THIS Is What Red Dead 3 SHOULD Be
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Red Dead Redemption 3 - What It Should and Shouldn't Be
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This is just my opinion, so put yours in the comments and let's debate! 
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Maybe playing as young uncle learn his real name see what he has done when he was younger…
How about remaining original Red dead Revolver? Expanding it and fleshing out the world, story and characters along with bringing the gameplay to new levels
As for RDR3 I hope they go back and do an original story but during the height of the Wild West. We have gotten games which were towards the end
I thought it would be interesting if they base rdr3 off of Blood Meridian. It follows the Granton gang, a group of mercenaries hired by the government to hunt down Indians attacking homesteads and towns. It's an extremely brutal book with no good guys, but I think it would be really interesting to make a game off of
I’ve always thought to play as Mac (who dies in the black water massacre). The final main story mission would be the black water massacre and then you play as Arthur and move to the grizzlies on the epilogue…which flows right into RDR2!
i think we need to play as Gavin, it’s the only obvious answer
100%
This is a flawless solution. Well done. 😂
I've always thought gavin was an alias of trelawny explains how he has like an infinite amount of friends as seen in the boat heist
@@Envixin753gavin’s friend is in saint denis
@@bjoernbertges113 trelawny is as well
Why do so many people want to see Jack’s story continued? By 1914 there was truly no outlaw from the Wildwest left who was alive, not behind bars or who didn’t reforme.
I agree, it's kind of beating a dead horse with the "WILD WEST IS OVER" themes
I agree, and we already saw him kill Ross, leaving even less of a motive for him
Or do a story about Pearson, the crazy cook who served in the army for a year
Its a bit of an odd one, people are complaining about continuing Jack's story in Red Dead 3 would not work, and yet there are also people complaining that Jack did not feel as an interesting character because there was next to do nothing to do at him at the end of Red Dead 1 after killing Ross.
because they are not thinking about reality probably. by the time jack grows up to be a man it's ww1. the world will have become too advanced by this point for it to even be a western genre anymore with machine guns and tanks roaming around aint nobody shooting cattleman revolvers anymore. it would more likely transform into the gangster genre. Hanging out with john dillinger or something haha. but ya no more jack please. stick to the western time period is a must. personally i think one more story with red harlow would be nice with modern technology to power it.
My prediction is this game will come out around 2035-2040
No shit
And minimum requirements are rtx 7090ti super 😂
Definitely way sooner. 2026 or 2027. 2030 at the latest.
@@Zack_410no way you think this is COD? Its gonna take atleast a decade
@@Zack_410 yaa
I think the Van Der Linde gang's story is over even for a prequel. What more can you add that would even come close to rdr2
I agree. The Van Der Linde gang's story has already been told. What hasn't been told wouldn't be able to make it as it's own game. We should move to something fresh and new. Maybe even a different part of the West, and get to see the redemption story of someone new
I think it makes sense for rdr3 to tell the events up until the blackwater massacre
Jack's story
@@maxrocketansky did u watch video ?
@@p41vleee yes. He is 100% wrong
Play as young javier in revolutionary mexico, game ends as he first joins and integrates with the van der lin gang
Game about colm O'Driscoll's brother would be perfect, you finally get to explore the real wild west at its prime, it actually has some connection to the var der linde gang, and it follows the rdr rule that the main character die at the end (by dutch)
Or play as him after rdr2 and it ends when John finds you
@@MRBass6000I like to think Colm's brother would die in a heroic way like Arthur's maybe Colm's brother would be like Hosea and a less evil version of Colm
tbh it would be interesting but still wont feel like rdr2 bc this one is so good bc of the camp interactions imo. For me it was bind blowing how included i felt and it wasnt like any other game with 2 line npcs. You actually feel the camp alive. I spent hours and hours just wandering in camp and you cant rlly get that feeling playing a solo character.
Boring
What if the main character is killed by Arthur at the end?
That is amazing plot twist
7:41 man stood up for himself
Regardless of what direction they take
You can bet Red Dead Redemption 3 will be the most beautiful game ever
Let's hope
You will be able to see ants in the ground and those ant's testicles will shrink during cold weather
@@pekkalaitinen8769😂😂 I always love pointing out the horses balls in the hot and cold in rd2 to my friends also
its gonna be copy and paste
Game about colm O'Driscoll's brother would be perfect, you finally get to explore the real wild west at its prime, it actually has some ties to the var der linde gang, and it follows the rdr rule that the main character die at the end of the game (by dutch)@@RedDeadTierLists
I think the Native American angle could be really interesting to explore. That, or they could do a freed slave right after the civil war who’s trying to make his new life out west. Those are real-life types of historical people who don’t get explored enough.
This is finally a good idea I've seen in the comments. I'm tired of sequels and prequels. We need new stuff. GTA is always bringing new casts and stories that are successful, why can't the same be for RDR? If they do the slave thing, they should make breaking out and possibly freeing people a part of the story.
@@goat9295 That could be the opening mission, yeah! And the dynamic between a freed slave and native Americans he would meet along the way (who are being actively pushed out) could be really interesting
I really hope that it’s not another prequel involving any of the Van Der Linde gang members. It would feel like filler and there would be no redemption story to be told but somehow people don’t understand that.
Fully agree, the next game needs a new story that can support itself without having to rely on already established characters. We all love the current story but it’s run its course and people need to come to terms with that
I do think it could be cool if there were a couple missions or events where you had run ins with certain members of the van der Linde gang, or could witness the impact they had on the west, but rdr3 needs its own focal point with a new protagonist, new characters, and new story
@@mustardtiger6062 the whole idea crumbles when you think about it
A uncle prequel story before the gang in the prime of Wild West sounds like a good game to me it a lot to unfold with uncle past because we don’t even know his real name so rockstar can have a fresh slate and do whatever they want with a younger uncle because he didn’t fall in the gang until he was older
Agreed. Also people wanting it to end in the Blackwater massacre make no sense, it would not work at all because how would there be an epilogue/post-game free roam? That heist took place literally right before chapter 1 of RDR2 so there’s really nothing you can do there. Also the obsession with Blackwater is crazy. IMO it’s better left a mystery. We already know enough to infer what happened anyways.
