I once interviewed for an electrical engineering technician job and had to take a test that contained technical questions. Most of the questions were electronics related and I did fine with them but one question was asking me to convert a temperature measurement from Fahrenheit to Celsius. I couldn't remember the conversion formula so I leaned back in my chair and looked up from the desk to try and stimulate my memory. At that moment I noticed a small thermometer on the wall above the desk I was sitting at that had both measurements. Needless to say I used that "cheat" to get the right answer. Later on the interviewer told me that the thermometer was placed there on purpose. He knew many electronics technicians probably wouldn't know the temperature conversion formula offhand and he was testing to see if applicants had the skills to find answers when they did not directly know them. Depending on the situation I see AI as a tool much like a calculator, or in my case thermometer, that can be a resource when needed.
Considering that the job process has reached total new lows, the job seeker is under no obligation to be ethical or truthful to an unethical or subjectively, lying employer who can change the job posting, change the pay compensation at any moment or or outright deceive and there’s nothing the seeker can do about it. Except decline. Why should the employer be the only party able to lie through the process and not the job seeker?
My brother-in-law in 2019 did some random ass quality assurance software testing Boot Camp ran by a bunch of Indians. He basically paid them 5K to fake a résumé and he did most of the learning himself on Java, etc., the Boot Camp didn’t teach him much. he bullshitted the whole interview and now he’s been in the field for five years making over 100 K.
I get your point, it does feel a bit shady. But honestly, the pressure to perform in these interviews is insane. I used an AI tool myself recently - it listens in and feeds you answers - and it helped me land a role I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. The questions were so specific and obscure, it felt less like cheating and more like leveling the playing field.
I totally get it. Interviews are stressful mainly because of the hundreds of “standard” interview questions they pick from. Absolutely impossible to prepare for. If interviews were intended to actually get to know people then cheating wouldn’t be an issue. Instead employees are just stats on paper to corporations.
Meh.. I had a coworker who told me he googled some questions during an interview. He got the job and was a good coworker. Most of the things you willl learn in the job
Fake it till you make it. And when they find out you don’t know crap, pivot to somewhere else. If you’re a sociopath, you’ll do well working the system this way.
Cheating your through an interview opens the door for imposter syndrome. Explains some of fear people have of asking questions because they don’t know and don’t want to be found out.
What’s interesting is that some companies are starting to use AI to sift through job applications to search for the right fitting applicants. If you don’t use the right keywords on your resume, you might be picked over someone who may not be as qualified but, they used the right keywords when applying. Therefore, we’re able to land the interview. So, it’s okay for companies to use AI by using a program instead of a human to source through the applications as their ‘cheat’ code? is this not cheating?
I’ve used AI to help prepare and organize my thoughts and ideas around general interview questions, however, it has never crossed my mind to use it during an actual interview. Call me old school but I prefer to do the interviewing and to be interviewed in person! That alone cuts out the AI factor and the in person nonverbal communication provides a lot of additional intel!
I don't consider it cheating because cheating is the wrong word. Just like winning and losing, it doesn't apply to an interview. If we are talking about a practical portion of a hiring process, that would be different, but for an interview itself, I agree it's the wrong question. But then, most interviews are bupkiss anyway. There is an entire industry built on 'winning' interviews, studying the right things to say, prepping, etc., so that you can give them the answers they want. Or you are highly skilled with your social skills and can read the room that way. Neither is any different than an AI tool. That being said, this is nothing new. People have been lying their way into jobs since they've existed. Some parts may be a little harder to fake these days, but it happens nonetheless. One popular story I see floating around FB, is about a guy that did a ton of the wood carvings dotted around Disney. He said he was a skilled carpenter and carver, and lied his way into a position. Faking it til he made it. That was decades upon decades ago. Nothing has changed when someone wants a job more than someone unwilling to lie.
I am employed in the technology sector, and I believe that utilizing AI to succeed in interviews is not advantageous over time. The tech industry is dynamic, even when collaborating with others as part of a team. You may have to be self-sufficient and offer your own input by the day's end. Otherwise, you will be slowing down the team, with experienced colleagues explaining the fundamentals to you.
I have no issues with people lying about the standard interview questions: strength/weakness, greatest accomplishment, why hire…. BUT, when it comes to things like certificates, degrees and past jobs..NO. This I do not and am not okay with people lying about. This because 1. Some jobs do legitimately require certain coursework and certifications to work for state government purposes. (#1 being medical but even things as small as “food handling”) 2. I personally, don’t like fooling employers into having qualifications t or skills that I do not possess. This leads to less training and increased job difficulties.
