Another benefit of the module option is that you'll no longer have to service the flap valve. I've found that I need to clean and lubricate mine at least twice a year or else it seizes. I'm considering locking it fully open and fooling the ECU with the aftermarket module. Seems the best plan to me. Thanks for the video 👍
Hi good afternoon, welcome to the channel and thank you for your input. This why I removed the butterfly completely, ecu still things it’s present and the vertical spindle no long seizes. Have a great Sunday Carl
The next thing you should do to improve low speed (and generally everywhere) running is balance the throttle bodies. This is not covered by Ducati servicing. As you know the Multistrada is ride by wire and the horizontal cylinder's intake is controlled by a stepper motor and the vertical cylinder is slaved to this by a mechanical linkage. Using vacuum gauges teed into the pressure sensors for each cylinder to take the readings and adjust the settings with the spring loaded screw under the left hand side back of the tank. Unfortunately you have to switch the engine off each time you adjust it so that you can get a screwdriver on it. Mine was quite a bit out and has made the bike much better at lower RPM's.
I've done both the +2R gearing change (at the 600 miles first service) and the Ducc-EE servo eliminator on my 2018 1260 MTS Pikes Peak. Great mods especially the gearing. Now looking at an ECU flash to improve throttle response and remove some of the built-in restrictions.
@@justthewayitis Thank you. Your videos are nice btw which I should have mentioned at the start. I only have one youtube short video and coincidentally, it's about the exhaust valve.
@@justthewayitis Your two mods in this video were my first as well. Others include short levers for two finger action, throttle spacer to remove the slop, removing the 2 lb rear mud guard to reduce unsprung weight and a GPS mounting bracket. a removable backrest for Mrs D and lastly and recently, I bought a comfort seat.
Hi Dar, thank you for your feedback and I’m pleased you have enjoyed the series , sounds like some nice upgrades you have done. I’ll watch your YT sort later this weekend 👍🙋🏻♂️
Hey, thanks very much for you excellent videos. Sorry if this is answered already but I'm not clear on the physical removal of the valve and the use of the electrical module. The module is an option to achieve the same results if you don't want to physically remove the valve, or do you need to do both? Thanks again. 2012 1200S
Hi Todd, the electronic module in effect deactivates the exhaust valve, this means you do not need to physically remove it. 🙋🏻♂️ Good luck with your project Kind regards Carl
I want to remove the valve completely on my 1299S. You mentioned grinding off the welds to get the restrictor plate off. After youve done this you will be left with just the metal rod. Is it possible to slide this out or do yo have to physically cut it from the inside as well? Once you do remove it how do you deal with the resulting holes? I assume welding them shut.
Hi Oscar, once the circular disc is removed, you’re done ! There is negligible benefit from removing the vertical post, just leave it where it is. Regards Carl
My cat box is sinfully ugly and could use a polishing or a ceramic coating of some sort. Would you have a video highlighting the steps required to remove the cat box?
Hi there 👋 quick question what if instead of removing the valve I just tie it with a wire so the valve doesn’t close. Will it be the same results and will I need the Vizi Tec for that?
Hi, you haven’t given any clear details about which make, model or year so I can’t answer your question. But in general you could simply try this and see what happens, also check on your local forums and I’m sure many have done this. Carl
Hi Carl. Last year I bought a multistrada 1200 S 2015. I just suffering with stall issues in idle or when I’m slowing down to a traffic light or a stop. Apparently it is a very common issue but I haven’t found a solution yet. Can you give me an advice or do you know something about this issue. Thanks in advance.
Hi Ricardo, it’s quite often an air leak, vacuum hoses on or around the throttle bodies is the first thing to check, also check manifold rubbers for splitting. Lots of useful information on both UK, AU, USA Multistrada forum’s. Carl
You first need to check for air leaks.if you have never done this yourself it’s better to ask a motorcycle mechanic to do this for you. Or go to your local dealership. You could look on line on your local Ducati forums and ask if they know of a good local mechanic that can help it will be much cheaper than a dealership
Hey Carl, thank you for posting this series. Any special instructions for removing the piece once the two screws have been dremeled off? Any danger of it falling into the cat? - Thanks!
Hi Chris, hello and welcome to the channel, good question and I perhaps should have mentioned this in the video… I used a hoover the suck out the fine small dust particles left over from using the dremel. This way there is no chance of it getting down towards the cat. Good luck with your project. Funnily enough… it just so happens tonight I’m editing a much more detailed video about exhaust valves and the reason why manufacturer install them along with maintenance suggestion and live real time footage of them working. It’s going to be a long video….. Carl
I have a Hypermotard 1100S and live in Cambodia where there is no Ducati dealer. My valve is seized. when they seize is it in the open or closed position ?
