These are sick and thanks to you guys I am now an official dealer! Head over to BothLightingUSA.com For details and pricing! (Best Deal Guaranteed) When you order through us you get a 2 year no question asked warranty!
They are great. I got the S6. In big venues I can get away with the spread. S4 I would need approximately 5-10 more to cover what I can do with s6. And battery is awesome. I did a 7 hour gig on s6. I had them fading, strobing, chasing. And they all still had over 35 percent battery at the end. Highly recommend both. Hit Rick up. S4 or s6 you can’t go wrong.
We ordered 128 of the S6 Minis (64 white, 64 black). I'm beyond happy with them - my DJs can fit 24-32 in their personal vehicles and we no longer need to send an assistant for them. They've allowed us to REALLY boost our profit margins AND pay our DJs a bit more for the trouble. Everyone wins!
I bought 16 of the S4s from Rick. Bottom line these lights are awesome. I love them. Plan on maybe getting another 8. Holla at Rick you won't be disappointed.
You can trust this guy! Received my order on time here in Canada. Great product but you should have shown the app and the remote control wow so easy to use without dmx them. Rick... I will need more soon let me know when you get some special discount :)
Rick, I’m a big fan of the S4’s I bought from you so far. A couple questions… 1. If you aren’t using a DMX controller and you’re just using the built-in programs, would you say the S4 is better to get than the S4 mini since the S4 has the lcd screen with the menu? I know you said the DMX profiles are the same on the regular and the mini, but it’s not clear to me how you would set the mini to some of the functions (setting a custom color, sound modes, etc.) you use the lcd menu for on the regular S4. 2. Battery charging - I know in your other video overview on these uplights you said the battery life indicator is not accurate, but is there a way to at least know when it’s fully charged? I’ve just been charging them for like 3 hours after each wedding and wasn’t sure if there’s a better way to go about it. I did notice that when it’s charging there’s a red light that comes on somewhere inside the case if you turn it upside down. I’ve also seen that light be green. Is that light possibly a charging/fully charged indicator?
Dont mix mini and normal at events. The dmx controls are different and the master slave doesnt work between them. Unless your doing solid colors then sure mix all you want. Or sound active modes. Yes on the s4 / s6 on the bottom of the light there is a red/green led inside the bottom. When you first plug it in it will turn red and turn green once fully charged. You have to look through the opening and cracks in the light to see it. If you cant find it email me i have photos
@@DJRickWeb thanks for the response! to be clear I wasn’t suggesting or asking about mixing the s4 and s4 mini. My question is, if you had to choose between buying the s4 or the s4 mini and you weren’t using or planning on having f a DMX controller, would the s4 be the way to go because the lcd screen menu makes it easier to access all the functionality?
My plan is to get the S6 because I'm going to use the app to control them, 100%. If the minis were able to be controlled by the app, I'd probably get them instead.
ok ok ok, I have had the S6 20 of them for the last 2 yrs, will say about 60 gigs, mostly 7 hr weddings and 15aneras and never fail me on battery, they are a bit picky because on wifi mode with I use with the remote, is someone kick on or move one they sometimes act crazy and affect other lights, but you go and fix it and back to normal, I have them in custom color for reception like 2-2.5 hrs and after that have them fading, strobbing on party time and they go to the end of the party. they are built as a tank. love them, just sold them and get me a new set of the same lights to keep going.
Hi Rick, You can unscruw the 4 top screws en twist them 180 degrees. Than the screens en led are on the backside. The only disadvantage is dat the stand is the wrong way. But i never use those any way. In the 4s versios the powerbrik are inside the unit. So they have also a powerbrick. Thats the course for the side differents. Maybe you can srew them open in a video. Sorry for my bad englisch, i`m from the Netherlands.
cool. i got the Rockville up lights. and believe it or not, they are pretty cool. and for the money , not bad , See you next week at he EXPO. I got some question for you, :)
Alright Rick, awesome videos bro. i have a few questions in regards to DMXing these. SO i ideally want to have both of my ADJ focus spot 6z moving heads and say 16 s6 uplights working all in sync. im currently using the ADJ my DMX GO app and a wireless dongle (the chinese version of donners) with your expertise, can you tell me if this can all work seamlessly? im thinking of switching to sound switch... thoughts on that? Just submitted the form for pricing, Thanks Rick! oh yea, is pricing any different with you as opposed to direct?