Hi! We run the first modern hiring reputation system - like Glassdoor for employment or Yelp for fine dining - we don't think the only online market without oversight or a reputation system should be the one the entire economy relies on. But we are also in a coalition with 2 other founders trying to revamp hiring. We'd love to try to connect with you and potentially chat. If you are open to it we could do a quick zoom meeting and see if it's a good fit and go from there
Very unbalanced system at play, employers can be dishonest about so much but you better have integrity. Entry level jobs wants years of experience and tell you to play fair.
@ If you read my original comment I don’t see how you gather I’m saying you should cheat. If you are playing a game where cash can be won and you use a cheat code that is not available to other players then you are cheating. One key component is that it’s not available to other players. Lastly, if you take a job that list 10 skills but you only have 9 in an entry level job and you figure out how to effectively do that job and learn the skill, I see no harm in it. It happened to me right out of college with my entry level job that required 2-3 years experience. I killed it at that job despite lacking one of the skills required to do the job. Clearly they were also dishonest about the 2-3 years because they hired 4 of us right out of college with no experience. The skill they wanted you could not have learned in anyone’s college so it was a tactic by the company to dissuade people from applying unless they were over qualified.
I once interviewed for an electrical engineering technician job and had to take a test that contained technical questions. Most of the questions were electronics related and I did fine with them but one question was asking me to convert a temperature measurement from Fahrenheit to Celsius. I couldn't remember the conversion formula so I leaned back in my chair and looked up from the desk to try and stimulate my memory. At that moment I noticed a small thermometer on the wall above the desk I was sitting at that had both measurements. Needless to say I used that "cheat" to get the right answer. Later on the interviewer told me that the thermometer was placed there on purpose. He knew many electronics technicians probably wouldn't know the temperature conversion formula offhand and he was testing to see if applicants had the skills to find answers when they did not directly know them. Depending on the situation I see AI as a tool much like a calculator, or in my case thermometer, that can be a resource when needed.
Considering that the job process has reached total new lows, the job seeker is under no obligation to be ethical or truthful to an unethical or subjectively, lying employer who can change the job posting, change the pay compensation at any moment or or outright deceive and there’s nothing the seeker can do about it. Except decline. Why should the employer be the only party able to lie through the process and not the job seeker?
Because they hold the bag and you don’t.
Because the majority of people are in the broad road to hell and you’re eager to follow that path. Take the narrow road my friend.
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.
My brother-in-law in 2019 did some random ass quality assurance software testing Boot Camp ran by a bunch of Indians. He basically paid them 5K to fake a résumé and he did most of the learning himself on Java, etc., the Boot Camp didn’t teach him much. he bullshitted the whole interview and now he’s been in the field for five years making over 100 K.
If you're trying, you're not cheating
I get your point, it does feel a bit shady. But honestly, the pressure to perform in these interviews is insane. I used an AI tool myself recently - it listens in and feeds you answers - and it helped me land a role I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. The questions were so specific and obscure, it felt less like cheating and more like leveling the playing field.
@@Lisadov What's the name of that AI tool? Asking for a friend who's struggling in interviews.
@@AlexDan-z3i It's called interview hammer. But remember, you need to be able to do the job. Otherwise, what's the point? You'll be let go in no time.
times are tough, you got to do what you got to do.....
Then you’re a low quality person
I totally get it. Interviews are stressful mainly because of the hundreds of “standard” interview questions they pick from. Absolutely impossible to prepare for. If interviews were intended to actually get to know people then cheating wouldn’t be an issue. Instead employees are just stats on paper to corporations.
Yup. You can give all good replies to every question and the managers can still choose someone else.
Employers are not honest and are cheating as well.
Companies use AI as well to hire, so that's ok?
Meh.. I had a coworker who told me he googled some questions during an interview. He got the job and was a good coworker. Most of the things you willl learn in the job
Fake it till you make it. And when they find out you don’t know crap, pivot to somewhere else. If you’re a sociopath, you’ll do well working the system this way.
You should always be yourself and prepare yourself for the interview. Don’t try to cheat and lie. People aren’t stupid.
Cheating your through an interview opens the door for imposter syndrome. Explains some of fear people have of asking questions because they don’t know and don’t want to be found out.
What’s interesting is that some companies are starting to use AI to sift through job applications to search for the right fitting applicants. If you don’t use the right keywords on your resume, you might be picked over someone who may not be as qualified but, they used the right keywords when applying. Therefore, we’re able to land the interview.
So, it’s okay for companies to use AI by using a program instead of a human to source through the applications as their ‘cheat’ code? is this not cheating?