20:36 Imagine rdr 3 as a native gunslinger in the peak of the wild west as you said. Maybe kind of early into the game after the prologue. And you ride in to this big western town in the desert and the native you play as discovers the white civilisation, and of the way the whites act. And one of the first sights you see as the character you play as is a brawl going on, maybe a bar fight or a duel on the street. And then after the brawl you see that the person who won the fight was Arthur in his wildest days when he was young and cocky. Would be a nice cameo and a cool way to start of an epic story for the native gunslinger.
For me it would bring some Connor vibes from ac 3 when he discovers the city of Boston for the first time with Achilles
I dislike the young Arthur theory or Landon theory because where is the redemption there they always forget it’s a story about redemption and in my opinion I think the main characters in a series like this should die
A game about Landon would be great because
1. he did have redemption by leaving the United States
2. he dies
3. we dont know much about him so it leaves a lot of room for lore
4. some people think Arthur is a better gunslinger than Landon ricketts so it would shut them up
@@ant_178 no shit he dies. Seriously. I thought he was gonna see the world crumble to dust and blow away
@@Billy_the-cat I mean he could die in game dumbass and not just in a newspaper
Finally, someone With a brain
Opening scene of landon and a mentor of his. Mentor killed. Landon then takes up teaching a protoge (player character) who is a young everyman but wants to be a gunfighter. Landon gets his revenge, Character dies, epilogue landon avenges his protoge getting revenge again and then ends in chuparosa 1902 boom not very hard
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What would go amazingly as an Easter egg to the second game was if like, as your a native American you could be on a mission where your tracking down an outlaw that did something yo you ect, and you've been out in the wild for days straight without food when your struck by a snake, no medicine, and right when you think your fate will end, arthur morgan rides past and asks why your inna Bush randomly, upon discovery sucks the venom out and gives you a few days worth of food, what could be such a life or death situation for your character? Could be made to seem like just a 'random encounter' for arthur like he gets alot in the second game (bear traps, snake bites, poisoned people ect)
Just seeing the way itd slot together perfectly and still be a little easter egg to "Arthur's redemption" would be orgasm worthy...
Bro what 💀
@@CruzJAPerezit would be orgasm worthy
@@CruzJAPerez it makes sense? Whats your point 😂
Playing as a Native American in the western expansion would be dope af. Like right before or during the civil war
Defeats the purpose of a Western
@@RyanG0899how, native americans were very present during the wild west and played an integral role in daily life among settlers. i think natives often arent given proper representation either which would give rockstar a good opportunity to shine. just because we arent playing as a “cowboy” doesn’t necessarily mean it isnt western
@@RyanG0899 cowboy isn't the only thing apart of the west boah
Gotta agree with Symin there is plenty of ground to cover with natives and settlers. Both good and bad and I mean shown from both sides. No stupid agendas trying to portray one or the other as the "good guys" as history tends to teach things typically aren't black and white. Same goes for this topic.
@@syrnin Cowboy Native. That would be badass. A revolver in one hand and a tomahawk in the other.
This is my personal pick for the next RDR game. I’ve commented this in other videos, so some people could have seen this already. Keep in mind I am not a professional story writer, nor do I work for rockstar. This story of mine is really interesting to me, so I want to share it with others. Above my actual story, I think my setting is probably what they should go with.
TLDR: Game set at the end of the Civil War, including an ex confederate soldier first protagonist, and a freed slave second protagonist. Game is focused around redemption of character and morality questions.
I’ve said this for years the Van Der Linde Gang story should be over. There’s no way games before or after make sense. I think a game set in the last months to the end of the Civil War would be amazing. New cast of characters, possibly a soldier who has to redeem himself. The time period is a perfect balance between civilized cities and completely untamed frontiers. As a history nerd, the political landscape at the time would be so interesting to me. I think the best way to go with it would be to play as an ex confederate soldier, someone who deserted. You’re marked for death by the confederacy, the Union, and confederate loyalists after the war ends. This could set up areas of the map which are more or less hostile. As well as having ample unique antagonists. A fictional Washington DC and Richmond would be amazing. The dichotomy between the two cities would be so cool to see. Maybe the protagonist was forced to take part in a massacre and tries to redeem himself by doing good acts through criminal means. Having to always question his morality and ethicality. You would meet various characters that you run with or do missions for, sort of like RDR1, but this time you’re hunted. I eventually think this character would have to die, like prior games. The question for who the second protagonist should be is up for debate, but I think a freed slave would be the best choice. Maybe freed by our character, freed by himself, or as a result of the war. This ex slave would have to be integral to the story, so having him run with our ex solider would be essential. They would most likely meet in a hostile interaction but realize they need each other. Being on almost complete separate isles of this conflict, but both are wanted men. Mutual respect would go a long way between the two. Eventually, our second protagonist would avenge the first. There’s a lot of places our second character could go, so I will leave that up to you. Maybe a US Marshall like the real life Bass Reeves, a farmer, living off the grid, or living in plain sight in a city. Although our second protagonist should start a family and name his kid after our first character. Our characters would be motivated to be free from conflict, live on their own terms, and secure a future for themselves.
I think R* would have to be very careful with this to not be historically inaccurate. They also would need to be extremely careful to not portray the Union as an antagonist. I wouldn’t want this to be a pro confederate, anti union game. Along with that, I don’t think portraying the Union as a bastion of good and the confederacy the epitome of evil would be good either. They also would need to portray battles with respect for the people who fought in them. I recognize that playing as an ex confederate could be controversial, so nuance would be crucial. Our character wouldn’t be a confederate ideologue, probably just a poor solider who was drafted to fight. For these reasons, I am not sure how likely R* would be willing to make this game, but they can pull it off. If done right, this story would be amazing for media in general, not just video games.
There’s many more things that I can elaborate on, but this is just a simple outline of the story. People have brought ideas to me ranging from our second protagonist being in an African confederate unit, seeing early lemoyne raiders, Dutch’s dad, and more. Feel free to reply with more suggestions.
Yeah, I think a Post Civil War or Reconstruction game could be really interesting, but imo I think the game should focus more on the West Coast area where the wild west really sprung up.
