remember roy oswalt? he's also 5'11 and he squats down real low like trevor bauer. Yordano basically stands straight up. time lincecum's mechanics fell apart late in his career because his delivery was so complicated, yordano's was simplest.
As a former pro pitcher I can say that all arm potential can be based off long toss, if you can’t full out effort with a crow hop throw a baseball 340ft on a fly at 45 degree angle their is absolutely no chance of you throwing 95 mph! It goes against physics! However to your point, I have seen numerous outfielders who could throw a baseball between 360-400ft but they can’t throw harder then 86mph from the mound. With solid mechanics like these being shown you can harness that overall power and arm strength to the mound! I do agree with some of this work most pitchers can add 2-3 mph consistently. Nice work.. When I played they did not focus much on hip flexors and more power and flexibility in hips.
Long toss kills your ucl and shoulder, it’s the most overrated throwing drill on the planet, I tried long tossing for about 3 months straight almost everyday as a freshman and literally the only thing I gained was elbow pain, there’s a program called TopVelocity that teaches mechanics speed improvement and overall athletic ability, I gained upwards of 8 mph and much less elbow pain
@@aabahdjfisosososos yeah you’re probably flying out, also called obtuse angle. That or pronation bang (arm slamming against your body to stop instead of using your decel muscles in your shoulders, chest and back.
I was always intrigued to see if someone from a wrestling background can pick up pitching easy. You’re typically looking at guys with a really long reach and amazing body control
"Pimping that follow through " is a great cue. After teaching my 13u that, his velo picked up and it seemed like a lightbulb went off as another piece of the puzzle fit in. He always gets a laugh when I say it also.
His mechanics seem pretty counter to what is taught by a lot of pitching coaches. I imagine Trevor Bauer would not like these mechanics at all. Very little to no drift, It actually looks like he doesn't create much drop, not a lot of hip to should separation, his hips are late because of counter rotation but no doubt he has an amazing arm and incredible range of motion. His block is extreme causing the recoil. It's incredible to see so many different mechanics work for elite pitchers.
remember roy oswalt? also 5'11 and he sits down real low like bauer. or billy wagner even earlier, only 5'9 and could throw 100. had a solid dip lunge. or even tim hudson for that matter, 5'11 and dropped down low. yordano stood straight up.
This is the exact reason why some people have no idea what they are talking about. Do you understand how hip anatomy works? Everyone’s is different, all over the globe. Yordano has hip mobility limitations but it’s very clear that these actually worked in his favor. It’s most likely the reason why his arm was so quick. His hips didn’t have a long way to go from closed during drive, to open into landing. Having more or less internal or external rotation doesn’t always mean bad. It just means you will either be in IR dominant or ER dominant positions at different points in your delivery
there are more triple digit and high 90's pitchers today than in any other time in MLB history. It is no wonder why the increase in KO's. there is nothing batters can do to give themselves more time to see the ball...
This beautiful game, like most sports in history over time, will evolve for the better. Hitters will have to evolve and understand how to read pitches faster to thrive. There's a reason why you take a pitcher from now like Jacob DeGrom and place him in an earlier era he will thrive and be looked at as something otherworldly. It's all for the better, and is inevitable.
@@ytvel4273 agree in full except that deGrom has had plenty of stretches where he looks otherworldly against current players too. We would all be assuming he was cheating 70-80 years ago. But then again satchel Paige was said to pitch like that too back then in his prime. “The Greatest Hitter Ever” Ted Williams even said he was by far the nastiest pitcher he ever faced.
Hitters are paid to hit the ball out of the ballpark so strikeouts are much more acceptable. The approach of the hitter is much different. Yes, pitchers play a part in that
It’s too bad what happened to him. Looking at his mechanics, I noticed that he does have a bit of an inverted W. Obviously he moves very well and more likely he has 40 plus inch vertical leap and can probably run a 60 yard dash in under 6.5 sec. So he creates a ton of force but on the injury side, what do you think he could have done to prevent injury from a mechanical standpoint/ volume/ recovery standpoint? Thank you!
