is becouse the whole country was held together by Tito. as soon as Tito died in 1980 thing started going downhill and everyone started descending into extreme nationalism wich eventually lead to the wars
(and this isnt me praising tito or anything im not the biggest fan of his at all its just the truth)
@@milosmilosic2632 holding socialist yugo together was not easy lol. Tito could be brutal and ruthless when he needed to be. So if u think having someone locked away or killed for an opinion is acceptable, then yea it was easy
Next to my apartment in Germany, there is a small pub. - Owner is Albanian, Customers are Croats, Serbian, Bosnian, Greek and Turkish. We all live in peace, we all celebrate together. They have left the battles of their fathers at home and decided to finally start again with love and joy for their shared food, often the language and culture. I am amazed every single day I pass this pub. It's called Arians Pub (named after the owners son Arian) and it is in Hamburg. The most amazing gathering of Balkan states.
Can you please tell me the name of a pub.I am going to Hamburg for euro 2024 so Im probably gonna go often to the fan zone
@@svendankic8589 Arian's Pub - Adress: Stellinger Weg 20, 20255 Hamburg
They got many beers from Germany, France, Belgium, England. Really good inventory. Price is also good, compared to the touristic area.
@@svendankic8589 if you search Arian's pub, Hamburg on google earth there's only one result i think that's it
Dear MiladJP, this proves that every war is just a trick, becuase people naturally come togedher and help each other, thank you for sharing the same opinion as many of us in former Yogoslavia’s people.
Yes this is what is the truth not the people that are spreading hate and lies, because the war in Yugoslavia was manufactured, there is a French general he made confession before he died, Germany wanted to revenge serbs because of the ww and to split Yugoslavia because it was to powerfull, so they planted seeds into croats and muslims to turn against the serbs…and they waited for Tito to die…that was their plann and untill this day we all can see the truth that this confession was accurate…Germany untill this day isn’t satisfied they aren’t done with Serbia they want to kill the serbian soul to…but you can’t do that because we know the truth
I’m a survivor of this war and I also lost two uncles during the conflict and it’s amazing how useless UN is and was allowing thousands of people to be murdered. The world never seems to learn lessons and change foreign policy.
They do say they're peacekeepers, at whatever the cost. They definitely wouldn't of survived though if they got involved in the fighting
How useless is Alija after withdrawing Lisabon agreement
Mass tragedy happens
Dont help
Issue an apology the next generation 30 years later
UN peacekeeping
Its like UN did not help in Bosnian war 😢😡🤬
As an American, the people who did care was the special forces that apprehended the war criminals that were responsible for the atrocities that were committed by those animals. We Americans have said this for years: THE UN IS A JOKE
I was part of that. We 'the dutch' were send on a mission with basic weapons and mostly transport vehicles and no tanks. Therefor my trust is gone in the UN and my government. Recently they apologized after 27 years. I was 19 and a lot of soldiers were around that age. So nowadays I'm really upset when people promote the army or war. It's all a game and we're just collateral. there is no bravery in war, just foolishness
War is hell. I detest warmongers. I tell my son never to listen to old men or women banging war drums. Won't be them in the fox hole. They preach in safety. F em. And F the corrupt media/politicians easing the way for bankers wars.
I've seen much bravery in war. Just not from those in governments.
there is bravery in defending the weak. Sadly Netherlands and UN failed at that and that shame will never go away.
There is bravery in war, you feel it when you defend the defenceless or you could have felt it if UN would truly stand behind its goals and intentions. Blood of Srebrenica is on UN's hands too
Unbelievable. They’ve arranged the conflict and sent some 19 yo soldiers to pretend they are trying to stop it. And then of corse, the American’s with the cavalry to save the day, Uranium bombs on schools and hospitals, bridges getting blasted while a train full of people is passing, planes dropping on cities full of civilians and all that.. Disgusting!
They just found my coworkers brother body in a mass grave and has finally just been identified after being missing for decades. It was heartbreaking having a woman in her 60s crying on your shoulder.
*shoulder?
@@shonenjumpmagneto yes thank you voice to text will do that
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*May Allah Almighty have mercy upon him, and give her pleasure, amiin yaa Hu*
My mother and father are both Bosnians, my father escaped in the beginning of the war, my mom stayed for 1 or 2 years, having to escape through an underground tunnel, seeing much of the atrocities and death, she was 12.
disii Lipaa moja Simpatična Bosankoo, a sto lijepo stoji crna bujna kosa, krasno, cime se zanimas inace, odakle su tvoji?
@@JamesHunt19761
Kakvi su ovo Bosnci sve Japanci i Amerikanci ?
I ti isto James...
Koji ste vi?
Name of tunnel your mom escaped is Tunnel of life-Tunel spasa
My ex was a part of this. The stories he told were horrific. I will never forget the things he told me. Absolutely awful. Neighbour against neighbour. Neighbours that lived next to each other for decades became enemies.
I am English, with all the Slavic features, so blend in with that lot. I was in Mostar around 9 years ago. We were in a cafe, and the owner was totaling up the bill. I couldn't understand what he was saying, so asked him in Croatian to speak Hrvatski. We were on the Croatian side of the river, but the hatred in his expression upon hearing my request was unbelievable. That hatred goes back for countless generations. You can suppress it, but it is instilled in the kids. Just like religion.
Both Sarajevo and Mostar still had the bombed out buildings, and other structures full if bullet holes from 30 years before. They can't be bothered to fix the damage. If anyone is interested in disaster tourism, Bosnia it's a good country to visit.
As someone who’s been in Bosnia during this mess I can assure you that war is very much scarier than anything I’ve ever experienced
I feel sorry wish you all the best
因为有穆斯林，所以有战争
Are you Bosnia native?
I feel sorry for the civilians. So unnecessary war. In the end all parties had to sit down and agree to a deal. I wish that deal would have come in 1991.
@@vendetta4640
How sorry exactly you feel?
Enough to provide pictures of you protesting against war in Bosnia?
Or showing copy of paycheck you sent Red Cross to help civilians?
As a Bosnian, who witnessed firsthand and survived these events, I can say that in this rather short video, Johnny , you painted the picture pretty well. It brings tears to my eyes. Thanks
As a Serb it saddens me how peoples lives were ruined by my country.
He said it was complicated story .. it’s not every time Muslims are the victims of crime ppl say it’s complicated
Don’t agree with you.
Yea he forgot to mention a lot of unimportant details for west. For example what mujahideens from Arabic countries were doing there when Nato, UN and USA were there also, and how mujahideens arrived, who bring them and how many left after. Also what he didn’t say is why someone who don’t want to be part of some country in this case Yugoslavia want to keep boarders created by same Yugoslavia communist regime. And why someone is allowed to separate from Yugoslavia and again others can’t separate from newly separated regions? What would happened in case that south USA states want to brake out USA to be independent and also not just that but to take boarders USA create as new boards of country plus to forbid any group that want to be part of USA to stay as part of it? Probably USA or any other country would stand still and watch that…There is a lot of questions he, i guess, miss not intentionally.
@@Taurunum he forgot to mention that th serbs were worse than the nazi's a genocide is not complicated
I'm really glad to see that someone of your breadth and capacity is working on this topic, it really shows how versatile you are.Thank U
My father and some uncles were in the war fighting on the Bosnian side . I was born early 96 and we escaped to America when I was 4. I’m so grateful everyday that they made it out alive … but you can tell it changed them forever
I remember being a 10 yr old in Pakistan and seeing a sudden surge of people who didnt look like me on the streets. A lot of Bosnians were airlifted to Pakistan during the war between 1992 and 1995. I saw mostly women. They were traumatized by what the war had done to them. Housed in refugee camps in Rawalpindi and Islamabad. I dont remember much more about them apart from the fact that they were great people who deserved better. Sending love and peace to the people of Bosnia and Herzegovina!
We had a Pakistani UN base in my hometown in the 1993, I met some of them in my school as I was a kid at the times during the siege. I still remember them playing Pakistani traditional songs on bagpipes (I'm not sure how you call those instruments in Pakistan). I guess it's part of the British heritage? In any case, Love to Pakistan from a Bosniak.
Pakistani war crime and atrocities in Bangladesh, 1971 should be addressed - a Bangladeshi muslim.
People did horrific stuff to each other in those days, absolute monsters that showed their true face in war especially Serbian Četnik's.
Yougoslavia is the perfect example of a shite storm
You guys did the same with Bangladesh before 1971 specially Hindu bangladeshis
As a young child, I spent the entire duration of the war in Bosnia. My mother, who was in her early twenties at the time, and I were constantly on the move, seeking shelter from the relentless bombings. I vividly recall waiting in line for aid from the Red Cross and having to flee from their bombs.
One night, my father, who was also in his twenties and deployed on the front line, returned to us. However, my mother did not recognize him at first due to the hardships we had endured. Despite being a Bosniak, my father's best friends were a Serb and a Croat, which further emphasizes the tragic divide that the war had created.
The aftermath of the war was also challenging for us. Food shortages were rampant, and my father's salary was paid in one bag of groceries per month instead of money. To supplement our food supply, we went on frequent fishing trips to a nearby river. These fishing trips are among the few memories from that time that I recall with a smile.
Nadam se da ste svi na broju i zdravo. Živio!
I grew up in Mostar at that time. Similar story but different, I hope you and your family are doing well these days. We made it out alive, brother.
u was not 'bosniak'. u were jugoslavian muslims.
I can't help but think of Hitlers strategy to destroy the east in order to make space for Germans...being continued here. The EU one Reich one Führer... It's sad.
