The Motor you need to get is a 12mm diameter motor. There are a few different ones on the marketplaces. I ordered the one I think will fit. I will share what you need to get as soon as I know it fits. I don't want you wasting your hard-earned money on something I think will work.
I was kinda hoping Losi used a 130 motor instead of a 030 size motor. There are way more 130 motors available. There are even pretty quick brushed 130 motors if you look into the Tamiya Mini4wd scene. Most likely the 130s will not work….
@@Cr125stin interesting. I found that the Losi motor has 65T and there is a 55T motor of the same 030 size. I know that the less number of turns (T) the more RPM you get from the motor. Humm.
@@BillsWorkbench yea what is crazy is most brushed cars use something between 15 turn and 30 turn! 65 turn is definitely more something a crawler would use. I believe the stock 65t Micro-B motor is strait out of an Axial crawler/trail truck. I used to run a 10800kv brushless motor in my original Micro-T ! That’s like a 3.5 turn motor haha
They definitely are a handful my jrx2 mini with a hobbywing brushless on 3s blows 4s scts away while doing wheelies. I do have one of those crap spektrum scx24 brushless setups that i will test fit in the micro b and see if it can finally not be a waste.
I will be receiving my Micro Bs today, so I haven't even really gotten the chance to look at it in person yet. I certainly hope that you are able to find a solution to this quandary. For me, i am not sure I would need any extra torque or speed, but the thought of going back to maintaining a brushed motor for peak performance is not relished. Please keep us updated if/when you find something that works. I am really excited about the proposition of a brushless setup. BTW! I spoke yesterday with Horizon Hobby, and asking about a brushless option, it doesn't look like there will be an official option available; though in fairness the tech did later sort of retract the statement by saying they were neither confirming nor denying that Losi will come out with one. So don't take my comments with TOO much seriousness, because the tech may/may not know what they are talking about.
I am still looking for an excellent brushless solution. I am almost there, just need to get the Pinion figured out. However, the RC world is very different today than it was years ago. It's like everything else it's becoming disposable. Which is unfortunate in may aspects. But with that said, I found a 55T brushed motor that was made for the SCX 24 crawlers that add a bunch of punch to the Micro B, enough that it's noticeable. That motor is inexpensive and not serviceable, but by the time it fails, there will be another upgrade to do or get a replacement of that motor. This is the motor I am talking about: amzn.to/4dARrEB
You are so right. Things have changed so much within just 10 years or so (how long it has been since I picked up my RC stuff, because of other hobbies). Did you replace a brushed with another brushed fir giggles, or were you having issues with the stock motor? As for myself, I am not really concerned about a brushed replacement (short of house brand). I still have some new motors from back in the day when I raced Xmods and Mini-Zs. The Tamiya Plasma Dash motors were the ship back in the day. I am not certain that they would line up, but they are relatively similar sized, and shape as well. And boy do they add some real punch (and top end) to both brands mentioned. Of course I would also jave to play with gearing as well. Have you messed with the spur and/or the pinion yet, or is there not enough room for anything but smaller gears in there?
The worst part about the 030s is the fastener placements. With the weird shape, they have 15mm hight and a 12mm with so the put the mounting points at an angle for along the height to get a larger separation for stability. But that means any brushless motor (spherical) will have to have 1mm to have half the screw thickness + the thread thickness + the side wall.
@@BillsWorkbench I hope losi or a third party come out with an conversion kit, im waiting to by the micro-t or micro desert truck they have hinted at, so ill be waiting to see.
@@BillsWorkbench It's 15mm in diameter so it will more than likely not work. If the Surpass 3500Kv won't fit then neither will any other motor that size. Bunch of morons over there at Losi.
@senorpinchegringo7623 I got the idea from Somebody That has already used this setup and turn the car into a beast the only thing Is you have to fab a motor plate
Subscribed, i was thinking about getting a micro b for this same purpose. on the wltoys 284161 i used a rocketrc 9800kv. looks like that probably wont fit in here though
@@BillsWorkbench Will look forward to it. I went back and checked and I was incorrect, it was not a RocketRC motor but a Leopard 1625 motor. 16mm so definitely too big. It turned that WLToys into an uncontrollable rocketship though.
What model receiver are you using? I recently switched to a Noble 4 radio. And have been collecting mini RCs. Hobby Plus, FMS, Scx24s. And mostly have done motor and esc swaps to brushless to do away from the esc and receiver all in ones. My goal is to have all of my rigs work with my Noble NB4. Some I haven’t been able to swap cause of the tiny white connectors. Would appreciate the help.
