I think the power limitations of these little bikes adds to the experience of owning them. It kinda forces you to find routes you wouldn’t normally take. Freeway travel? Pshh…. That’s what cars are for. I even avoid them on my Harley. Back roads are much more scenic.
Agreed! That's why I gravitate toward touring on smaller bikes... it forces you to slow down and enjoy the scenery instead of rushing through it to reach the destination. I just completed a 9600+ mile trip around the USA on my Super Cub for the Scooter Cannonball Run in July. Stay tuned for that series! The unfortunate situation with the CT125 is that its top speed is much lower than the Super Cub, so traveling on Texas's back highways is very challenging. Most of our rural highways have speed limits of 65-75 MPH now, so that means cager traffic is blasting through at 75-90 MPH. The CT125 tops out around 50 MPH, so that can result in a 25-40 MPH overtake difference. It's no fun to see an 18-wheeler come flying over a hill behind you at 80+ MPH on a 2-lane highway! I'll probably install the 143cc big-bore kit on this bike to wake up the motor a little bit. The slight bump in displacement and compression takes the motor from 8 to ~11 HP. That should be enough to let it cruise at 55-60 "comfortably" with a 15T front sprocket. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Excellent analogy Gas Works. I agree with you 100%. You may or may not recall, but your Monkey intro is what helped me to get back on a bike after 10 years. I still have that yellow Monkey with 5k on the odometer now. Have a Trail125 as well. Its definately a bike to ride by some of your rules that I recall and follow - pick safe low traffic routes, time of day, and what terrain is safe and applicable. Quasimotard your description is so spot on for the Trail125. We just talked about pros vs cons between it and the Super Cub. Well, us talking and me watching one too many Trail125 videos 'forced me' to go back and retrieve my beloved Trail125 from the dealer I traded it into for my CB500X (you analogy of the CB500X is spot on too as well - LOVE that bike)This bike is slow-mo-jo but its vintage appeal is off the charts. Your bike is one of the best set ups I've seen accessories wise. Looks awesome👌. Plus you obtained 'Village Hooligan' status on it that day you thrashed the muddy grassy service roads 😀👍. I plan on maybe just slapping some knobbies on mine one day to putter around dirt roads as well as the country back roads I live near. Even though I will not mod my engine I look forward to seeing what you decide to go with. I feel your an ambassador for the Honda Super Cub with all the awesome videos and knowledge you've shared with us all about it. Same goes for the Trail125. Heard about the rumored 150cc version just mentioned in Japan?
Omg. I love the windscreen and milk crate. It looks funny, cool, and they serve a purpose. This bike is setup well. Great choice on the black milk crate. Red would’ve been too much. Thanks for the information regarding the other relevant bikes.
Having done some serious testing on the lack of power for the Honda CT125, I've installed a 142cc Big Bore Kit as well as installing a 42T rear sprocket for better low end here in Thailand. The kit I purchased included a fuel injector that is standard on a Honda PCX150. No reason to mess with the ECU on it, but it helps if you upgrade the air filter to a more free flowing type (K&N style etc.) and a must is installing a much better exhaust system. If at all possible, the head pipe on the exhaust needs to be a 19mm inside diameter. These will give you optimum power from the engine yet the high speed you want is not attainable with just trying sprocket changes. In stock engine form, if you go up in sprocket size to a 15T, the engine cannot pull 4th gear, falls flat way before 60 MPH. If you drop the counter shaft size down to a 13T, it will pull in all four gears much better and only affects the top speed by a couple MPH yet messes with the ABS as the failure light will flash occasionally. You should still be able to run a comfortable 55 - 57 MPH but the added low end will make trail riding much easier especially once you hit the mountains of Central America. Just finished a couple of tests running the bike now and hit a top speed of 102KPH (61MPH) with more throttle left, yet ran out of straight road. Check out some of my videos, they will help you decide how to set up for power and speed yet maintain reliability.... Have fun on the TAT next year.....
Thanks for the feedback and for your videos... I'm already a subscriber! I found your channel late last year when I was waiting for my CT125 to arrive. I intentionally didn't purchase the Honda extended warranty on this bike because I knew that I'd need to install engine upgrades after watching your videos and a few others out there! 😉 I've been contemplating the Yuminashi 143cc kit with the PCX150 injector. The 143cc kit will probably imbalance the engine somewhat due to the higher piston weight on the OEM crank. I might go all-out and install the Kitaco Neo 181cc 2V kit because it's a FULL kit (e.g., cylinder, forged crank, forged piston, new head w/ valves, camshaft, etc). The Neo should be a better-balanced solution, but it's obviously more expensive and involved (need to split the cases to install the crank, install heavier clutch springs, new fuel controller, oil cooler, etc). I'll be doing similar upgrades to my Super Cub C125 before my next Scooter Cannonball Run in 2023. My buddy, Adrian, and I rode our Super Cubs nearly 10K miles around the USA in July for that event. The Cannonball itself was a 4500-mile 10-day marathon from Bar Harbor, Maine to Eureka, California. We tacked on an additional 5000 miles for the round from Houston, TX and the start & end points. We pulled KipMoto SherpaX trailers ( kipmoto.com/pages/sherpax ) behind our Cubs for the entire trip, and we didn't have a single mechanical failure or issue of any kind! These little Hondas are nearly unstoppable! Both of us will probably install 143-181cc BBK's in our Cubs for the next run so we can be more competitive and so we can climb the mountains at speeds faster than 35 mph! 🤣 Cheers! --QM
@@QuasiMotard The mountains here in Northern Thailand is what made me decide to go with the BBK. I was just not able to pull second gear on any of the switch back climbs. Sucks when everyone else in your party is motoring up the mountain and then have to wait for you to get to the top..... Anxious to see how the BBK you decide on works out...... Talk later, good presentation........ Subbed.......
Replying to A Retired Okie: You seem to know more than most on the topic of modding the CT125. I don't know if you installed the Yuminashi big bore kit or another brand, but on their website they try to sell you on other upgrades like a new camshaft which gives better third to fourth gear transition as well as a 5 speed gear kit rather than the standard 4 speed - again, I guess that is to make for a less abrupt shift. Do you really need that extra stuff, or does just installing the big bore kit with the bigger injector (and more airflow) work "well enough"? Not sure if they are just trying to just sell extra stuff by saying that is what you need for it to really be optimized.
@@alexjohnson6462 I worked for 15 years as a mechanic in a car dealership. One thing I learned to not trust was a salesman. You would not believe some of the stuff they will say to sell you..... My bike works just fine with the stock camshaft. My bike works just fine with the 4 speed tranny. My bike runs really well with a BBK I bought from a hop up shop in Thailand that specializes in making this particular engine design go fast. It cost me a hundred US dollars. I had it installed for $30 US. The big key on my BBK was the larger fuel injector, made it so I didn't need to do anything to the ECU, which is a $200 US modification. With this said, if you don't put a decent exhaust system on the bike, it won't run out to its potential. My Diablo exhaust was great sounding and seemed to work great, but when I finally found an exhaust that was made for this engine design with the sole purpose to make better power, it was amazing how well it worked. Forgo the cam and the tranny mod and opt instead for a good exhaust system, a good air filter that opens up the intake amount, I'd go with a K&N if I lived in the states and ditch the stock 39T rear sprocket for a 42T rear sprocket. You'll really like the power difference and save a bunch of money doing it that way.... If you can get the 142cc/143cc BBK from Thailand for a decent price, do it. The 181cc BBK has a problem with early piston seizures..... Hope this helps.....
@@orlandopockets6372 I looked for an Orange and I couldn't find one, so I slapped some money into a wish list and out popped my CT. It looks like a CT, it rides like a CT, but it really is a rocket ship and what Honda should have produced instead of the "Lemon" it did produce..... Thanks for the comment, it gave me a chance to get my "Lemon" pun in about the lack of power.....
