Britain's Worst Airborne Disaster: Battle of Arnhem | Animated History
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"Out of ammunition, God save the king"
You can't fit so much desperation and bravery to one sentence as they did with this one.
@Jay "Position over-run, CO captured, all officers killed or captured, ammunition gone.
Will continue with bayonet --God save the King."
It's even more epic what he says before god save the king!
same were said by 6th Army in Stalingrad
@Drakon590 I've watched simple history and I know who said this
@Drakon590 My god that's insane
@@shepherdlavellen3301 Stalin wasn't a king...or was he?
I love how brits even when their command failed them they still shouted "God save the King".
@Ursus30 There was actually another statement that was left out the actual full message was this..
"Position over-run, CO captured, all officers killed or captured, ammunition gone.
Will continue with bayonet --God save the King."
Will continue with BAYONET..what a legend.
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- before that they probably drinked their last few teabags that were left
Who was the last king of Great British Empire?
Why? The King wasn't responsible.
Sense of nationhood doesnt die when you command fails, or when you die
A big salute and thank you to the British🇬🇧 and Polish🇵🇱 soldiers who fought and died in this battle.
I guess Americans don't matter
@@chaosXP3RT ok what Americans were at this battle, also how about show respect for what this comment is actually saying.
@@chaosXP3RT Americans weren't in Arnhem
@@McDonald_Mando Show some respect for the 101st and 82nd that took part in Operation Market Garden. I'm tired of Europeans stealing credit that doesn't belong to them
@@McDonald_Mando Respect? Why?
Frost sounds like the ultimate on-field commander, staying cool even when things seem absolutely hopeless and accomplishing as much of his objective as he possibly can while keeping his troops morale high by giving the Germans no mental ground. Great vid! Keep it up!
For all you can say about British high command, British soldiers did some of their best fighting while they had their backs to the wall in both world wars.
Frost also walked across streets under fire, making sure he did not duck, to show troops he was not afraid and keep up morale
Nathan Hopkins Briton.
Stay Frost-y boys
He later saw action in Palestine in '46 and fought the Communists out in Malaya during the 1950s. I'm not sure if he was in Korea..?
When Armchair Historian releases 2 videos in 24 hours...
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Polish soldiers: help allies evacuate and fight bravely.
British: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
@George S What do you mean
Also allies: we will betray Poland in Peace conference
@@BolphesarusMaximusWardius
During the the German invasion of Poland.
But that joke is awful since Poland relied on the allies to help but the allies...
Allies: Imma pretend I didn’t see/hear that.
@@mr.penguin8699 You forgot them betraying them at the beginning of the war too
That's a generalization. Aside from a handful of key figures who stupidly used Sosabowski as a scapegoat, the British have always recognized Polish heroism in the Battle of Britain, Falaise, and Arnhem. American students, I have found, are always unaware the Poles fought at all.
Monty be like: Well I don't see how as the overall operational comander I could be responsible for this.
Monty be like: It was the Poles. My plans were perfect, but the Poles failed.
They also blamed the canadians for the fall of Hong Kong until Japanese soldiers corrected them after the war
American history 'buffs' forget that Montgomery, as overall Commander of the battle of Normandy, was responsible for THAT victory, as well as this defeat.
@@aaropajari7058 yeah yeah tell us about how swift was his capture of Caen then
@CommandoDude "Perfidious Albion", once said a man with a funny hat...
German SS panzerdivision: "We have thee zurrounded!"
British paratroopers: "We accept your surrender!"
"We haven't the facilities to accept your surrender. Sorry."
Visible confusion
@@cristianvandenbosse8989 Its from a movie about this battle, I recomend watching it because it is very informational
@@jdoriginals9223 a bridge too far ruclips.net/video/-Li65P_3lvM/видео.html
@@eldorados_lost_searcher "So I hope you´ve got at least the facilities to store all your fallen comrades for the next three days. No sorry"
'We haven't the facilities to take you all prisoner!"
oh sh*t
"We'd Like Too!, But We Can't Accept Your Surrender!, Was Their Anything Else!?" XD
The actual only Brit soldier to carry an umbrella into battle.
James Thomas British soldier.
VOT?!
9th SS Panzer Division-"Ah some rest and relaxation in quiet Arnhem after fighting some fierce battles in Normandy. Hey, what is that noise it sounds like airplanes?"
Also: -“hey Hans, look what I found in this crashed glider..”
“Whats that Mikel?”
“Looks like some top secret plans that shouldnt have been taken into theatre- Market Garden?”
What always blows my mind about this disaster was how close it came to being a successful operation despite every conceivable thing going wrong.
When we analysed it during military classes the deciding factor is the slow progress of XXX Corps.
If the RAF and USAAF had been a bit more bolder and provided more air support maybe they could’ve advanced fast enough to either relieve the Paras or force the Germans to change plans.
To be honest though the allies didn’t loose market garden it was more of a German victory. (Hope that metaphor isn’t confusing)
Successful German ruses and deception mixed with good tactics and defence stopped the allies in their tracks.
@@Crazytechnition It would have helped if the US 82nd Airboune Division had took the Nijmegen bridge immediately instead of waiting for the Guards Armoured Division to arrive to reinforce, which delayed the advance of XXX Corps.
At least it ended with the liberation of the Netherlands.
