@@masterofnone11 It depends on what you want to use it for I'd say. 5'11" is definitely fine (if you were 6'4" I might say otherwise). Weight-wise, I think if you are commuting on it and playing on some trails, you'll be totally fine. If you plan to load it up for mini-adventure rides that might include some secondary highways, it'll be tough. Even at 155lbs myself, I can't reliably keep this bike at 55 mph on some roads, so I imagine at 240, on climbs it would slow down into the 40's. I find myself pinned often on the throttle, even around town, so the bike more like a scooter than a dual sport for sure (which is what I was replacing when I bought it). If you DO want to do more light-weight dual sporting, then there are plenty of cheaper bikes that would do better (klx 300, crf 300, etc).
@@masterofnone11 Thanks! Weather is finally getting better here and I've been getting the Trail 125 out the past few days. I will finally be able to record some new videos here soon.
Thank you. Very informative. The Honda Trail 125 is just coming on the Canadian market in April 2023. I had a 1978 CT90, loved it. Now planning to get the new Honda Trail 125. By the way, i just turned 80 and this bike is probably going to be my last bike.
I'm 76 and been riding one for a year in SE Asia, where roads and traffic are much slower than North America. It's perfect, I had an FTR223 which had passenger capacity and tons more grunt, but too heavy to handle on muddy tracks or when I got thrown. This is a perfect commuter, with the ability to handle cross country, stream crossings and the like. It's a real head turner, too!
A thorough review. 👍👍 You had me sleepwalking towards one until the cons snapped me out of my trance. I then ran down and hugged my TU250x and promised to sin no more. 😃
As I approach my 70th birthday I've begun to wonder whether riding my Himalayan alone off-road makes a lot of sense. As much as I love it I'm not sure I could reliably pick it up anymore after a drop. Especially if it broke my ankle or leg! So I've been looking at lighter things to ride off-road and the Honda Trail 125 has caught my eye. I'm an old slow rider and am comfortable pulling to the side to let faster traffic pass me as I navigate a 55mph road to get to the dirt and gravel. Your video provided a lot of insight on whether the Honda would be the right choice to add to my garage. I still have two Vespa scooters and a Kawasaki W650 to ride on the highway but the Honda just seems ideal to jump on the forest roads two miles from my front door.
Best, honest bike review I've ever watched. I just wondered why anyone would buy one and I ended up here. Then, your description of the feeling reminded me of the most fun day I ever had on two wheels and it was renting a scooter in Saipan and going down jungle trails with it. Immediately my mind started justifying the cost of another bike in the garage. Then, the negatives came and all the 250 and 300cc dual sports started to seem like luxurious adventure bikes in contrast.
Saipan? I used to live there! Didn't ride one there but..... On a weekend in Tinian I did. Was 13 or so. Rented a moped there and went on what I consider by first ADV ride. We went to the airstrip at the north end where the Enola Gay took off and ripped up and down the runways!!
Well done! Honest & perfect review of the CT125. This bike is what it is, small, easy to ride, fun machine, with endless accessories to customise to one’s desires. Thanks 👍
Even with all the limits, it's still VERY tempting. I live in Northern Nevada and have hundreds of miles of off road trails within a few miles of my house.
Since we already have 2 CT 125’s for my wife & me, I’d like to compliment you for your thorough & truthful evaluation of the bikes. Very accurate portrayal of this machine.
I had a 90 in 1970. I never considered the shifter a toe/heel shifter. I live at the beach so I wear flip flops. I moved my foot back to shift, I didn't heel shift. I also took it deep back in the woods with boots on and the boots of the day won't allow a toe shift up very well so I moved my foot back to downshift. I liked the shifter. The bike is slow BUT I had a buddy with an older 90 and we had a great time "racing" on the main road and never breaking the speed limit. Whoever got the best launch won the drag race! The dual range transmission was incredible! If I remember first gear was 55 to 1, top speed was less than 30 but I could go ANYWHERE!! I think I would rather have an old one with a carb and no ABS. These bikes need to be very simple to truly appreciate but I would like a hand clutch conversion. Thanks for the review, it was fun to watch.
I can definitely see the usefulness of the heel shifter....for me though I have trouble with it. On several occasions I've stood up to go over rough terrain and accidentally hit the heel shifter, and then lost all momentum. It can be a bit stressful in an already stressful situation. For now, I've gotten used to it, but I will probably swap out my shifter with one of these: hdmoto.com/moto/honda-cr250-offset-forged-shift-lever
Excellent video & review. You give great real world perspective to ownership of one of these amazing little bikes. I'm really hoping we'll get the green and tan in the US within the next year or two.
Very thorough and honest. Thank you. Just bought a 2023 and am happy so far and I agree with everything you have to say. It’s exactly what I wanted though. Just a small little grocery grabber and work commuter on 45mph roads. Also plenty of gravel travel here in Iowa. Take care and be safe!
I got my first bike ever last year at 37 years old. A Trail 125. I had never rode a motorcycle and didnt know how to drive a clutch. Rode it for months and learned. Then got a 2nd bike, Versys 300, with a clutch. Love both.
Hi from Madrid, Spain, and a New Yorker expat living abroad. First if all, thank you for your honesty (good & bad)... it's a non existing commodity nowadays "anywhere" (so due to its scarcity, it's a very welcomed high value asset!). I gave personally been looking for a mobility solution for short distance mobility (On & Off Road) due to health & physical restraining issues and I love this little functional bike (I dislike the look of small modern scooters). I have been a motorcycle guy since I was 14 years old and gave had many different bikes throughout my life, but after multiple surgeries (spine, legs) I can't continue riding my big babies nor my collectible historical bikes, but I've been looking for something lightweight, attractive (yeah... this Honda Trail 125 is attractive to me) and something easy for me to get on and off of... and I think I just found it! So... thank you very much for your honest and sincere review and I also appreciate your functional approach very much! You've made a handicapped motorist very happy! Cheers from Sunny Spain! 😁👍😎✌✌🏍
I have not ridden for fifty years, but if I was ever able to ride again,this bike would be my choice. As a kid I rode a CT70, an sl-100and a CL-350 but I Iever broke back into the life I’d start here.
The Trail 125 IS capable of hitting 60mph! ... on a downhill with a tailwind... I've had one since November and I've ridden it about 800 miles in total, and taken it on a 120 mile one way trip as of right now. While I enjoyed the long ride at a slower speed, I can definitely recognize it wouldn't be a good fit for everyone. I agree completely that its a great commute/errand bike, and while I plan to take mine on more longer trips as well, I would not recommend anyone I know do the same without the caveat that you have to acknowledge you will be relegated to usually like 45-50 and most cars like to speed in general so even on back roads if there is any amount of traffic you will be getting passed a lot.
Excellent thorough and honest review. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I know how much work goes into producing a quality video like this. And I still want one of these bikes as a second bike. My main road bike is a triumph bonneville, but I would like the CT for some light trail riding and dirt backroad fun and still be able to ride into town for fuel, lunch, etc. They are still very hard to get a hold of, maybe in 2024.
Just heading out this morning to pick my brand new “red” CT 125 - super stoked to get on it after watching your video. Thanks for the honest and very thorough review, I am now even more excited to get on it and ride. I too will hang onto my AT DCT 1000 for the true ADV riding but for commuting and buggering around on our trails and Forest Service Roads up here in British Columbia this little blast of nostalgia is going to be perfect. Thanks again for the honest review of pros and cons - keep the shiny side up!