Serbia.. oh yes. ruclips.net/video/GjnyRdwNkYw/видео.html
Thank you for explaining this I remember seeing this on the news a lot when I was a kid but never fully understood it. This was like watching one of those Metal Gear backstory vids.
Crazy how Tito kept all this under wraps for as long as he did.
Ummm. You know Tito died in 1980. He was one of the greatest leaders this planet has ever seen and the ultimate truth is the people under him and around him loved him. (Awards and decorations received by Josip Broz Tito - wikipedia page). After his death the Serbian monsters started to plan the Greater Serbia. When the Croatians saw that the Serbs were ethnically cleansing Bosnians they started operation Storm in 1995. The Croatians cleansed the Serbs that didn't want to leave Croatia and kicked out about 300,000 Serbs out of their country. Unfortunately the Bosnians were not prepared and were taken by surprise. My mother is from a village called Čarakovo which is about 4 kilometers away from Prijedor. She told me how a friend that lived in the same village and went to school with them (Serbian) was dragging other Bosnians from their homes and killing the men the first day the war started. Somehow the Serbs had a plan and all the necessary equipment, while the Bosnians had no clue and were surprised. You can read about the Prijedor ethnic cleansing - on wikipedia.
Serbia never wanted bigger state no one from Serbia want that that is just BS.the army was protecting people from croats and muslims who wanted ethnically clear state.
@@memoraisedone4415Genocide In Bosnia - Holocaust Museum Houston type this into google. Bosnian war - Wikipedia, type this into google. Greater Serbia - wikipedia.. I'm in Prijedor (Bosnia) right now as I'm writing this. Prijedor ethnic cleansing - wikipedia... Take a walk all across the Balkans and ask who started the war and who suffered the most. It was the Serbs who started the war because of the Greater Serbia ideology and started to ethnically cleanse the muslims. Stop lying, facts are facts. Tyrants always want to be seen as victims.
@@memoraisedone4415 Stop lying. Genocide In Bosnia - Holocaust Museum Houston type this into google. Bosnian war - Wikipedia, type this into google. Greater Serbia - wikipedia.. I'm in Prijedor (Bosnia) right now as I'm writing this. Prijedor ethnic cleansing - wikipedia... Take a walk all across the Balkans and ask who started the war. It was the Serbs who started the war because of the Greater Serbia ideology and started to ethnically cleanse the muslims. Stop lying, facts are facts. Tyrants always want to be seen as victims.
@@memoraisedone4415 Stop lying. Genocide In Bosnia - Holocaust Museum Houston type this into google. Bosnian war - Wikipedia, type this into google. Greater Serbia - wikipedia.. I'm in Prijedor (Bosnia) right now as I'm writing this. Prijedor ethnic cleansing - wikipedia... Take a walk all across the Balkans and ask who started the war. It was the Serbs who started the war because of the Greater Serbia ideology and started to ethnically cleanse the muslims. Stop lying, facts are facts. Tyrants always want to be seen as victims.
As a former soldier I spent over a year there in 95/96. It was horrific. I had witnessed war firsthand but what I saw there was just appalling. This awakens memories best left asleep.
When you were there when it was over😊
@@zlocerekzlo2254 yes, but obviously what he saw after was disgusting
Joe Biden has dementia
You were late to the fight. Most of my wifes family, and hundreds of thousands of others, were already gone from the country and spread across the globe.
where are you from and whose side did you fight for?
UN - United nothing.
TRUE
I was in Bosnia in 2003, and the international companies that were there to build up after the war did nothing but cause high unemployment with the younger people. Work for the Army as a contractor or starve.
@@hpillsbury06 Damn :C
Or ..Useless Nation's
USA should stop sending funds to the UN, and watch how quickly the whole thing crumbles
I can tell you in The Netherlands we definitely learned about this war and the horrific events that played incl. the overrunning of the Dutchbat safe-zone.
It blows my mind about about so many of these videos about conflicts that people have supposedly never heard of. I don't know if it has something to do with me being at advanced classes in high school or more likely being a national where we have huge Diaspora populations of former refugees, but this war was covered in my school and a good quarter of my class were Bosnian. We learned about Armenia as well and several other conflicts. I am always surprised other people dont know about some of these crazy things.
A lot Bosnians moved to St. Louis MO cause of this war. I hate the reason they moved here, but I love their community in the area. I've always worked with someone from Bosnia, they have always been fantastic, caring and loving people. Their stories have broken my heart countless times.
I'm Bosnian who lives in the US but I've never been to St. Louis. How is it nowadays, is it a nice place to visit? I'm thinking about a road trip across the Midwest this summer and was thinking of stopping by in St. Louis for some Bosnian food :)
@@libertas5005 St. Louis is a complicated little city. statistically we have high crime but it's concentrated to very small areas so it sways the stats very heavily. The area's with a higher concentration of Bosnian are safe and don't have any increased crime problems. South St. Louis is where a lot of Bosnian specific stores are, like Afton, Lemay, Mehlville, Bella Villa, Wilbur Park, Lakeshire. those neighborhoods would probably be a treat for you. Hell the population is high enough that they convinced MLS to build a stadium and we now have a soccer team, all because of our Bosnian population. I'm so damn glad I get to live in the same area as them. the US could and should do more for refugees, it's been nothing but positives for the last 30 years. they're the backbone to so many industries here. Every contractor and electrician I've ever hired has been a Bosnian, and they've never disappointed.
@@Meatsweats_o_O I am from Bosnia moved here 1995 lived in Sarajevo witnessed all of it now in USA in Atlanta Georgia but visit St.Louis often as I have Bosnian friends there. Atlanta Georgia has a lot of Bosnians as well.
What a ridicuIous popagandish video. "Women were sent to prison camps", women were never sent to prison camps in Bosnia atIeast not by serbs. Another NGO weSStern stooge trying to stir the fire with aII the popaganda in the ongoing situation in Ukraine
my parents moved to swiss, i didnt knew theres a bosnian community in usa lol
I find it absolutely insane that people outside of Europe aren't aware of the Bosnian civil war. I'm Scottish, and here in Europe it was massive news when it happened (I wasn't alive to see that though). I personally know people who fought there, such as my friend's father. Absolutely terrible conflict, let's hope it never gets repeated
I find it insane that people actually don’t know about this war. I’m Ghanaian from Africa and even i know about the war. I thought everyone did. Its one of the greatest Genocides in modern history along with the holocaust and the Rwandese genocide. I thought everyone knew this basic aspect of world history.
cista agresij
It was not a civil war but an agression on the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina!!
@@RoniForeva This video Is copy pasting articles from Wikipedia. If you need info about genocide in Bosnia, then Norwegian documentary "Srebrenica town betrayed" is much better choice.
@@DjordjeDjurkovic thank you. No offense to this RUclipsr but he didn’t really say anything outside the basic facts that most people that have a high level understanding of the war knows.
Been there. Saw the scars on the streets and hearts. Such a complicated war. But aren’t they all 💔
I remember in my teenage, My cousin had those VHS tapes that contained footage of the violence during this war, and it stuck with me till this day..Truly a Failure for humanity!
I had a teacher who served as an UN peacekeeper and the stories he told us were chilling
It is really a shame dutch government never apologized for that incident, never even accepted any responsibility! Their whole purpose of being in Bosnia was defending innocent civilians but i guess it wasn't for dutch soldiers rather they were tourists playing UN peacekeepers, what a shame truly...
@@ggoddkkiller1342 yep, seen what they did, or better to say didn't do in Vukovar. While they were chit-chating with the serbs to stop attacking the hospital, the other serbs took people away from there just to commit genocide later. Truly sad
@@ggoddkkiller1342 The UN is worthless. It needs to be abolished. All it does is make things worse.
@@ggoddkkiller1342 So they were supposed to shoot at the Serbs who were 7-8x more?
@@petralozancic6713 Ovčara was truly horrible, they even killed a french men, I think he’s name was Jean Michel Nicolier
My mother explained it like this...."just Imagine drinking coffee with your neighbour and the other day the neighbour completely ignores you and wants to kill you"
People now are like"now it's all good we alle like each other now" no it's not, the hate within the people who experienced that will never go away.
It's trauma, war brings nothing but trauma.
It a 100 year long hate, very complicated, started with Jasenovac, ended with Srebrenica
都是穆斯林的错
@@worlddd7777it started way before Jasenovac and hasn't ended yet.
@@_neXose Yes, it started at beginning of 20 century actually
It started during ottoman era with Omer Paša Latas who was a serb who sold out his own religion just to gain power and to eliminate Bosniak elite and intellectuals @@worlddd7777
I first became interested in this war when I found Roman Bartetzko’s Quora account, followed him, and read about his experiences in the Kosovo Liberation Army and Croatian Defense Council. Being an American, I never really heard about this war before, and reading Roman’s answers about the conflict really opened up my mind. So, here I am at 7am after staying up a full night learning about this war.
Glad to hear that you learn about an important part of europes history!
Being in the military myself, I know a lot of old dogs that consider Bosnia a one way ticket to PTSD. Thats basically the only thing everyone got from that tour. Watching human beings being slaughtered and not being able to do anything about it
I was scrolling through the comments looking for this.
My marine buddy was deployed there at the time and only opened up about it a decade later. iirc, he made a dark joke about calling it Operation Human Shield (ie we were just put there for watching awful things happen and being told not to do, or having to ask permission to do, what they were trained to do).
I was aware it was a confusing geopolitical mess, but wasn’t there. So that’s the anecdote I have from someone who was there from the US military minus the gory stuff he witnessed/experienced.
