Okay but the amount of times I have literally heard about people talking about trolling like this “It wasn’t aggravated harassment he was just having a funnee silly epic troll moment” ohhhh okay Man trolling was rampant in the 1960s huh Like bro that is just multiple aggressive and targeted criminal acts
It's ok to talk to anyone, who the F#$k are you that the peasants shouldn't address you? lol cause Famous or not, still just a person , take anyone from kings and queens to the homeless and drop them into a room and they are all just the same as one another at the end of the day. I Live in Connecticut and for some reason a lot of famous actors and political people like to buy houses around the area. I've hung out with Dennis Leary by walking into him entering a local fair and just being like hey what's up? And him being like hey man , and reaching out to shake my hand. Alot of the famous people I've met are actually pretty chill and normal down to earth everyday people... Rob Zombie and Sherry Moon have moved to every town surrounding mine and in every town I've hung out with them and literally just chilled out like anyone would with their friends or coworkers. Give a crap less who anyone thinks they are no matter how famous , cause when it all boils down they are no better than u or i.
@@ugouduchukwu4305Logan Paul is a serial scammer, dead body enthusiast, womanizer, abuser, and just a terrible person in general. He kinda deserves it.
@@private755I'm sorry about the nerve of some fucks. You're so brave to be open about this and to be able to go about your life again. My best friend as well as my partner were both stalked and it sounds so horrific. What I wouldn't do to erase those kinds of horrible people from all reality, good lord.
the fact that fidias made me feel bad for elon musk is kind of impressive. no shit the dude who was like “I went to the poorest country in the world for content!!” worships the ground elon walks on
This is the problem “trolling” high profile rich monsters is creating. He’s making people feel bad for them and that makes their crimes feel smaller. He might as well be doing PR for Jimmy and Logan.
There's a movie from the 70s called "The King of Comedy" about a guy who obsessively stalks a famous tv comedian in order to become a celebrity himself. It's supposed to be a satirical take on our obsession with fame as a culture and the lengths people are willing to go to get it. Now these people came along to recreate that plot but this time in their own lives without any consideration that what they're doing could be considered wrong.
I was genuinely confused by the thumbnail and title when I first saw this video, I genuinely thought it was a call out from pinely to Danny, claiming that Danny was one of the people stalking Mr. Beast 😅😅
I've noticed that a lot of things are dismissed when they're famous, paparazzi is a big example, but even things such as them taking upskirt pictures of female celebrities is 'fine' because they're famous (this has been a thing, not sure if it's still common). Basically if you're famous you lose this sense of humanity, not just socially but legally as well
I mean yes but also at least a couple of these people are not even in the same psychological area code as reasoning like that because they are not capable of recognizing stalking behavior as wrong in general, the Elon Musk guy I would bet money has stalked non famous people before and will again, he seems absolutely pathological.
I'll always be bothered by the fact that the guy who quit his job to ask Logan Paul for one was a welder. That's a decent $50-100K/year job where your boss can't suddenly interrupt or choose to micromanage you. There's no way going full time is more conducive to success than a secure financial situation.
Eh a good welder can get another job in a week if they want one. Its not like he threw his mask off a cliff like a samurai throwing his sword and quitting the blade.
If it's not okay to sit outside a stranger's house for 70 days, waiting for a hug, why is it okay to do the same thing if the stranger is a celebrity? I really don't understand what goes on in those people's head. They are a stranger to those celebrities and it's incredibly creepy to be stalked by a complete stranger. You don't know if they are clout chasers, obsessed, or potentially dangerous.
I wonder if it’s related to the bystander effect, only like, reversed. They think if the person is a celebrity, that person must have tons of stalkers and crazy fans, so they’re used to it, thus it’s no big deal (but of course they’re wrong, it is a big deal and very unsettling and dangerous).
It's the endless hunger for clout. They just fail to realize that clout can't be achieved like this. It has to be organic for it to really mean something. You have to do something you love in an entertaining way, and stalking people isn't that (,unless you're deranged). Picture any popular person you actually remember. That actually means something. None of them did this shit to get where they are. They started at the bottom and worked their way up with talent and personality. Taking shortcuts like stalking Mr Beast in pursuit of clout is never the proper way to do things. Never.
"kick-starting" would imply that it keeps going afterwards. It almost never does in this type of situation. You have one big thing, and then everything else flops. It's really sad that this is becoming a "strategy" for people that want to start making content. If any wannabe content creator is reading this -- you have to start your way from the bottom and earn experience climbing up in order to stay there. If you start out like this on the top with nothing but a one-time wonder in your pocket, the wind's going to blow you down and kill you from fall damage. Anyways idk why I typed this out under a 5 month old comment lol
This reminds me of Social Repose a few years ago. He made a joke about if someone found his house, he'd give them a glass of milk. Someone actually took it as a challenge and showed up to his place. The fact the person had a meltdown because he didn't think it was funny was insane. I don't like him and he shouldn't joke like that, but that's too much.
I don’t see how that joke was inherently problematic, he can’t be responsible for every mentally unwell person that may or may not take it seriously. He’s human garbage but that situation really wasn’t his fauly.
@@RedshirtAfficionado you can't be social media famous and tell people to come find your house. What did he think would happen? I'm not blaming him on what happened after tho. You're right though, he is human garbage
@@nunphoYou can’t expect everyone on the internet to have the foresight to think that someone is going to take your innocuous little haha funny seriously enough to actually track you down. That’s a really unreasonable expectation to hold someone to, even if he is an abuser.
@@cooraano you just dont get it empathy is clearly just the capability to read the minds of others and perfectly comprehend the weight of someone’s situation. You ARENT an empath because empaths are totally 100% these super powered human beings capable of all things such as drinking a star bucks latte.