Спасибо за честный объективный обзор. У нас его вообще не продают, но я о нем мечтаю. Редкие подержанные экземпляры привозят и продают в два раза дороже чем у вас.
Excellent review. Not too long at all, and very balanced re pros and cons. Considering buying because I want forest trail and desert riding at at age 76 I'm not as comfortable riding off road, alone, as I used to be on my KLR 650, which I still ride 6 thousand miles or more every year. Trail 90 was first bike I ever rode and 53 years later the memory is still very vivid. Thanks very much for posting this vid and I subscribed.
Great conversation points on this bike. I installed a DID428VX chain. My average top speed is still the same as yours so I'm not thinking I have the notable chain drag issue . Plus sure beats constant chain adjustments. I totally agree about that super cool fuel canteen. It really would boost the retro looks.
Being 60 yrs old and "somewhat" comfortable retirement. Again "somewhat comfortable". Planning on being a Snow Bird Retiree. Summer Seasonal 6 months Maine beaches and Winters in Florida for 6 months. Anyways, I'm thinking of buying one to get around up in the Summer at Maine beaches and of course Florida in the Winter. Perfect on the back rack of an RV. In stock 2023 Honda Trail 125's up here in New England for $3,999. Time to make the move!!🤔
This is really good content. I’ve watched a lot of YT videos and I have to say, your delivery, voice, energy, editing and over all quality is outstanding. I expected to see 100k subs. Seriously I think your channel will explode.
That's very kind of you to say. I'm just going on my goofy little adventures, and hoping that I can pass off whatever snippets of wisdom I sort out along the way ;-)
This bike is great for riding 2 people BUT I wouldn't recommend doing it anywhere but off-road. The reason I mention that is because I had a 81 Express and let me tell you I almost got killed on it when I was 15. (Double riding on street traffic) so beware of that... I'm a lightweight Rider I don't need 125 lb and I regularly get 58 to 60 mph. (Mind you +/- 2mph on the speedo) on a slight downhill here in Florida I have hit 61 I believe but it was brief... (2022 red) thank you for the video it was quite wonderful as a matter of fact where you live is quite beautiful as well.😊
I’ve had my Trail 125 since April and have almost 3000 miles. I love it more and more every day. Since you have so many complaints, you could sell yours to someone who is waiting on a list who would appreciate this bike for what it is. I watched many, many videos before I walked into my Honda shop on a very lucky day. I think I was fully educated on what I was getting and am not the least bit disappointed. The Beach Boys summed it up in their song Little Honda. “🎶It’s not a big motorcycle, just a groovy little motorbike.🎶”
Great video. I'm moving to Thailand and have thought about an adv 350 or 160 and traveling the highways. Considering the cost of a Honda ADV at more than 100k baht more than a CT, I think I'd rather buy an old well taken care of Toyota pick-up with a/c for 2K USD and load the CT in the bed and take her out when I'm in town or to the trail or mountains. Otherwise just use it as a commuter and with the ease of a smaller bike in hectic slow traffic...shoot. You're right about the heel shift. I don't know how I'd like that. Especially, like you said, feathering the clutch to go over a small boulder or steep rocky trail. Great show...thanks for the knowledge!
I learnt to ride on a Honda C50. I then had a Honda C70 and C90. Over 40 years later I have a Honda Innova. These little bikes are great for messing about on. We have even done multi day, 2 up camping on the Innova. Having a kickstart is a god send. I actually ride it more than my Moto Guzzi 1100. I hope they import the CT into Europe.
Love the comprehensive honesty. I want one a ton, but maybe the xt250 for trails and vespa 150 in town are better… well, I knew that… but it’s sooo cuuuuute!
Yeah I think I waited about 3-4 if I remember correctly. The new green one is really slick and has a traditional oil filter which is better in my opinion.
Great review. I got my Trail 125 a few weeks ago and have fewer than 200 miles on it. I'm glad you mentioned the kickstarter hitting foot--that makes for awkward foot placement on the peg. Thanks for posting this review!
I bought the Trail 125 for my wife to ride with me when I ride my Yamaha TW 200. My Tdub at top speed is only 55. I think they will be the perfect match. Just as long as we both stay on the back roads.
If pulling a fuse can disable the ABS, then adding an inline switch will work, too. It's as easy as the USB charging port you already added. You've got this!
Thank you for your efforts. I just talked to my honda dealer. (Canada) 😊 I do believe I will head down monday after work and place my order (2 available)...Im excited now. Delivery in may or june. Your video and honest evaluation sealedd the deal in my mind. Cheers
I really enjoyed my time on the trail 125! It's a fantastic trail and commuter bike. I ultimately upgraded to a CRF300LS so I could play a little more aggressively on the trails...but I do miss the trail 125 a lot.
Great video! I agreed with every detail you mentioned - save one... The heel shifter is awesome. I've never used my toes to click up. It's heal shifter all the way! Maybe you have defective feet? lol! Anyway, great insights - spot on!
I’ve definitely noticed that the heel shifter is a real love-hate thing. Some absolutely love it, and others (like me), not so much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatever works I suppose
I saw a tip about wiring in the USB connector power outlet through and connected to the front headlight assemble connection. Which is only on, when the key is on. So as to not drain your battery charging something when your bike is off but the key is not. Wouldn't have to go through the neck to the battery.
Well done, thanks for the honest and informative review. Reminds me of my old XL125S trail bike, an excellent college commuter, go anywhere bush bike, and very economic.
Thank you for your information about this bike I’m going to get mine CT 125 in November I can’t wait, I love the capability the reliability and the fuel consumption of this bike.
Nice video! I am probably going to buy an alternate commuter mode of transportation soon. I have had my eyes on this bike type since they reintroduced it i am still up in the air between this and a more costly and more capable Yamaha tw-200. Thank you for your video. it has given me much to think about.
I think you can't go wrong with either. I suppose the TW200 is somewhat more of a farm bike with it's large back tire. Personally, I think the CT 125 is a great all-around commuter and trail bike....and frankly just a lot of fun. I've never ridden the TW200 though, so can't directly speak to it. I also know a friend of mine has a Yamaha XT250 which is also a really great all-around commuter/trail bike.
Used to have a Honda 90 the most that I miss besides the auxiliary gas tank is the 10 speed transmission with low range you can climb trees with it…. it used to come in yellow, which it was incredibly ugly. I was lucky to do 50 with a back wind headed downhill…lol so cruising at 50 would be deluxe…. and by the way, we carried two up on this bike all the time perfectly fine….. it was the most fun I ever had and I’ve owned Harleys and all kinds of bikes…. but it’s a hard decision between this and the Himalayan. Great video.
I used to do long trips with my Grom, wasn't always perfect but didn't find it problematic. The main thing is the stick to country roads, low speed main roads. I still think a small cc bike makes the trip a lot more fun and relax. The CT125 is perfect, but first thing I would change is the gear selector. That thing will drive me nuts, all vids people try to rotate it instead of just adding a new regular shifter. Also the second gen is out, gone is the oil spinner, in with the new long stroke and higher compression engine. It will make the bike easier to live with. I'm going to buy one as soon as I can, the new gen is already sold out. I'm going to buy a 2024. Thanks for the review, I'm sold on buying one
This is so exciting about the new 2023 model! My only two “complaints” with my model is the color and the lack of oil filter. The 2023 cones in line green (my preferred color) and with a updated engine (with oil filter). Nice!
