The Red Dead Redemption Cut Content Iceberg Explained
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Today, I am going to dissect the red dead redemption cut content iceberg.
This is just my opinion, so put yours in the comments and let's debate! 
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Imagine Arthur telling Dutch "I gave you all I had" with tears in his eyes as he's dying... in a pirate outfit.
I legit thing that was the main reason, that and all important cutscenes.
There might be issues with clipping
Ah, Arthur. You’re shivering me timbers. 😅
@@nrgao😂
They could've done this all still, but they left everything for GTA Online.
Yeah GTA online is a money maker
Rockstar very much need their money
@@RedDeadTierLists They better not cut half of GTA 6.
yup
@@cijayfisch they didnt cut half of anything lmao
Drinking with Sean, Uncle and Swanson would’ve been funny
bruh compaired saint denis to new york, its new orleans
Both are shit, there is no difference
He was saying that the name New Bourdoux was too much like new york, that's why he agreed that it was better to be changed to Saint Denis
I remember when people found the safe houses when RDR2 first came out the theory was that it was going to be a feature for online too but it never happened
Yeah I've got no idea why there's no safehosues in online
I feel like the “foreman” cut content could have been Anthony Foreman’s gang and maybe Tilly could have had a story arc there.
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One thing about rockstar i hate is how they abandon their games after release they did that with gta 5 and rdr2 and im pretty sure gta4 too
Yup we never got out dlc they focused on online and then dropped it
gta 4 got the ballad of gay tony and the lost and damned dlcs
they released 2 DLCs for GTA IV
They don't, they just keep releasing stuff for the online because is always all about what gives them more money. RIP Rdr2 online tho lol.
5 has an online mode that has been updated consistently, as does 2 but it hasn't been updated in awhile besides a recent patch, 4 also had 2 dlcs. So that isn't abandoning anything.
From the way Arthur speaks about Eliza, it doesn't seem like he was in love with her like he was with Mary. She was a fling who fell pregnant.
Yeah that's fair because he was visiting to be in his son's life. He never asked her to come with him, he wanted Mary to be with him and she didn't want the outlaw life.
21:53 "Saint Denis is more of a creative name" Yeah unless you're french, and you know all too well that Saint Denis is not only a real place but basically french Detroit
there are atleast 2 different cities named saint denis in the world one off the east coast of madagascar on an island and one or more in usa
bro is always happy they didnt waste development time
even tho it woulda been cool of course
I'd much rather have the game we got then something that got pushed back even further. I know adding all these things would've probably made the game better but the game is good enough on its own and only a couple of things (John's body + Some of the New Austin stuff) really would've made the game a lot better if it was finished.
@@RedDeadTierLists im just saying you said the same thing after most entries
Rockstar has ENOUGH money. Wish they’d leave GTA online alone for a while to add some cool shit to single player stuff. Imagine riding out into town with uncle or Lenny and getting drunk and getting into fights at the bar? Would’ve been a dream
In a world where companies only care about their stock prices, there never is enough money. It's also kinda crazy how little money a company like Rockstar makes vs other game companies.
Rockstar has to be the biggest money maker out there..
Dude. Two separate studios work on red dead redemption two and GTA online. I’m tired of seeing this take on every cut contact video. In game development a lot of stuff gets cut out due to time constraints or file size bloat or just new ideas. To imply that all of this was going to be great Content that was cut out because the evil executives wanted more money to go to GTA online is ridiculous.
@@JesusChristTheHoly “ Grrr leave my multi billion dollar business alone >:( “
@@metalm6455 you know other games exist right?
I remember when Rdr2 came out and people were finding all of the alien Easter eggs the big dlc people wanted was either a cowboys vs ailen dlc or undead nightmare 2
Maybe sherrif owens was supposed to replace sherrif gray after he dies
Nice thinking. If so, I wonder why they never bothered using him then.
I heard Owens was meant to be the sheriff of Van Horn, before it got turned into a lawless, ruined dump.
im a nerd for this, but im pleased as someone studying archaeology that the neanderthal was cut-they weren’t even in the americas!
It's a video game buddy.
@@FIB-EDITShe literally started with "I'm a nerd for this". Also, we know it's a game. We are all fine with the supernatural stuff. But part of why we all love red dead is the realism. I don't understand the negativity
@@FIB-EDITStypical FIB agent
You can tell there was a lot of stuff removed from the game or just never fully developed bc they wanted to get it out on time. Like with all those things that Arthur sketches in his notebook... the strange trees, the hobbit house, the burned out town. Even the witch's hut. There must have been some story connected to those places. My theory is that there was supposed to have been some more side missions, but they spent so much time developing the world, when it came time to develop the missions etc. it was already too late.
