I never thought of having San Francisco but it sounds like a great idea. Also the 1860's setting, so much was happening back then besides the civil war, id love to go south of the border and experience the Mexican Empire, actual vaqueiros or just the western part of America in general. I really hope rdr3 goes this direction.
A map of Mexico and Central America would be amazing, the late 1800s was a volatile time for that region which would make for some exciting high energy missions.
I would love a Lawman/vigilante game, having it where the "redemption" in the game is when the lawman redeems himself of the corrupted system he is in. I also love the idea of a young man wrapped up in a gang (perhaps the Van Der Linde one) and the "redemption" in that game is him leaving to start a family, and after we play as a young Arthur Morgan for the epilogue. Realistically, we're getting Mac Callander for RDR3, as he was being built as this massive character in Arthur's life and has some of the same story beats that Arthur had.
Did you finish the game? Its clear that we will probably play as Sadie. I mean for crying out loud the character Mac is only talked about during chapter 1 and 2. Its just exposition bro nothing more.
Rdr lawman would be a damn masterpiece. But what I REALLY want is more drip. The lack of Panchos and eyepatches and even things that the gang wore really angered me
Flipping the other games' west meets east would be neat. You'd start out in a caravan of pioneers from an east coast city bound for California with plans to tame the west, but gradually become more disillusioned with society as the journey progresses further into wild country. Civil War deserter turned bushwhacker would also go hard.
I completely agree that the Van Der Linde Gang story is complete. My favorite Wild West story is the Lincoln County War. I think a cattle baron war would be cool in a landscape like the heartlands and west elizabeth with the option to go into the mountains to be a mountain man. That timing doesn’t align great but that’s my favorite thing to do.
Your lawman idea is cool. Going along with your idea of a lawman who becomes dissuaded with the powers that be, I could see something like "Training Day" but set in the wild west.
@@cohengamertv6548 exactly, but I would hate to play as Eagle Flies himself. It would just feel lazy to go back to the same map with returning characters because their story is already finished
A lot of people talk about having Landon Ricketts as the protagonist but I think it should be someone who road with him so we don’t know his fate also they i think they should use one of the people on gunslinger cigarettes cards to give some world building The perfect person to use is Bart love cuz he’s on a card and we know nothing about him Also have a girlfriend or wife that you can flirt with and sleep with don’t show anything tho I wouldn’t be able to get the game if that happens Maybe in the high honor ending you leave go have kids and the game end no epilogue or ability to play that might be stupid idk
What you said about seasons was spot on I’ve always thought Roanoke ridge needed an autumn setting as it’s based on Appalachia which has stunning autumns
Sign me up for the Lawmen Story, maybe thats how your honor level could be used in RDR3, possibly if you had low honor you resign from being a sheriff and if you keep high honor you decided to stay a sheriff.
I want a game that takes place somewhere around 1873-77 because that was the peak of the Outlaw Era in the Wild West. That was when Outlaws weren’t just lowdown criminals running from a country, a world, that didn’t want them anymore. They were icons they were as famous as they were feared. Heroes and Villians. We could see the Tatum Brothers and Otis Miller and the 5 Gunslingers from RDR2. You would be an Outlaw trying to reach the level of Otis Miller and Jim ‘Boy’ Calloway.
ngl i would like a california gold miner traveling west with his family and getting raided by bandits or smth with him being the only one left alive going on a revenge mission with a darker story and an aiden pearce type character who doesnt care for himself or anything else until the end.
In RDR2 they talk about a time with the gang was separated for a couple months or years before black water. Arthur and Hosea got separated from Dutch and John, each having their own groups to look after. I believe the next game will be set in this time. Roughly 1897, and you will play as both Mac and Davey Callander
I agree with the idea that we need an RDR game that takes place much earlier than the other two. They were both excellent games but there is so much more potential in having a game set in the 1860's, probably near the end of the Civil War. Maybe have the protagonist be a member of an outlaw gang made of Confederate deserters? That way the protagonist would be getting hunted by both the Confederate and Union Armies. Have them move west to get away from both the fighting and have the adventure begin.
I want a game like where you play as a 16-20-year-old kid in Missouri in the civil war or a bit before the civil war 1855-1859. Where you are a former confederate guerrilla during the war you were with a Willam Quantrill or Bloody bill Anderson type character. I think after the war the main character should become a gunfighter. Or start his own gang (like most of the former confederate guerrillas did after the civil war). After like a few chapters he leaves the gunslinger or outlaw life he starts a family until an old gang member/bounty hunters attack his home and hurts his family. Injured and dazed he rides to a town, and he gets patched up and he starts his quest for vengeance. I forgot to mention after the war he moves west so he could have a better start his gunfighting/outlaw career.
13:37 I totally agree with this. I've had both weed and alcohol and they do not make your vision all blurry and change colors. It's kind of hard to potray the actual feeling you get but I think the Rdr1 way was as close as you can get with all the stumbling around.
The native american storyline from RDR2 was one of the best parts of the game, I wish they would show more of those people’s cultures. I love to find items and points of interest around the map that tap into this side of history. My character in RDOnline was a native american as well and I loved roleplaying as such, stealthing my way into enemy camps with my bow and arrow, bringing out the tomahawk for the brutal kills. It’s awesome.