He said “We were basically dropped off unarmed and all alone to take shots for politicians”, or something like that.
@@KUsery42 That's because it was all orchestrated that way. Not the atrocities, but the war was allowed to happen, matter of fact was instigated. Just like today's Ukraine. Only people today have internet and are less gullible.
Yup my dad was there for NATO - this is what he told me
I went to Bosnia and Kosovo in 2001 as an AFE performer for troops stationed there. It was a heavy place even then. The conflict was over but the sheer scope of destruction and horror was palpable. I meet many troops who had been there when things were BAD. I was 19 at the time and the experience changed my outlook on many things. Grateful for our military men and women’s service.
Only thing that un forces in Bosnia did was just standing and watching all crimes all around you
When I visited Bosnia with my family, my dad showed me a vhs tape taken on an old camcorder. The video was taken by a close friend of my dads. He was inside his house, filming as the bombs fell just a couple hundred feet away. They were targeting farms and food stores in the area, trying to starve out the inhabitants. After the bombing subsided he left the house and ran over to a shed nearby. My dad was outside the shed, laughing from shock. He then pointed towards a massive hole in the ground just a couple yards away. A shell had landed a mere 20 feet from the shed, knocking my dad off his feet. If he had been just a bit closer, he would have been blown to bits, and I would not be here today.
It a miracle he survived the war with all his limbs intact. As this was not the only near death experience he's told stories about.
George Washington used that same tactic to wipe out the Native Americans in New York. He was called "Town Destroyer" or Conotocaurius. Its the same nickname that was given to his genocidal grandfather. We also used that tactic in Russia at the end of WW1 in 1918/19, starving the Jews and Slavs (Bolsheviks) during their civil war. Did the same in the Philippines, set up death camps- nearly a million died around the year 1900. Also the same in Iraq, another million civilians killed in 2003, accordng to the ORB estimate. That was "shock and awful"
Your country is accustomed to living off slaves, with servants bowing down to them. That is the main difference between Russians and you. Russians have neighbors, partners, friends... a wide range of collaborators depending on the status of their relationship, suitable or not for certain joint actions to some extent. Russia's joint actions with a partner are based on certain needs. This doesn't mean that Russia is incapable of doing something on its own, but sometimes it's nicer to work with a friend or someone more experienced and learn from them. The eventual gains from that joint action are distributed proportionally to the strength/efforts of both partners. The one who has done more and is stronger receives more, while smaller partners receive less due to their smaller capabilities and efforts, according to agreed-upon contracts... and not a millimeter less than the agreed-upon agreement.
In the West, you have allies, and you are all similar or speak a similar language. Most of you had colonies and slaves everywhere. That connects most of you as something common. You do love slavery; it can be felt even if you have changed the form of servitude. You have been looking down on the rest of the world for far too long. Instead of being our sincere guides towards something better and friends we wanted to have and admired, you decided to deceive us, enslave us, and use us as disposable material for your colored revolutions to divide us among ourselves, to destroy our countries and heritage, to change our history in elementary school textbooks. You destroyed us with lies and deception. You killed humanity and everything sacred that was within us for the sake of your profit. That's what sets you apart from the Russians, and that's why you have a problem with Russia.
my dad was stuck in sarajevo when the war started, he was a soldier and later ended up working for the UN, till he was captured and held at gunpoint by someone he want to preschool with, and then traded alongside his colleagues for 2 barrels of oil, and was brought to the U.S where he met my mom. (who was also a bosnian refugee) I was born and grew up in the US dont even speak bosnian that well and grew up far away from most of my extended family, ive heard my parents horrible stories but I want to learn more about what happened and get more connected with my parents home country :( my aunt on my moms side was from srebrenica tho and both of her parents died in it, which i can hardly even imagine how that must have been.
I'm so sorry to hear that, hope your family are doing well.
My parents met in the US Army in Germany on leave from Bosnia. They said that the people were very thankful for the Americans stepping in and helping them. My dad told me he was stationed on a mountain and there were orphans that lived there. He said his favorite part of being over there was giving those kids soda, candy and playing soccer with them.
bosnian started war. actualy usa started it against serbia. soo dont talk bulshit!
I am sorry that I need to tell you the true, but USA is our enemy as much as Serbia is dude. First they put embargo on us, imagine doing emabrgo on people who are unarmed... crazy right? Then when we finally started to get on out feet, when we got into Banja Luka, guess what? USA stopped us and said that they are going to bomb us if we keep progressing...
u just saw video, don't act delusional, watch it again if you couldn't grasp it first time@@SuperDjavol
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America start War, and they coming like saviors 😂
Never would I expect an episode on the Bosnian war. I recently travelled to Bosnia last month to report on what happened on the ground- and after visiting Srebrenica itself, seeing it as a ghost town, witnessing the hundreds of serb flags perched over the spots which the Bosniaks were massacred on and speaking with genocide survivors, I can safely say Johnny's video has done justice to this catastrophe, so from the bottom of my heart and those of Bosnia, thank you for covering this. May we learn from the lessons of this dark chapter.
Yes nationalism is really bad
@Zaydan Alfariz Bosnia is closer to another war than it's to being a member of European Union. It's sad state of affairs, but it's true. Right as we speak, the Serb side is provoking immediate political instability in the country with the refusal to honor the verdicts, and with the trying to take over jurisdictions from higher levels
Sadly Bosnian politics aren’t great. So it’s an incredible place with incredible people.
But it’s a slower progress than their neighbours and they’re really struggling with inflation at the moment as well. With limited government support to help.
I know a lot of people very frustrated and it’s very common for people to emigrate to Germany for better prospects. For many political issues it then feeds to the lack of regulation in place that is in line with EU needed to join.
@Zaydan Alfariz Bosnia recently got their candidate status accepted, so on paper they have the same status as Albania although Albania is closer
Sounds like what is going on now with Russia and Ukrainian???
I have a buddy who was a Delta operator. He went all over, Iraq, Mogadishu, and he said the worst things he saw, the most inhumane things, was during this conflict.
Want us to be buddy
Ah yes, The City of Iraq & The Nation of Mogadishu.
@@shonenjumpmagneto lol
So he was there for Black Hawk down and this
Layers
I'm so so happy this came up on my recommended because I was just learning about genocides in history class and this was one of the mass genocides we were learning on, but seriously this should be taught more in schools because I never knew about this before.
There is a urban exploring video that shows the Sarajevo winter Olympic games facilities. It captures this point in time quite well. Very sad and mournful feel to the overgrown and forgotten building that were state of the art at the time. Covered in old bullet holes and destroyed. Nature starting to cover it all again. Crazy to think of all the people that were once there before the war... (Country Urbex if I recall)
It always blows my mind how many people don’t really know just how intense this conflict was and how it wasn’t that long ago.
But then people ask me to explain it and I’m like “oh man…how do I even begin about this?”
Definitely one of the hardest conflicts to break down even for anybody who loves history. Amazing job.
I didn't know you were interested in this stuff... amazing!
Never knew you shared an interest in History too, you have my respect.
I was a baby when this was new but I was taught about it in basic history lessons
People also seem to forget to talk about the successful military intervention of the war.
You kidding? Easiest thing to explain in the world. Serbias president/dictator wanted to create a greater Serbia so he attacked Croatia and Bosnia. The europeans helped him by slapping bosnia with an illegal arms embargo and un troops that were potential hostages and gave serbia leverage on nato so they could attack, kill and rape the people of Srebrenica. When serbia was attempting the same thing on Bihac Croatia and Bosnia teamed up and kicked Serbias ass. To bad the USA pressured Bosnia to the stupid partition of Bosnia. Replika sepska must go.
My mom is Bosnian, my dad is dutch, I’m born in the US
My mom was an exchange student in the US when the war broke out, overnight her passport was worthless and at 18 she was a war refugee in the United States. It’s remarkable how I get emotional just by watching this video - even though I wasn’t even alive at the time - the sadness, it’s cross generational - that’s the real impact of war.
I can ever forget the Dutch peacekeepers watching silently as Bosnians were killed.
@@huntermosely7420 I can, they were barely armed and unmatched in numbers. Get real
Thats really cool. Only Dutch Bosnian i know is #johnnyx100
@@Youaretrapped yeah sure
@@marshmelows they shouldnt have gone there in the first place. This was payback since the great Illyrian revolt. We never wanted to join your P. To the Edophile New World Freemasonic Order and kept resisting it multiple times throughout history. Pay attention you Spanish/Moroccan b to the astard.. you're watching a people of God resist your satanic leadership.
Thank you for doing a video on this conflict. My dad was in the UN and served as a peacekeeper during this. It was intesting to see it in such a way, using the maps makes it easier to understand.
It would be awesome if you could include month/year markers in the corner of the screen for the major events in summaries like these - these are really great explanations but I think including specific timelines as the events are being explained could make these videos even more cohesive.
First I heard about the war when I was a young interpreter during a UN mission. Bosnian women were telling the stories of sexual violence they suffered at the hand of soldiers and some were in front of their children. There were rape camps for women. I was not able to sleep for several days after hearing about the details of such atrocities. My heart goes out to all the women who suffered such violation and protected their children and went on to look for their men after the war. More people should learn about this war as it confirms how ethnically motivated conflicts arise and tear apart diverse societies.
Ethnically motivated comes only after CORRUPTION has happened, and major players (Western and Russian rich) have bought local politicians to divide and conquer.
Yugoslavia left in so much debt after president Tito died.
Debt collectors figured out to destroy the country and then install own "peace makers" and corporations to benefit in rebuilding process.
