How To Throw Hard As A Short Or Tall Pitcher

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
  • ⚾️ Are taller pitchers always better? Or do shorter pitchers have a hidden edge?
    In this video, we discussed the differences between tall and short pitchers. We compared delivery, mindset, and development challenges pitchers can go through depending on their height. We also delved into the concept that optimal lifting and power metrics can vary based on a player's size and physical leverage.
    0:00 Intro
    0:38 Frank Moscatiello (Short Pitcher)
    2:15 Craig Stem (Tall Pitcher)
    3:42 Playing multiple positions
    13:11 Learning to flip the switch on your mentality.
    20:32 How long to delay opening up your delivery?
    38:45 The physics of tall vs. short pitchers.
    41:39 What's the right type of pitcher?
    53:15 Playing up your strengths and outlier qualities.
    56:12 The sweet spot for arm length and height.
    59:55 The difference between height and wingspan.
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Комментарии • 64

  • @chaddawson7652
    @chaddawson7652 Год назад +36

    Frankie went to Rocky Point HS. Frankie is a phenomenal athlete, Frankie is probably a top .01% of athletes for his size. FRANKIE was throwing 90 or 91mph as a senior in HS. He is great kid and a very diligent worker

  • @supergee
    @supergee 9 месяцев назад +8

    Heres one for the short kings! We can fit in all cars too, never forget that😅

  • @brandenpetrangelo9220
    @brandenpetrangelo9220 Год назад +5

    I was a 5’7 pitcher at 92 let’s go Frankie

  • @FOXMAN09
    @FOXMAN09 7 месяцев назад +18

    This is exactly why i dont understand how more people arent playing baseball. Especially if their goal is to go pro in a sport. You dont need to hope you'll get tall. And if anyone says "you need tons of equipmen". No, not to be a pitcher you dont. Besides, only one position on the field needs more than a glove. And to be a pitcher you don't even need a single person to practice with most of the time. Pitchers should be coming from all over the world to the MLB. Not to mention every pro team has 13 active pitchers (390 active pitchers in the league) so there are far more opportunities to get a job as a pitcher than in other position in any pro sport.

    • @TheRoadLessChosen
      @TheRoadLessChosen 5 месяцев назад +3

      Baseball is super expensive. You’re mistaken. Not only that it is far from an easy sport. Also the mechanics of pitching are not simple.

    • @FOXMAN09
      @FOXMAN09 5 месяцев назад

      @TheRoadLessChosen Here is a huge list of Cuban Players who made the MLB: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Cuba
      It's only expensive if you make it expensive by choice. It's not Polo or F1.
      To be in the top tier of any sport isn't easy and requires tons of practice on mechanics. With that said, you could make a career in baseball with one very specfic skill. Designated hitter, Pinch hitter, pinch runner, bunter, 1 inning/1 batter relief pitcher, a catcher for a specific type of pitcher (Doug Mirabelli), etc. And then for pitchers as this post was about, you could make a career being incredible with one pitch (fastball, knuckleball, curveball. And you can throw all of those at MLB level with almost any height. Hence my point of why there should be pitchers from all over the world.

    • @orbiccachdigitalmarketing5865
      @orbiccachdigitalmarketing5865 4 месяца назад

      Out of the 4billion men on planet earth, 1 man has less than a .9% chance of becoming 1 of the 390 pitchers you mentioned. But, I get where you're coming from. It's not just about physical mechanics when it comes to being successful in baseball. The mental and genetic aspects play a big role too, as they determine an athlete's ability to stay focused on their goals. A lot of players have the physical skills, but it's the years of obsession at a young age, drive and mental discipline that sets them apart. "Potential" is just a fancy word for what you haven't achieved yet.

    • @macintoshcomputingdevice8016
      @macintoshcomputingdevice8016 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheRoadLessChosenits not expensive i grew up in DR everyone played no matter how poor

    • @xe042
      @xe042 12 дней назад

      theres already too many wannabe pro pitchers

  • @bigjude2296
    @bigjude2296 Год назад +9

    Great video! As a fellow 6’7 pitcher I have had some similar struggles. I loved how Frankie explained dropping and driving with the back leg. That’s something I’ve struggled with but I’ve started to get that feeling he’s describing.

    • @TheRoadLessChosen
      @TheRoadLessChosen 5 месяцев назад

      My son is 6’3 and still growing. I guess 6’4 in cleats with a 6’7 wingspan. He has this same issue. Everyone saying throw over the top you’re so tall, use your levers etc. he’s struggling with mechanics because he’s still growing and it seems things are always off with no end in sight. He’s 16 but was just told his growth plates are wide open. How long does it take? Are you 6’7 in shoes? Doc said he will reach about 6’5.