I hear Honda is thinking of stepping up the power band on these trail bikes to 150 cc class for the 2022 year models which will be great for the highway here in the states !!!!
I hadn't heard that rumor, but that would be fantastic! Honda certainly has a bunch of sub-200cc air-cooled motors in their inventory, so upgrading the Super Cub and CT125 to 150's shouldn't be any problem. Most countries are license-restricted at 125cc, so that's the common denominator for most of these "world bikes". Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard It was a video speculation of what Honda may do that I saw here on the tube and if they do apparently the CT150 might be yellow which I'm for !!!
I have set my Opmid high temperature warning to 140C and so far that has kept the light at bay, but early days yet. The two green shift indicator lights set at 5500 I find most annoying in 4th gear - perhaps Opmid should program them to be inhibited in 4th! I have had a Damascene moment in my quite senior years and the big BMW is going - the highways are history and byways are the future for me. Just being able to wheel the CT125 out of its shed, spin it round on the sidestand and depart through the sidegate is a revelation - plus I’m now doing more riding Like you, a 143 BBK is in my future although I don’t expect to see any change in top speed, rather just a bit more grunt for hills and headwinds My other wish is for tubeless tyres. I was planning to go down the DIY route but note that a Thai outfit (T2K) is offering sets of tasty looking laced rims at not an unreasonable price - sadly they just will not respond to my emails or FB communications at the moment Looking forward to the next videos
Thanks for the feedback and the tips! I need to reprogram the Opmid gauge to kill the shift lights (always makes me think I left my signal on) and raise the temp warning threshold. I called Nuetech TUbliss ( tubliss.com/tubliss/ ) several months ago and inquired whether they would make some 17" tubeless conversion kits. Unfortunately, they said that the demand isn't high enough to consider it right now. There are DIY tubeless conversion options, but they might not be as reliable as the TUbliss system. I'll be uploading more CT125 content soon! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Sweet CT125 video. The bike that brought me to your channel and i cant seem to get away. It really says something about that bike if you say your are going to keep it around. Great info now i have to exercise patience to see how the big bore goes and your Trans-America Trail. Thanks for letting me live through your adventures.
May want to reconsider the trailering idea. Vermont has about 8,000 miles of unpaved roads -- just 6,000 miles are paved -- and only 600,000 people. When small-town Vermonters give directions to their homes, there is always this part: "And then the pavement ends."Jun 24, 1996
Nice bike. I've been considering a Trail 125 for my retirement "grocery-getter", and your setup is similar to what I have in mind. By the way... that phone is almost as large as the windshield. 😀 Happy trails!
@@willmcqueen5917I bought a used Trail 90 back in the early 1990's... you know, for the wife to have 😉. It was a couple of decades old but was like new and only had 500 miles on the odometer. I always regretted selling it after she decided she hated motorcycles and I didn't have a great place to store it. The new 125 should be better in almost every way.
my commute to work is 14 miles. it's a mix of highway and regular street roads.. NJ to NYC... while I like the extra speed of the supercub, for whatever reason this bike is the one I want lol Love the add ons! I will for sure get the same windscreen and mirrors for starters...
I said it, and I did it! haha Talk that talk, walk that walk... can't believe there's people sitting around on waiting lists smh.. when there's a will there's a way... Still can't believe I managed to snag one! I just put my first 2 miles on it yesterday in just a few mins riding around a couple of blocks nearby. Did you ever end up gettin the Barkbusters? or are you still planning to do so? I'm sure you probably may have seen em, but if you haven't, they have position and indicator led strips that go on the cover, and it looks n seems pretty awesome.
Sorry for the double posting, but there is more to the opmid dash than just upping the warning temperature. There is 3 temp curve settings since it's fairly inaccurate due to its position. The instructions explain the different curves. I chose the 2nd of the 3-ish settings. The factory setting is way too conservative.
Thx for the tip! I need to dig through the programming manual to figure out why the warning lights are going bonkers. When I first installed it, I had the spark plug pickup wire on the ground side, so the tach and gear position indicator weren't working. I finally figured that out after poking around, but I never went back into the menus to fix the other stuff. 👍 --QM
The original Trail 90 from the 60s/70s had a off road sprocket /on road sprockets combine into one rear sprocket. It took tools to change but a much better option would be a Hi/Lo two speed output shaft in the transmission. Honda did this with great success in the 80’s with CB 750/900s
I remember seeing those setups with the separate rear sprocket. As I recall, it could be swapped into place with an extra few links of chain fairly easily. I owned a Trail 90 for a short time and then upgraded to a Trail 110 that had the high-low transmission output. That thing was fantastic for tractoring around in the woods and up steep hills. I wish that Honda would have included that dual-range output on the new Trail 125! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I own a 2024 honda ct 125 trail. Your choice of ZETA Adventure windshield is excellent. Where to buy, and what is a reasonable price? Your videos are the best!!!
Howdy, Timothy, and thanks for the support! You can find all of the product links are in the video description, and also in this previous video here: ruclips.net/video/lCY8dh7uSC4/видео.html . I purchased this ZETA Adventure windscreen from Webike Japan: japan.webike.net/products/24269043.html . Now there is a taller version as well: japan.webike.net/products/25616046.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Thanks, Komodo! It's a fun little bike for sure. I just need to find the right adventures for it that will avoid long high-speed stretches. If/when I up-gear it or install the big-bore kit, then it won't have as much trouble maintaining 55-ish mph on the back roads. Cheers! 👍 --QM
If this could go 60 reliably in light wind and up small hills it would be an awesome machine and I’d have one. I picked the Monkey instead which can go 60 in those situations.
Done! Here are links to the DRC Fishing Rod Holder: japan.webike.net/products/24625544.html , and the Mooneyes Fishing Box: www.mooneyes.jp/product/10854 . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Came here for Super Cub videos. Loving the Trail 125 videos too! Fantastic channel! Anyone ever tell you that sound exactly like comedian/actor Thomas Lennon?
Thanks for the feedback on the videos! Yes, I've had the voice reference to Lt. Dangle on Reno 911! 🤣 The other voice references that I've heard are: Nicolas Cage, Dave Ramsey, Johnny Depp, Abraham (Walking Dead), and Nick Offerman. They are all more famous and more successful than I am, so I take those as references compliments! 🤣👍 --QM
I really like trail and would like to get one if they are ever available haha. Also like the milk crate. I happen to have toolboxes that stack and clip together (ridgid brand orange) and they have a crate. I would recommend a similar set from Harbor Freight that are black and red for anyone interested. Then you can add other storage as needed.
Thanks! The real speed difference is due to the different aerodynamics, lower final drive gearing, and minor intake tuning that gives the CT more midrange at the cost of top-end power. The total weight added to my CT125 is only ~20 lbs, so that's really not a factor considering that I'm a lightweight rider (~170 lbs). My Super Cub C125 with similar loadout easily outpaces the CT125 by at least 10 MPH under most circumstances. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks for the information! I am in the market for one of the 3 bikes. Adv 150, PCX 150, Trail bike, or the Supercub. If you could only choice one which do you think is the best all around. Thanks!
Howdy, Mark, and thanks for the feedback! I haven't heard any news yet regarding the rumored CT150 or ADV300, but I'll be sure to post an update on that if/when it happens! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Did you ever consider an XT250 for this same use? A grand or $1,200 more I believe. Should add that it's 25- 30 lbs heavier perhaps and seat height less than half an inch higher. 11 inches ground clearance I think . probably do 70 mph all day. 65 mph maybe safer bet.