I feel like the reason people don't view this horrific stalking as a bad thing is because it's all platonic rather than romantic/sexual. If someone slept outside another person's house until they kissed them (even on the cheek), people would naturally be digusted, but replace kissing with hugging, and suddenly this massive violation of boundaries is a-ok. It's why people say children are ungrateful when they hate getting hugged without their permission when in reality, the kid has a right to not feel comfortable being hugged. I think more people need to understand that boundaries are important regardless of what they are, and that it doesn't stop at romantic/sexual gestures.
When I was a kid, I was forced to kiss my moms friend on the lips for a photo because she thought it would be cute to post and no one and an issue with that. People are just messed up and don’t care who is hurt if it entertains them
@@Amethyst.i that is so messed up. I'm sorry you had to go through that and it's horrible how no one stood up for you and talked about how wrong that situation is
there are all kinds of stalkers, including those that you mentioned. there are unfortunately a lot of hate stalkers and cyber stalkers who have very sinister intentions from the beginning.
@@matthewcaldwell8100I think OG meant that’s why it not seen _as_ morally apprehensive. Viewed less repulsive coerced a hug than a kiss, therefore somewhat “innocent”
literally a few days ago a customer at my job repeatedly asked me when i got off work, and even though i’d lied to him, i was so scared i had to call my dad to pick me up. even the idea that a stranger might decide to find out where i live had me in tears, so the idea of doing this to someone for a fun cool video is absolutely horrific and beyond comprehension to me. also, god, that first example video was insane; imagine thinking “i want to see the poorest people in the poorest country” is not only a normal thought to have and thing to say, but to actually follow through and go to an ORPHANAGE to do it
Especially because he’s also sharing this information with VIEWERS, reaffirming that methods like this will work and therefore encouraging this sort of behavior, I’m so sorry you had to deal with that experience but it’s hard to imagine how harmful it would be to not only have that person stream the process of finding you but also sharing that with millions, it’s terrifying
It’s not lost on me that these people have the wealth and means to pull these crazy stunts. Like, where are they getting this money? RUclips doesn’t pay “secret game room” money within years of doing videos if ever. These guys have clearly never been told “no” until now and it shows hard
The dude who's doing all the Paul stunts is/was? a welder, and they make crazy money, so he can afford that kinda stuff. The other ones are probably all small time wealthy guys
Or like the one kid who just walks into the bank like "yeah I can get a loan easy peasy." He's probably used to seeing Mommy and Daddy just walk into the bank and walk out with a loan.
This is so not ok. That last guy especially should have been arrested for harassing employees at twitter if nothing else. he should not have been humored with the hug.
i’m honestly surprised that elon’s representatives allowed the hug to happen. if that guy was living on the streets for three months just to meet elon, whether it was for the sake of content or not, i would consider that a massive safety concern and would never put those two in a room together ever. i’m really wondering what the security situation looked like outside of frame bc i refuse to believe that guy was just let upstairs casually to come see elon, one of the most powerful and controversial people in the world right now, without any kind of protection around.
Seriously, one well hidden hypodermic needle and Elon is dead or seriously injured. Not that that'd be a big tragedy. The world would probably be a better place if he wasn't wasting so many resources. But yeah if I was Elon I'd have this dude stripped naked and cavity checked before he came anywhere close to me.
this will also give others a reason to attempt the same. just need to stalk Elon Musk for 70 days and get a whole social media career from it. disturbing and irresponsible in my opinion.
Watching your videos has really made me start to look at what im watching and how certain youtubers film certain things simply because its popular and without moral premice. I had to take a long hard look at how I wanted people to view me on this platform as well and i just want to thank you for making me think in different ways about why im watching certain things that seem so fake and misguided, especially Fidias...
@@heyimneverland8451 rewatching the newest colin and Samir mr beast interview really opened my eyes as well, from jimmys perspective, how crazy people can get.
Fidias also pretended to be homeless and literally stole belongings from actual homeless people. Then pretended to be a traveler in destress to get people to give him stuff like money. That could have gone to someone actually in need. Not someone who's already well off.
I forgot the name of the RUclipsr off the top of my head, but there’s a latam RUclipsr who’s a known Tom holland stalker and is often rewarded for it by getting to interview him at least a couple times iirc and stuff like that. He has Tom hollands daily routine memorized down to the minute so he would know when Tom would be in his hotel or home vs outside somewhere else, it was terrifying
I think it's pretty important to note that this is not new, people have been stalking celebrities for a very very long time and this is just what it looks like in the internet age. Kind of insane.
Yeah I think a big difference is that people are now getting famous and making money off being stalkers. That wasn't really a thing that happened before. Also youtubers are generally much smaller celebs and have much less access to proper security and often less familiarity with interacting with fans. So you have people who are basically just normal people, some with not even that big of a following, dealing with stalkers and weird parasocial nonsense.
People need to realize that their favorite RUclipsr is not their friend. The RUclipsr doesn't know who you are, or even really care about you. Just because you watch their content religiously doesn't mean there is any connection between you two. Yeah, theoretically you COULD become friends with the RUclipsr, but you could also theoretically win the lottery. Aka, it's something that's not going to happen.
i think some youtubers/content creators have convinced themselves that they're entitled to anything. y'know, "i'm doing it for content so it's totally okay to do literally whatever i want". they fully believe that they are the main characters and can run around stalking people and breaking shit like a video game character
Danny is one of the best people for this video bc he's so relatively normal (compared to other creators). Seeing him get deeply uncomfortable at this really put this into perspective for me.
It's actually pretty amazing that he could kick open a door and scare the shit out of his girlfriend, causing her to scream, but it is somehow neither funny or even noteworthy because literally everything is at 11/10. I have the same, glazed over eyes look on my face thru every second of his video clips.