Idk tho because I just feel like that's not what read dead is about and I feel like the van Der linde gang really made read dead what it is everybody thinks of Dutch and the gang when they hear the words read dead redemption and sometimes I feel like maybe they shouldn't even continue the series because of how perfect read dead 2 was and how it ended it just wouldn't feel right to make an entirely new storyline with different characters after all we've been through with the van Der linde gang (imo)
@@Aids9898 I agree, I don’t think we need to call it Red Dead Redemption 3 for that reason. Just name it Red Dead Reconstruction, or any word that starts with R to keep the theme for the title. We had Red Dead Revolver, which wasn’t related to RDR1 and RDR2. I just think that the RDR story with Dutch and the gang is done, anything more would either be entirely unnecessary or just lack substance. The Red Dead games are a gold mine for rockstar (no pun intended) and I don’t see them stopping Wild West games anytime soon. RDR2 brought the series to new heights, they’re going to want to capitalize on it.
At first I wasn't entirely sold on your idea but the more I read it, the more I got excited for a game like that. Could be really interesting to see, since I can't think of any games off the top of my head that are set in that time period, at least not open world games like RDR.
@@matthewcioffi6385 exactly! I think this would probably be the first AAA game that is set in the American Civil War. At least that I know of. It’s a time period that is still very important to learn from. In RDR2 they referenced it a lot, so I think they may actually go with it. Thank you!
Mac Callandar game would be just perfect. I dissagree with your argument that "you can't build suspense when you already know what's gonna happen to the characters". Good prequels movies/shows/games proves that you can build up suspense even if you know what is going to happen. Mac Callandar has so much potential as a character. Davey Callandar is Micah but less evil. You can build up incredible dynamics between Mac and Davey or Mac and Micah or Davey and Micah. I already see a redemption arc for Mac Callandar. The difference between his and Arthur's redemption arc would be that Arthur changed his behavior and everyone in the gang noticed it. Mac wouldn't have the power to open himself to the world. Everyone in the gang remembered Callandar boys as a pair of crazy fools but after rdr3 we would have in mind that Mac wasn't that crazy. RDR3 with Mac as a main character as so much potential, why can't anybody else notice it??
You defintely can build up suspense, but it would be hard to add stuff that would when you know that nothing really insane happened in the time from before Blackwater, it be much harder to build a story when you have ALL the constraints of RDR2 dialogue, and it would be much easier to just leave the VDL gang out of it.
It's not necessarily true that nothing crazy happened before blackwater. We do know that they were on the run from the west. Theoretically there could have been some wild events that didn't affect Arthur, Dutch, John, Hosea, ect. I think that showing some of the things that other gang members had to deal with would be incredible
Plus we know the gang has been being pushed out of the west for some time. Arthur doesn't mention any deaths leading into the blackwater job but that's not to say they didn't happen. If there were people who were kinda in the gang (think trulany) then it's possible that Arthur wouldn't have mentioned them. We know that at the beginning of the story Arthur is not a super nice person, so it wouldn't be out of the range of possibility for him to just not care about their health. Especially when you consider that even with his development he still is more worried about trulany talking when is taken rather than being worried about his health. That would allow for new characters and events that would include but not revolve around the main part of the gang while also following the story we know already
@@RedDeadTierLists I disagree with you. Because RDR2 did just that- building suspense out of a backstory within the constraints of RDR1. It’s a new story that ties perfectly with the first game. So why not make RDR3 just that. Tying in perfectly with the start of RDR2.
And don’t even get me started on how Mac would make a perfect protagonist gameplay-wise.
I imagine the story having different beats, apart from the last mission as Mac Callander, where the ending beats of RDR2 occur, not only as a reference but also as the redemption arc for our protagonist concludes in a different yet familiar way.
Just imagine the ending. A Mac Callander who slowly dies (like Arthur) in Blackwater shot up and then gets his body filled with bullets by one of the antagonists, agent Milton (like John). With his last redeeming action (and one of the few throughout the game) being saving our beloved Arthur which begins to be the man we later see in RDR2. Exactly how Arthur redeems himself by saving our beloved John who slowly morphs into the man he is in the original game.
Also I think the constraints and limitations could be used as an advantage to make the story go above and beyond the simple storytelling techniques and out of the box thinking to surprise fans. If there’s one company that can write such a story it’s Rockstar.
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I’ve got lots of ideas I’d love to share with you on this topic in particular. How can I?! Please let me know!
I also think a game starring the Callander brothers holds a lot of potential, I could imagine they’re dynamic being similar to that of Daryl and Merle from TWD. With one brother (Mac) who starts the game as a Isolated hothead but finds a family in the Vanderlinde gang which creates conflict and tension between the two. While the other brother (Davey) is still stuck in his old ways but eventually towards the climax decides to be better for the love he has for his brother. That way they can both have their own arc and redemption story.
It’d be lit if we could play landon rickets
Landon Rickettes would be fire, I just think having the main character being one of his gang members would be much more interesting. Maybe playing as Landon in the epilogue would be cool tho.
@@RedDeadTierLists yeah I’d say something along those lines and maybe the epilogue is the shootout he was apparently at in blackwater or we could have said gang member leave somehow be it death or just quitting
I’m surprised he didn’t mention,back of my mind while watching the video I was just wondering when he would talk about him
But we know his fate too so idk if it would work🤔 but then again it's rockstar
@@brandeiii u right my be forgot abt that ngl
Arthur at some point mentioned when I think talking to Tilly about someone who died in camp who was a traitor. But it was probably some kind of joke on the rule about no spilling blood in camp.
I really hope rdr3 is a new story with a new character/gang not everything needs to be connected to the van der linde story as it’s a story that is finished
I think there should be some references to the VDL gang no matter what, but yeah I would also like new characters basically no matter what.
@@RedDeadTierListswhat if the main character is killed by Arthur at the end
One thing I've never seen mentioned is that we could play as Micah's brother, who's mentioned to have gone straight in a letter he sent to Micah (You can find it in camp during Shady Belle at the place you go talk to Strauss for the money lending and other sins V i believe?), it implies that Micah ran with his brother for a while, but said brother (I think his name was Amos) feels bad about his outlaw days with micah and tries to be a better man. The story could be like their outlaw days (but that'd be too cliche right?) so i think do something like RDR2 where Amos and Micah split up at the beginning of the game, with a failed heist or micah thinking Amos betrayed him so he decides to run before Micah kills him, and eventually at the end, we can see Amos with his family. Maybe at the end he could get gunned down by the law for running with micah? that's a lot of parallels though.