What was it again, 100km captured after Market Garden?
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- It would have help if the British wasn't so intent on trying to hog the glory on the Western Front.
Falaise gap, the British refused to allow the Americans to send forces to help complete the encirclement when the British forces were struggling to move south. It was only when it was too late that the British relent.
The Americans favored an wide push throughout the Western Front, which worked against the Germans who couldn't afford to supply and reinforce every front. But no, the British needed to be ones who best Germany and try to fight in a single narrow front. Guess what, it didn't work because Germany was able to focus on that one front. You think the British would have learn at Caen.
@@Normacly Eisenhowers broad front strategy, wasting time and men in the Hurtgen, Lorraine, Alsace, Vosges etc got nowhere and prolonged the war by half a year. Should have instead gone with Montgomerys 40 division strong concentrated northern Germany thrust.
Blaming gen. Sosabowski by Montgomery was one of the most disgraceful acts of IIWW. It was caused mainly by the fact the Polish general was criticizing Monty's plan from the very beginning, assessing it - accurately - as suicidal. This is well depicted in a classic movie, "One bridge too far", where gen. Sosabowski was played by Gene Hackman. The Poles were basically dropped at the heads of the enemy and decimated. Sosabowski stayed in England after the war to avoid death from the communists hands and worked till his death as a... factory worker. Monty blamed him even though just weeks earlier he praised him. For me it's one of the saddest stories of IIWW.
No kidding. The more I learn about Mont the more despicable of a character I realize he was. A real dirtbag who cared more about his ego then his men. He also failed just about every promise he ever made so he wasn't even a man of his word in the slightest.
I didn't know he blamed Sosabowski for his incompetence. Def a slime ball.
That's just typical of Britain. You should never trust those lying scumbags.
@@williamwallace863 Where have you been reading about him? What you're saying is completely untrue and upsets me a little to think that you actually think that
In Driel (NL, near Arnhem), there is a memorial for the Polish army and a seperate plaque for Sosabowksi that was raised by the British veterans of Arnhem "to record their enduring admiration for an inspiring commander, a fearless fighter for freedom and Polish hero". So even they didn't agree with Montgomery and appreciated the efforts of the Polish in the operation there.
The poles were not consulted in anything and helped no one. They sat eating and laughing on the wrong side of the river. And why would anyone listen to a pole on tactics or battle plans, they did not even defend their own country but ran away
Despite this defeat there can be no doubt that the Para's mounted an excellent defence and fought like they were holding the Alamo. They even won the respect of the German commander....who stated
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard."
Wilhelm Bittrich Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem (September 1944). Quoted in "Hitler's Generals" - Page 327 - by Correlli Barnett - History - 2003
No one could blame the soldiers on the ground, it’s the brass with the bad planning
@@FrostySire They were British paras. Best of the best. But the whole operation was a doom from the planning.
@@FrostySire
Brereton and Williams of the USAAF were the planners.
@@johnburns4017 What??? Tosh
@@jimwalsh8520
Again.....
*_Brereton and Williams of the USAAF were the planners._*
"I took 10,000 men into Arnhem. I've come out with less than two. I don't feel much like sleeping." -Maj. General Roy Urqhart, A Bridge Too Far. Best quote from the movie to sum up this disaster
bro the artist are enslaved rn drawing so quickly
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And writers
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Agree poor writers
They just hired more artists recently, thats why uploads are coming more often.
I always thought we tried to go a bridge too far
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@@bombedboomy1962 It's the language of the Gods (sarcasm)
Lieutenant-General Browning.
If it was not for the 101st Airborne it would have succeed, see TIK's video.
“Along Highway 69”
Me: Haha yes highway to hell indeed
*Highway to Hell song intensifies*
3:21
Nice
ON THE HIGHWAY TO HELL
@@chh066 nice
Funny number
“We haven’t the proper facilities to take you all prisoner! Sorry!”
“What!?”
“We’d like to, but we can’t accept your surrender!”
“Tell them to go to hell”
“What now”
“Flatten Arnhem”
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Watch the dogfighting scenes from Dunkirk
Brits: underestimate the German positions in Netherlands
Germans: it's payback for Normandy...
It wasn’t an underestimation. Allied commanders ignored intelligence about German forces. Furthermore, the Germans attempts to deceive and ruse the allies worked.
The allies weren’t guilty of underestimation but rather overestimation of their own abilities.
And as if this operation isn't bad enough. The Allied would continue to be haunted by the fortified city, dubbed "festung" by the German, for the rest of the war in Netherland.
@@johncarter4956 but that’s understandable since Monte Cassino, Caen, Stalingrad and many more had proven that the Germans could defend a city well and drain the allies of precious time and resources.
The allied Castries in market garden were very low compared to the German casualties in Normandy but nice try wehrboo
Britons.
I am an American of Polish 🇵🇱, Dutch and English origins and I have been to Arnhem and boy it hit me when I saw the fallen soldiers grave stones of their fellow countries.
Although Arnhem was badly damaged it is nicely rebuilt these days. Great video!
Hey History Hustle, I love your videos as well. I'm wondering, would you consider doing a movie review of 'A Bridge Too Far'?