I think an interesting option would be a classic empire building story where we’re an ex-Soldier of the Civil War and we come out west and we try to establish a ranching empire and build up a town in the most lawless territory and have to fight off everyone but if you play like the Duttons of Yellowstone, it all burns down but if you play it like John Wayne, the town defends you
I think haunted locations would be cool I mean we have the haunted battlefield in rdr2. Also let me make time accurate soldier uniforms and give the npcs the ability to comment on your outfit depending on where you're at
Personally, I wouldn't mind another game following the Van Der Linde Gang. I would really like to see a game that takes place during the Civil War though!
Another interesting idea is playing as a freed slave who then becomes an outlaw. This happened often in the old west and is a particularly tragic but also interesting idea for a character imo.
I love the idea of expanding outward west, theres so many ideas in my head for a red dead threes map, a redwood forest area with a town that’s almost a mix of rhoads and Strawberry, a cramped San Fransisco inspired city on the coast, and a county based off the red rocks in Colorado just to name a few. We hear that Sean joined in the game in north Elizabeth, which brings up ideas of a less harsh Ambarino containing a coal mining town in the foot hills. Another cool idea is a new region of the Grizzles, as micha joined in a bar in the grizzles, maybe there could be a tavern on the road for travelers? Not a full on settlement but just a few houses and a large bar and inn. I also think the idea of a man coming out to Thives Landing would be an awesome idea, joining the law force there imagining life on the west as your stereotypical good guys vs bad guys narrative, only to realize that the police were pains off, hence the name thieves landing, and that live in the west is truly a lot more morally grey than it seems. And when his family dies of cholera, he hangs up his badge and begins traveling the country, trying to bring overs the dream life on the prairie he never had, possibly inspiring a young Dutch. Or, in the case of a low honor route, he gives up on life, and does the bidding of a corrupt lawman, roaming the frontier doing dirty business with gangs and locking people away for not paying things like protection.
My dude I wanna thank you so much for this video because it restored my faith in human ideas and creativity. Since years I read only the things you mentioned at the start, Sadie, blackwater, origin story, Callander brothers and was only thinking: how goddamn lame is that. You got me already in the first minute of the video, natives, civil war, Sergio Leone, game is set much further in the past, yes, it's a western! Enough of van der linde, maybe just a few random references around the open world and nothing more.
A map based on the west coast extending from San Fran in the south, Portland to the north. The western border would be the pacific and the eastern border would be the rocky mountians. The time period would be around 1880-1890. These areas have a very rich history that is filled with its own folklore and legends. The main storyline could incorporate some of this folklore (like Bigfoot, ufos around mt Shasta, cursed Indian burial grounds, buried treasures) and the story of the protagonist could have run its with Trelawny, and a young Micah Bell and his father. It’s known that Micah lived in the Bay Area and Trelawny would travel to oregon for business. We could completely leave behind the Van Der Lin gang for the main story but simultaneously get insight into how Micah became the bastard we all loathe. This is the game I want to play.
I think being able to climb trees is a really bad idea, I feel like it would not fit in at all with how movement works in RDR and RDR2. But the ability the go prone/supine would 100% fit in (if only in hunting/sniping)
I'd like to play as one of the Crow. By far, the most hated tribe by their fellow natives yet curiously honorable in that they faced their enemies 1v1 without exception. It was rough enough for any Native, but to be a native hated by your own kind would be a whole 'nother degree of rough.
14:35 if the game is actually set in the 1860s and early 70s, i hope rockstars makes actually good clothing options for online characters this time, if they don’t add flowy ponchos, belts that actually fit, shawls, bonnets and crinolines/bustles (and the option to get them off whenever we need to) i’m gonna be so disappointed but not surprised
I absolutely love the lawman/vigilante story idea and how awesome that story could be, an idea i had for that story I had was maybe every person you hunt down you can either kill them or bring them in and watch them get hanged, and the title i thought of is pretty sick ( Red dead revenge ) Great video as always
I think RDR3 could still be about the Van Der Linde gang. I would enjoy a game about the dude arthur talks about when playing Dominoes with Tilly. He talks about a "traitor" that Dutch killed in the camp. Maybe this character could've had some sort of redemption like Arthur did. Maybe he saved an enemy of the Van Der Linde gang that he had a secret relationship with or something. And it would be before red dead redemption 2 which would link up with how the games go back in the timeline. And we don't know anything about him other than he is an unnamed "traitor", which isn't a big spoiler for the game
Setting the game in the actual Wild West not the end of the Wild West would be so good (btw adding holster layout/loadout or whatever would be perfect cause some holster positions just look cooler then the other ones and u can rly express yourself and just make your outfits way better looking)
something I always thought would be great is maybe a bandito from Mexico similar to Javier where you fled Mexico leaving your family or something within the first couple of chapters and you come to America heading to san Fransisco in search of gold trying to be a millionaire to pay off your bounty and get your family back or something, OR a Native American basically who got kicked out his tribe and became an outlaw or maybe a lawman him redeeming himself within his tribe and getting them land or something being his arch, or lastly a runaway slave heading northwest for freedom and becomes a lawman because his dad always talked about justice idk lol just ideas I always think about
The problem with the Lawman idea is you cant commit crimes or do shenanigans in freeplay for story reasons until you turn bad. And nobody wants the freeplay to be like Rhodes in Chapter 3
Honestly, another good ass video a lot of the items you listed. I agreed with but I feel like for the story maybe you could follow Lyle Morgan or you could run into them at some point.