I’m curious if you can get a beefier brushed motor with more thermal mass. Maybe somehow use a custom heat sink. Then Increase the pinion for a bit more top end speed. I think 20 mph would be perfect
That motor fits in there like a glove. You would need to find a good match, also there is not any adjustments for the pinion without taking a rat tail file to the mount.
PN Racing makes 50T and lower turn brushed motors that will probably accomplish what you are trying to do. Whether the stock ESC/Receiver combo will handle them is another question.
@@BillsWorkbench Dang. Might just need to runs stock then. Which I’m fine with. I pre ordered my car over a week ago. How are yall getting your cars already?
I just ordered mine from AMain, rather than HH, which has them shipping in November, and the extra batteries in Feb of 2025. Needless to say, I canceled my order with HH. 🙂 Got them inside of a week.
I just got mine and i noticed that the steering to the right is a lot worse then steering to the left, if you figure out how to fix it let me know. thanks!
Mine is too. Three things. 1. Make sure that your ST knob on the right of the radio is turned up all the way. That is steering rate. 2. There is a turnbuckle kit from Losi Performance that may help, you would need to give it a bit of toe in. 3. There is some space between the end of the servo horn and the frame that I might have enough room to make a 3d printed part to extend the arm. That's a project for this week, while waiting on the motor to arrive.
I found out that the SLT2 radio can actually adjust left and right endpoints independently. Google the manual and you'll get the instructions on how to do this. The unequal left and right throw was driving me nuts until I found this fix. :)
@@Wadinator038 that sucks but maybe company’s will make conversation parts so they can mount different moters if not you can always 3d print a mount if you cant find a moter to fit 🙂
@@No-rh6zp Regarding using a Kyohso brushless motor, that's probably not going to be possible since the Kyosho motor needs to be supported by a mount at each end due to it not having any screw holes. Losi screwed up and this release is a complete waste of time due to the fact that it doesn't accommodate 15mm diameter motors. FYI all the motors that are made for the 1/28th are 15mm in diameter.
No, the only one I could find was a generic 1220 brushless motor. You need a maximum 12mm diameter can. The Hobbywings are 15mm. I have it on order; I want to ensure it fits. before I get everyone excited about ordering a motor that will not work. Subscribe to keep an eye on this exciting build?
@@jacobemry1018 The radio conversion will not but it will be better because I will not need to take another radio with me to the track. There are also more settings in the radio, like a throttle curve that makes me quicker. The brushless motor will either make this thing a rocket ship, or not. There is only one way to find out, and that is to try it.
Thanks for the video. You just saved me a bunch of money. I don't think Losi knows what they are doing, Horizon needs to fire some people. How do you release a micro and not make it compatible with 15mm diameter motors? This release is now completely worthless and a wasted opportunity. What a bummer.
Thank you for the feedback. Looking at it for what it is a $99.00 car that is of good quality, I am happy with the chance to tinker and run it around a bit.
@@senorpinchegringo7623 not only that but it really doesn’t need much more than it has it genuinely moves🤣 I got mine in and I might return the brushless motor and Esc that I got for it
Don't forget Losi has these made in China it's not a xxx. Also I have hairy hands and I'm going to ask my wife if she finds them attractive, because I never really thought about it. Maybe she does, ok wish me luck😮
The Motor you need to get is a 12mm diameter motor. There are a few different ones on the marketplaces. I ordered the one I think will fit. I will share what you need to get as soon as I know it fits. I don't want you wasting your hard-earned money on something I think will work.
I was kinda hoping Losi used a 130 motor instead of a 030 size motor. There are way more 130 motors available. There are even pretty quick brushed 130 motors if you look into the Tamiya Mini4wd scene. Most likely the 130s will not work….
@@Cr125stin interesting. I found that the Losi motor has 65T and there is a 55T motor of the same 030 size. I know that the less number of turns (T) the more RPM you get from the motor. Humm.
@@BillsWorkbench yea what is crazy is most brushed cars use something between 15 turn and 30 turn! 65 turn is definitely more something a crawler would use. I believe the stock 65t Micro-B motor is strait out of an Axial crawler/trail truck. I used to run a 10800kv brushless motor in my original Micro-T ! That’s like a 3.5 turn motor haha
@@BillsWorkbench hey I just ordered an 050 50 turn motor on Amazon for $8. The 050 is just longer than the 030. I will see if it will work!
@@Cr125stinkeep us updated!
Brushless will be over kill on this, even the mini b 1/14 scale on brushless was a wheelie monster, had to use counter weights to keep the front down
Agreed it's overkill, but that's what makes this hobby fun. It's a chance to try stupid things and live like a kid again.
