How SunnyV2 Ruined Video Essays
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I was dangerously close to titling this video "the sunnyv2ification of youtube", luckily I realized in time that this is the worst title of all time.
In this video I'm talking about video essay content farms, I discuss sunny's video on dream, chris and MrBeast. The video essay channels I mentioned in this video are:
The Right opinion
theashershow
big joel
jenny nicholson
and defunktland
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Editing: Owen Rogers
Research Help: Syd Cohen
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"Dream's face reveal is the worst decision a content creator has made"
idk I feel like Logan Paul filming a corpse or EDP trying to rizz-up kids are both just a tiny bit worse
Emphasis on "just a tiny bit"
Well apparently it wasnt for logan since mate is richer than ever.
@@Human-zx4rb He did take a small dip on that time, but yeah, he didn't care in the end and keeps scamming people
And if you consider Elliot Rodgers a content creator… Well…
@@HenryDevelopmentsthe fuck
SunnyV2's videos feels like my research essays in high school -- done in 2 days and twisting words and ideas from sources just to fit my thesis.
Yeah, his scripts really do have the vibe that he doesn't really put much effort into them. In any given video, half the script is him laying the background with basic facts about the situation that anyone can read off the first few links that come up in a google search and the rest is him twisting the narrative to fit his own worldview. It's all done so sloppily and the spin is barely hidden, it's genuinely incredible to me how many people don't see it.
His script is just "but the same can't be said for..." over and over again for transitions, which is really lame and boring. I do watch Sunnyv2 sometimes, only if it's just a really interesting topic.
Not to mention, the lack of conclusions for his videos. He'll be making the final point on the topic he's talking about, and then it just ends.
He use to care, now it seems that he wants views.
@@bobjones2959 not everyone wants to google an irrelevant youtuber because most of the channel he makes videos on are channels which people forgot about
I never realized Sunny put Dream’s doxxing information into the video, that’s actually insanely messed up.
wait did he really? like did he show the address and shit?
@@LoominousShroominous 11:13
@@lucascarr-og3ku WTF🤨
And then they still clown on Dream. Smh
@@windws7137 found the 8 year old brainwashed groomer fangirl
SunnyV2 saying that chris coming out as trans is like when hollywood adds lgbtq characters is batshit crazy to me.
Sunny when a person they know comes out as gay:
"OMG, It's just like hollywood and forced diversity"
People when someone comes out trans:
@@Mike-di3mo ??
@@ukulelevillain4170showed his true colours with those comments
@@JamTaylor69 ?? what does the comment mean?
The biggest gripe I have with essayist culture is the subculture of 'smart gossip' where it has all the bells and whistles of profound and intelligent discourse but all of it is just celebrity gossip.
Yeah lol. RUclips Drama is middle school level shit. For the more informative ones rarely does anyone with any expertise appear in them.
This is what i have been saying for so long and you've put it into words perfectly. I cannot for the life of me find any good, educational and profound videos to listen to. It's all hot garbage cause of that exact smart gossip.
Your literally watching and doing it right now
@@edwardelric363 You can't find any video essays that aren't based on drama? Really?
@@crazydragy4233 Hardly. Though you can blame it on me as well for having a specific craving. I do stumble upon good stuff every once in a while but it seems like out of 5 videos, 4 are gonna be useless drama.
"I know it's bad to insult a person's art, but these look like NFTs"
Bro went straight for the throat
I watched this entire video like six months ago out of personal interest and completely overlooked your unbelievable shoutout, until a friend texted me about it today. Truly, blessed. Thank you. You’re amazing.
-Danny
Aww appreciate it man, im a big big fan
wtf how trule yblessed
I remember being so confused when I watched Sunnyv2's " the dark side of Ryan's world" video which made it look like there was something bad going on behind the scenes, but in the actual video he defends Ryan's parents and says that they're doing nothing wrong and the channel is perfectly fine.
He defended Ryan's parents? Considering that his parents are shady for profitting off Ryan as a cash cow really says a lot about the problem with RUclips Kids videos nowadays.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 i mean, he seems happy as hell in all of his videos and hes growing up incredibly rich because of what hes doing, i really dont think hes gonna mind too much when hes older
@@womp47 Wealth doesn't matter because Ryan's World is not only soulless and abysmal as a RUclips content, but it is also exploiting the kid's life on camera, which is the point of why family vlogging becomes a problem in general.
Not to mention Ryan's mom got convicted for shoplifting. That shouldn't be an excuse.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 I dont watch kids content or family content, so i dont know much. But i watch a channel that likes to att4ck/exp0se/whatever-you-wanna-call-it youtube channels with child abuse/exploitation, he has met Ryan's Worlds parents (and ryan) and says they seem fine etc (obviously some are good at hiding things, but its probably not the worst channel on youtube atleast). Usually its the family vloggers who are the worst. Some of them even straight up film ch1ld 4buse, put it on youtube and it doesnt get demonitized. Its not until people outside their normal audience finds it and starts complaingin to youtube for weeks and months, that youtube does something.
About Ryans mom shoplifting, is this before or after getting rich from youtube? If its after, then what a p1ece of sh1t. If its before, then i probably dont care that much (unless they were well off before and/or it was a common thing).
(Holy cow, youtube is getting crazy about using "bad words".... wont let me post this comment. Edit: finally)
@@poweroffriendship2.0no one cares about someone getting convicted of shoplifting, I stole a nerf gun from a store when I was 10. It doesn't matter
What infuriates me the most about SunnyV2 is how he often highlights tweets with, maybe, 2 likes. This is a trap that a lot of creators seem to fall in, where they represent some groups opinion on a topic with just a single, tractionless tweet.
He shows diverse opinions, not just scrolling for 1 second and showing the most liked comment
Lack of interaction doesn't make such comments wrong though.
@@raceris7309but it does mean they're not necessarily the popular opinion, if the tweet had lots of engagement then it's clearly a prominent view, if it doesn't then it could just be what the creator thinks regardless of popularity
@@theFishy_ he doesn't the "diversity" of opinion goes from 100% in line with what sunny is saying to basicaly 100% in line with what he is saying
when he talks about others opinions he mentions them in passing to make it seems like a minor unimportant opinion
@@theFishy_ it’s not diverse if he goes through cherry picking the 4 no interaction tweet replies that best help push the narrative he’s going for
It feels like SunnyV2 writes every video script in less than an hour and just reads whatever he has, and then pays an editor to do all of the heavy lifting for him.
I doubt he writes them, his videos feel like a fiverr worker wrote them
Dude what’s the big deal if he pays someone to edit his video. Im not trying to defends him but i don’t see the big deal if you can’t edit. Are you telling me he should spend months learning to edit well when he can just pay someone
He is just the guy reading it, I doubt he is doing more except outsourcing and collecting AdSense. Won't take long until there are 'guests' to do the reading for him, too.
@@SAGE_EDITS_1 the difference is his editor does all the work for him and gets paid probably nothing compared to Sunny
@@Fairp so who cares? If somebody can’t edit why not just pay someone else y’all are actually throwing a hissy fit over small sh*t like this so childish
"Adding characters" ah yes imagine a business meeting that just decides a person is now trans because of BRANDING
The crazy thing is that some people genuinely think it can work like that, since they don't see trans people as real in the first place.