It wouldve been great if Rockstar had released some of this cut content as DLC but instead they gave up on this game altogether.
The trees are made by native Americans to point out landmarks normally water sources. It’s just apart of the world building.
I always inferred what happened to the Princess was she was sold as a slave from the Fence in Saint Denis. He has a chest with her initials and he is know to sell people.
Fence in Van Horn, not Saint Denis.
@@MatthewG1247 the Fence in that sells slaves behind his bookcases is in Saint Denis if I’m not mistaken.
@@cosmonauthal7651 The Van Horn Fence has the Chest with IKZ on it.
@@MatthewG1247 ohhhh then maybe those two were suppose to be connected or maybe I’m just dull lol
This is just me but a RDR 2 Deluxe Edition with most cut content for PS5/Xbox Series S & X would sell alot a copies and make Rockstar a bunch more money
I mean I think they could do this with using modders, but it doesn't really make sense for Rockstar themselves to develop a cut content version, because they have more important things to focus on (GTA 6). Rockstar kinda hates using other people to make their stuff tho.
Might as well release rdr3 instead
@@Yes-Bean and what would the story be then? The Vanderlinde gang story has already been told, and there's not really much (if anything) left to tell.
@@HypeXtra maybe a spinoff with jack in ww1 or how the gang was formed and when dutch an colm used to work together
@@HypeXtracivil war era game😎
If you have the RDR2 strategy guide; you can see several photos of Arthur in New Austin as well as Arthur wearing the Legend of the East outfit. This is likely because Piggyback was working in tandem with R* to write the guide and was given an advanced copy of the game where Arthur did have access to New Austin; or at least everywhere but Blackwater.
That's unfair, why could he go to NA but not us?
I think the biggest letdown was guarma, would’ve been cool, the cut outfit, quest and just the atmosphere is just so fascinating
Love all the content you’ve been putting out. Just makes you wonder how much more content there’d be if they released a year later
this guy is the whole ass Rockstar PR team the way he says we didn't need all this cut content
Wait, how is there no mention of Mac Callander in this? He was a cut character part of the gang. He had something to do with blackwater. Arthur's jacket is actually his jacket. I really hope they save all that Mac Callander stuff for RDR 3.
1:02:07 i just LOVE it how emotional and fast speaking you got when mentioning the horses' balls
clearly bros favorite content
30:07 Arthur getting blasted while trying to do the cool guys don't look at explosions walk. 😂
Also did the same thing when I was blowing up a pile of dead O'driscolls
😂
There's so much they've cut. I could've loved that Charles mission for example. Also taking Molly to that Golden Cage mission.
See now, that one about geldings being in the game, and the one about papers for horses? As a horse person, that they didn't include it makes me sad. Imagine the fun that could be had with something like a Stranger Mission where, if you're riding a stallion, it scents a mare in heat, throws you, and you need to go track down your horse, where you meet someone with a quest for you? Or, conversely, if you're riding a mare, the stranger has a stallion that runs up on you, and your mare throws you, so then you have to go track them both down. Maybe bonus foal content to be had later in the story - would fit well for a foal to show up right when Kieran joins the gang, given he knows his way around horses. Meanwhile, if you were riding a gelding, you'd miss all that fun, because well, geldings are nice and uncomplicated to deal with, no hormones governing their behavior the way they do for mares and stallions.
Nice video i can tell your gonna get big i always love yout videos
I appreciate that!
Mexico (and everything south of Strawberry) was added super late in development. Some of the earliest Maps that were leaked and found within the game files all show that everything tied to RDR1 wasn't part of the overall explorable map until very late in development. Which is why there is some evidence of Arthur being able to go to places like New Austin but it was scrapped due to typical time restraints. There's a channel called BasementGamerBros that show off all the different versions of the map and what time during development those maps existed. They have a number of really good analysis' of various cut stuff from the game.
