I’ve never understood the outrage at the cost of taking part at the top level. I used to run rally cars here in Ireland, a group N car easily cost 10k a day, WRC could be up to 30k. That’s only at national level. Motorsport is expensive, be glad there are grassroots opportunities, be thankful people are willing to put in the time, effort and money to be at the top level. Evaluate what you want from it, want to hunt doors with your friends all day? Keep it cheap. Want to put big trophies in your cabinet? Figure out how to fund it.
Met Ben back in 2018 at a drift clinic at Lanier right after I bought my e36. He was in the pits right next to me and helped me learn some stuff that day. Stand up dude. Cool to see where he is now.
How is it weird to want to drive RX from progressing in FD? Look at Foust, Millen, Hubinette or even Vaughn. All went from drifting to RX and Ultra 4 along with many other drivers that move through FD to other forms of motorsport. FD is one of the CHEAPEST professional forms of motorsport and it provides tons of viewership and recognition to fans, sponsors and manufacturers that can help support you throughout your progression into other forms of motorsports. Just to run a short season in RX (5 or so races) will easily be over $5 million. Are you really this uniformed of other types of motorsports outside of drifting?
33:57 Aaron this is one of my favorite parts of watching your driver interviews. You have a real gift for creative thinking outside the box--stuff that medium and big players in the scene could do, that, for the most part, no one is doing (that would *work* and be rad) I hope you can get the ear of bigger companies or do consulting like this on a bigger scale, it would be great for the drift community.
I’m making the transition IRL this weekend and hell yes, even at grassroots level (if you fund yourself w/ a salary; being cheap; it’s still expensive) That’s why I started and learned to drift in Assetto Corsa ~ best money I’ve ever spent. I’m anxious as hell. Wish me luck and no bankruptcy lmao.
@@luevanosalejandro Just got back from the event. Oh man, the self-steer aspect was absent. I guess the caster alignment is off. I literally got 7 minutes of seat time, LOL.
@@jesselayton4164 Indeed! What I noticed was almost every car heading to the skidpad was street legal, and on the other hand, every car headed to the actual track was street illegal lmao. Crazy cars though. 90% overbuilt straight piped cars.
Such a trip to hear someones made it to the pinnacle of drifting competition, putting in a good effort with his car driving and sponsors, yet idealy would want out of the sport and into something different. I get FD is a giant money pit but isn't it the love and passion for drifting that makes people to sacrifice it all to be there? Must be a grass is always greener on the other side deal.
If you think fd is bad ask a super late model racer what he spends to do the Lucas oil series... Ask a drag racer what it costs him to run nhra pro mod or no prep kings or any pro mod series. The cost is laughable compared to fd.
Wow this dude just lost all next years sponsors. I don't know how i feel about his endgame for my sponsor dollars. But what the fuck do I know. If I had that much money I would do nothing but seat time my first couple years then pop to FD . He said it himself Ebisu trip was the ticket!
12:54 Air mattresses... Come on dude, employees need their own private sleeping space. Next time get a bunk model for your crew just like professionals and musicians have been using for decades. 🛏 🛏 🛏
The problem with saying you could build a track, or do all these other things is that you still have to account for sponsors. If you didn't do FD in order to build a track, you wouldn't have any type of sponsor money to make that happen, nor would you have the notoriety. It's not quite as easy as you make it out to be or else everyone would be building their own track. Also, good luck building a track for $1M
Sponsors would way rather be a part of building a track I think than a pro 2 program. The story you could tell on RUclips building a track and sharing it with the world, and the passion that would go into it would be amazing. I know I would personally have an easier time picking up sponsors for building a track than I would for competitive drifting.
@@LoneStarDrift I could see being able to get sponsors to build a track, but I just feel without any notoriety it may be harder. Maybe I'm mistaken as I haven't personally looked into building a track at a drift type orientation, I just feel it would be much more expensive initial cost. The only info I could readily find about building tracks were more suited to road racing and what I could find was around $15M initial cost. I'm sure for drifting it could be done at a fraction of that but certainly not cheap
NA JZ or 3sge or K swap. Stick to 15" wheels and tires. Drive for days with no mechanical issues and use 4 to 6 $50 tires per drift day. Stay away from boost and big power. Run a big radiator and good name brand fans and you'll literally drift until your too tired to go on. Builds are stupid.
How are these guys even financially jump starting their FD journey? Trust funds? Lol. Yeah you get sponsors but that's at the end of the road pretty much.