@@BillsWorkbenchcouldn’t have said it better
Completely disagree. A PN Racing 3500Kv - 4500Kv sensored brushless motor/ESC combo would have been an amazing setup for racing.
They definitely are a handful my jrx2 mini with a hobbywing brushless on 3s blows 4s scts away while doing wheelies.
I do have one of those crap spektrum scx24 brushless setups that i will test fit in the micro b and see if it can finally not be a waste.
I will be receiving my Micro Bs today, so I haven't even really gotten the chance to look at it in person yet. I certainly hope that you are able to find a solution to this quandary. For me, i am not sure I would need any extra torque or speed, but the thought of going back to maintaining a brushed motor for peak performance is not relished.
Please keep us updated if/when you find something that works. I am really excited about the proposition of a brushless setup.
BTW! I spoke yesterday with Horizon Hobby, and asking about a brushless option, it doesn't look like there will be an official option available; though in fairness the tech did later sort of retract the statement by saying they were neither confirming nor denying that Losi will come out with one. So don't take my comments with TOO much seriousness, because the tech may/may not know what they are talking about.
I am still looking for an excellent brushless solution. I am almost there, just need to get the Pinion figured out. However, the RC world is very different today than it was years ago. It's like everything else it's becoming disposable. Which is unfortunate in may aspects. But with that said, I found a 55T brushed motor that was made for the SCX 24 crawlers that add a bunch of punch to the Micro B, enough that it's noticeable. That motor is inexpensive and not serviceable, but by the time it fails, there will be another upgrade to do or get a replacement of that motor. This is the motor I am talking about: amzn.to/4dARrEB
You are so right. Things have changed so much within just 10 years or so (how long it has been since I picked up my RC stuff, because of other hobbies).
Did you replace a brushed with another brushed fir giggles, or were you having issues with the stock motor? As for myself, I am not really concerned about a brushed replacement (short of house brand). I still have some new motors from back in the day when I raced Xmods and Mini-Zs. The Tamiya Plasma Dash motors were the ship back in the day. I am not certain that they would line up, but they are relatively similar sized, and shape as well. And boy do they add some real punch (and top end) to both brands mentioned. Of course I would also jave to play with gearing as well. Have you messed with the spur and/or the pinion yet, or is there not enough room for anything but smaller gears in there?
The worst part about the 030s is the fastener placements. With the weird shape, they have 15mm hight and a 12mm with so the put the mounting points at an angle for along the height to get a larger separation for stability. But that means any brushless motor (spherical) will have to have 1mm to have half the screw thickness + the thread thickness + the side wall.
Yes that is what I am finding. It's going to take some work to make this thing brushless. But that's the fun, and it's a hobby.
@@BillsWorkbench I hope losi or a third party come out with an conversion kit, im waiting to by the micro-t or micro desert truck they have hinted at, so ill be waiting to see.
@@tangarz5357 the desert truck sounds cool
I will be going with a Furitek sensored esc with a Hellfire 5500kv sensored motor
I looked at that one. Let me know how it works.
@@BillsWorkbench It's 15mm in diameter so it will more than likely not work. If the Surpass 3500Kv won't fit then neither will any other motor that size. Bunch of morons over there at Losi.
@senorpinchegringo7623 I got the idea from Somebody That has already used this setup and turn the car into a beast the only thing Is you have to fab a motor plate
I have a generic micro brushless combo from amazon. Wonder if it will fit. I just backordered a Micro B. This ought to be fun.
If it fits. It needs to be 12mm dia. 15mm is too big.
Put the furitek motor FURITEK GREYHOUND 1410 7500KV and fire on the moon 👌👌
I don't know how well that would fit without taking a Dremel to it.
Subscribed, i was thinking about getting a micro b for this same purpose. on the wltoys 284161 i used a rocketrc 9800kv. looks like that probably wont fit in here though
Not without modifications. But I got some ideas for a 15mm motor.
@@BillsWorkbench Will look forward to it. I went back and checked and I was incorrect, it was not a RocketRC motor but a Leopard 1625 motor. 16mm so definitely too big. It turned that WLToys into an uncontrollable rocketship though.
I have an older carisma gt24mt that i cant get parts for. I wonder if that motor would fit? 8000KV Micro 130 Can
That is a neat looking car. That motor (12000kv micro 130) is too large it's 16mm in diameter. It's got to be 12mm.