Love ur channel man keep it up
No it's not, it's an ugly mishmash of building styles. like a little Cologne
It's not a nice city tho
@@kj_heichou
Still nicer than the city under the maas
My grandfather was at Arnhem in 1 para,1st parachute brigade,1st airborne Division I am so proud of him🇬🇧
"Bloop!"
-PIAT, probably
Very, very well done! This disaster was a classic Monty screw up, down to pinning it on the Polish Colonel, who did his job correctly and courageously. Those British paratroopers who fought to the bitter end were real heroes. Again, great job telling their story. Please keep the outstanding videos coming and God bless you, my friend!
He was a general, not a colonel. Brigadier General Sosabowski.
my great grandfather died during this battle he was the only RSM (regimental sargent major) to die at ahrnem. his name was Albert 'Bish' Pope. If you google his name there is an obituary
Just seeing how much the British payed for Dutch independence and freedom and how brave these soldiers were. God bless Britain, love from the Netherlands 🇳🇱❤️🇬🇧
We love you guys here love from England :))
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And I love you too windmill-fucker.
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"Just making sure whose side you're on.," General Sosabowski to a RAF briefing officer after seeing their drop zones would be nearly eight miles from the bridge. (A Bridge Too Far)
The man responsible for the air plan that was responsible for the overall failure of Market Garden was an American, Major General Paul Williams. However it wasn't a case of not wanting to lose aircraft as in theory he had plenty, but he didn't have enough ground crews to service the aircraft to carry out two lifts a day. Market Garden failed due to inadequate logistics in Britain.
@@deanstuart8012 Logistics were AWFUL at times on the Allied side. Both the American and British armies suffered because of it.
@@deanstuart8012 Nah, Montgomery ignored the Dutch intel that a german panzer division had reinforced arnhem (they came back from the Eastern Front to rest there), he even send a intelligence officer on medical leave because he wouldn't shut up about it. There were a lot of other flaws in the plan, but that one is the one that has led to the Dutch remebering Montgomery as the one that screwed up Market Garden.
@@janvisser4132 9th and 10th SS Panzer Divisions had a grand total of five tanks between them on September 17. Five. And their infantry was about one-sixth strength. The REAL failure in Market was the ineffectiveness of the allied air forces in isolating the battlefield and preventing massive German reinforcements from reaching the Arnhem area. Almost immediately, the Germans initiated the "blitztransport" system to rush replacements to the battle front from all over Germany and Denmark. Blitztransport was a priority train system whereby, once a train got moving to the front, it would never stop. Other trains had to get out of the way, and replacement locomotives were on standby with steam up to take over a train if necessary. The allies did nothing to interfere with this. If the battlefield had been isolated the way it was during the Normandy landings, the operation would have had a much better chance of succeeding. By not interfering with German reinforcements, the plan had no chance at all.
He and Urquhart were the ONLY realists in the room.
In 1978, I discovered Cornelius Ryan’s book, “A Bridge Too Far” in my high school library and have been fascinated with WW2 history ever since.
Y’all did a great job on this video. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Unfortunately his book wasn't accurate
@@andym9571 Well- when you’re 14 years old, in the pre-internet era, you got to start somewhere.
Vivat Pinochet
I read that one German soldier wrote in his diary that the British paratroopers fought so fiercely and were so stubborn to give in that the fighting in Arnhem reminded him of the Battle of Stalingrad.
@Fraser Bathgate Correct mate, I remember reading in a book about the battle (A Bridge Too far?) A German veteran saying the fighting was as intense Stalingrad and have read historians describe it as amongst the most intense of the war alongside Stalingrad, Iwo Jima and Kohima-Imphal.
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- probably was that same veteran that I mentioned. Don't remember his name sadly. It was definitely one of the most intense and one of the most intense encountered by the Western Allies in Europe (although I would personally argue Monte Cassino and the Italian Campaign as a whole was the most intense campaign for the Western Allies in Europe and second most intense overall in Europe after the Eastern Front.)
My father joined the British Army in India and fought in North Africa as a radio operator in the RA (he was angloindian). He volunteered for the Paratroops and trained in England (the camp was in Kibworth in Leicestershire where he met my mother). He was one of the men who swam the Rhine to get back. On his return he was returned to the RA. He was a good man but suffered what we now know as PTSD. This was one of the most ill concieved operations of the war.
Playing the arnhem map on post scriptum is really like the real thing
Yeah....riiiight
Playing Driel, Oosterbeek and Heelsum does feel quite a lot like it, most Chapter 1 maps were made almost building to building. Shame the game isn't as good as it used to be
Well now I see I'm not the only one that thought of PS :D
@@sheslikeheroin93 it’s pretty good. More than you assume it to be.
@@huisbaasbob9844 I emediatly started playing PS after this video lmao
Ah one of the most ambitious, STUPID plans ever made in ww2.Remember , "No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy", and they thought of a 1000 moving parts plan and just hoped it would all go 100% according to plan...And those brave brave soldiers still fought hard for it.So we could have Monty blame the Poles, and after the war joke about the deaths of his men...
@CommandoDude The Hurtgen forest massacre was pretty bad.