One of the biggest crimes of RDR2 was not keeping the Skinner brothers as a Native American tribe. As it stands, they are essentially the Mufree brood 2.0 but they could've been so freaking badass. It fits canocially, as this would have been the tribe that Dutch would've used and manipulated in RDR1. It's stupid that they wanted to be politically correct, because it wasted such a cool opportunity. After all the depressing storylines of the Natives dying off, the last ones going to war, Rains Fall losing his son, etc, it would've been so cool and refreshing to suddenly start seeing them merc people in Tall Trees. You'd even be able to pick up hats and their weapons, and along with some crafted items and clothes, you could've roleplayed as a Native out for revenge! or Justice! or something! screw the politics that deprived us of all these opportunities!
Man you literally read my mind especially with the civil war setting and the law system, idk if this is the right word , but it's implemented in such a goofy way
If we are going to be playing during the civil war era we should play as a cowboy freeing slaves kinda like John brown did in real life it keeps the gang element fits the setting and actually used to happen and you could even have character customization because of how many people did it back then
Some of the things I want from the next Red Dead More challenging Bounty Hunting - I don't want to just be given a location and for the bounty to be there every time. Give me a city/state they were last seen in, and you have to ask around for them and if you find them, and they get away, that shouldn't fail the mission. It should just make it so you have to go around to other towns to see if that's where they escaped too. This would make Bounty Hunting more fun and less repetitive after multiple playthroughs imo. More customization options - A big thing that bothers me about RDR2 is how limited the customization is. You can't wear different styles of gun belts with your holsters in different positions, you can't wear your bandanna with every shirt without that shirt automatically buttoning all the way up, you can't close your coats, you can't open your vests, there aren't many truly unique hairstyles, no jewelry, etc A different story - I don't care to continue the Van Der Linde gang story in any way. I don't want to play as Jack in WW1 because that wouldn't even be a Western game, playing as a young Arthur/Dutch/Hosea wouldn't make any sense because there would be no redemption for them in the end, and playing through the events of the Blackwater heist also wouldn't make sense as there would be no logical epilogue. I'd love to see you play as two Brothers/a Native American tribe/a former slave/a Mexican gang member/a Marshall/a bounty hunter or just something different.
Has nobody considered what Javier was doing between 1899 and 1911? He's a pretty different person between the two games, it would be interesting to see what happened in Mexico between the two games. Also, it would involve Mexico, again, which I think would resonate with the players who missed in in Red Dead 2. They could build off of the story and mechanics they've already made (especially with people like Allende), and they could add a high honor vs low honor fork where, if you play with high honor, you turn out with a better ending while the low honor ending leads to the events of the first game. It may be time to retire the van der Lindes for good, but Javier's story is still open for elaboration, and it would be cool to go back to Mexico and tie off the story of one of the story's more interesting and complex characters.
Hey, Henry! Dumb question to ask, but what are the songs in the backgrounds of these videos? I feel like I’ve heard most of them from Westerns or the Red Dead games. Songs like the 10:10 is an example of that. I know I’ve heard it before, but I don’t remember where. Help a feller out?
could you recommend me some of ur favorite western movies, I know you reference them all the time in your videos but a list to come back to would be nice
A cool idea would be a game that follows the Challendar brothers from rdr2, you could swap between them like in gta5 and there could be two-player coop
Expanding on the Civil War idea, something similar to RDR's fame system, you could help out either the Uniom or Confederacy and then maybe be more known by either side, gaining extra side content or new weapons
As well as expanding slightly on the vest open and closed idea, taking off a satchel if you have one and moving around holsters, a draw like Dutch's or Hosea's. The holster idea is great, even a single offhand holster like Angel-Eyes in TGTBTU
This may not be the best idea for a red dead game but a game focusing on the Underground Railroad around the civil war could tell a pretty interesting story. Probably be called Red Dead Railroad
RDR3- A half remake/reboot of the Red Dead Revolver story playing as Red Harlow. I’ve always thought of Revolver as being loosely connected but this would be a great way to officially connect the storylines. It would obviously be set well before RDR2, completely rebuilt and much expanded Revolver map while connecting to already existing RDR map and a far more flashed out story with some new stuff. Graphics better than RDR2. Yes, it’s not completely original- but would still be bad ass to play as Red Harlow. He’s already mentioned in RDR almost as a legend or campfire tale. It would be wild to play out all the mythical tales of Harlow in a new RDR game.
I really feel like they should remove the Redemption part of the name if R* makes a new western game. It should really be a new cast with a new name(Keep 'Red Dead' but have a diffrent 3rd name like Revolver did) with a new overall theme beside revenge.
i havent watched the video yet but what about a young lawman that has a couple of friends and then they turn in to some sorts of villians and create a small gang and rob much and kill the other sherrifs and then they die of a hanging. And they then redeem themselves when the main character dies so in the epilogue we can find them maybe becoming sheriffs again. And if a side character dies they go and torture him and kill him like colm o'driscoll in chapter 3 (but he didnt kill him) (comment for more ideas into this lawman villian concept!) (if u had a stroke reading this i can change if u just reply) i would also love a feature of emoting like flipping someone off
My hope for a while has been for the series to fully shift to Mexico for a Red Dead Revolución kinda thing, since I loved the parts of the first game that took place south of the border, get that full Mexi-Western vibe with a bandido-revolutionary main character. I definitely think a brother-sister duo would work there too - one's committed to the cause, the other just wants the outlaw life. Could be some pretty cool biomes too - you got your deserts, your gulf-coast jungles, some towns and cities, could have some old Mayan temples, that kinda thing. Like you say, just spit-ballin. With that said, your lawman-vigilante concept really scratches that old-fashioned Spaghetti Western itch and I'm so fuckin down for that. With you 100% on the need to go back to the Golden Age and westward too. We've done that melancholic death-of-a-way-of-life thing for two games and it can't be bettered by something further down the road. Time for the full, old west gunslinger experience.