@@On2Feet we also only get the red one in Canada. 2023 is the first year it's available so it's the new version. Can't wait to own it, I have to wait till next year cause I'm still recovering from a motorcycle crash I had last fall. Ran into a deer when it was dark at 90kmh. Good thing I had full gear but still had multiple fractures (rib cage) Thanks for sharing, stay safe
Well done and well said. I 100% agree…Honda mini motos are fun but you have to buy/use them within their capabilities. I have a Monkey to take to state parks on travel and as a backroads town bike. Buy it to use it as designed and you will be happy. By it to mod and you might be parting ways…it is what it is…a fun “little” bike!
Thanks for a frank well done evaluation. I admit to running it at 1.5 speed, but there is nothing easier than backing up for a replay. I'm paying attention to all these Trail 125 youtube videos because I'm possessed with the hope of acquiring a 2024 Honda DAX (USA). Way back...like 1970 my first new bike was a CT70 which is the grand-dad of the 125 Trail. I tried the 90cc trail and the only value it has was a dual range transmission. You hit the two redlights to DAX or Trail ownership..50 mph & availability/price gouging. Final question...would a 15T countershaft sprocket be of value....or just nonsense....considering it's got crap chain,(428?) the sprockets probably are junk too.
ha ha...no offense taken on the speed up. I tend to ramble a lot. I kept the standard gearing as I have heard swapping out the sprocket can cause the check engine light to trigger. I was ok with the factory settings.
Only new motorcycle of any note for the past decade...with the Honda Goldwing upgrade ironically enough the only great story on two wheels before this. Huge fan of the Honda NCX series as well.
A seat height of 32ins would be a plus for me having a 33ins inseam. Unfortunately Honda have chosen not to sell it in the EU. If they did I would buy one tomorrow.
Agree for the most part, however with stiff riding boots the heel shifter is a godsend. You power the USB via the light connections, which means it switches off when the ignition is off. The power cord is a one off, other than that, you don't need access to the battery. My advice is, if you remove the cover without breaking anything is you file down the tabs slightly.
I never used my heel for the heel toe shifter I just put my foot back and used my toe to shift the shifter my feet were not long enough to use it as a heel shifter but it's real Handy you don't have to worry about getting your toe underneath the shifter you just put your foot back and hit the shifter to to downshift
Yeah...I can definitely understand the utility of a heel shifter, it just doesn't work well with my stance and riding. On several occasions I've gone over a big bump or through very difficult terrain while standing and my heel came halfway down on the heel shifter, and put the bike into a semi-neutral state. Then I couldn't accelerate out and ended up dropping the bike. I'd rather just have it open in the back. I did find this shifter which I will probably use to replace the factory shifter: hdmoto.com/moto/honda-crf250l-offset-forged-shift-lever-81293
I still think it's really cool. People on the road a holes and should just slow down, and have some courtesy. I think I can live with not going to 50 up hill, and using the turnouts.
You don't buy or ride a 125cc bike for highway riding or cross country. That is a ridiculus con. And you can easily carry an extra small gas tank on the back if you wish. For tooling around on country roads or on small streets or in the neighborhood, or forest paths, this is one cool bike. The Honda Monkey is cool too.
A good and fair road test. Thanks. A couple of comments: The heel-toe gear change and centrifugal clutch operation are Honda cultural icons LOL. The top speed is disappointing for even a 125. Slower than the S65 Honda of my youth. Japanese horses have short legs or so it seems. Honda also offers 150 and 190cc farm bikes that cost less, go much faster and have proper off-road capability. So, with the CT125 you're paying over the odds for nostalgia.
Honda got it right with the old trail 90, super light and easy to handle, geared low enough to push if necessary, off road and short distances on gravel and low traffic roads, ok in city traffic, reliable, easy to maintain and inexpensive. Now they are trying to make a quick buck by using the old loved bikes' name. I was excited to see these come out until I saw the price, abs brakes and larger engine that still does not make it road worthy.
Great review.. Thanks for the con's. I'm a long time rider of many types with the last being klr650. I thinks it's time for one of these or similar. I like off road fishing type of rigs, Needed a lighter machine as I'm aging.
I put a upgraded chain on mine before it left the show room 1,500 Km and no adjustments other then the first one after getting the first service and then it was very little, well worth doing this because if you leave the crap chain on it you will be replacing chain and sprockets, so just get a good chain right from the start, and be good for a couple of years. As for availability there is one sitting on the show room flor in Summerside, been there for a while. As for the heal toe shifter that is one thing that sold me on this bike, Love it. Just learn how to use it. It is young punks like you that complain and have them not on more bikes. I wish they came on all bikes, if you do not like just change it for a toe shifter, but do not wish for them not to come with one. There is a lot of us out there who love the heal toe shifters. I walked out of a Harley show room as they took it of the Road King and wanted extra to put one back on. as along with the change of the wheels. which they clam are better. Then why do the police want the old stile on all there bikes???? USB port can be wired to the head light, where most people wire them. As for the tender yes I just had one put on when I got it, so was no problem for me and they did it for free.
I appreciate the review. My biggest problem with the bike is the top end speed. I am rather larger and want something for motorcycle camping. So with all the additional weight I am concerned about being able to maintain 45 MPH. I really need something that can do 55 MPH. I want a 5speed with a manual clutch. It should be at least a 175cc.
I have the similar thoughts . I weigh the same as the bike does and I am concerned it would be underpowered.I am also an older "beginner " that hasnt ridden a bike in 40 plus years.This looks safe to me but I dont want to be dissapointed in its power with a bigger guy on it.I would be riding the backroads of Vt. Top speed not being the issue , its the torque (its mountainous here) that I question .
Good video. Made me lump-in-the-throat nostalgic for the 90 that I learned to ride on when I was a kid. Wanted to ask-- do the handlebars unlock & turn sideways like they did on the old ones?
From everything I've seen the handlebars are now fixed (probably a legal / liability thing 🙁). Back in the 80's I had those on all of my little Trail 70's and loved that feature. I could drop the handlebars and fit it into the back of my Izuzu Tropper and haul it all over Colorado without a trailer. What fun!
They're cool little utility bikes. Cruise all day on it at like 40mph, anything past that is wringing the motor out and it's not going to last too long without needing a rebuild. It's about leisure and pleasure, not speed. If you want speed go buy a true adventure dualsport bike of 500cc or larger.
I have watched other reviews of the bike, but this is the best. I have an old 1981 Trail 110 and love it but I need to replace it. Anyway, I loved the way that you did this review. I would like to know if you have ever done a review on the ADV 150? Most guys spend more time trying to be cute than just telling us what the scooter is like. I need to know if it is good like on dirt roads and trails like you did in this video. If you have already done one, great. If not, please do one.
I haven't been on the ADV150 yet. I used to have a 125cc scooter before the Trail 125 and it was great. I would imagine the ADV is a bit quicker smoother on the roads....but obviously not any good on trails. Incidentally, they do have one in the shop here in Flagstaff now, but I don't have any interest in getting one. My sights are set on other bikes.