  • @BeesFitness
    @BeesFitness Год назад +2

    Thank you guys for the video! I appreciate it.

  • @jamalmakki4042
    @jamalmakki4042 Год назад

    This is the best page for young ballplayers to learn to pitch the right way, for all shapes and sizes. These videos have helped me drastically as a coach for my players as well.

  • @Rooster_king
    @Rooster_king Год назад +11

    The 5-7 guy is also full of fast twitch muscle fiber and probably the best athlete there.

    • @mike-0451
      @mike-0451 Год назад +8

      He’s actually the only guy that looks like an athlete

  • @ExvnOnTheGame
    @ExvnOnTheGame Год назад

    tread is on top of the game great insight as always fellas

  • @Alexandertygreat
    @Alexandertygreat Год назад +2

    Def ape index would play a roll, lower center mass wirh above average levers and release angle. Every little league coach to highschool coach needs to be watching this channel. There will be some nasty 5"7-5'9 pitchers coming up. Add in fast twitch dominant and boom. Im 5'8 and i crush a golf ball. Ive out driven ever person ive ever played with or against my whole life. Moon shots. Id get a crowd and every driving range when i was 16-30.

  • @desertfarmer248
    @desertfarmer248 Год назад

    Great vid guys.

  • @e_zee5902
    @e_zee5902 Год назад +23

    as a 6'0 160 hs pitcher, I love hearing how Frankie does it. The eye test is so true, I remember my first practice in 6th grade the new head coach came by asking everyone's position. I always wanted to pitch so I said that I'm a pitcher. I remember he looked me dead in the eye and said "I decide who pitches." Got stuck in CF despite being a 3B but when he first let me pitch, people realised that was what I was best at (I threw like 67 which was gas for that age) But yeah, I train so much fast twitch and mobility that I'm starting to throw harder than people who have a few inches and 20 pounds on me. Mostly because of this channel tbh

    • @lllllllllllllllII
      @lllllllllllllllII Год назад +1

      What workouts do you do because I am the same height/weight I throw 80 junior year

    • @e_zee5902
      @e_zee5902 Год назад +2

      @@lllllllllllllllII I ate a ton and got in the weight room as much as possible because like 8 months ago I weighed about 145 and found it very difficult to maintain above 150. I also do plyometrics and sprints with focus on moving fast but the biggest thing for me was doing mobility work. Mobility is huge and honestly made a huge difference. I went from throwing 75-80 my sophomore summer and immediately got up to 82ish by the start of fall

    • @BeesFitness
      @BeesFitness Год назад

      Keep working! You got this brother! Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work.

    • @e_zee5902
      @e_zee5902 Год назад

      @@BeesFitness thanks man. Trying to get up to 90 by august

  • @thomasblomdahl28
    @thomasblomdahl28 Год назад +1

    Love these vids. Always some gold hearing from fuzz throwers🙏🏻

  • @matthewwiederhold3946
    @matthewwiederhold3946 Год назад +13

    Recently I’ve realized how enormous of an impact genetics have on velo. I’m 21, 5’11 180lbs with the longest limbs ever, my wingspan is 6’6. My hip mobility is poor, I naturally just cannot lift my leg very high in my leg lift, naturally one of the smallest and weakest players, and I’m slightly knock kneed. I sit 73-76mph with a decent amount of training. There are 12 year olds who throw harder than me. It’s so frustrating, especially when I see guys who can hop on the mound and throw 90 first throw who don’t take the game seriously at all that just kills me.

    • @lllllllllllllllII
      @lllllllllllllllII Год назад +3

      Fr man

    • @sShiba
      @sShiba 9 месяцев назад

      I’m sure you have but have you tried mobility exercises?

    • @ObiWanKenobi
      @ObiWanKenobi 2 месяца назад +1

      Damn bruh you have the perfect physical genetics to go D1 in any sport. Maybe some hip mobility stretches/exercises can help you

  • @meejinhuang
    @meejinhuang Год назад +3

    It's obviously arm speed. Leg kick also critical.

  • @greggy6302
    @greggy6302 Год назад +4

    Gotta get more representation for the Medium-sized pitchers 😂😂

  • @waterflowzz
    @waterflowzz Год назад +4

    Frankie has quite a long reach for a 5’7 guy…. He has long arms. Maybe that has an affect on his pitching.

  • @jamiewilson343
    @jamiewilson343 8 месяцев назад

    #1000. keep going

  • @mrggrmrrggrr
    @mrggrmrrggrr Год назад +2

    So if Craig could hit 94-95 with minimal back leg engagement (suboptimal mechanics) and wasn't meeting Tread strength standards by a fair margin, did he just have off the charts mobility to be able to throw that hard? And I'd think that mobility would allow his long levers to get a long range of motion to build up more force

    • @treadathletics
      @treadathletics  Год назад +3

      Craig doesn't have the best mobility but he has long levers and his arm flipped up on time. He's not particularly fast but timed the rest of the delivery well enough to throw mid 90s.