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Ok, time for me to read a lot about that one then ;)
I wouldn't say its so much a bad plan as it was unrealistic, even if everything went perfectly such as the Wilhelmina Canal at Son wasn't destroyed before the 82nd could capture it, I realistically feel like the 30th corp could not honestly advance fast enough as to cross over into Arnhem before the 1st Airborne Division is forced to surrender since you can't realistically avoid the issue of Highway 69 being the best example of a killing field since its a single lane road and is elevated above the ground, making it easy prey for an AT emplacement or Anti-tank squads hidden along the road and even if they did reach Arnhem, could they honestly hold against the two SS Panzer divisions currently occupying the city after all the losses they took advancing up Highway 69?
My grandfather fought and was captured in Arnhem. He never really like to talk about it. It wasn't until I was older, I could understand why...
Post Scriptum players:
"Hey I know that house! Thats where I quick scoped Hanz and ez gg knife killed Franz!
Bloody good sir
My great grandfather was here as a german combat medic. He never liked talking about it. All he mentioned was about them loading the british bodies onto the trucks after the battle for burial. So sad.
Good Job for uploading 2 videos in 24 hours. That’s awesome, keep up the great work
Watched this movie on Netflix amazing how these men held out even when all of command failed them.
One of my favorite quotes from band of brothers is "Were Paratroopers were supposed to be surrounded"
What's the name of it on Netflix
@@damionneil6977 A bridge too far
Armchair Historian makes two videos in airborne disasters:
Germans: Well, at least we won...
But lost to peasants...
@@iteor7320 No man is born as a soldier. The Axis fought against all global superpowers that existed at the time at once. ) - the Axis lost a war in which its members were complete underdogs.
You do injustice to all participants of this conflict with such a comment.
www.britannica.com/event/World-War-II
edition.cnn.com/2013/07/09/world/world-war-ii-fast-facts/index.html ( here a shorter, mostly American perspective from CNN
@@Arcaryon I have complete and utter respect for those members and participants of the conflict. But you must also remember that at the time the Invasion of Crete occurred, the Fallschirmjaeger were considered one of the best units in military force that had just steamrolled through all opposition... I completely accept your point that no man is born a soldier, but the mighty German war machine being held up by cretan peasants is a mighty thing and should not be underestimated. My joke was to highlight that.
@@iteor7320 Of course but the same is mostly true for any force in the world even today - the militias in Afghanistan prove as much with an impressive track record.
But I am honestly just not sure what peasants you mean as Crete was manned by 42,620 Allied soldiers including local partisans while the Wehrmacht sent 22,040 soldiers, including air support.
The initial defence and later resistance, of course, included the local population but resisting is not the same as succeeding and Crete was (after the major defeats and retreats of the Wehrmacht only partially) occupied until 12 May 1945, 3 days after the unconditional surrender of the OKW.
Like, I get the sentiment but this island was still occupied by several thousand professional Allied soldiers apart from the civilian population.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crete
Both the cretan civilian resistance along with the the anzac forces and the fighting tenacity of german paratroopers must be praised.Germans had air superiority but the allies has naval superiority
“Highway 69”
Nice.
Most of it is now called the A50 with only a small portion designated N69.
I love feeding off the knowledge you give me. The animations are so fun and great. I love seeing all of your uploads. History is my Favorite subject to learn about. I am so happy that there is a community out here that loves to learn about these things. I hope you and your team only the best.
Please remember that Montgomery was given the go ahead for this based on massive supply and logistical support which included halting Patton. Patton went behind Montgomerys and Eisenhowers back and took it anyway meaning the flanking VIII and XII corps never got their supplies, and German reinforcements went in virtually unmolested. Patton got halted at Metz anyway and as a result thousands died and the war was extended for nothing. Unpopular and wilfully forgotten fact in the United States but true nonetheless.
@Dod o Eisenhower needed to control or fire Patton, but Patton had too big a following in the US, and he dared not. Public opinion deciding operational matters!!!
@Dod o Agreed. And he sent men to die to break his son in law out of a POW camp. Worse thing though, is that the same people that blame Montgomery for Arnhem because he was the boss, are the same people who refuse to credit him with winning the Battle for Normandy despite him being the boss there too.
In the Netherlands we have a bridge in Arnhem named The John Frostbridge in honor of him and his man.
Not a bridge....the bridge!
@@florislok _The_ bridge is about 20km to the south (Waalbrug).
Don't forget Gavin of the 82nd Airborne as well folks, he also had a role to play in the failure, like being worried of hundreds of non existent tanks in the woods.
@HistoryFan476ad
Would have been good if they had took the nijmegen bridge in time instead of delaying the advance of XXX corps.
Bullshit your laggards took 3 &1/2 days to get there instead of two. Then when the 82nd crossed the Waal losing 89 KIA and 138 wounded your "LORD" Carrington stops going no further - with nothing to stop them. These pathetic remarks have been dismissed before - if you ask me nicely I'll quote the Germans, Irish Guards and GIs present. Even Horrocks called the River Crossing the most gallant act he witnessed in the whole of the war. We give GB tanks/trucks/artillery and you give us canvas boats and bullshit 80 yrs later
FFS in England if you stop you are acclaimed LORD(chicken) - if you don't show up at all like MONTY(Chicken) they tag you a Field Marshall.This is exactly what happened when IKE let your Island asylum lead the parade - MONTY GARDEN. To IKE's credit he kept propping up the crumbling crown to give Stalin a bold look of solidarity. And both Gavin and Browning noted the woods but they had NEVER focused on it nor did it tie them up.Because two Whrmacht operations had sprung from the the Woods(1940 & 1944) it would stand to reason it would be a concern
Another episode of the show “smack a pole”, presented by...basically anyone who was in ww2
NEW SUB
I used to go to 10th Parachute army cadets when I was at school in Aldershot, the home of the 1 and 2 Para!
