I bought the 20 rt and it s awesome,i don t like built in efects on any amp that is one of the reasons why i think about the crush 20 rt the tone is perfect ,for practice it s a good choice in the dirty sound it s very loud impossible to use at full volume in an apartment!i move from marshall-fender to orange amps
Just picked up a white 50th Anniversary edition, no reverb or tuner and I really like mine! On this video, I vastly dig the new version to the old one.
My biggest amp is that one since I just started out nearly a year ago. I really like the sound of Orange amps, and so far, I think the 50th Anniversary edition is beautiful and simple. It allows a lot of versatility for pedals, especially for me as a beginner. (Dude, I even forget what middle does sometimes lol)
The diference is massive!!.....are you sure they were recorded the same ? I mean.... that's a BIG diference. I've got the old one i picked up for pennies and it sounds fab with a delay pedal. PS, Mick Ronson used a tiny practice amp on gene genie , for example , and there's nothing wrong with that. Cheers.
No one mentioned the Four Year Strong riffs? My college roommate played on the newer one, and it sounded much better than whatever ancient line 6 spyder he had, so it had that going for it!
The LDX reminds me of when I first started panting guitar and just plugged in and didn’t really care. I just wanted to play hard and fast. It’s nostalgic and definitely pulls at the heart strings, but the new one is just more refined and dialed in. It feels like it fills up sound properly and dynamically. It’s not having to compensate, it’s ready to go without too much tweaking.
there about the same honestly, the 20RT has slightly more bass, but the old one has that classic tone. the new one seems to handle higher gain over the older one, clean tones are pretty even from what i can tell. i do like the FX switch, you don't have that on the 20RT. that's all i have to say, there both budget amps.
Do you think the crush 20 would sound good with a rp-1000 multi effects pedal? I play different styles about every song in my sets, and can change to the tone I need instantly with the RP-1000. I do a one man band so a small amp mic`d would be all I would need. And the Crush 20 is the size and price I would want! Thank you!
If you are buying brand new it will almost certainly be the new one. To know for sure, look at the second half of the video and compare the controls. The old one has loads of writing in the bottom left and a different control layout 👍
Es lo mismo que quiero sqber, pero tengo entendido que si suena igual que el rt, la unica diferencia es que el rt trae reverb y afinador y 20 normal no
What song is that very first riff? I played it one day, couldn't figure it out where it was from, now I'm watching this video and there you are playing it. AHHH
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank you very much, i've asked a seller about the "black" one, and he say he didn't have one, now looking at his webstore i've founded with yout help, thank you, greetings from argentina.
Toby's Guitar Gear Demos there is also a newer 20w version without the RT.. any idea how to identify that one as the new one? i’m trying to buy a used one right now but not sure which edition it is. if it just says 20w, and not LDX, then is it the new one?
@@user-gq6vx9hm4n I ended up getting one and I went partially off the fact that it didn't say LDX and partially off the assumption that the seller bought it after the new one came out. Ideally the seller is on top of it and knows how old it is
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Great to see you still responding to your video. Subbed. Great demo too. I'm really torn between the ID CORE 20, This gem and the Fender mustang 1v2. The only reason I've not ordered the orange even though I love the sound is because it lacks some effects the others have. Is it worth missing out on those? This is going to be my first amp and my only one for quite a long time.
If you want Orange tone, the only way to get it is to get an Orange. The Blackstar ID Core stuff is excellent if you want more features and variety. Neither better just different. If you need the FX etc. go Blackstar. If you want the Orange tone go Crush 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos sorry toby, i didn't quite understand the difference btw the old and new model. In this comparison by old, you mean the one with the many effects on it, right? The thing is, i'm looking for a second hand crush 20. I found a 2015 or 2016 model,i think. It doesn't have reverb-tuner or non of the effects. Will it sound like the 20RT model or the 20LDX model?
Hey no worries. It should sound like the new one. Orange currently make both the Crush 20RT and Crush 20. They are both the new ones. The 20RT has a built in tuner and reverb the 20 does not but is still the new one. If you want to be 100% sure it’s not an old 20LDX then the old LDX has a mix knob and fx knob. All the new ones do not have these controls. Hope that makes sense 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos alright, got it now. Have another question, though. I've seen the 20RT video of yours. You tried the amp with delay pedal. I wonder how the amp reacts with overdrive/distortion and delay(or any time based) pedals going in front of the amp. I ask this because the fact that the amp doesn't have fx loop makes me wonder.