Buzzfeed Animation Lab in a Nutshell
"Mom, dad, I'm gay"
"WOW, forced diversity much? Why are they adding a new LGBT character when it's not relevant to the plot?"
Imagine if life had writers.
@@f.u.m.o.5669 ah, the classic buzz
The strangest way I've seen SunnyV2 fans defend him is by basically going "he can't be cancelled because he doesn't respond to criticism ever". I've seen the line being said literally everywhere, so much so to the point that the people saying it sound like literal robots.
Like, ok, sure, whatever. But that doesn't mean what he does is somehow good or worthy of consideration. He's still a pretty terrible video essayist at the end of the day and whether or not he can get "cancelled" means nothing.
Such a statement you could say is not really defending him ... but if it's not a defense then why does everybody say it, so often, often towards people saying he's a shit essayist.
I don't think anyone is saying it in response to people who don't like Sunnyv2 videos. I think people are just pointing out how if Sunnyv2 had given some apology the people who were offended to begin with wouldn't have cared or accepted the apology and that he demonstrates the best way to respond to criticism. And him being a shit video essayist isn't an argument either, it's a subjective opinion.
But, why is anybody calling him "essayist" though?? Obviously he will pass as a terrible essayist if he's not doing essays, the same way a football player will pass as a terrible basketball player, because he's not being judged on the according merits. I don't recall Sunny to ever sell himself as an essayist per se, let alone an "intellectual". I think people might get that vibe simply from the style: authoritative tone, dramatic soundtrack, stilted accent etc. Yet he never elaborates with breakdowns and detailed arguments to explain an overarching idea, his content has always been more on the journalistic side, just reporting on facts, stories and hearsay while adding some basic commentary or opinion. Not to mention, the subject matter of his videos has certainly never pretended to be anything other than RUclips / e-celeb / general mainstream media celebrity drama and gossip, never anything surrounding world history or politics or general culture or societal topics etc... So the random association of Sunny's content with the whole RUclips essayist sphere baffles me.
In my opinion, the problem here is that we're throwing a net way too wide on the definition of "video essayist", where any RUclips content creator that makes videos talking about any subject, with a bare minimum entry level "breakdown" of the topic at hand, qualifies in our minds as an "essayist". So, again, back to the analogy with sports, that's like accusing somebody who can simply kick a ball of being a terrible football player when that person never pretended to be one.
The only time he will be responding if the people force his channel to get demonetized and can't be monetized anymore.
@@CRMdrifter > I think people are just pointing out how if Sunnyv2 had given some apology the people who were offended to begin with wouldn't have cared or accepted the apology
This is false. People do in fact want to see someone apologize and see that he or she have learned from their mistakes. SunnyV2 has learned nothing, he outright refuses to learn, and that's what makes him shit.
@@Fragenzeichenplatte Lol nope. Not a single person on the internet who was offended by the original video would watch a SunnyV2 apology and go like "wow, seems like this dude has learned and improved". They'd either take a dump on the apology itself or dismiss the apology by saying that he was only trying to limit backlash. And regardless his video wasn't transphobic and was 100% proven correct. Chris is barely featured in videos anymore and is now a much more controversial figure than he was 4-5 years ago. That's just reality. The video simply discusses how Chris deciding to become a woman will affect the Mr Beast brand and channel which is a 100% reasonable discussion to have.
There’s something so sadistic at analysing someone’s happiness and right to exist as a business decision.
Except it is. There's tons of people who are anti-trans or don't support the LGBTQ therefore they will stop watching Mr. Beast. Meaning that Mr. Beast will make less money, it's not that hard to understand. It's not sadism, it's facts and if you want to ignore facts then you are lost.
@@everyonesfavoritesejong naw they’re right. This comments pretty sadistic.
happy? that remains to be seen.
@@everyonesfavoritesejong How many trans people have you, yourself, directly spoken to about their experiences? How many do you personally, deeply know? I'm trans, I have many trans friends, and I spend a lot of time in those spaces, both online and offline. Literally all of them, myself included, are much happier after transitioning. If anything makes us unhappy, it's the constant intolerance and harassment we get from people who don't (and don't want to) understand us. Many of our biggest critics are just repeating misinformation they've heard other, non-trans people say. In my experience, people who don't support us would rather get their information about us from anyone BUT us. That's honestly, the biggest source of our frustration -- peoples' lack of understanding and unwillingness to learn from our perspective. We're honestly just tryin to get by and live our lives true to who we are, and the reason we get loud about it, is because there are many, many people hellbent on preventing us from doing that.
@@everyonesfavoritesejong they’d probably be a lot happier if people like you stopped making them feel weird
What used to draw me to video essays was that they were made by people who cared SO much about a topic they could talk about it for 40+ minutes. Even if the topic didn’t mean much to you personally, you’d want to watch those videos just to see that passion in action. That’s the quantity issue in play, in my opinion - now that the format is having a moment it’s just not possible to care about enough stuff to fill out an upload schedule.
right? now it seems like they're just an updated version of drama reporting youtubers.
TL;DR autistic youtubers are more engaging
>care so much about a topic they could talk about it for 40+ minutes.
That's mostly because of stupidly long openings and a majority of the video being filled with irrelevant fluff that adds nothing. At most, there's like 5-7 minutes worth of content actually watching in video essays.
>Even if the topic didn't mean much to you personally, you'd want to watch those videos just to see that passion in action
No at all, no. Most content creators clearly don't have passion, why else would a majority of gaming related youtubers be so godawful?
@@vileprune6640 Yeah, pretty much. They're still making videos about completely pointless drama, but now it's being presented matter-of-factly like it's the news or something.
@@kek-senpai243you must only be watching bad video essays lol
His attack video on Ninja was weird too. He made it sound like Ninja completely fell off, made horrible business decisions, and failed, when he's definitely still creating and making tons of money. It felt like he was jealous of Ninja the whole time
"ninja's dark side" was not being racist apparently
FINALLY. People praise SunnyV2 so much and i remember watching his stuff because i love video essays and just feeling kinda icky? like i wasn’t watching someone passionately talk about a niche topic they unapologetically want to show their love for, and moreso just seeing someone try to discredit stranger’s integrity for views.
Sunnyv2 is being called out more and more
@@frozenuruguayball6436 thank god
yeah it’s not the same as hearing someone rant for two hours about a visual novel i’ve never heard of, that’s the good stuff
@@aspennntree EXACTLY. dude we're totally on the exact same side of youtube
@@leorafilms. because it’s the best stuff obviously, i need to know everything about this horror game i will never play and isn’t even for sale anymore because I Just Need To
Quality vs. Quantity is something a lot of creators are seeming to forget
Quantity is more preferred by the RUclips algorithm than quality
@@AlexanderDonahue but it provides you with little defense if you mess up like he did
@@AlexanderDonahue I know but there is a balance between the two that a lot of creators have found
Then you have Down the Rabbit Hole's Fredrik Knudsen tripling down on the quality aspect lately. He's been working 9 months on a 5 HOUR video about a EVE online battle. Which is nuts!