Also, I'm almost certain that Eliza was two different characters at some point but people keep conflating them together because they have the same name. Let me explain, the Eliza with missions was the niece of the Guarma Ship Captain, the one that takes you Dutch and co back home. You didn't meet her until that portion of the game and it's the reason why John doesn't meet her until the epilogue because he was locked up when she was around the gang and if she was there from the beginning then there is certain no reason for John to never have known about her until the epilogue(this also coincides with being able to revisit Guarma as well). Then, she was scrapped and rewritten into the Sadie character(they both share the same characteristic of getting herself into danger so it makes sense to keep that trait) Then, They took the name Eliza and made her Issac's mom, then once again decided to cut her down to a passing mention by Arthur.
This just my way of thinking as a ton of people seem confused about who or what she was when they were making the game, but to me, it makes more sense that they just played musical chairs with the character and name so she was never just one person at any point and time.
The early maps that were leaked ended up being one half of the physical map with all old map stuff being on the back of that map. It's not that all the old map stuff didn't exist, it's just that the actual map was broken into two pieces and only the east half leaked
really would have liked to have seen the online only weapons as well as the cut weapons in this video in red dead redemption 2 story mode. I would have loved to have a muzzle loading blunderbus, or a cap and ball navy revolver.
I think safe houses could’ve been a way to generate money for the gang and Arthur. Iirc, before the gang had to leave blackwater Hosea and Arthur were discussing potential real estate to make money for the gang. Like Arthur can choose to stay there but when he doesn’t use it, it generates a profit
1:00:53 Alberto Fussars wife. Levi Simon was his overseer
Yeah, I mixed their names together, you are right.
@@RedDeadTierLists no Levi Simon was definitely his lover
It also wouldn’t have made sense for them to have Mexico because John says he has never been to Mexico in the first red dead
He also says he’s never been to NA yet has to go there to complete quests and a couple of side missions
Yeah, John says hes never been to Armadillo, or New Austin or MacFarlanes ranch. But in RDR 2 thats obviously not the case.
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I think the opposite is true, leaked early maps don’t have anything West of Blackwater in various variations, causing backlash, so c.2017 time they rushed to add as much of the RDR1 map in.
This caused the toxic infamous developer crunch headlines, so they had to tone it down.
Edit: Finished watching the video. Been in the community for years and thought I heard and seen it all and this iceberg video delightfully proved me wrong. Class video.
Good video but damn, slow the hell down
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Great video! ❤ I can’t wait for Cut content for GTA 6
10 hour video incoming in 2028
It makes sense for there to not be a ferry to guarma in the epilogue. There's no reason why John would want to go there especially since everyone that was there talks about how bad it was
Well yeah, there was supposed to be a ton of other stuff that was there, especially like treasure hunting type things, so if that was all there it could make sense, but in it's final state Guarma sucked.
@@RedDeadTierLists yeah but i guess that's the way it is.
@@Yes-BeanI see what you did there
@@IMNTV 😁
Now imagine all of the cut content thats gona happen for gta6
say "i don't know" one more time
The sheer mention of herbalist 9 makes me laugh hysterically. What a torture
The Neanderthal is really a strange one since that group of primal people were mostly living in ancient Eurasia, not North America. Would've been really cool to find this guy frozen in ice, or just living his life in the wilderness.
GREAT character design! (thumbnail)
I love the background music ngl
I kinda feel like John was suppose to chaise down micah in mexico
No he wasn’t, that would make zero sense to rdr1 at all
After 5 years I find out why my confusion arrows dont work , cool video man , thanks
After the Guarma (?) chapter I think it would make perfect sense for Arthur to have his own hideout.
rockstar has cancelled so much things.
cant believe we had 3 DLCS cut from gta 5 story mode.
1. this was gonna be a gta 5 story mode DLC and it was gonna be undead nightmare style and it was gonna drop somewhere between halloween 2014 or halloween 2015 where u fight zombies and have to survive but the mode was cut mid development due to some financing issues i think.
2. the second gta 5 DLC was gonna be about Lamar. kinda like gta san andreas. it was gonna be set after gta 5 story mode and u play as lamar and his dealings and gang life. but that was cut. plus lamar was also gonna be a full playable character in storymode but that was cut bc his voice actor went to prison and they couldnt really schedule a release date for the DLC so they just cut it mid production
3. another gta 5 DLC. this was gonna be about trevor. he was gonna be recruited by some CIA secret agency into doing missions for them but i think these missions were put into online.
4. Bully 2. This game was i think cancelled somewhere in 2017. It was in production and development but rockstar just abandoned it and stopped production so that they could make RDR2 into the best.
5. I think we were supposed to get a GTA 4 remastered/port to ps4 somewhere in 2016-2018 but the port had issues before release so rockstar cancelled that too.