Doing this procedure with de dremel the engine light comes on or stay off? i tryed to only detach de cable but the engine ligths comes on. Great Video!!! Ty in advance!
Hello Hariston, yes if you do this with a dremel you will Not get any codes or warning lights on. Leave the cable attached and make sure the vertical shaft is free to rotate smoothly. Have fun it makes a big difference. Welcome to the channel.... Carl
@@justthewayitis I did the service exactly as you showed, I just wasnt so cautious with the valve, never will put it back, Thank you very much for this knowledge! There aways something to be learned!
Hi Karl, great video thanks. Did you fit an exhaust valve eliminator or do you not have to if you just remove the plate and leave the spindle in place??
Are there any mufflers that can quiet the exhaust when a cat delete midpipe is installed? I;;m thinking of putting the stock cat back on, the exhaust flapper rusted and froze anyway so I turned it parallel with the flow. But then a little later installed a midpipe and a dongle after removing the servo. Refit the stock muffler which is just for looks its seems so am considering reinstalling the cat without valve and getting a new stock or aftermarket muffler. My stock one fell off on the highway and a truck ran over it so it looks a bit rough. I've straightened it out a bit and am using it but could look nicer. I like the midpipe but it is a little too far back and close to the rear tire.
Hi Phil most of the aftermarket end cans are a straight through design, so I don't think your going to find one that makes things quieter. But maybe one of the channel subscribers has a suggestion and could post the suggestion here. This is why I decided to leave the cat installed on mine because once I removed the valve the noise level was at a maximum for me, especially on tour. I hope you find a solution. Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl. I've just bought the gen 2 (Dec 12) 1200s Touring. I'm sure one of your videos mentioned changing the battery to a Lithium Ion battery. Can you tell me which video and, if i have seen it somewhere else, your recommendations. The battery on my bike weighs at least 3-4 kilos!
Hi Jonathan, hello and welcome to the channel. What I installed was a Motobatt AGM battery which is still quite heavy, my reason for not installing a lithium ion battery is cold weather starting. So it depends on your location and do you use your bike all year. If your location is warm all year or it's only a summer bike... lithium ion is great. But they can struggle to crank the bike when it's cold. I wanted better faster starting that's why I decided to go AGM. I hope that helps. Best wishes Carl
Hi Dave, it’s tricky to get to, but it’s under the seat on the right hand side down the side panel. If you Google exhaust valve servo plug location on any Ducati forum… you’ll find lots of information. Regards Carl
i wonder what would happen if you modified the flaps with a couple of drilled out holes? Might end up with interesting supercharger like whistle sound.
Hi Carl. I have just taken the cat off the MS, really to clean it up as its the only part of the bike that looks its age. Whilst doing it, loosened the front exhaust bolts and one sheared off flush with the head😒😒!! I just can't get it out so its booked in with Ducati as apparently a common issue! The question is, the cat is REALLY heavy and it would be an ideal opportunity to de cat it with just pipes. The issue here is that I actually love the look of the standard twin exhaust end pipes. Looking on fleabay they are advertised as silencers or mufflers but would they be enough do you think or would you recommend an aftermarket end can as well? There are systems ranging from £7-800+ down to around £270 for a Delkevic system. Have you heard of them and, if so, what do you think?