Yeah your right man 1000hp cars on massive tyres being driven by shit drivers is real boring and it's pretty lame that fd put it on the internet free for us to watch. Itd be way better to pay to watch 100hp corrollas with no smoke and no lock doing tandems 50 meters apart
@@janeblogs324 They don't do handbrake entries all the time. But what you fail to realise is that a grassroots car is VASTLY different to a Pro level drift car and the way you drive each of them is vastly different too.
@@1jzfc999 he’s more than likely talking about the dumb amount of politics and shit calls.... yes the cars and drivers are insane, but it’s an extremely biased competition body that costs a large amount of money
Hope you realize Aaron was in fd probably before you had a drivers license😂 he’s been there done that, hell his fd car was one of if not the first ls swapped car in drifting
@@PSTS636 doing shit in fd is better than not... and how do you get he’s “salty” towards fd? He literally runs one of the biggest licensing bodies for them😂 there’s nothing wrong woth wanting drifting to be obtainable to your average person as well
I’ve never understood the outrage at the cost of taking part at the top level. I used to run rally cars here in Ireland, a group N car easily cost 10k a day, WRC could be up to 30k. That’s only at national level.
Motorsport is expensive, be glad there are grassroots opportunities, be thankful people are willing to put in the time, effort and money to be at the top level.
Evaluate what you want from it, want to hunt doors with your friends all day? Keep it cheap. Want to put big trophies in your cabinet? Figure out how to fund it.
exactly this
The man has spoken
because drifting was born because it was relatively cheap, because you could do stuff with stock cars even
Because drifing was never meant to be this serious. Its meant to be about fun and i think thats exactly what Lone Star is trying to promote.
Met Ben back in 2018 at a drift clinic at Lanier right after I bought my e36. He was in the pits right next to me and helped me learn some stuff that day. Stand up dude. Cool to see where he is now.
Great fun hearing about Ben’s accomplishments and very interesting hearing about his hardships/experience in ProSpec! Keep up the good work @Ben!
How is it weird to want to drive RX from progressing in FD? Look at Foust, Millen, Hubinette or even Vaughn. All went from drifting to RX and Ultra 4 along with many other drivers that move through FD to other forms of motorsport. FD is one of the CHEAPEST professional forms of motorsport and it provides tons of viewership and recognition to fans, sponsors and manufacturers that can help support you throughout your progression into other forms of motorsports. Just to run a short season in RX (5 or so races) will easily be over $5 million. Are you really this uniformed of other types of motorsports outside of drifting?
Aaron and his attitude is so cynical…
33:57 Aaron this is one of my favorite parts of watching your driver interviews. You have a real gift for creative thinking outside the box--stuff that medium and big players in the scene could do, that, for the most part, no one is doing (that would *work* and be rad) I hope you can get the ear of bigger companies or do consulting like this on a bigger scale, it would be great for the drift community.
" We didn't change too much about the car."
" We completely revamped the car."...🤔
You dont have to change things to refresh things.
I need a friend like Aaron who drags me to drift events lol
Very insightful though, I appreciate you putting these videos out!
I’m making the transition IRL this weekend and hell yes, even at grassroots level (if you fund yourself w/ a salary; being cheap; it’s still expensive)
That’s why I started and learned to drift in Assetto Corsa ~ best money I’ve ever spent.
I’m anxious as hell. Wish me luck and no bankruptcy lmao.
So hyped for you dude!! The first event is always a special one. Hope it all goes well.
I feel like this is a very smart approach. Good luck pal.
Bankruptcy is just part of the fun though! Welcome to the addiction IRL! Sim drifting is good stuff though, invaluable cheap seat time.
@@luevanosalejandro Just got back from the event. Oh man, the self-steer aspect was absent. I guess the caster alignment is off. I literally got 7 minutes of seat time, LOL.
@@jesselayton4164 Indeed! What I noticed was almost every car heading to the skidpad was street legal, and on the other hand, every car headed to the actual track was street illegal lmao. Crazy cars though. 90% overbuilt straight piped cars.
Haha, I love the editing on this one.
Texas man chats about his impending bankruptcy
It was awesome to see him drift!
Great video. Love the insight
Great to hear. Ending clips were awesome!
I hope for 2000 a summer
Such a trip to hear someones made it to the pinnacle of drifting competition, putting in a good effort with his car driving and sponsors, yet idealy would want out of the sport and into something different. I get FD is a giant money pit but isn't it the love and passion for drifting that makes people to sacrifice it all to be there? Must be a grass is always greener on the other side deal.