@@ashleytupper6049 I agree it’s just that most creators don’t forget quality they just sell out to the algorithm
One of the things I've noticed about Sunny's stuff is that whenever he is going through a top 10 list. He'll end each on by saying something along the lines of, "at least this person wasn't as bad as our next person." But then spend ~ 1.5 minutes describing someone who is extremely tame and ending with the same hook, "But he got off much easier then our next person." who suffered nothing
Yeah its so unnecessary 😂😂😂
Love this comment
I watched ONE SunnyV2 video to see what all the noise was about and it was something like this..
IT WAS SO UNBAREABLE IT INSTANTLY DROVE ME AWAY FROM HIS CONTENT ITS SO AWKWARD!!
Ugh
The other thing that baffles the F@&K out of me is how anyone can listen to his manufactured ‘microphone’ voice with the exaggerated ending to each sentence. As an Australian, it sounds so ridiculously staged and fake I just can’t listen to his channEllllll.
Yeah he's really bad at transitions.
Sunnyv2 is more a gossip channel than a essay channel. It's always about other creators, and just some metrics why it's a downfall or rise&fall.
If sunnyv2 is a content farm im the 3 yo golboling it up
I can’t wait for his final video, ‘the rise and fall of sunnyV2’
The "Don't recommend channel" button is a godsend with the way RUclips is setup today🙏
Fr! I feel like I'm using it more often these days...
Too bad I can only use youtube on chrome, and that option isn't one there.
if it ever fucking worked :(
I have a channel blocker extension too
@@SW1TCHED-CHANNELS You have my sympathies. Stay strong.
One of the worst aspects of video essays in my opinion is the frequency of using tweets or youtube comments and displaying them as evidence. SunnyV2 will purposely choose comments that help improve what he is pushing.
@@annie-banannie yeah, but it’s a different story when he decides to cherry pick specific comments that help him push a false narrative
I saw it more as showing the opinions of the other side because he could find plenty of comments saying the same dumb shit
This is precisely it, he picks comments that represent his own opinions, throw in a few other comments from both sides so you don't think "wow he really said that"
@@jajinx2 he doesnt throw in comments from both side just one side lolw
@annie In the Chris video specifically, you can tell he has a bias and is hiding behind the comments to say what he really wants to.
SunnyV2 does this vocal affectation that drives me absolutely nuts. It's hard to describe but he like draws out the last syllable of words to try and drive a point home and it's completely infuriating. It sounds simultaneously pompous and ignorant.
Yea it’s called vocal fry. Plus his transitions are so cringe and out of nowhere.
@@Qabazard thank you for giving a name to this abomination.
I fucking hate how he'll end the last word of his sentences with "-uh." like at 7:09 "intendeduh... distractionuh... videouh"
@gammysquirms I'm so sorry but for video that's just how some people here in Australia say video? At least if I'm reading the sound right?
I've never noticed the others (distinction etc) when I did watch him but it's hard to notice when you have the same accent.
And honestly fair enough we can't speak properly lmao. That's why we give everything and everyone short nicknames, even if their name is two syllables.
In the same vein, I'm not sure how common vocal fry is here in Aus, I personally only notice it with certain American accents.
If he's a Queenslander, the only thing I can think of is the Queenslander accent (can be quite drawled, nasal etc, especially in rural Queensland).
Australia does have regional accents they just aren't very noticeable, especially to non-Aussies but that could also play a part?
@@emmad4308usually it just sounds like "vidiaur" but with its like "vidiaurruhhh"
Like an annoying mix of Australian and Silicon Valley. An Aussie raised in LA
I’m honestly happy he made the video on Kris because people are finally realizing how weird SunnyV2 is
Chris is weirder if you look at those tweets he made about children from 5 years ago
@@bluechains3452 yeah so was jimmy? It’s stupid to attack people based on tweets from so long a go when they’ve clearly changed a lot since them. And it’s Kris but I already know that you don’t care
@@maquainferno so Chris and jimmy both made weird tweets about children. Also you act like 5 years ago was 30 years. All I’m gonna say is 90% of the population won’t have to mature from a recent past of saying weird things about children.
@bluechains3452 you act like 5 years is 1 month
@@theoneandonly-qs1uw if someone did something wrong/weird (like murder or in Chris case making various weird comments about children) I have the right to look down upon them and not want to be around them. Sorry not sorry but if your brain thinks those things or does them, I’m not gonna give you 5 years to see if you “changed”
Sunny v2 used to be video essays but now it’s more like a commentary channel with frequency of uploads, topic, and style.
Once a week is frequent uploads?
@@jackw3250 for essays yes
@@Ooffoop maybe you are just slow
@@Ooffoop maybe 2-3 times a week, but a week is 30-40 hours of research on a topic and then creation of the video, it is just an essay it’s not like mr. Beast making an amusement park. Maybe we just have different ideas of length of time:effort of product, or maybe you really just hate sunnyv2?
@@jackw3250 bro you think they dont take breaks?
Am I the only one who feels like he genuinely came out of nowhere? I remember seeing one of his videos a while back and then before I knew it everyone was talking about him.
I think he just grew organically overtime while using popular subjects such as Nikocado to help with his growth
The pandemic boosted a lot of channels into popularity
He is a Terrifying Ghost.
clickfarming more than likely
Charlie watched some of his videos on stream, it gained a lot of attention there
his thumbnails are just pictures of the people he's talking about run thru a picture to art app
Id recognize that style anywhere
BigJoel essays are organic grown, made with love, with wooden hand crafted tools. SunnyV2 is the combine harvester going through a field saturated with mined phosphate and glyphosphate.
🤓 erm actually it’s glyphosate
GOTTA REEP REEP REEP
Big Joel? Eh, he's no Little Joel.
@@Cool_Kid95gotta do some bar bar baring
very real
I've watched SunnyV2's videos for the past year and found them entertaining but always felt a bit icky about how negative every single video is
His videos are very inane and have a pretty blatant manufactured narrative. I've watched some of his videos but I recommend looking up any topic he's made a video on and just watching any one that's longer than his video because it's probably way more entertaining and informative
Fr!!! He has to be miserable constantly engaging is negative content, producing negative content, and reacting to negative content. There’s no way to properly manage how much negativity you get when you surround yourself with it 24/7. Sunny doesn’t seem like a positive or generally happy person. Hence why his videos always have negative vibes. Bro cannot be happy rn.
@@Bwapbwapfrog ?? Why are you making it so personal, it's just business.
@@harmonycstalkerprobably because his “business” leaves people with false narratives and he removes the person from the equation
I find him pretty entertaining still, I'd give him a 5.5 on accuracy, though.
SunnyV2 showcasing a lot of toxic tweets and comments with like 0 likes is so weird.
Totally not biased /s
my mans also put a sneako quote in his video. hes such a degen
Heavily ratioed tweets, no less
That twitter account isn't even real lmao
Funny how his Stan's didn't invade this thread
His thumbnails honestly just look like he put an "art filter" over some screengrabs which is probably actually what he does
SunnyV2's habit of finishing every sentence with that "-uhh" sound is beyond irritating
"relevancyyyuhh" drove me over the edge
SunnyV2's videos always gave me the "Adding as many extra words to your English essay to make it fuller and sound more fancy" without actually getting ANY points across or having a reasonable conclusion.
edit: the sunnyv2 dickriding is insane 💀
I used to do the same thing, Googled the most smartass synonyms of that word for my essays. It’s probably a 'word of the day' type of thing for that guy though.