Battery placement 🤔 can't be worse than the CB300R. You want pain in the ass, look that up. I owned a CB300R and I had to do this fall and spring cause I don't have a heated garage. The battery on the CT ain't that bad, you won't get to it very often. The heel/toe shifter has to go, first thing I'm changing when I'm getting mine. Top Speed, not a problem, I had a Grom and I used to do long rides/travels. When more places with the Grom than the CB 😂 Just all watch CT90 Adventures and you'll be sold 😊 Thanks for the video, waiting for my 2024 right now
I have the Monkey and understand what your talking about with road use. You really have to think about how much time you spend on the road before buying. Just because the bike will do 50-60 doesn't make it good for travelling.
Well and honest information. Would you tell me where that place you filmed this video. I live in arizona, too. That area is perfect for me to do little off road with my bike. Thanks in advance
@@123edwardzpad Yeah saw that but the seat height (almost 33") and is pretty tall for a 150 and heavy (almost 300 lbs.) so that will discourage a few riders...like me. I have a lowered XT 250 that is about 30" and that is hard for me but doable. I am 5'6" with 28 " inseam.
@@bultacowally I was mistaken. It is the XR150L from Honda that is coming. It's great that there is basically a motorcycle for everybody at a certain price point and size. Between your CT 125 and your Kawasaki 250 you're pretty much set to go everywhere.
Another thing that this one doesn't have that the old one did the dual range gearbox the high and low. For the owners and writers of the old ct90 they know what I'm talking about and you would probably know too that it has the low and high range
Indeed! I definitely wish this new model had the dual-range gearing! (in addition to the fuel cannister!). With that said, I've taken this bike on some pretty ridiculously steep terrain and it's *almost* always made it up or down. A few times it didn't have enough *umph*....
@@On2Feet The missing low-range is more than a con. It's a dead non-starter. For what this bike is supposed to do, just find a used CT110 instead. This is the only time I've been disappointed by Honda. That being said, I think your review is great and lets people know what they are getting into. It's not, nor was it ever for the highway. CTs are for new riders learning, exploring, improving, and graduating. CTs are for hunting, fishing, and Search and Rescue. CTs are for irrigating fields, laying over and dragging under barbed wire fences, cattle paths through thick brush, and towing the dead pickup back home. Until they include the low range, the CT125 is just a sad facade that can't do its job.
Great video, thanks for taking the time and effort to make it. One quick question... Do you find the stock gearing adequate for the tougher places you ride. Knowing that it doesn't have the split transmission, are the stock sprockets ok? Thanks in advance!
I am currently debating on this, the supercub or the PCX. I don't really have any intention to go on trails or anything but there are aspects of it that i prefer over the supercub. For one the more rugged and utilitarian design means I don't worry so much if I drop it. Having scuffs or bent break levers sucks but compared to that of a supercub and breaking off those plastic front fairings. I had heard about the Battery issue but that was on the supercub so was unaware that it was present here as well. That is nice to know in more detail though so if I get these bikes I will be sure to get help when I want to install something electrical. Very informative. You don't get a lot of reviews that are this detailed because most reviewers only have a few days with a bike if that. Probably will end up getting the supercub but it is more a matter of "what is around when I have the money" and diversifying my options in case I can't get one.
might make this my first bike. Deciding between this, the grom and the navi. All are available in my area and I am saving up till March and then will make my purchase. Not sure which I want to go with. Mainly just a commuter to work.
My honest though there is that if you think you are going to do ANY trails, dirt roads, forest roads etc...then the Trail 125 is the best option. The grom probably goes a smidge faster and has a true clutch, but I absolutely love that I got this bike. My primary use for it is also commuting....but I have a ton of fun on it off road too. If you want an idea of what this is capable of....watch this: ruclips.net/video/xGat7bbl4VY/видео.html
@@domenik8339 I am in the sevierville TN area. Sadly the two trails that were here at the honda shop were gone two days after I made this post lol. Now the closest one is 300miles away :(.
mate i wish they sold the trail 125 in the uk. its exactly what im looking for because im 17 and can finally ride something bigger than a 50cc. Looking at a honda innova 125 from 2003 because there is no way i can afford the new super cub 125. hoping to do a few changes to the bike if i end up getting it like putting some nice trail tyres on it. the trail is an awesome bike.
Hey thanks so much Bill. Now that the weather is finally getting nice, I will start posting new 125 content again here soon. I've got some fun plans this spring.
I agree with your pros but I think most of your cons are fairly petty...except...the speed limitation. That is the deal breaker for me. If it could hold 55 without feeling maxed out and ready to blow apart, I'd be sold. Let's face it. There is often a good stretch of asphalt before the gravel fun begins.
Thats fair....it is hard to find substantial "cons" with this bike. I absolutely love it. I've spent a few more months on it now and not only have I adjusted the chain again, but also have been noticing the suspension bottoms out quite a bit. So I do think both of those "cons" are a bit more noteworthy. As you say, the top speed is absolutely a deal-breaker for many. For me, I'm ok with as my typical use is around-town or off-road. I have taken it up on a few highways and screamed along with the throttle fully open. I did slow traffic down and had to move to the shoulder several times, so it's not ideal. But...for short stints, it's fine. I think even if the bike were a 200cc (or even 150) it would probably be at the sweet spot. With all this said, I will absolutely be keeping this as a "forever" bike. It's just so damn fun.
I do think one other con I failed to mention in this video is the lack of high/low gearing like in the older models.
@@masterofnone11 It depends on what you want to use it for I'd say. 5'11" is definitely fine (if you were 6'4" I might say otherwise). Weight-wise, I think if you are commuting on it and playing on some trails, you'll be totally fine. If you plan to load it up for mini-adventure rides that might include some secondary highways, it'll be tough. Even at 155lbs myself, I can't reliably keep this bike at 55 mph on some roads, so I imagine at 240, on climbs it would slow down into the 40's. I find myself pinned often on the throttle, even around town, so the bike more like a scooter than a dual sport for sure (which is what I was replacing when I bought it). If you DO want to do more light-weight dual sporting, then there are plenty of cheaper bikes that would do better (klx 300, crf 300, etc).
@@On2Feet thanks for the info ! I love your vids !!!
@@masterofnone11 Thanks! Weather is finally getting better here and I've been getting the Trail 125 out the past few days. I will finally be able to record some new videos here soon.
Maybe Honda will upgrade future models with a high and low......
Thank you. Very informative. The Honda Trail 125 is just coming on the Canadian market in April 2023. I had a 1978 CT90, loved it. Now planning to get the new Honda Trail 125. By the way, i just turned 80 and this bike is probably going to be my last bike.
It is about to be my last bike as well. Happy Trails....
I'm 76 and been riding one for a year in SE Asia, where roads and traffic are much slower than North America. It's perfect, I had an FTR223 which had passenger capacity and tons more grunt, but too heavy to handle on muddy tracks or when I got thrown. This is a perfect commuter, with the ability to handle cross country, stream crossings and the like. It's a real head turner, too!
I am 79, and will have one these delivered next year. Keep on trucking!