I want a civil war veteran or bushwhacker who tries to avenge his family of redeem himself of things he did during the war like a Joseph Wales character
Eyo just for reference The bandana works to conceal your identity only if you have no preexisting bounty. If you do got a bounty, I think the idea is that people start recognizing you and youll get Wanted: Arthur Morgan and once you run away, a bigger bounty. If you got no bounty then you can shoot someone in the head run away, wait three minutes a repeat for as long as you want without getting a bounty.
I love all of those ideas of yours, I've thought of a rdr3 story myself at the past and I got some similar ideas compared to yours, it was a lawman story as well, but Y'know what, I love yours more, all of them ideas are real cool. And I really enjoyed that it wasn't another one of those Landon Rickets or Jack or Sadie bullshit cause these are just so repetitive and boring and I swear practically every rdr youtuber has done those loved this video
I like the idea of you playing as a Pinkerton right when they start out so they don’t have the reach they will have eventually. So you can play as a clean cop or a dirty one. The one problem I would see is the redemption part. Maybe he starts as a dirty law man getting more power as a Pinkerton and its up to the player to either get his shit together and be the man that he should be or go full corrupt
Landon Ricketts could be a good option, golden age Wild West and morally gray character, he is often called a lawman but he had a sizeable bounty and interacted in a friendly way with outlaws like Black Belle. Also his role in the blackwater massacre is vague, he could fit in with both the gang and the Pinkertons in the shootout. Also, soloing outlaw forts, dueling gunslingers, and choosing to either be an outlaw or a lawmen or one thing in one state and one in the other.
I think the bandanna problem, heaves itself by the fact that either it is nonsensical or the locals have remembered your outfit if you have been there before and been seen.
I agree with the golden age I want it too but I think rockstar specifically avoided it because of the prominent stuff that was going on during that time. Gotta still get an M rating to sell copies
They should make bounties more of a process. Instead of picking up a poster and just riding out somewhere outside of town, you would ride out and find that they'd left recently, and you have to track them down to their next stop, maybe you catch up to them but they give you the slip, maybe even after you catch them. Maybe you have to ask around to find out where they went. Maybe you encounter other bounty hunters and you could choose to kill them or hinder their progress or even team up and split the bounty. Maybe if you wait to bag a bounty it goes up but the criminal becomes deadlier.
honestly can't play rdr2 without the seasons mods, property mods, and clothing mods. I definitely agree with you about wanting red dead to be way more western, I ended up changing all the npc horses to realistic quarter horses to make it seem more western lol.
I want black powder fire arms and gun powder is a kind of second ammo for them including lead balls and bullets. And you can choose your powder charge for the load.
My take on the whole sequel thing is this; There is no need for a whole new game in the franchise if the current engine and gameplay are up to par, what we actually need is a DLC which uses the already perfect system from the base game and adds upon it, there is no need for a WHOLE new game, that is too much for a van der linde prequel or an aftermath of the first game (Jack storyline) or pretty much every other thing the fanbase wants from a RDR 3, there is nothing that the players wanna see that couldn't be done with just a good DLC, none of us desire even better graphics than what we currently have, a new game from Rockstar is usually a big step forwards from the previous one, they dont stay in one place with their big titles.
I think they should reuse the same map but have the plot and characters centralized around Saint Denis either around the time of Reconstruction or after the turn of century as the law begins to crack down on the Mob. And seeing the Map changed in a major way as the land becomes more modernised would be fitting for the themes. Towns becoming less self-determined and more dependant of the US Government.
I agree that the gang story is complete as is. I still wouldn't mind if I ever got to play as a young Uncle, his youth and his way into this lifestyle as a young man - ah I'd enjoy that
I never thought of having San Francisco but it sounds like a great idea. Also the 1860's setting, so much was happening back then besides the civil war, id love to go south of the border and experience the Mexican Empire, actual vaqueiros or just the western part of America in general. I really hope rdr3 goes this direction.
A map of Mexico and Central America would be amazing, the late 1800s was a volatile time for that region which would make for some exciting high energy missions.
the funny part is that mexico in the 1860s was having a civil war at the same exact time
I would love a Lawman/vigilante game, having it where the "redemption" in the game is when the lawman redeems himself of the corrupted system he is in. I also love the idea of a young man wrapped up in a gang (perhaps the Van Der Linde one) and the "redemption" in that game is him leaving to start a family, and after we play as a young Arthur Morgan for the epilogue. Realistically, we're getting Mac Callander for RDR3, as he was being built as this massive character in Arthur's life and has some of the same story beats that Arthur had.
But Mac died as a bad man according to charles.
Did you finish the game? Its clear that we will probably play as Sadie. I mean for crying out loud the character Mac is only talked about during chapter 1 and 2. Its just exposition bro nothing more.
Or not be a redemption just have it as a new red dead title
@@Itsnothing389 have you seen the cut content my friend? It seems to me as if there's a lot of stuff about him.
@@viruspter1dactl I'm pretty sure the wordage was "angry"
Rdr lawman would be a damn masterpiece. But what I REALLY want is more drip. The lack of Panchos and eyepatches and even things that the gang wore really angered me
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Flipping the other games' west meets east would be neat. You'd start out in a caravan of pioneers from an east coast city bound for California with plans to tame the west, but gradually become more disillusioned with society as the journey progresses further into wild country. Civil War deserter turned bushwhacker would also go hard.