And, that letter kind of hinted that Micah is a rapist
I feel like a game with a character like Red Harlow would be cool still an outlaw but in the end doing the right thing
You know how John is against Dutch in the first game than in the second game you play when John was in he’s Dutch gang, what about something similar but you play as Colm ol’drisco being tighter with Dutch and tell their story, you know.
There is still material in Arthur's story that they could create content from , starting with him meeting Dutch and his life up until just after the Blackwater Ferry job . They could also have you play as one of the characters who die at the beginning of RDR2 and have you then jump over to Arthur as you do when you go from Arthur to John and from John to Jack in RDR1 . Another option could be to have a continued story line after RDR2 and before RDR1 that involves John going off to help Charles with starting his family and returning the favor of helping him build your house . There could be multiple missions created around that task as well as opening up a map of Canada . You could then also have an arc of missions where you go to help Sadie in South America , which would open up additional gangs and map areas . You also have Rains Fall and the Native Americans who have fled to Canada who John could help out and have mission quests. Canada and South America would still be wild areas at that time period .
Oregon trail style intro, then playing as one of three outlaws: white, Mexican /Murrieta type, or Indian..taking place between 1840-60.
At the end, you have a Chile shown, which could be a VDL Gang member
A Dutch where you start as a young Dutch filled with Ambition gathering crew, meeting Hosea and in his prime when the law wasn't that strong yet. That would not only be a good game but also add more to Dutch, who already is the best written and most complex character in RDR2
I could see something like this, but we don't need much more to Dutch like as you said he's already probably the character we know the most about in RDR series. Also it doesn't allow for a lot of the suspenseful moments like the deaths of Sean or Lenny to happen likely.
@@RedDeadTierLists Yeah but we never saw the old Dutch. The Dutch who everyone wanted to follow and belived in.
Would be perfect to end te trilogy with him.
And how would the inspirational leader of a gang be able to burn towns and leave camp so often?
Dutch couldn’t be the main character. First of all, He doesn’t die… second of all, slowly going mad isn’t much of a redemption. I feel as though we’ll either get to play as Colm’s brother, who Dutch shot, or as the Callander brothers, with Dutch as a Micah style character, starting as your friend before turning into the main antagonist
I feel like I like this idea but with hosea instead, you could even have the first mission of the game be where you try to rob "that guy over there" and turns out it's dutch
What if you play as Landon Rickets? His story wouldn’t be to hard to figure out his story he is based on a real sheriff but I don’t know. his story is very famous he took down some of the most infamous outlaws of the Wild West pretty much by himself
He’s based off Wyatt Earp. He took down three of the most famous gunslingers by himself outside the OK corral
I think that would work but like you said the story is already there. Maybe a spinoff?
RDR3 Should in my opinion:
Be set during 1865-1882
Follow a New Cast
Have a few Cameos from RDR1 and RDR2 Characters
Have some of the RDR2 Map, maybe just New Austin and West Elizabeth, with the rest being brand new.
And leave the door open for RDR4, and Finally, It Must Have a Good Online. RDO2 Can't be as bad as RDO Was
hell nah. rd4 is too far. even the debatability of what rdr3 should be about might be too far. I think it should be about the gang tho because it's always been the story of the gang. in 1 you pick off the remnants of the gang, in 2 you see the gangs downfall, 3 only makes sense you see the gangs uprising and in their prime
@@datguy8468 The van der Linde Gangs Story I'd Done. I hate to say this, but we know too much for a RDR3 Prequel, amd no one can get their red dead Redemption. What else is there to tell. And the RDR4 Thing yeah that's kinda dumb but TakeTwo and R* need that Money, Boah
@@TheSoapontheWii360 "know too much" damn that's such a lame way of experiencing these stories. especially since we've literally only seen the end of it. would it really be such a big problem if we just saw situations or locations they described and even new minor characters or obstacles? apparently the gang has been all across the country across a 20 year timespan yet we just see the end of the story. was the star wars prequel trilogy ruined because we "knew too much" like who exactly was going to rule the entire galaxy?
@@datguy8468 Look, We Know that nothing too important is going to happen, because why wasn't it mentioned in the second game. I Wish we had a new prequel with Arthur, John, Dutch, and the others, I Don't Think It Will Work. No one seen in RDR2 and RDR1 Will Die, and if someone new is there, they either have to die or Lesve the Gang, but then again why weren't they mentioned in RDR2?
@@TheSoapontheWii360 who cares? not every story hasnt to have an arch to it nor have major new characters. that's why I say minor characters or obstacles. some that an 18 year old arthur, dutch and hosea would deal with and then forget 15 years later. it's such a large time span, anyone and anything could happen that they could forget or don't mention. there could be a dozen more gang members we didn't see. def more heists we didn't see. this series has gone too far to be about anything other than the van der linde gang that it seems the only sensible option would be to go back. otherwise it would feel like a completely different game picking a new set of characters
We know 3 things about the Traitor
They were a traitor
They were killed in camp
They joined and died before tilly joined
The only way to know we play as the traitor is if rockstar said "oh yeah btw you play as the traitor".
The second game introduced new characters that died off characters that weren't even mentioned in rdr1 so how come rdr3 can't do that.
I can not try to agree that a traitor game wouldn't work. Also theres a trend in the franchise
Rdr1 is about the post gang and pretty much post wild west and rdr2 focuses on the end of the gang and wild west so why cant rdr3 be about the prime of the gang and wild west honestly they probably could do a similar thing for an rdr4 the birth of the gang and birth of the prime of the wild west becuase you cant view the birth of the wild west and the gang at the same time.
This idea is bad and crumbles when you think about it
@@BrickHunt1818 why? Is it just not possible to explain things before throwing out a take like you blurted out a point with no damn explanation and evidence to you're take
Before rdr2 the gang had only been in West Elizabeth and New Austin so the map would be even smaller then rdr2s map and there is no way to counter this point the map is way smaller among other reasons
@@Envixin753 is this not a solid point
@@BrickHunt1818 there's more west than new Austin they will just do what they did in rdr2 introduce an entire new area to the map and then after you beat the game unlock rdr1 2 and 3s maps together its not that complicated
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Brother he got 13k subs, he's still a growing boy 💀
Idk why that dude is saying that as this is literally my best performing video in the last 10.
