I love the 4C or 5C charging capability, but something that has been likely not talked about much is battery life : how many cycles can such battery endure before being degraded to 80% of its original capacity ?
@@LeMay-f7p That the issue, we don’t know the number of battery cycles it can endure while still being under warranty (so still being over 80% of its original capacity) ? For EVs, I would say that a minimum should be at least ~1500 cycles (I think LFP battery packs are usually warrantied for ~3000 cycles and can actually most of the times do much more than that (6000 cycles)).
This is not anywhere near my price bracket but would love seeing some lower levels made of this van. Would be interesting to see how reviewers that can test it will react.
i watch a real time video showing how fast the car is being charge, by 10 minutes of charging from 10 percent it almost reach near 500km of range about 490km, this is while the video was shot live without cutting while he do a walk in interior review, i think the 12 minute fast charge is real.
I saw a review of this van where the reviewer did a 8% to 77% recharge while doing the review. He showed the current time on his phone as he was doing it. It was a totally amazing review. That thing got charged in 10 minutes. It's fast! But I think it has NMC batteries so I would not buy it even if I could and had the money.
@@agusedyanto3324 maybe, but right now I would only consider lfp or maybe sodium in the future. But that van is amazing. It is HUGE with a 102 KW batter and it charges so fast.
Many folks who don't go off-road and have big families or need to carry many passengers will find this very appealing. Presumably, it a smooth freeway cruiser, and fridge is a nice feature. Good to see them transitioning to battery-only mode; the future, for sure.
We went to have a look at the Mega last night (in Chengdu). It is a cool looking vehicle compared to its competitors, the Zeeker and its brother the Volvo. We are currently in the market for something like this. The advertised range and charging speed is very good. Inside I was a little surprised, materials used do not stand up even to the Zeeker and certainly not the Volvo which has in our opinion a more premium feel. The biggest eye opener for me was the space available, this is longer than it’s competitors and I expected there to be more internal space for seating but the third row is unusable when placing the second row in a comfortable position. It barely has any more space than my nearly eight year old Model X. This is down to poor packaging and oversized captain’s chairs in the second row. It is very aggressively priced and if range and recharge speed is paramount this is the best of the bunch. If comfort and luxury with slightly less range is your thing there are better offerings.
I want the Li Auto Mega and when I Have it it will be tuned…light tuning will exchange the front panel for a translucent one and install the Cybertruck Frontlight bar into it…Cyber Auto Mega !
they probably don't unclip easily but they won't be welded in so you could find a way to unbolt them. I would do it if I had one of these, and fit swivels on the front seats, could be a lovely camper home
I basically live in a 6 m hiroof Volkswagen crafter here at the Gold Coast. I'm desperately waiting for EV vans to catch up so this is a step in the right direction
Li auto from what i have observed makes quality cars..infact the only car to beat Tesla in least customer complaints and thats for a Hybrid manufacturer beating the top EV maker! the look of this car is polarizing for sure..a design like that will appeal mostly to Europeans i would suspect..they would sell well in europe..xpeng x9 will however sell more to the masses.. it is more in line with Tesla typa designs i would say..but its a great car and their claims about speed of charging etc are correct from what some testers have stated on their channels...(live testing shown)...
The car/van/MPV distinctions belong in the ICE era. This is the logical shape for all EVs, whatever the size. Three-box designs separated the noisy engine from the passengers. If houses were built like cars they would have doors that you have to stoop to enter and very low ceilings. The realisation that EV components allow a tall vehicle with loads of interior space and good visibility without compromising drag or handling is taking time to sink in. The first cars looked like horseless carriages, and most EVs look like engineless cars. Li Auto is showing the way.
@yulusleonard985 Byd stopped ice production in March 2022. Their pure ev and hybrids sales are almost equal in amount. Pure ev slightly more, around 54% of their total monthly sales.
Common Sam… it is just as gangsta as these yobos in Vauxhall corsas in the U.K. 😂. Also who cares about such acceleration? Are people running late for the next set of traffic lights in 100m? The whole power chase is idiotic. Give me an efficient car with decent range and 7-9 sec 0-60. My car has got 16.7 sec 0-60 and I’m usually the first guy from the traffic lights here in Korea. Nobody cares. Nobody. The only downside is when joining 70km/h motorway from standing still - a very particular situation and the only time I wish I had more power.
I can’t buy that drag co. With the flat rear end. Someone throw it on a smoke machine. 441m is about what is needed minimum. Because I would bet it was tested without 7 people in it. And to account for cold weather and battery longevity. 441 is a usable 350. Which is just about what’s needed. …just
@@guringai If you are charging electric cars in Europe the price is ridiculous. Up to 0.85€. Not worth it at all compared to diesel cars and low fuel consumption, driving electric cars is way more expensive! I am talking about public chargers where you usually need to go if your trip is more than 200-300km in one way. Most electric cars get 200-300km range, it's even worse during winter. First you pay this much and then you also wait long until your charge is complete. Those charging companies in Europe just want to maximize their profits. Even more than gas stations.