@@4m4n40 we've all been there! he never grew out of it though 💀
Dude the guy your watching rn is doing the same, everything here could be compacted into 10mins lol
@@vyndiagram Having a diverse vocabulary isn't a bad thing.
@@citizenvulpes4562 having a diverse vocabulary is fine, using it to basically pad the script without adding to it isn't.
I came here as a SunnyV2 viewer, but I watched with an open mind and I realise now how weird this style of fast food video essays really is. Thank you for enlightening me :)
What a wholesome comment
Same. I just realized after seeing how stilted the Chris vid was.
I’m glad you’re here😊 I used to watch SunnyV2 not that long ago 😅
Bs
Ugh I'm reluctantly enlightened
As a Aussie we disowned sunyv2
Yeah he's a Yank now. We're giving him the Murdoch treatment
I feel this way about TurkeyTom too, the posts just never stop
I thought that was just me being jaded, I've felt like the videos I've watched from him have felt a lot less passionate
TurkeyTom will literally try to psychoanalyze people, then get stuff wrong, then just says "Oh im not an expert dont blame me"
@@restant8845 My biggest problem is he will say something then play a clip that shows exactly what he says which makes his comment completely pointless. Just let me watch the clips or add something to the content
Turkey tom is trash
@@restant8845 He also never apologized for what he said about Pyrocinical during that drama..
This video could be a NIGHTMARE for Pinely...
...but probably not really.
breathing live on video could cause a huge fraction of his fanbase who are anti-breathing to stop watching his channel
How In any way
It's ballsy fs
@@lumus7 pretty sure they were telling a joke. SunnyV2 is kinda known for having thumbnails and titles saying “why (topic of video) will soon be a NIGHTMARE for (known individual)”. Unless you knew that and now I’m the silly one for not getting your humour, soz if that’s the case
@@iamupsidedown5657 bruh he TALKS in the video.
Im anti talking AF I cant support that sorry.
Pinely fell off smh my head😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Wendigoon, Nexpo, Defunctland and ESPECIALLY Summoningsalt are my absolute favourite video essay channels. they only upload once in a while, about once a month, and these videos are so researched and high quality its worth it to watch every single one
Nexpo is SO awesome finally someone said it. He puts so much time and effort into his videos!!!
Nexpo is AMAZING dude
Wendigoon and Defunctland is proof that quality > quantity. I fully expect those channels to still be pumping out hits in 5 years unlike sunny.
As a regular viewer of SummoningSalt, I was waiting for him to be mentioned in the comments! Love his videos so much!
Wendigoon is such an interesting guy to watch. He thoroughly researches his topic and doesn’t rush the process. Plus it’s always something new and not known from the media
Everyone talking about SunnyV2 but Moon is basically the same but with politics and modern society, painting everything in a negative light
Oh yeah, Moon is basically SunnyV2 2.0 or SunnyV3 if you want. 😅
God moon is awful. AI generated slop then says the same shit everyone knows like "Oh this is how the elites control you" and everyone claps. He was caught plagiarizing multiple times.
Moon sucks so much
Oh yes, Moon. "[X] Tried to Warn You", "[X]: A Warning for Men", etc. Rinse and repeat.
I remember him shaking on his boots after the Hbomberguy plagiarism video came out. What a self report.
@@MrGared22 Haha, where can I learn more about this?
as a discouraged creative, i really empathize with your musings in the final minutes. its really hard to watch the people around you who aren't even really enjoying themselves be so successful. i do wonder if its all worth it sometimes, but i appreciate your dedication to the craft
Sunny to me became the literal epitome of the "Generic Video Essayist". The goofy ahh transitions, the thumbnail made with an animated art style, the condescending voice, the pretentious type of presenting with his information, it's all there.
If he was a ranting channel then he absolutely would have an avatar on the right side of the screen who changes facial expressions every 5 seconds when they say they don't like something
All their videos end on a horribly abrupt note. I'm beginning to think they just use AI to generate their scripts.
Bro sunnyv2 haters being astroturfed after he dropped the Chris video 😆😆
>generic video essayist
You mean all of them? They're all pretentious internet strangers who make Video game youtubers seem high quality.
aw man i actually kinda like him
@@kek-senpai243 see theres a big difference between somepne who talk in details about what they like or dislike in puece of fiction every 3 months than a dude who basically slanders people he doesnt like on the regular
I think Defunctland is my favorite Video Essay channel because Kevin doesn’t post super often, but when he does it’s super in depth, unique, and well researched. I also love the pop culture/fashion/music analysis channels who go into topics most people don’t even really think about.
To me Defunctland is an actual documentary channel than a video essay channel
Kevin has an insane influence. My college professors have watched him because he is one of the only people to make a proper breakdown of Jim Henson's history and legacy (I go to the same university he did) amongst other things
yeah i like him and izzyzz personally
@@jook9793 ahhh I love izzzyzzz!
Nerd city imo is up their with defunct land. I think Kevin has more professional training/experience, but the content nerd city puts out, especially the newer stuff, is just mind bending lvls of insanity. The guy behind the channel iirc is an editor at heart and it shows. So many aspects of the editing is near unparalleled imo on the platform, at least by original creators. I discount full on established production houses and media companies in this (yet almost all of them still have worse quality videos imo then people like defunctland and nerd city)
Yeah, you really hit a lot of the reasons why I don't watch sunnyV2 anymore. It started with him making a video about chris and I ended up not watching him anymore after I saw he click baited the Stephanie actress from Lazy Town in one of his thumbnails.
Qui-Gon Jin: "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent." Ep 1
More than half of the reason for Sunnys's video success is their easy videos streamers can react to.
Is content that you watch with your brain on off mode, is not worth it to pay attention, specially with the info is from the first 5 links that appear on Google, it has some good made videos (Island boys was one of them, he searched a bit harder but it works) but is mostly braindead content, good to hear while idk, cooking or washing
Especially Hassan holy shit
I think the Illuminaughti point is interesting, because I absolutely BINGED her content for a couple days, and then realized it made me feel like my brain was made of soup.
LITERALLY same, I stopped watching when she (the person who made ANTI diet culture videos, for the record) made a really disgusting fatphobic comment, but for the longest time I was just sitting there waiting for a video good enough to make me subscribe but getting the growing sense that all she does is profit off of tragedy and trauma
@@k3y_sm4sh She also financially abused and scammed multiple boyfriends and made attempts to frame competing youtubers in her genre for crimes they didnt do
@@finnlikesplanes7110
I have no issues with video essays on her, Sssniperwolf or EDP because all three have committed crimes and have ruined lives
Not comparing who's worse that I agree with videos on them calling out their criminal behavior
I remember her video on furries and it literally was her going over like the one sociological study anyone has ever done on them and going “hmm, this is interesting” it was sssniperwolf shit. (Furries are a criminally understudied sociological group. There is a lot of rich history and discoveries about human behavior, especially neurodivergent behavior, that could be made there)
@@FloofMother I didn't see that video but yeah that sounds really low quality. If you're gonna be a "call out" channel you can't just read someone else's work and call it a day 😂
SunnyV2 really seems to be just the 2020 equivalent to Leafy is Here. He makes a video on someone he dislikes in a bland manner using the same points each time. With Sunny, it's they fell off, and with Leafy, it's that they're weird.