Hi Jonathan, and welcome to the channel. Sorry to hear about the exhaust stud, yes it's common. Are you prepared for a massive increase in noise!!! If you go down the full decat route, for you and your neighbor's. It really is a big difference one that I decided not to take. By just removing the exhaust valve butterfly I was surprised how much difference it made. But, if your sure, and I also like the look of the original twin pipe system, why not do a decat and reuse the end pipe. It will draw less attention to you and the bike from the Police... but it will sound very nice indeed. Carl
Hi David, no negative effects apart from a little more noise. The valve is really there to control noise emissions. Have fun with your 821 it’s a lovely bike Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis First of all: great channel and great explanation! I just want to install the module. Do I have to change something manually on the flap, or is it automatically open when the module is installed? I think that's the best option for me, because in countries where there are DB regulations, like Austria, I can simply switch back ;) Thanks a lot for your help
Hi carl, great work on my second multi now.. loved my 2013 but just used to eat fork seals, so am on 2015 with non electronic suspension. Am trying to set the static sag up on the bike, by any chance do you know what it is, and what are your suspension settings if you don't mind Had my 13 set up beautifully but struggling with the front end on the 15
Hi Sid, I have no personal experience with suspension settings on the base DVT version. But I would follow the normal rule of 30% sag. So that would give you + or - 51 to 55mm. Front and rear. But I prefer a slightly stiffer front so probably 40 to 45mm front. With maybe 1/4 turn more comp/rebound on the front as the spring has more preload. However... there are some great videos on line and RUclips that you could watch and learn from. Also Dave Moss had 2 or 3 videos just on your bike (base dvt) so maybe watch those too. Best wishes Carl
i have ducati 959 panigale 2015 this butterly doesnt open and close where is it attached to? does it open and close under load or what? mine is all rusted and seized
Hi Gary, your valve should be fully open while the bike is at idle speed, it should then close at around 4,000 rpm and open again at 5,500 rpm (approximately) hopefully yours is seized fully OPEN? Carl
@@justthewayitis hi no is seized fully closed only noticed it when changed to rubbish shotgun exhaust tail pipe and fitted a wee shorty pipe only way the flap open is push the spring with a screwdriver only just got the bike few months ago not been out in it yet properly as Scottish weather is rubbish lol. I have since ordered a blanking plug so no fault light and a cat delete pipe get rid of that also going to sound like a rocket ship 🚀
@@justthewayitis thanks still waiting for the sunshine very rare 😂😂 fitted new heated grips , clear clutch cover , r&g tail tidy , tinted bubble screen , and nice Italian rim stickers even just looking at it is piece of art is indoors so isn’t Rusting away in the rain like it was with previous owner
Hi Joseph, yes I have thought about this, but it is .... (for me at least) much too loud and noisy and would attract attention I just don't want. Removing the valve does almost as good a job as the full decat. Carl
Hello and welcome, to check if the valve has been removed (which is what I have done) you will need to remove the end can and look inside. You can check and see if a Delete module has been installed by removing the seat and looking at the right hand side near the battery to check if a module has been installed. Also if you remove the exhaust heat shield first... and notice the exhaust valve cable has been removed... you do not need to also remove the end can and check the valve... as this means its probably already been modified correctly. I hope that helps. Best wishes Carl
One more thing, while the heat shield is removed, check the valve spring assembly and make sure its turns 90 degrees and its moving freely. The spring should always return to the open position... that is its normal state. But do check because they seize solid on older bikes and cause various problems.
But if you do that the ecu will report an error on the dashboard, But yes the valve would remain open. The best way is to do what I did, and only remove the circular disc.
Hey Karl, Great series and learned a lot. So much it made me do a testdrive today. It drive great and gives you quick confidence to go a bit quicker, and feels light in steering. I love the model and the looks. I drive a Triumph Street Triple R wich i love driving. But i get problems with my back en wrists after a few hundred kilometers.. I love the white 1200S. Went to see it. But it wasn't what i expected. My Triumph is al clean and nice to look at. This one wasn't clean at all. Had scratches on the tft dashboard and so on... Are they difficult to keep clean?? Is the tft dashboard that fragile for scratches....? Greetz
Hello Enno, thank you, I'm pleased to hear you had a test ride and enjoyed it. Yes I find they are harder to clean than the other bikes I have owned, my multistrada was much much simpler and quicker to clean and keep looking like new. Yes the TFT does scratch if your not very very careful with it, many owners fit a protective layer (15€ ish) but the GS does clean up very well it just takes more effort and time. The SS-R is a nice bike, but the GS something very different and MUCH more comfortable. Best wishes Carl
Hi Lionel, welcome to the channel, thank you for the compliment and good luck with starting your modification. Tip, the preload on the front has 20 turns, when you buy one from a dealer they have to set them back to Zero, so I'm sure you have done this but I found 12 to 14 full turns clockwise really helps the front end, rebound standard and 1/4 turn more compression. Have fun. Carl I'm 90kg.
@@justthewayitis 😢 for the GS purchase 😂😂😂 thanks for the suspension tip. I will also look into it. I am a big guy and I often ride with my wife. Need to take that into consideration
Your thoughts regarding a person's height and the multistrada, I'm 6"4, and can't ride the sport/ tourer style anymore due to arthritis in my knees, and my shoulder hurts after leaning forward for extended periods ......your height? Good content. 👍
Hi Aaron, hello and welcome to the channel. I am 6 foot 1.83m tall, I started with headdown sports bikes and eventually like your now finding... had to find a different solution. If you still would like the performance then the Multistrada is still the way to go. No question, but it's close between all the top brands. All of them have around 150 hp which is more than enough. With the twin cylinder bikes you gain plenty of low down push... which is probably more useable than the 4 cylinder version.. but we each like different things from our bikes. As to which version it depends on your budget. The new V4S is a lovely bike, but its expensive, the V2S is also extremely good but more affordable, but lacks that final bit of excitement you get with the V4S. The 2017 DVT is a great bike too and available used for a reasonable price. My advice is to test as many bikes as you can and see what suits best. I can ride all day - 10+ hours on my multistrada without any aches or pains. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you Carl, much appreciated, I do own a Ultra limited, and enjoy it...........now, took awhile to get used to, the style I mean, but just looking for that extra something, I suppose, handling and performance with comfort, have taken a Ducati diavel for a ride back in 2016 when I lived in Australia, love it, but a little small for me, missed out on the demo multistrada. Thank you.