I've been watching for about two years now, and I love seeing how far Pinely's grown with being on camera. Seeing his confidence improve and leaving the box pngtuber days aside is heartwarming. Keep it up!! ❤
Yeah, poor (former) richest man in the world :( I don't feel bad for him, he's actually human garbage and all the stuff he's done he absolutely deserves it. If he buddies up with fascists who stalk, kill, and make minorities in general, LGBTQ people, and especially trans & GNC peoples lives a living nightmare, he can get stalked all day long. He stokes the flames of extremists who absolutely jump at the chance and celebrate when trans people are harassed at their own events with actual violence and firearms instead of a stupid kid who wants a hug. It isn't so fun when the shoes on the other foot is it?
Its funny that you mention Fidias and Airrack in the same video. Fidias built up his channel from basically stalking Airrack until Airrack finally accepted a gift off him then branched off after being a side character for a year.
its wilddd to me how casual people are with ignoring boundaries when it comes to content creators, especially big ones like mr beast and logan paul etc.
One of the worse things about this genre of video in my opinion is that they are also essentially making step-by-step tutorials for stalking. They probably don't mean to do this, but they sure are.
Wow, so women have spend decades trying to convey that no = no and unlike what the (mostly male) writers in Hollywood will have you believe, it is not an invitation to keep trying. But here comes Fidias, showing you that even one of the most influential people in the US will give you what you want if you just persist until you're forced to stop. I guess he's the type to watch "I am a stalker" and roots for the guy who ties down the parents of his obsession.
When I was a kid I emailed a RUclipsr just to tell them I love their content and felt inspired to create my own channel because of them and I felt like a crazy person afterwards. I can’t imagine doing something so crazy as a full grown adult, these people are just crazy
This stunt was ideal for Musk. He looks like the victim and like someone is maniacally obsessed with him. I’d have hoped that all these stalkers’ channels would be shut down for ToS, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I also imagine there was legal recourse, but instead, Elon (and the other two) gave the aggressors what they wanted. Feels like more kayfabe to me.
The worst kind of content is the kind where they do something reprehensible and creepy and then turn around and they're like "This is proof of how bad this culture is! I'm just making a point" Like yeah, okay. Make your point, and make a couple of bucks in the process. No big deal.
“Airrack seems like a nice dude” Let’s see he 1. Polluted a lake and almost got someone fired 2. Said he was gonna donate 10,000 dollars to a place where the economy is absolutely TERRIBLE and didn’t 3. Had a pilot ask for anonymity but he used his real name and said it was a fake name 4. Trash talked said pilot for things he didn’t even do and 5. Instead of going to the place where the economy is sh** instead hung out at a resort. That was all in two two part videos.
90% of the time I’m like “why are people in America so obsessed with their guns” and the other 10% of the time I’m like “oh… oh yeah okay I can see why”
No one here's gonna talk about the Mr.Beast scandal especially with it being broken by a large publication? (Also this is no shade to the creators in this video I think overall the message of this video is still valid)
This is kind of what stalker "fans in korea do to idols. They're called sasaeng over there, but the difference is they dont post their doings *AS* publicly. Some post pictures and talk about it in tweets, I think, but I've yet to see any of them try to monetize it by making a RUclips channel for everyone to see.
Fun fact: my mom used to work for Elon Musk’s brother, and May Musk gave all the employees a gift once for some reason. What was the gift, you ask? HER OWN BOOK. She gave a copy of her own book about herself to all of her son’s employees. 💀
This is like paparazzi but for RUclipsrs. If the paparazzi could buy a couch from Britanny Spears and go into her home, filming, you know they would. Edit: couch not cough
Calling Elon Musk the "coolest person in the world" is already cringe enough, but camping outside Twitter and SpaceX for over 2 month just to get a hug, and then cry when you finally get it, is f-ing insane.
The way these people rationalize their stalking for views is so creepy. It normalizes unhealthy obsessive behavior as "just a big fan" behavior. Also shows how easy it is to be stalked and how hard it is to actually stop stalkers from reaching their target
All I imagined was: the guy being stuck in the truck for 2 hours, passing away and Logan Paul filming him - you know, because he filmed a dead body before... I'll see myself out
The montage of Logan, Beast and Elon shirtless at the end was top tier editing 😂 but in all honesty, parasocial relationships are terrifying of they reach stalker level...
I think it would've been a good bit, if Pinely was at Danny's house. Imagine he walks into to the room at the end, and starts making fun of Mr. Beast clones.
All the people who "started from the bottom" are usually already wealthy. Was his loan from one of his parents by chance? The fact he filmed the bank makes me think he got a loan from his parents.
I gotta say, being someone who has created videos since literally year one of RUclips's existence, where for years I couldn't get any of my friends to act in parody skits with me "because it's so stupid and lame" to seeing the lengths these strange, strange children (I'm almost 40, everyone under 25 is a child to me) go for a "viral video" is such a bizarre feeling.
This reminds me of the last audio book I recorded. The audition script made it sound like it was about a kid finding himself, but it turned out to be an archive of dms this kid sent to a singer who never responded. I kept waiting for him to gain any self-awareness, but he saw the silence as evidence from God of this poor girl's love. It was unhinged! The worst part is I never got paid for it.
I thought it was pretty clear that what the cutout guy was doing, was about how bad the stalking is, literally the tweet before the cutout image was " I just bought a cardboard cutout of @RyanTrahan and I’m flying to Greenville tomorrow to give it to @MrBeast Is this stupid? Yes. Will this video be a narrative on unhealthy “jumpstart RUclips” tactics? Absolutely "
wait, I'm confused. I don't know of any of these people, so I really don't have the context but: the guy wanted to talk about how bad stalking people for clout is.... by stalking someone? he couldn't just.... talk about it?
Not like it makes it right. He is still exploiting the system, while saying "look how absurd the system is?" Like, he would still get (and got) views, clout, etc, by doing that. He can say he did to prove a point, but he still wanted to do it and get the benefits of it either way
I am not really sure how this Tweet shows that this was his intention tbh. It sounds like the intro to a Mr. Beast-ified video. Not a video about how bad stalking celebrities is. Like how does this whole thing even show it? Because he wasn't able to get to Mr. Beast? Or because Mr. Beast responded annoyed? Like nothing he did showed anything about the culture. He just DID it. Nothing more, nothing less.