I've said it in another video about Sunny, but as an Aussie the way he talks is exactly like a first-year journalist student (which is subjectively annoying to listen to). I find his stuff impossible to watch because of the grating cadence, and the way he pulls source like years old reddit comments with little engagement or substantive facts to back them up.
To me he absolutely crosses that line of essayist in to drama/reactionary territory by making the same choices react tubers do. Pumping out current affair content with little investigation and even worse, doing that "just asking questions" thing while pulling comments that support the narrative he's spinning.
And he's certainly 'reactionary' in more ways than one - his videos are filled with right wing dog whistles.
The "is it worth it?" really got me. There are so many videos that have moved me, changed my perspective, or changed my life entirely- all created by people who didn't compromise their creative happiness for quick fame. But happiness doesn't pay rent, and as fulfilling as sticking to your creative truth can be, the impacts of lack of recognition or growth when others are blowing up from the fast-food style content wears down on your soul.
yeah, and especially the "everything just turned into numbers." Never before in my life this describe how the world works and makes me a bit depressed. Like, it reminds me of school when I try my hardest to study and managed to not fail but other next to me manage a 100 by cheating multiple ways when the test start and getting praised by teacher. Reminds me of workplace even, when I try so hard to even manage covering the cost of my weekly food but other can just suck up the manager and get extra paid with their work done by their juniors and all that.
Really makes you think huh
@@ilno That part was so well paced and delivered so perfectly that it was like a gut punch that you don't feel until a few seconds later.
It's a cycle we've seen time and time again, in businesses and RUclips and content creation, where someone starts with their heart in it and makes art that people connect to. And on the very, _very_ rare occasion, they'll make it big. Usually after years of working so so hard.
So I understand the desire to sell out. Not just for the money, but for the recognition, to be seen. You're already putting the effort in, likely have for a while, and you just want people to see that on a grand scale like they do the content farm channels.
But then you if you end up making it, you're not really... You. You're not making what you wanted to. You get seen, but not for the art that makes you light up and that you were putting out that made you want to be seen. And pivoting away from that is hard to do in content creation. Your new audience wants what they were drawn to. Your old audience wants what they loved.
And what do you want?
It's easy so say I wouldn't want to sell out, that I'd rather have a small following and do what I love. But when you're pouring heart and soul and endless hours into something and getting nothing much in return, it can wear you down, no matter how much you love it.
But it's worth making what makes you happy. Because you'll find people who love it.
As we've seen, the content farm channels or the creators who shift to churn and burn styles of fast food content, whilst they may succeed in the short/mid, even long term, it tends to run it's course. People want to connect with art. They want to connect with the humanity in it, the effort it took. Like Pinely said, the small quirks each creator has is a great example.
At the end of the day, we are human, and we want to learn, create, connect, love, be loved, be part of something. When we see a person light up on a niche topic and make content around it- or at least I speak for myself here- I don't care if it's not a topic I find interesting. It's their passion, their innate humanity, their art, their humour, their own behaviours on display that draw me in. I'll sit and watch because I get to see a beautiful piece of art that features a human front and centre, sharing something vulnerable and exciting, as if to say "Hey, this is part of my world, why don't you come join me in it for a while and I'll show you around?".
And that's what I love. That moment of connecting through art with someone I'll never meet, but getting a glimpse into their world, their passion, their excitement and experiences.
It's irreplaceable.
I'd rather watch a video essay on a topic I hate, made by a person, than on my favourite ever topic, written and created by mostly bots/in the fast food content style.
Cause it feels so different. It feels _lonely_.
And the last thing we need in the world right now is less connecting.
The fact that this vid is literally a video essay 😂
@@MiFtY3 Fr lmao
I love that you mentioned Defunctland. That video (and the whole channel) is proof that you can make amazing content that’s positive - and, honestly, beautiful - without having to resort to being mean, petty, and shallow. Our king Kevin is over there making Titanic-length videos on how the freaking queuing schematic at Disneyland works, and it’s engaging, fascinating, and an AMAZING video. And you’re over here taking Pickle Rick, a topic that could be either dumb or pedantic, and turning it fascinating, deep, and incredibly well-rounded. This is the content that makes RUclips special.
Yes! I think the main thing is that you can hear the passion he has about the topic seeping through, sort of like how someone’s eyes light up when talking about their interests.
Same thing I find with Billiam, Bright Sun Films, and Friendly Space Ninja. They adore the subjects they talk about and it really shows
Defunctland is such a great channel, one of my favourites
His Oobi video really hit deep, like it unlocked some hidden memories of mine lmao
@@SallyBerry9 Bright Sun and Defunctland rule! Also Peter Dibble is fucking amazing.
Yes! I love Defunctland and Jenny Nicholson's videos on theme parks a lot! And for Jenny, on any topic in general haha. Shes great at making videos too
My favorite one was him saying Ninja was being anti-racist for clout and said it was fake then provided 0 evidence of him being fake or racist
SunnyV2 sees people as content machines not as actual normal humans.
“these look like nfts” thats one of the most scathing things i’ve heard people say about sunnyv2 and it just fits in with how PAINFULLY CORPORATE all his videos are especially the mr beast and chris video
I also felt like his thumbnails kinda lk whitewashed a bit?
@@yew8707 i think it may just be the godawful filter he puts over them
@@gremloid Fair point
@@yew8707 what ☠
@@yew8707 Nigga what is u on 💀
even before the chris shit, he had stupid takes and it was obvious how much of a content farm he is💀
NINJA FELL OFF CAUSE HE DOESN'T CALL KIDS RETARDS IN FORTNITE ANYMORE AND TRIES TO BE A GOOD ROLE MODEL 😠😠😠😠
bro is stupid
yeah i remember one time he made a video on a youtube channel focused on two siblings and he was calling them spoiled and saying they didnt get along anymore. and then the brother stepped in and basically called him a liar.
edit: the adi scale has proven me wrong
I remember in the Fake Tourettes video, Sunny kept referring to the person to she eventhough multiple sources said ‘they’. It definitely felt like he never really looked into the sources and just said whatever.
Do not forget the Notch & Gypsy Crusader apologia.
Don't forget it's clear he just makes videos against people he doesn't like and says their career is failing. Like, regardless of what you think about Ethan Klein, if you have a 3 hour podcast daily that's netting 300K to 500k views, that is not a dead career just because he isn't making regular commentary videos anymore.
The Mr Beast thing is in the same vein, just trying to shit on a person Sunny doesn't approve of but through the lense of youtube views so he can look "objective"
i don’t think pinely gets enough recognition and appreciation for his amazing thumbnails! they’re so creative and engaging!! they literally look like movie posters!
legit. his thumbnail game is unmatched
Thinking someone coming out as Trans is considered "drama" is so weird
I totally agree. The drama should be about how people reacted terribly
The worst part about SunnyV2’s speech is how every word no matter what it is ends with “uhh”.
yeah its like im australian and my accent does sometimes make me end words with "uh". but. he drags it out. so god damn much. it drives me insane. like no normal australian accent drags it out that much lmao
@DarkCoreX it's just an preference, get over it.