I adored it, did a weekend training as a 16 year old at 1 Para, the assault course was the hardest thing Ive ever done in my life by far!!!!!
Every year cadets all over England could do a 25km march in Arnhem and Oosterbeek in remembrance of those that fell in the battle of Arnhem!
Ive seen the bullet damage on the bridges, so many Paras died trying to take that bridge
11:07 Sosabowski was a Major General at this time. Three stars and two lines on his shoulders and beret are the symbols of the rank of Colonel. The symbols of the Major General in the Polish Armed Forces are the "wężyk generalski" or "general's wavy line", and one star. Of course I know that is an actual photo of him being a Colonel. Just a little detail. Great video as always. :)
The quality of these videos is quite impressive. I'm actually learning history and being entertained at the same time.
An amazing story about incredibly brave men. A Bridge Too Far is my favourite film.
The Animations have evolved greatly in this channel. Congratulations, Armchair Historian. Cheers from Mexico! 🇲🇽
I'm from Poland and I bought a house here in Driel ,5 km from Arnhem where my brothers from Poland landed, I always go to the Polish monument on Sundays which is in the center of Driel in the Polish square, be brave, my hero, be brave, for our freedom and yours
REALLY digging how you overlay animations on each other (explosions, tanks, rifles firing, etc.).
Ever since I watched A Bridge To Far, I will never think of ww2 again, I used to think that the Allies in WW2 had always made the best decisions. I also remember that scene that he used in the beginning from the movie.
My grandpa told me that his farther who was a Dutch resistance member who always came close to death. He Was a Fireman for Arnhem and was right in the center of it. Here is a little back story. My grandpa’s farther used to live on the coast of the Netherlands. When the Netherlands was invaded. he had to move house’s because when Normandy was about to happen and they (Germans) thought that the Allie’s would land in the Netherlands so they Flattened the house’s along the coast him included. So he moved to Arnhem, when he realised that if you did not work for the Police, fireman, ect (I forgot what he told me) you would go work in Germany in the work force. his father knew that he must join one of those. So he join the fireman, as I told you before. And as you know after a while Arnhem was invaded in operation market garden. And he was in the center, (like I told you before) and oh boy! He had lots of works to do. Allied bombing destroyed his house so he usually sleep in the fire station. Everyday after he got rid of one fire because of Allied bombing the radio would say after he put out one “go to (this street) there is a house of fire there” So that’s it (New story appearing!) my Oma (who is just short for great grandma) she lived through WWII and was 5 when it ended say’s she saw Panzers (Panzer VI’s, Half tracks, she say’s she may of saw a tiger but she can’t remember that one) rolling through her street. She says that she lost lot’s of friends in school from allied bombing or anything else there was one part where her neighbouring village was on fire and she had her best friend in there and as you guess....ded.
I’m sorry for making you reading this.
My great grandfather was in the second battalion and new lieutenant frost very well, he lived to tell the tales until 2008 when he died of old age. RIP to all the heroes that died in arnhem…
I really enjoy the little improvements that the team has made the visual production of these videos. Keep up the great work.
I live in the southern part of the Netherlands. The families of both my parents got liberated rather early. Because Market Garden failed, the Allied advance slowed down significantly (also because the port of Antwerp couldn't immediately be used). In the western part of the Netherlands there was a strike, and the Germans countered this by stopping food transports. The main Allied advance was into Germany, to the north and to the east, not to the west. In May of 1945 the Germans still controlled large areas in the west and in the north of the Netherlands. But during the winter of 1944-1945 tens of thousands civilians died of starvation. This was called the hongerwinter - the hunger winter.
Market garden didn’t fail, as the Allies captured 2/3 bridges the battle of Arnhem was won by the Germans, although saying that market garden wasn’t necessarily a success it was a bit in the middle
The allied advance slowed because Eisenhower took over and insisted on a dispersed broad front strategy. Wasting men and resources in the Hurtgen Forest, Lorraine, Alsace, Vosges etc.
He should have accepted Montgomerys proposal of a 40 division, 4 army very strong concentrated northern thrust to the Ruhr and then beyond.
“The war will be over before christmas”
- but I never say which year
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I love how you started including the patches for the units. Adds a little bit of extra knowledge and history to the already great video.
Best History channel and the artwork is truly great. Props as always to all involved.
WW2 Allies when anything goes wrong: Blame the Poles
Part of the WW2 series: Blaming the Poles.
That is just rubbish and a complete oversimplification of Allied-Polish relations. Please stop peddling this nonsense as it only serves to make people stupider.
“We’d be home by Christmas.”
What is with military’s all ways thinking they can be home from Christmas?