Same thing happened to each side, but some of the spokespersons were "cancelled" as the US needed an excuse to get involved (which was their original plan, as the CIA stirred up the conflict) and rob all of the countries of their national resources.
faik west
@@miodrag0078 What are you going to do about it?
@@miodrag0078jesi kupio novi traktor?
As a Bosnian and someone who survived this horrible war I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this episode ❤💙💛. P.s. Fun fact: Bosnia is often called The Heart Shaped Land.
They will pay for what they have done...its a matter of time.
Wont forget ....Wont forgive
I'm sorry for what happened in Bosnia, I love Bosnian people and hope you guys stay well. Are u still in Bosnia?
@@jioboy2676 Yes. They will stand before God for their actions, no doubt about that
@@theunbeatable6598 Yes I am, and I'm encourage you to visit Sarajevo, you will not regret it ;)
@@nuraH1 Definitely, its on my list for sure In Sha Allah. How are u guys holding up?
Two maths teachers at my school(one of them currently teach me)were from Bosnia and their father had been sent to concentration camp during the war. This resulted in them seeking refuge in the UK as refugees from political violence, and myself being an immigrant from HK to UK in 2019 (you probably know what happened), I realise my situation is a lot less worse and can not imagine the trauma the brothers experienced (remember they were only in their early to late teens when they left the country). Remember Srebrenica
Thank you for sharing this story John.
I Grew up in this war as a kid, actually in the Center of bosnia and felt this war close to me and my family.
Honestly the story is quite true, but we will NEVER know the real story behind this war and WHO actually started it. (it might be one of the most complicated ones)
God bless you all .
I wish there was peace on this planet
I'm Congolese, but I have a few ex-Yougoslavian friends (Bosnia, Serbie and Croatia), what my Bosnian friends (and parents) told me about that war was horrific. It's strange how people who could live with each other, look a like, ear the same food...and still be able to kill each other.
Fortunately, the war is over, but both side lost so much for...what?
I hope to visit Bosnia one day, as I have met great people from that country.
These activities occur in Africa all the time.
@@0816M3RC but is that the subject?
Politicians gradually fill civilians with so much poison and hate, especially in the eyes of Nationalism or Religion, that a person loses his humanity, and becomes worse than a beast.
@@0816M3RC make a video about it.
There are many bad things that the ethnic groups mentioned in the video committed against each other before Yugoslavia was a thing. However many still lived relatively normal, but there was many things behind the scene because of this. And this type of thing is still common today. An example can be in the Central African Republic. Same thing with Muslims and Christians against each other. People live peacefully until some group manages to trick the majority into chaos.
This is a topic that is hard to put into a 15min video. It is very nuanced and complicated. I'm from one of the "safe zones", the town of Gorazde. The stuff my parents and my siblings went through is unimaginable. My fathers first wife was a Bosnian Serb, and she died from Serb shell right in front of my dad. Maybe I wouldn't have been born if there wasn't this war, but I would still take not being born over monstrosities that happened during that time and in my hometown. Sad part is, this country will probably never heal and go forward from this war. We are still stuck in it. We are still stuck 30 years in the past.
For a 16 min video, this was really good. But there is so much detail that it could easily be a one hour video. This was a big story even in the US throughout the 90's. This and the collapse of the USSR are two foreign news I probably remember the most in the 90's.
This is mindbogling spin. Milosevid died during his trial, he was never convicted of anything and would by all acounts not have been convicted of genocide. No mention of the largest ethnic cleansing in the war, of entire Serbian poputation of Krajina, in Oluja that he mentions. Srebrenica did have armed muslims, plenty of them who fled through the woods and were captured, and for years were killing Serbs around Srebrenica, in christmas massacre and many other. No mention of that at all, in fact he outright lies about that. So one sided, unseen level of bias on the topic, watch any other video about the war to see how much this is outright dishonest take.
@@pepefrogic3034 not the first time he does it. His video on Navalnyi was a fraud, most of his videos on Ukrainian conflict are inaccurate onesided bullshit. He's good for creating a palatable, easy to believe stories and he's being used for that by third parties, no doubt
@@mayamodraf the video literally mentions atrocities / war crimes committed on all sides. It then mentioned that the UN or whatever human rights group is mentioned in the video said what the Serbs did was just worse.
Never get rid of your guns
I just got assigned to cover this topic in class.... (well he just wrote "Former Yugoslavia Conflict") I was so confused by everything I read and this really helped! thanks!!
I was a Canadian UN peacekeeper and served there 92/93/94 and 2002/03. This was a difficult video to watch as I had a ringside seat to the siege of Sarajevo. You have to include Croatia this video as the UN didn’t see a difference between the war in either region. Both OP STORM/LIGHTING had a knock-on effect into BiH. My War, I Miss It So.
I survived the Siege of Sarajevo. I myself was shot and I lost many of my neighbors and friends. I was 15 years old when the war started. One important part the video doesn't cover is the fact that the international community put a weapons embargo on us. So we couldn't even defend ourselves. Europe watched us get slaughtered and killed for years.
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As an American I remember this war vividly from the news coverage in the 90s. I was amazed at the bravery and ingenuity of the Sarjevo people who were under siege and their ability to manufacture devices in their apartment basements to defend themselves.
They put an arms embargo so that they could be the only ones selling you arms.
The reason Srebrenica was attacked (with the subesquent massacre of able bodied men) was that it was supposed to be a demilitarized UN safe haven, but was in reality armed (with UN troops blessing) and staging raids against the surrounding Serbian villages in order to force the Serbs to keep the troops around it, thus weakening the main fronts.
@@VersusARCH That's actually untrue. Srebrenica enclave was disarmed. They gave all their hunting rifles and whatever weapons they had to the UN. So they posed no threat whatsoever. Also men and boys were executed.
@@SirMo Untrue. They handed over some old weapons for show but kept enough in posession to stage raids commanded by Naser Orić (who was conviniently airlifted out of the enclave by UN helicopter prior to the Serbian attack). And it was with "UN" troops' (European NATO troops really) blessing. They were there to channel the conflict in the direction desired by their US overlords.
I almost died twice because there were not enough doctors to save me in Rijeka, Croatia (doctors went to Bosnia to save lives), where I was hospitalized because my appendix spilled during a seaside holiday in August 1995. After a month, my mother fought to have me transferred to Ljubljana in our country Slovenia, and they barely wrote me a discharge paper because they thought I was going to die during the ambulance transport. I stayed in Ljubljana for another month, my weight was half off and I was left with a large scar running vertically down the right side of my entire abdomen. Compared to that and what happened in Bosnia it's not even remotely the same, because worse stories have been written on the other side of the border. But I am glad that I survived and that makes me appreciate my life even more.
I love watching your videos and your approach to how you tell a story, you always choose a juicy subject for which I always think to myself how blindfolded we are. Thank you for your contribution to our community!
ej živjo danijela res mi je žal slišat o tvoji situaciji res sočustvujem. Jaz sem mel tudi svoje probleme kot bosanc pa je bilo težko objasnit mojim slovenskih prijateljem kako je biti v družini, ki je šla čez tako klanje. Tako, kot ti sem zelo hvaležen, da zdej živim v Sloveniji in da nisem rabil odraščat v ruševinah vojne. Upam, da si zdej dober in da živiš življenje večinoma pozitivno.
I send you a hug!!
I'm glad you're still with us today!
This is why democratic Marxist socialism's is bad, it divided the nation into separate ethnicity group and cause wars and conflict! Yugoslavia shouldn't have form in the first place.
Bok Danijela, drago mi je da si i dalje s nama 🙂 Ja sam rođen 89. u Rijeci i koliko se sjećam u Rijeci se taj rat nije toliko osjetio, ali opet bio sam dijete pa vjerojatno nisam ni bio svjestan puno toga. Stari mi je doktor, on je bio u Ogulinu i Delnicama za vrijeme rata. 96. smo se preselili u Otočac jer je stari dobio posao tamo. Tu se rat puno više osjetio jer je nedaleko bio front. Sjećam se tada kao klinac da je Srbin bila najveća uvreda koju si mogao nekom reć, ja tada naivno dijete mislio sam da Srbi ne postoje već da je to pogrdan naziv za Jugoslavene. Kad sam malo porastao nisam mogao shvatiti kako odrasli ljudi koji su nas kao djecu učili da budemo dobri, da se ne svađamo, da se ne tučemo uzmu puške i pucaju po svojim dojučerašnjim sunarodnjacima, prijateljima, komšijama samo zato jer su pripadnici drugog plemena (nacije)???
Ne ponovilo se, u ratu nema ništa dobro, ništa...
My dad who was 18 at the time born in the city of Bihac applied for the 502 tigers he was infantry a machine gun operator clearing major parts of bihac clearing it in a few months my mom who was around 15-16 when the war started was born in a bosnian town of prijedor was forced out by bosnian serb soldiers and sent to a camp luckily the people were rescued meanwhile my dad was transferred from 502 brigade to 5. Korpus with commander Atif dudakovic making their way from city to city being 20km away from banjaluka when they got a messege from another commander that they should either stop right there or retreat to a nearby city otherwise their position would be bombed by NATO jets sadly the 5. Korpus was stopped right in their tracks from conquering The capital city Banja Luka of the rs if nato didnt interfere in the siege the war would end in a few days my dad passed at the age of 45, on december 31st 2022 he was a good fighter and remembered by many as a Bosnian myself i dont have nothing against the people in RS cuz we are one people with diffrent religions but i will never forgive the people for the genocide aginst my people and also im not with the soldiers who did the same to serbs but war is war i hope no one has this expirience as we did
My mother lived in Sarejevo and she's told me many horrible stories of the war. For example, she watched a pregnant woman get shot in her stomach by serbian snipers and her uncle got blown to pieces by a stray bomb that missed a government building. A devastating war with very clear impacts on the country to date and likely for many more decades to come.