*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
Obviously it is very different for me cause during this time I was like 85-86 tops, but I had a pretty bad inverted W, but I have great shoulder mobility and I’m hyper mobile in a lot of my upper body. I think because of that I never experienced any pain or injuries. And in his case where he’s more mobile, more athletic, and stronger than me. Having an inverted W like that I don’t think had any effect on him.
Hola yo soy de las Terrenas Samaná de dónde era yordano Ventura y jugué con el antes de el ser grandes ligas y en las 60 yardas hacia 5.5 y cuando estaba cansado 6.6
in both your legs are rotating your trunk which rotates your arm. batspeed or arm speed both come from how fast your lower body is rotating your upper body. I feel it's easier to do this with hitting though. shifting your weight properly in pitching is hard, it doesn't naturally happen like with hitting.
It depends on stride length I think. Longer stride = more drag Shorter stride = less drag The reason this is the case is because every pitcher pretty much in MLB and probably as well as the minor leagues release the ball 8-12 inches out front of your lead leg. Long strides require you to drag your foot to get that far out front. Short strides on the other hand can get away with not dragging, though it’s rare for it to be from efficient mechanics. At least from what I have seen.
@@gregwilson5571 he was the one driving the boat while he was hammered drunk and high.. he killed others on the boat. The marlins refused to put up a statue of him they planned on because of it.
He's a human slingshot or a catapult. Definetly plenty of fast twitch fibers in his torso and forearm. The end of his wind up after release is total recoil. Must've had long fingers also... ala Pedro Martínez.
*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
Ventura threw hard from his arm whip with good shoulder hip separation, his mechanics were decent. Inverted W throwing motion, a lot of stress on the elbow. Pitching guys over use phrases like scap load and T spine , keep it simple. That finish is awful, you need to let your arm decelerate naturally and not let it whip back. That is bad for your arm. Your energy needs to release to the catcher. Think in terms of slamming on your car brakes. What happens? Everything slams forward.
My favorite undersized pitcher tortured my soul! Oh Pedro you played for the wrong team your whole career! Mr. Martinez, how you should have went to the dark side and played for my Yankees! He was 5’9, threw gas and had nasty off speed everything!
Pitchers are nasty nasty right now. I get it. But I have to believe the league batting average would go up at least 10 points if guys would just hit what the pitchers give them. Quit trying to pull an up and away fastball over the fence. Slap that shit oppo, take your fuckin single and then hope he throws you a mistake next at bat. Blows my mind they had to add a rule because guys couldn’t figure this out. But like Donaldson said they don’t pay you to hit grounders. Mind you I couldn’t hit that stuff either way but I’m an old man who was significantly less talented than these guys even when I was young. George Brett finally talked Moustakas into going the other way before the 2015 season. He worked on it all offseason and hit .284 that year. Then slowly settled back into his old ways.
*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
Ben you frustrate nyman 24/7 and this is why. You don’t throw from the pec you throw from scap retraction. We had a 2 hour talk and we are gonna talk again on zoom and it will be for 3 hours if we can. If you pull with your pec you are taking your shoulder out of the socket. If you use your scaps then that pulls the rubber band in our upper half and takes away the stress on our shoulder. With the pec we are stretching tissues and tendons in the shoulder with stress and you can’t get efficient arm rotation with the pec stretch. With scap retraction there’s more room for your arm to rotate around the humerus. There isn’t room with the pec stretch. Does that make sense to you? This came from Nyman!!!! Bleek said the samething and he’s the new Paul Nyman
*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
@@NEKOUFar *Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
Classy comment bro. He was a fiery competitor, yes. He backed up his teammates who were getting hit more than any other team in the league, yes. He made a mistake I made plenty of times when I was young and stupid and unfortunately it cost him his life. But fuck it. Ken Gaska wants to beat down a great kid from behind a screen so he can feel better about himself. That oughta teach him!
@@gregwilson5571 nah he's scum. Putting people in danger for no reason. I'm old school but you don't need to throw at heads like that especially when you're throwing that hard. Garbage.
The stride or “leg strength” is overrated change my mind. Your momentum stops when you land so it doesn’t provide much power in the throw. Thats why you can run n gun/ crow hop/ whatever tf and still only get maybe an extra 5 mph (also probably because you’re throwing your body forward after landing but idk)The stride is only useful for getting closer to homeplate. I said what i said.