I was riding a 99 r1100gs when I got the Ducati. My legs felt a little too bent on the BMW and I wanted a little more sporty bike. There is a web site where you can compare seating positions on different bikes. The multi has a more relaxed leg position for rider and passenger compared to the BMW I had.
Hi Ching, sorry no I don't but removing the valve is very easy. If you look on your local Ducati forums... there are lots of videos and how to guides. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis I put a full system on a 2010 twin cam r1200gs and it was horrendous, then rode to Garmisch from N.I. we came out of a tunnel on the timmeljosch and stopped at the view point a guy approached and said we all thought a MotoGP was coming the noise was that loud.! I told him you should have been in the tunnel on the bike, lol Never again
@@justthewayitis be careful what you wish for we are in that region on the 30th of June 2022. we get the bike shipped to Memmingen from Ireland we fly in to meet it and travel on.
Well you and your bikes will arrive approximately 440km away from us. Kassel is our nearest city, but end of June should be lovely weather here, and in southern Germany. I presume your heading south from the airport into the mountains Sounds a lovely plan. It's a funny world... a few days after you arrival we (our bike club) are heading north for our Norway tour which we have been planning for several years. Sadly it was cancelled in 2020 and 2021 due to Corona restrictions entering Norway. But currently it's all looking good. If I wasn't going North I would head south to say hello. I'm sure you are aware... be careful if you head into Switzerland speeding can be extremely costly and last year they were more active with stopping bikers. 😊👍
Hello and welcome. Follow the link below for the part numbers you need. The crash bars are OEM Ducati. Best wishes Carl www.bike-parts-ducati.com/ducati-motorcycle/Multistrada/2013/Multistrada_1200_S_GT/Multistrada-1200-S-GT/ACCESSORIES/372/2319/0/372
@@justthewayitis maybe later on but first i could do that to try how it will sound first to see if it is going to be too loud for me or not... what do you think? Any drawbacks in this plan?
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Another benefit of the module option is that you'll no longer have to service the flap valve. I've found that I need to clean and lubricate mine at least twice a year or else it seizes. I'm considering locking it fully open and fooling the ECU with the aftermarket module. Seems the best plan to me. Thanks for the video 👍
Hi good afternoon, welcome to the channel and thank you for your input. This why I removed the butterfly completely, ecu still things it’s present and the vertical spindle no long seizes.
Have a great Sunday
Carl
Surely with the module you wouldn't need to lock it open. It would report it closed when necessary but the valve wouldn't move in actuality.
Add the module or remove the butterfly both solutions work just fine. I chose to remove the butterfly / disc which was simple enough to do. Carl
Another great video, you are the find of the week!
Thank you Stephen, 🙏🙋🏻♂️
The next thing you should do to improve low speed (and generally everywhere) running is balance the throttle bodies. This is not covered by Ducati servicing. As you know the Multistrada is ride by wire and the horizontal cylinder's intake is controlled by a stepper motor and the vertical cylinder is slaved to this by a mechanical linkage. Using vacuum gauges teed into the pressure sensors for each cylinder to take the readings and adjust the settings with the spring loaded screw under the left hand side back of the tank. Unfortunately you have to switch the engine off each time you adjust it so that you can get a screwdriver on it. Mine was quite a bit out and has made the bike much better at lower RPM's.
Hi Heath, welcome and thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. This is good advice and much Appreciated. Carl
Very true 🤙
I've done both the +2R gearing change (at the 600 miles first service) and the Ducc-EE servo eliminator on my 2018 1260 MTS Pikes Peak.
Great mods especially the gearing. Now looking at an ECU flash to improve throttle response and remove some of the built-in restrictions.
Hi Dar, the PP sure is a nice bike, lucky you 👍 and you’ve done some great mods.
Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you. Your videos are nice btw which I should have mentioned at the start. I only have one youtube short video and coincidentally, it's about the exhaust valve.
@@justthewayitis I only have one RUclips video and coincidentally, its about the exhaust valve.
ruclips.net/user/shortswjfR-sG6TWc
@@justthewayitis Your two mods in this video were my first as well. Others include short levers for two finger action, throttle spacer to remove the slop, removing the 2 lb rear mud guard to reduce unsprung weight and a GPS mounting bracket. a removable backrest for Mrs D and lastly and recently, I bought a comfort seat.