This is a secret between you and me, but I have a second channel:
ruclips.net/video/KK7EsPXxWgw/видео.html
No you don't, thats evil pinely you fraud. God.
well i know now
@@bobjohn8581 no itll just bring the Matthew of the beam
Onma island is buried a treasure chest
So excited to see more George Bluth content ❤
“Your honor, my client wasn’t ‘stalking them.’ They were simply the target of his epic months-long trolling.”
Lmao
"Well, if it was, officially, a 'prank', there's nothing i can do about it"
~The judge, maybe
Okay but the amount of times I have literally heard about people talking about trolling like this
“It wasn’t aggravated harassment he was just having a funnee silly epic troll moment” ohhhh okay
Man trolling was rampant in the 1960s huh
Like bro that is just multiple aggressive and targeted criminal acts
@@Lucifersfursona that's the joke :)
HA!
It is disgusting that people think it's ok to stalk someone just because they are famous.
It's ok to talk to anyone, who the F#$k are you that the peasants shouldn't address you? lol cause Famous or not, still just a person , take anyone from kings and queens to the homeless and drop them into a room and they are all just the same as one another at the end of the day. I Live in Connecticut and for some reason a lot of famous actors and political people like to buy houses around the area. I've hung out with Dennis Leary by walking into him entering a local fair and just being like hey what's up? And him being like hey man , and reaching out to shake my hand. Alot of the famous people I've met are actually pretty chill and normal down to earth everyday people... Rob Zombie and Sherry Moon have moved to every town surrounding mine and in every town I've hung out with them and literally just chilled out like anyone would with their friends or coworkers. Give a crap less who anyone thinks they are no matter how famous , cause when it all boils down they are no better than u or i.
@@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526 Did you read it wrong? 😥 they said stalk not talk :3
@@berrygashes no they read it right. they're offended that someone figured out they've been stalking rob zombie and sherry moon /j
@@berrygashes l yeah i thought it said talk lmfao
@@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526 try hard
It’s really sad watching Danny get legitimately bummed out about this potentially happening to him.
I should find him and console him in person ☹️
@@skateblind90maybe bring him a present too 😂
I feel bad for Danny even agreeing to be in this video
@@jeremycheetham3605damn why
@@ashleycheshier7820 don’t forget about asking for a hug too! I’m sure it’d comfort him 🥰
(Disclaimer bc this is the internet, that was a joke)
"Target of my trolling" my brother in christ you're harassing and stalking a man
yea but logan paul
@@SirCat07logan has done some bad shit but that doesn't mean he should be stalked
@@ugouduchukwu4305Logan Paul is a serial scammer, dead body enthusiast, womanizer, abuser, and just a terrible person in general. He kinda deserves it.
"my brother in christ, you should be hiring a lawyer"
@@ugouduchukwu4305 come on, what Airrack did is creepy but isn't even that bad, while this dude scammed millions of dollars out of people
As someone who has been stalked it’s so creepy and unsettling that people are pretending it’s adorable to base their careers off it
Yea I know a few people who have been and these people making it look like a fun challenge are, just wrong.
That sounds awful, I hope you're doing* better now.
@@PePearGaactually my worst stalker did try to murder me but yes very funny joke hah hah
@@PePearGayou aren’t funny
@@private755I'm sorry about the nerve of some fucks. You're so brave to be open about this and to be able to go about your life again. My best friend as well as my partner were both stalked and it sounds so horrific. What I wouldn't do to erase those kinds of horrible people from all reality, good lord.
So nice of Pinely to be friends with and platform small creators like Danny Gonzalez and the Annoying Orange. What a good guy!
lol
have never been more pumped to see a youtuber collab on my front page. so glad pinely is sharing such small creators with the world 🥰😋💯
danny is not a small creator xD
@@Pvtjoker122really? i didn’t notice
@@Pvtjoker122no way
Just when you think your faith in humanity can’t get any lower, leave it to pinely and danny to introduce you to a new flavor of psychopaths
Honestly, I mean the way pinely wants to stalk Danny is creepy
@@germyz he doesnt want to, he HAS to.
@@axoshlotl2255 oh shoot, I should just like him!
Why hello Robert
Isn’t psychopath a little harsh
the fact that fidias made me feel bad for elon musk is kind of impressive. no shit the dude who was like “I went to the poorest country in the world for content!!” worships the ground elon walks on
Same. Never thought I would feel bad for Musky, but here we are.
its crazy he did that to someone who is rich, famous and successful enough to get him killed and cover it 😭😭😭😭
I think I'm most upset by the fact he made me pity Elongated Muskrat
Proves that literally NO ONE deserves that.
This is the problem “trolling” high profile rich monsters is creating. He’s making people feel bad for them and that makes their crimes feel smaller.
He might as well be doing PR for Jimmy and Logan.
There's a movie from the 70s called "The King of Comedy" about a guy who obsessively stalks a famous tv comedian in order to become a celebrity himself. It's supposed to be a satirical take on our obsession with fame as a culture and the lengths people are willing to go to get it. Now these people came along to recreate that plot but this time in their own lives without any consideration that what they're doing could be considered wrong.
Yeah the fidias videos gave me heavy king of comedy vibes
Wasn’t the Joker movie plot with DeNiro’s character kind of based on that movie?
There's a little indie film from 2019 called "the joker", you might've heard of it. It's inspired by the king of comedy.
I like how the title implies that Pinely and Danny stalk Mr. Beast
I was genuinely confused by the thumbnail and title when I first saw this video, I genuinely thought it was a call out from pinely to Danny, claiming that Danny was one of the people stalking Mr. Beast 😅😅
for a second i thought danny made a video out of stalking mr beast and was getting called out
I genuinly avoided this video for a lil bit cause i was misled 😅
@@subject1449me too!
