@@sasukesuite1 Was mostly talking for a “new” car not used. I’d take a used plaid over a new 3 if it was around the same cost, but they really aren’t the same just yet. New M3P after rebate is nearly 50k, used plaid with low miles is high 60s.
I experienced this with my recent car search. Wanted something fast but can put my kids in and take a trip. Literally nothing with these specs and meeting those needs comes close to 50k. I'm so excited, mines slotted for July 3 for delivery!
Agreed! You can get a 21 Model S Refresh with low miles for the same price as a new M3P. Which is the better daily driver? Sound, suspension/comfort comparison, etc.
Always be happy with what you have, never be envious of someone else's belongings...nothing is forever, one day someone will be saying the same thing about your item they wish they had. @@HermanWillems
@MrSoull seemed like he was driving a regular S. A regular S beats the old model 3 performance the same way with a 10.89 quarter mile time or little less. In this video the model 3 had better 0-60 acceleration every time vs the plad which makes no sense plad is supposed to be 0-60 in 1.9 or 2.2 so it should have absolutely destroyed the model 3 from the start but it didn't. . Pretty sus if you ask me
I love how the ludicrous and plaid logo are Spaceballs matched. The ludicrous logo had those light beams coming towards you and plaid had those squares. Exactly as depicted in Spaceballs.
I’m more mad how there are reviewers and tech vlogs who can’t seem to do the very very minimum basic research to understand this and say they don’t understand what they mean. It’s not like a huge guarded secret..
Great content man Got a X Plaid 2023 myself, getting our 3 Ludicrous/Performance 2024 next month or the one after early for our little brother, wanted to do this real time but here we are
The M3P seems to be trapping around 4-5 miles higher speed than the previous gen with a high 10 sec 1/4 mile time. And it keeps pulling after 60 too so the top end acceleration is definitely an improvement. I have the 2023 M3P right now and man this is making me want to trade it in and maybe get the new one lol.
Break it down to the few points that really improved. Now give every single point a sum in dollars you'd be willing to spend as an "ficrive upgrade". Add them up and see if its over the real cost to switch. For me it wasnt by a large margin.
I had a 23 and having test drove just the '24 long range (no M3P to test drive) convinced me to make to jump to the '24 M3P. Even though the '23 was paid off, and getting back into a $450 a month note, I have zero regrets!
@@romansenger2322 They are cars, a depreciating asset, money was burnt the second they are bought. Thanks to the tax credit on the '23 my loss was minimal.
@TheReddFam Yeah, money was burned, so why sell the first car after the most significant depreciation has occurred and go for the next depreciation asset for a minimal upgrade? That's the point of my first comment. But I'm just speaking generally, not specifically about you. In the end, it's your decision.
its super bad for track driving u kidding me? It weights like an elephant and has disgusting handling. I was an owner of tesla plaid track pack for 3 weeks and sold it. its awesome for accelerations and thats an only advantage
@@JohnSmith-pw2jp yeah I know but it gets same track time as GT3 rs. look it up. And I didn't like my plaid either, super heavy. But model 3 performance works great on track. Heavy but still has great track times.
Winning by 1 car length - Good race! You won! 2 car lengths: Wow, you beat him! But when you barely see the other guys headlights, they might as well get out and walk. It's more efficient.
Against the plaid: 1) what was the SOC? 2) What tires were used on each car? Ludicrous is destined to loose a drag race, but would be fun to see the cost and performance of a M3L vs Plaid going around a track.
1. We both charged to 100% before the race. Finished the night at 80 something! 2. Stock pirelli pzero4 on mine. Plaid switched out for 19inch nonstock tires
Would love to see you test how performance varies versus state of charge. According to videos, we have seen minimal impact below 50%, similar to Plaid, curious to see the curve if/when it begins to taper off.
That would be a good race. The S LR can run the quarter in the 10.8-10.9 range at about 128 mph, but would be slower off the line than the 2024 M3P. So a 1000 foot race would be very close.
Wow you made the Mustang look like a milk float 😂 then the Plaid make you look like the milk float! 😂😂 unreal, was good to see some comparisons. I now want the model 3 but can’t afford it 😢
I wonder if even though the new m3p has an active suspension but not airbags like the plaids do. If they could engineer it so the front stiffens up some and the rear loosens up only in launch or drag strip mode to allow for better weight transfer&launches. 🤔
There a thing I realize with drag racing the plaid, I’m not talking about driving it in irl but like watching videos, so I realize like when the plaid is gonna start going fast the head lights usually jumps.
Thanks for the comparison to the Plaid! It would be great to see the 2024 M3P on the dyno. I have a 2023 M3P and I have seen so many HP numbers and I do not know what to believe.