Hi Dar, thank you for your feedback and I’m pleased you have enjoyed the series , sounds like some nice upgrades you have done.
I’ll watch your YT sort later this weekend 👍🙋🏻♂️
Hey, thanks very much for you excellent videos. Sorry if this is answered already but I'm not clear on the physical removal of the valve and the use of the electrical module. The module is an option to achieve the same results if you don't want to physically remove the valve, or do you need to do both? Thanks again. 2012 1200S
Hi Todd, the electronic module in effect deactivates the exhaust valve, this means you do not need to physically remove it. 🙋🏻♂️
Good luck with your project
Kind regards Carl
I want to remove the valve completely on my 1299S. You mentioned grinding off the welds to get the restrictor plate off. After youve done this you will be left with just the metal rod. Is it possible to slide this out or do yo have to physically cut it from the inside as well? Once you do remove it how do you deal with the resulting holes? I assume welding them shut.
Hi Oscar, once the circular disc is removed, you’re done !
There is negligible benefit from removing the vertical post, just leave it where it is.
Regards Carl
My cat box is sinfully ugly and could use a polishing or a ceramic coating of some sort. Would you have a video highlighting the steps required to remove the cat box?
Hi Dar, no I don’t have a video covering that, but I’m sure the many Ducati forums around the world will have that covered by their members.
Carl
Hi there 👋 quick question what if instead of removing the valve I just tie it with a wire so the valve doesn’t close. Will it be the same results and will I need the Vizi Tec for that?
Hi, you haven’t given any clear details about which make, model or year so I can’t answer your question. But in general you could simply try this and see what happens, also check on your local forums and I’m sure many have done this.
Carl
Great video Carl! Closing on 2,000 subscribers too 👍😁
Hi Carl. Last year I bought a multistrada 1200 S 2015. I just suffering with stall issues in idle or when I’m slowing down to a traffic light or a stop. Apparently it is a very common issue but I haven’t found a solution yet. Can you give me an advice or do you know something about this issue. Thanks in advance.
Hi Ricardo, it’s quite often an air leak, vacuum hoses on or around the throttle bodies is the first thing to check, also check manifold rubbers for splitting.
Lots of useful information on both UK, AU, USA Multistrada forum’s.
Carl
@@justthewayitis thank you very much for answering, I lived in Colombia. What you propose is to replace those parts? Regards
You first need to check for air leaks.if you have never done this yourself it’s better to ask a motorcycle mechanic to do this for you. Or go to your local dealership.
You could look on line on your local Ducati forums and ask if they know of a good local mechanic that can help it will be much cheaper than a dealership
Hey Carl, thank you for posting this series. Any special instructions for removing the piece once the two screws have been dremeled off? Any danger of it falling into the cat? - Thanks!
Hi Chris, hello and welcome to the channel, good question and I perhaps should have mentioned this in the video…
I used a hoover the suck out the fine small dust particles left over from using the dremel. This way there is no chance of it getting down towards the cat.
Good luck with your project.
Funnily enough… it just so happens tonight I’m editing a much more detailed video about exhaust valves and the reason why manufacturer install them along with maintenance suggestion and live real time footage of them working. It’s going to be a long video…..
Carl
It makes a big improvement on the early multistrada 😉
I have a Hypermotard 1100S and live in Cambodia where there is no Ducati dealer. My valve is seized. when they seize is it in the open or closed position ?
Sorry I don’t know as I have not worked on a 1100S, you will need to have a look inside.
It depends. Mostly closed.
Thank you 🙏
Doing this procedure with de dremel the engine light comes on or stay off? i tryed to only detach de cable but the engine ligths comes on. Great Video!!! Ty in advance!
Hello Hariston, yes if you do this with a dremel you will Not get any codes or warning lights on. Leave the cable attached and make sure the vertical shaft is free to rotate smoothly. Have fun it makes a big difference. Welcome to the channel.... Carl
@@justthewayitis I did the service exactly as you showed, I just wasnt so
cautious with the valve, never will put it back, Thank you very much for this knowledge! There aways something to be learned!
Well I’m pleased you were successful and well done for doing it yourself. Carl
Hi Karl, great video thanks. Did you fit an exhaust valve eliminator or do you not have to if you just remove the plate and leave the spindle in place??
Hi Jonathan and welcome to the channel, correct I just removed the round butterfly and left everything else in place. It worked perfectly 🤞
Are there any mufflers that can quiet the exhaust when a cat delete midpipe is installed? I;;m thinking of putting the stock cat back on, the exhaust flapper rusted and froze anyway so I turned it parallel with the flow. But then a little later installed a midpipe and a dongle after removing the servo. Refit the stock muffler which is just for looks its seems so am considering reinstalling the cat without valve and getting a new stock or aftermarket muffler. My stock one fell off on the highway and a truck ran over it so it looks a bit rough. I've straightened it out a bit and am using it but could look nicer. I like the midpipe but it is a little too far back and close to the rear tire.