Awesome 👍👍
A thorough review. 👍👍 You had me sleepwalking towards one until the cons snapped me out of my trance. I then ran down and hugged my TU250x and promised to sin no more. 😃
Hi mate great video I brought my ct 125 last year for work I have just turned over 30,000 kms in 1 year I have a mail delivery business awesome bike
Nice 👍
As I approach my 70th birthday I've begun to wonder whether riding my Himalayan alone off-road makes a lot of sense. As much as I love it I'm not sure I could reliably pick it up anymore after a drop. Especially if it broke my ankle or leg! So I've been looking at lighter things to ride off-road and the Honda Trail 125 has caught my eye. I'm an old slow rider and am comfortable pulling to the side to let faster traffic pass me as I navigate a 55mph road to get to the dirt and gravel. Your video provided a lot of insight on whether the Honda would be the right choice to add to my garage. I still have two Vespa scooters and a Kawasaki W650 to ride on the highway but the Honda just seems ideal to jump on the forest roads two miles from my front door.
Best, honest bike review I've ever watched. I just wondered why anyone would buy one and I ended up here. Then, your description of the feeling reminded me of the most fun day I ever had on two wheels and it was renting a scooter in Saipan and going down jungle trails with it. Immediately my mind started justifying the cost of another bike in the garage. Then, the negatives came and all the 250 and 300cc dual sports started to seem like luxurious adventure bikes in contrast.
Saipan? I used to live there! Didn't ride one there but.....
On a weekend in Tinian I did. Was 13 or so. Rented a moped there and went on what I consider by first ADV ride. We went to the airstrip at the north end where the Enola Gay took off and ripped up and down the runways!!
Well done! Honest & perfect review of the CT125. This bike is what it is, small, easy to ride, fun machine, with endless accessories to customise to one’s desires. Thanks 👍
Even with all the limits, it's still VERY tempting. I live in Northern Nevada and have hundreds of miles of off road trails within a few miles of my house.
Since we already have 2 CT 125’s for my wife & me, I’d like to compliment you for your thorough & truthful evaluation of the bikes. Very accurate portrayal of this machine.
I had a 90 in 1970. I never considered the shifter a toe/heel shifter. I live at the beach so I wear flip flops. I moved my foot back to shift, I didn't heel shift. I also took it deep back in the woods with boots on and the boots of the day won't allow a toe shift up very well so I moved my foot back to downshift. I liked the shifter. The bike is slow BUT I had a buddy with an older 90 and we had a great time "racing" on the main road and never breaking the speed limit. Whoever got the best launch won the drag race! The dual range transmission was incredible! If I remember first gear was 55 to 1, top speed was less than 30 but I could go ANYWHERE!! I think I would rather have an old one with a carb and no ABS. These bikes need to be very simple to truly appreciate but I would like a hand clutch conversion. Thanks for the review, it was fun to watch.
I can definitely see the usefulness of the heel shifter....for me though I have trouble with it. On several occasions I've stood up to go over rough terrain and accidentally hit the heel shifter, and then lost all momentum. It can be a bit stressful in an already stressful situation. For now, I've gotten used to it, but I will probably swap out my shifter with one of these: hdmoto.com/moto/honda-cr250-offset-forged-shift-lever
Excellent video & review. You give great real world perspective to ownership of one of these amazing little bikes. I'm really hoping we'll get the green and tan in the US within the next year or two.
Very thorough and honest. Thank you. Just bought a 2023 and am happy so far and I agree with everything you have to say. It’s exactly what I wanted though. Just a small little grocery grabber and work commuter on 45mph roads. Also plenty of gravel travel here in Iowa.
Take care and be safe!
I got my first bike ever last year at 37 years old. A Trail 125. I had never rode a motorcycle and didnt know how to drive a clutch. Rode it for months and learned. Then got a 2nd bike, Versys 300, with a clutch. Love both.
Hi from Madrid, Spain, and a New Yorker expat living abroad.
First if all, thank you for your honesty (good & bad)... it's a non existing commodity nowadays "anywhere" (so due to its scarcity, it's a very welcomed high value asset!).
I gave personally been looking for a mobility solution for short distance mobility (On & Off Road) due to health & physical restraining issues and I love this little functional bike (I dislike the look of small modern scooters).
I have been a motorcycle guy since I was 14 years old and gave had many different bikes throughout my life, but after multiple surgeries (spine, legs) I can't continue riding my big babies nor my collectible historical bikes, but I've been looking for something lightweight, attractive (yeah... this Honda Trail 125 is attractive to me) and something easy for me to get on and off of... and I think I just found it!
So... thank you very much for your honest and sincere review and I also appreciate your functional approach very much!
You've made a handicapped motorist very happy!
Cheers from Sunny Spain!
😁👍😎✌✌🏍
I have not ridden for fifty years, but if I was ever able to ride again,this bike would be my choice. As a kid I rode a CT70, an sl-100and a CL-350 but I Iever broke back into the life I’d start here.
Fantastic bike. My first summer with it. What an incredible experience it has been.
It's a beautiful and capable bike -- for a 125cc. For highway miles, I wouldn't ride less than a 650, properly equipped.
The Trail 125 IS capable of hitting 60mph! ... on a downhill with a tailwind... I've had one since November and I've ridden it about 800 miles in total, and taken it on a 120 mile one way trip as of right now. While I enjoyed the long ride at a slower speed, I can definitely recognize it wouldn't be a good fit for everyone. I agree completely that its a great commute/errand bike, and while I plan to take mine on more longer trips as well, I would not recommend anyone I know do the same without the caveat that you have to acknowledge you will be relegated to usually like 45-50 and most cars like to speed in general so even on back roads if there is any amount of traffic you will be getting passed a lot.
Excellent thorough and honest review. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I know how much work goes into producing a quality video like this. And I still want one of these bikes as a second bike. My main road bike is a triumph bonneville, but I would like the CT for some light trail riding and dirt backroad fun and still be able to ride into town for fuel, lunch, etc. They are still very hard to get a hold of, maybe in 2024.
I bought the drab green. I love it and agree with your perspective on the bike
Just heading out this morning to pick my brand new “red” CT 125 - super stoked to get on it after watching your video. Thanks for the honest and very thorough review, I am now even more excited to get on it and ride. I too will hang onto my AT DCT 1000 for the true ADV riding but for commuting and buggering around on our trails and Forest Service Roads up here in British Columbia this little blast of nostalgia is going to be perfect. Thanks again for the honest review of pros and cons - keep the shiny side up!
Enjoy your new 125! It is a great little machine
Спасибо за честный объективный обзор. У нас его вообще не продают, но я о нем мечтаю. Редкие подержанные экземпляры привозят и продают в два раза дороже чем у вас.
Not sure how good google translate is for your message but it sounds like they don't sell the CT125 where you live. Definitely a bummer.
Excellent review. Not too long at all, and very balanced re pros and cons. Considering buying because I want forest trail and desert riding at at age 76 I'm not as comfortable riding off road, alone, as I used to be on my KLR 650, which I still ride 6 thousand miles or more every year. Trail 90 was first bike I ever rode and 53 years later the memory is still very vivid.
Thanks very much for posting this vid and I subscribed.
Are you my brother?
@bndbassett highly doubtful
@@ronaldbassett5142 I believe you're right. Don't see our name out there very much.
It has 9.7hp but they have big bore kits that go as high as 186cc increase to 30+hp total
Great conversation points on this bike. I installed a DID428VX chain. My average top speed is still the same as yours so I'm not thinking I have the notable chain drag issue . Plus sure beats constant chain adjustments. I totally agree about that super cool fuel canteen. It really would boost the retro looks.