My father served in the 90s in Bosnia with the Canadian forces. He’s ruined mentally now mostly because of what he had seen and done over there
He lied to you.
The Canadian government of Brian Mulroney and his war minister, General Lewis McKenzie have an important role in the Horrors that your father had seen.
General McKenzie went directly to Bosnia, claiming to come to help secure release of Muslim female prisoners, but he took advantage of the teenage Muslim girls.
He was always pro Serbian and he belittle the massages made by the Serbians and urged Westen counties to not go to the help of the Muslims.
Plus even after the Serbians were defeated, Americans and Canadian soldiers committed sexual crimes against women. Many Canadians soldiers went to Bordellos organized by the Serbs , who forced Muslim girls to prostitution.
@@williamwilson6499genocide happened in Bosnia. Rape, murder, ethnic cleansing. Bosnian serb atrocities.
Wich is why Serbia deserves to be hated
As a former history teacher, I appreciate so much the way you research and present this information. Does it ever feel heavy in your heart as you report on the horrors of war and the devastation we visit on each other?
The short answer is yes. I used to do all the research and editing on my own and that was heavy looking at all the footage. I have a team now which means we split the work and hopefully minimize the exposure. But ultimately it’s important to bring this stuff to light
@@johnnyharrisI haven't watched your video in full yet, but I hope you mention how the cowardly Dutch army let & surrendered thousands of Muslims in genocide in exchange for their safety.
@@johnnyharris man up Johnny Harris. Stop being a cissy.
@@Contractor48 Yeah man, it's just a little genocide, it's no way it would have any mental impact on a man's psyche, what is PTSD?
@@Bobogdan258 check his name
thanks for putting this out there.
I've read several books on this subject, (the Civil War in the former Yugoslavia). I had friends who came to my home city of Portland Maine. To escape the war and consequent financial ruin and all-around devastation that followed its end.
It's most definitely the worst civil war on European soil in the 20th century. I wrote a fictional short story about a young Croatian man. Who came to the U.S. for a better life. I've also written other pieces and prose on the war in the former Yugoslavia.
My girlfriend is Bosnian. Did not learn about the Bosnian genocide until I got to know her and her family. I was able to relate to her mothers struggle as a Syrian. An insane let down by the whole world. Thank you for making this episode
yeah my ex girlfriend was bosnian aswell, her parentsa are refugees from the war.
God save Bosnia & kosovo ☪️!
Having girlfriends is haram get married.
@@adampatel3132 mind ur own business .ur existance is haram for us lol.
@@adampatel3132 is that what you took from this? Lmaooooo actual cognitive dissonance
I'm from Sarajevo and I was a part of the war there. You can't put into words what happened. The fact that the city was blockaded in 1425, that thousands of children died, that the sports fields where I played football as a boy were converted into cemeteries says it all.
In 1425?
@@jamesabergas5320 1425 days city of Sarajevo was blocked,surounded with tanks and snipers by Serbian army.
@@Cveja91 thank you
@@Cveja91 1425 days? Do you know how many years that is?
@@johnconnor1583 Do you know how to count or the Terminator fried your brain?
Dear Johnny, this is a very good summary of the war. It takes a lot of grinding to understand all the twists and turns, but you got it. Understanding that this video format doesn't allow for elaborations on details, and that it was not supposed to show the horrors of the war, I should still say, as a genocide survivor from Srebrenica, it was unimaginably evil and barbaric. The bodily remains of my father, who was separated from in front of me, were excavated 17 years after he was murdered. His body was pieced together, albeit incomplete, from six different mass graves. About a month ago, we had news in Bosnia of a body of a man murdered in Srebrenica, excavated from beneath a fountain in a private yard of a Serb orthopedist, who took the body back in 1995., transported it for "study" hundreds of kilometers away, and finally covered it with a fountain in his yard.
We are still experiencing the horrors of the war.
This was a very good overview of what was an extremely complex conflict. But it seems bizarre to think that this is a forgotten war. The collapse of Yugoslavia and the war in Croatia and Bosnia defined the first half of the 1990s. But I’m now getting students who weren’t born when 9/11 happened. I find it fascinating how particular events are ‘remembered’ across generations and others aren’t.
My earliest political memory was the invasion of Iraq in 2003. I was born in in 1998.
lies r everywhere.
Why not forgeten professor ; because the muslims have been executed by US And NATO.
It is bizarre, but ask 100 people in the general public about Bosnia or the Balkan conflict, and maybe 10% have any clue.
Was not a good overview at all.
When I was in high school we were tasked with writing about “forgotten wars/ war crimes.” I had just rewatched the movie Behind Enemy Lines which I would say loosely covers the bloodily conflict. After watching the film I remembered my assignment and decided it was time to learn more about it. Needless to say just after finishing up my report to the class there was a noticeable thickness in the air and the class was awfully quiet. Most of my classmates just covered the basic facts in their assignments while I went down a rabbit hole of the worst parts of humanity. I was quite depressed after it was all done, I think we all were and none of us ever lived it.
You did a good thing, with your assignment: you made people step outside of their normal comfort zone, thinking about something different. Everyone learned that day. Well done 👍
Humans are disgusting creatures and when you really think about it we are all capable of violence like this with the right push, could be a friend, your neighbor, or even you. I may not b religious but the one thing I pray for every day is to bring forth the apocalypse and wipe humanity off the face of the earth.
Apparently us croats and serbs have even made hitler shudder when he was informed how we do things down here
I watched the Awfulness unfold on the evening news and was horrified. I had classmates from literally all the different ex-yugoslavian republics. A few years later, there was a movie, "No Man´s Land". It´s bitter. But well made. But it left me very silent for a couple of days.
Long live the relations between Croatia and the Holy See! Long live the Catholic Church! Long live catholic Croatia 🇭🇷🇻🇦🇭🇷✝️
The forgotten wars are the most brutal ones, It's sad it took UN 5 years to see the real evil going on, by then the damage had been done.
Well made video i pray for one day Serbian ,Albanian ,Croat and bosnian people move on and learn how to never again chose war again . The scars will always be there .
Great video. I can highly recommend traveling to Bosnia. It offers a great combination of culture, nature and amazing food. And all of it very affordable. Check out Sarajevo, Mostar, Blagaj, Stolac, Bijeljina, Trebinje, Travnik and Visegrad - they are all incredibly beautiful places.
But Bosnia doesn't need pity. It needs tourists. That's how Croatia recovered so quickly after the war.
Tara River on the border of Montenegro and Bosnia is the most beautiful place I've ever been to.
@louiciousthewerewolf4819 not Slovenia?
We did not recover fully, it is only beautiful on the coast, not on the land, where people live in misery which is not shown at all in the media
Ha? Croatia recovered? From what? How? Why r croats leaving croatia, then???
Bosnia needs stable politacl system and security, that is what was goven to Croatia by the west christian civilisation and not to Bosnia because we are muslims. You see, Croatia became the member of NATO, EU, Eurozone, Schengen... Bosnia never gets any of these oportunities. The politicians in Croatia are not less corruot then these in Bosnia, but as I said, one of them are christians and the other one predominant muslims which never gets the oportunity to develope themselves to atract investitions, tourists, poeple to live and work in...
As a british soldier i was deployed to bosnia as part of the nato force in january 1996,the peace felt very fragile.
I live in Belgrade Serbia 🇷🇸 and love all in the Balkans. Many of my friends lost retrieves on all sides. This brings tears to my eyes
Then why tf your country attacking and killing them
@@Justin-pm7vvit's not just 1 country that it's fault, ur not from there so u have no right to talk about it, good day
@@Justin-pm7vv bullshit
@@Justin-pm7vvit’s because countries was weakening of coarse they would
@@Justin-pm7vv bosnian army shelling croatian hospitals was a regular, same with civilian gatherings, so no, bosnia is not "innocent"
60% of my family was killed during this war. I could have grown up with Cousins, uncles and aunts. Saddest part is, the country and the people in it cannot recover properly due to the corrupt politics and nationalism. Thank you for this video, bringing some attention back to this beautiful country!
Žao mi je zbog tvoje porodice. Po tvojoj poruci vidim da shvaćaš da problem nije u jednom narodu, nego u nacionalizmu sva tri entiteta.
Na žalost, tako će ostati još dugo, dok nas sve ne poveže neka veća nesreća....ili dok se sve to ne raspadne, jer očito ovako nešto ne može da postane bez pritiska iz vana.
Get ready for another outbreak, the next generation has grown up
It was terrible agresion of Croats and Serbian politics, their presidents Milosevic/Tudjman, they wanted divide undivated Bosnia-Hercegovina.
Saddly this kinde of politic is even today actual in politics of
Serbo-Croatia! Result is: " You guys can NOT do that ultranational job, ok!" 😊
dont care
@@b.med.34 sorry to break it to you but if u have a country and somebody in that country declares independence, they are breaking it
I remember in middle school a third of my class was made up of kids from former Yugoslavia. All of them had different ethnic backgrounds but they ended up forming a comradeship and became good friends because they all hated the war in general. None of them blamed anyone except the rich classes making life miserable for everyone else. I learned a lot of Serbian/Croatian swearing while at that school.