Do you know how to make a small fortune in motorsports?
Start with a big fortune lol
If you think fd is bad ask a super late model racer what he spends to do the Lucas oil series... Ask a drag racer what it costs him to run nhra pro mod or no prep kings or any pro mod series. The cost is laughable compared to fd.
21:32 isn't that what James Deane did tho? And he got a lotta recognition for it.
I couldn't even imagine what a conversation between tanner foust and aaron losey would sound like
hobson is 100% the coolest most down to earth guy besides cory talaska in pro spec
Damn I barley can put $2000 in my ira a year lol
And people were giving josh robinson grief with how much he was saying it costed him to run.
Wow this dude just lost all next years sponsors. I don't know how i feel about his endgame for my sponsor dollars. But what the fuck do I know. If I had that much money I would do nothing but seat time my first couple years then pop to FD . He said it himself Ebisu trip was the ticket!
This was cool. Badass operation. Shit, im bailing out on the $300/mo maint on my drift car. If i was ballin, sure. no prob. But im anti ballin rn. ha.
AARON fast as fuck boy
12:54 Air mattresses... Come on dude, employees need their own private sleeping space. Next time get a bunk model for your crew just like professionals and musicians have been using for decades.
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Man I miss japan content
The problem with saying you could build a track, or do all these other things is that you still have to account for sponsors. If you didn't do FD in order to build a track, you wouldn't have any type of sponsor money to make that happen, nor would you have the notoriety. It's not quite as easy as you make it out to be or else everyone would be building their own track. Also, good luck building a track for $1M
Sponsors would way rather be a part of building a track I think than a pro 2 program. The story you could tell on RUclips building a track and sharing it with the world, and the passion that would go into it would be amazing. I know I would personally have an easier time picking up sponsors for building a track than I would for competitive drifting.
@@LoneStarDrift I could see being able to get sponsors to build a track, but I just feel without any notoriety it may be harder. Maybe I'm mistaken as I haven't personally looked into building a track at a drift type orientation, I just feel it would be much more expensive initial cost. The only info I could readily find about building tracks were more suited to road racing and what I could find was around $15M initial cost. I'm sure for drifting it could be done at a fraction of that but certainly not cheap
He want to be Tanner Foust
How about. How to make drifting cost $.02 per lap.
NA JZ or 3sge or K swap. Stick to 15" wheels and tires. Drive for days with no mechanical issues and use 4 to 6 $50 tires per drift day. Stay away from boost and big power. Run a big radiator and good name brand fans and you'll literally drift until your too tired to go on. Builds are stupid.
buy a sim rig
i just spent a whole day drifting an e36 m3 on a single pair of 265 kendas. big value
Cant advice IRL but Sims are the way to go. Assetto Corsa in VR is the sweet spot.
@@alexscott9195 a kswap is a huge build lmaaooo
How are these guys even financially jump starting their FD journey? Trust funds? Lol. Yeah you get sponsors but that's at the end of the road pretty much.
2k a lap haha no thanks 😅 lifestyles of the rich and prolific. No broke people allowed.
looks kin to LZ
Like a great value Adam
@@scottsvintagefire oh how about he's his own damn person and doesn't need nor care to be compared to someone else...
@@clutchkickpj693 damn bro lighten-up it's a RUclips comment
the thing him and Adam are friends.
Formula D is hot garbage
what do you drive then broke boy?
Yeah your right man 1000hp cars on massive tyres being driven by shit drivers is real boring and it's pretty lame that fd put it on the internet free for us to watch.
Itd be way better to pay to watch 100hp corrollas with no smoke and no lock doing tandems 50 meters apart
Top level....handbrake entries only, no 4 wheel drifting, no backwards entries....
@@janeblogs324 They don't do handbrake entries all the time. But what you fail to realise is that a grassroots car is VASTLY different to a Pro level drift car and the way you drive each of them is vastly different too.
@@1jzfc999 he’s more than likely talking about the dumb amount of politics and shit calls.... yes the cars and drivers are insane, but it’s an extremely biased competition body that costs a large amount of money
aron being a projection queen as usual. bitter boomer sad he couldnt makr it to fd.
lol.
Hope you realize Aaron was in fd probably before you had a drivers license😂 he’s been there done that, hell his fd car was one of if not the first ls swapped car in drifting
@@PSTS636 doing shit in fd is better than not... and how do you get he’s “salty” towards fd? He literally runs one of the biggest licensing bodies for them😂 there’s nothing wrong woth wanting drifting to be obtainable to your average person as well