Thanks for the chain size info
@@edking3427 No problem 👍
Being 60 yrs old and "somewhat" comfortable retirement. Again "somewhat comfortable". Planning on being a Snow Bird Retiree. Summer Seasonal 6 months Maine beaches and Winters in Florida for 6 months. Anyways, I'm thinking of buying one to get around up in the Summer at Maine beaches and of course Florida in the Winter. Perfect on the back rack of an RV. In stock 2023 Honda Trail 125's up here in New England for $3,999. Time to make the move!!🤔
This is really good content. I’ve watched a lot of YT videos and I have to say, your delivery, voice, energy, editing and over all quality is outstanding. I expected to see 100k subs. Seriously I think your channel will explode.
That's very kind of you to say. I'm just going on my goofy little adventures, and hoping that I can pass off whatever snippets of wisdom I sort out along the way ;-)
This bike is great for riding 2 people BUT I wouldn't recommend doing it anywhere but off-road. The reason I mention that is because I had a 81 Express and let me tell you I almost got killed on it when I was 15. (Double riding on street traffic) so beware of that... I'm a lightweight Rider I don't need 125 lb and I regularly get 58 to 60 mph. (Mind you +/- 2mph on the speedo) on a slight downhill here in Florida I have hit 61 I believe but it was brief... (2022 red) thank you for the video it was quite wonderful as a matter of fact where you live is quite beautiful as well.😊
I’ve had my Trail 125 since April and have almost 3000 miles. I love it more and more every day. Since you have so many complaints, you could sell yours to someone who is waiting on a list who would appreciate this bike for what it is.
I watched many, many videos before I walked into my Honda shop on a very lucky day. I think I was fully educated on what I was getting and am not the least bit disappointed.
The Beach Boys summed it up in their song Little Honda.
“🎶It’s not a big motorcycle, just a groovy little motorbike.🎶”
Great video. I'm moving to Thailand and have thought about an adv 350 or 160 and traveling the highways. Considering the cost of a Honda ADV at more than 100k baht more than a CT, I think I'd rather buy an old well taken care of Toyota pick-up with a/c for 2K USD and load the CT in the bed and take her out when I'm in town or to the trail or mountains. Otherwise just use it as a commuter and with the ease of a smaller bike in hectic slow traffic...shoot.
You're right about the heel shift. I don't know how I'd like that. Especially, like you said, feathering the clutch to go over a small boulder or steep rocky trail.
Great show...thanks for the knowledge!
I have been searching test videos about this bike and you have produced the best one by far! Excellent work. Thank you!!!
I learnt to ride on a Honda C50. I then had a Honda C70 and C90. Over 40 years later I have a Honda Innova. These little bikes are great for messing about on. We have even done multi day, 2 up camping on the Innova. Having a kickstart is a god send. I actually ride it more than my Moto Guzzi 1100. I hope they import the CT into Europe.
Love the comprehensive honesty. I want one a ton, but maybe the xt250 for trails and vespa 150 in town are better… well, I knew that… but it’s sooo cuuuuute!
I waited 5 months to get my green 2023 bike. I bought a rack, so only plan on using offroad. Thanks for the review!
Yeah I think I waited about 3-4 if I remember correctly. The new green one is really slick and has a traditional oil filter which is better in my opinion.
Great review. I got my Trail 125 a few weeks ago and have fewer than 200 miles on it. I'm glad you mentioned the kickstarter hitting foot--that makes for awkward foot placement on the peg. Thanks for posting this review!
OMG. The best review video on the whole fricking internet. Thanks a lot, and greetings from Germany (where we unfortunately cannot buy one...). 🙂
Thank you so much for such an excellent video.😊
I bought the Trail 125 for my wife to ride with me when I ride my Yamaha TW 200. My Tdub at top speed is only 55. I think they will be the perfect match. Just as long as we both stay on the back roads.
If pulling a fuse can disable the ABS, then adding an inline switch will work, too. It's as easy as the USB charging port you already added. You've got this!
Thank you for your efforts. I just talked to my honda dealer. (Canada) 😊 I do believe I will head down monday after work and place my order (2 available)...Im excited now. Delivery in may or june. Your video and honest evaluation sealedd the deal in my mind. Cheers
Heel shifters have been on them forever. If you ride in flip flops or stiff boots it’s very nice to have.
I grew up riding a trail 110. I wish I still had it, it was a beast! I absolutely have to own a 125
I really enjoyed my time on the trail 125! It's a fantastic trail and commuter bike. I ultimately upgraded to a CRF300LS so I could play a little more aggressively on the trails...but I do miss the trail 125 a lot.
Well I agree, you do have a talent, your sincerity is refreshing. I learned a lot.
Great video! I agreed with every detail you mentioned - save one... The heel shifter is awesome. I've never used my toes to click up. It's heal shifter all the way! Maybe you have defective feet? lol! Anyway, great insights - spot on!
I’ve definitely noticed that the heel shifter is a real love-hate thing. Some absolutely love it, and others (like me), not so much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatever works I suppose
I saw a tip about wiring in the USB connector power outlet through and connected to the front headlight assemble connection. Which is only on, when the key is on. So as to not drain your battery charging something when your bike is off but the key is not. Wouldn't have to go through the neck to the battery.
Thanks for all the content
Well done, thanks for the honest and informative review. Reminds me of my old XL125S trail bike, an excellent college commuter, go anywhere bush bike, and very economic.
A lot of people talk crap about the suspension on a bike but they weigh 320lbs!😂
Thank you for your information about this bike I’m going to get mine CT 125 in November I can’t wait, I love the capability the reliability and the fuel consumption of this bike.
Your video is very well done .I'm going too buy one and get out of the house. I've had the 90 and 110 so I know what they are
Most honest review video for the Trail 125 on the internet ! Thank you
Thanks so much man... I do sincerely appreciate it. I know it's a bit rambling, but I wanted to be comprehensive.
Nice video! I am probably going to buy an alternate commuter mode of transportation soon. I have had my eyes on this bike type since they reintroduced it i am still up in the air between this and a more costly and more capable Yamaha tw-200. Thank you for your video. it has given me much to think about.
I think you can't go wrong with either. I suppose the TW200 is somewhat more of a farm bike with it's large back tire. Personally, I think the CT 125 is a great all-around commuter and trail bike....and frankly just a lot of fun. I've never ridden the TW200 though, so can't directly speak to it. I also know a friend of mine has a Yamaha XT250 which is also a really great all-around commuter/trail bike.
I had a TW and it wasn't much faster on a highway but it sure was a cool little bike.
Great review! Great pros and cons, 100% agree with all of them.
This reminds me of my 1979 Honda PA50II moped. I regret selling that thing and I'm seriously considering picking up a Trail 125 when given the chance
Thanks for your honesty. I’m going back and forth between a super Cub, trail or Vespa. Keep the vids coming.
Used to have a Honda 90 the most that I miss besides the auxiliary gas tank is the 10 speed transmission with low range you can climb trees with it…. it used to come in yellow, which it was incredibly ugly. I was lucky to do 50 with a back wind headed downhill…lol so cruising at 50 would be deluxe…. and by the way, we carried two up on this bike all the time perfectly fine….. it was the most fun I ever had and I’ve owned Harleys and all kinds of bikes…. but it’s a hard decision between this and the Himalayan. Great video.
I used to do long trips with my Grom, wasn't always perfect but didn't find it problematic. The main thing is the stick to country roads, low speed main roads.
I still think a small cc bike makes the trip a lot more fun and relax.