Hi, I have a charging problem on the S4. I have twelve that I bought recently (3 weeks). I respected the first charging of the batteries (7 hours) with the switch off. It didn't change anything, it was showing 80%. I'm going to a wedding with and had no problems. I put the fixtures back in charge (switches off). I did a second wedding and the fixtures went out after 1 hour. The power cable lights are red when I plug them in... and turn green after 10min of charging... Can you tell me the output voltage of your cables? Thanks in advance !
Could be a variety of issues. Did you order through us at bothlightingusa.com ? We can diagnose the problem fast and get you replacement parts or fix them for you for free.
Rick, great video! Quick question: does the Donner receiver (rechargeable) fit under the S4? I’m concerned with the length of the Donner receiver being too long and therefore you’d end up needing to adjust the height using the angle adjuster clip? Or do you simply use wired DMX cabling between the S4 units?
Interestingly the reason all colors max when using light it is all white. However, when you mix paints or liquids, it’s the exact opposite, all the colors (primary even) of all colors that aren’t might don’t give you white but black.
Hey Rick only issue I’ve had with the both lighting uplights is screws coming lose and issues with the spring on the bottom angle latch. I always use the road case and am careful with them so this was a bit of a concern for me
Hi Rick, I have 4 Eurolite AKKU Mini IP UP-4 QCL Spot and 4 Eurolite LED TL-3 RGB+UV Trusslight , my questions is how I can pair it together without dmx and use it with 1 controller. Its possible ? Thank you.
I sent you an inquiry email months ago, asking about either a 6 or 8 pack with charging case. You never responded.. I wound up buying Rockville 6pack wedge with charging case.. but I’m still interested in buying Both lights
We respond to every email. Did our reply go to spam? If you fill out the form it auto emails you the brochure so theres no way we didnt reply if you filled the form out
Can you use the S4 as master to slave S4 Minis? And can you use these as master/slaves in 2 different groups using the ADJ Airstream DMX Bridge? Meaning... having half do one scene while the others do a seperate scene... even creating custom DMX Bridge shows that way?
You rarely use it tbh. But sometimes its needed when the wall is slightly angled. It come in handy maybe 1 in 20 events lol. I have one venue here where we have to use it otherwise the uplights dont hit the wall
guys help me out.. i have really tight budget and wanna buy some uplights.. i am lookin at beamz bbp90 4-4w or bbp93 3-10w uplights.. which one would be better to uplight venue wall up to 100 people? thank you!
I will point out that every multi million dollar multi op company uses Chinese lights on dmx. Why? Cus they just need hex lights that shine on the walls.
And dj lights in general are stupidly expensive no need what so ever to charge what they charge for “lights” if you can get these lights for £200 each to my door in the uk show me the link
I Own wedge and S4. S4 is better in every way except they are slightly bigger and heavier. But better range. Better colors. Better build. Adjustable angle. Has an app that’s cool etc. unless you’re worried about weight or an extra lift - get the S4
These are sick and thanks to you guys I am now an official dealer!
Head over to BothLightingUSA.com
For details and pricing! (Best Deal Guaranteed)
When you order through us you get a 2 year no question asked warranty!
They are great. I got the S6. In big venues I can get away with the spread. S4 I would need approximately 5-10 more to cover what I can do with s6. And battery is awesome. I did a 7 hour gig on s6. I had them fading, strobing, chasing. And they all still had over 35 percent battery at the end. Highly recommend both. Hit Rick up. S4 or s6 you can’t go wrong.
Same thing I noticed
We ordered 128 of the S6 Minis (64 white, 64 black). I'm beyond happy with them - my DJs can fit 24-32 in their personal vehicles and we no longer need to send an assistant for them. They've allowed us to REALLY boost our profit margins AND pay our DJs a bit more for the trouble. Everyone wins!
In hindsight, which color do you prefer...black or white? I'm looking to purchase a bunch and leaning toward black.
I prefer black
I bought 16 of the S4s from Rick. Bottom line these lights are awesome. I love them. Plan on maybe getting another 8. Holla at Rick you won't be disappointed.
Thanks so much
Did yours come with powecon charging only? I see the S6 also has IEC was curious.
You can get either one. They switch them to all powercon around 2020 but you can still request iec
You can trust this guy! Received my order on time here in Canada. Great product but you should have shown the app and the remote control wow so easy to use without dmx them. Rick... I will need more soon let me know when you get some special discount :)
I’ve got 20 of the S6. These things are fantastic. No issues.