I had a chance to test drive both today and the Plaid is (unsurprisingly) on a league of its own when it comes to acceleration. The M3 Performance is an amazing deal, though.
very nice.. I would take a Model 3P with the new Silver Color.. the Plaid is a super machine but I don't think the extra $30k is worth the additional speed for day to day driving.
I’m noticing the plaid needs a hot lap to unlock its true off the line power. The fact that the model 3, a bmw M and other videos show it can be taken down or at least challenge on a cold start is interesting. As for every lap after that it’s undisputed….. cold battery, questionable.
Have a LR Model S and honestly can’t imagine going even faster after punching it occasionally at lights. My brain actually hurts after launches. The Plaid must be insane.
Nice video, Have you noticed the brakes are kind of weak at delivery? Has performance improved after break in? Also is that homedepot jersey ur racing outfit?
Awesome video and races! I’m excited to get mine! Quick question. I ordered a Model 3 performance a week ago and the delivery date is July/August. When I apply for financing it says credit is usually only good for 30-60 days. So should I wait? Will my car be built still even though I haven’t gone through financing?
Hmm yeah tricky dilemma. I remember chatting about in the forums when we were waiting for our performances. Some people say Tesla will have you reapply, I’m not entirely sure. Some recommended just putting down cash payment until closer to delivery day then switch to financing. Lmk how it goes whatever happens!
@@officialmichaeltan so I ended up waiting to get financing until I got my vin. However I only got my vin 4 days before delivery! Lol thankfully everything worked out and I got my loan through navy federal. I just picked up my car today! I love it! However I feel like the brakes don’t really stop me at all. They’re heavy yet spongy at the same time. Do they need to get broken in or something?
@@JH-mo9hq thanks for the update! My brakes don’t feel spongy, as if there’s air in the fluid, but still they also don’t feel like they’re super high performance.
the other day i got a guy yelling at me : " tesla sucks " while driving down the road 🛣️ , it made me laugh and and the same time i flip him off by it made me laugh none or less
I'd hope for the former, for all the to-be 24 M3P owners out there. It would be genius move by Tesla to keep the car in the tax credit category and offer an acceleration boost after purchase. But someone was saying the current battery has a discharge limit so that may be a factor against being able to do this...?
For the price, the new Tesla 3 Performance is the best car in its price range, quick af, spacious, efficient, crazy tech, no car comes near it.
A used Plaid cost about the same
@@sasukesuite1 Was mostly talking for a “new” car not used. I’d take a used plaid over a new 3 if it was around the same cost, but they really aren’t the same just yet. New M3P after rebate is nearly 50k, used plaid with low miles is high 60s.
47k for a 10s car = ICE is dead
@@larryc1616facts
I experienced this with my recent car search. Wanted something fast but can put my kids in and take a trip. Literally nothing with these specs and meeting those needs comes close to 50k. I'm so excited, mines slotted for July 3 for delivery!
Plaid is a M O N S T E R
Yes. dyno it!! Also you need to set up a race with a 2023 Model 3 Performance 😉
cannot believe the ultra red midlife crisis reference, exactly why I ordered mine in that color😅
The car itself is the midlife crisis choice. 🤣I picked the color because it is exactly the color I have ever wanted on a car.
I ordered the MLC Ultra Red too. :D
Plaid is not a brother. Is a King ! 👑 😂
Second to the RS3
@@C6nroofinglmao
@@C6nroofinghow much $$$ to makes RS3 to 1000+ hp 😂😂😂😂😂
@@C6nroofing 🤣
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2024 M3P vs MSLR would be a great match.
A base model C8 Stingray might be interesting.
Agreed! You can get a 21 Model S Refresh with low miles for the same price as a new M3P.
Which is the better daily driver? Sound, suspension/comfort comparison, etc.
Yes I want to see this too.
@@TalmidimAlexDefinitely the new M3P. The model S is actually less reliable and not as comfortable as the new Model 3s
@@deanprater12 So not true.
I love my S Plaid. I love super fast acceleration and going fast, perfect daily imo. The 2024 M3P is awesome for the price!
Congrats!
I own a model 3 RWD(cash paid). What i need to do to be able to afford an S Plaid. its my dream car.
Always be happy with what you have, never be envious of someone else's belongings...nothing is forever, one day someone will be saying the same thing about your item they wish they had. @@HermanWillems
@@HermanWillemsyou were almost there but decided to cash out on a Model 3 and it’s not even the performance 😂
@@user-hg4ur3nh1x LFP battery lasts 3x longer. And is more efficiënt.
definetly gotta get the ludicrous on the dyno!!!