Hi Phil most of the aftermarket end cans are a straight through design, so I don't think your going to find one that makes things quieter. But maybe one of the channel subscribers has a suggestion and could post the suggestion here.
This is why I decided to leave the cat installed on mine because once I removed the valve the noise level was at a maximum for me, especially on tour. I hope you find a solution. Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl. I've just bought the gen 2 (Dec 12) 1200s Touring. I'm sure one of your videos mentioned changing the battery to a Lithium Ion battery. Can you tell me which video and, if i have seen it somewhere else, your recommendations. The battery on my bike weighs at least 3-4 kilos!
Hi Jonathan, hello and welcome to the channel. What I installed was a Motobatt AGM battery which is still quite heavy, my reason for not installing a lithium ion battery is cold weather starting. So it depends on your location and do you use your bike all year. If your location is warm all year or it's only a summer bike... lithium ion is great. But they can struggle to crank the bike when it's cold. I wanted better faster starting that's why I decided to go AGM. I hope that helps.
Best wishes Carl
Thanks Carl. I'm in the UK and don't really use the bike a lot in the winter. It's hooked up to a trickle charger all the time as well
Then Lithium ion it is then...👍😊
Hi Karl brilliant information again just a question where do you plug the exhaust delete module in ?
Thanks Dave
Hi Dave, it’s tricky to get to, but it’s under the seat on the right hand side down the side panel. If you Google exhaust valve servo plug location on any Ducati forum… you’ll find lots of information.
Regards Carl
Wicked thanks Karl add it to the list of things you’re making me do 🤣👍
Your very welcome Dave 👍
Good luck with your project
i wonder what would happen if you modified the flaps with a couple of drilled out holes? Might end up with interesting supercharger like whistle sound.
Probably cause more issues with uneven airflow, Its easier just to remove it 👍. Have a great weekend.
Hi Carl. I have just taken the cat off the MS, really to clean it up as its the only part of the bike that looks its age. Whilst doing it, loosened the front exhaust bolts and one sheared off flush with the head😒😒!! I just can't get it out so its booked in with Ducati as apparently a common issue! The question is, the cat is REALLY heavy and it would be an ideal opportunity to de cat it with just pipes. The issue here is that I actually love the look of the standard twin exhaust end pipes. Looking on fleabay they are advertised as silencers or mufflers but would they be enough do you think or would you recommend an aftermarket end can as well? There are systems ranging from £7-800+ down to around £270 for a Delkevic system. Have you heard of them and, if so, what do you think?
Hi Jonathan, and welcome to the channel. Sorry to hear about the exhaust stud, yes it's common.
Are you prepared for a massive increase in noise!!! If you go down the full decat route, for you and your neighbor's. It really is a big difference one that I decided not to take. By just removing the exhaust valve butterfly I was surprised how much difference it made.
But, if your sure, and I also like the look of the original twin pipe system, why not do a decat and reuse the end pipe. It will draw less attention to you and the bike from the Police... but it will sound very nice indeed. Carl
Hello from Paris …. Sorry for that but I did not understand the needs for the dremel use.
Hello Mongi, no problem, the dremel was used to grind off the two small screws that hold the round disc / valve to the spindle. Carl
hey,
I would like to know if turning the valve off with the eliminator will it have any negative effects on the engine? im riding a Monster 821
Hi David, no negative effects apart from a little more noise. The valve is really there to control noise emissions.
Have fun with your 821 it’s a lovely bike
Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis First of all: great channel and great explanation! I just want to install the module. Do I have to change something manually on the flap, or is it automatically open when the module is installed? I think that's the best option for me, because in countries where there are DB regulations, like Austria, I can simply switch back ;)
Thanks a lot for your help
Hi David, if you search on RUclips for
Healtech exhaust valve servo eliminator - Ducati you’re find several videos showing you what you need do. Carl
Different brands have slightly different install instructions but they are all fairly easy to fit
Let me know how you get on 👍
Hi Carl, are there anymore multistrada videos coming? Love the channel by the way.
Hi Shaun, I would love to do some more, fingers crossed 🤞
Hi carl, great work on my second multi now.. loved my 2013 but just used to eat fork seals, so am on 2015 with non electronic suspension. Am trying to set the static sag up on the bike, by any chance do you know what it is, and what are your suspension settings if you don't mind
Had my 13 set up beautifully but struggling with the front end on the 15
Hi Sid, I have no personal experience with suspension settings on the base DVT version. But I would follow the normal rule of 30% sag. So that would give you + or - 51 to 55mm. Front and rear. But I prefer a slightly stiffer front so probably 40 to 45mm front. With maybe 1/4 turn more comp/rebound on the front as the spring has more preload.