@@j-skullz learn how to spell
Thank you, someone said it!
Vocal fuhhhry
Respect to this guy for having the confidence in making a video about someone with a massive audience.
(Didn't expect this to get big and yes, cliche I know.) I was writing this because this is my first time watching Pinely and when I saw the title, I was quite surprised as if this was a shot at SunnyV2 (Which it technically is) I still enjoyed the video nonetheless,.
ofc he ain't scared, after Sunny made that Chris video, lots of people who defends Chris will come to help this guy
@@Dot_1 thats the thing, this random dude is attacking sunny :/ sunny was saying the truth tbh, chris/mr beast dont have the same vibe as they used to, legit sunny said nothing wrong, all these youtubers r tryna be friendly with chris so they dont appear transphobic or smth
@@ASDFPLAYZ Sunny went in the wrong when he treated Chris as an asset and not a human.
@@ASDFPLAYZ people change, the vibe can change too, I don't see the issue there. If a group of people doesn't ever change or change their dynamics, the authenticity of the content is highly questionable then. The idea is of a just a friend group, not a scripted sitcom. Especially when it is a matter of personal life and choices. Like what would he expect, for a person to completely suppress his personality and identity purely for show business?
@@fink_rat he meant it like he could theoretically use chris for views, thats basically it, and sunny isnt wrong, yk a lot of ppl would wanna see how this would turn out.
Sunny v2s evidence for his points are always backed up with random comments with 2 likes, it's really in depth.
Now he's even doing half-assed short videos on topics that have already been talked to death. At least he didn't go full evil like Jake Tran.
I stopped watching SunnyV2 a while ago but I recently watched his “Child Celebrities with Terrible lives now” as it popped into my feed and the video is ass but the thumbnail is so disingenuous. It features Stephanie from LazyTown (Julianna Rose Mauriello ) and not only does she not even feature in the “essay” but he didn’t even bother to research where the actress who plays Stephanie is now. She’s fine, has a good life and none of the internet rumours about her seem to be true but he doesn’t care about stuff like that and he doesn’t care about the truth. He’s an ass. I won’t watch another of his essays.
But he is not talking about Stephanie. If he did then well obviously. Sometimes RUclipsrs will clickbait their thumbnails. I only watch him only when he doesn’t cover a specific person cause then it would be somewhat misleading.
"misleading"???? it's straight up clickbait
@@puggernaut6840click bait is misleading 🦦
Wow man I’m sure that’s gon affect him 😭
@@GriffithSlayerDamn someone talked shit about ur daddy 😂.
The last few sunnyV2 videos always left me feeling empty, i never liked it nor disliked it but i never knew why. I just knew it lacked soul and felt soulless
mhm. i used to listen to video essays for hours, they were all well researched and to be honest i could listen to just about anything. v2's content never made me feel complete. the clickbaity titles were either never answered or he said like 2 things about it, you could tell he either didnt research enough about stuff or he was just creating issues out of nothing since there was usually minimal proper "evidence". the only stuff he had evidence for was topics that were already popularly discussed and he would almost never source actual articles. i didnt question it at the time because i knew that making a video about online issues would probably not have any real media coverage. but as i look back i notice that all his evidence was fucking tweets. he presents like two ass pieces of evidence that you cant really agree with or disagree with and then he'll start "explaining" the evidence. in reality his explanation would be his opinion and you could see it rubbing off on everyone in the comments. his "video essays" are a joke to the whole community and i dont even want to think about the impact he has left on not only video essays but how people view the video essay genre.
his editing saved it all. a good editor goes a long way, makes you look professional while you spew the stupidest stuff on earth
Because those videos were about people you liked. You only feel attacked when he mentions someone you liked but proceed to laugh and smile when it's someone you don't know.
@@AuroraBoost nah, he just has terrible takes in general. he always says that men shouldn't talk about their mental health which is such bullshit (and everything orr says in this video of course)
@rowan_like_the_tree It's not bullshit tho, men are the ones most affected by depression, lonlynes and suicidal thought.
@@nachi2735 man I truly didn't notice i thought I said shouldn't im gonna go edit that comment
I remember watching a video he made called ‘the tragic tale of gypsy crusader’ or something, and he was so incredibly biased towards a guy who had said and done some truly unforgivable things. He left out key details in order to fit the narrative he was trying to push… it was hard to watch
that video was the red flag that pushed me away from his channel. dude was very obviously trying to push a real ugly narrative
nowadays I just listen to video essays to have some background noise while i draw or play video games lol
i'm a serial video essay consumer and i've watched thousands of hours worth of video essays on topics i had no prior interest in solely because i enjoy the passion the essayists have for the topics they're talking about. it's genuinely so beautiful seeing people put weeks or months of effort into sharing info about some niche i'd have otherwise never known about with thousands of strangers online for free, simply because it's something they're passionate about.
Touch grass
@@ZuckMihoff looks like SOMEONE doesn’t know about spongebob squarepants Skin Theory
@@jemberlou I know skin theory!!!
@@augustoof13 i have! i love defunctland, and that video was incredible. i've seen so many other creators cite it as an inspiration to them. :')
@@ZuckMihoff are you okay?
SunnyV2 is like if Keemstar and Tim Pool had a baby and that baby started making video essays
you summed it up perfectly
Add a bit of Sneako and Adin "I can't spell English properly" Ross and you'd be golden
I refuse to believe the spawn of Keemstar and Tim Poole would even be capable of sapience
Nah his vids are pretty fire tho
@@heavensgate2245nah he talks about and makes fun of those people all the time idk what ur on about
so it's clean SunnyV2 doesn't see anyone as a person and thinks they people are giant corporations or think like giant corporation or think that there is a giant corporation running behind the scenes of every youtube channel and the youtuber is an actor or a face for the channel that makes no decisions
This was a great video! I can understand why SunnyV2's channel is so popular despite its overall lack of personality. With the videos being much shorter and tv-like, I often see them put in the background.
Yep
My biggest issue with V2 is how at the end of almost every sentence the last word he says is almost always drawn oooouuuuut.
Sounds bigoted of you to hate on his accent.
It's called "Vocal Fry" And it's an annoying thing, Anyone of any accent can do it, I can do it too, I prefer to speak...Normally, Of course, This thing is...Fairly annoying but you EVENTUALLY get used to it, Every other RUclipsr who copies him does this thing as well, Copying his focal fry.
@@gregutz4284 you need to learn to separate critique of someone you like from personal attacks. You're just making his audience look insecure and defensive, which I mean seems pretty true.
@@gregutz4284 Sounds bigoted of you to think the average Australian sounds that bad.
@@rascal3554 Yeah, that vocal fry is starting to get a bit annoying to see from Sunny and to see copied by others (albeit, Sunny’s stands out more, and that trill does get parodied as well). By itself, it should be fine. But hearing it repeatedly over so many videos with a combo of super-dramatic editing and music makes it more annoying for me.