Howdy, Kevin! LOL! It's funny that you mention the XT250, because I already have one! That bike is actually the namesake of this YT channel. I put street radials on my XT250 for commuting and touring, so it was almost a "motard" bike. However, the front wheel was still too large (21" instead of 17") to be a true super-motard. So, it's almost a motard... quasi motard... à la "QuasiMotard"! 😁 If you're interested, you can watch my long-term owner's review on my 2008 Yamaha XT250 here: ruclips.net/video/CCSsegIqxR8/видео.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard ah ok.. Cool.. I'm thinking of one. My dad has a vanvan and sister has a TW. 😂 I just wanted something a bit faster 👍 it's for going out on camping trips. We all have street bikes too.
@@kevinnashskitchen3517 I bought an xt250 after watching some of Quasimotard's videos on it. It is a time proven bullet proof bike. I stupidly traded up and parted with it. Regret that move. I researched the 3 bikes you mentioned and think the XT250 will smoke the other 2. Bigger CC and EFI. Yamaha did such an outstanding job designing it. Its also still actually produced in Japan so its quality it excellent. Just sharing since you said you were pondering getting one.
@@findingneutral I think I would have more fun on an XT 225 or 250 than one of the slower small front wheel fat tire bikes. Just more safe on the 2 lanes when people aren't having to get around you so much. Seat height is wonderful for 5'9" with 30" inseam
Good Morning! Its 8:30am Saturday morning beautiful day in NJ. I have a red light come on using the Opmid. Any comment on how I correct this issue. You mentioned the same on this great video. Something you said about programming. Thanks
Good morning, Anthony, and thanks for the feedback! I still haven't reprogrammed the Opmid gauge on my CT125 to raise the temperature warning and disable the shift light warning. The instructions are in the Opmid owner/installation manual. I'm cleaning the garage today and preparing to (hopefully) do another Quasi SNL session tonight. Maybe that can be one of the topics or activities for the live stream? Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I also wonder about the advertised specs. The US published specs on the engine has a discrepency; the published bore and stroke measurements, exceed the CC's.
Maybe you're looking at incorrect specs? Honda's product page ( powersports.honda.com/street/minimoto/trail125/specifications ) states the bore and stroke are 52.4 mm x 57.9 mm, which calculates to 124.86 cc's. --QM
You traveled 400 miles on this little toy, I have to say that is quite impressive. Why not get a bigger bike like yamaha XT250 instead of all these modifications. It can easily run at 70 mph and much more capabilities.
Agreed! I already own a 2008 Yamaha XT250, and it's a great lightweight ADV bike. I've actually traveled a LOT farther with the little CT125 just recently during a 2000+ mile road trip to visit the Barber Small Bore Festival in Birmingham, Alabama: ruclips.net/video/xItNMZ--qSc/видео.html . I crushed 725 miles in one day on this little beast while pulling a single-wheel adventure trailer behind it! I purchased the CT125 as a nostalgia machine, and to serve as an even lighter-weight trail bike for my adventure camping trips. So far, the upgrades on my CT125 are simple bolt-on accessories for my touring needs. I'll definitely think long and hard before I install a big-bore kit and all of the supporting bits. Those upgrades really push the costs up higher than this little bike is worth (as mentioned at 15:34). Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Interested in the trail 125 and know you mentioned about changing the front sprocket. Curious if you have done this for higher street speeds and if it allowed there bike to get closer to 60. Ride a vulcan 900 and love it but always interested in the smaller cc bikes. Love the videos and appreciate your honest review of all the bikes
Howdy, Arthur, and sorry for the late reply... I just saw your comment. No, I haven't changed the sprockets on my CT125 yet. I've taken a few longer highway trips with it since this video was recorded. It's limited to 50-55 MPH max, but its happy speed is around 45 MPH. I pulled a trailer behind it all the way from Houston, TX to Birmingham, AL at 45-50 MPH... and it did great! ruclips.net/video/xItNMZ--qSc/видео.html Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
ADV150 or CT125...which would be the better all around bike considering them as the only bike/scooter option? Looking performance wise, not necessarily aesthetics wise.
The ADV150 would win that coin toss unless you planned to do off-road riding as your primary path. The ADV150 has a larger fuel tank, more power, and better acceleration and top speed. Those benefits make the AVD150 more practical in every day life than the CT125 because you aren't as limited on road choices. 😉👍 --QM
I'd take that accessory bar on the back of the handlebars off. If you're not using it. looks ill placed and would be dangerous in certain types of accidents.
I wasn't able to locate bolts of the correct length at any "normal" hardware store, so I had to order them from Fastenal. The bolts are M6-1.0 x 55mm length (qty 4): www.fastenal.com/products/details/MS2550055A20000 . I have a Fastenal store near me, so I made the online order and it arrived at the store in about a week for local pickup. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Thanks for the feedback! I only have about 1K miles on the CT125 right now, so it's still fresh. I'm hoping to get it out for some moto-camping this fall, so the miles will climb rapidly. 😉👍 --QM
That’s odd I couldn’t find them when I was watching through my iPad but now with the phone I can see them all. Thank you appreciate it have a Blessed week Stay Healthy and Safe out there talk soon
Hey great video. Seeing as you own both the Trail 125 and Super Cub, is the gear shift lever the same on both? Apparently the Trail 125 has a recall for it. Mine finally came in yesterday after 14 months of waiting and now they tell me I can't take it home until the recall is taken care of. The dealer sent out an email to someone to see if there interchangeable but it will probably be a few days before I hear back from them. If not who knows how long before they get the replacement part in.
Congrats on your new CT125! The shift levers are shaped differently between the SC and the CT. The CT's lever has more pronounced bends outward to clear the footpeg brackets. I received that recall notice for my bike, but I haven't done it yet. 😉👍
this is what i'm looking for and i want it for a reason. i dont know if they still do it or not but jeeps use to run from sabine pass to galveston year and never leave the beach unless they was forced to. and i want to do it to brownsville but know i will have to leave the beach so i need it street legal. and even camp on the beach when possible. and try to get my friends to do it also i have a few friends that have monkeys.and i want something different.
They have increased the power! This bike started out as a 50cc. It has sold more units then any car, truck, bus, ect ever built. I think your not looking at something that fits your needs.
I have the same issues as you and will be going with a BBK. I wonder what the limit is CC wise for the 2v stock head and adding a larger injector... I would like to go a bit bigger than ~150cc.
I think the largest bore diameter that the factory head can tolerate is a 61mm (170cc) kit. I could be wrong, though, so don't quote me. Most Grom modders agree that the factory head is too restrictive and needs a good porting job to flow better with a BBK. The other weak link is the OEM cast crankshaft, so most serious upgrades install a forged crankshaft. You can find lots of info in the Honda Grom forums (same basic engine). I'm planning to reach out to HardRacing.com to take advantage of their expertise on my next builds. My plans are to do a mild big-bore on the CT125 and a full-nasty upgrade on the Super Cub (Kitaco NEO 181 2V). I'm already planning my 2023 Scooter Cannonball Run, and the Super Cub will probably get a serious Frankenstein makeover for that trip. Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard awesome I will be keeping an eye out for future videos. I'll have to see how people's 170cc swaps go then. Like you said it gets kinda cost prohibitive to go too crazy. I just wanna hold gps 60mph.
That is the Jezero Mutli-Purpose Milk Crate (6-gal): amzn.to/38juCpU . All of the product links are in the video description for quick reference. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I love your accessory choices but one I cannot get one with is that milk crate. The honda looses a lot of cool factor with that thing back there. And I get it's useful but it's still cheap and ugly looking.