Its interesting. The RT is actually probably a better amp than the LDX, but I just ordered an LDX cheap on Reverb (assuming it arrives ...y'all know how Reverb is) and for me its the effects that sold me on the old one.
Orange 20 LDX é melhor. Da pra obter qualquer tom regulando os botoes e tem 16 efeitos (o chorus e reverb sao fantasticos). Unico ponto que nao eh tao bom seria o overdrive, mas ai qualquer plugin ou pedal de distorcao resolve facil...
@@Dani_couth estou pensando em comprar o 12, pois uso pedaleira e uso o Reverb da pedaleira.... Aí microfonaria o amp e usaria os recursos da pedaleira. O que acha?
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🎸Time-codes🎸:
0:04 - Clip 1 Classic Drive
0:35 - Clip 2 Pop Punk
1:08 - Clip 3 Stratty Cleans
1:31 - Clip 4 Headphone Out Rock
2:08 - Clip 5 High Gain
2:38 - Dirty Sounds - New Crush 20RT
3:32 - Dirty Sounds - Old Crush 20LDX
4:28 - Clean Sounds - New Crush 20RT
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Great post! didn't expect such a big difference, the new one kills it.
New Crush is more defined, better bass sensitivity.
Thanks for doing the headphone out, a huge difference between old and new.
Just bought the new 20 rt last week, superb, love it.
Orange is the new Black
Good one! Hahahahah
They both definitely cater to difference niches. The new one is a great all round but the old one seems great for punk and grunge kind of music
Appreciate the Queens of the stone age riff haha
The new one sounds so much better. In my opinion.
Great video man. You’re killing it lately with all these Orange videos 👍🏻
Thank you mate, it really does help. More Orange on the way 👍
Thank you. Incredibles demonstrations.
GOD bless you!!
the headphone out rock of the LDX can cut through an old block of cheese like butter. Insane difference.
I bought the 20 rt and it s awesome,i don t like built in efects on any amp that is one of the reasons why i think about the crush 20 rt the tone is perfect ,for practice it s a good choice in the dirty sound it s very loud impossible to use at full volume in an apartment!i move from marshall-fender to orange amps
Just picked up a white 50th Anniversary edition, no reverb or tuner and I really like mine! On this video, I vastly dig the new version to the old one.
Orange Crush 20 is super, plays very well with tc tube pilot and honey pot (Reverend Sensie JR)
My biggest amp is that one since I just started out nearly a year ago. I really like the sound of Orange amps, and so far, I think the 50th Anniversary edition is beautiful and simple. It allows a lot of versatility for pedals, especially for me as a beginner. (Dude, I even forget what middle does sometimes lol)
Excellent comparison! Thank you!
Very helpful, thank you 🙏🏻
Great video! Love those pop punk ezcore riffs man! And the new crush sounds better to me, more fuller than the old version.
Cheers man 👍
Hey! What is that pop punk riff? Sounds like four year strong but I really can’t put my finger on it and it’s bothering me! Great demos btw!
friend I would like to know if you notice the difference between 20rt and the normal 20 is my first amplifier greetings from Colombia
They would sound great in unison.
I think the 20ldx is fizzier and thinner sounding than the plain Crush 20 which you can still get, which just sounds like a 20rt without the reverb 👍
New Crush sounds brighter. 🎸😀👍
You played some Four Year Strong riffs and that my friend, makes you awesome 👍🏼
The diference is massive!!.....are you sure they were recorded the same ? I mean.... that's a BIG diference. I've got the old one i picked up for pennies and it sounds fab with a delay pedal. PS, Mick Ronson used a tiny practice amp on gene genie , for example , and there's nothing wrong with that. Cheers.
Orange Crush 20 LDX, the best by far, ready to small gigs, parties, etc.
Is that "the Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows" starting at 2:40?
Definitelly Crush 20 LDX, using the knobs I can get any sound, further we have the "FX Mode programs".
20LDX the best on the market.
Great video!
No one mentioned the Four Year Strong riffs? My college roommate played on the newer one, and it sounded much better than whatever ancient line 6 spyder he had, so it had that going for it!