@@RedDeadTierListsit’s a trend where you comment within the first few minutes of a video and say that, I see that in every video I watch
@@Skeleton52925 Yeah I've noticed that too, even on Instagram and whatnot
I believe rdr3 should be as Mac but it shouldn’t start in black water. They should do about 5-6 chapters in different towns in a Different map then the last chapter could be black water or either black water epilogue
I think the game should end when they're about to rob Blackwater.
The Wild West has many stories that can be made. I think a whole new story should be made
Great video, heres my 2 cents, one of my favorite parts of rdr2 was going back to rdr1 with a new frame of mind, we saw dutch, bill and Javier but at that point they all had devolved into horrible outlaws who youd never think had any good in them despite what john says, then we played the 2nd and we saw them gradually stray from the morals of arthur, and gravitate toward the self preservation of dutch, call me crazy but i really do think a game where you play as dutch hosea or a young arthur could work very well, i get your point of there being no suspense but i look at it the same way as when near the end of rdr2 dutch says john didnt make it, we all knew he survived, but it showed the decline of the morality the gang once showed, also i like the idea that rdr1 was well past the era of outlaws, rdr2 was near the end, and the 3rd game could be where the era was still going strong, alot of potential to be had there, but as i said this was a great video and i hope at least one person reads through this if not you
Imo. I think it should be Jack. He chose revenge just like John did. In this franchise our protagonist deal with “actions have consequences” and in the case of John especially revenge really was a fool game.
So I would be completely open picking up right where we left off in 1914 with Jack and tell the story of him going on the run for being suspected of killing Edgar Ross. 1 last old west story.
World War I is a non-issue. Rdr1 ends in 1914 but America doesn’t join the war until April 1917. But regardless the entire war from start to finish was never once fought on American soil. So you can easily just leave the war as something that’s only mentioned in newspapers or by npc’s.
I could see a story for Jack with him killing some government people that helped kill his dad.
Maybe a gang before the van der linde gang could work, set around the california gold rush, a group of outlaws from the east flee west to seek wealth to try and either escape the law forever or pay their extremely high bounty. Law chases, like rdr2, yadda yadda yadda, las mission could be like the law has found the gang, no escape, they run into the mines and have a huge shootout, then the law starts using dynamite, locks the gang inside the cave, law hears a few gunshots and then all the gang is dead. For epilogue, let's say a few gang members escaped the law before being forced into the caves. One of them could be the gang's sniper. The best surviving member would be getting hung, and the mission starts from first-person pov of the best member, rope is shot, and a huge shootout to kick off the epilogue.
very unnderrated storyline sure but the ending isnt justifiable. it should be more like rdr2 where everyone is slowly killed off also it could be that they pay off the bounty and start living as an honourable farming community to give this series a happy ending for once
@darshilshah6329 also thought of another thing, could make it like watch dogs legion. Instead of starting with a huge gang, you only start with the necessary people like a cook, medic, and some gunmen. As you play, you could recruit more people into the gang. Some types would be needed for certain missions like snipers or girls for distractions. Camp members would also have stat bars in camp to show how hungry they are, how sick they are, what diseases they have, and how happy they are. You will have to actually take care of the gang, make sure it has food, ammo, and medical supplies. Just an idea tho
I’ve got an idea for a game that people might not love but I think it might fit in with the story.
Game set in 1909 (Ik it’s not a western but the entire red dead redemption franchise is ab the dying west and this game could still be more Wild West like) anyway in rdr1 John makes a comment which is meant to make his character more tragic and his backstory more deep, but he says he had a daughter but she died. In the first chapter of this game she dies in a home attack, John is obviously furious and goes after revenge and tries tracking them down which makes Abigail and Jack furious.
As for a map expansion the attackers could’ve fled to Canada and get the help of Charles and Sadie to help kill the attackers (it’s likely they’d both help and it will make sense very soon) I think during the pursuit both Sadie and Charles should die, hear me out, this sounds bad but the entire game shows people who get revenge as people who get karma the hardest and it makes no sense for John to die in rdr1 and that’s his punishment for looking back, but Sadie and Charles run off Scott free. So I feel like Sadie and Charles could die in the pursuit for revenge to conclude there arc. In the end John can either end his revenge and give up which his redemption of the story, where he realised his daughters gone and he can’t do anything about it, or he goes after his revenge and gets his payback in rdr1.
This might be a shitty story idea but I think it makes sense and fits with themes and can add more depth to John. The story can also explain how John seems even more shut off in rdr1 and how jack mentions him leaving all the time in rdr1.
Honestly the best option would be a game set either in the 50’s-60’s or in the 70’s-80’s with a new story. Maybe a little mission that feature Dutch and Hosea teaming up or trying to scam the protagonist for fan service
Horrible idea
what kind of western story takes place in the 70's-80's
@@e-1074 1860s and 1870s. Besides there are many westerns that do that. No Country for Old Men is considered one. I'm not a huge fan of the idea though since I don't really want the Ven Der Linde gang back. Their story is over
Idk why, but I've always wanted a story for RDR3 reminiscent of Django Unchained and The Harder They Fall, but with it being a prequel to RDR2 as well. The best option would be if we played as Charles Smith's father, who is likely an interesting character too, considering how cool Charles is lol. It would be set right at the start of the American Old West era and the end of slavery (1864 - 1865), with the main character being a freed slave who becomes a gang leader to free most slaves and become the real Robin Hood in America, which would inspire someone like young Dutch to become like. Along the way, we'd encounter familiar faces of that time, like a young Hosea and Uncle. And oh yeah voiced by Christopher Judge definitely
I totally agree about it being like someone in Landon's gang. Or another fun idea would be someone close to Black Belle. She was such a cool character and Id love to see more of her.
I feel like a Sadie story definitely has potential and would make a great game, but only if the prologue is stellar, specifically because they would need to define a threat to Sadie, a big threat not a small, hell, they could even introduce a whole new gang to us.
Low-key I don't think there should be an rdr3 , the community is soo split on ideas for THEIR own satisfaction and it's a lose lose situation for rockstar, we need a prime theme or at least a main timeline
I think if it’s done well enough it will win people over but yeah, very divided right now
@@mustardtiger6062 fr. The only way they can fill everyone's needs is with one story and a gazillion dlc's
As much as I love the series, I agree. I’m confident that there will be a new Red Dead game but I feel like the redemption/Van der linde story is over.