Last time I was this early it was the battle of Arnhem
Ah a fellow comrade
"The 82nd Airborne Division, however, certainly does not deserve any particular criticism for this as their priorities appear to be a further product of the blind optimism that dogged Operation Market Garden, of which everyone involved was guilty. At Nijmegen, as with everywhere else, the assumption was that resistance would be light and so the main concern of the airborne units was to make the advance of the ground forces as rapid and as uncomplicated as possible, instead of devoting all their attention to primary objectives. Furthermore, it should be understood that the 82nd Airborne Division had by far the most complicated plan of any of the Airborne units involved with Market Garden, their troops being required to capture numerous objectives over a considerable expanse of terrain."
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Try telling a veteran it was a disaster, once resupply found the their position improved, they did not want to retreat but were ordered to.
Indeed. A pilot called Jimmy Edwards (famous actor in the UK) spotted the Brits and fed back this information, supply drops were then more accurate.
I just finished reading Anthony Beevor's book about Arnhem. His disgust with the British for their attempt to pin blame on the Poles is quite succinct.
Man Griffin you spitin fire lately ons video after another, Loving the big amount of content lately.
I was born and grew up withing 30 miles of Arnhem. There were a few things you didn't mention. Just before the operation started a SS Panze division was stationed near arnhem, to rest after they came back from the Eastern Front. Dutch resistance fighters warned the English high command, and british reconnaisance aircraft confirmed it, but Montgomery wouldn't listen, and even send an intelligence officer who wouldn't shut up about it on medical leave. dropping those paratroopers way to far from the bridge near a SS panzer division was an insane plan to begin with. They should have postponed it, conquerd the river Schelde in the south of the Netherlands instead, which would have allowed them to use the Port of Antwerp and shortened the supply lines massively. with more supplies and reinforcements they could have ended the war quicker.
My Grandfather was killed at Arnhem on the 19th a British tank Lieutenant age 35. I hope to visit Arnhem one day . What you said about the river Schelde and Antwerp seems a very good idea. But things would have helped if radios worked and plans did not get into enemy hands. Or the panzers got bombed in the woods a few days before. Then the operation would likely have been a fairly swift victory. Then of to Berlin long before the Soviets. The gentleman who angrily pointed out the SS Panzers hiding in the woods. Was locked up in hospital as mad but he turned out the correct sane one after all.
Nobody placed priority on Antwerp at the time. It was felt the chance was there to go for a bridgehead across the Rhine instead of stopping and getting bogged down at Antwerp and allow the Germans time to recover. Eisenhower felt the Ruhr could be attained before Antwerp was open.
Antwerp is a red herring. It was not needed for the German border battles and indeed the allies were well supplied for them. The US Hurtgen Forest and Aachen attacks did not lack supplies.
By the way, the two SS panzer divisions did not just come from the Eastern Front. They had just come from Normandy, where Montgomery had already defeated them. They were at half strength and didn't have a single available tank between them. Montgomery was right to not cancel the operation.
If the air planners done things differently, it could have suceeded.
@@SuperBigwinston Wow, I am sorry that he died, but I am very greatful for his efforts for liberating my country. We will always remember him and his fellow soldiers that gave our country our freedom back. An early breakthrough and occupation of german lands could have influenced the yalta conference. Maybe less countries would have came under soviet influence.
@@lyndoncmp5751 what would you have done different? Just curious, I don't really see much opportunity for improvement, a drop closer to arnhem was virtually impossible due to the AA installations near arnhem.
Would you consider to make an episode regarding the Battle of Hong Kong in December 1941? British, Canadian, Indian and Hongkongers fought side by side against their common foe. Some of the participants were students and teachers from local university. Canadian soldiers, just arrived weeks before the battle, fought gallantly defending this strange place.
Good job! Many thanks for your valuable sharing!
"We don't have the proper facilities to take you all prisoner"
"Flatten Arnhem."
Robert Cain won his VC at at Arnhem, his story is worthy of individual note as an intsance of unparalleled bravery and heroism and well worth looking up for yourself.
Jeremy Clarkson did a fantastic Documentary of his story.
The Armchair Historian: *Post Vietnam War*
Fans: "Yay, now we wait fo-"
The Armchair Historian: *Post Battle of Arnhem*
Fans: "Hold on"
I got to visit Arnhem this past February. It’s a modern Dutch city (90% of old Arnhem was destroyed in the battle) and it’s not the original bridge but it’s still a very cool visit and the original Hartenstein Hotel (which was HQ for British airborne troops) is still there as a museum.
The heroic stand that 2nd division made against overwhelming enemy strength is one of the great Tragedies of the invasion of Europe.
Only eclipsed by the slander of the Polish Para's. Lots of blame to go around for the failure of Op MG. Boy Brown and Gavin failure to seize the bridge, Air Command being overly cautious, 30 Corp being too leisurely,
(like pushing an army through a shower drain isn't going to take time) I've heard them all, but the greatest exhibition of guts and grit was Col Frost and his 2nd Div. Damned impressive! My personal view is the plan had too many moving parts.
Too much could go wrong, and it did. I blame Monty, but mostly Ike for greenlighting it. Real leaders take the blame.
Monty never did. Ike never did. The Pole's were thrown under the bus.
Mistakes are part of the fog of war. Too many mistakes add smoke to fog.
Is this like the movie " a bridge too far"?
Yep
Oh wow.. when i commented, everyone else commented
@@jenardnolieseminiano3458 it’s really good movie for the size and scope at almost three hours especially being in the 70s which they don’t make like this anymore.
@@chrislondo2683 When the British tanks begin their journey across the Nijmegen bridge, you can see modern traffic lights behind them.
