Triangle Signature Theta 💎 _(Z Reviews)_ Pure Audiophile Speakers
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I love it, “if you own a cheeseburger restaurant.....”
The opening monologue about cheeseburgers is probably the most American thing I’ve ever heard!...
13:08 "One room of the third...from the back" Ah Z, don't ever change
They look like 1950s automotive art. Gorgeous!
I can listen to my Triangles for hours on end. They are fantastic speakers. They don't get tiring at all.
That intro, I laughed in joy👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I just purchased these....OMG I'm in love with them....the sound is brilliant and on my crappy amplifier. Amp upgrade coming!!
Where did buy them?
@@Cooliewhistles I bought them here in Australia. But if you're in Europe you can get them at a good price there.
Great review, thanks a lot!! I do own a pair and really like them. One thing to add to the review: the Thetas are fast and accentuate the rhythm of music very nicely. Fast front end helps.
So he does look like Jack Black.
Also Tony from cinnemassacre haha
He IS Jack Black
I love that you finally did some high end speakers! =) Everybody just review cheap shit! its about time to up standards! btw love your channel, been following you from the beginning. Please more 2000 - 6000 dollar stuff.
More expensive ones have tweeters that are incased in a CNC machined from an aluminum billit instead of cast...plus the tweters are more refined. They have better mid range drivers too and higher end crossover parts. Magellan also weigh 2x as much as the signature it looks like so cabinets upgraded. Look at another brand from Sweden called QLN next at the Prestige 5. They go down to 26 htz ;) Almost at Zeos level and the distributor is telling me they are magnificent with bass quality, speed, clarity. PLUS they are time aligned and have larger off axis sweet spot then Triangle with the best soft dome Scan Speak makes. Illuminator tweeter offers superb vocal rendition and excellent imaging and extension at all listening positions. Its large roll surround and textile dome diaphragm provides a flat frequency response above 30 KHz with outstanding off-axis dispersion. The unique AirCirc magnet system and its rear chamber eliminates any reflections and resonances.Audiophile stuff rulez!
Can confirm Magellan Duettos are awesome. I went for the Magellan Duettos and bought a demo-pair for half the list price. This was already over my intended budget but I could not resist. It's a significant price to pay but if you are considering speakers in this price range, and you can demo a pair of duettos, do at least consider them.
And still over priced. How expensive can you make a driver? How expensive can you make a cabinet? How expensive can you make a crossover? 32k for a pair of speakers and 30k of it is for "name and design". Its why those high end wilson audio alex sell for 10 to 20k used and thats still overpriced.
@@sergeysmelnik please show me where you can get an alex for $10k. You do realize that there are also studio monitors that cost over $30k. There is more that goes into the cost of a product than just the components. Also there are speakers where the cost of the enclosure is high look at magico and yg.
@@sergeysmelnik Umm you have no idea how much R&D and time goes into some of this stuff. It takes over a month to make some Magico speakers and a week for their cheapeest ones. Manufacturing to the high end level is done at ther same palces they make aircraft parts and Nasa space grade circuit boards.
love it. i mean who else would review a 4000 dollar speaker sitting on a 4 dollar chair? that’s not a rhetorical question please feel free to enlighten us all 😳
Nice point ;)
I do not usually make a fuss over reviewing kit but I want people to know that these speakers (theta signature stand mounts). Superb - I mean superb timing - tonally neutral - we use these for reference after our studio monitors. I bought from a very unpleasant firm in scotland - let me down in other respects but these speakers are exceptional. Some will say 'bright' - I would argue - check your source - when fed right and a a good sub might help - but not essential - these are lovely speakers - v.accurate across the board and well made. Tough tweeters positioned outside the main enclosure will open things up for you - on the proviso that your source/amp are good enough - nil fatigue with a solid source - charming with good vinyl/analogue.
26:39 “SVS took the Ultras and said ‘Fuck em up’ and sold them for half price.” HAHA
Might I suggest for future reviews Maggie LRS, Zu Dirty Weekend, Tekton Double Impact, Spatial Audio M3/M5 Sapphires... Also those HC-1s look pure sex monoblocks beside the thetas. excited for your review of them especially compared to 2502!
Fyne Audio F502 would also be fine.
Maggie and Zu's
Zeos there is a reason that you can only buy these from a dealer. It has to do with the fact that if you could buy these online it would hurt the dealers who carry them. Without these dealers it would be very hard to audition highend audio gear. This is common for most brands in the highend space.