I think because it's correlated to how fast you were lunging sidways. If you're explosively moving sideways (like tim lincecum) you're probably going to land farther down. Look at justin verlander when he was young compared to now. He basically just stands straight up with little to no stride, he only gets away with that cuz he's 6'5 or whatever. A little guy you're going to have to really get a lot from your legs.
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RIP, based my whole motion off of ventura. Was devastated that he passed so young, we missed out on a generational talent for real
RIP kid you was truly a great one. Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 will forever remember you.
1 of my all time favorites
RIP, one of the most electrifying pitchers ever, even if he had a beef with Manny.
Amazing how Ventura could reach such high velocities with no drift and a pretty steep uphill delivery.
remember roy oswalt? he's also 5'11 and he squats down real low like trevor bauer. Yordano basically stands straight up. time lincecum's mechanics fell apart late in his career because his delivery was so complicated, yordano's was simplest.
As a former pro pitcher I can say that all arm potential can be based off long toss, if you can’t full out effort with a crow hop throw a baseball 340ft on a fly at 45 degree angle their is absolutely no chance of you throwing 95 mph! It goes against physics! However to your point, I have seen numerous outfielders who could throw a baseball between 360-400ft but they can’t throw harder then 86mph from the mound. With solid mechanics like these being shown you can harness that overall power and arm strength to the mound! I do agree with some of this work most pitchers can add 2-3 mph consistently. Nice work..
When I played they did not focus much on hip flexors and more power and flexibility in hips.
Every time I try to king toss I get odd bicep pain
@@aabahdjfisosososos your mechanics are probably off.
Dave Steib was such a convert.
Long toss kills your ucl and shoulder, it’s the most overrated throwing drill on the planet, I tried long tossing for about 3 months straight almost everyday as a freshman and literally the only thing I gained was elbow pain, there’s a program called TopVelocity that teaches mechanics speed improvement and overall athletic ability, I gained upwards of 8 mph and much less elbow pain
@@aabahdjfisosososos yeah you’re probably flying out, also called obtuse angle. That or pronation bang (arm slamming against your body to stop instead of using your decel muscles in your shoulders, chest and back.
I was always intrigued to see if someone from a wrestling background can pick up pitching easy. You’re typically looking at guys with a really long reach and amazing body control
I love the way you explain it all. You really know your stuff
"Pimping that follow through " is a great cue. After teaching my 13u that, his velo picked up and it seemed like a lightbulb went off as another piece of the puzzle fit in. He always gets a laugh when I say it also.
His mechanics seem pretty counter to what is taught by a lot of pitching coaches. I imagine Trevor Bauer would not like these mechanics at all. Very little to no drift, It actually looks like he doesn't create much drop, not a lot of hip to should separation, his hips are late because of counter rotation but no doubt he has an amazing arm and incredible range of motion. His block is extreme causing the recoil. It's incredible to see so many different mechanics work for elite pitchers.
remember roy oswalt? also 5'11 and he sits down real low like bauer. or billy wagner even earlier, only 5'9 and could throw 100. had a solid dip lunge. or even tim hudson for that matter, 5'11 and dropped down low. yordano stood straight up.
This is the exact reason why some people have no idea what they are talking about. Do you understand how hip anatomy works? Everyone’s is different, all over the globe. Yordano has hip mobility limitations but it’s very clear that these actually worked in his favor. It’s most likely the reason why his arm was so quick. His hips didn’t have a long way to go from closed during drive, to open into landing. Having more or less internal or external rotation doesn’t always mean bad. It just means you will either be in IR dominant or ER dominant positions at different points in your delivery
The 2000s yankees rotation had mussina and pettitte around, two seesaw legends
there are more triple digit and high 90's pitchers today than in any other time in MLB history. It is no wonder why the increase in KO's. there is nothing batters can do to give themselves more time to see the ball...
Plus these nasty cutters and slider.
This beautiful game, like most sports in history over time, will evolve for the better. Hitters will have to evolve and understand how to read pitches faster to thrive. There's a reason why you take a pitcher from now like Jacob DeGrom and place him in an earlier era he will thrive and be looked at as something otherworldly. It's all for the better, and is inevitable.
