2 f*cking legends trying to build a better community for everyone, even if that means losing a bunch of money sometimes. This is something the entire world could learn from. Too much greed everywhere, where instead you guys help peoples dreams come true. Legends.
lol, after doing 450 videos on this channel we are getting a bit weird lol. We have to do things to entertain ourselves like film interviews in a very different fashion lol.
this was an awesome interview, I personally never had to ask them for car parts during DW3 but I felt comfortable knowing that they had the drivers back.
I wonder if something like a $20k series would work? If at any point someone thinks a car is worth more than $20k, the car can be bought from the owner (and owner has to sell it) Could be 10-15-20-25k or whatever. Closer you get to that budget level, the higher the risk someone buys it out. But then I guess you would have competition buy out teams at the top.
@@LoneStarDrift Panama City, Panama(Central America) so much potential being a virgin market here gaining force just a couple years ago when we got our first racetrack... TRC has a video of a Black E30 2jz
That's why I order everything from Drift HQ, got free t-shirt on my last order too! I am hoping to go to drift week one day in a 400Z. Sadly, I don't want to be stuck wrenching on this old Nissan for drift week at drift week and rather have a new platform and engine to abuse instead. I prefer more driving time over wrenching time. For now just getting seat time, eating k-bbq and drinking coronas at chill drift events all day with friends in my Silvia S13 and playing around with different setups so I understand what I like and how to do it once I go 400z. Having a couple of Coronas just before going out to drift really smoothes out my transitions and makes me smoother i.e worry less about crashing haha.
Really love your content bro. As a very serious newb, I’m learning a ton about the industry and the “sport”. Overheard you talking at FD Utah, hope to chat with you at an event one day.
12:20 This is the most important thing to me. There's no in between right now other than Klutch Kickers. I think they have changed the game, FD is unattainable for most drifters but Klutch Kickers is something that can be done.
Another point drawn from this conversation is age and longevity as a driver or support role. One guy says, 'I want to keep on drifting, his life's built around it. The top FD drivers, mechanics, organisers are no longer 'youth's'. The sport is promoted to young people however the participants are aging out of that category. So, acceptance and orientation to a middle aged community with parallel opportunities for drift drivers etc to use their skills in complementary race settings. Maybe Autocross and drift events could be held together. There needs to be an idea of progression from drifting to a broader driving experiences.
As someone that started in the lower levels of short track racing at 9 yrs old, I think it might be time for drifting to explore different classes for cars like grassroots oval tracks have. I feel like that's not fully in the spirit of drifting, but that's the best way to keep cost under control. Also more seat time availability would help the scene, we could run 25 races a year in a Legend car for the same pit fee cost of like 5-10 iTrack events or similar.
Speaking of Legends cars and their low cost to operate. I recently bought an old legends car to play with as a kart track drift car. There's a lot of potential in repurposing these and dwarf cars to drifting. That would actually be as very easy way to create a cheap spec class.
23:03 hey. I didn't pay for that angle kit. hahaha. Just bought a turbo blanket and some coilpacks to keep the car running. went through 3 used original injectors because the index 12 warrantied got sent to home lol
The way I see it. Try and just make it televised. Meaning on RUclips so people can watch it. That’s why I watch fd or drift masters, it’s because I can watch drifting online because I don’t live near a track. It could make drivers popular which could possibly help them grow
2:56 iirc the only major rule of thumb with Brazilian names, is names that start with “R’s” are pronounced as “H’s”.. like the name Renan is pronounced “Henan”, other than that they are fairly easy to pronounce.
14:30 I fully agree. Drifting does not need a formal competition atmosphere. It's so much more fun to play follow the leader with your friends than it is to be judged by someone in a formal setting. If you look a rock crawling, the vast majority of people who race get out of the hobby within a few years. It's the guys who do it recreationally, for fun, with their close group of friends, without following any silly rule books and build stuff without boundaries who have progressed the sport the most and maintained a love for the sport without burning out. I have lost countless friends to Ultra 4. It's not so much an achievement as it is a path to burn out and financial ruin.