I think that if someone is looking to purchase a speaker that is around or over $5k you would try to find a dealer and a way to get there to audition it. I try to support local dealers as much as possible. You can usually get a better price from a local dealer. Also if you build a relationship with them you can get extended at home auditions too. These dealers also carry brands that you can't buy online like wilson, magico, yg, rockport, ect.
2:35 yeah the shape reduces what is also known as flutter echo 👍🏼 I bet they sound amazing... I remember when Paradigm “copied” B&W’s. I had the Studio 100’s and in the words of Zeos “Yes, just yes”
Your voice has gotten lower.
Why haven't you purchased "Sound Anchor" electrically adjustable speaker stands?
You need a Tekton "DragonFly" fix.
Great review Z...but you're now entering into the magic audiophile rabbit hole
After much time, I finally JUST ordered these in the mahogany finish.
Replacing my Fyne Audio F501's with these as soon as they arrive since I already prefer the Triangle Comete to them, and will probably sell my Focal Aria 906's too since I also prefer the Comete to them, that should make up for the cost lol.
Can't wait to compare these in 2.1 compared to my current setup in movies and music.
And how are they?
@@slyfoxx8540 As amazing as I'd hoped, thankfully, and I sold the Focals.
The imaging in movies is better than my Fyne Audio even with the center channel, difference in music is even bigger. Hell the missing center channel with the Thetas sounds better than the actual center channel F500c, voicing sounds more on point and more natural.
The sound is definitely bigger in every way and low level listening is improved but not by much, my best sounding amp to me is the Advance Paris A10 Classic which might be a limiting factor, haven't tried it with my Rotel RC 1590+1582 MKII though.
Loved it so much I ordered the center channel to go with them. It fills the room better for movies, as expected, still hard to justify the cost though since I still prefer listening to music in stereo since I won't be affording a more "musical" AVR than my CXR200 any time soon, and the subwoofer outputs just stopped working on it too -.-
@@ericmann1781 thanks for the detailed response👍
Am loving how you're saying how good it sounds without centre channel as I'm using a 4.1 lol.
Think I'm gonna have to try these out now it seems to have ticked all the boxes and sounds like my type of speaker.
Am surprised you've not tried them on your rotels yet, have heard good things about them and had the 1580 on my list not long ago. And I wonder how long it is till you get a new avr, I've got 2 people I know who have had said the same thing and tried to hang on to they're recievers till literally the day the red lights fade lol, and next day they're in the forums asking people about new models🤣
Appreciate the help, many thanks.
Chocolate milk in a wine glass ... you are so very fancy! :D
should be really interesting to hear your review on the Triangle Genese Trio, are similar in shape but less expensive (not made in France) now available in US for $1400 and for the price may be a good deal for some folks here.
Zeos, the Maxxell Guy. Classic! Time to play Ride of the Valkyries!!
When I saw the folding chair out in front of your sofa, I knew these would be the type of speakers that would throw my Type AAA into hyperdrive. Really tempting, though.
Alice in Chains songs are in drop D. A tad lower than the 41hz of E. So no need for 25hz. The low B of a 5 string bass is 31hz. If the person listens to some weird ass metal in drop A, then it is really close to 25hz.
Thanks Zeo$ , appricate your hard work and dedication Triangle making some kickass looking speakers 😆
Z can you make an updated "sound bar alternative", I need a solid video to send to my friends before they make some big mistakes. The last one you made is like 5 years old and honestly you're way more interesting and entertaining now.
Just send them his vid on the Edifier s350db's
Thx for another great review. I'm considering triangles for my next upgrade and since you are the only reviewer I found to hear both speakers, can you please compare them with comete ez? In Europe, if you are lucky, can get Thetas for about double the money. Are they worth it, would you pay the extra?
Sounds like Z is having an audiophile epiphany. This channel has been built on mid-fi, good stuff, but more mid-fi stuff. Anyone who wonders why some stuff costs $$$$ and it it makes a difference, listen to Z rant. You don't have to spend 5 or 6 figures to get amazing sound, you don't need $2k power cables, or cable lifters.... but if you can spend $5-$10k on a well made, well matched system, set up in a decent room, it will blow your mind. I call it a hologram machine not a stereo.
If these speakers were built by a pro audio brand for studios with the same drivers and cabinet but built in amps it would cost 1k.
@@sergeysmelnik yea and it wouldn't sound the same since pro audio and home audio sound very different
I know exactly what you mean about trying to buy Triangle. I went to their site, searched every retailer they said was a distributor, and out of all of hem, there was only one that was still selling them, and they were running them out. Managed to get a pair of the Comete at a bargain price, but far too much effort to try and give my money to someone!
Sound amazing, and wish they were everywhere, but even talking directly to the company and it was difficult to get info.