I completely agree that the Van Der Linde Gang story is complete. My favorite Wild West story is the Lincoln County War. I think a cattle baron war would be cool in a landscape like the heartlands and west elizabeth with the option to go into the mountains to be a mountain man. That timing doesn’t align great but that’s my favorite thing to do.
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I love the lawman to vigilante storyline because we get to play as a law man and experience the transition and the vigilante. So fun! ❤
Your lawman idea is cool. Going along with your idea of a lawman who becomes dissuaded with the powers that be, I could see something like "Training Day" but set in the wild west.
I would love to play as a Native American in a large tribe
That would be awesome. I'm totally for that idea
I never really thought about this but I'd absolutely love it
Just play This Land Is My Land then
Play as a Eagle flies type character defending your lands from the imperialists US Army
@@cohengamertv6548 exactly, but I would hate to play as Eagle Flies himself. It would just feel lazy to go back to the same map with returning characters because their story is already finished
Native American or Civil War redemption story would be awesome
Typical white man fantasy, why would u wanna play such a racially charged era.🙄
A lot of people talk about having Landon Ricketts as the protagonist but I think it should be someone who road with him so we don’t know his fate also they i think they should use one of the people on gunslinger cigarettes cards to give some world building
The perfect person to use is Bart love cuz he’s on a card and we know nothing about him
Also have a girlfriend or wife that you can flirt with and sleep with don’t show anything tho I wouldn’t be able to get the game if that happens
Maybe in the high honor ending you leave go have kids and the game end no epilogue or ability to play that might be stupid idk
4:20 is just the description of the outlaw josey wales
Great movie
What you said about seasons was spot on I’ve always thought Roanoke ridge needed an autumn setting as it’s based on Appalachia which has stunning autumns
Sign me up for the Lawmen Story, maybe thats how your honor level could be used in RDR3, possibly if you had low honor you resign from being a sheriff and if you keep high honor you decided to stay a sheriff.
I want a game that takes place somewhere around 1873-77 because that was the peak of the Outlaw Era in the Wild West. That was when Outlaws weren’t just lowdown criminals running from a country, a world, that didn’t want them anymore. They were icons they were as famous as they were feared. Heroes and Villians. We could see the Tatum Brothers and Otis Miller and the 5 Gunslingers from RDR2. You would be an Outlaw trying to reach the level of Otis Miller and Jim ‘Boy’ Calloway.
I feel like it should follow Bart love, because he is the only one of the legendary outlaws who we don’t know anything about.
ngl i would like a california gold miner traveling west with his family and getting raided by bandits or smth with him being the only one left alive going on a revenge mission with a darker story and an aiden pearce type character who doesnt care for himself or anything else until the end.
In RDR2 they talk about a time with the gang was separated for a couple months or years before black water. Arthur and Hosea got separated from Dutch and John, each having their own groups to look after. I believe the next game will be set in this time. Roughly 1897, and you will play as both Mac and Davey Callander
The idea you have for the protaganist inspiring a younger dutch sounds like it has ALOT of potential.
Thank you for mentioning the holsters
I agree with the idea that we need an RDR game that takes place much earlier than the other two. They were both excellent games but there is so much more potential in having a game set in the 1860's, probably near the end of the Civil War. Maybe have the protagonist be a member of an outlaw gang made of Confederate deserters? That way the protagonist would be getting hunted by both the Confederate and Union Armies. Have them move west to get away from both the fighting and have the adventure begin.
I want a game like where you play as a 16-20-year-old kid in Missouri in the civil war or a bit before the civil war 1855-1859. Where you are a former confederate guerrilla during the war you were with a Willam Quantrill or Bloody bill Anderson type character. I think after the war the main character should become a gunfighter. Or start his own gang (like most of the former confederate guerrillas did after the civil war). After like a few chapters he leaves the gunslinger or outlaw life he starts a family until an old gang member/bounty hunters attack his home and hurts his family. Injured and dazed he rides to a town, and he gets patched up and he starts his quest for vengeance. I forgot to mention after the war he moves west so he could have a better start his gunfighting/outlaw career.
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13:37 I totally agree with this. I've had both weed and alcohol and they do not make your vision all blurry and change colors. It's kind of hard to potray the actual feeling you get but I think the Rdr1 way was as close as you can get with all the stumbling around.
Love your videos man, amazing ideas bro 😎
I think jack marston fighting in the mexican revolution to find his redemption is a great idea personaly.
This video did not disappoint! Great ideas to daydream about and hope for🤞
And thanks for asking the community for ideas 👍
The native american storyline from RDR2 was one of the best parts of the game, I wish they would show more of those people’s cultures. I love to find items and points of interest around the map that tap into this side of history. My character in RDOnline was a native american as well and I loved roleplaying as such, stealthing my way into enemy camps with my bow and arrow, bringing out the tomahawk for the brutal kills. It’s awesome.
Dude these are amazing ideas.
Mannnn I gotta be honest, I usually hate videos like this, but seriously, every single idea you listed, I was like “YESSSSS!” 😂
I think an interesting option would be a classic empire building story where we’re an ex-Soldier of the Civil War and we come out west and we try to establish a ranching empire and build up a town in the most lawless territory and have to fight off everyone but if you play like the Duttons of Yellowstone, it all burns down but if you play it like John Wayne, the town defends you
I think haunted locations would be cool I mean we have the haunted battlefield in rdr2. Also let me make time accurate soldier uniforms and give the npcs the ability to comment on your outfit depending on where you're at
Personally, I wouldn't mind another game following the Van Der Linde Gang. I would really like to see a game that takes place during the Civil War though!