Rick, I’m a big fan of the S4’s I bought from you so far. A couple questions…
1. If you aren’t using a DMX controller and you’re just using the built-in programs, would you say the S4 is better to get than the S4 mini since the S4 has the lcd screen with the menu? I know you said the DMX profiles are the same on the regular and the mini, but it’s not clear to me how you would set the mini to some of the functions (setting a custom color, sound modes, etc.) you use the lcd menu for on the regular S4.
2. Battery charging - I know in your other video overview on these uplights you said the battery life indicator is not accurate, but is there a way to at least know when it’s fully charged? I’ve just been charging them for like 3 hours after each wedding and wasn’t sure if there’s a better way to go about it. I did notice that when it’s charging there’s a red light that comes on somewhere inside the case if you turn it upside down. I’ve also seen that light be green. Is that light possibly a charging/fully charged indicator?
Dont mix mini and normal at events. The dmx controls are different and the master slave doesnt work between them. Unless your doing solid colors then sure mix all you want. Or sound active modes.
Yes on the s4 / s6 on the bottom of the light there is a red/green led inside the bottom. When you first plug it in it will turn red and turn green once fully charged. You have to look through the opening and cracks in the light to see it. If you cant find it email me i have photos
@@DJRickWeb thanks for the response! to be clear I wasn’t suggesting or asking about mixing the s4 and s4 mini. My question is, if you had to choose between buying the s4 or the s4 mini and you weren’t using or planning on having f a DMX controller, would the s4 be the way to go because the lcd screen menu makes it easier to access all the functionality?
Great video Rick
You sold me on the S4
Thanks
My plan is to get the S6 because I'm going to use the app to control them, 100%. If the minis were able to be controlled by the app, I'd probably get them instead.
I bought 40 of the s6's - awesome lights. Love them - no issues so far from both.. Only thing was damage from fedex on 2 of the cases
How much did you pay
Thanks Rick, I’ve been following your channel since before you got your JBL SRX’s. I really appreciate your videos. Thanks.
I bought these LED's , extremely good quality and surprisingly fast shipping. Both is very reliable.
Hey Rick, what is your opinion on both lighting moving head lights? Are they worth getting?
this is a great question
Working on getting a pair. Joe Bunn has them and says they work great
In the works. Might see something 4th quarter on them
You should be very proud of yourself cause you did it. I'm old so I've seen what doing it tuff is AND u doing it
Thanks a ton
I need a power station to power up my Pioneer XDJ-XZ controller. I looking for 4-6 hours play time. Will the Ecoflow Delta 2 do that ?
Hey Rick, wondering if you will have a Booth at DJ Expo with Both Lighting? Anyway, I will see you there at DJ Expo 2022.
No booth. They didnt think it was worth it
ok ok ok, I have had the S6 20 of them for the last 2 yrs, will say about 60 gigs, mostly 7 hr weddings and 15aneras and never fail me on battery, they are a bit picky because on wifi mode with I use with the remote, is someone kick on or move one they sometimes act crazy and affect other lights, but you go and fix it and back to normal, I have them in custom color for reception like 2-2.5 hrs and after that have them fading, strobbing on party time and they go to the end of the party. they are built as a tank. love them, just sold them and get me a new set of the same lights to keep going.
Hi Rick, You can unscruw the 4 top screws en twist them 180 degrees. Than the screens en led are on the backside. The only disadvantage is dat the stand is the wrong way. But i never use those any way. In the 4s versios the powerbrik are inside the unit. So they have also a powerbrick. Thats the course for the side differents.
Maybe you can srew them open in a video. Sorry for my bad englisch, i`m from the Netherlands.
Yep all mine have the sheilds flipped 180. Going to go over all that in a video
Whatsize screws are on the top
Hi buddy. I’m in the uk. Do you ship these lights to the UK? Thanks
Absolutely bothlightingusa.com
cool. i got the Rockville up lights. and believe it or not, they are pretty cool. and for the money , not bad , See you next week at he EXPO. I got some question for you, :)
Both lighting manufacturers all of rockvilles lights lol
So wouldn’t it make sense to just buy Rockville then… 🤔😂
@@roymccaulley8532 No this is cheaper
Dude, I love my S4's!
I'm probably going to hit you up for 8 more early next year.
Alright Rick, awesome videos bro. i have a few questions in regards to DMXing these. SO i ideally want to have both of my ADJ focus spot 6z moving heads and say 16 s6 uplights working all in sync. im currently using the ADJ my DMX GO app and a wireless dongle (the chinese version of donners) with your expertise, can you tell me if this can all work seamlessly? im thinking of switching to sound switch... thoughts on that? Just submitted the form for pricing, Thanks Rick! oh yea, is pricing any different with you as opposed to direct?