I see you ran them with the Emotiva Monoblocks, what DAC or preamp did you use?
OMG THAT OPENING TRACK
What a heart throb
In French, comète is pronounced 'co-met' (with a short o), as a random fyi. :D
Please review Triangle Genese Trio, that has entered the US&A market now 😍
yeah i wonder how both of them compares
The shape of those speakers remind me of the Polk RTi A series - which I don't remember to see any review from you on them. Especially the small bookshelf RTi A1 that can be found at very good prices now on the internet. Any thoughts?
Polk are nice, but truelly Triangle are really on another very different level far above.
The French company Atoll makes great amp and cd players.
I don't give a shit how expensive they are, you show me what's out there and I'll decide if I need to buy it. I bought my Mackie big knob studio plus and my Marshall major 3 because of your reaction to them in your videos. I wouldn't have had to watch the full video, within 30 seconds I knew that it was for me just because of how you acted. Good to hear chewy is doing good! So, You've been Audiofiolated?
My check was only $1200 or I'd buy these right now. Money going to France still counts as stimulus right?
For all the peeps who say 'it's crazy that you have to add a sub to speakers this price' it's normal. bookshelf speakers only have 1 driver most of the time, towers a lot more. The point is that towers can move way more air then a little bookshelf, that is what bass is all about, you need drivers and air movement. Personally I don't like bookshelfs because I always feel like i mis bass, thats why I have towers. I would rather have the Esprit towers then these because they are bigger.
It depends on your room size. You can't fit towers that can go as low as a sub into anything even moderatly sized, but you can fit a sub that can go as low as the towers with a set of bookshelves into even a small rooom due to the flexiblity of placement and size. But it is harder to blend to two cross overs as now they a spereate units in different locations. Ultimately, if you want full range to sound legitimately "full" you are always going to need a sub to off load the ability of even the largest towers.
Even a SVS SB1000 will have more output and extension below 40Hz then just about any floor standing speaker.
@@Jordonater A pair of SVS PB-1000's = $950. Worth every penny!
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 subwoofers won't deliver the scale of sound a full range speaker does. I have high end towers and subs and I prefer to listen to the towers as full range without subs. Mine go to 28 hz. That is all you really need for music. Ofcourse it depends on the speaker. I have had towers that like having a stub but
can't say that a sub is always better the a tower. Then you are just looking at the FR and nothing more.
@@Jordonater that is bs my friend sorry
Case no one's brought this up yet, those Jamo C93 II's have dropped drastically (and I mean drastically) in price. They are no longer $749 a pair on Crutchfield....now showing only $316 if you can believe it! (I already ordered a pair). It's funny, cuz I was real close to ordering those Diamond 11.2's for $399! (which is a good price too btw). And they have 'em in white too
Not to offend you or anything, but the Jamo were always supposed to cost around ~190 MSRP per speaker and they were on sale for 147 a piece forever until the sudden price hike in January but even then they didn't cost 749 anywhere else.
@@Kill0rbAg It doesn't offend me, they're not my speakers...I didn't make them. All i know is, since Crutchfield started carrying them about 6 months ago, they have consistenly remained at $749, never ever wavering in price....until now. (Yes it's true you could've bought them on Amazon for $470 a pair...which have been at that price for well over a month now). Trust me, there was no way in h*ll i'd ever pay over $700 for those speakers...but $315? H*ll yeah!
Cough, cough.... ah..... 25 Hz and below for a Sub was taught to me by a member of the Reggae band- Steel Pulse in 80's. 1980's were the years of bass stacks at every gathering. House parties, empty parking lots, school yards during the summer, etc...... Gas up the generator, if no avail. power, and you were good to thump out the beats.
Strange. In Poland no problem to buy this in normal audio shop. 9 polish online shops have it. So its mater of country you live...
I'd love to get my hands on a pair of those for review! In the meantime...need to get me some chocolate milk! Top video Z!
25hz...man, you need some Tektons. I hope someone's reached out to Eric Alexander on your behalf.
That was a really, REALLY great review! Been wondering what would happen when some audiophile stuffs got in there.
Thanks, Z! Always wanted your opinion on that level of speaker. If they don't pass your muster...Z Muster....they ain't worth it. All best!
If I am not wrong the Golden piece in the Center of the tweeter Is made from titanium.
"i need to drink some wine with a nice lady" That was.... surprisingly sweet.
Your breathin heavy on this one Zeos, you must be excited for these.
Honestly Chocolate Milk was a Bad Choice.