Another interesting idea is playing as a freed slave who then becomes an outlaw. This happened often in the old west and is a particularly tragic but also interesting idea for a character imo.
I love the idea of expanding outward west, theres so many ideas in my head for a red dead threes map, a redwood forest area with a town that’s almost a mix of rhoads and Strawberry, a cramped San Fransisco inspired city on the coast, and a county based off the red rocks in Colorado just to name a few. We hear that Sean joined in the game in north Elizabeth, which brings up ideas of a less harsh Ambarino containing a coal mining town in the foot hills. Another cool idea is a new region of the Grizzles, as micha joined in a bar in the grizzles, maybe there could be a tavern on the road for travelers? Not a full on settlement but just a few houses and a large bar and inn. I also think the idea of a man coming out to Thives Landing would be an awesome idea, joining the law force there imagining life on the west as your stereotypical good guys vs bad guys narrative, only to realize that the police were pains off, hence the name thieves landing, and that live in the west is truly a lot more morally grey than it seems. And when his family dies of cholera, he hangs up his badge and begins traveling the country, trying to bring overs the dream life on the prairie he never had, possibly inspiring a young Dutch. Or, in the case of a low honor route, he gives up on life, and does the bidding of a corrupt lawman, roaming the frontier doing dirty business with gangs and locking people away for not paying things like protection.
My dude I wanna thank you so much for this video because it restored my faith in human ideas and creativity.
Since years I read only the things you mentioned at the start, Sadie, blackwater, origin story, Callander brothers and was only thinking: how goddamn lame is that.
You got me already in the first minute of the video, natives, civil war, Sergio Leone, game is set much further in the past, yes, it's a western!
Enough of van der linde, maybe just a few random references around the open world and nothing more.
Good video I really liked these points and ideas
A map based on the west coast extending from San Fran in the south, Portland to the north. The western border would be the pacific and the eastern border would be the rocky mountians. The time period would be around 1880-1890.
These areas have a very rich history that is filled with its own folklore and legends. The main storyline could incorporate some of this folklore (like Bigfoot, ufos around mt Shasta, cursed Indian burial grounds, buried treasures) and the story of the protagonist could have run its with Trelawny, and a young Micah Bell and his father. It’s known that Micah lived in the Bay Area and Trelawny would travel to oregon for business.
We could completely leave behind the Van Der Lin gang for the main story but simultaneously get insight into how Micah became the bastard we all loathe.
This is the game I want to play.
3:50 this story ballad of buster scruggs actually made me so sad
I think being able to climb trees is a really bad idea, I feel like it would not fit in at all with how movement works in RDR and RDR2. But the ability the go prone/supine would 100% fit in (if only in hunting/sniping)
I'd like to play as one of the Crow. By far, the most hated tribe by their fellow natives yet curiously honorable in that they faced their enemies 1v1 without exception. It was rough enough for any Native, but to be a native hated by your own kind would be a whole 'nother degree of rough.
14:35 if the game is actually set in the 1860s and early 70s, i hope rockstars makes actually good clothing options for online characters this time, if they don’t add flowy ponchos, belts that actually fit, shawls, bonnets and crinolines/bustles (and the option to get them off whenever we need to) i’m gonna be so disappointed but not surprised
I absolutely love the lawman/vigilante story idea and how awesome that story could be, an idea i had for that story I had was maybe every person you hunt down you can either kill them or bring them in and watch them get hanged, and the title i thought of is pretty sick ( Red dead revenge ) Great video as always
I think RDR3 could still be about the Van Der Linde gang. I would enjoy a game about the dude arthur talks about when playing Dominoes with Tilly. He talks about a "traitor" that Dutch killed in the camp. Maybe this character could've had some sort of redemption like Arthur did. Maybe he saved an enemy of the Van Der Linde gang that he had a secret relationship with or something. And it would be before red dead redemption 2 which would link up with how the games go back in the timeline. And we don't know anything about him other than he is an unnamed "traitor", which isn't a big spoiler for the game
dude, that story is over. let it go
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Setting the game in the actual Wild West not the end of the Wild West would be so good (btw adding holster layout/loadout or whatever would be perfect cause some holster positions just look cooler then the other ones and u can rly express yourself and just make your outfits way better looking)
I think It should revolve around 1855 1870. Arthurs Father and mother and young Arthur meeting the Gang Dutch and Hosea.
Yeeees! I'd love that, bonus if after the main game you could continue to play as Arthur, just like you could with John in rdr2
this was the sole channel that gave me the inspiration to platinum red dead 2 and same day you post this I complete it 🎉 thank u henryfilms👍
i love the idea of an earlier setting with more native americans
5:02 i would LOVE a game set in the golden age of the west with the gameplay style of LA Noire honestly
i nice setting would be a story about a biker gang set in the time period just after world war 2
A lot of these ideas kinda sound fire
The player could also be the killer of Lyle Morgan
something I always thought would be great is maybe a bandito from Mexico similar to Javier where you fled Mexico leaving your family or something within the first couple of chapters and you come to America heading to san Fransisco in search of gold trying to be a millionaire to pay off your bounty and get your family back or something, OR a Native American basically who got kicked out his tribe and became an outlaw or maybe a lawman him redeeming himself within his tribe and getting them land or something being his arch, or lastly a runaway slave heading northwest for freedom and becomes a lawman because his dad always talked about justice idk lol just ideas I always think about
keep up the good work Henry
I see you're as insane about red dead 2 as I am
The problem with the Lawman idea is you cant commit crimes or do shenanigans in freeplay for story reasons until you turn bad. And nobody wants the freeplay to be like Rhodes in Chapter 3
Hell ,Tornadoes, hurricane, and earthquake.. maybe even a volcano eruption would be dope
Honestly, another good ass video a lot of the items you listed. I agreed with but I feel like for the story maybe you could follow Lyle Morgan or you could run into them at some point.