The Li Mega is the ugliest car I have seen in a long time. The Xpeng X9 looks better, is cheaper, and has much more features, among them is the real wheel steering. I think the Mega will be a flop.
I think it looks great, very similar to my recently deceased 1994 Toyota estima mpv. the back could have been a bit better. the hyundai staria also looks good to me.. but then I hate most car designs over the last 15 years
Li auto has just become the third profitable EV manufacturer in the last quarter even though most of their manufactured vehicles are Plug-In Hybrids.
Pure EVs aren't realistic unless you have TEsla like supercharing network. PHEV is a practical way to transition into EVs
Technology is moving at a faster pace 🎉❤
It's a great van man cheers mate
The design of Mega is quite controversial, but the battery technology is top notch.
I love the 4C or 5C charging capability, but something that has been likely not talked about much is battery life : how many cycles can such battery endure before being degraded to 80% of its original capacity ?
@@nicolasdujarrier Depends on how often you use supercharger
@@nicolasdujarrier400km*1000=400000km
@@LeMay-f7p That the issue, we don’t know the number of battery cycles it can endure while still being under warranty (so still being over 80% of its original capacity) ? For EVs, I would say that a minimum should be at least ~1500 cycles (I think LFP battery packs are usually warrantied for ~3000 cycles and can actually most of the times do much more than that (6000 cycles)).
@@nicolasdujarrier
Indeed, in terms of battery life, LFP and sodium batteries are the best, even though their density is lower
This is not anywhere near my price bracket but would love seeing some lower levels made of this van. Would be interesting to see how reviewers that can test it will react.
I don’t need either one but if I had to choose, I’d take the Li Auto van over the Cybertruck any day of the week.
Inside China Auto(ICA) channel tested the charging on its channel so it’s proven that the charging speed is insane!
i watch a real time video showing how fast the car is being charge, by 10 minutes of charging from 10 percent it almost reach near 500km of range about 490km, this is while the video was shot live without cutting while he do a walk in interior review, i think the 12 minute fast charge is real.
I saw a review of this van where the reviewer did a 8% to 77% recharge while doing the review. He showed the current time on his phone as he was doing it. It was a totally amazing review. That thing got charged in 10 minutes. It's fast! But I think it has NMC batteries so I would not buy it even if I could and had the money.
I think with the development of security technology, NMC battery technology will become equivalent to LFP
@@agusedyanto3324 maybe, but right now I would only consider lfp or maybe sodium in the future. But that van is amazing. It is HUGE with a 102 KW batter and it charges so fast.
Many folks who don't go off-road and have big families or need to carry many passengers will find this very appealing. Presumably, it a smooth freeway cruiser, and fridge is a nice feature. Good to see them transitioning to battery-only mode; the future, for sure.
Looks like my old Prius, but with the back end stretched out
We went to have a look at the Mega last night (in Chengdu). It is a cool looking vehicle compared to its competitors, the Zeeker and its brother the Volvo. We are currently in the market for something like this. The advertised range and charging speed is very good. Inside I was a little surprised, materials used do not stand up even to the Zeeker and certainly not the Volvo which has in our opinion a more premium feel. The biggest eye opener for me was the space available, this is longer than it’s competitors and I expected there to be more internal space for seating but the third row is unusable when placing the second row in a comfortable position. It barely has any more space than my nearly eight year old Model X. This is down to poor packaging and oversized captain’s chairs in the second row. It is very aggressively priced and if range and recharge speed is paramount this is the best of the bunch. If comfort and luxury with slightly less range is your thing there are better offerings.
I want the Li Auto Mega and when I Have it it will be tuned…light tuning will exchange the front panel for a translucent one and install the Cybertruck Frontlight bar into it…Cyber Auto Mega !
Can the rear two rows of seats be removed?
they probably don't unclip easily but they won't be welded in so you could find a way to unbolt them. I would do it if I had one of these, and fit swivels on the front seats, could be a lovely camper home
Thank you for this content.
Afternoon mate
I basically live in a 6 m hiroof Volkswagen crafter here at the Gold Coast. I'm desperately waiting for EV vans to catch up so this is a step in the right direction
Li auto from what i have observed makes quality cars..infact the only car to beat Tesla in least customer complaints and thats for a Hybrid manufacturer beating the top EV maker!
the look of this car is polarizing for sure..a design like that will appeal mostly to Europeans i would suspect..they would sell well in europe..xpeng x9 will however sell more to the masses..
it is more in line with Tesla typa designs i would say..but its a great car and their claims about speed of charging etc are correct from what some testers have stated on their channels...(live testing shown)...