I really thought they were 😭
Their whole reason as to why this is normal is basically: "Your honor, they're famous, so therefore stalking is okay." Honestly so creepy.
All I can think of is Selina. Or John Lennon. Fuck this shit.
I've noticed that a lot of things are dismissed when they're famous, paparazzi is a big example, but even things such as them taking upskirt pictures of female celebrities is 'fine' because they're famous (this has been a thing, not sure if it's still common).
Basically if you're famous you lose this sense of humanity, not just socially but legally as well
Bro used the drake defense 😭😭😭
I mean yes but also at least a couple of these people are not even in the same psychological area code as reasoning like that because they are not capable of recognizing stalking behavior as wrong in general, the Elon Musk guy I would bet money has stalked non famous people before and will again, he seems absolutely pathological.
I'll always be bothered by the fact that the guy who quit his job to ask Logan Paul for one was a welder. That's a decent $50-100K/year job where your boss can't suddenly interrupt or choose to micromanage you. There's no way going full time is more conducive to success than a secure financial situation.
Eh a good welder can get another job in a week if they want one. Its not like he threw his mask off a cliff like a samurai throwing his sword and quitting the blade.
Maybe he didn’t like being a welder and likes making videos
But he wanted to be an influencerrrrrrrrrrrr he's never made one video other than this and he wants to he famouuuuuuuuuus
@@destrious8133you'll understand when ur older. Most people want a more freeing job. If he fails he'll just go back to welding work
@@pugness personally I'd prefer to be able to pay my rent
‘The American dream is you start off rich and then you end up very rich’
Never heard a more real statement
If it's not okay to sit outside a stranger's house for 70 days, waiting for a hug, why is it okay to do the same thing if the stranger is a celebrity? I really don't understand what goes on in those people's head. They are a stranger to those celebrities and it's incredibly creepy to be stalked by a complete stranger. You don't know if they are clout chasers, obsessed, or potentially dangerous.
I wonder if it’s related to the bystander effect, only like, reversed. They think if the person is a celebrity, that person must have tons of stalkers and crazy fans, so they’re used to it, thus it’s no big deal (but of course they’re wrong, it is a big deal and very unsettling and dangerous).
a stranger’s place of work* although that absolutely isnt any better
edit: oh wait i thought u meant the Elon fan not the Logan one, sorry
It's the endless hunger for clout. They just fail to realize that clout can't be achieved like this. It has to be organic for it to really mean something. You have to do something you love in an entertaining way, and stalking people isn't that (,unless you're deranged).
Picture any popular person you actually remember. That actually means something. None of them did this shit to get where they are. They started at the bottom and worked their way up with talent and personality. Taking shortcuts like stalking Mr Beast in pursuit of clout is never the proper way to do things. Never.
The guy who bought the couches' logic is wild. "Your honour, I wasn't actually trespassing because I own my shoes, so I was always on my own property"
The term social hacking is really fitting. These people are kickstarting their influencer career by cutting out normal social behavior.
"kick-starting" would imply that it keeps going afterwards. It almost never does in this type of situation. You have one big thing, and then everything else flops. It's really sad that this is becoming a "strategy" for people that want to start making content. If any wannabe content creator is reading this -- you have to start your way from the bottom and earn experience climbing up in order to stay there. If you start out like this on the top with nothing but a one-time wonder in your pocket, the wind's going to blow you down and kill you from fall damage.
Anyways idk why I typed this out under a 5 month old comment lol
This reminds me of Social Repose a few years ago. He made a joke about if someone found his house, he'd give them a glass of milk. Someone actually took it as a challenge and showed up to his place. The fact the person had a meltdown because he didn't think it was funny was insane. I don't like him and he shouldn't joke like that, but that's too much.
Yeah, that person wasn't well and ended up taking their own life
I don’t see how that joke was inherently problematic, he can’t be responsible for every mentally unwell person that may or may not take it seriously. He’s human garbage but that situation really wasn’t his fauly.
@@RedshirtAfficionado you can't be social media famous and tell people to come find your house. What did he think would happen? I'm not blaming him on what happened after tho.
You're right though, he is human garbage
I mean I'm not trying to blame him or anything but why offer up such a challenge then get shocked when someone takes you up on it?😭
@@nunphoYou can’t expect everyone on the internet to have the foresight to think that someone is going to take your innocuous little haha funny seriously enough to actually track you down. That’s a really unreasonable expectation to hold someone to, even if he is an abuser.
youtubers need to stop going after mrbeast because i don’t want these clout chasers in my nice quiet north carolina 😭
Douchebags need to leave people alone. Prank yourselves
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There's An Intruder Inside Your Home.
Props for making me feel sympathy for Logan Paul! Maybe I am an empath.
i'm not sure supernatural empathy would help. maybe if you were blind in one eye and didn't speak very good english lol
We all are "empaths". Those of us who seriously cannot feel any empathy usually have a mental illness (like psychopathy) 😄
I understood that reference
@@cooraano you just dont get it empathy is clearly just the capability to read the minds of others and perfectly comprehend the weight of someone’s situation. You ARENT an empath because empaths are totally 100% these super powered human beings capable of all things such as drinking a star bucks latte.
Just like Shane Dawson
I feel like the reason people don't view this horrific stalking as a bad thing is because it's all platonic rather than romantic/sexual. If someone slept outside another person's house until they kissed them (even on the cheek), people would naturally be digusted, but replace kissing with hugging, and suddenly this massive violation of boundaries is a-ok. It's why people say children are ungrateful when they hate getting hugged without their permission when in reality, the kid has a right to not feel comfortable being hugged. I think more people need to understand that boundaries are important regardless of what they are, and that it doesn't stop at romantic/sexual gestures.