@@ytvel4273 agree in full except that deGrom has had plenty of stretches where he looks otherworldly against current players too. We would all be assuming he was cheating 70-80 years ago. But then again satchel Paige was said to pitch like that too back then in his prime. “The Greatest Hitter Ever” Ted Williams even said he was by far the nastiest pitcher he ever faced.
KO? Wrong sport, buddy. You meant Ks (no apostrophe, take an English class).
Hitters are paid to hit the ball out of the ballpark so strikeouts are much more acceptable. The approach of the hitter is much different. Yes, pitchers play a part in that
Whoa this is gonna be a banger
Yes...wingspan AND finger length also has some say in there.
This really helps me I am a 13 year old throwing 76
It’s too bad what happened to him. Looking at his mechanics, I noticed that he does have a bit of an inverted W. Obviously he moves very well and more likely he has 40 plus inch vertical leap and can probably run a 60 yard dash in under 6.5 sec. So he creates a ton of force but on the injury side, what do you think he could have done to prevent injury from a mechanical standpoint/ volume/ recovery standpoint? Thank you!
*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
Obviously it is very different for me cause during this time I was like 85-86 tops, but I had a pretty bad inverted W, but I have great shoulder mobility and I’m hyper mobile in a lot of my upper body. I think because of that I never experienced any pain or injuries. And in his case where he’s more mobile, more athletic, and stronger than me. Having an inverted W like that I don’t think had any effect on him.
Hola yo soy de las Terrenas Samaná de dónde era yordano Ventura y jugué con el antes de el ser grandes ligas y en las 60 yardas hacia 5.5 y cuando estaba cansado 6.6
Thanks for breakdown tread!
It’s fascinating how similar pitching & hitting are with anchor, stretch & slack, etc
The 2 point stance is why
in both your legs are rotating your trunk which rotates your arm. batspeed or arm speed both come from how fast your lower body is rotating your upper body. I feel it's easier to do this with hitting though. shifting your weight properly in pitching is hard, it doesn't naturally happen like with hitting.
I could always throw hard (position player). I'm 5'10' but have a 6'2" wing span. I never thought that that was a factor.
It is amazing that a person can throw 100 mph ball
Nice analysis Mr. Brewster.
Why do some pitchers back leg drag, and others don’t? Is there a science behind it?
It depends on stride length I think. Longer stride = more drag
Shorter stride = less drag
The reason this is the case is because every pitcher pretty much in MLB and probably as well as the minor leagues release the ball 8-12 inches out front of your lead leg. Long strides require you to drag your foot to get that far out front. Short strides on the other hand can get away with not dragging, though it’s rare for it to be from efficient mechanics. At least from what I have seen.
Can you please break down José Fernández's abnormal pitching in a future video good sir?
how about Jose Fernandez next
I think Roy Holliday is next
Fernandez had bad mechanics which created arm and back issues
*Fernandez was a murderer. Let’s not highlight him.* 👎👎👎
@@strongestnattyever-videos2247 he turned out to be a coke head but I don’t recall hearing about him murdering anyone. When did that happen?
@@gregwilson5571 he was the one driving the boat while he was hammered drunk and high.. he killed others on the boat. The marlins refused to put up a statue of him they planned on because of it.
RIP 💙
could you possibly do joe kelly next?
elite sequencing and timed intent
Excellent As always. / sideways! spring back hip. And stop pelvis to rotate torso. Just aussum. Never thuraly taught.
“aussum”
Fue un excelente pincher Dominicano que corrió con malas suerte
He's a human slingshot or a catapult. Definetly plenty of fast twitch fibers in his torso and forearm. The end of his wind up after release is total recoil. Must've had long fingers also... ala Pedro Martínez.
His strength is in his abs, just that
What is an inverted W?