The potential for long-form content is RUclips's main unique selling point. Video Essays are really great, and are a total U-turn from the predictions that RUclips would eventually only have short-form content. SunnyV2 and channels like his give them a bad name.
even though he is I had never though of his channel as a video essay one...I always thought of it more like a drama channel
@@joelle4226 That's pretty accurate actually, and a drama channel of poor taste at that. Still, 'video essay' is a pretty broad term, so it sorta incudes those 'exposing all the wrongdoings of this person' videos
I agree. TikTok is unbeatable for shortform content, but I come to RUclips to get away from that. To have something long and cozy to watch to erase my brain of all the fast paced short form scrolling.
Wasn't the Short-form Content is getting irrelevant too?
illuminaughtii takes the cake. far worse than sunny V2
THIS IS FROM A YEAR AGO???
i unsubscribed from SunnyV2 quite a while ago after he started clickbaiting by putting people in thumbnails who weren't in the video at all. i don't care how good your video is, if you clickbait i can't respect that.
It’s one of those things where the creator will cloak their actual opinion behind just showing the opinions of others. He shows all those tweets like “this is what people are saying” when everyone watching knows that he most likely agrees with the opinion in the tweet based on how he’s framed the whole issue.
This is a tactic I've seen used before by Stefan Molyneux when trying to hide how much he hates women ("oh this isn't my opinion, it's just a mysoginistic quote for which I will provide no critique or resistance") and it's incredible how effective it is.
It's the Fox News method.
Wendigoon is really good at this just because of his simplicity. No flashy editing, no dramatic music, just a chill guy making an in depth video on topics he likes.
Yeah, Wendigoon's content seems like the product of dozens (likely hundreds) of hours of research/editing. These content farms are nothing in comparison
Wendigoon's videos are boring as hell, he talks unnecessarily slowly and in a monotone voice. He also seems to have a weird obession with religion which puts me off liking him.
@@mangoenjoyer256and you notice how if he's not able to verify a claim or find more info on a topic he'll say so straight away, and it's clear he made every effort to do so
As much as I love Wendigoon, you could argue that his content is extremely lazy as well
So we like low quality now?
@6:22 "His pronouns are she/her!"
at the time of this video being made kris didnt specify what her pronouns were, she came out on the anthony padilla video interviewing her
No they aren’t. That’s a dude
if it’s a dude why did you use they/them pronouns
@@monkeymilk27 because their trying to pretend lmao
@@monkeymilk27 yeah im pretty sure at the time kris went by all pronouns so she could more smoothly transition to she/her
I’m waiting for the SunnyV2 video about the downfall of SunnyV2
I've never seen SunnyV2 as a bad YT figure for one reason only: I forget that he exists. Yes, I watch his videos, but they're so forgettable. I do remember watching most of them, but I genuinely do not remember any of the contents; and this DOES NOT happen with most of the better video essay-ist.
obviously, this is only taking into consideration his style, not how or what he talks about which is clearly controversial, to say the least
I do, because his videos are often on the top recommended when searching a video essay or small docu about someone or something. People then watch it, because he sticks to 20 minutes and won't question if it's actually true. He is very lazy and superficial with his research and tends to grossly gloss over things or even says something outright false.
This comment resonated with me because he was extremely forgettable.. except for Penguinz0 watching him on stream 🤦
I used to watch his videos to game or draw to because of their length, I didn't care what they where about. I don't even remember what any of them where about, maybe the lil'tay one
Sunny is the RUclips content creator equivalent of sunflower oil.
I used to watch a lot of his video back then, when he was focusing on the "Downfall" of a RUclips channel. Mainly because I have a RUclips channel of my own and want to learn about the mistakes of other channels. However, since he started expanding his content towards other stuffs, it became here that his videos are not even essays it's literally a compilation of something, essentially a multiple TikTok Shorts video smash together into 1 long video.
SunnyV2 would be alot more respectable if they would just say their damn opinions. Instead it's like drinking LA tap water
some of them are like drinking flint, michigan tap water
east palestine, ohio tap water
Shoutout to this dude who had the balls to make human contact with LA tap water and even drink it 👍
camp lejeune water
@@cthre LMAOO
awnsering 6:10 sunnyv2 likely uses some cheap filter that turns photos into "art"
SunnyV2 is a stain on Australia, he puts a bad name on my country
god im so happy sunnyv2 is getting his shit rocked
It's funny how he's basically a drama/tea channel, but too coward to admit it.
Must be pretty small rocks.
Sunny will be just fine.
getting his shit rocked, but, not in a good way
its because of his chris video (which is good)
See this is why I love Wendigoon. He has minimal editing but he still manages to captivate the audience with his great delivery and incredible personality.
Didn't he side with Gus Johnson when it came out he basically mistreated Sabrina..?
@@orimengu who even is that
@@RakdosMC Gus Johnson.
@@orimengu oh ffs please tell me that isn’t true i’ll be so disappointed if it is
I love Wendigoon
18:12 As a person from Brooklyn, seeing this video being shot on a New York roof top, with the sounds of my childhood in the background, while you have to acknowledge it all mid video is inspiring 😭
I really don't like Dream, but telling the guy "why didn't you try to monetize your rabid fanbase and haters trying to doxx you?" is downright vile.
My favourite thing about video essays is when people just..slowly become more and more unhinged throughout the entire video
SuperEyepatchWolf's videos are excellent for that, just watching him descend into madness as he talks about Garfield is so entertaining 😂
HBomberguy is my all time favorite video essayist
May I recommend Tantacrul’s video on Sibelius? It’s an absolute masterpiece
CJ The X energy 😅
@@scoobydont they're chaotic from the very beginning lol
Honestly I'm kind of embarrassed by the fact that I enjoyed SunnyV2's videos ("enjoyed" being a loose descriptor since I like to put commentary videos on in the background and never watched his videos with a critical eye/ear). The only time I found anything unusual was the Chris video, but the way Sunny words his scripts and has his videos edited are seriously manipulative, and I only noticed it after his Chris video blew up for being just that.
I had the exact same experience
the video on chris is only one of many shit, suspicious ass videos in his library. dudes a fucking conservative and the way he tries to subtly hide his shitty, bigoted beliefs and fails miserably when someone comes out as something he doesnt like is the most funniest yet cringe thing ever.
yeah me too. I unsubbed after the chris video tho
glad to see I'm not alone there
yeah me too. i like video essay content and i thought his stuff was what i was looking for. once he released the chris video i could barely finish it and moved on from his content. looking back i see how negative and problematic his videos are.
sunnyv2 does essays on shit people have already done and he always seems to end videos in the middle of a thought.
J Aubrey makes great content in my opinion. Probably some of the best video essays around. Obviously, they're not without bias, very few channels are. But I think the videos are very well done.
J aubrey is one of my favourite video essay channels. The videos are at most an hour and a half long and they’re very well researched
J Aubrey's videos are pretty good but his latest thumbnails are a bit scary with the over exaggerated smiles
Really great channel - not sure how many RUclips family expose videos I can keep watching though.
I love that channel as well. I watched a few, they are entertaining and has good sense of humor.