We need something that has red harlow in it
@@cindyxrdz what we need is to decide a TIMELINE first then start thinking on what it could be, because a lot of words start with R and that could be a clever sweep 4 rockstar but once we decide a timeline we think, cuz rdr3 is a big project 4 r*
Bro Jack is not Italian he can’t join the mafia
Well they can figure a way to have him join he's not Italian but he's a good shot
I was about to refute when you mentioned Charles not making sense as a sequel protag but then when you pointed out that he's set as an honorable character then you really made a great point!! ❤ I'd love a DLC still, but why wouldnt it be profitable? genuinely curious because DLCs seem to work for Capcom.
I don’t think another prequel would be bad. Just add a new crop of new characters in the younger days of the gang. It’s not that crazy to think more people who were associated with Hosea and Dutch might have died long before the events of RDR2. Epilogue chapter where you play as Arthur during the Blackwater incident is in theme with the epilogue chapters from the other two John is main character in RDR, and the epilogue character in the prequel. Arthur is main character in RDR2, and could be epilogue character in RDR3. I’ll most likely play regardless
I think a rdr3 about the o Driscoll gang would be cool
Maybe Colm's brother, We know little about him, Maybe we play as him like John and Arthur and then he is killed by dutch so then it switch to colm like Jack and John, where Colm revenge against dutch by killing Anabelle or something.
id go with before they and Dutch were enemies, and the epilogue would be the blackwater incident
It would be more cool with some native american like Apache or Plains indians
I think a Lyle Morgan game should be heavily considered, or at least someone who ran with him in a gang or something. Lyle could’ve been a terrible man at first, beating or abusing his child at least mentally, doing bad things, but as he sees his grow and he realizes all the bad he’s done then he finally does something good which maybe saves Arthur, which is why he keeps his hat, and it leads to Lyle being executed. Then maybe we play as Arthur. We have to consider that when thinking about a story as well, because so far both games you’ve played as a new character at the end. But also playing as a member of the gang is a good way of getting close, but not too close to Arthur and his father and seeing those bad things. The game be about that person seeing Lyle die, realizing all their bad they’ve done together or something. And it would work well with letting us play as Arthur at the end, which could also time jump to when he’s a young adult and just falling in with Dutch and Hosea. And now we have the origin story of the gang. Just like we got the origin story of John Marston, and Beechers hope.
Game about colm O'Driscoll's brother would be perfect, you finally get to explore the real wild west at its prime, it actually has some ties to the var der linde gang, and it follows the rdr rule that the main character die at the end (by dutch)
When looking at the maps of both games, there is a section to the top right that looks like it would be the next section for a prequel, they did talk about being up in the northern parts of the states by Montana, it would make sense before getting down to black water they were in the northern parts beyond the grizzlies, in a Colorado type area. In the beginning of Arthur’s journal he talks of a fire and nonsense in the north
In the peak Wild West it’s 1876, you spawn in as a player hiding from an outlaw trying to kill him. By your side is 15 year old Landon Ricketts (That’s when they give new players a tutorial) You do end up killing them and find your horse dead so u jump on someone’s wagon. (Leave them for dead) and have a talk about some other stuff, we learn that your name is Richard Anderson and your family moved here when you were 8 but the property they bought was owned by a serial killer, (then it will flash back to a scene where your huddled in your bed listening to the screams of your parents) then you have to control the player and leave the house then it will fade white and head back to a part where you and Landon Ricketts go to the store and there is a mission that says duel “Legendary gunslinger Harvey Coleman” If you died it will respawn you at an old cabin near the town you were just at and Landon will be sitting beside you and then a doctor will come up and say you got shot and your health will be half as low then Landon says I’ve got some money let’s grab you a nice horse, you respond and say I’m shot so he’ll yah. You have an option between 5 horses but the last one is locked . After you buy the horse Landon asks if you’re heading back to camp or staying at the town. If you choose to head back you will meet a new gang. But it’s different. It’s similar to a group of Good people and each has a part of the law. You are the newest member only being inducted 8 months ago. The leader is a chief known as Mr. Khan he is an Asian man who was born in America and fell in love with crime but the correct side of crime. If you chose to stay back you have an opportunity to do a bounty mission but first you have to buy better weapons and ammo because Harvey took it. Then you do the bounty mission.
If you won the duel against Harvey automatically it will show you how honor levels work giving you +5 honor. Then you learn that you’re all out of bullets when it shows you how to look at your weapon wheel. Landon asks if you’re heading back to camp or staying at the town. If you choose to head back you will meet a new gang. But it’s different. It’s similar to a group of Good people and each has a part of the law. You are the newest member only being inducted 8 months ago. The leader is a chief known as Mr. Khan he is an Asian man who was born in America and fell in love with crime but the correct side of crime. If you chose to stay back you have an opportunity to do a bounty mission but first you have to buy better weapons and ammo because the duel costed you your bullets. Then you do the bounty mission.
THAT IS WHAT RDR3 SHOULD BE
yes I know that being a lawman would limit your ability to play in sandbox mode but if you arnt doing missions you can Litteraly walk around and kill people and get the police called on you as long as you change outfits and wear a mask 🗿
its going to be the guy john killed when he was a kid
Bro what 💀💀💀 you better be joking lol💀
Mac Callander RD3
@@stormmist3634 sorry bro am not
Its really hard to do a prequel because you know most of what happened i liked your two ideas for the story and i think sadie adler is not a bad idea
Your ideas are really cool, it would be interesting if you or one of your characters friends are killed on screen by Arthur or another early van der linde member. It would be cool to see more of Arthur being even more ruthless in earlier life
Rdr3 should have a new protagonist new map just like every new gta end of discussion...
You could play as colms brother
No💀💀
Mac Callander RD3
Would be interesting to maybe play as the Jack Hall gang. They’re mentioned in a campfire song and also you can find the treasure maps. Set it in the 1870’s-80’s and it would be its own thing.
It would be great to play as Mac calander from like 1880s- Blackwater heist and we see him being shot but escapes and is later found by the Pinkertons and is either killed as we are told or somehow survives
The people who's saying "you fell off" is just missing the whole fucking point.
The difficulty of coming up with a good story for RDR2 is shown here so its easy to say RDR2 would and should be the last RDR game.