@@AudieHolland I only watched them old times but i switched to the movie Zulu and 45 days at peking
Amazing video! But a small addition. It wasn't just the 9th ss panzerdivision, the British were facing. The 10th ss panzerdivision Frundsberg also played a huge role in the battle.
You would know both units were understrenght, 9th SS only had 3500 men NO TANKS and 10 SS had 4500 men and only 16 tanks, hardly a SS panzer division.
Last time I was this early history didn't exist yet
I still only got here 4 hours later
It's great being from Arnhem, and knowing the area by heart. I imagine what it would be like from this information, and with the animations I can paint a pretty cool picture of how it all went.
The treatment of the brave Polish airborne troops was a disgrace that warrants a video itself. It took until 2006 before they got the recognition they deserved when Stanisław Sosabowski received the Bronze Leeuw and the 1st Independent Parachute Brigade received the Willemsorde (Military Order of William). These men are honoured until this day in the village of Driel.
I remember talking to a former Para, Sid from Northern Ireland who was in that operation.
0:25 that bridge and the form the truck is positioned, kind of reminds me of...
Hmmm...
That’s what it’s based of
I dont get it all i think about is L4D2
What a fucking *Ikea*
@@MyName-lq7rv to be fair armchair historian loves putting referencea in their video like the avatar one
@@MyName-lq7rvThis looks a lot more like the scene from A Bridge Too Far
I notice you were able to use the German swastikas in this video, did RUclips finally give you a break??
Yeah, they have been finally allowed to use the swastika since their Germany Administration of France in ww2, well atleast the youtube is getting better
Walter Harzer who commanded German troops at Arnhem described it as a great victory won predominantly by logistics personnel and recruits over a 1st class British unit.
The majority of the German soldiers were not front line infantry, but logistics personnel, recruits undergoing basic training, Naval personnel totally unsuited to street fighting, even a brass band issued rifles & 30 rounds and told to head towards the sound of gunfire.
On the other hand 1st Airborne was considered an elite unit, highly trained, well armed and motivated.
I'm familiar with most German units fighting at Arnhem but haven't heard of a brass band being involved. Do you have any further details or identifiation of the unit?
The BdO (headquarters of the German Ordnungspolizei in the Netherlands) Musikkorps-Zug of 30-40 men left behind to guard the bridges at Nijmegen when the headquarters evacuated the city for their depot at Schalkhaar is a story I'm familiar with, but another band at Arnhem is something new to me.
@@davemac1197 They were part of a brass band incorporated into Division Von Tettau. They were ambushed by the KOSB at drop zone Y around 1700 hrs September 17 and suffered heavy casualties.
Mentioned in Robert Kershaw It Never Snows in September.
1st AB was far from elite.
@@nickdanger3802 if you say so...SILLY SHIRTFRONT
Oh looky here the officers that wanted to move 13 days before bernard got off his shabby arse. Bernard was worse at commanding than you commenting johndawg
*Horrocks, A Full Life, p. 205. On 4 September, Montgomery inexplicably halted Horrocks' XXX Corps, the lead element of his Second Army, just seventy miles from the Rhine river. In a military blunder second only to the failure at Antwerp* the Germans were given time to regroup and form defensive lines where none previously existed. *Horrocks best describes the frustrations in his memoirs: "Had we been able to advance that day we could have smashed through and advanced northward with little or nothing to stop us. We might even have succeeded in bouncing a crossing over the Rhine"*
*Richard Lamb, Montgomery in Europe 1943-1945: Success or Failure? (London: Buchan and Enright, 1983), pp. 201-02.General Pip Roberts was rightfully more critical of Montgomery than Horrocks who as a corps commander accepted much of the blame for the actions of his superiors, "Monty's failure at Antwerp is evidence again that he was not a good General at seizing opportunities."*
*Sir Francis De Guingand, From Brass Hat to Bowler Hat, p.16 Unfortunately I cannot say that I did support Operation MARKET-GARDEN* Montgomery's supposed master stroke; but as I was in the hospital in Aldershot I was powerless to dissuade him. *I attempted to, on the telephone; for there were too many ifs in the plan and Prince Bernard was warning, from his intelligence network in Bolland, that German armored units were stationed there* However, to my telephone warnings Montgomery merely replied, 'You are too far away Freddie, and don't know what's going on.'
*Horrocks: The General Who Led From the Front,by Philip Warner,p.111* - "There was only a single low grade division ahead of Horrocks on Sept 4. it was spread over a 50 mile front along the Albert Canal. Horrocks believed that this could have been brushed aside and XXX Corps could have gone on to cross the Rhine."*
I hate it that the Polish Air Brigade Commander was blamed. It seems to me that Montgomery was responsible for the failures of Market Garden. And my God, what the Dutch people behind German lines suffered during the winter of '44-45 was horrible.
British, Germans and Soviets favourite excuse: It was that polish man's fault
AKA Soviets in 1920 when Pilsudski flanks their troops at Warsaw after Tukhachevsky left half his forces behind, and then the American fighters start launching strafe attacks.