That crate might be ugly, but the utility factor is off the charts: instagram.com/p/COqHshbgum9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= . However, I don't always have it mounted back there. I take it off about half of the time, or whenever I need to haul bags or something flat on the rear rack. 😉👍 --QM
No problems yet (fingers crossed 🤞). I relocated my horn and removed that bracket to prevent clearance issues. I haven't slammed into the bump stops or hut the fender yet. I might need to put a 1" spacer collar inside the fork tubes to preload the springs and take up some stroke just as a precaution. 😉👍 --QM
Less than 12 pounds of added weight? I'm light enough (170 pounds riding weight) that it doesn't matter that much. The CT125 is geared lower and tuned for midrange more than the Super Cub, so that's my comparison point for people who are shopping those two bikes. --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yes, I was only joking. PS - Been watching some of your videos on the Super Cub complete with trailer. Really interesting. Some challenge. Thanks.
Yes, I found his channel ( @SomeGuyRides , https//ruclips.net/user/SomeGuyRides ) a few months ago... great stuff! I haven't had a chance to keep up with his adventure, but it's in my watch list for this weekend. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
There was only one size of the ZETA windscreen when I purchased this one, so I'm not sure if that has changed. You can find all of the direct product links are in the video description. 😉👍 --QM
Luckily, verything bolted on without any modifications to the bike. The front MotoSkill headlight guard came with bolts that were about 5mm too short, so I had to source longer ones to complete that installation. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard if you don’t mind me asking one more question, if you could choose between the two sizes? Would you stay with the one you purchased originally or go with the bigger one?
@ooapatron5257 The ZETA windscreen that I have doesn't offer much protection from wind or rain, but it does a decent job of breaking up airflow around my torso. I noticed a mild top speed increase after installing the screen. Here is a quick comparison from before the screen ( ruclips.net/video/bGYlhwbQTWs/видео.html ), and after the screen ( ruclips.net/video/xItNMZ--qSc/видео.html ). I think that a taller windscreen like the National Cycle Deflector ( amzn.to/3hNXgoy ) would perform better, but I would lose the ZETA's built-in navigation bar/mount... that's really handy. The new ZETA tall screen add-on ( japan.webike.net/products/25578666.html ) might be ideal. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
That's the ZETA Adventure windscreen from Webike Japan. You can find the product link for the screen and the other upgrades in the video description. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
The MotoSkill crash guard that I installed has provisions for the OEM skid plate. I removed that from the original bars and reattached it to the new guard. However, that OEM skid plate is very thin and flimsy, so I will probably replace it with something sturdier in the future. 😉👍 --QM
I purchased this from Eastside Honda Powersports in Baytown, TX. You can watch the full purchase and first ride video here: ruclips.net/video/XFs0md7YUbU/видео.html, and the unboxing video is here: ruclips.net/video/IUsaee6uZwQ/видео.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Question: Do you think the rack on your CT 125 would fit on your Super Cub? I'm thinking of getting a 2022 Super Cub, and I like your milk crate for grocery runs. I like the size of the rack on the CT 125 but I'm not sure there are good racks big enough for a milk crate. I wonder if the passenger cushion on the 2022 Super Cub can be removed and the suport rack for the cushion would be big enough. I guess I'll find out in a couple of months when the US.
Unfortunately, no... the rack mounting points are different between the SC and the CT125. I have installed the Kijima rear rack on my SC ( ruclips.net/video/p8dNW8pEHqc/видео.html ), and it holds the 6-gallon crate perfectly! I haven't seen any passenger seats that would work with the size of the Kijima rack, but I'm sure one could be fabricated without too much trouble. Of course, the US-spec SC doesn't come with passenger pegs (or the ability to mount them because the swingarm holes are epoxied shut). Ebay and other online sellers have passenger peg kits that clamp around the swingarm, so that's just a cosmetic/preference issue. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Hondaprokevin.com was showing a sneak preview of the 2022 C125 and it will have a passenger seat with pegs. I saw your reply, but it disapeared on my computer. Thank you for the video about the back rack you put on your Super Cub. I'll look in your arcives to get the details. I like all your videos. Well done!
I'm guessing about 12-15 pounds total. The biggest weight offenders will be the MotoSkill engine guard and the front rack. I have a duplicateotoSkill engine guard that I'll weigh to get a better estimate. The windscreen is only a couple of pounds, and the other bits are just a few ounces each. The second engine guard will be a giveaway on my channel soon! 😉👍 --QM
Yes, the original gauge has a fuel meter. The primary reason that I upgraded to the OPMID gauge was because the OEM unit was nearly impossible to read in daylight. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
50 mph is nearly the top speed of the CT125, so it can't maintain that speed if there are any headwinds or road inclines. You can see a brief highway run at 9:13 in this video ( or here: ruclips.net/video/VlGZHvnBHQ0/видео.html ). I will be editing and posting my that motocamping series soon. We had fun on the back roads, but any hopes of traveling near 55 mph were futile. The CT125 is much more comfortable cruising at or below 45 mph in its stock form. Perhaps a +1 or +2 front sprocket and/or a big-bore kit will remedy that situation. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Agreed. The key to speed on this bike is keeping weight off it - and going downhill with the wind at your back, regardless I always have a blast while riding mine at any speed.
1000 more dollars gets you a royal enfield himalayan that is highway worthy at 65 mph comfortable but can go 70 if you push it. And its a tractor and still low seat height, this bike needs to be 3k or its no use
Nope... nothing of the sort. I just choose to put my hard-earned money into my hobbies, and I actually use these little bikes to their fullest extent. --QM
I think the power limitations of these little bikes adds to the experience of owning them. It kinda forces you to find routes you wouldn’t normally take. Freeway travel? Pshh…. That’s what cars are for. I even avoid them on my Harley. Back roads are much more scenic.
Agreed! That's why I gravitate toward touring on smaller bikes... it forces you to slow down and enjoy the scenery instead of rushing through it to reach the destination. I just completed a 9600+ mile trip around the USA on my Super Cub for the Scooter Cannonball Run in July. Stay tuned for that series!
The unfortunate situation with the CT125 is that its top speed is much lower than the Super Cub, so traveling on Texas's back highways is very challenging. Most of our rural highways have speed limits of 65-75 MPH now, so that means cager traffic is blasting through at 75-90 MPH. The CT125 tops out around 50 MPH, so that can result in a 25-40 MPH overtake difference. It's no fun to see an 18-wheeler come flying over a hill behind you at 80+ MPH on a 2-lane highway!
I'll probably install the 143cc big-bore kit on this bike to wake up the motor a little bit. The slight bump in displacement and compression takes the motor from 8 to ~11 HP. That should be enough to let it cruise at 55-60 "comfortably" with a 15T front sprocket. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I wonder if a BBK would be better with the 14T up front and a 37 or 36 at the back for road use?
Excellent analogy Gas Works. I agree with you 100%. You may or may not recall, but your Monkey intro is what helped me to get back on a bike after 10 years. I still have that yellow Monkey with 5k on the odometer now. Have a Trail125 as well. Its definately a bike to ride by some of your rules that I recall and follow - pick safe low traffic routes, time of day, and what terrain is safe and applicable. Quasimotard your description is so spot on for the Trail125. We just talked about pros vs cons between it and the Super Cub. Well, us talking and me watching one too many Trail125 videos 'forced me' to go back and retrieve my beloved Trail125 from the dealer I traded it into for my CB500X (you analogy of the CB500X is spot on too as well - LOVE that bike)This bike is slow-mo-jo but its vintage appeal is off the charts. Your bike is one of the best set ups I've seen accessories wise. Looks awesome👌. Plus you obtained 'Village Hooligan' status on it that day you thrashed the muddy grassy service roads 😀👍. I plan on maybe just slapping some knobbies on mine one day to putter around dirt roads as well as the country back roads I live near. Even though I will not mod my engine I look forward to seeing what you decide to go with. I feel your an ambassador for the Honda Super Cub with all the awesome videos and knowledge you've shared with us all about it. Same goes for the Trail125. Heard about the rumored 150cc version just mentioned in Japan?