Also, have to give it to you. People just spew out their ideas they formed in their heads without giving them a single thought about implications and how they would work, and you seems to be the only person so far i've seen that rejected all these dumb theories bcz they actually wouldn't work in the grand scheme of things.
I think it should be set up like gtaV like how Franklin meets Michael and then you play as Trevor, I think you should start as arthur during the time John left, and then after a heist or something you start playing as John and eventually meet back up with the gang and play through the events that lead up to the Blackwater massacre
On a side note i saw from other comment. Seeing as RDR3 would be the last game in the story, as shown from the difficulty of coming up with a story that makes sense, Red Dead Revenge would actually kinda be a good "spin-off" type of game where it would be a continuation as supposed to other games which are prequels.
I was VERY against the idea of playing as Jack after the events of RDR1, but imagine starting the game in events right before ending of WW1 where you do some side stuff, no real battles (huge gun fights kinds wouldn't work at the start of the game) as WW1 wouldn't be the main aspect of the game so no point of making it huge, just enough to show he had some hardships, maybe PTSD, idk... Then you get home and connect with one of your buddies from the war and he gets you into low ranks of the Mafia where you would do basic missions like driving alcohol around, taking protection money (low level stuff like the start of GTA SA) etc, just to get thing going. You could also make chapters where you travel to other city and at the end you would have some type of thing where you would come up at the top, like a mafia boss, where you would fight your buddy who became jealous of you, and as the story isnt "Redemption", rather "Revenge" you wouldn't have to die, or maybe you could, idk... Sounds fun, and come to think of it, its almost a copy of GTA SA
I think you should play as mac or davey Callander because since you know there gonna die at the end of the game it would be hard to get attached to them like you do with Arthur and John so the story would have to go above and beyond to make that happen
That’s exactly the kind of story I thought would work best for rdr3
This is a horrible idea
what would be the redemption story exactlt
Idk how people think rdr3 isn’t going to be related to the first 2 games, there’s still so many unanswered questions
Its going to be related but but we have know so much about Arthur and the rest and how they became the people they are. So it would be better to make it about someone new.
If it's a direct prequel/sequel to the first two games, it's going to be really stale and uninspired. If it's a prequel to RDR2, it would ruin the remaining mystery. The only way it could work while being related to the first two, would be if it followed another character who wasn't a gang member in Dutch's gang.
We all love the world but the current storyline has run its course. There’s a certain mysticism surrounding not knowing every single detail of a story, and going even further in depth would just start to run it into the dirt
@@mustardtiger6062 couldn’t disagree more, Blackwater is a massive part of both games but it’s still shrouded in mystery, I think we need one more game to tie up loose ends and then the story is complete
Knowing when characters are going to die doesn't always make a bad story
The prologue should be a short few missions as a very young Arthur or John then transition to you being Mac Callander playing the glory years of the gang with the epilogue taking a small time skip and ending with the blackwater massacre and Mac being killed by Milton
I don't really think the glory years of the gang would be easy to tell a story that fits in the Red Dead dynamic because the other two games have been full on tragedies.
@@RedDeadTierLists the tragedy is the ending. You see how good the gang had it going
No offence but this is a terrible idea
Other than the prologue I really like the idea
@@RedDeadTierListsI definitely think they should do Mac I wanna see how skilled he was and he also sacrificed himself for Arthur and the gang to escape
There needs to be an Australian red dead, playing as Ned Kelly
i think red dead 3 should have the protagonist be black belle. she was a legendary gunslinger that was deemed " too dangerous" to approach in the in game quest and her story has an obscure end where she literally just rides away from you.
for the before the first 2 games idea easy mac or davey or whatever his name was that died in the beginning of the game giving even more backstory showing the more wilder wild west the near the fall of west its dying down but still atleast 40 percent there
Edit: i just thought of something that will make this less of a good idea theres no redemption in this unless rockstar decided to make davey the arthur before arthur and make him get sick or some shit but i dont reckon that will happen but it could just still be a good idea
I still really like the idea of RDR3 continuing the story of Jack as becomes a writer while trying to finally leave his old life behind and with the ending having him break the cycle where instead of dying like Arthur and John he’s the one that gets out completely and lives the rest of his life in peace. I definitely don’t think it should be a WW1 or Mafia game cause it goes against the themes and setting of the series imo.
but how interesting would that be
I want to play as arthurs dad and in the epiloge the young arthur who is about to join the van der line gang
It would be really cool if you got to start your own gang. Like a game about Hosea, Dutch and Arthur type characters but with original characters.
Have it be set before the events of RDR2 where the Van Der Linde Gang is also pretty small still and you can experience some of the stuff Arthur, Dutch and Hosea got up to in their younger days through like newspapers and other easter eggs. Maybe have a mission where the Van Der Linde Gang steals one of your gigs like they did to Colm a couple times. That would be really funny. 😂
these are pretty good predictions, but i still think we should do a young arthur game, because while we do know a lot about arthur, we could also see a lot of the stories told in rdr 2 play out, even his and mary’s relationship
I get the sense he was evil back then. That's my theory
you say about how its bad we already know the fate of mac but we knew the fate of arthur if you played rdr1 since he didnt appear or was mentioned. imo if we are continuing the gangs story playing as mac it would make sense since some dialogue from bill says that mac wasnt a good man but he wasnt all bad which sets up a honor system
My idea is a DLC
I call it RED DEAD Asian, it pretty much takes place in Lemoyne in 1875 when the Lemoyne Raiders where more than just a Nuisance. There a gang that's Pretty much different than any other gang in RDR2 there trained by Army soldiers and In my opinion they Ambush the player better than any other gang in the game in My opinion You play as a Asian Character his Parents move to America for a better life and his father joined in the civil war to fight against the confederacy To get citizenship After the war the father came home but the house was attacked by confederate soldiers Because the father stole documents that can reveal Spies among the union Years later The son Has those documents And wants revenge on the Lemoyne Raiders for killing his mother and scaring his face when he was 11 The comedic relief character is a man named ralph L. Dalton AKA the Gun store owner in valentine
Playing as a cop would just feel more like an LA Noire sequel to me. And to be honest if Rockstar did make another Noire game I think late victorian era London would be the best setting. Imagine trying to solve Jack the Ripper's case.
Secondly: I think we should have a remake of Red Dead Revolver. I played it way back when and as objectively subpar as it is the game had a LOT of potential and it stood on strong legs because it was strongly influenced by spaghetti westerns.