I didn't know Jack Black is an Audiophile reviewer 😋👍
That was my first impression when I first saw these reviews a few weeks ago.
Can you tell the difference between Triangle Signature Theta and Triangle GENÈSE TRIO? Thanks
Adorama is planning on selling these. They sell the lower line Bro3 now.
Unfortunately they can't get this line. They can only get the other series. Bro3 is definitely coming
i'm more interested in those emotiva monoblocks
I'm sure a review is coming
Who wins on bass from the triangles compared to the buchardts s400 and s300 ?
You should try amping them with Lavardin to hear something unbelievable
Yuh. Sorry i hate dealing with dealer! I dont wanna talk to anyone just to buy it. Just send me a amazon link 🤣
Hearing Zeos say _"upper midrange"_ is like 😳
Boy are triangles' sales going up after this video.
I may be wrong but my general impression is those speakers could benefit from a warmer sounding amplifier. I like Emotiva gear but it is a tad bit cool from my experience.
Cool is usually accurate. But yeah I can see adding some funk to these for even mORe smoothness
I agree about the grills,they look way better without. Love the piano glass finish.Im not really an audiophile, I make a modest income, but I love music and still use my 30 year old Harman Kardon integrated amp and Bose speakers (I know you're laughing inside, me too,lol)but I like to keep up on and watch equipment like this.I saw Rage and Pantera back in the 90's.As the lyrics for Guerrilla Radio say,turn that shit up.Check out Pantera's version of Planet Caravan, its amazing.Using a speaker stand & wine glass for your milk is a nice touch,try mixing chocolate and strawberry,its unusually good.Have a good Memorial Day weekend 🤘
BTW,I draw portraits on the side,if you ever want a sick ass Anime done,hit me up.Examples of my work are on my channel
I am Billy Connolly level "shocked and stunned".
But do they work on a desk..?
I guess you've only got the duetto's left for bookshelves. At least you wont have to pay for the stands...
Can confirm Magellan Duettos are awesome. I went for the Magellan Duettos (Their top of the line standmount) and bought a demo-pair for half the list price 2800 USD. This was already over my intended budget but I could not resist. It's a significant price to pay but if you are considering speakers in this price range, and you can demo a pair of Duettos, then have a listen at least. I lucked out and also got a hold of a used Magellan Voce center speaker for 1400USD. Still a shitload of money and I feel a bit nuts for doing it but yeah... The sound is pretty great. If you are into Klipsch standmounts but want some more mid range clarity, or just a different look, then Triangle could be up your alley.
You've got to check out the M3 Sapphire speakers man. They are wicked and unique design.
did you try hiphop music on them? if so, how did it sound?
When will you review some open baffle speakers?
This brand reminds me of KEF, they have "cheap" stuff, but they also get ridiculous :O
Isn't the same with almost all brands?
Your Ohms Walsh are sitting sadly in the corner. Are you giving them up for the Triangles?
These compared to the Klipsch Heresy IV?
More intimate. These play to you, the Heresy play to the whole room.
@@ZReviews Makes sense. Thanks man.
Would you be willing to review a pair of Dali speakers
Zeos, now that you are in audiophile land, you should try some lower end audioquest speaker wire. Type 4, ~$110 for a ten foot pair. really. listen with the Triangles for about a week. listen for nicely delineated bass and interesting imaging. it's easy to dis things you haven'r tried.
...hifitommy
Really awesome.
Next on Zeo's Platinum Reviews, Tekton Moab
Zeos reminds me of Anthony Bourdain
A great man that went away too soon. Or just the right time. Imagine him on house arrest.
Quick..don't think.. Triangle Cometes ez.. or S400? Oh yeah..the face reveal.. so this whole time it was stifler reviewing audio!
Sounds like my Von Schweikert VR-4 Generation 2s.
The only speakers that don't benefit from a subwoofer are ones that already have a (servo-controlled) subwoofer built in.
Get well Bacca!
They look weird. That's how you know they're audiophile speakers right off the bat.
Nope - Audiophile can look VERY standard.
@@BastianUllr But you get brownie points for looking extremely weird.
@@CaveyMoth B&W flagship belongs in Aquaman's house.
And here I was getting buyers remorse over spending like $350 on edifiers orz
I just got the Edifier R1280T's recently, that's about as high end as my budget allows. I can't even imagine what something like these Triangles sound like.
@@Brunnen_Gee Dont imagine because they will only sound about 15% better anyway. Diminishing returns are in play highly once you go past $2000 mark. It just becomes about looks and build and overpriced stupid exotic materials that do nothing for sound quality.