What model receiver are you using? I recently switched to a Noble 4 radio. And have been collecting mini RCs. Hobby Plus, FMS, Scx24s. And mostly have done motor and esc swaps to brushless to do away from the esc and receiver all in ones. My goal is to have all of my rigs work with my Noble NB4. Some I haven’t been able to swap cause of the tiny white connectors. Would appreciate the help.
I went with this one: Flysky GMr Receiver, 2.4GHz 4CH AFHDS 3 amzn.to/4eGILxv. You will still need a brushed ESC.
Are you sure the esc will fit under the body once you find the right motor?
Fingers Crossed. But it's a rather small ESC.
Did the micro use a sliper clutch inside the plastic can?
No there is no slipper it's a planetary diff inside.
I’m curious if you can get a beefier brushed motor with more thermal mass. Maybe somehow use a custom heat sink. Then Increase the pinion for a bit more top end speed.
I think 20 mph would be perfect
That motor fits in there like a glove. You would need to find a good match, also there is not any adjustments for the pinion without taking a rat tail file to the mount.
PN Racing makes 50T and lower turn brushed motors that will probably accomplish what you are trying to do. Whether the stock ESC/Receiver combo will handle them is another question.
@@BillsWorkbench Dang. Might just need to runs stock then. Which I’m fine with.
I pre ordered my car over a week ago. How are yall getting your cars already?
@@John-shreds Lucky? I ordered mine the first day I heard about it.
I just ordered mine from AMain, rather than HH, which has them shipping in November, and the extra batteries in Feb of 2025. Needless to say, I canceled my order with HH. 🙂
Got them inside of a week.
I just got mine and i noticed that the steering to the right is a lot worse then steering to the left, if you figure out how to fix it let me know. thanks!
I'll take a look
Mine is too. Three things.
1. Make sure that your ST knob on the right of the radio is turned up all the way. That is steering rate.
2. There is a turnbuckle kit from Losi Performance that may help, you would need to give it a bit of toe in.
3. There is some space between the end of the servo horn and the frame that I might have enough room to make a 3d printed part to extend the arm. That's a project for this week, while waiting on the motor to arrive.
i'll try the turnbuckles
I fixed by moving servo horn a tiny bit to the right and that helped to even out the steering
I found out that the SLT2 radio can actually adjust left and right endpoints independently. Google the manual and you'll get the instructions on how to do this. The unequal left and right throw was driving me nuts until I found this fix. :)
Look at the mini z brushless moter it looks like the same size and shape as the original moter
There’s no mounting holes on the mini z
@@Wadinator038 that sucks but maybe company’s will make conversation parts so they can mount different moters if not you can always 3d print a mount if you cant find a moter to fit 🙂
There is not much room for a different motor, but I got some ideas. The pinion will become the issue.
@@No-rh6zp Regarding using a Kyohso brushless motor, that's probably not going to be possible since the Kyosho motor needs to be supported by a mount at each end due to it not having any screw holes. Losi screwed up and this release is a complete waste of time due to the fact that it doesn't accommodate 15mm diameter motors. FYI all the motors that are made for the 1/28th are 15mm in diameter.
Do you think the Hobbywing motors for mini Z would fit?
That’s what I was thinking
No, the only one I could find was a generic 1220 brushless motor. You need a maximum 12mm diameter can. The Hobbywings are 15mm. I have it on order; I want to ensure it fits. before I get everyone excited about ordering a motor that will not work.
Subscribe to keep an eye on this exciting build?
Should this make the car faster?
@@jacobemry1018 The radio conversion will not but it will be better because I will not need to take another radio with me to the track. There are also more settings in the radio, like a throttle curve that makes me quicker. The brushless motor will either make this thing a rocket ship, or not. There is only one way to find out, and that is to try it.
Thanks for the video. You just saved me a bunch of money. I don't think Losi knows what they are doing, Horizon needs to fire some people. How do you release a micro and not make it compatible with 15mm diameter motors? This release is now completely worthless and a wasted opportunity. What a bummer.
Thank you for the feedback. Looking at it for what it is a $99.00 car that is of good quality, I am happy with the chance to tinker and run it around a bit.
@@senorpinchegringo7623 not only that but it really doesn’t need much more than it has it genuinely moves🤣 I got mine in and I might return the brushless motor and Esc that I got for it
Don't forget Losi has these made in China it's not a xxx. Also I have hairy hands and I'm going to ask my wife if she finds them attractive, because I never really thought about it. Maybe she does, ok wish me luck😮
Wishing Luck!
I've been looking into removing the 65t stock motor and installing a injora 48t motor.. That would probably wake it up
Careful it needs to be a 030 or 050 size