So the federal with the white base wad makes great 2 3/4" steel loads, GM data works great in them, running 1 1/8 oz steel, 32 grn Alliant steel and a w209 in them, lists that at 1425 fps, they pattern well
I have found a load with steel for these hulls since this video. They work very well. Thanks for sharing your findings. I’ll keep them in my data library.
*SINCE THE STANDARDS for base wad height and shell length are subject to constant change you might do well to discover ROLL CRIMPING and hull trimming.* .
I have some Federal Premium HV Tactical 9-00 Buck 2 3/4" hulls, brass plated steel head. They were free so I will use them. Spoke to Federal and the tech advised me they are in the process of changing from a "plastic formed" base wad to a "inserted plastic" base wad.
One simple way of looking at it is all hulls even within the same brand name are different You have to find the ones that you have the best luck with The ones You like the best and just stick with those. That way it keeps reloading simple and more enjoyable
Federal now has the new "High Overall" (HOA) shotshell line out that features a new hull with a one piece basewad and tapered hull design. Seems almost identical to Remington STS hulls except for color. Just more confusion in the world of shotshells.
it is just a burgundy STS, use the same load data as your STS, they load very well. Vista outdoors acquired remington ammunition and not long after the HOA line came out.
I called federal 10-16-22 they informed me that they do not have load data for the haul your talking about I have contacted precision reloading there going to test some loads I put together for 12ga
I'm a little late to the show but I had a question about powder migration in straight walled hulls especially Federal Topgun, Gameload, etc.. I have never been able to find a straight wall wad that fit tight in them. I only use these hulls because I have a lot of them that were free to me. I'll use a load and wad recommended by Lyman but always have to put some sort of over-powder wad of paper or cardboard over the powder first(pain in the butt) otherwise I get powder floating all around the shot column. Have you ever had this problem or have any solutions? Excellent videos. Why did you stop making them?
I have had powder migration problems. Usually it is from using a tapered style wad in a straight wall hull. The overpowder cards they have a ballistic products or precision reloading do work. You might try a different wad/load combo and see if that helps.
Push your wad base against a pool ball. Expands it about .01. Usually fixes it. Otherwise ballistic products should sell federal wads. If not any noblesport is a straightwalled hull.
I have a box of once fired federal 16ga with the fiber base wads. Still haven’t found a good way to put steel reloads in them. But someday they will publish some reload data for them. So they will just sit there until that happens. Until then, Cheddite will get the nod. Do love the purple Federals though.
I think those purple hulls are one of the things that draw us in. There just isn’t anything like shooting a nicely balanced 16 gauge. Thanks for the encouragement.
I have heard great things about the GAEP machines. Right now they are just a little out of my price range. Who knows maybe one day I will get to experience them. Thanks for watching.
I mounted my presses with a cookie sheet under them so if I spill anything it collects on the sheet and not the floor. Thanks for the videos.
So the federal with the white base wad makes great 2 3/4" steel loads, GM data works great in them, running 1 1/8 oz steel, 32 grn Alliant steel and a w209 in them, lists that at 1425 fps, they pattern well
I have found a load with steel for these hulls since this video. They work very well. Thanks for sharing your findings. I’ll keep them in my data library.
*SINCE THE STANDARDS for base wad height and shell length are subject to constant change you might do well to discover ROLL CRIMPING and hull trimming.*
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I have some Federal Premium HV Tactical 9-00 Buck 2 3/4" hulls, brass plated steel head. They were free so I will use them. Spoke to Federal and the tech advised me they are in the process of changing from a "plastic formed" base wad to a "inserted plastic" base wad.
Thanks for sharing this with me.
That was printed some time ago!,Lyman please #6!, one of these decades, or THIS CENTURY?
Here in 2024, FWIR it does seem like they've drug their feet on a 6th edition.
One simple way of looking at it is all hulls even within the same brand name are different You have to find the ones that you have the best luck with The ones You like the best and just stick with those. That way it keeps reloading simple and more enjoyable
Good information! thanks again!
I load all straights with the same data...
Same, never had a problem
Federal now has the new "High Overall" (HOA) shotshell line out that features a new hull with a one piece basewad and tapered hull design. Seems almost identical to Remington STS hulls except for color. Just more confusion in the world of shotshells.
it is just a burgundy STS, use the same load data as your STS, they load very well. Vista outdoors acquired remington ammunition and not long after the HOA line came out.
@@paulmudd9809 I never made that connection before, that all makes sense now.
I called federal 10-16-22 they informed me that they do not have load data for the haul your talking about I have contacted precision reloading there going to test some loads I put together for 12ga
I'm a little late to the show but I had a question about powder migration in straight walled hulls especially Federal Topgun, Gameload, etc.. I have never been able to find a straight wall wad that fit tight in them. I only use these hulls because I have a lot of them that were free to me. I'll use a load and wad recommended by Lyman but always have to put some sort of over-powder wad of paper or cardboard over the powder first(pain in the butt) otherwise I get powder floating all around the shot column. Have you ever had this problem or have any solutions? Excellent videos. Why did you stop making them?
I have intended to make more videos. Since I opened up the gunsmith shop I have just been real busy.
I have had powder migration problems. Usually it is from using a tapered style wad in a straight wall hull. The overpowder cards they have a ballistic products or precision reloading do work. You might try a different wad/load combo and see if that helps.
Push your wad base against a pool ball. Expands it about .01. Usually fixes it. Otherwise ballistic products should sell federal wads. If not any noblesport is a straightwalled hull.
For educational purposes possibly made me laugh 😂
I have a box of once fired federal 16ga with the fiber base wads. Still haven’t found a good way to put steel reloads in them.
But someday they will publish some reload data for them. So they will just sit there until that happens.
Until then, Cheddite will get the nod.
Do love the purple Federals though.
I think those purple hulls are one of the things that draw us in. There just isn’t anything like shooting a nicely balanced 16 gauge. Thanks for the encouragement.
I've seen 12 ga Federal paperbase wad data from Precision Reloding. Maybe the have data in 16 ga.
Hi bud u are using the wrong machine for ur crimps try one of the gaep machines no comparison i reload ectensevely for 20 guage and 16
I have heard great things about the GAEP machines. Right now they are just a little out of my price range. Who knows maybe one day I will get to experience them. Thanks for watching.