These people all speak the same language and have the same blood - genes. Serbs, Croats and Bosnians are actually brothers - old Balkan Europeans that used to live there long time before Indo-Europeans came and despite they speak a Slavic language they are not Slavs by genes unlike us Slovenians or Poles, Russians, Ukrainians... It is crazy that some of the worst wars happened between genetically very closely related nations. The latest example is current Ukrainian war.
@@tongobong1 You know sh.t. We might have similar languages, but definitely not the same. Besides, just because Norgewian, Swedish, Danish, Finish and even German might seem similar, they are not the same. Also, we have genetical differences (different haplogroups). So, keep your Yugoslavia bs to yourself. Never again with that cr.p!
@@tongobong1 Genetic studies confirm Croatians and Serbs are indeed Slavic.
zdravo pečko ;)
said noone ever
wtf
have you ever even met someone from the balkans? they're like cats and water or dogs and fire lol
as someone who actually went to school and sports clubs with an actual majority of serbs, bosniaks and albanians (ghetto part of town), the hatred among eachother was absolutely brutal. no need to get into details, i'm getting the feeling from other comments around here that youtube is particularly strict about the comment guidelines here.
but let's just say there were tons of fights as you know it from american hoods, but they were also actual children, like not even into the double digits in age. almost all of them did terribly in school, were held back for a year or two, still did badly often and mostly became construction workers or went into similar trades like mechs.
as a non-balkan native but who came from a neighbouring neutral country, so much closer to their homes than where we all lived at that point, i had no big issues with them at all. sure, there was casual violence everywhere, but the racism stayed within their groups. it took me many, many years to since have met two actual balkanians who never participated in any of this and did well for themselves. one was born rich and never actually lived in the ghetto but the rich part of town, couldnt tell you where he was from as i lost contact to him entirely. it probably helps that he's part of the lgbt, as those are also despised in the balkans. the other one is actually my best friend, met him in high school, but he's only half serbian and half non-southern slav and they came here just when my parents did (when the iron curtain fell) and "only" lived in the second worst ghetto of the capital, unlike me, whose entire childhood played only in the proper hood. anyway, so he's a high achiever engineer now, but i dont think he even has any other balkan friends. maybe some random ones here and there bc we know so many people, but i'm fairly confident the three of us only did decently well in life bc we distanced ourselves from the vermin. and i dont mean to insult any nations here, but what i've witnessed with my own two eyes were literally just vermin out to get eachother over scraps. just criminals of the worst kind and they started young, very young.
I'm a person living in serbia, but extremely addicted to sarajevo. I come there like 3 times a year and war causes are still there. You can see grenade holes everywhere and a lot of abandoned buildings. Except all of that, sarajevo is beautiful and recommended to visit
Yeah you are from Serbia with "Sarajevo ball" as a name😂....Right here how many Serbs love in Sarajevo before and after war,just to people who are outsiders see my point ...
You freaking nailed that intro dude
As a Bosnian, I can only say: Thank You, Johnny, for sharing and educating the world about the Bosnian War.
Many people still deny the facts you showed (and many others too) and the biggest problem by far is that deniers are raising deniers which is harming the country and the entire region.
Comment form Western Europe
I wonder who’s going to resettle the Balkans after of the south Slavs leave
He did not mention that well before the war in Bosnia officially started, there was ongoing fighting within Bosnia, but it was only between Serbs and Croats, and it was directly linked to the ongoing war in Croatia.
Serb and Yugoslav forces were using Bosnian territory to attack Croatia and when doing so they were attacking and killing Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
One such incident was attack on the village of Ravno, when Yugoslav army attacked and destroyed Croat village in Herzegovina, on their way to attack Dubrovnik, Croatia.
After this incident, Croats in Bosnia demanded central Bosnian government (mostly led by Muslims) to do something, however, Bosniak president, Alija Izetbegovic, publicly stated on television; "this is not our war, we will not interfere"
Afterwards, Croats of Bosnia realized they cannot rely on Bosnian government for protection (which they helped vote to power), and had to form their own state within a state, that is, Herzeg-Bosnia.
So Croats were practically back-stabbed by Bosniaks at the start of the war, as they did not want to fight the Serbs.
In early 1992 when the war in Bosnia officially started, Bosnia was mostly and most effectivelly defended by Croats, who were better organized and prepared for the war.
As such, if not for Croats of Bosnia it is very likely the Serbs would have managed to conquer much more of Bosnia in the early stages of the war, and perhaps win the war at the start.
@@rudysmith1552 Cry more, Serb.
@@hehe-pt6yb interesting
I visited Bosnia and the people were very generous and kind. It is damaged and there are still bullet holes in buildings that aren't repaired yet. The train to Mostar is beautiful and cost just €2.
This is why democratic Marxist socialism's is bad, it divided the nation into separate ethnicity group and cause wars and conflict! Yugoslavia shouldn't have form in the first place
And you still have legs?
@@pav_5190 clown
@@7HMCR7 why, i literally talked with persons from there and its actually common to activate a random mine
I’m from Mostar .. glad u enjoyed your visit kind sir
I think another story worth mentioning is that Croats and Bosniaks were not interested in allying with each other, they were simply, forced to enter a pact of convenience, but only after they fought a simultaneous bloody war of the same time. A lot of Croats were expelled by the Bosniaks and vice versa, long before the Serbs committed the horror of Srebrenica. So literally it is not just sad, but also tragic.
My grandfather was deployed to Bosnia during the genocide. He apparently was stationed on a submarine armed with nuclear warheads. I’m not sure all of what he did. We’ve barely talked about his time in the conflict, so I don’t know much. But I do know he spent years and years sleepwalking in the middle of the night to his front yard, where he would salute the flag unconscious for 5-10 minutes at a time. War is hell.
If you're interested in learning more I definitely suggest watching "The Death of Yugoslavia". It was made by the BBC around the mid-90s so they were able to interview all of the big players in the conflicts. It is such a good series.
I just finished that last week. It’s an absolute must watch.
Amazing documentary.
100% highly recommend
Thanks a Lot Man
Just checking to see if anyone else has posted about this! The finest documentary I have ever seen, unbelievable first hand accounts with almost all indicted in the ICTY war crime tribunal. Must see for anyone interested in this subject
As a survivor of the Bosnian war I watched this with a lot of reservation having seen many "foreigners" making same videos without having a clue of what they were talking about. I'm relieved to say it was worth watching, good summary of events, still doesn't get near painting the image of horrors experienced by the people there.
Me too. Since the focus is on BiH, I would just like to add that even though the war ended, the siege of Sarajevo was only proclaimed as finished in 1996, and even after the proclamation, there were projectiles fired.
Nowhere near…and in 25 mins or so?! Wtf
All I know that US Admin. actively worked to abolish Lisbon agreement at the beginning of 1992 which effectively led to Bosnian war. Especially then US ambassador Peter Galbraith. Same scenario that the US did later in Ukraine
Do you have any good youtube video about this topic? Thanks in advance
My dad befriended a Bosniak at his work years ago (around 1999) and some of the stories he told about escaping Bosnia were quite harrowing.
I escaped from bosnia and had a big wish to see our old family house. Also i visited my now 79 old neigbour last week. We were crying as we were talking about good times before the war and she told me her son got shot dead during the war, we were crying as it happened yesterday. Its 30 years ago and our hearts still bleeding
This war is the reason why there is a surprisingly large Bosnian population in St. Louis, which I live across the Mississippi River from. While it is beyond tragic they had to leave their country to begin with, I am glad they were able to find a new home here.
Never forget how they stabbed us croat Catholics in the back after saving them from extinction. The Muslims are now oppressing us in Bosnia
I have a Serbian friend who did his undergrad degree in st Louis. I wonder if he went there because of that
South County.
Some relocated to Jacksonville, Fl as well.
Lots in fort wyane indiana too
I had never heard of this war until I read Safe Area: Gorazde by Joe Sacco. A very interesting and informative read for those who like graphic novels and world history.
My father, a member of the Croatian army, fought as a scout in the war in Bosnia in the front lines, and behind the front lines during the war...In the beginning with the Bosniaks against the Serbs, then against the Bosniaks until the intensity of the fighting with the Serbs calmed down...after that again with Bosniaks against Serbs, all in three years in the same combat unit, which speaks volumes about the senselessness of the war in Bosnia. At the same time, there were several hundred thousand refugees from Bosnia, a third of the occupied Croatia, mixed with Croatian refugees in all possible accommodations. Also, at the same time when my father was at war with Bosnia, in the apartment where we lived in Split (Croatia), there were refugees: a family of a mixed marriage of a Serb and a Bosniak woman from the area of Visoko (BiH) and their two children, to whom we made our home available while were waiting for a visa for the USA...Strange times and they did not repeat themselves
I was a child during the war. My dad was put in a concentration camp, Manjaca. We were forced to flee our town, which was and still is predominantly Serbian. I am Muslim and have no hate towards anyone and don’t wish the experience of a war to anyone. However, I am deeply disappointed and saddened by the world’s silence as so many heinous crimes were committed against so many innocent people.
😮😢
The world wasn’t silent it was just the hipcorticsl west, except América they actually cared
This take which is rare
They even spit in our face by calling it genocide in Ukraine while they enjoy concerts and McDonalds and Theater. Calling it the first war in europe since ww2.
The world was even silent when muslim ottomon massacre millions of Christian Armenian, Greek and Asyrains
I was a kid, 7yr old, living in Croatia. Remember everything, my dad was in for from the first day. To this day i cannot hear a loud noise or a plane flying over. I freeze in fear. War is my biggest fear. Driving through Bosnia is alway sad because the war is very much still visible there. 💔
WHY CAN'T BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA BE A UNITARY MULTI-ETHNIC COMMUNITY...?