The LDX reminds me of when I first started panting guitar and just plugged in and didn’t really care. I just wanted to play hard and fast. It’s nostalgic and definitely pulls at the heart strings, but the new one is just more refined and dialed in. It feels like it fills up sound properly and dynamically. It’s not having to compensate, it’s ready to go without too much tweaking.
Get one of both, plug in your Triungulo Lab Chorus Ensemble pedal for that sweet, sweet stereo.
The 20LDX is dope if you use pedals for your dirt.
I have one that's rehouse into a 2x12 Lidovox cab and it puuuushes
The old one sounds amazing during the punk part.
@@lunarscorpio3987 thats exactly what i use mine for :D
@@nicks4802 You must sound amazing then!
Thanks for that great review 🙏
New 🔊 might sound better, but is it orange? 🤔
Yes. RT. The other is LDX.
Gain is better on older one
there about the same honestly, the 20RT has slightly more bass, but the old one has that classic tone. the new one seems to handle higher gain over the older one,
clean tones are pretty even from what i can tell. i do like the FX switch,
you don't have that on the 20RT. that's all i have to say,
there both budget amps.
Wow - no comparison. Would certainly consider the new version, now.
Ooh, Tell me Baby for the stratty cleans, I like it.
I prefer the new orange! ^^
The LDX definitely doesn’t have a foot switch jack. Never expected that when I bought one sight unseen buy and sell for $50
Do you think the crush 20 would sound good with a rp-1000 multi effects pedal? I play different styles about every song in my sets, and can change to the tone I need instantly with the RP-1000. I do a one man band so a small amp mic`d would be all I would need. And the Crush 20 is the size and price I would want! Thank you!
Yeh it could do, if you set the amp clean/on the edge. Then get all your sounds from the pedal 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank you for the response!
See the comment I just made. The old one is great with a pedal. Good luck.
The Crush 20 LDX awsome
Is the old one broken?
4:43 drown?
How can I differentiate between old and new orange crush (non-rt)?
If you are buying brand new it will almost certainly be the new one. To know for sure, look at the second half of the video and compare the controls. The old one has loads of writing in the bottom left and a different control layout 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank You :)
Old one doesn’t have a clean / dirty switch. I bought the old one and I complained about the sound of it from day 1.
Hay una versión q no es rt y no trae reverb y afinador suena igual q este rt?
Es lo mismo que quiero sqber, pero tengo entendido que si suena igual que el rt, la unica diferencia es que el rt trae reverb y afinador y 20 normal no
Suena bien el nuevo amplificador orange (para rockear) y tiene un sonido más cálido. En el caso del antiguo tiene más claridad.
The headphone output of the old one is horrible, anyway the overall difference is huge and I'm fortunately an owner of the new RT20.
Is the new crush 20 and the crush 20RT the same? apart from the reverb🙂
Yes identical apart from reverb and tuner 👍
Could you make a comparison between the old crush (30r) and the new one (35) please?
Tossed my Paper Trash DX as soon as could ! MY RT IS A KEEPER .
Does nobody really care about the built in effects on amps? I really hate how they did away with that on the new 20rt :(
Do they have the same speakers, other than the headphone output it really sounds like the kind of difference speakers can make to me.
El 20rt es igaul al 20cr?
What song is that very first riff? I played it one day, couldn't figure it out where it was from, now I'm watching this video and there you are playing it. AHHH
Free bird
Is the 20rt black or did you guys just make it black for the purpose of the video?
Comes in Orange or black 👍
1:35 аниме Cyberpunk 2077?
i want the new version, how can i identify it?
The name of the new one is Crush 20RT, the old is Crush 20LDX 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank you very much, i've asked a seller about the "black" one, and he say he didn't have one, now looking at his webstore i've founded with yout help, thank you, greetings from argentina.
Toby's Guitar Gear Demos there is also a newer 20w version without the RT.. any idea how to identify that one as the new one? i’m trying to buy a used one right now but not sure which edition it is. if it just says 20w, and not LDX, then is it the new one?
@@lukecurran5960 I have the exact same question, did you find any information about it?
@@user-gq6vx9hm4n I ended up getting one and I went partially off the fact that it didn't say LDX and partially off the assumption that the seller bought it after the new one came out. Ideally the seller is on top of it and knows how old it is
Like the old black better
The black is the new one.
New crush sounds much better
I have Orange cruch 12w
RT 👍
Is it tight enough for low tuned metal without a boost?