However... there are some great videos on line and RUclips that you could watch and learn from. Also Dave Moss had 2 or 3 videos just on your bike (base dvt) so maybe watch those too.
Best wishes Carl
My 2013 base was 12 to 14 full turns in for preload. The max is 20.
i have ducati 959 panigale 2015 this butterly doesnt open and close where is it attached to? does it open and close under load or what? mine is all rusted and seized
Hi Gary, your valve should be fully open while the bike is at idle speed, it should then close at around 4,000 rpm and open again at 5,500 rpm (approximately) hopefully yours is seized fully OPEN?
Carl
@@justthewayitis hi no is seized fully closed only noticed it when changed to rubbish shotgun exhaust tail pipe and fitted a wee shorty pipe only way the flap open is push the spring with a screwdriver only just got the bike few months ago not been out in it yet properly as Scottish weather is rubbish lol. I have since ordered a blanking plug so no fault light and a cat delete pipe get rid of that also going to sound like a rocket ship 🚀
Hi Gary, sounds like a great solution you have planned, the 959 is a lovely bike I hope you enjoy your summer 👍
Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks still waiting for the sunshine very rare 😂😂 fitted new heated grips , clear clutch cover , r&g tail tidy , tinted bubble screen , and nice Italian rim stickers even just looking at it is piece of art is indoors so isn’t Rusting away in the rain like it was with previous owner
Yeah, they know how to make a beautiful looking motorbike 🙋🏻♂️
That was a very helpful vid., thanks
One of the big advantages of an aftermarket muffler over the OE is that it is much, much, lighter.
Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍🙋🏻♂️
What about an entire deCAT removal? Have you tried or considered this?
Hi Joseph, yes I have thought about this, but it is .... (for me at least) much too loud and noisy and would attract attention I just don't want. Removing the valve does almost as good a job as the full decat. Carl
Hi Carl. About the Exhaust valve, Is there any way of telling if this has already been done without taking the exhaust off?
Hello and welcome, to check if the valve has been removed (which is what I have done) you will need to remove the end can and look inside.
You can check and see if a Delete module has been installed by removing the seat and looking at the right hand side near the battery to check if a module has been installed.
Also if you remove the exhaust heat shield first... and notice the exhaust valve cable has been removed... you do not need to also remove the end can and check the valve... as this means its probably already been modified correctly. I hope that helps. Best wishes Carl
One more thing, while the heat shield is removed, check the valve spring assembly and make sure its turns 90 degrees and its moving freely. The spring should always return to the open position... that is its normal state. But do check because they seize solid on older bikes and cause various problems.
What if we just take out the cable? the valve will always remain open.
But if you do that the ecu will report an error on the dashboard,
But yes the valve would remain open.
The best way is to do what I did, and only remove the circular disc.
I love your Videos, keep going!
Hi Rich, welcome and thank you. Carl
Hey Karl, Great series and learned a lot. So much it made me do a testdrive today. It drive great and gives you quick confidence to go a bit quicker, and feels light in steering. I love the model and the looks. I drive a Triumph Street Triple R wich i love driving. But i get problems with my back en wrists after a few hundred kilometers.. I love the white 1200S. Went to see it. But it wasn't what i expected. My Triumph is al clean and nice to look at. This one wasn't clean at all. Had scratches on the tft dashboard and so on... Are they difficult to keep clean?? Is the tft dashboard that fragile for scratches....? Greetz
Hello Enno, thank you, I'm pleased to hear you had a test ride and enjoyed it. Yes I find they are harder to clean than the other bikes I have owned, my multistrada was much much simpler and quicker to clean and keep looking like new. Yes the TFT does scratch if your not very very careful with it, many owners fit a protective layer (15€ ish) but the GS does clean up very well it just takes more effort and time. The SS-R is a nice bike, but the GS something very different and MUCH more comfortable.
Best wishes Carl
Amazing video as the other. Thanks for the tips and explanations - can’t wait to modify my MS1200ABS with the same suspensions as yours…. ✊🏻
Hi Lionel, welcome to the channel, thank you for the compliment and good luck with starting your modification. Tip, the preload on the front has 20 turns, when you buy one from a dealer they have to set them back to Zero, so I'm sure you have done this but I found 12 to 14 full turns clockwise really helps the front end, rebound standard and 1/4 turn more compression. Have fun. Carl I'm 90kg.