Jordonater1992 there’s probably still a big jump from a 1280t to something bigger though, not sure how I’d ever justify something like these triangles over the bigger swans and edifiers or any passive between $400 and $1000 unless I pooped money though...
@@Jordonater it's about all the speaker I can use anyway, living in an apartment I can't exactly (won't) crank the volume. They're mostly for light music listening, RUclips, and Netflix when I feel like it. Most of the time I'm in headphones.
UPPER MIDRANGE!
I think you need to take out your JBL 590's put them in that room tilt them in an extreme Chris-Cross pattern like shown on new record day's video. If you sit 8 -9 feet away, I think you'll forget all about these little toy speakers!😉😉🤔🤔😬🤪🤯 The semi- extreme toe in using a directional wave guide type speaker really works fantastic. Wish I would have done months ago.!🤔🙄🙄🤯🤯 Huge center sound stage where before with mild toe- in there was very little!🤓🤓 The compression drivers were aliitle harsh before semi- extreme toe in. I never thought it would make that big of a difference!
Any Revel Speaker in the price range of these high end brand speakers will sound far better because they are backed by blind listening test research by harman and they know how to make a wave guide that fills a room better then any other design meaning the sound stage and in room response is almost without fault. You should try to get a pair of the concerta range.
@@Mrch33ky Interesting thanks for telling me that i guess Triangle arent just a snobby audio brand that are all looks and no performance.
Glad Chewbacca is doing better
You know it's an expensive product when the link to buy it doesn't take you to Amazon.
is Genelec's imaging better than your Ohm's?
Try audiovector r1 arrete standmount speakers. They are incredible
That pillow thing is so true, why do we do this lol?
How can you skip past RATM? Heresy.....
Cocorico !!! Vive la France ! ;))))
How do these compare to the Comete EZ?
How are these different than the Genese?
how does the low end compare to the comète EZ?
they look better with the covers...
hahaha :D,,,, I love your videos really, thx for making my shit day better
Piccolo's Theme - "A Little Help From a Friend" - from the Bruce Faulconer DBZ score is my favorite of all score tracks.
Hey Z! Just wondering, I’m looking for a great balanced DAC with switchable fixed outs and variable outs. I was looking at the SMSL VMV D1 but wanted ur opinion. Do u still recommend this or something different? My setup is currently an oppo ha-2se to a Schitt sys pre amp to 2 crown 1502 amps mono blocked to a pair of LS50’s in near-field. Also have the thx aaa 789 connected to the oppo too.
I mean the ifi Zen Dac has a switchable out. But I think your budget is higher. The Topping D90 also works for a bit less.
Z Reviews yes I’m looking for a very good quality DAC around the $800 to $1500 range. A remote control would be nice too but not completely necessary.
Z Reviews topping D90 looks great! Thx for the advice!
@@hugenbergerdesigns The D90 is one of the best DACs in the world right now so id go with that for sure.
Someone send Zeos some KEF Reference 1s pls. Only super high end speaker I've ever heard that can do your pop and audiophile recordings equally well. Smoother than the R3 whilst still extracting the detail...and dat bass
Don't ask me how but somehow I got a sample set of m3a speakers that I think they passed around the office. During covid 19 they had a shortage so that's all they had and they came dented and dinged and I had to replace one of the fuses for the left speaker. But all in all they sound fantastic and I got them for free I've herd a few sound clips from these and mmmmmmm.. I really want them hah I would probably sell my m3a as much as I love them and their versatility with ease of use. What amps would you pair these triangles with ??
They are so good it almost doesn't matter. But I'd spend on something quality. See if Class A is affordable .
Tbh when you did a review of the Klipsch forte 3 I was sold because of the glowing review but then you bought the heresy iv vs purchasing the fortes and it made me wonder haha what the difference was that sold you on the heresy's more and money now more than ever doesn't seem to objectify your purchases as much as quality
are you sure that everything is the speaker? I ask that because you cleared A LOT of stuff out of the room, and you always had most bookshelf speakers on stands and then on top of those white boxes or whatever they were. it was like most speaker are at 50" off the floor whereas these are on the "perfect stand height". not to mention you are sitting in the stand alone chair vs the couch on most reviews.
love your channel. 1st i heard about the cat. thanks for saying something because my comment WAS going to be, where's the cat?
I move speakers areund quite a bit when I am testing. If you check the Wire Build Movie you can see these were in the normal speaker spot for a while. They moved here because this is where they sounded best. Most speakers sound fine anywhere but these demanded my attention.
Why is "Sound demo" private video now ? I could open it without problem yesterday...
Things go private when I schedule them.
Similar price, Triangle sig vs buchardt a500??