I'd say it can do it. Just don't expect it to go full djent tight👍
Toby's Guitar Gear Demos appreciate it.
yeah i have the crush 12l and i can confirm the headphone out distortion is very garbage
Anyone know if this is a tube amp?
Solid State 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Great to see you still responding to your video. Subbed. Great demo too. I'm really torn between the ID CORE 20, This gem and the Fender mustang 1v2. The only reason I've not ordered the orange even though I love the sound is because it lacks some effects the others have. Is it worth missing out on those? This is going to be my first amp and my only one for quite a long time.
If you want Orange tone, the only way to get it is to get an Orange. The Blackstar ID Core stuff is excellent if you want more features and variety. Neither better just different. If you need the FX etc. go Blackstar. If you want the Orange tone go Crush 👍
@@dagoncrows1425 The LDX is the old model, the Crush 20 without the reverb is identical to the new model apart from the verb as far as i know 👍
Why is it black? I google the orange 20rt and all are orange
They make them in Orange and black, most are Orange 👍
what song at 1:31?
No One Knows - Queens of the Stone Age 👍
I used to have old orange crush 20, sell it because it sounds too thin..
Do you think there is a difference tonewise, between the non-rt crush 20 and crush 20rt?
From what I've seen. The new RT and new 20 are identical. Just lose the reverb and tuner 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos sorry toby, i didn't quite understand the difference btw the old and new model. In this comparison by old, you mean the one with the many effects on it, right? The thing is, i'm looking for a second hand crush 20. I found a 2015 or 2016 model,i think. It doesn't have reverb-tuner or non of the effects. Will it sound like the 20RT model or the 20LDX model?
Hey no worries. It should sound like the new one. Orange currently make both the Crush 20RT and Crush 20. They are both the new ones. The 20RT has a built in tuner and reverb the 20 does not but is still the new one. If you want to be 100% sure it’s not an old 20LDX then the old LDX has a mix knob and fx knob. All the new ones do not have these controls. Hope that makes sense 👍
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos alright, got it now. Have another question, though. I've seen the 20RT video of yours. You tried the amp with delay pedal. I wonder how the amp reacts with overdrive/distortion and delay(or any time based) pedals going in front of the amp. I ask this because the fact that the amp doesn't have fx loop makes me wonder.
Hard to tell in this comparison does the first versions Bass Control actually do anything the subtleties of RUclips hope it does something
New one!
Es chino?
The ldx is the best The headphone test can sound as good as the RT but i found you have to turn up the mids! And it takes away that thin fuzzyness.
Its interesting. The RT is actually probably a better amp than the LDX, but I just ordered an LDX cheap on Reverb (assuming it arrives ...y'all know how Reverb is) and for me its the effects that sold me on the old one.
Well I also picked up a 35RT so I have best of both worlds, the little LDX is great for my "office amp".
The 20 LDX is spectacular for small gigs
rt nice
was that brand new you were playin?
Crush 20RT winner from minute zero
Yo tengo uno dlx para vender, sin estrenar
The old orange crush lacks bass.
Just use the tone controls. Works for me.
The new one is far improved version.
BR
falem a sua opinião 👇
Orange 20 LDX é melhor. Da pra obter qualquer tom regulando os botoes e tem 16 efeitos (o chorus e reverb sao fantasticos). Unico ponto que nao eh tao bom seria o overdrive, mas ai qualquer plugin ou pedal de distorcao resolve facil...
@@leeburnsred obrigada
Eu já comprei e estou muito satisfeita 😃
@@Dani_couth Iai, gostando do amp?
@@JoaoFerreira-gl9kj É muito bom
A única coisa que eu não gostei foi o overdrive
@@Dani_couth estou pensando em comprar o 12, pois uso pedaleira e uso o Reverb da pedaleira.... Aí microfonaria o amp e usaria os recursos da pedaleira. O que acha?
NO ONE KNOWS !!!!!
New one is better but it's not orange lmao
The distortion of the old was horrible.
It’s not orange
Solo quiere venderte
Es un video para los que quieren comprar. pajin
I dunno i kinda like the old one better
That's a toss up
What’s the song at 2:10 ?
White Unicorn - Wolfmother 👍
Toby's Guitar Gear Demos Ohhh ok Hey Thanks!! Hey Great reviews!! 🤘🤘