When I was a kid, I was forced to kiss my moms friend on the lips for a photo because she thought it would be cute to post and no one and an issue with that. People are just messed up and don’t care who is hurt if it entertains them
@@Amethyst.i that is so messed up. I'm sorry you had to go through that and it's horrible how no one stood up for you and talked about how wrong that situation is
there are all kinds of stalkers, including those that you mentioned. there are unfortunately a lot of hate stalkers and cyber stalkers who have very sinister intentions from the beginning.
That's not true. People understand the psychological fixation is the problem and that it being Platonic is just the character of the fixation.
@@matthewcaldwell8100I think OG meant that’s why it not seen _as_ morally apprehensive. Viewed less repulsive coerced a hug than a kiss, therefore somewhat “innocent”
literally a few days ago a customer at my job repeatedly asked me when i got off work, and even though i’d lied to him, i was so scared i had to call my dad to pick me up. even the idea that a stranger might decide to find out where i live had me in tears, so the idea of doing this to someone for a fun cool video is absolutely horrific and beyond comprehension to me.
also, god, that first example video was insane; imagine thinking “i want to see the poorest people in the poorest country” is not only a normal thought to have and thing to say, but to actually follow through and go to an ORPHANAGE to do it
It's worse. He was INDIGNANT when he found out they weren't going to let him in and badgered them for about 3 hours before they let him in
Especially because he’s also sharing this information with VIEWERS, reaffirming that methods like this will work and therefore encouraging this sort of behavior, I’m so sorry you had to deal with that experience but it’s hard to imagine how harmful it would be to not only have that person stream the process of finding you but also sharing that with millions, it’s terrifying
It’s not lost on me that these people have the wealth and means to pull these crazy stunts. Like, where are they getting this money? RUclips doesn’t pay “secret game room” money within years of doing videos if ever. These guys have clearly never been told “no” until now and it shows hard
The dude who's doing all the Paul stunts is/was? a welder, and they make crazy money, so he can afford that kinda stuff. The other ones are probably all small time wealthy guys
Or like the one kid who just walks into the bank like "yeah I can get a loan easy peasy."
He's probably used to seeing Mommy and Daddy just walk into the bank and walk out with a loan.
This is so not ok. That last guy especially should have been arrested for harassing employees at twitter if nothing else. he should not have been humored with the hug.
i’m honestly surprised that elon’s representatives allowed the hug to happen. if that guy was living on the streets for three months just to meet elon, whether it was for the sake of content or not, i would consider that a massive safety concern and would never put those two in a room together ever. i’m really wondering what the security situation looked like outside of frame bc i refuse to believe that guy was just let upstairs casually to come see elon, one of the most powerful and controversial people in the world right now, without any kind of protection around.
I feel like Elon ignores his team’s recommendations all the time when he thinks something will be funny or fuel his ego
I would be concerned that more deranged people would start stalking him
@@Forestfreud not to wish death on anyone, HOWEVER, i hope this gets him got
Seriously, one well hidden hypodermic needle and Elon is dead or seriously injured. Not that that'd be a big tragedy. The world would probably be a better place if he wasn't wasting so many resources. But yeah if I was Elon I'd have this dude stripped naked and cavity checked before he came anywhere close to me.
this will also give others a reason to attempt the same. just need to stalk Elon Musk for 70 days and get a whole social media career from it. disturbing and irresponsible in my opinion.
Kind of you to lend this Danny kid some clout. Always good to support the youngsters.
love your profile pic!!!!!
@@FileCode1459 nitw rulz ok
Watching your videos has really made me start to look at what im watching and how certain youtubers film certain things simply because its popular and without moral premice. I had to take a long hard look at how I wanted people to view me on this platform as well and i just want to thank you for making me think in different ways about why im watching certain things that seem so fake and misguided, especially Fidias...
Me too I’ve actually been watching him for awhile as well as a couple other RUclipsrs like him and it’s rly opened my eyes to media I consume etc
@@heyimneverland8451 rewatching the newest colin and Samir mr beast interview really opened my eyes as well, from jimmys perspective, how crazy people can get.
Fidias also pretended to be homeless and literally stole belongings from actual homeless people. Then pretended to be a traveler in destress to get people to give him stuff like money. That could have gone to someone actually in need. Not someone who's already well off.
This has made me feel sorry for people I've never though I'll feel sorry for. Being famous is creepy af.
i actually feel sympathy for elon musk right now. this man has done the impossible
I forgot the name of the RUclipsr off the top of my head, but there’s a latam RUclipsr who’s a known Tom holland stalker and is often rewarded for it by getting to interview him at least a couple times iirc and stuff like that. He has Tom hollands daily routine memorized down to the minute so he would know when Tom would be in his hotel or home vs outside somewhere else, it was terrifying
That’s so terrible oh my god
I think maybe Andrés Navy? The guy is obsessed with marvel I think
@@tamagochi_egg YES TY youre right it was Andrés navy
I think it's pretty important to note that this is not new, people have been stalking celebrities for a very very long time and this is just what it looks like in the internet age. Kind of insane.
Remember the classic "good morning Kanye" video?
Yeah I think a big difference is that people are now getting famous and making money off being stalkers. That wasn't really a thing that happened before.
Also youtubers are generally much smaller celebs and have much less access to proper security and often less familiarity with interacting with fans. So you have people who are basically just normal people, some with not even that big of a following, dealing with stalkers and weird parasocial nonsense.
now they can make a career of being a stalker. what a wonderful time to be alive ☺️
I like how they say "like stalkers" despite being actual stalkers
Woah, what are the odds that we’d both be stalking Drew Gooden right now (for clout)
People need to realize that their favorite RUclipsr is not their friend. The RUclipsr doesn't know who you are, or even really care about you. Just because you watch their content religiously doesn't mean there is any connection between you two. Yeah, theoretically you COULD become friends with the RUclipsr, but you could also theoretically win the lottery. Aka, it's something that's not going to happen.
Exactly!
i think some youtubers/content creators have convinced themselves that they're entitled to anything. y'know, "i'm doing it for content so it's totally okay to do literally whatever i want". they fully believe that they are the main characters and can run around stalking people and breaking shit like a video game character
This aged. i dont know, if it aged bad or good, but it sure as hell aged.