The car/van/MPV distinctions belong in the ICE era. This is the logical shape for all EVs, whatever the size. Three-box designs separated the noisy engine from the passengers. If houses were built like cars they would have doors that you have to stoop to enter and very low ceilings. The realisation that EV components allow a tall vehicle with loads of interior space and good visibility without compromising drag or handling is taking time to sink in. The first cars looked like horseless carriages, and most EVs look like engineless cars. Li Auto is showing the way.
Nice van Sam
The drag coefficient is better than a Model 3 and is due to the smooth body and tapered rear end.
zeekr 009 MPV 0-100km/h 4.5s
This thing makes Zeekr 009 looks “old school bus”
Like the style and range but I think VW Buzz is more practical and more versatile.
Buzz is more like a commercial van, MEGA is a pure luxury family MPV.
I'd love to see what West Coast Customs would do to this thing. 👀
Big wheels and a sound system boring!
If it could get 440 miles at highway speed, they better put in a porta pottty
How is this posible?
12mins to charge from 10-80?
You better believe it as another channel did a test, in fact it was under 12 mins!
Strip all those seats out and make it into an actual van and i could happily make use of it
why would anyone want to feel like a gangster
It reminds me on my old AUDI A2 !?
This model Mega is a COFFIN CAR in China😂 In Mainland china they avoid this car because it is a taboo to them, looks like coffin to them😂
I just have to ask... How much are they losing per vehicle?
Most of Chinese manufacturer still produce ICE or Hybrids. Even BYD, majority of their sales are ICE/Hybrid.
@yulusleonard985
Byd stopped ice production in March 2022. Their pure ev and hybrids sales are almost equal in amount. Pure ev slightly more, around 54% of their total monthly sales.
They are going bankrupt soon as you expected.
Um...Boosted Bois...Honda Plaidessey.
Looks very sci-fi
Common Sam… it is just as gangsta as these yobos in Vauxhall corsas in the U.K. 😂. Also who cares about such acceleration? Are people running late for the next set of traffic lights in 100m? The whole power chase is idiotic. Give me an efficient car with decent range and 7-9 sec 0-60. My car has got 16.7 sec 0-60 and I’m usually the first guy from the traffic lights here in Korea. Nobody cares. Nobody. The only downside is when joining 70km/h motorway from standing still - a very particular situation and the only time I wish I had more power.
It’s nice but not sure if it’s all that impressive.
$79,000 lol to get basically what my. $11,000 2008 Toyota Yaris gets with mpg. My Toyota fills up in a minute. Just comedy
@@johnsmith-cw3wo this car is spacious inside believe it or not it's surprising by looking at outside just how roomy it is. I Live it for 6 years
@@johnsmith-cw3wo nonsense liar I'm 6'1
I can’t buy that drag co. With the flat rear end. Someone throw it on a smoke machine. 441m is about what is needed minimum. Because I would bet it was tested without 7 people in it. And to account for cold weather and battery longevity. 441 is a usable 350. Which is just about what’s needed. …just
their rating system is different, so take off 100-200+km.
It is perfect funeral car
haha, that's the view of most peoplr
CYBERVAN?
Closely resembles a cyber truck
Li auto sells PHEV only, no EVs.
What is MPV?
It seems Multi purpose vehicle.
Another sign that EV is dead.
Charging electric cars is much more expensive than diesel cars
That's ridiculous - at least on Australia.
Rooftop solar is literally 90% cheaper.
& way more convenient
@@guringai If you are charging electric cars in Europe the price is ridiculous. Up to 0.85€. Not worth it at all compared to diesel cars and low fuel consumption, driving electric cars is way more expensive! I am talking about public chargers where you usually need to go if your trip is more than 200-300km in one way. Most electric cars get 200-300km range, it's even worse during winter. First you pay this much and then you also wait long until your charge is complete. Those charging companies in Europe just want to maximize their profits. Even more than gas stations.
The Li Mega is the ugliest car I have seen in a long time. The Xpeng X9 looks better, is cheaper, and has much more features, among them is the real wheel steering. I think the Mega will be a flop.
I think it looks great, very similar to my recently deceased 1994 Toyota estima mpv. the back could have been a bit better. the hyundai staria also looks good to me.. but then I hate most car designs over the last 15 years
Large MPVs are very popular here in Asean.
Ugly and cool at once.
Thanks Electric Viking ⚡️⚡️⚡️
VW can go home with their idbuzz
It’s looks like hearse
12 minutes? May be the battery life is max 4 yrs
I wonder the same question : for how many cycles is battery warrantied before reaching 80% ?
I doubt the owner supercharge like crazy. Its a long distance family car not daily commute.
Li Auto is probably the only Chinese EV makers with original designs. Most others like Xpeng and BYD are Tesla copy cats.
Changan Avatr 11 and 12 are far better designs than any Tesla models. The same with Geely Zeekr models.
Zeekr 009 is the fastest MPV. FYI.