Bosnia and Herzegovina was a multi-ethnic community in Yugoslavia - while the cohesive strength of the community came from self-governing worker (class...!) consciousness, which was: above all religious and national consciousness.
In such circumstances: where the dominant form was social ownership of the means of production, and the main production relationship: SELF-MANAGEMENT, it was easy to build multi-ethnic relations and multiculturalism: which was reflected in film, sports and especially in music, where it manifested itself the most...!
With the introduction of capitalist relations and private property as the dominant form in the economy, where PROFIT is the main driver of everything and not satisfying the NEEDS OF CITIZENS, political relations are radically changed, where the existing multi-ethnic and multicultural community is legally disintegrating, because this "new" is now based on : A MULTI-PARTY POLITICAL SYSTEM, where each ethnic group legally creates its own political party... And they are no longer bound by CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS and affiliation, but exclusively by NATIONAL or RELIGIOUS (both in politics, culture, economy, security and sports...!)
Any attempt in such (bourgeois...) circumstances, to establish some kind of UNITARY COMMUNITY, inevitably leads to the domination of one nation and therefore to conflict within such an artificial (forced...) community, and finally, to the inevitable... - WAR...!
I will prove to you with a very simple question, that Muslims from Bosnia are ESSENTIALLY the instigators of the war in BiH...!
"If TOMORROW ALL SERBS from Republika Srpska were to collectively convert from Orthodoxy to Islam, would you - shoot them"...?
Answer me....? If you have a "hertz"...?
If you say: that you would not shoot the Serbs, if they collectively convert to Islam: THAT MEANS - THAT YOU did not like the multi-ethnic and multicultural Bosnia that existed in the SFRY and that you are: 100% responsible for the outbreak of war in Bosnia...!
If you say: That you would still shoot at the Serbs... - it only means that you are a FASCIST society and a fascist TOTALITARIAN community, which does not know how to organize economic life in Bosnia and Herzegovina on the principles of democratic principles, and that is why you NEED ROBBERY of other peoples and their economic and financial resources.
So...?
Are you the instigators of war in BiH...? The answer is: YES...! Muslims are the instigators of war in BiH...!
@@milosmilosic2632 take your meds
@@milosmilosic2632 'Muslims are instigators of war in Bosnia Herzegovina'.
He who partakes in the murder of innocents irrespective of religious/political affiliations has committed the gravest of sins. Justice is always served whether in this life or the next. It is impregnated in the minds of those who suffered, not necessarily the victim either but extended members of the family and community. It exists in their thoughts, and thoughts have ramifications because thoughts are an energy field that you can't see. Much like gravity and a magnetic field. Even the death of a physical individual does not kill the thought and those who harbour the greatest revenge harbour the greatest thoughts.
Just another biased video....
Not a single mention of the biggest genocide in entire history of Southeastern Europe, done by Croats during ww2.
Which was hidden and suppressed in Yugoslavia in after war period by communist regime and Vatican clergy..... which actually was a reason behind all hate and destruction.
War is still a visible reminder in Croatia, especially in Vukovar.
If you want to know about the war which shattered Yugoslavia in detail, look up “The Death of Yugoslavia”, a BBC documentary done in the last days of the war in Bosnia, with interviews with all the major people involved and quite a few more minor figures.
If you want to know about war watch "weight of chains" which perfectly goes into whole conflict and doesn't hide anything
Only those who lived through it know how bad it was. Reading about it or watching documentaries you'd easily think this wasn't a real event or that it was blown out of proportions because of how bad things were.
WHY CAN'T BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA BE A UNITARY MULTI-ETHNIC COMMUNITY...?
Bosnia and Herzegovina was a multi-ethnic community in Yugoslavia - while the cohesive strength of the community came from self-governing worker (class...!) consciousness, which was: above all religious and national consciousness.
In such circumstances: where the dominant form was social ownership of the means of production, and the main production relationship: SELF-MANAGEMENT, it was easy to build multi-ethnic relations and multiculturalism: which was reflected in film, sports and especially in music, where it manifested itself the most...!
With the introduction of capitalist relations and private property as the dominant form in the economy, where PROFIT is the main driver of everything and not satisfying the NEEDS OF CITIZENS, political relations are radically changed, where the existing multi-ethnic and multicultural community is legally disintegrating, because this "new" is now based on : A MULTI-PARTY POLITICAL SYSTEM, where each ethnic group legally creates its own political party... And they are no longer bound by CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS and affiliation, but exclusively by NATIONAL or RELIGIOUS (both in politics, culture, economy, security and sports...!)
Any attempt in such (bourgeois...) circumstances, to establish some kind of UNITARY COMMUNITY, inevitably leads to the domination of one nation and therefore to conflict within such an artificial (forced...) community, and finally, to the inevitable... - WAR...!
I will prove to you with a very simple question, that Muslims from Bosnia are ESSENTIALLY the instigators of the war in BiH...!
"If TOMORROW ALL SERBS from Republika Srpska were to collectively convert from Orthodoxy to Islam, would you - shoot them"...?
Answer me....? If you have a "hertz"...?
If you say: that you would not shoot the Serbs, if they collectively convert to Islam: THAT MEANS - THAT YOU did not like the multi-ethnic and multicultural Bosnia that existed in the SFRY and that you are: 100% responsible for the outbreak of war in Bosnia...!
If you say: That you would still shoot at the Serbs... - it only means that you are a FASCIST society and a fascist TOTALITARIAN community, which does not know how to organize economic life in Bosnia and Herzegovina on the principles of democratic principles, and that is why you NEED ROBBERY of other peoples and their economic and financial resources.
So...?
Are you the instigators of war in BiH...? The answer is: YES...! Muslims are the instigators of war in BiH...!
@@milosmilosic2632živjela živjela bosna !
I visited Bosnia last summer and really loved the place and its vibes!! It was really disturbing to see the remaining physical damages throughout the old buildings and to know what these people had been through, i deeply relate to bosnians as we experienced almost the same story in Syria! But the difference is that our wound is still bleeding and the criminal is wandering around.
I went in November to Tuzla and Sarajevo and it's my favorite trip so far. Everyone was so kind to me and my friend. We could definitely feel marks of the war left in the country, which is something that I've been lucky to not have experience as I'm from Sweden. It's made me think a lot about how lucky I am to live in a country that has experienced very little conflict over the past century and unfortunately how uncommon that is in our world. I can not even imagine what pain that must be.
@@lps_nine totally agree! I visited sarajevo, mostar, konjic, blagaj, pocitelj and kravica waterfall and i had a rafting trip in Neretva river which was an amazing life experience!
Btw i was told that the majority of refugees sought asylum in Germany and sweden
Serbians think like Russians, they love criminals and pushing the limits. They have huge egos and think less. Had they wanted a better future the Balkan would have been so forward now. But they let Russia play them for their own interest so the region left behind.
This is why democratic Marxist socialism's is bad, it divided the nation into separate ethnicity group and cause wars and conflict! Yugoslavia shouldn't have form in the first place
Hey man whose the bad guy in terms of the war happening in Syria it’s hard to pinpoint it could you tell me?
you are spot on with this video --thanks to telling the truth 🙏good bless you
We austrians had huge refugee waves from this war. People from the older generations of these regions still cry when they talk about it they are scared for life. Really sad.
As someone who was born (2001) and raised in Bosnia , as a kid i didnt really want to be the person who did not accept someones presence just because of their ethics . but as i grew i saw how much each side hated the other , so much so that some people have told me "dont talk about them" before meeting some of their older family members , but at the same time i met likeminded people who accepted people for who they are , not what their ancestors did . And cherry on top , my best relationship is getting ruined by that hatred , because my family was on the croat side ( my family also reached a point where they accept people regardless of ethics and other things ) , and hers is on the bosniac side (they still hate the others , and as soon as my love mentions she met someone their first question they ask her is obvious ) . With all the love in the world for each other we are so scared to try but also we never met anyone who was such a perfect match , everything about our personalities is just a click , morals are on the same page , music taste , every , f-ing , aspect of what you could like/love about someone , we do .... but the past haunts us still . As a man i will do everything in my power to make things work , brothers and sisters wish me luck and pray that God is on our side for the fact that we do not want to be infuenced by all of those horrors anymore. P.S. I am sorry for any grammar errors , emotions are fluid and huge right now , it was really hard to type this and keep composed without smashing something in my room and making pointless noise.
Man this is such a cool story. I hope you both find a way to keep this relationship together. I don't know the mentality of the two families , but try to leave them to the side and focus on your love. Cheers!
@@user-zz7tk4yr4d Yes that is my thought process too but in our country family is #1 everywhere , so it is really shameful not to be on good terms with them.
Really hope your love will blossom and become a successfull and happy marriage! Love from Brazil ❤
Stay strong. Many people never find the kind of love you describe. If her family is so filled with hatred that they can't rejoice in their daughter being happy and treasured, she may need to be part of your family. Good parents want nothing more than love and joy for their children.
God bless. I hope and pray you and your love spend forever together!
I went to secondary school in Hong Kong in the early 2000s with a Bosnian girl whose family endured this war. She would appear visibly shaken when she told us her personal stories of the war. She was often moody. She would recoil whenever someone touched her, and in hindsight I now realise that she was suffering from PTSD.
The boarding school I went to from 2002-2006 had a European exchange student who grew up in Sarajevo during the war. Her parents recorded the day the siege of Sarajevo started. I remember watching it with a bunch of other boarding students.