  • @NeedToDoBetter
    @NeedToDoBetter Год назад

    The frame to the far left is the balk. I think?

  • @zappedballowe9847
    @zappedballowe9847 4 месяца назад

    kiddo picked up enough velo i had switch to a real catchers mit thanks fellas

  • @1176hambone
    @1176hambone 8 месяцев назад

    Primo content

  • @sun6262-
    @sun6262- Месяц назад

    what is frankies wingspan?

  • @evanjarman2773
    @evanjarman2773 5 месяцев назад

    A guy like Lebron James would be the pitcher I'd make. 6'8 "freakishly fast twitched" excellent acceleration and very mobile. Not to mention, he weighs 265 and is strong.

  • @LawofWhatley
    @LawofWhatley Год назад +1

    Before I even watch this video. I will say and know that Frankie can throw a football better than most baseball players. 50+yds no warmup.. Easy. If pitchers stopped doing weighted ball programs and just threw the football... It's just too simple. Nolan Ryan 27 years in the bigs.. What did he do!? Football. Take it seriously it's not a joke

    • @brianhanks1851
      @brianhanks1851 2 месяца назад

      Nolan Ryan also threw thousands of newspapers on his childhood delivery route.

  • @noahhastings6082
    @noahhastings6082 Месяц назад

    What is the biggest tip for short pitchers to throw harder

    • @treadathletics
      @treadathletics  Месяц назад

      Get strong.

    • @noahhastings6082
      @noahhastings6082 Месяц назад

      @@treadathletics thank you for the tip but should I get strong only in my lower body or should I try to get strong everywhere and what are some good exercises.

    • @treadathletics
      @treadathletics  Месяц назад

      Total body. Check out our Free Downloads for some sample programs, but working with a reputable coach is the most efficient way to imrpove!
      treadathletics.com/free-stuff/

    • @noahhastings6082
      @noahhastings6082 Месяц назад

      @@treadathletics it seems that the at home training program would be best for me do you recommend that or do you prefer other programs

    • @treadathletics
      @treadathletics  Месяц назад

      Our remote program is individually catered to every athlete's situation. You can learn all about it here!
      ruclips.net/video/bd2EAn9tJDM/видео.html

  • @evanjarman2773
    @evanjarman2773 5 месяцев назад

    I tell my guys think theyre a car. If we go 1st to 5th were going to blow the transmission. Think speed up to release. Then adjust speed from that point

  • @alejandroa6372
    @alejandroa6372 Год назад

    damn man i'm looking
    fucking short

  • @JohnSmith-cp4wh
    @JohnSmith-cp4wh Год назад +1

    Franki just doesn’t throw 97 tho he is 88/92 T 93

    • @catcherchristensen158
      @catcherchristensen158 Год назад

      What do you mean? Has he never hit 97?

    • @Salzmanbaseball
      @Salzmanbaseball Год назад

      He used to.

    • @treadathletics
      @treadathletics  Год назад +7

      Frankie is currently sitting low 90s and T94 in live ABs at Tread, in the past Frankie has sat 94 and T97 in games and is talking about how his body felt and what he was thinking of during that time. Just because you can’t top your all time PR currently doesn’t mean you can’t speak about your experience if you’ve done it before.

    • @JohnSmith-cp4wh
      @JohnSmith-cp4wh Год назад

      @@treadathletics I just don’t think he has hit 97 before. In the pitching doc’s backyard maybe😂 but we all know what goes on there

    • @Salzmanbaseball
      @Salzmanbaseball Год назад +2

      @@JohnSmith-cp4wh He did hit 97 there and he’s hit it elsewhere in bullpens. Also I can confirm the gun in the Doc’s backyard is not juiced. I might be one of the only people to have checked it myself.

  • @blakethetank
    @blakethetank 11 месяцев назад +1

    A lot of cope as to why the taller guys cant do Frankies weight lol

  • @SRTJamo
    @SRTJamo 2 месяца назад

    And there lies the problem. I’m 6’0 lmao

  • @FLOWmyGOD
    @FLOWmyGOD Год назад

    first

  • @patrickmarsh4236
    @patrickmarsh4236 4 месяца назад

    Weight for taller people longer arms. You have to move that weight a lot further than shorter guy with shorter arms. Same with squats and deadlifts. Short guy does half the movement. Taller guy is doubling the distance same weight

  • @CyberOrganic
    @CyberOrganic Год назад +1

    This host sucks. It took him 30 minutes to finally involve Cory in the conversation. How many times are you going to ask them the same question in different ways?