It is astonishing during the Western Allies' Operation Market-Garden that ad-hoc German forces, _Kampfgruppen,_ i.e., improvised "battle-groups," formed and centered around a few experienced, battle-hardened, and savvy army veterans but otherwise comprising army stragglers, _Luftwaffe_ ground crews, teenage _Kriegsmarine_ cadets, more teenage boys of the _Hitlerjugend,_ and others, many of whom, if not most, had never been trained as infantry or even fired a shot in battle before Arnhem, could fight a British Airborne Division, the infantry elite of the British Army, to an absolute standstill and stop it dead in its tracks. It was certainly an extraordinary and tremendous feat of arms by these improvised, ad-hoc German formations. The Germans truly were remarkable soldiers.
Max Hastings in his excellent book _Armageddon: the Battle for Germany, 1944-1945_ gives a searing and comprehensive account of Operation Market-Garden and the Battle of Arnhem and in this chapter's source notes on the battle he gives acknowledgment to Robert J. Kershaw's _"It Never Snows in September": the German View of MARKET-GARDEN and the Battle of Arnhem, September 1944_ which now I shall have to read as I am so intrigued by the Germans' operations at Arnhem. I hope it gives a good, detailed, and comprehensive account of how the Germans accomplished this great feat of arms and triumphed at Arnhem with such hurriedly formed ad-hoc, improvised formations of mostly untrained and fully inexperienced personnel so late in the war.
'Max Hastings in his excellent book Armageddon: the Battle for Germany, 1944-1945 gives a searing and comprehensive account of Operation Market-Garden and the Battle of Arnhem'
How so? Max Hastings was not there.
@@thevillaaston7811So what? The battle is a well-documented, well-recorded episode by official and other historians and Hastings simply recounts the historical record and the recorded and anecdotes of those who were there. If military historians had to be physically present at the events they describe and recount, military history would not exist.
@@asmodeus0454
But what does Max Hastings bring to the subject?
All the key information has been in the public domain for decades. All the key people involved had had their say, and are long since dead, there must be virtually no one alive now who was at Arnhem. How many documents and facts are quoted that have not appeared before? How many one on one interviews did Hastings conduct?
As far as the troops at Arnhem are concerned, Martin Middlebrook built his 1994 work: 'Arnhem 1944 The Airborne Battle' around the testimony of those that were there. He interviewed 500 veterans. Even then, nearly thirty ago it was probably almost too late.
Beevor, Buckingham, Barr, Hastings, and so on, have all churned out stuff about MARKET GARDEN. Each in turn is hailed as difinitive, or the last word, or some such . The subject just gets raked over, again and again and again. There is always a dig at Montgomery, Brererton, Browning, Gavin, and so on, with none of them now able to answer back. In many cases these writers state opinion as if it is fact.
Antony bloody Beevor justified his effort by claiming to have unearthed evidence about the suffering of the Dutch people in the Winter of 1944-45. Yea...its only been known about since the newsreels and press coverage in May 1945 of OPERATION MANNA.
Did you forget the SS Panzers in the area? Or is that not in the book?
Blaming the polish for fighting in Arnhem, even though not setting foot there, how outrageous. Countries such as Poland must always be left out for efforts they make and let bigger countries like Britain take credit for it, how outrageous that is ):(
This is not accurate
Just like in battle of britain, the best airgroup were polish
It's British what you expect
As a brit hearing about the polish commander being removed because "his troops fought very badly" i bloody shameful, like you said his troops didn't drop into Arnhem till later >:/
grate video yet again Griffon!
Atleast we, Poles, didn't blamed other divisions for their failure, even though they didn't even step a foot in their battle area or something.
Are you sure you’re a Brit? I don’t think you’re
@@carwyngriffiths why?
I live in the Netherlands.and I’m pretty happy that my country is in an video we are most of the time forgotten…
You are never forgotten. What the Germans put you through during the Hunger Winter and the rest of their atrocities will be remembered. The flowers on my Great Uncles grave at Oosterbeek is still one of the most heart rending scenes I've witnessed.
"WE DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES TO TAKE YOU ALL PRISONER, SORRY!"
"I always thought we were going a bridge too far"
Sir, we lost.
IT WAS THE POLES!
in the operation 10,000 British paras went in and 2,000 came back to friendly lines which is a 1/5 survival rate, sosabwski was only called bad too due to him being very critical of the awful operation which was rushed together by Monty for him to try and save some face. very sad and seflaih considering the thousands he killed in a desperate attempt to take some power from the Americans
' the awful operation which was rushed together by Monty for him to try and save some face. very sad and seflaih considering the thousands he killed in a desperate attempt to take some power from the Americans'
Total rubbish.
The V2 attacks on Britain alone justified Market Garden.
You can also find a 2 hour documentary by TIK about this battle if you want to get more in depth about the battle
I accidentally typed in “armhair historian” and I must say, everyone has a niche.
6:59 correction 6 pounder. The shells weigh 6 pounds not the gun.
The art is just amazing
The treatment of Stanisław Sosabowski was nothing short of a disgrace, the man was a hero and was not at fault for the poor planning on behalf of the British. The role he and his unit played was instrumental in helping the remanents of the British 1st Division withdraw. It's a shame his story isn't well known. A true hero.
Not really...
I remember seeing the movie "A Bridge Too Far" about this battle. John Frost was played by Anthony Hopkins--wonderful performance, but I kept waiting for him to propose eating the Germans with fava beans and nice Chianti