@@justthewayitis 😢 for the GS purchase 😂😂😂 thanks for the suspension tip. I will also look into it. I am a big guy and I often ride with my wife. Need to take that into consideration
The pillion seat is a great place to be, my wife is very happy there as long as the top box is fitted. Smile. Carl
Your thoughts regarding a person's height and the multistrada, I'm 6"4, and can't ride the sport/ tourer style anymore due to arthritis in my knees, and my shoulder hurts after leaning forward for extended periods ......your height?
Good content. 👍
Hi Aaron, hello and welcome to the channel. I am 6 foot 1.83m tall, I started with headdown sports bikes and eventually like your now finding... had to find a different solution. If you still would like the performance then the Multistrada is still the way to go. No question, but it's close between all the top brands. All of them have around 150 hp which is more than enough. With the twin cylinder bikes you gain plenty of low down push... which is probably more useable than the 4 cylinder version.. but we each like different things from our bikes.
As to which version it depends on your budget. The new V4S is a lovely bike, but its expensive, the V2S is also extremely good but more affordable, but lacks that final bit of excitement you get with the V4S. The 2017 DVT is a great bike too and available used for a reasonable price.
My advice is to test as many bikes as you can and see what suits best.
I can ride all day - 10+ hours on my multistrada without any aches or pains.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you Carl, much appreciated, I do own a Ultra limited, and enjoy it...........now, took awhile to get used to, the style I mean, but just looking for that extra something, I suppose, handling and performance with comfort, have taken a Ducati diavel for a ride back in 2016 when I lived in Australia, love it, but a little small for me, missed out on the demo multistrada.
Thank you.
I was riding a 99 r1100gs when I got the Ducati. My legs felt a little too bent on the BMW and I wanted a little more sporty bike. There is a web site where you can compare seating positions on different bikes. The multi has a more relaxed leg position for rider and passenger compared to the BMW I had.
do you have a video on how you removed the valve? 😊
Hi Ching, sorry no I don't but removing the valve is very easy. If you look on your local Ducati forums... there are lots of videos and how to guides. Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl, now all you need to do is take the flap out of the 1250 GS and see what that does, LOL Robert.
Lol... the thought has indeed crossed my mind. Smile...
@@justthewayitis I put a full system on a 2010 twin cam r1200gs and it was horrendous, then rode to Garmisch from N.I. we came out of a tunnel on the timmeljosch and stopped at the view point a guy approached and said we all thought a MotoGP was coming the noise was that loud.! I told him you should have been in the tunnel on the bike, lol Never again
Well I can imagine lol... next time your heading down to Garmisch or through Germany.. let me know. Smile
@@justthewayitis be careful what you wish for we are in that region on the 30th of June 2022. we get the bike shipped to Memmingen from Ireland we fly in to meet it and travel on.
Well you and your bikes will arrive approximately 440km away from us. Kassel is our nearest city, but end of June should be lovely weather here, and in southern Germany. I presume your heading south from the airport into the mountains Sounds a lovely plan.
It's a funny world... a few days after you arrival we (our bike club) are heading north for our Norway tour which we have been planning for several years. Sadly it was cancelled in 2020 and 2021 due to Corona restrictions entering Norway. But currently it's all looking good.
If I wasn't going North I would head south to say hello.
I'm sure you are aware... be careful if you head into Switzerland speeding can be extremely costly and last year they were more active with stopping bikers.
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Hi Great videos 10 Stars ! does anyone make one for Multistrada V2 thanks Ash
Hi Ash, thankyou for the compliment, I am not aware of anyone yet making a specific series for the new multistrada V2. Best wishes Carl
Thank you for your update Ash
Hi, can you please tell me the model of the crash bars you are using? I can’t find them, thank you
Hello and welcome.
Follow the link below for the part numbers you need. The crash bars are OEM Ducati.
Best wishes Carl
www.bike-parts-ducati.com/ducati-motorcycle/Multistrada/2013/Multistrada_1200_S_GT/Multistrada-1200-S-GT/ACCESSORIES/372/2319/0/372
What of we only disconnect the wire instead of removing the valve and make it always open
Hi Baula, yes you could do that but it’s better to also use a delete module so you don’t get any fault codes.
@@justthewayitis maybe later on but first i could do that to try how it will sound first to see if it is going to be too loud for me or not... what do you think? Any drawbacks in this plan?
@bo2la4ever Noise is noticeably louder all friends complained 🙄
So will disconnect the wire, see hiw it will sound then decide if i want to bypass the valve or not then
@bo2la4ever yes, try it first and see what you think,
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A valve closing the exhaust flow isn’t a good idea in any book. I feel the valves are just for noise regulations.
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