What happened specifically to Ultra 4? People just get wrapped up in the racing and spend all their time and money doing it? The cool thing about Ultra 4 is it pushed the sport really far and really fast, I was into off roading in the 90s, and I still have a rock crawler and my Humvee, and it is soooo different now it is almost unrecognizable!
@@LoneStarDrift they build a $150k car that needs constant preventative maintenance. They get tied up in contracts and obligations to sponsors or affiliates. They travel all over on a race schedule. They can no longer risk their comp car for trail riding. Comp car is not easy to see out of. Is not conducive to trail riding and ultimately becomes U4 only. So they stop rec wheeling. Comps become exhausting. Ultimately bitterness sets in. Winners are typically natural born talent with a shop owner at the wheel who fundamentally understands all aspects of the car, physics and the business. Long story short go have fun and stop measuring dicks with LLC's. Put that money into infrastructure.
It would totally be possible if the tracks would go for it. We are actually pretty well off for tracks for a small country, but getting on the roads will be harder.
@@dariok9118 a lot of European countries have way higher standards/rules for cars to drive on the road. (it is bizarre to see how unsafe/crappy cars can drive in certain states in the US.)
Drifting needs a "low" power, low displacement, small wheel competition series, and if I'm being really picky no spools or welded diffs. One fuel sponsor, one tire sponsor.
there are comps with tire rules, which limit the power by the fact that u cant put it down anyway, not sure what displacement has to do with anything really? why no welded diffs? why limit the tire sponsors? fuel? this is confusing
@@JRcrib Why is drifting sideways drag cars at the top levels and why do you prefer it that way? Limiting power, displacement, fuel, and tires brings down costs while raising the level of competitive driving. Spools completely change vehicle dynamics and resulting suspension setups. Helical and clutch type diffs see available for just about every platform, and when they are trying to deal with clutch kicks with 1000hp they shouldn't have any problems standing up to the abuse.
Also, stupid high power high grip cars do that wonderfully FD thing of nearly coming to a stop while keeping the tires spinning with little to no angle on the car. I want to see momentum and angle not burn out machines.
Given how fielding said it cost him 10-15k to do drift week. I can definitely say As far as competing in kk series right now is definitely cheaper than or almost equal to that cost but you get to drive with world class drivers with 100k+ 1k hp monsters while you have a 5k 250hp 350z. You'll never get a chance to see how you stack up against them unless you're in fd which is unattainable for most drifters and could win 10k which definitely covers the cost per round. So I'd say it's definitely the new thing right nowm
its kind of a weird that aaron wants to have all these opinions or hot takes and then when someone asks him to elaborate he just deflects and sais he shouldnt be the one to give his opinion or take on the subject
i want to see events where the prize pool is a good majoity of the buy in fees. and just scale the buy in to how big the drivers wanna pay in in like a pre meeting or something.
Lol and aaron just proved the fd point, if you win 50,000 in fd thats nothing to a team, if you win 50,000 at klutch kickers by yourself it makes a big difference
Well, what do you know, an informed and considered discussion about money and participation in sport, the Arts or whatever creative lesuire activity you're into. No money in the beginning unless you already have it or you've conned some people into subsidising a You Tube channel. Big money or opportunities at the top. Expensive sport drifting. Other types of motorsport usually feature family race teams where it's an intergenerational thing. Racing is part of family life. A diversion for a moment. A musician has to buy all of their own gear, usually pay to organise shows where a return is unlikely cause the band pays for the venue, security, sound system, advertising, recording, which people then expect to consume for free. Slim chances of ever getting a payday, even worse for painters and writers. The things we do?
I know that these guys work hard but the constant thing of not making money it’s just not true. Anyone that had worked for a retailer knows they make a killing on what they sell, and car parts are not the exception. Also organizing events has to make them money because a lot goes into it and no one works for the hell of it
I don't think any of the big teams spend 10 million. I think the easiest thing to cap would be tire wear or something, I don't think anyone wants to do accounting or anything. I don't understand how even Formula 1 realistically audits the teams for spending, as there are a million ways to cheat that.