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*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
break down jordan hicks and ryan helsley
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The drift time stamp is off
Dang
Ventura threw hard from his arm whip with good shoulder hip separation, his mechanics were decent. Inverted W throwing motion, a lot of stress on the elbow. Pitching guys over use phrases like scap load and T spine , keep it simple. That finish is awful, you need to let your arm decelerate naturally and not let it whip back. That is bad for your arm. Your energy needs to release to the catcher. Think in terms of slamming on your car brakes. What happens? Everything slams forward.
and u would know all this how? he made it to the pros and helped win a world series. wtf have u done lmao
I’m sure you threw 103 back ur day huh
Excelent
My favorite undersized pitcher tortured my soul! Oh Pedro you played for the wrong team your whole career! Mr. Martinez, how you should have went to the dark side and played for my Yankees! He was 5’9, threw gas and had nasty off speed everything!
I was Only ever able to throw 83-85 mph - I’m 5ft 10
It doesn't matter. I had a shorty friend with 97-98 mph fast ball if you have the correct mentality and excercising you could rise around 90 st
3 digits everywhere plus these nasty cutters and slider, Is almost impossible to hit over 270.
Pitchers are nasty nasty right now. I get it. But I have to believe the league batting average would go up at least 10 points if guys would just hit what the pitchers give them. Quit trying to pull an up and away fastball over the fence. Slap that shit oppo, take your fuckin single and then hope he throws you a mistake next at bat. Blows my mind they had to add a rule because guys couldn’t figure this out. But like Donaldson said they don’t pay you to hit grounders. Mind you I couldn’t hit that stuff either way but I’m an old man who was significantly less talented than these guys even when I was young. George Brett finally talked Moustakas into going the other way before the 2015 season. He worked on it all offseason and hit .284 that year. Then slowly settled back into his old ways.
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*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
Ben you frustrate nyman 24/7 and this is why. You don’t throw from the pec you throw from scap retraction. We had a 2 hour talk and we are gonna talk again on zoom and it will be for 3 hours if we can. If you pull with your pec you are taking your shoulder out of the socket. If you use your scaps then that pulls the rubber band in our upper half and takes away the stress on our shoulder. With the pec we are stretching tissues and tendons in the shoulder with stress and you can’t get efficient arm rotation with the pec stretch. With scap retraction there’s more room for your arm to rotate around the humerus. There isn’t room with the pec stretch. Does that make sense to you? This came from Nyman!!!! Bleek said the samething and he’s the new Paul Nyman
The ground force, shoulder hip separation with arm whip or arm strength. Nobody is moving their scapula or chest to throw.
Man height don't have shit to do with your arm talent or throwing power
RIP...
Wow! If he was 6'11", like Randy Johnson, he'd be throwing 113 MPH.
Under sized ? They are smaller guys undersized implies his growth was stunted as if he’s 3ft4 .. using the same logic would .guy 6ft 9 be OVERSIZED 😂
height dont equal gas….. marcus stroman is 5’8 and throws 95mph
You should check out our breakdown of how he does it!
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I think he was such a piece of garbage that it somehow gave him a velo boost.
And youre such a prissy little angel that god said baseball was too rough for you huh
*Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
@@NEKOUFar *Ventura was an absolute piece of trash as a human-being. Arrogant…. Would rub it in when people were struggling, and would even threaten to hit people in the head and injure them. Absolute scum he was. Bye bye!* 👋👋👋
Classy comment bro. He was a fiery competitor, yes. He backed up his teammates who were getting hit more than any other team in the league, yes. He made a mistake I made plenty of times when I was young and stupid and unfortunately it cost him his life. But fuck it. Ken Gaska wants to beat down a great kid from behind a screen so he can feel better about himself. That oughta teach him!
@@gregwilson5571 nah he's scum. Putting people in danger for no reason. I'm old school but you don't need to throw at heads like that especially when you're throwing that hard. Garbage.
The stride or “leg strength” is overrated change my mind. Your momentum stops when you land so it doesn’t provide much power in the throw. Thats why you can run n gun/ crow hop/ whatever tf and still only get maybe an extra 5 mph (also probably because you’re throwing your body forward after landing but idk)The stride is only useful for getting closer to homeplate. I said what i said.
I think because it's correlated to how fast you were lunging sidways. If you're explosively moving sideways (like tim lincecum) you're probably going to land farther down. Look at justin verlander when he was young compared to now. He basically just stands straight up with little to no stride, he only gets away with that cuz he's 6'5 or whatever. A little guy you're going to have to really get a lot from your legs.
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