Hi, I have a charging problem on the S4. I have twelve that I bought recently (3 weeks). I respected the first charging of the batteries (7 hours) with the switch off. It didn't change anything, it was showing 80%. I'm going to a wedding with and had no problems. I put the fixtures back in charge (switches off). I did a second wedding and the fixtures went out after 1 hour. The power cable lights are red when I plug them in... and turn green after 10min of charging... Can you tell me the output voltage of your cables? Thanks in advance !
Could be a variety of issues. Did you order through us at bothlightingusa.com ? We can diagnose the problem fast and get you replacement parts or fix them for you for free.
Rick, great video! Quick question: does the Donner receiver (rechargeable) fit under the S4? I’m concerned with the length of the Donner receiver being too long and therefore you’d end up needing to adjust the height using the angle adjuster clip?
Or do you simply use wired DMX cabling between the S4 units?
Lol. Not at all they have the wireless dmx reciever built into the light. Its awesome. All you need is a transmitter
@@DJRickWeb hey man, is there a certain transmitter you need ? After watching this video, I purchased 4 S4’s yesterday. Lol
I saw this company make the big s12 we needs these for big venues
I got them for sale
Interestingly the reason all colors max when using light it is all white. However, when you mix paints or liquids, it’s the exact opposite, all the colors (primary even) of all colors that aren’t might don’t give you white but black.
I know right
Hey Rick only issue I’ve had with the both lighting uplights is screws coming lose and issues with the spring on the bottom angle latch. I always use the road case and am careful with them so this was a bit of a concern for me
Have seen minor issues with these two. There are quick fixes to get it to work great. DM me if you need more info
Hi Rick, I have 4 Eurolite AKKU Mini IP UP-4 QCL Spot
and 4 Eurolite LED TL-3 RGB+UV Trusslight , my questions is how I can pair it together without dmx and use it with 1 controller. Its possible ? Thank you.
Not sure... have to reach out to that manufacturer
What do you think about the LED Mini Spotlight 4LEDs that Both Lighting makes?
We sell them! Video droping this week on them
I sent you an inquiry email months ago, asking about either a 6 or 8 pack with charging case. You never responded.. I wound up buying Rockville 6pack wedge with charging case.. but I’m still interested in buying Both lights
We respond to every email. Did our reply go to spam? If you fill out the form it auto emails you the brochure so theres no way we didnt reply if you filled the form out
Hi Rick! Can i charge S4 mini with charger from IR BO-IR4
? Thanks
I believe the volt output is different. Have to check
6:46 NICE!!
Hey Rick, can you run these uplights with a DMX program such as Soundswitch without a Donner system? Completely wireless?
Yep. Our whole team is doing exactly that every weekend. We are selling the sound switch program we made too
Do you have some sort of catalog? I want to eventually get these uplights for my high schools dj club
Yep link in description
I need something for outdoor events something that can light up trees and something dim stobe in the center
The S4s come with an outdoor cover
love my s6 lights
Any idea if the S4 will communicate with the Rockville wedge? Using the built in 2.4 wireless DMX
They will work on same channel for dmx. Master slave... its possible. The dmx profile is the same
Thanks Rick!! Any thoughts on the Freedom par lights by Both?? I saw them on the website (they’re the ones that look like the Ape lab maxis?
There only rf remote control. No dmx....
@@DJRickWeb ohhh interesting that’s good to know. Thanks
They do have some that are DMX but they are permanently stuck on channel 1
Don’t know if this has been asked already. But do these light have an app to program the colors?
They do but its not the best.
Quick question….how much would you say the charge case that 8 S6 weigh when full? Trying to decide what size to buy
8 unit are around 80lb
Thanks
I am thinking about 20 S4's.Not sure black or white.What color?
Black. White gets dirty over time
Can you use the S4 as master to slave S4 Minis? And can you use these as master/slaves in 2 different groups using the ADJ Airstream DMX Bridge? Meaning... having half do one scene while the others do a seperate scene... even creating custom DMX Bridge shows that way?
No s4 and s4 mini do not talk to each other in master slave mode.
If you create different channels yes you can have them doing different things
What would that be?🤣
Do u just sell the uplights or do u have other lights from both lighting
We have every light they make
Is there any difference with the wireless DMX range?
Yes. The bigger lights have the antenna that allows it to go further
Can I plug in a power con to the bottom of the light and will it still be able to be used/be level as well?
Yes ther is a big enough gap
@@DJRickWeb do power con cables come included?