@@QuasiMotard I am sure many of us have been hoping for the story of your Cannonball adventure. Good to hear it's on the way. Look forward to that!
As relatively new to the 125 segment, I have come to the same conclusion as Gas Works. To my surprise. Well said!
They just need to bring back the honda Express now. I loved mine back in the late 79’s!
And the Helix!
Omg. I love the windscreen and milk crate. It looks funny, cool, and they serve a purpose. This bike is setup well. Great choice on the black milk crate. Red would’ve been too much. Thanks for the information regarding the other relevant bikes.
Thanks for the feedback!
all those updates are absurd on such a bike, therefore necessary. LOVE IT! thanks for sharing your upgrades.
Having done some serious testing on the lack of power for the Honda CT125, I've installed a 142cc Big Bore Kit as well as installing a 42T rear sprocket for better low end here in Thailand. The kit I purchased included a fuel injector that is standard on a Honda PCX150. No reason to mess with the ECU on it, but it helps if you upgrade the air filter to a more free flowing type (K&N style etc.) and a must is installing a much better exhaust system. If at all possible, the head pipe on the exhaust needs to be a 19mm inside diameter. These will give you optimum power from the engine yet the high speed you want is not attainable with just trying sprocket changes. In stock engine form, if you go up in sprocket size to a 15T, the engine cannot pull 4th gear, falls flat way before 60 MPH. If you drop the counter shaft size down to a 13T, it will pull in all four gears much better and only affects the top speed by a couple MPH yet messes with the ABS as the failure light will flash occasionally. You should still be able to run a comfortable 55 - 57 MPH but the added low end will make trail riding much easier especially once you hit the mountains of Central America. Just finished a couple of tests running the bike now and hit a top speed of 102KPH (61MPH) with more throttle left, yet ran out of straight road. Check out some of my videos, they will help you decide how to set up for power and speed yet maintain reliability.... Have fun on the TAT next year.....
Thanks for the feedback and for your videos... I'm already a subscriber! I found your channel late last year when I was waiting for my CT125 to arrive. I intentionally didn't purchase the Honda extended warranty on this bike because I knew that I'd need to install engine upgrades after watching your videos and a few others out there! 😉
I've been contemplating the Yuminashi 143cc kit with the PCX150 injector. The 143cc kit will probably imbalance the engine somewhat due to the higher piston weight on the OEM crank. I might go all-out and install the Kitaco Neo 181cc 2V kit because it's a FULL kit (e.g., cylinder, forged crank, forged piston, new head w/ valves, camshaft, etc). The Neo should be a better-balanced solution, but it's obviously more expensive and involved (need to split the cases to install the crank, install heavier clutch springs, new fuel controller, oil cooler, etc).
I'll be doing similar upgrades to my Super Cub C125 before my next Scooter Cannonball Run in 2023. My buddy, Adrian, and I rode our Super Cubs nearly 10K miles around the USA in July for that event. The Cannonball itself was a 4500-mile 10-day marathon from Bar Harbor, Maine to Eureka, California. We tacked on an additional 5000 miles for the round from Houston, TX and the start & end points. We pulled KipMoto SherpaX trailers ( kipmoto.com/pages/sherpax ) behind our Cubs for the entire trip, and we didn't have a single mechanical failure or issue of any kind! These little Hondas are nearly unstoppable! Both of us will probably install 143-181cc BBK's in our Cubs for the next run so we can be more competitive and so we can climb the mountains at speeds faster than 35 mph! 🤣 Cheers! --QM
@@QuasiMotard The mountains here in Northern Thailand is what made me decide to go with the BBK. I was just not able to pull second gear on any of the switch back climbs. Sucks when everyone else in your party is motoring up the mountain and then have to wait for you to get to the top..... Anxious to see how the BBK you decide on works out...... Talk later, good presentation........ Subbed.......
Replying to A Retired Okie:
You seem to know more than most on the topic of modding the CT125. I don't know if you installed the Yuminashi big bore kit or another brand, but on their website they try to sell you on other upgrades like a new camshaft which gives better third to fourth gear transition as well as a 5 speed gear kit rather than the standard 4 speed - again, I guess that is to make for a less abrupt shift.
Do you really need that extra stuff, or does just installing the big bore kit with the bigger injector (and more airflow) work "well enough"? Not sure if they are just trying to just sell extra stuff by saying that is what you need for it to really be optimized.
@@alexjohnson6462 I worked for 15 years as a mechanic in a car dealership. One thing I learned to not trust was a salesman. You would not believe some of the stuff they will say to sell you..... My bike works just fine with the stock camshaft. My bike works just fine with the 4 speed tranny. My bike runs really well with a BBK I bought from a hop up shop in Thailand that specializes in making this particular engine design go fast. It cost me a hundred US dollars. I had it installed for $30 US. The big key on my BBK was the larger fuel injector, made it so I didn't need to do anything to the ECU, which is a $200 US modification. With this said, if you don't put a decent exhaust system on the bike, it won't run out to its potential. My Diablo exhaust was great sounding and seemed to work great, but when I finally found an exhaust that was made for this engine design with the sole purpose to make better power, it was amazing how well it worked. Forgo the cam and the tranny mod and opt instead for a good exhaust system, a good air filter that opens up the intake amount, I'd go with a K&N if I lived in the states and ditch the stock 39T rear sprocket for a 42T rear sprocket. You'll really like the power difference and save a bunch of money doing it that way.... If you can get the 142cc/143cc BBK from Thailand for a decent price, do it. The 181cc BBK has a problem with early piston seizures..... Hope this helps.....
@@orlandopockets6372 I looked for an Orange and I couldn't find one, so I slapped some money into a wish list and out popped my CT. It looks like a CT, it rides like a CT, but it really is a rocket ship and what Honda should have produced instead of the "Lemon" it did produce..... Thanks for the comment, it gave me a chance to get my "Lemon" pun in about the lack of power.....
Up until now I thought a big bore kit was a 142, now I know they go all the way up to a 180 cc big bore kits. Thx for the vid
Extreme utility at it’s finest.
I hear Honda is thinking of stepping up the power band on these trail bikes to 150 cc class for the 2022 year models which will be great for the highway here in the states !!!!
I hadn't heard that rumor, but that would be fantastic! Honda certainly has a bunch of sub-200cc air-cooled motors in their inventory, so upgrading the Super Cub and CT125 to 150's shouldn't be any problem. Most countries are license-restricted at 125cc, so that's the common denominator for most of these "world bikes". Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard It was a video speculation of what Honda may do that I saw here on the tube and if they do apparently the CT150 might be yellow which I'm for !!!
@@jeffreyelliott622 sadly it didn't happen 😔
I have set my Opmid high temperature warning to 140C and so far that has kept the light at bay, but early days yet. The two green shift indicator lights set at 5500 I find most annoying in 4th gear - perhaps Opmid should program them to be inhibited in 4th!
I have had a Damascene moment in my quite senior years and the big BMW is going - the highways are history and byways are the future for me. Just being able to wheel the CT125 out of its shed, spin it round on the sidestand and depart through the sidegate is a revelation - plus I’m now doing more riding
Like you, a 143 BBK is in my future although I don’t expect to see any change in top speed, rather just a bit more grunt for hills and headwinds
My other wish is for tubeless tyres. I was planning to go down the DIY route but note that a Thai outfit (T2K) is offering sets of tasty looking laced rims at not an unreasonable price - sadly they just will not respond to my emails or FB communications at the moment
Looking forward to the next videos
Thanks for the feedback and the tips! I need to reprogram the Opmid gauge to kill the shift lights (always makes me think I left my signal on) and raise the temp warning threshold.