The CT125 is perfect, but first thing I would change is the gear selector. That thing will drive me nuts, all vids people try to rotate it instead of just adding a new regular shifter.
Also the second gen is out, gone is the oil spinner, in with the new long stroke and higher compression engine. It will make the bike easier to live with.
I'm going to buy one as soon as I can, the new gen is already sold out. I'm going to buy a 2024.
Thanks for the review, I'm sold on buying one
This is so exciting about the new 2023 model! My only two “complaints” with my model is the color and the lack of oil filter. The 2023 cones in line green (my preferred color) and with a updated engine (with oil filter). Nice!
@@On2Feet we also only get the red one in Canada. 2023 is the first year it's available so it's the new version. Can't wait to own it, I have to wait till next year cause I'm still recovering from a motorcycle crash I had last fall. Ran into a deer when it was dark at 90kmh. Good thing I had full gear but still had multiple fractures (rib cage)
Thanks for sharing, stay safe
Well done and well said. I 100% agree…Honda mini motos are fun but you have to buy/use them within their capabilities.
I have a Monkey to take to state parks on travel and as a backroads town bike.
Buy it to use it as designed and you will be happy. By it to mod and you might be parting ways…it is what it is…a fun “little” bike!
Indeed. It's been a really fun little bike. We FINALLY have good weather here in town, so I'm pumped to start getting it out again!
Thanks for a frank well done evaluation. I admit to running it at 1.5 speed, but there is nothing easier than backing up for a replay. I'm paying attention to all these Trail 125 youtube videos because I'm possessed with the hope of acquiring a 2024 Honda DAX (USA). Way back...like 1970 my first new bike was a CT70 which is the grand-dad of the 125 Trail. I tried the 90cc trail and the only value it has was a dual range transmission. You hit the two redlights to DAX or Trail ownership..50 mph & availability/price gouging. Final question...would a 15T countershaft sprocket be of value....or just nonsense....considering it's got crap chain,(428?) the sprockets probably are junk too.
ha ha...no offense taken on the speed up. I tend to ramble a lot. I kept the standard gearing as I have heard swapping out the sprocket can cause the check engine light to trigger. I was ok with the factory settings.
Best review I seen yet on that Honda model!!! I think um gonna try to find one!!!
Only new motorcycle of any note for the past decade...with the Honda Goldwing upgrade ironically enough the only great story on two wheels before this. Huge fan of the Honda NCX series as well.
A seat height of 32ins would be a plus for me having a 33ins inseam. Unfortunately Honda have chosen not to sell it in the EU. If they did I would buy one tomorrow.
Been waiting for the Super Cub to Canada but looks like no time soon, guess I should just order one of these. Not the best looking but it’s a Honda.
Agree for the most part, however with stiff riding boots the heel shifter is a godsend. You power the USB via the light connections, which means it switches off when the ignition is off. The power cord is a one off, other than that, you don't need access to the battery. My advice is, if you remove the cover without breaking anything is you file down the tabs slightly.
I never used my heel for the heel toe shifter I just put my foot back and used my toe to shift the shifter my feet were not long enough to use it as a heel shifter but it's real Handy you don't have to worry about getting your toe underneath the shifter you just put your foot back and hit the shifter to to downshift
Yeah...I can definitely understand the utility of a heel shifter, it just doesn't work well with my stance and riding. On several occasions I've gone over a big bump or through very difficult terrain while standing and my heel came halfway down on the heel shifter, and put the bike into a semi-neutral state. Then I couldn't accelerate out and ended up dropping the bike. I'd rather just have it open in the back. I did find this shifter which I will probably use to replace the factory shifter: hdmoto.com/moto/honda-crf250l-offset-forged-shift-lever-81293
The most thorough review yet! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the detailed review. I did not know about the handle bar ends.
I still think it's really cool. People on the road a holes and should just slow down, and have some courtesy. I think I can live with not going to 50 up hill, and using the turnouts.
You don't buy or ride a 125cc bike for highway riding or cross country. That is a ridiculus con. And you can easily carry an extra small gas tank on the back if you wish. For tooling around on country roads or on small streets or in the neighborhood, or forest paths, this is one cool bike. The Honda Monkey is cool too.
love bikes that sip fuel.especially with the recent sky high fuel price.
A good and fair road test. Thanks. A couple of comments:
The heel-toe gear change and centrifugal clutch operation are Honda cultural icons LOL.
The top speed is disappointing for even a 125. Slower than the S65 Honda of my youth. Japanese horses have short legs or so it seems. Honda also offers 150 and 190cc farm bikes that cost less, go much faster and have proper off-road capability. So, with the CT125 you're paying over the odds for nostalgia.
Thank you so much!
Honda got it right with the old trail 90, super light and easy to handle, geared low enough to push if necessary, off road and short distances on gravel and low traffic roads, ok in city traffic, reliable, easy to maintain and inexpensive. Now they are trying to make a quick buck by using the old loved bikes' name. I was excited to see these come out until I saw the price, abs brakes and larger engine that still does not make it road worthy.
Great review.. Thanks for the con's. I'm a long time rider of many types with the last being klr650. I thinks it's time for one of these or similar. I like off road fishing type of rigs, Needed a lighter machine as I'm aging.
I put a upgraded chain on mine before it left the show room 1,500 Km and no adjustments other then the first one after getting the first service and then it was very little, well worth doing this because if you leave the crap chain on it you will be replacing chain and sprockets, so just get a good chain right from the start, and be good for a couple of years. As for availability there is one sitting on the show room flor in Summerside, been there for a while. As for the heal toe shifter that is one thing that sold me on this bike, Love it. Just learn how to use it. It is young punks like you that complain and have them not on more bikes. I wish they came on all bikes, if you do not like just change it for a toe shifter, but do not wish for them not to come with one. There is a lot of us out there who love the heal toe shifters. I walked out of a Harley show room as they took it of the Road King and wanted extra to put one back on. as along with the change of the wheels. which they clam are better. Then why do the police want the old stile on all there bikes???? USB port can be wired to the head light, where most people wire them. As for the tender yes I just had one put on when I got it, so was no problem for me and they did it for free.
Awesome review. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think I might just order one of these fun looking bikes!
I appreciate the review. My biggest problem with the bike is the top end speed. I am rather larger and want something for motorcycle camping. So with all the additional weight I am concerned about being able to maintain 45 MPH. I really need something that can do 55 MPH. I want a 5speed with a manual clutch. It should be at least a 175cc.
Try the Yamaha TW200. 55 is near the top end but it will do it fine according to people who own it.
I have the similar thoughts . I weigh the same as the bike does and I am concerned it would be underpowered.I am also an older "beginner " that hasnt ridden a bike in 40 plus years.This looks safe to me but I dont want to be dissapointed in its power with a bigger guy on it.I would be riding the backroads of Vt. Top speed not being the issue , its the torque (its mountainous here) that I question .
@@thelorax7704 A+
Thank you for the extract piont of usage on this bike. It a cut little bike. True to earth details thank you for the run throw.
Good video. Made me lump-in-the-throat nostalgic for the 90 that I learned to ride on when I was a kid. Wanted to ask-- do the handlebars unlock & turn sideways like they did on the old ones?
From everything I've seen the handlebars are now fixed (probably a legal / liability thing 🙁). Back in the 80's I had those on all of my little Trail 70's and loved that feature. I could drop the handlebars and fit it into the back of my Izuzu Tropper and haul it all over Colorado without a trailer. What fun!