@@LoneStarDrift Understandable. For the next drift week, or next drift event rather, there could be a "street legal" class, "barely legal class" (stock chassis, engine swapped, or something), and then an "all-out" class, with tire width/thread cap weight cap, and horsepower cap to separate the classes
@@akilh340 you know that drift week isn't comp series. it's a week of drifting in different tracks and hanging out with people who loves drifting. Aaron does street legal events in Texas
Its crazy he sees the fb stuff lol im in a e36 drift group on fb and i always recommend drift hq ,just because its really great quality stuff and you get it within days
Duarte is the man! Love them DriftHQ boys. Thanks for all that you guys do.
2 f*cking legends trying to build a better community for everyone, even if that means losing a bunch of money sometimes. This is something the entire world could learn from. Too much greed everywhere, where instead you guys help peoples dreams come true. Legends.
I love the ambiance and framing of the video, but towards the end I felt like a creeper spying in the bushes on 2 people talking hahaha
lol, after doing 450 videos on this channel we are getting a bit weird lol. We have to do things to entertain ourselves like film interviews in a very different fashion lol.
this was an awesome interview, I personally never had to ask them for car parts during DW3 but I felt comfortable knowing that they had the drivers back.
I wonder if something like a $20k series would work? If at any point someone thinks a car is worth more than $20k, the car can be bought from the owner (and owner has to sell it) Could be 10-15-20-25k or whatever. Closer you get to that budget level, the higher the risk someone buys it out. But then I guess you would have competition buy out teams at the top.
Two of the best things that happened to drifting , thank you both 🙏🏼
I dont even drift, i dont even have a rwd car, i dont even live in the usa and got my mind blown and my eyes open
What part?
This is my response to almost all of Aaron's interviews, always blowing my mind with the back end of drifting
@@LoneStarDrift Panama City, Panama(Central America) so much potential being a virgin market here gaining force just a couple years ago when we got our first racetrack... TRC has a video of a Black E30 2jz
That's why I order everything from Drift HQ, got free t-shirt on my last order too! I am hoping to go to drift week one day in a 400Z. Sadly, I don't want to be stuck wrenching on this old Nissan for drift week at drift week and rather have a new platform and engine to abuse instead. I prefer more driving time over wrenching time. For now just getting seat time, eating k-bbq and drinking coronas at chill drift events all day with friends in my Silvia S13 and playing around with different setups so I understand what I like and how to do it once I go 400z. Having a couple of Coronas just before going out to drift really smoothes out my transitions and makes me smoother i.e worry less about crashing haha.
Really love your content bro. As a very serious newb, I’m learning a ton about the industry and the “sport”. Overheard you talking at FD Utah, hope to chat with you at an event one day.
12:20 This is the most important thing to me. There's no in between right now other than Klutch Kickers. I think they have changed the game, FD is unattainable for most drifters but Klutch Kickers is something that can be done.
Another point drawn from this conversation is age and longevity as a driver or support role. One guy says, 'I want to keep on drifting, his life's built around it. The top FD drivers, mechanics, organisers are no longer 'youth's'. The sport is promoted to young people however the participants are aging out of that category. So, acceptance and orientation to a middle aged community with parallel opportunities for drift drivers etc to use their skills in complementary race settings. Maybe Autocross and drift events could be held together. There needs to be an idea of progression from drifting to a broader driving experiences.
As someone that started in the lower levels of short track racing at 9 yrs old, I think it might be time for drifting to explore different classes for cars like grassroots oval tracks have. I feel like that's not fully in the spirit of drifting, but that's the best way to keep cost under control. Also more seat time availability would help the scene, we could run 25 races a year in a Legend car for the same pit fee cost of like 5-10 iTrack events or similar.
Speaking of Legends cars and their low cost to operate. I recently bought an old legends car to play with as a kart track drift car. There's a lot of potential in repurposing these and dwarf cars to drifting. That would actually be as very easy way to create a cheap spec class.
Shout-out to sponsors 👍👍👍
You should look into the mobile lift guy that follows the race week guys. Having a lift at the track would be amazing!
23:03
hey. I didn't pay for that angle kit. hahaha.
Just bought a turbo blanket and some coilpacks to keep the car running. went through 3 used original injectors because the index 12 warrantied got sent to home lol
Great content man. Loving your channel from New Zealand.