I called Nuetech TUbliss ( tubliss.com/tubliss/ ) several months ago and inquired whether they would make some 17" tubeless conversion kits. Unfortunately, they said that the demand isn't high enough to consider it right now. There are DIY tubeless conversion options, but they might not be as reliable as the TUbliss system.
I'll be uploading more CT125 content soon! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I've got 2000 miles on mine. It did really well in the Mt. Hood National Forest where I put 800 miles on it in 5 months.
Sweet CT125 video. The bike that brought me to your channel and i cant seem to get away. It really says something about that bike if you say your are going to keep it around. Great info now i have to exercise patience to see how the big bore goes and your Trans-America Trail. Thanks for letting me live through your adventures.
this is the most tricked out trail 125 I've seen. NiCE
May want to reconsider the trailering idea.
Vermont has about 8,000 miles of unpaved roads -- just 6,000 miles are paved -- and only 600,000 people. When small-town Vermonters give directions to their homes, there is always this part: "And then the pavement ends."Jun 24, 1996
Nice bike. I've been considering a Trail 125 for my retirement "grocery-getter", and your setup is similar to what I have in mind. By the way... that phone is almost as large as the windshield. 😀
Happy trails!
I have been looking at these for a while. Going ahead an getting mine this weekend I hope! Going to be my retirement gift to myself a year early.
@@willmcqueen5917I bought a used Trail 90 back in the early 1990's... you know, for the wife to have 😉. It was a couple of decades old but was like new and only had 500 miles on the odometer. I always regretted selling it after she decided she hated motorcycles and I didn't have a great place to store it. The new 125 should be better in almost every way.
That front rack you installed seems that it might be a good place to put a Houston type Christmas wreath.
You know like Metro does, and others.
my commute to work is 14 miles. it's a mix of highway and regular street roads.. NJ to NYC... while I like the extra speed of the supercub, for whatever reason this bike is the one I want lol Love the add ons! I will for sure get the same windscreen and mirrors for starters...
I said it, and I did it! haha Talk that talk, walk that walk... can't believe there's people sitting around on waiting lists smh.. when there's a will there's a way... Still can't believe I managed to snag one! I just put my first 2 miles on it yesterday in just a few mins riding around a couple of blocks nearby. Did you ever end up gettin the Barkbusters? or are you still planning to do so? I'm sure you probably may have seen em, but if you haven't, they have position and indicator led strips that go on the cover, and it looks n seems pretty awesome.
Sorry for the double posting, but there is more to the opmid dash than just upping the warning temperature. There is 3 temp curve settings since it's fairly inaccurate due to its position. The instructions explain the different curves. I chose the 2nd of the 3-ish settings. The factory setting is way too conservative.
Thx for the tip! I need to dig through the programming manual to figure out why the warning lights are going bonkers. When I first installed it, I had the spark plug pickup wire on the ground side, so the tach and gear position indicator weren't working. I finally figured that out after poking around, but I never went back into the menus to fix the other stuff. 👍 --QM
The original Trail 90 from the 60s/70s had a off road sprocket /on road sprockets combine into one rear sprocket. It took tools to change but a much better option would be a Hi/Lo two speed output shaft in the transmission. Honda did this with great success in the 80’s with CB 750/900s
I remember seeing those setups with the separate rear sprocket. As I recall, it could be swapped into place with an extra few links of chain fairly easily. I owned a Trail 90 for a short time and then upgraded to a Trail 110 that had the high-low transmission output. That thing was fantastic for tractoring around in the woods and up steep hills. I wish that Honda would have included that dual-range output on the new Trail 125! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
The CT 90 had a high low selector switch.
I own a 2024 honda ct 125 trail. Your choice of ZETA Adventure windshield is excellent. Where to buy, and what is a reasonable price? Your videos are the best!!!
Howdy, Timothy, and thanks for the support! You can find all of the product links are in the video description, and also in this previous video here: ruclips.net/video/lCY8dh7uSC4/видео.html .
I purchased this ZETA Adventure windscreen from Webike Japan: japan.webike.net/products/24269043.html . Now there is a taller version as well: japan.webike.net/products/25616046.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
But what a sweet little bike to have in a collection! Looks awesome buddy 👍
Thanks, Komodo! It's a fun little bike for sure. I just need to find the right adventures for it that will avoid long high-speed stretches. If/when I up-gear it or install the big-bore kit, then it won't have as much trouble maintaining 55-ish mph on the back roads. Cheers! 👍 --QM
If this could go 60 reliably in light wind and up small hills it would be an awesome machine and I’d have one. I picked the Monkey instead which can go 60 in those situations.
Just what I need. Put me some fishing pole holders on it and putt around the lake i live on . Thanks for the video
Done! Here are links to the DRC Fishing Rod Holder: japan.webike.net/products/24625544.html , and the Mooneyes Fishing Box: www.mooneyes.jp/product/10854 . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Your Ct125 is looking pretty spiffy. I'm still waiting patiently for my Hunter Cub to arrive.
Came here for Super Cub videos. Loving the Trail 125 videos too! Fantastic channel! Anyone ever tell you that sound exactly like comedian/actor Thomas Lennon?
Thanks for the feedback on the videos! Yes, I've had the voice reference to Lt. Dangle on Reno 911! 🤣 The other voice references that I've heard are: Nicolas Cage, Dave Ramsey, Johnny Depp, Abraham (Walking Dead), and Nick Offerman. They are all more famous and more successful than I am, so I take those as references compliments! 🤣👍 --QM
I really like trail and would like to get one if they are ever available haha. Also like the milk crate. I happen to have toolboxes that stack and clip together (ridgid brand orange) and they have a crate. I would recommend a similar set from Harbor Freight that are black and red for anyone interested. Then you can add other storage as needed.
Nice bike! The reason it may be slower than the super cub you own is all the weight you have added to the bike.
Thanks! The real speed difference is due to the different aerodynamics, lower final drive gearing, and minor intake tuning that gives the CT more midrange at the cost of top-end power.
The total weight added to my CT125 is only ~20 lbs, so that's really not a factor considering that I'm a lightweight rider (~170 lbs). My Super Cub C125 with similar loadout easily outpaces the CT125 by at least 10 MPH under most circumstances. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks for the information! I am in the market for one of the 3 bikes. Adv 150, PCX 150, Trail bike, or the Supercub. If you could only choice one which do you think is the best all around. Thanks!
Glad to finally see an update on the CT125! Any word on the possibility of the CT150?
Howdy, Mark, and thanks for the feedback! I haven't heard any news yet regarding the rumored CT150 or ADV300, but I'll be sure to post an update on that if/when it happens! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Those ct125s are near perfect bikes, little to no upgrades are needed. If it doesn't suit your use-case, consider getting an africa twin.
Did you ever consider an XT250 for this same use? A grand or $1,200 more I believe. Should add that it's 25- 30 lbs heavier perhaps and seat height less than half an inch higher. 11 inches ground clearance I think . probably do 70 mph all day. 65 mph maybe safer bet.
Howdy, Kevin! LOL! It's funny that you mention the XT250, because I already have one! That bike is actually the namesake of this YT channel. I put street radials on my XT250 for commuting and touring, so it was almost a "motard" bike. However, the front wheel was still too large (21" instead of 17") to be a true super-motard. So, it's almost a motard... quasi motard... à la "QuasiMotard"! 😁
If you're interested, you can watch my long-term owner's review on my 2008 Yamaha XT250 here: ruclips.net/video/CCSsegIqxR8/видео.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard ah ok.. Cool.. I'm thinking of one. My dad has a vanvan and sister has a TW. 😂 I just wanted something a bit faster 👍 it's for going out on camping trips. We all have street bikes too.