Wdym?
@@winny._probably that all the people who were stalked turned out to be the absolute worst, themselves.
The title makes it sound like Danny is stalking Mebeast
thumbnail too
Not a gotcha moment
bold of you to assume he's not
Hebeast
Mehuman
I know it's a typo but "Mebeast" is very funny to me
Danny is one of the best people for this video bc he's so relatively normal (compared to other creators). Seeing him get deeply uncomfortable at this really put this into perspective for me.
It's actually pretty amazing that he could kick open a door and scare the shit out of his girlfriend, causing her to scream, but it is somehow neither funny or even noteworthy because literally everything is at 11/10. I have the same, glazed over eyes look on my face thru every second of his video clips.
Best crossover episode 🌟
Would have been better if you were in it
NIKKIIII
OMG HI NIKKI
Thank you for knocking a few years off my life from second hand embarrassment! Great video! loved the editing.
I've been watching for about two years now, and I love seeing how far Pinely's grown with being on camera. Seeing his confidence improve and leaving the box pngtuber days aside is heartwarming. Keep it up!! ❤
I forgot about his box days !! he’s genuinely developed sm as a creator
I hope the box comes back for April Fool's Day next year
I feel that Fidias stalking Elon Musk is a way to karmaically balance the exploiting starving orphans. I support him annoying Elon if nothing else.
why is it a karma tho? the money he got from making videos goes back to feeding and giving to people. if anything, i think he did a good thing.
Lmfao Elon deserves to get harassed and more.
Yeah, but stalking is too far. Annoying him would just be not using anything he makes, and taking away his income.
Yeah, poor (former) richest man in the world :(
I don't feel bad for him, he's actually human garbage and all the stuff he's done he absolutely deserves it. If he buddies up with fascists who stalk, kill, and make minorities in general, LGBTQ people, and especially trans & GNC peoples lives a living nightmare, he can get stalked all day long. He stokes the flames of extremists who absolutely jump at the chance and celebrate when trans people are harassed at their own events with actual violence and firearms instead of a stupid kid who wants a hug. It isn't so fun when the shoes on the other foot is it?
@@R.K_Chalkboardstalking isn't too far. elon musk has done irreparable harm to society
Its funny that you mention Fidias and Airrack in the same video. Fidias built up his channel from basically stalking Airrack until Airrack finally accepted a gift off him then branched off after being a side character for a year.
Finally my two favourite RUclipsrs ( Drew gooden and pinely) making a video together!!
didn't both drew and danny say that that joke is worn out by now
@@biggestastiest it is
Oh yeah I remember this guy, he drew good in art class
If u can annoy logan paul you’re really something
its wilddd to me how casual people are with ignoring boundaries when it comes to content creators, especially big ones like mr beast and logan paul etc.
One of the worse things about this genre of video in my opinion is that they are also essentially making step-by-step tutorials for stalking. They probably don't mean to do this, but they sure are.
I SURPRISED PINELY WITH A POLITE “hello I like your videos” NOT CLICKBAIT
respecting youtubers' personal space and privacy for clout (not clickbait) (gone normal)
@@mammoneymelon love it
Wow, so women have spend decades trying to convey that no = no and unlike what the (mostly male) writers in Hollywood will have you believe, it is not an invitation to keep trying. But here comes Fidias, showing you that even one of the most influential people in the US will give you what you want if you just persist until you're forced to stop. I guess he's the type to watch "I am a stalker" and roots for the guy who ties down the parents of his obsession.
Exactly.
I feel insane for having emailed a youtuber once, I can't imagine how anyone does these things. Do they have literally zero self awareness?
When I was a kid I emailed a RUclipsr just to tell them I love their content and felt inspired to create my own channel because of them and I felt like a crazy person afterwards. I can’t imagine doing something so crazy as a full grown adult, these people are just crazy
"Persistence is very important. Don't stop" is such a creepy lesson in this context
It's so kind of Pinely to feature a small content creator like Danny on the channel. Kudos!
I cannot tell you how absolutely shocked I was to see this collab 😭 absolutely thrilled
ME TOO!! I WAS ECSTATIC
Can’t wait for Pinely to finally start stalking Drew
Im very much not a fan of logan paul but its still creepy ass fuck how they try to make stalking something quirky or funny
Pinely, I’m outside your house with a cardboard of me hugging you please let me in! (I also have your old car with Matthew Beem in it)
i hope he lets you in 🥰
imagine wasting 3 months of your life to hug someone like elon musk of all people
This stunt was ideal for Musk. He looks like the victim and like someone is maniacally obsessed with him.
I’d have hoped that all these stalkers’ channels would be shut down for ToS, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also imagine there was legal recourse, but instead, Elon (and the other two) gave the aggressors what they wanted. Feels like more kayfabe to me.
Thank you Pinely for making me realize that the internet is indeed a mistake.
It’s amazing the amount of people defending stalking (a crime) in the comments because they don’t like the person being stalked.
It's almost like it's incredibly cathartic to watch bad things happen to bad people
Having sixteenleo and drew Gooden collab was great.
PLS 😭😭😭
unrelated to the v ideo, but do you want a giant penny (not for clout)
man carrying giant penny
oh so that's the thing youre carrying
What is the estimated market value for this giant penny?
@@theangrycockatiel71182 cents
@@theangrycockatiel71181
My life is officially complete with this collab.
The worst kind of content is the kind where they do something reprehensible and creepy and then turn around and they're like "This is proof of how bad this culture is! I'm just making a point" Like yeah, okay. Make your point, and make a couple of bucks in the process. No big deal.
“Airrack seems like a nice dude” Let’s see he 1. Polluted a lake and almost got someone fired 2. Said he was gonna donate 10,000 dollars to a place where the economy is absolutely TERRIBLE and didn’t 3. Had a pilot ask for anonymity but he used his real name and said it was a fake name 4. Trash talked said pilot for things he didn’t even do and 5. Instead of going to the place where the economy is sh** instead hung out at a resort. That was all in two two part videos.