Only real ones remember his old Lego RUclips channel
Coffeezilla is the champ
so many of the channels talked about here like sunnyv2 aren't even really video essays imo. they're just drama/commentary videos rebranded to give the illusion of intelligence. there's no engagement with ideas, art or any media (that'd require thought and creativity). there's barely any point at all. compared to creators like jacob geller or folding ideas they're incredibly hollow. it's just drama lol
The term "video essay" is misused a lot and it bothers me more than it probably should. People look at a video thats over an hour and conclude that because its long it must be a video essay even if its closer to a summary of the source material
I know it’s the whole title, but I like how this video is only maybe 50% about SunnyVtwoooooahhh but that’s all we’re all talking about 😂 also you’re 100% right and I’m 25% dumb
Don’t think rebranding into a video essayist format really gave the illusion of intelligence, most video essayists aren’t really that intelligent either
@@massiveidiot77hat's a really good point- the distinction between commentary and video essays is one i think is like "i know it when i see it" even though they kind of overlap. and the ones you describe that are like big summaries i've seen called "deep dives" but tbh they're more like guides or overviews to a topic
i dont like his vibe
the icon he uses, almost like he considers himself some high iq scholar, elite, so pretentious
as an australian im sorry on behalf of my country on cultivating Sunnyv2
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Thank you SO MUCH for mentioning Jake Tran and iilluminaughtii.
With both I've been noticing how poorly researched they actually are, despite sounding so smart and solid in their convictions. I didn't realise iilluminaughtii is now essentially just pumping out video essays in a practically unsustainable way, but that's a big red flag 😬
I've been super turned off by SunnyV2's videos for a while now and it's interesting seeing this dialogue and understanding more about why it turned me off and how far it reaches.
Yeah that surprised me. I used to watched illuminaughtii a bunch a while back. Had no idea she started pumping out bad videos
I used to watch her stuff all the time, but the quality has gone down so much in the last year or so. Between the poor research and that more than half of them feel like it's just reading from a biased article, it's made it almost unwatchable. Which is a shame because her early anti-MLMA stuff was actually pretty good.
iillumminaughtii turned out to be a pretty shit human too.
Illuminaughtii has been called out for less than stellar behaviour a fair amount of times, im genuinely surprised people still support her
@@kaylee01 yeah, it's been what, 2-3 years since the Cruel World, Happy Mind stuff happened, right? That was the first hint that something was off with her for me. Still watched her vids though up until a year or so ago (love someone beating on MLMs lol), then stopped since the content was getting worse and worse, and now the entire LegalEagle, The Click/Sad Milk, and Discord toxicity shit came up. Reeeeeally makes you see her true colors.
I think my favorite “video essay” channel is Ask A Mortician. Though at times shes slowly become a documentarian in some ways. And I think that’s what good video essays are. They are almost a documentary. They have a purpose and a passion for being made. They have a perspective that had a through line. Ask A Mortician works because she keeps coming back to the concept of respecting those who have died, celebrating them, celebrating culture, and education. Caitlyn does well with her content because it’s her passion project. And while she is different because she has an occupation outside of RUclips, it’s something that sticks with me.
Her content makes me cry, makes me feel, and makes me hurt. I feel emotions that I can’t properly describe when watching her content. And that like you said is the sign of a good “video essayist” it's about making someone feel.
If only you knew how deep this rabbit hole went. Almost NO big public RUclipsrs live without skeletons in their closets, and Ask a Mortician is no exception. She does not treat others well, especially employees.
@@Solaceon bs you must be another commercial mortician who likes bullying ppl into paying more money to embalm their loved ones with incredibly toxic chemicals 🙄😒
Oh but wait let me guess now you'll reply telling me how wrong I am even though literally every one who has ever complained about her is because they got butthurt over her saying mean things about the funeral industry even though there's hundreds of people with personal accounts about how poorly they're treated proving her right.😂
@@Solaceon source?
Trust me bro
Cause it seems like you are just trying to spread rumours
@@CaraTheStrange Yeah, I looked into the claims and it all leads to lolcow.
@@harucanread5310
Thank you for doing the research, if the rumour was true id be very sad as ive watched all caitlin’s videos and read all her books
even ignoring all the shitty ways sunnv2 doesnt fact check literally anything, he's homophobic and transphobic as well, very eager to make a video on someone he just doesnt like because they're LGBTQ+ and constantly misgendering them or labelling them as a nuisance to whoever they're associated with simply because they're trans or gay (like the whole Kris situation)
SunnyV2's content is actual brainrot
THANK YOU! Finally someone points out how cold and disconnected Sunny's analysis is. Like, he only knows how to measure success in terms of view counts and ad revenue. I remember he was covering some youtuber who was making less content because he just got married and had a kid....and Sunny painted that as a "bad decision" because it cost him "half his viewership numbers". It was at that point I realized the dude was either a sociopath or deeply sad and unwell mentally. Imagine thinking that getting married and starting a family is a bad decision because it causes a drop in your youtube views lol
the youtuber big joal made a good video about sunnyv2 a few months back
well that is how you measure success with view count unless on like instagram or something
@@thechurchofwhatitis I mean yeah technically true, but like...Sunny needs to read the room, lol.
@@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 um actually it was little Joel who made the video, weird of you to get these two unrelated creators mixed up 😞
Also, his video on jayus. His conclusion was "they should have never apologized" because he said ignoring the subject would have let people forget about it. But like, people still deserved an apology??
I sometimes watch SunnyV2 because I find the logical flow of his arguments to be comical.
wish I could watch to laugh at the stupidity, but I can’t with his manner of speech (mannahhh ov speeEchaaa...)
@@CantTellYou foot fungus intonation
the funniest is when he pulls a random ass comment on youtube or tiktok that has 3 likes to make his point somehow hold weight. as if a random ass comment on social media is supposed to change my mind lmao
@@stevo999 ong
@@stevo999 What an incredibly weird thing to say. The popularity of an idea or the presenter doesn't in any way, shape or form dictate whether or not it's accurate. An argument should stand or fall on its own merits, not on the merits of the individual presenting it.
Your logic is piss poor.
6:50 kris goes by she/her not he/him
This video is from 8 months ago, she stated at the time he/him pronouns were okay for the time being, it was only after officially changing her name to Kris that she said she goes by she/her exclusively.
Nobody cares. I go by ungyshmungy/boobooshmoobo. Will you respect that just because I really, really want it? Of course not.
Nothing to do with 'really wanting something', she/her, he/him, they/them pronouns are already commonplace to basic societal interactions, and have never been conditional to birth sex. Arguing trans people should be an exception to society norms that already exist is childish grandstanding over a poorly veiled prejudice@@celwenileran2135
@celwenileran2135 bro shut up, you're not funny
@@celwenileran2135 If that’s what you want to be called, sure.
heya! little side comment, at 6:25 you say that Chris coming out as trans is “his choice,” however it’s worded as though you’re saying being trans is a choice (when it’s not), and you call Chris a “he” when her pronouns are she/her. all due respect to you! just thought i’d point that out ^
Hey, just wanna say that chris goes by all pronouns, not just she/her.
@@shurno1588she used to go by any pronouns, but a while ago she said that she prefers she/her
@@largeboi4678 Oh okay , sorry i didn't know that;
He didn't say that, he said he was "well within his right" to come out as trans. Never said anything about choice.
@_anon”decided to come out” as in “decided to tell the audience that she’s trans”