@@kevinnashskitchen3517 I bought an xt250 after watching some of Quasimotard's videos on it. It is a time proven bullet proof bike. I stupidly traded up and parted with it. Regret that move. I researched the 3 bikes you mentioned and think the XT250 will smoke the other 2. Bigger CC and EFI. Yamaha did such an outstanding job designing it. Its also still actually produced in Japan so its quality it excellent. Just sharing since you said you were pondering getting one.
@@findingneutral I think I would have more fun on an XT 225 or 250 than one of the slower small front wheel fat tire bikes. Just more safe on the 2 lanes when people aren't having to get around you so much. Seat height is wonderful for 5'9" with 30" inseam
@@kevinnashskitchen3517 I'd still go with the xt250 vs the 225. It can easily cruise comfortably stock at 60mph. Good luck with your search. 👍
Good Morning! Its 8:30am Saturday morning beautiful day in NJ. I have a red light come on using the Opmid. Any comment on how I correct this issue. You mentioned the same on this great video. Something you said about programming. Thanks
Good morning, Anthony, and thanks for the feedback! I still haven't reprogrammed the Opmid gauge on my CT125 to raise the temperature warning and disable the shift light warning. The instructions are in the Opmid owner/installation manual.
I'm cleaning the garage today and preparing to (hopefully) do another Quasi SNL session tonight. Maybe that can be one of the topics or activities for the live stream? Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Nice bike wouldn't mess with it.
beautiful adventure bike....
I also wonder about the advertised specs.
The US published specs on the engine has a discrepency; the published bore and stroke measurements, exceed the CC's.
Maybe you're looking at incorrect specs? Honda's product page ( powersports.honda.com/street/minimoto/trail125/specifications ) states the bore and stroke are 52.4 mm x 57.9 mm, which calculates to 124.86 cc's. --QM
You traveled 400 miles on this little toy, I have to say that is quite impressive. Why not get a bigger bike like yamaha XT250 instead of all these modifications. It can easily run at 70 mph and much more capabilities.
Agreed! I already own a 2008 Yamaha XT250, and it's a great lightweight ADV bike. I've actually traveled a LOT farther with the little CT125 just recently during a 2000+ mile road trip to visit the Barber Small Bore Festival in Birmingham, Alabama: ruclips.net/video/xItNMZ--qSc/видео.html . I crushed 725 miles in one day on this little beast while pulling a single-wheel adventure trailer behind it!
I purchased the CT125 as a nostalgia machine, and to serve as an even lighter-weight trail bike for my adventure camping trips. So far, the upgrades on my CT125 are simple bolt-on accessories for my touring needs. I'll definitely think long and hard before I install a big-bore kit and all of the supporting bits. Those upgrades really push the costs up higher than this little bike is worth (as mentioned at 15:34). Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Interested in the trail 125 and know you mentioned about changing the front sprocket. Curious if you have done this for higher street speeds and if it allowed there bike to get closer to 60. Ride a vulcan 900 and love it but always interested in the smaller cc bikes. Love the videos and appreciate your honest review of all the bikes
Howdy, Arthur, and sorry for the late reply... I just saw your comment.
No, I haven't changed the sprockets on my CT125 yet. I've taken a few longer highway trips with it since this video was recorded. It's limited to 50-55 MPH max, but its happy speed is around 45 MPH. I pulled a trailer behind it all the way from Houston, TX to Birmingham, AL at 45-50 MPH... and it did great! ruclips.net/video/xItNMZ--qSc/видео.html Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
ADV150 or CT125...which would be the better all around bike considering them as the only bike/scooter option? Looking performance wise, not necessarily aesthetics wise.
The ADV150 would win that coin toss unless you planned to do off-road riding as your primary path. The ADV150 has a larger fuel tank, more power, and better acceleration and top speed. Those benefits make the AVD150 more practical in every day life than the CT125 because you aren't as limited on road choices. 😉👍 --QM
Now dealerships are asking around $6000 for a STOCK Honda 125 out the door 🤯
I'd take that accessory bar on the back of the handlebars off. If you're not using it. looks ill placed and would be dangerous in certain types of accidents.
I just ordered the moto skill light guard/rack. Should I just go to the hardware store and get longer bolts? If so, what length? Thanks!
I wasn't able to locate bolts of the correct length at any "normal" hardware store, so I had to order them from Fastenal. The bolts are M6-1.0 x 55mm length (qty 4): www.fastenal.com/products/details/MS2550055A20000 . I have a Fastenal store near me, so I made the online order and it arrived at the store in about a week for local pickup. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
How many miles on the trail 125? Have been enjoying your SC videos
Thanks for the feedback! I only have about 1K miles on the CT125 right now, so it's still fresh. I'm hoping to get it out for some moto-camping this fall, so the miles will climb rapidly. 😉👍 --QM
Awesome upgrades. Are you able to share links for all your upgrades?
Thanks for the feedback! Links for most of the items shown or discussed are in the video's description. 😉👍 --QM
That’s odd I couldn’t find them when I was watching through my iPad but now with the phone I can see them all. Thank you appreciate it have a Blessed week Stay Healthy and Safe out there talk soon
just get a Yamaha TW200!! nice bike though, love your add ons..
Thanks, Paul! Congrats on your new Tdub! Those are great trail bikes for off-road and loose surfaces. 😉👍 --QM
Hey great video. Seeing as you own both the Trail 125 and Super Cub, is the gear shift lever the same on both? Apparently the Trail 125 has a recall for it. Mine finally came in yesterday after 14 months of waiting and now they tell me I can't take it home until the recall is taken care of. The dealer sent out an email to someone to see if there interchangeable but it will probably be a few days before I hear back from them. If not who knows how long before they get the replacement part in.
Congrats on your new CT125! The shift levers are shaped differently between the SC and the CT. The CT's lever has more pronounced bends outward to clear the footpeg brackets. I received that recall notice for my bike, but I haven't done it yet. 😉👍
this is what i'm looking for and i want it for a reason. i dont know if they still do it or not but jeeps use to run from sabine pass to galveston year and never leave the beach unless they was forced to. and i want to do it to brownsville but know i will have to leave the beach so i need it street legal. and even camp on the beach when possible. and try to get my friends to do it also i have a few friends that have monkeys.and i want something different.
oh and i have a honda silverwing so if i want to go fast i can but thats not what i'm looking for
Hopefully, Honda will get enough complaints from around the world that they will increase the power capacity.
They have increased the power! This bike started out as a 50cc. It has sold more units then any car, truck, bus, ect ever built. I think your not looking at something that fits your needs.
I have the same issues as you and will be going with a BBK. I wonder what the limit is CC wise for the 2v stock head and adding a larger injector... I would like to go a bit bigger than ~150cc.
I think the largest bore diameter that the factory head can tolerate is a 61mm (170cc) kit. I could be wrong, though, so don't quote me. Most Grom modders agree that the factory head is too restrictive and needs a good porting job to flow better with a BBK. The other weak link is the OEM cast crankshaft, so most serious upgrades install a forged crankshaft.
You can find lots of info in the Honda Grom forums (same basic engine). I'm planning to reach out to HardRacing.com to take advantage of their expertise on my next builds. My plans are to do a mild big-bore on the CT125 and a full-nasty upgrade on the Super Cub (Kitaco NEO 181 2V). I'm already planning my 2023 Scooter Cannonball Run, and the Super Cub will probably get a serious Frankenstein makeover for that trip. Cheers! 👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard awesome I will be keeping an eye out for future videos. I'll have to see how people's 170cc swaps go then. Like you said it gets kinda cost prohibitive to go too crazy. I just wanna hold gps 60mph.
Great job. It looks fantastic. Driving pleasure.