One of the biggest crimes of RDR2 was not keeping the Skinner brothers as a Native American tribe. As it stands, they are essentially the Mufree brood 2.0 but they could've been so freaking badass. It fits canocially, as this would have been the tribe that Dutch would've used and manipulated in RDR1. It's stupid that they wanted to be politically correct, because it wasted such a cool opportunity. After all the depressing storylines of the Natives dying off, the last ones going to war, Rains Fall losing his son, etc, it would've been so cool and refreshing to suddenly start seeing them merc people in Tall Trees. You'd even be able to pick up hats and their weapons, and along with some crafted items and clothes, you could've roleplayed as a Native out for revenge! or Justice! or something! screw the politics that deprived us of all these opportunities!
I think it would be cool they added muskets and flintlocks
Man you literally read my mind especially with the civil war setting and the law system, idk if this is the right word , but it's implemented in such a goofy way
If we are going to be playing during the civil war era we should play as a cowboy freeing slaves kinda like John brown did in real life it keeps the gang element fits the setting and actually used to happen and you could even have character customization because of how many people did it back then
It would be cool to see a early van horn
Some of the things I want from the next Red Dead
More challenging Bounty Hunting -
I don't want to just be given a location and for the bounty to be there every time. Give me a city/state they were last seen in, and you have to ask around for them and if you find them, and they get away, that shouldn't fail the mission. It should just make it so you have to go around to other towns to see if that's where they escaped too. This would make Bounty Hunting more fun and less repetitive after multiple playthroughs imo.
More customization options -
A big thing that bothers me about RDR2 is how limited the customization is. You can't wear different styles of gun belts with your holsters in different positions, you can't wear your bandanna with every shirt without that shirt automatically buttoning all the way up, you can't close your coats, you can't open your vests, there aren't many truly unique hairstyles, no jewelry, etc
A different story -
I don't care to continue the Van Der Linde gang story in any way. I don't want to play as Jack in WW1 because that wouldn't even be a Western game, playing as a young Arthur/Dutch/Hosea wouldn't make any sense because there would be no redemption for them in the end, and playing through the events of the Blackwater heist also wouldn't make sense as there would be no logical epilogue. I'd love to see you play as two Brothers/a Native American tribe/a former slave/a Mexican gang member/a Marshall/a bounty hunter or just something different.
This channel is too underrated man
Has nobody considered what Javier was doing between 1899 and 1911? He's a pretty different person between the two games, it would be interesting to see what happened in Mexico between the two games. Also, it would involve Mexico, again, which I think would resonate with the players who missed in in Red Dead 2. They could build off of the story and mechanics they've already made (especially with people like Allende), and they could add a high honor vs low honor fork where, if you play with high honor, you turn out with a better ending while the low honor ending leads to the events of the first game. It may be time to retire the van der Lindes for good, but Javier's story is still open for elaboration, and it would be cool to go back to Mexico and tie off the story of one of the story's more interesting and complex characters.
Hey, Henry! Dumb question to ask, but what are the songs in the backgrounds of these videos? I feel like I’ve heard most of them from Westerns or the Red Dead games. Songs like the 10:10 is an example of that. I know I’ve heard it before, but I don’t remember where. Help a feller out?
I would love for them to start fresh but maybe have characters from the other Red Dead games appear in side quests
could you recommend me some of ur favorite western movies, I know you reference them all the time in your videos but a list to come back to would be nice
A cool idea would be a game that follows the Challendar brothers from rdr2, you could swap between them like in gta5 and there could be two-player coop
Expanding on the Civil War idea, something similar to RDR's fame system, you could help out either the Uniom or Confederacy and then maybe be more known by either side, gaining extra side content or new weapons
As well as expanding slightly on the vest open and closed idea, taking off a satchel if you have one and moving around holsters, a draw like Dutch's or Hosea's. The holster idea is great, even a single offhand holster like Angel-Eyes in TGTBTU
This may not be the best idea for a red dead game but a game focusing on the Underground Railroad around the civil war could tell a pretty interesting story. Probably be called Red Dead Railroad
RDR3- A half remake/reboot of the Red Dead Revolver story playing as Red Harlow. I’ve always thought of Revolver as being loosely connected but this would be a great way to officially connect the storylines. It would obviously be set well before RDR2, completely rebuilt and much expanded Revolver map while connecting to already existing RDR map and a far more flashed out story with some new stuff. Graphics better than RDR2.
Yes, it’s not completely original- but would still be bad ass to play as Red Harlow. He’s already mentioned in RDR almost as a legend or campfire tale. It would be wild to play out all the mythical tales of Harlow in a new RDR game.
Rockstar needs to watch this and take notes this sounds amazing
Well done once again, @ Henry Films. All of these suggestions have potential for Red Dead Redemption III.
I really feel like they should remove the Redemption part of the name if R* makes a new western game.
It should really be a new cast with a new name(Keep 'Red Dead' but have a diffrent 3rd name like Revolver did) with a new overall theme beside revenge.
i havent watched the video yet but what about a young lawman that has a couple of friends and then they turn in to some sorts of villians and create a small gang and rob much and kill the other sherrifs and then they die of a hanging. And they then redeem themselves when the main character dies so in the epilogue we can find them maybe becoming sheriffs again. And if a side character dies they go and torture him and kill him like colm o'driscoll in chapter 3 (but he didnt kill him)
(comment for more ideas into this lawman villian concept!)