The way I see it. Try and just make it televised. Meaning on RUclips so people can watch it. That’s why I watch fd or drift masters, it’s because I can watch drifting online because I don’t live near a track. It could make drivers popular which could possibly help them grow
Haha the background made the vibes so much diffrent! 🤣
Legit, Drift Week is bucket list for me now. I mean it has been from the beginning.
I forgot about Drift week till I have seen hert life blogz 🥳
this was incredibly insightful
“I feel like piece of crap not working when I should be managing”
Such a stand up guy.
DriftWeek really is a beautiful thing. 01:50 - 02:37 He said it all.
2:56 iirc the only major rule of thumb with Brazilian names, is names that start with “R’s” are pronounced as “H’s”.. like the name Renan is pronounced “Henan”, other than that they are fairly easy to pronounce.
14:30
I fully agree. Drifting does not need a formal competition atmosphere. It's so much more fun to play follow the leader with your friends than it is to be judged by someone in a formal setting. If you look a rock crawling, the vast majority of people who race get out of the hobby within a few years. It's the guys who do it recreationally, for fun, with their close group of friends, without following any silly rule books and build stuff without boundaries who have progressed the sport the most and maintained a love for the sport without burning out.
I have lost countless friends to Ultra 4. It's not so much an achievement as it is a path to burn out and financial ruin.
What happened specifically to Ultra 4? People just get wrapped up in the racing and spend all their time and money doing it? The cool thing about Ultra 4 is it pushed the sport really far and really fast, I was into off roading in the 90s, and I still have a rock crawler and my Humvee, and it is soooo different now it is almost unrecognizable!
@@LoneStarDrift they build a $150k car that needs constant preventative maintenance. They get tied up in contracts and obligations to sponsors or affiliates. They travel all over on a race schedule. They can no longer risk their comp car for trail riding. Comp car is not easy to see out of. Is not conducive to trail riding and ultimately becomes U4 only. So they stop rec wheeling. Comps become exhausting. Ultimately bitterness sets in. Winners are typically natural born talent with a shop owner at the wheel who fundamentally understands all aspects of the car, physics and the business.
Long story short go have fun and stop measuring dicks with LLC's. Put that money into infrastructure.
with the clear success of this event, it makes me wonder if somthing like this would be possible in the uk!
It would totally be possible if the tracks would go for it. We are actually pretty well off for tracks for a small country, but getting on the roads will be harder.
It would probably even possible for an European tour not even small countries.... I mean look at Drift Week they’re doing thousands of miles
@@dariok9118 a lot of European countries have way higher standards/rules for cars to drive on the road. (it is bizarre to see how unsafe/crappy cars can drive in certain states in the US.)
@@basberend yeah you'd think I know since i live in germany and have to settle with TÜV :D
Drifting needs a "low" power, low displacement, small wheel competition series, and if I'm being really picky no spools or welded diffs. One fuel sponsor, one tire sponsor.
FD should lift the rule about chassis improvement and make a 1000hp class for "pro unlimited" or something similar.
-_-
there are comps with tire rules, which limit the power by the fact that u cant put it down anyway, not sure what displacement has to do with anything really? why no welded diffs? why limit the tire sponsors? fuel? this is confusing
@@JRcrib Why is drifting sideways drag cars at the top levels and why do you prefer it that way? Limiting power, displacement, fuel, and tires brings down costs while raising the level of competitive driving. Spools completely change vehicle dynamics and resulting suspension setups. Helical and clutch type diffs see available for just about every platform, and when they are trying to deal with clutch kicks with 1000hp they shouldn't have any problems standing up to the abuse.
Also, stupid high power high grip cars do that wonderfully FD thing of nearly coming to a stop while keeping the tires spinning with little to no angle on the car. I want to see momentum and angle not burn out machines.
There’s a guy who follows drag week with 2 post lift mounted to a small trailer. Lol. He charges by the hour.
This was a great podcast.