QuasiMotard could you please tell me where you got the 6 gallon Milk Crate from . Steve
That is the Jezero Mutli-Purpose Milk Crate (6-gal): amzn.to/38juCpU . All of the product links are in the video description for quick reference. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I can’t find this bike anywhere 😞
I love your accessory choices but one I cannot get one with is that milk crate. The honda looses a lot of cool factor with that thing back there. And I get it's useful but it's still cheap and ugly looking.
That crate might be ugly, but the utility factor is off the charts: instagram.com/p/COqHshbgum9/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= . However, I don't always have it mounted back there. I take it off about half of the time, or whenever I need to haul bags or something flat on the rear rack. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Ha sounds good, it's a trail bike after all and there is a reason it came with a back rack and not a seat.
Have you ever considered re-gearing for a bit more top speed
😶I no more typed that and you mentioned it
Any issues with the soft font shocks hitting the horn or the engine guard?
No problems yet (fingers crossed 🤞). I relocated my horn and removed that bracket to prevent clearance issues. I haven't slammed into the bump stops or hut the fender yet. I might need to put a 1" spacer collar inside the fork tubes to preload the springs and take up some stroke just as a precaution. 😉👍 --QM
I'm not surprised that dinky little engine struggles with all those add ons :)
Less than 12 pounds of added weight? I'm light enough (170 pounds riding weight) that it doesn't matter that much. The CT125 is geared lower and tuned for midrange more than the Super Cub, so that's my comparison point for people who are shopping those two bikes. --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yes, I was only joking. PS - Been watching some of your videos on the Super Cub complete with trailer. Really interesting. Some challenge. Thanks.
Did you see the RUclips guy doing the TAT on a CT125?
Yes, I found his channel ( @SomeGuyRides , https//ruclips.net/user/SomeGuyRides ) a few months ago... great stuff! I haven't had a chance to keep up with his adventure, but it's in my watch list for this weekend. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Fun fact gps is a terrible way to determine actual speed as aposed to your speedometer
Is the windshield the larger one or do you know the item number you purchased from webike?
There was only one size of the ZETA windscreen when I purchased this one, so I'm not sure if that has changed. You can find all of the direct product links are in the video description. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard thanks! I assume you didn’t have to make any modifications with the MotoSkill rack? That was my concern.
Luckily, verything bolted on without any modifications to the bike. The front MotoSkill headlight guard came with bolts that were about 5mm too short, so I had to source longer ones to complete that installation. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard if you don’t mind me asking one more question, if you could choose between the two sizes? Would you stay with the one you purchased originally or go with the bigger one?
@ooapatron5257 The ZETA windscreen that I have doesn't offer much protection from wind or rain, but it does a decent job of breaking up airflow around my torso. I noticed a mild top speed increase after installing the screen. Here is a quick comparison from before the screen ( ruclips.net/video/bGYlhwbQTWs/видео.html ), and after the screen ( ruclips.net/video/xItNMZ--qSc/видео.html ).
I think that a taller windscreen like the National Cycle Deflector ( amzn.to/3hNXgoy ) would perform better, but I would lose the ZETA's built-in navigation bar/mount... that's really handy. The new ZETA tall screen add-on ( japan.webike.net/products/25578666.html ) might be ideal. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Would you send me the link to get the windscreen?
That's the ZETA Adventure windscreen from Webike Japan. You can find the product link for the screen and the other upgrades in the video description. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
On the engine guard is the skid plate the original and they do away with the silver bars that hold it?
The MotoSkill crash guard that I installed has provisions for the OEM skid plate. I removed that from the original bars and reattached it to the new guard. However, that OEM skid plate is very thin and flimsy, so I will probably replace it with something sturdier in the future. 😉👍 --QM
Does that windscreen make a difference at 45mpg?
Hi, where did you buy this buy in Houston?
I purchased this from Eastside Honda Powersports in Baytown, TX. You can watch the full purchase and first ride video here: ruclips.net/video/XFs0md7YUbU/видео.html, and the unboxing video is here: ruclips.net/video/IUsaee6uZwQ/видео.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
you got the money this bike with this setup might cost almost 6 grand$$
Question: Do you think the rack on your CT 125 would fit on your Super Cub? I'm thinking of getting a 2022 Super Cub, and I like your milk crate for grocery runs. I like the size of the rack on the CT 125 but I'm not sure there are good racks big enough for a milk crate. I wonder if the passenger cushion on the 2022 Super Cub can be removed and the suport rack for the cushion would be big enough. I guess I'll find out in a couple of months when the US.
Unfortunately, no... the rack mounting points are different between the SC and the CT125. I have installed the Kijima rear rack on my SC ( ruclips.net/video/p8dNW8pEHqc/видео.html ), and it holds the 6-gallon crate perfectly!
I haven't seen any passenger seats that would work with the size of the Kijima rack, but I'm sure one could be fabricated without too much trouble. Of course, the US-spec SC doesn't come with passenger pegs (or the ability to mount them because the swingarm holes are epoxied shut). Ebay and other online sellers have passenger peg kits that clamp around the swingarm, so that's just a cosmetic/preference issue. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Hondaprokevin.com was showing a sneak preview of the 2022 C125 and it will have a passenger seat with pegs. I saw your reply, but it disapeared on my computer. Thank you for the video about the back rack you put on your Super Cub. I'll look in your arcives to get the details. I like all your videos. Well done!
Approximately how much weight do you think the mods added?
I'm guessing about 12-15 pounds total. The biggest weight offenders will be the MotoSkill engine guard and the front rack. I have a duplicateotoSkill engine guard that I'll weigh to get a better estimate. The windscreen is only a couple of pounds, and the other bits are just a few ounces each. The second engine guard will be a giveaway on my channel soon! 😉👍 --QM
thats a MPV with lots of accessories.
Is the wind screen model 1031?
Thanks
Yes, all of the product links are in the video description. Webike's page shows the Zeta part number as "ZE70-1031". Cheers! 👍 --QM
Does the stock speedometer have a fuel gauge?
Yes, the original gauge has a fuel meter. The primary reason that I upgraded to the OPMID gauge was because the OEM unit was nearly impossible to read in daylight. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
How much of a struggle is it to go 50
50 mph is nearly the top speed of the CT125, so it can't maintain that speed if there are any headwinds or road inclines. You can see a brief highway run at 9:13 in this video ( or here: ruclips.net/video/VlGZHvnBHQ0/видео.html ).
I will be editing and posting my that motocamping series soon. We had fun on the back roads, but any hopes of traveling near 55 mph were futile. The CT125 is much more comfortable cruising at or below 45 mph in its stock form. Perhaps a +1 or +2 front sprocket and/or a big-bore kit will remedy that situation. Cheers! 👍 --QM
it looks like you have like 50 lbs of add ons on the bike
Agreed. The key to speed on this bike is keeping weight off it - and going downhill with the wind at your back, regardless I always have a blast while riding mine at any speed.
Nah... total weight of all the accessories is about 16 pounds. --QM
Let me guess: Your nickname on the streets is "Squidward."
This should have at least been a 150cc…
Honda you be slippin! Lol
1000 more dollars gets you a royal enfield himalayan that is highway worthy at 65 mph comfortable but can go 70 if you push it. And its a tractor and still low seat height, this bike needs to be 3k or its no use
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Ditch the milk crate for Gods sake!! You look like you are dumpster diving!😂
Get a Yamaha TW200 and forget about it. 👌🏽
tell me that you have too much time and money on your hands without telling us exactly that ! #overkill
Nope... nothing of the sort. I just choose to put my hard-earned money into my hobbies, and I actually use these little bikes to their fullest extent. --QM
Over kill on accessories.
Never, looks great!
It’s “pimped out”.
No disrespect but you have totally missed the whole reason to own one of these… Simplicity