Simucube active pedals TESTED-what they can really do?
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2022
- The Simucube Active pedals changing the simracing world or are just another gimmick for little extra immersion?
I had the chance to test them for several hours at the Simracing Expo and feel the full potential! See all the effects they can produce and the endless possibility in there software. 
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Every single time I watch your videos I feel an extra motivation. Thank you so much and keep pushing!
Wow 😯 so glad to read that Mino ❤️
Life is f…n short and we have to take the maximum 💪
Your videos are among the best simracing footage (awesome setup!) , best review and advice. I like your steady calm manner and wide range of appeal - you accept everyone can be either a beginner with entry level equipment - all the way to full on sim rigs.
Keep up the great work - you are essential to the sim community!
Thanks for the kind words Gavin 🤗
Most of the times beginners are in so much better place and have much more fun in the hobby!
I was super happy person wen I first started with Logitech g25 and race with those for 4-5 years many hours per day 😃 those can be also my best days in racing as there was so much fun meeting new people and learning and improving my driving 😃
Gears are nothing but investment to keep our passion alive 😁
Best regards buddy 🤛
You have a positive energy about you. Keep the videos coming. All the best to you
Thx buddy 🤛
Happy holidays 🎄
First adopters will always pay the price for new tech. In a few years and a couple more generations of product cycles, if this concept is accepted as viable by the community at large, we will see more and more affordable pedals like these financially accessible to the average income sim racer. Heck, look at Direct drive wheels... took a little time, now we see a proliferation of examples that are a fraction of cost as the early units. Have patience and we all will reap the benefits and still have some disposable income after the purchase.... in the meantime, my rumble pedals and Butt kicker under the pedal board, and H-shifter with clutch pedal lockout, will hold me over until then. Great video as always!!! Always nice to be exposed to new tech from an experienced sim racer rather than just media marketing by the manufacturer. Will these be the standard operational concepts of pedals in the future? Only time will tell..............
That is the future and there will be much more affordable models for completely different price 💪
It's amazing what they managed to make of these pedals, this whole story about the software and everything you can adjust is crazy it's great that you had a chance to try these pedals that you felt where you are going wrong when braking so that the ABS still works when you turn now you can work on improving your braking on your pedals until you get the money to buy this madness and then break more records on your favorite tracks
Absolutely 💪😁
Love you brother 🤗
It unbelievable how far sim technology has come and to think next year there will be someting new with more. Great content as always bro thank you. 😊
It is getting crazy indeed Doneil 😃
I see a video, I click Like, then I start watching. Thanks for everything. Great breakdown on the software and I think i’ll be adding the brake pedal in the future.
Thx for the support Luke 🤗
I always enjoy your videos so thank you. I agree with your views regarding costs vs value, for me I always think of the quote "Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten" 😀
What a beautiful quote Simon 😃 never heard that before but is so on spot 😁
Love the story, great work and please keep exploring the limits of SimRacing for all of us.
Really sorry I missed you on Thursday. I saw you around noon at the Cube Controls booth, but didn‘t want to interrupt. Keep up with your awesome content. Thank you for everything
Hey Hugo , happy to know you had fun there 😃
Sorry if I looked busy man 🙈
Next time don’t hesitate to interrupt me from whatever I do 😃
@@chepilevski i wouldn’t say busy, just in the tunnel. 🫣It’s fine, mate. There will be other opportunities. This being said, merry Christmas to all of you out there
@@HugoVanArt hahaha , that’s correct 😁
Happy Christmas buddy
Great vid ! When you receive the pedals for testing and review I will watch for sure cause I'm really curious about it to know if they are truly worth it. 🏁
I like your content, I like how you express yourself, I like you as a person even if I don't know you, I like the motivations that drive you, thank you seriously for this content.
Wow 😮
Thank you for that beautiful post buddy ❤️
It means a lot to me 🍻
What's really cool about this is, that you can switch presets if you're racing something where you don't need a clutch you can have the brake on the left without changing anything on the hardware side.
This is hardware from another world. 😊 super interesting how you explain them! 💪 keeps it up! 👌
I’m sure you tested them bro 😃
Crazy tech 💪
@@chepilevski i did not. 😬 45 min of standing in line seemed a bit long. The more I’m interested in your video.
@@heelandtoeknee oh god , it was busy indeed! Thursday was really good for testing
Those sound amazing! I've been trying to think of a way to make my peddles vibrate when abs or tc is activated. But this just sounds incredible! I just seems to me that having that particular information would have to improve laps times at least a little but the improved consistency is what really excites me. I'm consistently inconsistent.