But for RDR2, guarma couldve been so much more. the cut content was crazy.
I think that sheriff Owens was supposed to be the sheriff in Van Horn. He was probably scratched when the devs decided for Van Horn to just be a pit of lawlessness and villainy
Van Horn is the Thieves Landing for RDR2, I guess.
@@missmacfarlane1884isn’t thieves landing in rdr2?
@saulgoodman4036 yes, not too much to do there though
oy the bit about john marston beta if your interested in that a new mod came out called jmre it fixes john being arthur copypasted pretty well with one mod and they are even doing neat things like making him have his own hair at the barber with growth and everything it even now has his rdr1 hair as a option
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Watching the horses balls shrink in cold weather is one of your favorite parts in Rdr 2 says a lot about you 😂
Leon's niece ped wasn't abandoned they used her as one of the bath girls i believe its variant 4, although Leon's niece outfit was given to Mary Linton its the fit where she has like grey skirt with orange cloack (?)
Grace Lancing was the main protagonist, she freed us from prison in RDO. She wasn't a bad guy at all.
Nope. That was Jessica LeClerk. Her husband was killed by Grace Lancings husband. She frees us just to take revenge of the people who killed Jessica's husband. We have never met Grace Lancing. Still waiting for that last The Land of Opportunities mission in RDO.
i don't know whether this is true or not but one of the cut contemts suggested Arthur being able to dive and Swim Underwater and it was due to players being able to collect some plants underwater
There is also John's actual epilogue look. You know they cut alot of things for Epilogue John from his animations, clothes, body, etc.
27:07 The OG’s remember playing poker with Herbert Moon in RDR1
I've always tried to kill him.
The Saint Denis comment about it only being a “little bit French” made me lol… where do you think Saint Denis IRL name inspo is from?
46:15 although this video is a month old i watched it today and when I was listening to this part I thought that maybe it could have been a thing where Arthur/John would have found her and realized she was doing some shady business with the cover of being missing or something?
I can't even at the gelding portion. Just what the fuck. 😂
You know its a good day when red dead tier lists uploads
I wish they would take all these things that were nearly finished, finish them and offer them as dlc to play even if they don't fit into the story.
19:10 If the reason was them not wanting to take away from discovering Saint Denis in Chapter 4, then imho they shoulda used a Broken Bridges world, like in classic GTA and RDR1. Becuase as is, you can easily discover Saint Denis the moment the open world gets going.
30:10 It might have been a mob demanding Micah to be hanged immediately.
There is a mod for Mexico it’s called neuvo paraiso
Yeah that's what I was referencing. It's not fully finished tho I believe.
In red dead 1, the shopkeepers could walk around town when their stores were closed. You could play poker with herbert moon. I got caught cheating and had to duel him.
The John thing isn’t true, rockstar made him look like Arthur for no reason. In the files a beta model, animations and clothes as well as cutscenes were found that were meant for John but ultimately cut and replaced with Arthur’s assets. John’s real cut assets were modded in by modders and it shows they work completely fine with no issues whatsoever. Also replacing models doesn’t affect cutscenes as proven by those modded videos where people replace John or Arthur with Sadie or Abigail. John looks the way he does for no reason at all
@@realrobrose Did you just read what I said? They literally have animations that were for John that they cut. Also again mods prove changing a character model doesn’t affect the game or cutscenes. You’re trying to make sense of something that’s already been proven false lol. Modders have literally re added those cut assets and model and they work completely fine with the game. They did it for no reason
Yea better delete your idiotic comment
Yea better delete your stupid comment
They put the baby bear in online! Was playing wildlife photographer and two baby bears was the reason I won.
Mexico could've been added for Online
I don't think that explore Mexico area was planned, devs just copied from prequel along with New Austin area, so they just needed to polishing New Austin area for sequel.
Mexico area is just leftover of that copy and paste - I think that's the reason why some objects are placed weirdly.
Then why is there cut dialogue of Jeremy Gill asking Arthur to go fishing at Frontera Bridge? This is from the dialogue of Arthur in New Austin before they changed it. We even have the cutscene.
@@nicklibby3784 That's another story, mate. Yea, Rockstar initially planned to explore New Austin as Arthur but eventually idea had scrapped.
Still, New Austin can explore as John without exploit or Mods.
But Mexico is not intended to exprole in RDR2, that's the difference.