Given how fielding said it cost him 10-15k to do drift week. I can definitely say As far as competing in kk series right now is definitely cheaper than or almost equal to that cost but you get to drive with world class drivers with 100k+ 1k hp monsters while you have a 5k 250hp 350z. You'll never get a chance to see how you stack up against them unless you're in fd which is unattainable for most drifters and could win 10k which definitely covers the cost per round. So I'd say it's definitely the new thing right nowm
its kind of a weird that aaron wants to have all these opinions or hot takes and then when someone asks him to elaborate he just deflects and sais he shouldnt be the one to give his opinion or take on the subject
Can you imagine Ben's Miata willing 1st in FD? lol
Not a chance in hell lol
I can just picture Aaron like
Hey Duarte, follow me to this lake and let’s talk about money and drifting
Duarte,.... ok hahaha
Shoutout to Duarte and the guys at Drift HQ! Best in the business🙏🏽
This shit is so interesting to me. I love the content you have been making.
You should put these interviews in podcast format on Spotify
WE NEED A DRIFT WEEK IN CANADA ... PLEASE Quebec is HOT for the drift seasons
Hopefully the whole KK team will be at Drift Week 4!!
not all heroes wear capes ♥️♥️
Dang, y’all are doing it right
that back drop is the best
👨🏻🔧DRIFT HQ!!
i want to see events where the prize pool is a good majoity of the buy in fees. and just scale the buy in to how big the drivers wanna pay in in like a pre meeting or something.
set it up in like 8 driver brackets.
and i think people should start betting drag style lol
100k otw
That would be great to be sponsors from drift HQ. How do I apply
hahaha Aaron your the best ....you scumbag him so good he said yes right away for the mecanic!!!!!!!!so good
very important interview.
Im still wauting for drew with the purple e36 vid
I would love to be one of the mechanics on the trip.
Lol and aaron just proved the fd point, if you win 50,000 in fd thats nothing to a team, if you win 50,000 at klutch kickers by yourself it makes a big difference
Support the community not an single drifter you will get more respect from you client base.
Well, what do you know, an informed and considered discussion about money and participation in sport, the Arts or whatever creative lesuire activity you're into. No money in the beginning unless you already have it or you've conned some people into subsidising a You Tube channel. Big money or opportunities at the top. Expensive sport drifting. Other types of motorsport usually feature family race teams where it's an intergenerational thing. Racing is part of family life. A diversion for a moment. A musician has to buy all of their own gear, usually pay to organise shows where a return is unlikely cause the band pays for the venue, security, sound system, advertising, recording, which people then expect to consume for free. Slim chances of ever getting a payday, even worse for painters and writers. The things we do?
I know that these guys work hard but the constant thing of not making money it’s just not true. Anyone that had worked for a retailer knows they make a killing on what they sell, and car parts are not the exception. Also organizing events has to make them money because a lot goes into it and no one works for the hell of it
They aren't making much money when you take into account their bottomline.
16:40 what if, similar to F1, FD establishes a cost cap?
Example: your entire campaign for 2022, in FD, can not exceed $10 million?
I don't think any of the big teams spend 10 million. I think the easiest thing to cap would be tire wear or something, I don't think anyone wants to do accounting or anything. I don't understand how even Formula 1 realistically audits the teams for spending, as there are a million ways to cheat that.
@@LoneStarDrift
Understandable.
For the next drift week, or next drift event rather, there could be a "street legal" class, "barely legal class" (stock chassis, engine swapped, or something), and then an "all-out" class, with tire width/thread cap weight cap, and horsepower cap to separate the classes
@@akilh340 you know that drift week isn't comp series. it's a week of drifting in different tracks and hanging out with people who loves drifting. Aaron does street legal events in Texas
@@bennypaddycake7182
You're right. I was just typing out an idea
That sound like goosiest
Holy shit ur right
@@diptarupghosh4431 like he pitches his voice up on RUclips 😆
Drift HQ is LEGIT ! Support them and LSD . You guys don't understand the importance of these guys for drifting.
Would You Guys Sponsor My Mazda Rx-7 Drift Build?
This guy is awesome but he talks like Chank Smith 😂
I hope you got paid.
Drifting is cheapppppp, I don't understand why everyone isn't doing it.
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Day 124 of asking Losey to make the podcast
This IS A PODCAST at this point lol!
@@LoneStarDrift hmmm, needs more NordVPN ad reads haha
@@LoneStarDrift get it audio put on Spotify please!
Its crazy he sees the fb stuff lol im in a e36 drift group on fb and i always recommend drift hq ,just because its really great quality stuff and you get it within days