Yes
Hey Rick do the minis work with the iPhone controller app?
Where did you make your Fusion Sound Light Sign in the back ?
Hit up Solstice neon on instagram
Is there an app to control the S4's
Yes there is but its not great. Recommend either a dmx solution or master slave control
What is the point of the kickstand?
You rarely use it tbh. But sometimes its needed when the wall is slightly angled. It come in handy maybe 1 in 20 events lol. I have one venue here where we have to use it otherwise the uplights dont hit the wall
Awesome Video !
Thanks for the info 👍
guys help me out.. i have really tight budget and wanna buy some uplights.. i am lookin at beamz bbp90 4-4w or bbp93 3-10w uplights.. which one would be better to uplight venue wall up to 100 people? thank you!
Thanks for sharing!
If you want wider does diffusion work??
Yeah that would work
OMG POWERCON JUMPER!!!!!
16:00
You're a beast kidd
What are the prices on these fixtures?
I talk about it in the video. Fill out the form for specific detials
Are these the same as the Rockville?? They look identical
Rockville is both lighting. Rockville buys all their lights from both lighting with the rockville branding.
Is there anyway you can use these with the ADJ"s Airstream DMX without going the Donner route?
You have to use a Chinese type wireless dmx transmitter. Which you can then plug into the adj stuff
APE LABS.....Best on the planet ! Don't be cheap buy the best.
We make Ape Labs lights. 😆. We sell them for about $50 per light even cheaper than these lights.
@@DJRickWeb Ape Labs is better in every way. Higher quality and the sound active mode is the best around. Nothing can beat it.
The customer only sees light on the walls.
@@DJRickWeb With that logic, you might as well buy $10 flashlights on Amazon and shine them up the walls.
I will point out that every multi million dollar multi op company uses Chinese lights on dmx. Why? Cus they just need hex lights that shine on the walls.
Y’all sell any of the moving heads?
We sell anything that both lighting makes
@@DJRickWeb dope, any chance you could do a review vid on some of them? Particularly the MH024A?
Cheers buddy 🤘🏼
how long on average to get to georgia s6?? ill get em asap
14 business days
Use this link if havent already
bit.ly/3e8kQdQ
What is both lighting?
A brand name
Who makes them? Brand name. I don't see that anywhere.
Bothlightingusa.com
Profiling???
Who makes these?
Bothlightingusa.com
Love my s4 lights just wished my wifi mode worked :(
The app? Yeah its not that great
That’s what i have been told
Agreed the app is terrible. Tried it once and said nope!
Looking for S4 online????
Do you have a rgbwauv color chart?
? Whats that
@@DJRickWeb for uplighting, like colors with corresponding r g b w a uv dmx values
Doesn’t 30-15% have an effect on the output?? 8:40
On the minis yes. On the big ones no
Can I come to your store now to buy a few?
Its online
@@DJRickWeb Guitar center have them cheaper!
@@IAMJESUShereNnow battery powered uplights? Doubt it.
Handsome dude
Ape Labs are the best!
The knock off ape labs that are identical to the ape labs in form and function by both lighting are better
@@DJRickWeb Ape Labs has much different functions. It has a better remote and control system along with an incredible music mode.
You can get the lights 10 for 1279 from the company and they have a wearhouse in California. Rick is charging 1900… kinda Wack
I sell those same ones in LA. My cost is 1550 on those. You pay for the US customer support. 1900 is if we ship them air frieght out of China.
Sounds like a paid promotion for Both Lighting
He legit told us he sold them 🤔
Paid as in we sell them as a dealer. Yes. But we also use them all day everyday
None of them are as good as Ape Labs another league.
And another cost league
Stupidly expensive as are ape labs can’t see how these companies can charge the price there charging for lights it’s completely daft
Expensive? This is as cheap as they come. Chauvet and ADJ battery lights are 3x more expensive
Just 1 Ape Labs Can costs around 200$, and it only includes 1 diode. These have 4, and cost about the same or less.
@@DJRickWeb not in the uk there not
And dj lights in general are stupidly expensive no need what so ever to charge what they charge for “lights” if you can get these lights for £200 each to my door in the uk show me the link
what do you think about the rockville rockwedge led, i just buy 12 of them @djrickweb
I Own wedge and S4. S4 is better in every way except they are slightly bigger and heavier. But better range. Better colors. Better build. Adjustable angle. Has an app that’s cool etc. unless you’re worried about weight or an extra lift - get the S4
Rockville is both lighting so...