(if u had a stroke reading this i can change if u just reply)
i would also love a feature of emoting like flipping someone off
Tom Horn was a range detective turned assassin for hire. That would be a great inspiration for RDR3
My hope for a while has been for the series to fully shift to Mexico for a Red Dead Revolución kinda thing, since I loved the parts of the first game that took place south of the border, get that full Mexi-Western vibe with a bandido-revolutionary main character. I definitely think a brother-sister duo would work there too - one's committed to the cause, the other just wants the outlaw life. Could be some pretty cool biomes too - you got your deserts, your gulf-coast jungles, some towns and cities, could have some old Mayan temples, that kinda thing. Like you say, just spit-ballin.
With that said, your lawman-vigilante concept really scratches that old-fashioned Spaghetti Western itch and I'm so fuckin down for that. With you 100% on the need to go back to the Golden Age and westward too. We've done that melancholic death-of-a-way-of-life thing for two games and it can't be bettered by something further down the road. Time for the full, old west gunslinger experience.
The rdr3 main character should be Uncle "the one shot kid" and it would end with him getting a lumbago
I want a civil war veteran or bushwhacker who tries to avenge his family of redeem himself of things he did during the war like a Joseph Wales character
Eyo just for reference
The bandana works to conceal your identity only if you have no preexisting bounty. If you do got a bounty, I think the idea is that people start recognizing you and youll get Wanted: Arthur Morgan and once you run away, a bigger bounty. If you got no bounty then you can shoot someone in the head run away, wait three minutes a repeat for as long as you want without getting a bounty.
I love all of those ideas of yours, I've thought of a rdr3 story myself at the past and I got some similar ideas compared to yours, it was a lawman story as well, but Y'know what, I love yours more, all of them ideas are real cool. And I really enjoyed that it wasn't another one of those Landon Rickets or Jack or Sadie bullshit cause these are just so repetitive and boring and I swear practically every rdr youtuber has done those loved this video
Literally agree with every single part of the video
(Also let me save more than 4 outfits!!!)
I like the idea of you playing as a Pinkerton right when they start out so they don’t have the reach they will have eventually. So you can play as a clean cop or a dirty one. The one problem I would see is the redemption part. Maybe he starts as a dirty law man getting more power as a Pinkerton and its up to the player to either get his shit together and be the man that he should be or go full corrupt
I hope rockstar sees this all u want I want too
great video as always!
Landon Ricketts could be a good option, golden age Wild West and morally gray character, he is often called a lawman but he had a sizeable bounty and interacted in a friendly way with outlaws like Black Belle. Also his role in the blackwater massacre is vague, he could fit in with both the gang and the Pinkertons in the shootout. Also, soloing outlaw forts, dueling gunslingers, and choosing to either be an outlaw or a lawmen or one thing in one state and one in the other.
I like all of your ideas👍. But I never had any problems the wanted system and getting the bandana to work🤷♂️
I think the bandanna problem, heaves itself by the fact that either it is nonsensical or the locals have remembered your outfit if you have been there before and been seen.
I agree with the golden age I want it too but I think rockstar specifically avoided it because of the prominent stuff that was going on during that time. Gotta still get an M rating to sell copies
They should make bounties more of a process. Instead of picking up a poster and just riding out somewhere outside of town, you would ride out and find that they'd left recently, and you have to track them down to their next stop, maybe you catch up to them but they give you the slip, maybe even after you catch them. Maybe you have to ask around to find out where they went. Maybe you encounter other bounty hunters and you could choose to kill them or hinder their progress or even team up and split the bounty. Maybe if you wait to bag a bounty it goes up but the criminal becomes deadlier.
there should be a mechanic where you can bring characters from the story or stranger missions as a companion. kind of like fallout
honestly can't play rdr2 without the seasons mods, property mods, and clothing mods. I definitely agree with you about wanting red dead to be way more western, I ended up changing all the npc horses to realistic quarter horses to make it seem more western lol.
I want black powder fire arms and gun powder is a kind of second ammo for them including lead balls and bullets. And you can choose your powder charge for the load.
My take on the whole sequel thing is this;
There is no need for a whole new game in the franchise if the current engine and gameplay are up to par, what we actually need is a DLC which uses the already perfect system from the base game and adds upon it, there is no need for a WHOLE new game, that is too much for a van der linde prequel or an aftermath of the first game (Jack storyline) or pretty much every other thing the fanbase wants from a RDR 3, there is nothing that the players wanna see that couldn't be done with just a good DLC, none of us desire even better graphics than what we currently have, a new game from Rockstar is usually a big step forwards from the previous one, they dont stay in one place with their big titles.
I think they should reuse the same map but have the plot and characters centralized around Saint Denis either around the time of Reconstruction or after the turn of century as the law begins to crack down on the Mob. And seeing the Map changed in a major way as the land becomes more modernised would be fitting for the themes. Towns becoming less self-determined and more dependant of the US Government.
I wonder if we would get bully 2 or a new ip before rdr3 or we’d just have gta and rdr forever
Would be interesting if the player could play two different characters that parallel each other, maybe it changed from a chapter to chapter basis.
I agree that the gang story is complete as is. I still wouldn't mind if I ever got to play as a young Uncle, his youth and his way into this lifestyle as a young man - ah I'd enjoy that