Such an amazing human being! 😊
Ok I did NOT expect that the guy was gonna get the hug.
so this is why danny hasn't uploaded a new video, Pinely has him.
90% of the time I’m like “why are people in America so obsessed with their guns” and the other 10% of the time I’m like “oh… oh yeah okay I can see why”
I feel so sorry for this dude, mainly because he somehow convinced himself that Elon Musk is a good person to idolize
ok, this is the funniest take, holy shit
"We're sitting outside his house like stalkers" you... you can leave out the 'like' part of that, my friend
the second hand embarrassment was so strong, I almost didn't finish the video 💀
fidian needs to be put on a list asap
Elon kinda deserves it
How kind of Pinely to give smaller youtubers like Drew Gooden a platform!
No one here's gonna talk about the Mr.Beast scandal especially with it being broken by a large publication? (Also this is no shade to the creators in this video I think overall the message of this video is still valid)
This is kind of what stalker "fans in korea do to idols. They're called sasaeng over there, but the difference is they dont post their doings *AS* publicly. Some post pictures and talk about it in tweets, I think, but I've yet to see any of them try to monetize it by making a RUclips channel for everyone to see.
Wait until Danny gets to see the stuffed animals I made out of his hair clippings he's thrown away over the years!
Fun fact: my mom used to work for Elon Musk’s brother, and May Musk gave all the employees a gift once for some reason. What was the gift, you ask? HER OWN BOOK. She gave a copy of her own book about herself to all of her son’s employees. 💀
This is like paparazzi but for RUclipsrs. If the paparazzi could buy a couch from Britanny Spears and go into her home, filming, you know they would.
Edit: couch not cough
Calling Elon Musk the "coolest person in the world" is already cringe enough, but camping outside Twitter and SpaceX for over 2 month just to get a hug, and then cry when you finally get it, is f-ing insane.
The way these people rationalize their stalking for views is so creepy. It normalizes unhealthy obsessive behavior as "just a big fan" behavior. Also shows how easy it is to be stalked and how hard it is to actually stop stalkers from reaching their target
All I imagined was: the guy being stuck in the truck for 2 hours, passing away and Logan Paul filming him - you know, because he filmed a dead body before...
I'll see myself out
The montage of Logan, Beast and Elon shirtless at the end was top tier editing 😂 but in all honesty, parasocial relationships are terrifying of they reach stalker level...
I loved the part where Danny said "it's almost like some kind of Mr beastification of youtube" and beasted all over the place.
so glad i discovered ur channel this is my humor
My body is ready for another Pinely classic
I think it would've been a good bit, if Pinely was at Danny's house. Imagine he walks into to the room at the end, and starts making fun of Mr. Beast clones.
So great to see two content creators that I really like working together like this.
All the people who "started from the bottom" are usually already wealthy.
Was his loan from one of his parents by chance?
The fact he filmed the bank makes me think he got a loan from his parents.
fidias is proof not everyone was meant to be a youtuber 😭
Boom 2 mill subs
That fidias dude is the most innocently evil guy i've ever seen ✋️💀
Nice touch using “Americas Most Blunted” on loop. Idk why it’s a nice touch but I like it so it’s a nice touch
16:58 this is literally like when Josh got a restraining order from Oprah on Drake & Josh, but in real life.
i love how uncomfortable danny is at some points of the vid, i feel so bad for him 😭💀
Mr beast telling people to go away is fucking prime
Had to hit like after the first bit between you and Danny. Excellent bit and wonderful edit!
I gotta say, being someone who has created videos since literally year one of RUclips's existence, where for years I couldn't get any of my friends to act in parody skits with me "because it's so stupid and lame" to seeing the lengths these strange, strange children (I'm almost 40, everyone under 25 is a child to me) go for a "viral video" is such a bizarre feeling.
God, I'd forgotten about the orphanage thing. And that's before you even started talking about the stalking.
"i suprise Pinley with a custom knife" Danny's humor never fails to make me laugh
This reminds me of the last audio book I recorded. The audition script made it sound like it was about a kid finding himself, but it turned out to be an archive of dms this kid sent to a singer who never responded. I kept waiting for him to gain any self-awareness, but he saw the silence as evidence from God of this poor girl's love. It was unhinged! The worst part is I never got paid for it.
What book was it??
What the actual fuck??
Sorry but the “I never got paid for it” got a snicker out of me.
I thought it was pretty clear that what the cutout guy was doing, was about how bad the stalking is, literally the tweet before the cutout image was
" I just bought a cardboard cutout of @RyanTrahan and I’m flying to Greenville tomorrow to give it to @MrBeast
Is this stupid? Yes.
Will this video be a narrative on unhealthy “jumpstart RUclips” tactics?
Absolutely "
wait, I'm confused. I don't know of any of these people, so I really don't have the context but:
the guy wanted to talk about how bad stalking people for clout is.... by stalking someone? he couldn't just.... talk about it?
Not like it makes it right.
He is still exploiting the system, while saying "look how absurd the system is?"
Like, he would still get (and got) views, clout, etc, by doing that. He can say he did to prove a point, but he still wanted to do it and get the benefits of it either way
Why is your pfp and username lukeafk?
I am not really sure how this Tweet shows that this was his intention tbh. It sounds like the intro to a Mr. Beast-ified video. Not a video about how bad stalking celebrities is. Like how does this whole thing even show it? Because he wasn't able to get to Mr. Beast? Or because Mr. Beast responded annoyed? Like nothing he did showed anything about the culture. He just DID it. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@Modie the excuse feels a little bit like the new "it was a social experiment!!" doesn't it
I'm happy to see Pinley giving a platform to smaller creators.
I don't like Mr. Beast but people need to leave him alone.