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Yehi have the older M3 Performance and ive seen them get 500hp at the wheels on a dyno
It’s rated much higher than advertised
Model 3 P, vs Model S Long Range would be more fair
Exactly!
Its not about fair, It's curious to see the difference
*I think a standard Model S would’ve been a better comparison.*
Or long range model S, since it has duel motor and is AWD
No, the whole point is to test out the performance car of each model…
@MrSoull seemed like he was driving a regular S. A regular S beats the old model 3 performance the same way with a 10.89 quarter mile time or little less. In this video the model 3 had better 0-60 acceleration every time vs the plad which makes no sense plad is supposed to be 0-60 in 1.9 or 2.2 so it should have absolutely destroyed the model 3 from the start but it didn't. . Pretty sus if you ask me
I love how the ludicrous and plaid logo are Spaceballs matched. The ludicrous logo had those light beams coming towards you and plaid had those squares. Exactly as depicted in Spaceballs.
I’m more mad how there are reviewers and tech vlogs who can’t seem to do the very very minimum basic research to understand this and say they don’t understand what they mean. It’s not like a huge guarded secret..
Great content man
Got a X Plaid 2023 myself, getting our 3 Ludicrous/Performance 2024 next month or the one after early for our little brother, wanted to do this real time but here we are
Dude congrats! You’re packing serious heat.
@@officialmichaeltan
Garbage microwaves
@@hassanger8128 Let me guess, drive a Mustang pal? Lol being butthurt about EV's making ICE eat dicks is petty.
The M3P seems to be trapping around 4-5 miles higher speed than the previous gen with a high 10 sec 1/4 mile time. And it keeps pulling after 60 too so the top end acceleration is definitely an improvement. I have the 2023 M3P right now and man this is making me want to trade it in and maybe get the new one lol.
Break it down to the few points that really improved. Now give every single point a sum in dollars you'd be willing to spend as an "ficrive upgrade". Add them up and see if its over the real cost to switch. For me it wasnt by a large margin.
I had a 23 and having test drove just the '24 long range (no M3P to test drive) convinced me to make to jump to the '24 M3P. Even though the '23 was paid off, and getting back into a $450 a month note, I have zero regrets!
@@TheReddFam yeah, you made the contrary of what I suggested - an emotional decision. Best way to burn money.
@@romansenger2322 They are cars, a depreciating asset, money was burnt the second they are bought. Thanks to the tax credit on the '23 my loss was minimal.
@TheReddFam Yeah, money was burned, so why sell the first car after the most significant depreciation has occurred and go for the next depreciation asset for a minimal upgrade? That's the point of my first comment. But I'm just speaking generally, not specifically about you. In the end, it's your decision.
Drove one this morning. It's soooo zippy. Best deal car for track driving right now. Faster than most of my sports car and handles damn good.
its super bad for track driving u kidding me? It weights like an elephant and has disgusting handling. I was an owner of tesla plaid track pack for 3 weeks and sold it. its awesome for accelerations and thats an only advantage
@@JohnSmith-pw2jp yeah I know but it gets same track time as GT3 rs. look it up. And I didn't like my plaid either, super heavy. But model 3 performance works great on track. Heavy but still has great track times.
@@WillProwseyou owned a model s plaid and drove the new model 3 performance? What do you think? How do they compare? I’m stuck between both
@@WillProwsealso what year was the plaid?
@@JohnSmith-pw2jpwhat year was it? What was so bad?
That ultra red is really a sight to behold
DYNO!!!
And to think that the S Plaid is popping up used for low 60's everywhere now.
In a few years some teenagers will be getting a Model S Plaid as a first car.
I really want to see OG Model 3 performance vs new model..Us folks that bought the top in 2022 want to dream about the new model lol
You can find a 2024 m3p vs a 2021 on here at a real track racing. 24 m3p ran a 10.93 1/4 mile vs a 11.6 for 21 m3p. 👍🏻😎
Thank you for this test, I was waiting for someone to finally compare S Plaid with new 3 Performance. Great 👋💫.
Winning by 1 car length - Good race! You won!
2 car lengths: Wow, you beat him!
But when you barely see the other guys headlights, they might as well get out and walk. It's more efficient.
the value of this car is insane!
Against the plaid:
1) what was the SOC?
2) What tires were used on each car?
Ludicrous is destined to loose a drag race, but would be fun to see the cost and performance of a M3L vs Plaid going around a track.