They're cool little utility bikes. Cruise all day on it at like 40mph, anything past that is wringing the motor out and it's not going to last too long without needing a rebuild. It's about leisure and pleasure, not speed. If you want speed go buy a true adventure dualsport bike of 500cc or larger.
I have watched other reviews of the bike, but this is the best. I have an old 1981 Trail 110 and love it but I need to replace it. Anyway, I loved the way that you did this review. I would like to know if you have ever done a review on the ADV 150? Most guys spend more time trying to be cute than just telling us what the scooter is like. I need to know if it is good like on dirt roads and trails like you did in this video. If you have already done one, great. If not, please do one.
I haven't been on the ADV150 yet. I used to have a 125cc scooter before the Trail 125 and it was great. I would imagine the ADV is a bit quicker smoother on the roads....but obviously not any good on trails. Incidentally, they do have one in the shop here in Flagstaff now, but I don't have any interest in getting one. My sights are set on other bikes.
Battery placement 🤔 can't be worse than the CB300R. You want pain in the ass, look that up. I owned a CB300R and I had to do this fall and spring cause I don't have a heated garage.
The battery on the CT ain't that bad, you won't get to it very often.
The heel/toe shifter has to go, first thing I'm changing when I'm getting mine.
Top Speed, not a problem, I had a Grom and I used to do long rides/travels. When more places with the Grom than the CB 😂
Just all watch CT90 Adventures and you'll be sold 😊
Thanks for the video, waiting for my 2024 right now
I don't know why but I love so mucho this Beauty!
I have the Monkey and understand what your talking about with road use. You really have to think about how much time you spend on the road before buying. Just because the bike will do 50-60 doesn't make it good for travelling.
Excellent review I really enjoyed watching the whole video. I absolutely would love this bike if it had five more horsepower….
Thank you , what a great , honest review! 👍✌️🧡
Well and honest information. Would you tell me where that place you filmed this video. I live in arizona, too. That area is perfect for me to do little off road with my bike. Thanks in advance
This is all up on fire roads near flagstaff on the south side of lake Mary road.
After the cons the tw200 still is higher on my buy list , good review, thanks
Crf150L is coming to USA.
@@123edwardzpad Yeah saw that but the seat height (almost 33") and is pretty tall for a 150 and heavy (almost 300 lbs.) so that will discourage a few riders...like me. I have a lowered XT 250 that is about 30" and that is hard for me but doable. I am 5'6" with 28 " inseam.
@@bultacowally I was mistaken. It is the XR150L from Honda that is coming. It's great that there is basically a motorcycle for everybody at a certain price point and size. Between your CT 125 and your Kawasaki 250 you're pretty much set to go everywhere.
Thanks for the awesome review on this bike. Does anyone know if the 2023 has the 5 speed like the monkey. Cheers
I still wish there was one with the rebel 300 6 speed so we can get it over 80mph wide open
Thank you so much. Awesome review
Another thing that this one doesn't have that the old one did the dual range gearbox the high and low. For the owners and writers of the old ct90 they know what I'm talking about and you would probably know too that it has the low and high range
Indeed! I definitely wish this new model had the dual-range gearing! (in addition to the fuel cannister!). With that said, I've taken this bike on some pretty ridiculously steep terrain and it's *almost* always made it up or down. A few times it didn't have enough *umph*....
@@On2Feet The missing low-range is more than a con. It's a dead non-starter. For what this bike is supposed to do, just find a used CT110 instead. This is the only time I've been disappointed by Honda. That being said, I think your review is great and lets people know what they are getting into. It's not, nor was it ever for the highway. CTs are for new riders learning, exploring, improving, and graduating. CTs are for hunting, fishing, and Search and Rescue. CTs are for irrigating fields, laying over and dragging under barbed wire fences, cattle paths through thick brush, and towing the dead pickup back home. Until they include the low range, the CT125 is just a sad facade that can't do its job.
Spot on info thanks great job.
Great video, thanks for taking the time and effort to make it. One quick question... Do you find the stock gearing adequate for the tougher places you ride. Knowing that it doesn't have the split transmission, are the stock sprockets ok? Thanks in advance!
I am currently debating on this, the supercub or the PCX. I don't really have any intention to go on trails or anything but there are aspects of it that i prefer over the supercub. For one the more rugged and utilitarian design means I don't worry so much if I drop it. Having scuffs or bent break levers sucks but compared to that of a supercub and breaking off those plastic front fairings. I had heard about the Battery issue but that was on the supercub so was unaware that it was present here as well. That is nice to know in more detail though so if I get these bikes I will be sure to get help when I want to install something electrical.
Very informative. You don't get a lot of reviews that are this detailed because most reviewers only have a few days with a bike if that. Probably will end up getting the supercub but it is more a matter of "what is around when I have the money" and diversifying my options in case I can't get one.
get the honda Adv 150. It's the best of all worlds
Great review, thanks. Such a pity Honda won’t let us have it in the uk!
might make this my first bike. Deciding between this, the grom and the navi. All are available in my area and I am saving up till March and then will make my purchase. Not sure which I want to go with. Mainly just a commuter to work.
My honest though there is that if you think you are going to do ANY trails, dirt roads, forest roads etc...then the Trail 125 is the best option. The grom probably goes a smidge faster and has a true clutch, but I absolutely love that I got this bike. My primary use for it is also commuting....but I have a ton of fun on it off road too. If you want an idea of what this is capable of....watch this: ruclips.net/video/xGat7bbl4VY/видео.html
Do you mind if I ask what area you're in? These are unobtainable in my area.
@@domenik8339 I am in the sevierville TN area. Sadly the two trails that were here at the honda shop were gone two days after I made this post lol. Now the closest one is 300miles away :(.
mate i wish they sold the trail 125 in the uk. its exactly what im looking for because im 17 and can finally ride something bigger than a 50cc. Looking at a honda innova 125 from 2003 because there is no way i can afford the new super cub 125. hoping to do a few changes to the bike if i end up getting it like putting some nice trail tyres on it. the trail is an awesome bike.
Wonderful video! Very honest
New Subscriber here...Most informative and Honest review I think I've seen ...TY !!!!
Hey thanks so much Bill. Now that the weather is finally getting nice, I will start posting new 125 content again here soon. I've got some fun plans this spring.
wow thanks for the details... it help me alot... i apreciate that...
So glad to hear. It's been a great little bike.
I agree with your pros but I think most of your cons are fairly petty...except...the speed limitation. That is the deal breaker for me.
If it could hold 55 without feeling maxed out and ready to blow apart, I'd be sold.
Let's face it. There is often a good stretch of asphalt before the gravel fun begins.
Thats fair....it is hard to find substantial "cons" with this bike. I absolutely love it. I've spent a few more months on it now and not only have I adjusted the chain again, but also have been noticing the suspension bottoms out quite a bit. So I do think both of those "cons" are a bit more noteworthy. As you say, the top speed is absolutely a deal-breaker for many. For me, I'm ok with as my typical use is around-town or off-road. I have taken it up on a few highways and screamed along with the throttle fully open. I did slow traffic down and had to move to the shoulder several times, so it's not ideal. But...for short stints, it's fine. I think even if the bike were a 200cc (or even 150) it would probably be at the sweet spot. With all this said, I will absolutely be keeping this as a "forever" bike. It's just so damn fun.