Keep in mind...this was also around the same time the US invaded Iraq so seeing live coverage of war was starting to become normalized.
@cavachoncx3 Indeed, but not a Bosnian
She did not tell u the truth. If she did exist; she could be only Jugoslavian? SHe's recoiling cause; she has no clue who or what she is?
@@jaykim8851 usa invaded Iraq? And; who invaded Jugoslavija?
@@peter58peter the video explains the history of what happened in this area. Use your eyes and ears bruh.
As a Serb, im gere to say what happened in Bosnia is a Disgrace to my people, Milošević was a Tyrant, as hated in Serbia as he was in Bosnia, using lethal force to quench protests against him, he single handedly ruined the Serbian economy which has not recovered since. My point is, he wasn't exactly popular. He even had ties with Organized crime, same organized crime that flourishes today in Belgrade.
You should also make a video about NATO bombing of Serbian mainland (Belgrade, Smederevo, Etc.) 1999, with targets like TV stations with civilians working in them, and Civilian Bridges. Not to Mention they used Depleted Uranium to bomb us, which caused a giant spike in Cancer rates still felt today.
Not to rub it on your nose, but ffs you had it coming. Not 1 of the 3 countries you invaded wanted the war but still got it because YOU elected him. Don't cry when war comes to you.
Why was Belgrade bombed?
Bullshit. You ain't no Serb, and nor are you an ex-Yugoslav. Perhaps there are those Serbs who disliked Milosevic, but the nation's reason for ousting him sure as shit did not involve them swallowing the west's narrative about him being the bogeyman and all factions fighting to break Yugoslavia up as all being on the side of the angels. That's the western narrative pal.
@@axnorobc they were trying a bosnia 2.0 in kosovo
@@JesusChristItsJasonFrog Poppycock. Belgrade in 1999 was Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (union between Serbia & Montenegro), while the Bosnian war was fought among the unrecognised Republika Srpska, the ARBiH (Muslim pro-Izetbegovic), and Bosnian Croat forces, along with a separate Muslim faction allied to Serbs and up to 1994, Croats, operating from Velika Kladusa. In short, Serbs refute the narrative of this video, while the reason for the NATO bombing was the FRY's refusal to hand Kosovo over to the western backed forces and allowing the US jackboot to smear its faeces all over Serbia and Montenegro per the Rambouillet ultimatum before NATO launched its aggression. The collective west is far from being this Marvel Comics champion of good over evil as it likes to portray itself, and whatever the hell you mean by "Bosnia 2.0" could never keep up with the genocide of Palestinians cheered on by America and its NATO bedfellows.
Great video, but one correction - Slovenia didn't go to war. It's called 10-day war, but there were no battles, just couple of ambushes. Riots are more dangerous than slovenian war.
Three of my half siblings died in this war. Something this video fails to mention is that the Bosniaks fought back for years despite being under an internationally upheld embargo. Most ABiH (Army of BiH) military personnel were fighting with outdated weapons, some dating back to the first and second world war. I’m alive today (born just after the war) by pure chance. There was a countless number of times where both my parents faced death and barely escaped, and unfortunately the scars are still felt today. My only words of advice to those reading this is call out fascism when you see it, and make them feel shame for their lack of regard for humanity. Because the ideology that took the lives of my family doesn’t deserve a place in modern history.
Sorry your lose. As Turkish full support Bosnia, we don't forget bosnian genocide
Sad that a genocide is happening to the Palestinian people right now yet the western world remains quiet
@@aren624but you forget the armenian genocide.
Crazy what the orthodox have done to the Muslims?
Say thanks to Izetbegovic for the war your family has experienced.
As a Bosnian baby born during the war in 1993, in Mostar - thank you. We say that the war hasn't really ended, it's just led differently now. But newer generations that are growing up are different and hopefully can bring unity to the people of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Balkans will probably never be in peace
@@zHaste lol hell no
@@zHaste Yes, Croatia is among the safest countries in europe with low crime rate but Bosnia, Albania and Serbia are different world, you can't compared these three countries with Croatia or Slovenia. And also Croatia and Slovenia are not balkan.
@@kategoried7501 Croatia is most certainly a balkan country. Also, while the crime rates are indeed higher in Bosnia and Serbia, they are still nowhere near the US.
For 2020 the US murder rate is 7.5 times higher than in Serbia.
@@kategoried7501 You have no clue what you are talking about. All those countries are safer than the US. I'm in Serbia and I don't even lock my house at night. We see burglary and murder as things that happen in movies and tv shows. The only US states off the top of my head that might be comparably safe are perhaps Maine and Vermont.
Geographically, most of Croatia and Serbia are in the Balkans, and a good portion of Slovenia. Culturally I guess it's debatable, but you could say the same thing about most countries in the Balkans, especially Greece. Actually the region and eastern Europe as a whole are the best proof that poverty does not equal crime and murder. Social contract and rule of law are more important than wealth.
BTW I went to Albania as a Serb last summer, and I felt as safe as in Serbia.
It’s crazy how complicated this conflict is this is just a super simple overview; I encourage everyone to watch the 90s bbc documentary of it; it has all the leaders and other primary sources who lived it who give in depth interviews on it. If you just type bbc Yugoslavia documentary you’ll find it. It’s lengthy but very well worth it truly.
try watching the avoidable war instead
Made a lot of Bosnian refugee friends here in the US because of this war. I've heard many many many stories of the atrocities committed.
My family is Montenegrian and my mum was an university student in Sarajevo when the war broke out. In the first days, she wasn't quite aware how serious the situation was so she didn't leave the country immediately.
She was listening to grenades and people being killed everyday for a week. She was lucky enough to escape but her boyfriend at that time wasn't. He died few days after they said goodbye.
WHY CAN'T BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA BE A UNITARY MULTI-ETHNIC COMMUNITY...?
Bosnia and Herzegovina was a multi-ethnic community in Yugoslavia - while the cohesive strength of the community came from self-governing worker (class...!) consciousness, which was: above all religious and national consciousness.
In such circumstances: where the dominant form was social ownership of the means of production, and the main production relationship: SELF-MANAGEMENT, it was easy to build multi-ethnic relations and multiculturalism: which was reflected in film, sports and especially in music, where it manifested itself the most...!
With the introduction of capitalist relations and private property as the dominant form in the economy, where PROFIT is the main driver of everything and not satisfying the NEEDS OF CITIZENS, political relations are radically changed, where the existing multi-ethnic and multicultural community is legally disintegrating, because this "new" is now based on : A MULTI-PARTY POLITICAL SYSTEM, where each ethnic group legally creates its own political party... And they are no longer bound by CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS and affiliation, but exclusively by NATIONAL or RELIGIOUS (both in politics, culture, economy, security and sports...!)
Any attempt in such (bourgeois...) circumstances, to establish some kind of UNITARY COMMUNITY, inevitably leads to the domination of one nation and therefore to conflict within such an artificial (forced...) community, and finally, to the inevitable... - WAR...!
I will prove to you with a very simple question, that Muslims from Bosnia are ESSENTIALLY the instigators of the war in BiH...!
"If TOMORROW ALL SERBS from Republika Srpska were to collectively convert from Orthodoxy to Islam, would you - shoot them"...?
Answer me....? If you have a "hertz"...?
If you say: that you would not shoot the Serbs, if they collectively convert to Islam: THAT MEANS - THAT YOU did not like the multi-ethnic and multicultural Bosnia that existed in the SFRY and that you are: 100% responsible for the outbreak of war in Bosnia...!
If you say: That you would still shoot at the Serbs... - it only means that you are a FASCIST society and a fascist TOTALITARIAN community, which does not know how to organize economic life in Bosnia and Herzegovina on the principles of democratic principles, and that is why you NEED ROBBERY of other peoples and their economic and financial resources.
So...?
Are you the instigators of war in BiH...? The answer is: YES...! Muslims are the instigators of war in BiH...!
@@milosmilosic2632 Sure, let's reverse the question. Who's the instigator in the Croatian War for independence?
@@milosmilosic2632 wtf are you talking about ?
@@DTBIDTB Franjo Tudjman and close to him ultranationalistic and neo-Nazi circles in SR Croatia.
@@matthiasdarrington3271 To simplify, he is saying that the Muslim "fighting for unitary multinational" Bosnia is just a smoke screen that should hide the actual purpose of Bosnia breaking away, which is to have Bosnian Muslim - fully controlled by the US - dominate such quasi-country, with the other two constitutional nations - Croats and, particularly, Serbs, made marginal. The US is trying to do something similar with the occupied province of Serbia, Kosovo.
My wife and I just drove through this area last week from Greece, through Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, and Slovenia. We were googling along the way to try to understand more about this region, because it's extremely complicated. Growing up in Norway I remember the news in the early 90's about Sarajevo and Bosnia, but we were never told the greater extent of the conflicts in the Balkans. Thanks for helping to shed light on this.
why not Serbia,,its same nice and beautiful ,maybe more than others,and you even eat or drink for free because you are stranger..People dont know,but there love all turist or who ride throgh contry..big mistake for not see Serbia,have beautyful people and land..don't listen what other say,see yourselfe..next time
@@garkocrnic4707 we drove through Serbia in January. Can't be everywhere at once :)
Why didn't you come say hi in Slovenia we would welcome you
Nice seeing you here! You photographed my friends wedding (Marianne and Christer) in Bodø 2019 :)
@@venom2k2 that was a fun one! :)
Heard a lot about this war. Grew up in Sweden and it was unavoidable to hear about it