I miss the cut missions man
I doubt rockstar cares about people killing fat NPCs 😂
I wish they gave us the land & homestead update they talked about we will forever have ants near our cracks lol
57:40 this may not be the reason since there are baby cayotes in the game
The problem is that they think having no content matters, i would of gone to guarma even if theres no missions. Look at the state of online, no content but we still play it, RDR players make their own fun because we like exploring the beautiful game. I switched to PC just to play with mods and play RedM servers, i will never stop playing this game, i just wish rockstar didnt give up on it
Saint-Denis is a actual place in france
In the game where you can literally mame people and animals with dynamite, molotovs, explosive arrows, shotguns, knives, run them over with horses and crush them under wagon wheels, but obese people is where Rockstar draws the line?
No.
The possible reason why obese npcs were cut, was probably due to animation and collision.
All regular npcs share the same rig and animations, but with obese npcs they probably had to make a separate rig and animations for them, which meant they had to make sure objects don't clip into them, new horse/wagon riding animation, shooting, taking cover and fist fighting animation, not to mention all of the work the devs had to do with how obese npcs would interact with world around them and whatnot.
So the most likely reason Rockstar cut obese npcs was probably due to time or development issues. not offending people.
If the princess can be thrown into the cell you'd probably find her living amongst whatever criminals stole her. Starlord style.
Is the sick ass leather jacket on the thumbnail cut content?
Sadly not, I wish tho.
@@RedDeadTierListsrockstar has no idea how much money they’d make if they just dropped a leather jacket in online, they always dropping the ball now it seems
"I don't know"
I wished the Easter egg horses would of come back from RDRUN the four horses of the apocalypse AND the rainbow horse were cool/funny as hell
33:52 maybe they could have been used to make throwing knives or arrows that give the disoriented status
Yeah that's what it is. My bad if I explained it badly.
Crazy how the best game ever could've had even more stuff.
Overall good video honestly, but for future reference you kind of repeat the same nothing statement after everything. “You know like, it would have been cool but you know it’s like fine it isn’t. I would have liked it but I’m fine it’s not there.”
I just feel like the video could be smoother and way less repetitive without it. I do like the video, don’t get me wrong. Just trying to help you grow if I can!
In the first game you could find shopkeepers outside their shops, i like to steal money from Herbert moon in poker, or shoot him in a duel.
Stuff like Bobcats, horses peeing, and new minigames could've been added in an update.
Red dead redemption video but with Pokémon music😦
It's a bit annoying.
id trade the braithwaits questline for this anyday
I think Sheriff Owen’s was supposed to be the van horn sheriff
I really wish they had taken more time to develop things, the game is a already a masterpiece but think of what could have been
Sheriff Owens was for van horn
The cut Micah mission looks so fun why did they have to remove it 😭
I don't like how no matter the size of your boat. In red dead redemption 2. The minute you go 5 feet away from the shore, the boat sinks.
@chandllerburse737 whatever...
But you van literally canoe all the way from braithwaithe manor or saint denis to thieves landing in a straight line. Which is extremely far away from shore. Like the same distance from shore as the whole heartlands desert area from top to bottom.
You didn't need half-the stuff that dropped with rdr2 but they did its more amazing for it. It really seems like Rockstar glazing with how you wrote everything cut when the wholw reason rdr2 is so successful is because of all the details
Molly never talk to the Pinkertons Milton said so, they let her go she was just drunk.
Yeah I said that kinda.
Rdr2 was a test gta 6 is what they’re really focused on after rdr2
The reason why Saint Denis had a name change was due to mafia 3.
Haven’t clicked on a video as fast as I clicked on this one, in a while.
All for gta online to be mid (im level 436 with 2 other accounts being 50s-80s)
- its been awhile so i don’t remember my ranks on my side accounts
most of the topics you mentioned, like Leon's niece, have photos and videos on reddit or GTA forums, the video would be much better if you showed each topic with a photo or video, just constructive criticism
I really wish they didn't cut Arthur's other love interest because I'm not a fan of Mary Linton tbh
This a reupload? Feel like I've seen it before
Nope and I don't believe any one else has done a cut content iceberg. Saw the list on reddit tho. I made a red dead mysteries iceberg, so you could be confusing it with that.
I know one person that did something like this in 2018 when the game first came out
I hate rockstar for abandoning new austin and mexico, my favourite area 😭
I wish rockstar can give us a RDR 2 PS5 edition with cut content instead of GTA 5 for ps5