😂 agree
All AI does is look for words that were in the job description, not that hard, it's not a secret or something 😂
Well they are not misrepresenting themselves. If you’re going to cheat man up and tell the interviewer and you won’t be misrepresenting yourself.
I’ve used AI to help prepare and organize my thoughts and ideas around general interview questions, however, it has never crossed my mind to use it during an actual interview.
Call me old school but I prefer to do the interviewing and to be interviewed in person! That alone cuts out the AI factor and the in person nonverbal communication provides a lot of additional intel!
Better try hard or cry later...
How do you cheat in a job interview
What’s the why?
Desperate?
Hope?
I need to stand out?
Based on previous episode: Is this job even real?
I don't consider it cheating because cheating is the wrong word. Just like winning and losing, it doesn't apply to an interview. If we are talking about a practical portion of a hiring process, that would be different, but for an interview itself, I agree it's the wrong question. But then, most interviews are bupkiss anyway. There is an entire industry built on 'winning' interviews, studying the right things to say, prepping, etc., so that you can give them the answers they want. Or you are highly skilled with your social skills and can read the room that way. Neither is any different than an AI tool.
That being said, this is nothing new. People have been lying their way into jobs since they've existed. Some parts may be a little harder to fake these days, but it happens nonetheless. One popular story I see floating around FB, is about a guy that did a ton of the wood carvings dotted around Disney. He said he was a skilled carpenter and carver, and lied his way into a position. Faking it til he made it. That was decades upon decades ago. Nothing has changed when someone wants a job more than someone unwilling to lie.
Pollyanna Ken - how many REAL jobs have you applied for and gotten? You couldn’t even graduate from college. 😂
50 years? You look good for your age!
I am employed in the technology sector, and I believe that utilizing AI to succeed in interviews is not advantageous over time. The tech industry is dynamic, even when collaborating with others as part of a team. You may have to be self-sufficient and offer your own input by the day's end. Otherwise, you will be slowing down the team, with experienced colleagues explaining the fundamentals to you.
It's only ok for companies to use AI to come up with solutions for their clients.
Heck most of em use the computer to select the best resumes to begin with.... who looks through 10,000+ applications by hand anymore?
They know they’re paying for it. You’re free to disclose that you’re using ai in an interview.
I have no issues with people lying about the standard interview questions: strength/weakness, greatest accomplishment, why hire…. BUT, when it comes to things like certificates, degrees and past jobs..NO. This I do not and am not okay with people lying about. This because 1. Some jobs do legitimately require certain coursework and certifications to work for state government purposes. (#1 being medical but even things as small as “food handling”) 2. I personally, don’t like fooling employers into having qualifications t or skills that I do not possess. This leads to less training and increased job difficulties.
Hi! We run the first modern hiring reputation system - like Glassdoor for employment or Yelp for fine dining - we don't think the only online market without oversight or a reputation system should be the one the entire economy relies on. But we are also in a coalition with 2 other founders trying to revamp hiring. We'd love to try to connect with you and potentially chat. If you are open to it we could do a quick zoom meeting and see if it's a good fit and go from there
What about using AI for questions that are asked that are not related to the job description and requirements?
Is the interview a form or test?
Is this interview in person with a panel?
Is it a virtual interview?
Honestly won’t get you any where in most cases in job seeking process
Interviews are pointless.Much better to just give people a trial to sink or swim.
Very unbalanced system at play, employers can be dishonest about so much but you better have integrity. Entry level jobs wants years of experience and tell you to play fair.
So you’re justifying stealing? What kind of person are you?
@ What’s being stolen?
@@derekwallace4144 I assume you’re cheating in order to obtain future compensation? Look up the definition of fraud.
@@derekwallace4144 if Ken used a cheat code to win cash compensation in a gaming competiton would he not be defesuding or stealing?
@ If you read my original comment I don’t see how you gather I’m saying you should cheat. If you are playing a game where cash can be won and you use a cheat code that is not available to other players then you are cheating. One key component is that it’s not available to other players. Lastly, if you take a job that list 10 skills but you only have 9 in an entry level job and you figure out how to effectively do that job and learn the skill, I see no harm in it. It happened to me right out of college with my entry level job that required 2-3 years experience. I killed it at that job despite lacking one of the skills required to do the job. Clearly they were also dishonest about the 2-3 years because they hired 4 of us right out of college with no experience. The skill they wanted you could not have learned in anyone’s college so it was a tactic by the company to dissuade people from applying unless they were over qualified.
👍👍👍
Did the employer feel bad about using AI to weed out resumes instead of doing the work themselves to find the right person?👀👀👀
But that’s not fraud.
PONG
This is a form of fraud and companies should be able to prosecute you based on fraudulently misrepresenting yourself to obtain something of value.