1. We both charged to 100% before the race. Finished the night at 80 something!
2. Stock pirelli pzero4 on mine. Plaid switched out for 19inch nonstock tires
Epic sound on that Mustang🎉😍
@04:13 I COULD FEEL YOUR JOY THERE LOL
Would love to see you test how performance varies versus state of charge. According to videos, we have seen minimal impact below 50%, similar to Plaid, curious to see the curve if/when it begins to taper off.
Yeah The Plaid is the best of the best superb machine !!!
Rimac Nevera
Interesting would be a comparison between M3P and Tesla S LR
definitely
That would be a good race. The S LR can run the quarter in the 10.8-10.9 range at about 128 mph, but would be slower off the line than the 2024 M3P. So a 1000 foot race would be very close.
Wow you made the Mustang look like a milk float 😂 then the Plaid make you look like the milk float! 😂😂 unreal, was good to see some comparisons. I now want the model 3 but can’t afford it 😢
One day brother. Plus I’m sure there will be some cheap used ones eventually
wow... for the first 2 seconds they are closeish
can you put to a test of 2023 tesla vs 2024 race
That's about what i expected v.s plaid.
I wouldn’t wait for cheetah stance in a plaid. It feels like it hits harder without it because of the front end lifting more.
I wonder if even though the new m3p has an active suspension but not airbags like the plaids do. If they could engineer it so the front stiffens up some and the rear loosens up only in launch or drag strip mode to allow for better weight transfer&launches. 🤔
Awesome video thanks for being the first to do this! 🎉
There a thing I realize with drag racing the plaid, I’m not talking about driving it in irl but like watching videos, so I realize like when the plaid is gonna start going fast the head lights usually jumps.
Thanks for the comparison to the Plaid! It would be great to see the 2024 M3P on the dyno. I have a 2023 M3P and I have seen so many HP numbers and I do not know what to believe.
Awesome, Mike. Again, a first from you 💖 Please have it dyno'ed when possible.
These aren’t even close to a match. Even if they unlock all 600+hp on the ludicrous mode…
They’re different cars!
I had a chance to test drive both today and the Plaid is (unsurprisingly) on a league of its own when it comes to acceleration. The M3 Performance is an amazing deal, though.
@@TheLinuxExperience for sure, what this M3P does to other cars off the line is what the plaid does to this car 😂
vs M3, vs M4, vs RS3, (stock of course) someone from this cars it can be very intresting
Skip to 3:30, that’s all you need to see lol
Great comparison. It seems like the exact speed of the old model 3 performance. Is it worth the upgrade 🤔
insane race, would love to see a comparison between the ludicrous 3 vs a long range model S and Performance 2022/23 model 3 !
Hope to do that soon!
Awesome video bro!
Your car on the Dyno? Yes please Sir :-)
Crazy that Tesla just dropped the price to 42k overnight
I appreciate it when I order my 2023 model S Plaid 😎
At least you won for a fraction of a second 😂
If you can setup a race vs the MS Long Range. The new M3P should be a good match. Both run upper 10's in the quarter mile.
Yeah, Tesla lied about the 510HP. The new M3P hits a bit over 600HP. Want a real race? Put a third motor in the new M3P 😎
I dream of having torque vectoring with 3 motors
He didn’t check the track pack box, but he can’t even do that since he didn’t check the arachnid box. 😂
'its got the yolk steering wheel.. everything you want in a car'.. nope
The plaid has new sportseats from april 2024. Wish to see them more than just the badge
I find the acceleration of my dual motor Model 3 to be quite fast, let alone the plaid. I'd love to test drive that monster one day.
+1 subs man! Your content is amazing!! Excited to see what you got in stock for us for the future!
Just wait until the roadster comes out 💨
I think they should've put the plaid drivetrain in the 3, that would be fun 😂
very nice.. I would take a Model 3P with the new Silver Color.. the Plaid is a super machine but I don't think the extra $30k is worth the additional speed for day to day driving.
Fun to drive... Straight. I'll stick with another brand for real fun.
Just curious, what you think real fun is?
I’m noticing the plaid needs a hot lap to unlock its true off the line power. The fact that the model 3, a bmw M and other videos show it can be taken down or at least challenge on a cold start is interesting. As for every lap after that it’s undisputed….. cold battery, questionable.
Anyone know when the implant will work with the cars settings? They said next firmware version but haven’t been specific.
What kind of implant are you referring to?
@@officialmichaeltan Neuralink
Would also be nice so see new Model 3 Perf against a regular Model S and a legacy Model 3 Perf 😊👍
So what does the 2024 Model 3 Performance do in the 1/4 mile? Time and trap speed?
I’ve done 11.03. Fastest I’ve seen is 10.93 some guy on an actual sticky drag strip.
10.7 is the fastest I’ve seen.