New protaganist ❤
I just want the next Red Dead game to be about different characters entirely, i feel like the RDR series is good as is, and it doesn't need another addition.
I 100% agree. It should be treated as a more historical version of GTA. Every GTA mainline game is a completely different story with different characters in different places.
They should follow Sadie for the years between the end of Arthur in rdr2 and meeting up with John later in the epilogue
A Django story line would be an awesome!
I think a red dead game set in around the time of blending Kansas would be amazing. Maybe it could show red Harlow becoming the legend that we hear about in the other red dead games (and since red dead revolver is decannonized they could pretty much do whatever they want with the story)
I think they should continue with Jack. Jack finds a letter left by his mother explaining that his real father was Dutch. Jack discovers history of mental instability in his family. 🤔 Jack falls in love and gets married but his wife ends up getting murdered out of revenge for one of Johns murders. Jack was the intended target but the wife ended up being the victim. Jack picks up his fathers guns and go's out for revenge. Jack has psychotic beaks periodically throughout the game. He tries to finish his revenge quest before he completed loses his mind.
Red Dead Revenge?? 😆
I'm sorry but Dutch being Jack's father is not a good idea at all, kinda ruins John finally accepting Jack as his child.
@@RedDeadTierLists Grown up Jack's character model looks a lot like Dutch and Abigail was a lady of the night. Dutch said that she had been with the whole gang in RDR 1. Maybe John knew but accepted him anyway. Jack could be anyone's son. 🤔 I'm just thinking this through. 😆
Jack is John’s son.
They have the same face model and npc’s always mistake Jack as his father
@@Bugplanet8840 After Jack discovers the truth, he changes his last name from Marston to Whoreson. His new name would be Jack Whoreson. 🤔
@@billywilliams4183 not true. John is Jacks father it’s 100% true
Hot take there shouldn't be an rdr 3
Honestly what i was thinking. Rdr was set a weird time to want to continue. Other than making prequels which they already did theres not much
I think they should make Red Dead Revolver 2 we need a modern Wild West game
@ToBy11334 yea, that would be better
I mean RDR3 would be tough but there will for sure be a continuation of the Red Dead series somehow.
@RedDeadTierLists Yeah, but it would feel weird having a whole new cast of characters. I mean, GTA does that, but Red dead redemption Is a connected story it'll just be weird
We could also have Red Dead Stories and play as each gang member who can shoot (Micah, Lenny, Hosea, etc.) and experience their backstories.
i feel like another story around the vdl gang wouldn’t be good cuz u already know about the gangs outcome at the end
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I remember something from the game Arthur was talking about the gang and the times in other states and we have no idea what happened during this playing as Arthur during these points would be fun and we don’t need to throw out the ending being the black water massacre just because we know that Arthur won’t die doesn’t mean it will cheapen the suspense of the story same way with the epilogue and John
I think playing as mac and davey is the only way we could possibly continue as the van der linde gang but your right it wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense giving that we already know how and when there story ends, however it feels like rockstar purposely left so many things about mac and Davey as well as black water unsolved because they intend on doing more with them
I was thinking it would be one of the characters that died early on that we don't really know anything about, and it would almost be like the same version of RDR two how this guy died
2:44 those films take place way before ww2 with legend of the falls taking place in WW1/ around 1920 and the other movie in the 1920s
How about we play as a character who is either a lone wolf who robs on his own and later joins the Van Der Linde gang and dies and then we play as Arthur in the epilogue.
I’ve thought a lot about this subject, and I think it should take place as a whole other gang based maybe around New Austin/Mexico And maybe at some point, you run into the Vanderlin gang and see them as the bad guys
I think a civil war or post civil war game were you play as a confederate bushwhacker would be fun. You could maybe have it where you end up being the one to kill dutchs father and Dutch kills you at the end of the game as revenge
play as a member of a gang of one of the older outlaws in their prime and it turns out that people like landon rickets, dutch, hosea, (arthur towards the end), and a bunch of new people in the gang that eventually breaks up to have dutch and landon go on their own. possibly people like colm or someone who started the lemoyne raiders could be in it but the focus would be on all of the older gunslingers of the past where the wild west used to be way more interconnected until the breaking out which fully set rdr2 into action.
I feel like Charles would be a good game if like he gets his family and then either they die or they get taken and be has to find them or get revenge
I would love to play as Black Bell!
I know Sadie has a complete character arc, but there's something interesting about her coming to South America.
Here in Brazil we had a wild west of our own, called cangaço, that could be a nice place for her. It had all the repeaters, revolvers, small towns, government trying to slowly creep in, and local corrupt rulers called Coroneis.
I know they would never make a game set somewhere with basically no English speakers, but it's an interesting idea for a guarma-like chapter, with her starting in another country and then going back to the US for some reason and finding out John is dead.
Her arc is complete, but I do think there could be more with this character.
I would like to see a character that used to be a lawman but didn’t see true justice so he went out and became a outlaw killing other outlaws, but there’s twists, like; you can become a sociopath and his character takes a more Dutch like feel, where he’s lost empathy and became a sociopath lying to himself as if it’s the greater good.
I think this could work really well, he could be a famous gunslinger and could still be a lawman. But you can also have an outlaw, I think it should be set in the late 1880’s or the early 1900’s after the events of RDR2. The 1880’s idea is more in the Wild West prime and there could be reference to Dutch or Arthur, with also characters like Milton appearing and it making sense.
I think this game could also be some kind of follow up to Red Dead Revolver and set in that area, maybe even a mission with Harlow, expand on what happened to him.
That’s just my concept
Rdr 3 should set in a real wild west setting. With a story oriented on dance with wolves
They could go with one on the organ trail where you are team up with/ fight outlaws and tribes that way it keeps new characters close together but not as a new gang
i like the Landon Rickett’s gang member idea, and we could even connect it to Dutch Van Der Linde through maybe Hosea, Dutch, or even maybe Arthurs father. And the epilogue can be Hosea’s short stint away from the gang with his wife.
I think something that would work out is to have a protagonist set in the early years of when Dutch and Colm were business associates. The protagonist could have had contact with some of the characters we already know, maybe even Arthor or Dutch. Being a completely new character involved in events that aren't specific to the vanderland would mean they don't have to make things fit but still include somethings that are familiar.