I'd like to see the new 3 performance vs my older Model S P85D. 691hp- but much, much heavier.
Would be cool to see it go against the Long Range version!!
wow. both fast AF!
Dyno would be an ace video! Thanks!
A more interesting comparison is to non plaid model S
Can you run it against a 2021 or later standard Model S - I think that would be an interesting race.
Hopefully soon!
Please do against BMW M3 Competition xDrive
Have a LR Model S and honestly can’t imagine going even faster after punching it occasionally at lights. My brain actually hurts after launches. The Plaid must be insane.
That got sexual quickly. A full 1/4 mile race and youd barely be able to the Plaid by the end.
Plaid is on another level ... By power and by price too.
Nice video, Have you noticed the brakes are kind of weak at delivery? Has performance improved after break in?
Also is that homedepot jersey ur racing outfit?
Maybe slightly noticed some help with breaking them in but not too much. Haha maybe it will be.
It looks nice. I saw a cyber truck today and I just don’t see how it’s from the same company 😂
6:47 is why these Tesla haters loathe Tesla 😂 where did he go???
what were your 1/4 mile time?
This vid was a 1,000ft track, but I’ve been able to get 11.03 for 1/4 mile. Someone on YT was able to get a 10.93 I think, on a sticky drag strip.
Nice comparison. Looking forward to seeing more videos on the M3 Perf. Luda.
So was there any question about what the outcome of this competition was going to be? No, I don’t think so! Cheers 🥂
Cool video!
Awesome video and races! I’m excited to get mine!
Quick question. I ordered a Model 3 performance a week ago and the delivery date is July/August. When I apply for financing it says credit is usually only good for 30-60 days. So should I wait? Will my car be built still even though I haven’t gone through financing?
Hmm yeah tricky dilemma. I remember chatting about in the forums when we were waiting for our performances. Some people say Tesla will have you reapply, I’m not entirely sure. Some recommended just putting down cash payment until closer to delivery day then switch to financing. Lmk how it goes whatever happens!
@@officialmichaeltan so I ended up waiting to get financing until I got my vin. However I only got my vin 4 days before delivery! Lol thankfully everything worked out and I got my loan through navy federal. I just picked up my car today!
I love it! However I feel like the brakes don’t really stop me at all. They’re heavy yet spongy at the same time. Do they need to get broken in or something?
@@JH-mo9hq thanks for the update! My brakes don’t feel spongy, as if there’s air in the fluid, but still they also don’t feel like they’re super high performance.
I love my plaid every day. No exceptions
Misha Charoudin dyno'd a 22' or 23' M3P and I think it showed 515 HP.
Subbed...thx for the content!
That looks like a lot of fun. I wish I could afford one. :-o
In good time brother you will. Plus I’m sure there will be lots of cheap used ones in the next couple years.
Insane stuff 🔥
Dyno…do it!
💪YES ! definitely Dyno 💪
the other day i got a guy yelling at me : " tesla sucks " while driving down the road 🛣️ , it made me laugh and and the same time i flip him off by it made me laugh none or less
Did the Mustang even left the start? 😂
Other than top fuel/funny car…
It’s the first time I’ve seen 1000’
Great value for money
I want to see a 60-130 pull against a P100D Raven version
Dyno!
Sucks i can’t get the $7500 off the new model 3 performance because i want a different color paint or black seats 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Plaid has a third motor of course you’re gonna lose unless the guy driving the plaid has a reaction time of a sloth.
I still don’t know why Tesla didn’t put a launch control system on this model or the Y
@@hmarroquin6240 could be cool but I like the simplicity and consistency of the m3p launches.
@@officialmichaeltan
It would be much fun and faster with a launch control system.
That’s the only thing my model 3 is missing
I would love to see a dyno on your car. I would predict that it is making a maximum hp to the "wheel" of about 560 hp.
Just dropped the dyno video! Most recent one on my channel
At 8:29 was it an 8V or 8Y RS3? Electric is crazy instant power.
I didn’t get the chance to talk to the owner!
Double the HP, double the NM, 20% heavier and $30,000-35,000. I mean, it is expected but not too bad.
Race it against the old S Performance Raven.
But Ludicrous is not fully unlocked yet?
Who knows. Some speculate Tesla could update or put in a new battery to unlock performance but that’s speculation right now.
I'd hope for the former, for all the to-be 24 M3P owners out there. It would be genius move by Tesla to keep the car in the tax credit category and offer an acceleration boost after purchase. But someone was saying the current battery has a discharge limit so that may be a factor against being able to do this...?
FYI, cheetah stance is only good for about a tenth or so. It's not "needed."
Please bring the model 3 to the dyno