@rtdude1 you don't need to think of a way. Abs works with sim hub just add little vibration pucks to your pedals. Gamer muscle videos has a video on it or many others. Just search how to add vibration to sim pedals
@@Simlife101 Thank you! I will do that
@Brummie Deano Ive done exactly this. Use a Dayton audio puk cable tied to the pedal. Also made a custom pedal face lazer cut from steel to mount a Dayton BST-1 directly to the pedal face. Both worked incredibly well with Simhub. Can feel ABS TC & Also wheel slip & lock perfectly. No need to break the bank with these Simucube pedals. These transducers have been a game changer. Especially the ABS and lock sensations coming from the break pedal. Ive also managed to feel independent sensation for all four tires. By using a bucket seat I get left rear wheel sensation at my left hip. Right wheel sensations on my right hip. I created two seperate heel plates that sit under my inverted pedals. One for left foot the other for my right foot. All isolated from one another allowing me to also independently feel what is happening with both left and right front tyres. So in essence I have seperate sensation for all four tyres operating independantly from one another. Plus whell slip and TC through my accelerator pedal. And ABS and lock coming through my brake pedal
@@simonoregan4744 just incredible! I think I will copy that in 2023^^
@@simonoregan4744 could you tell me please what hardware (amplifire, shakers) you are using and how you assembled everything? Would it also be possible to just take any old speaker which I find at the attic and use its shaker?
cheers
I love the way your videos arent just videos- but include your thoughts- your philosophy , your dreams and you life. i feel you are a driver of course- but have the soul of a poet- i dont mean that sarcastically but as a cimpliment warmly from one who also likes to think deeply on simple things- and simply on deep things.
Hey brother, your post means a lot as I really try to share more then just racing videos and send some messages out there 😃
I personally benefit from that racing passion in all aspects of my life and it really helps me a lot with everything else I have to deal on daily basis!
Having hobby is amazing thing and really can helps us go trough life in the best possible way 💪😃
top notch video as always by RBM
Thanks Steliyan great vid, very expensive but hopefully other manufacturers can do similar and less costly in the future 👍👍👍
Trust me Pete, soon someone will come out with similar concept, I sow everyone getting worried with those at the expo (I mean other pedal producers) and they probably start planning 😁
this is a really good explanation. makes me really want them. I built a sim rig a couple years ago and the pedal feel just isn't there for me. So much so that I really don't use the rig all that much because breaking feels so unrealistic.
love your videos ❤❤❤
The smile on your face when you talk about it, priceless 🤗🤗🙋🏼♀️🙋🏼♀️
I’m just so excited as I know that here is going to change the entire future! I can see how will this evolve and that’s just the first small step 😃
Happy Christmas days sweet heart 🥂
@@chepilevski thank you happy holiday and stay safe 😍
these videos are just majestic
😮 thanks for the support Gabe ❤️
A while back, I suggested the idea of force feedback pedals as the next thing for sim racing. Congratulations to Simucube for making this a reality. My critique is the price and the fact that it is not able to be retrofitted to existing pedal sets, (especially the Fanatec CSW 2.5 pedals, which I find, as very good value for money, functionality and rigidity) and did I fail to mention the price !!! I could buy a second hand sportsbike and have no problem with justifying the cost compared to the value I would get at the price point of these pedals.
That’s just the beginning buddy 😃
The first big step is done and as every new tech , there are thousands reasons to be super expensive but with the time we will see much more affordable products !
This will be very long development from games side and the hardware and already have insane potential for the future!
the thing that would make me switch someday is the addition of real world settings for each car
That’s crazy indeed 😃
Congratulations, the video is of the expected high quality and very entertaining! But some comments are also funny. I give the example of a plane flight, the plane that flies from point A to point B takes off, drives and lands in only one way. But regular and business class tickets are sold for this flight! Who will ride his ass in what seat should decide for himself! Is business class worth the money, the person who is dear to him has no choice but to resent and even laugh, but for the businessman who will travel in luxury and pampering and will arrive rested and refreshed for the important business meeting, it is worth it every cent!?!?! There is no way that the pedals we already know and those with the latest and most modern innovative technology are at the same price! Everyone has to decide for themselves what equipment they want??!!?? And make the best choice for yourself!
Quote taken from video @0:20 "or is it just another gimmick for a little extra immersion"................
Well, I tell you ONE thing that isn't a gimmick --- and that's the Race Beyond Matter Channel, as this is another very interesting & informative video as usual, RBM. :)))
Big hug brother 🤗
good video still happy with my heusinkveld pro 3 paddles.
but these paddle make me think about changing them.
Maybe just put the brake between the HE ! I’m definitely going for one only and use it as a brake as that’s what I really need
I love the idea of this product. But to expensive for now for me. I will keep my bass shakers that can help me getting this abs information. Of course it's not gonna add good as the active pedals.. but for 100eur. Also i heard some complains about the grainy/ digital feeling of the active pedals
i just got the haptic reactors ffor my p2000 pedals and they are a game changer. not sure i could ever justify the cost of these pedals but for the rest of us that arent rich they are an in expensive amazing add on
according to simucube, the existing gas and clutch pedals can be coupled with an active pedal and controlled via simucube's software. in this respect, only the brake pedal is actually needed :)
super cool thing
I don’t understand why most of the people talk about 6k as we need mostly the brake 🤔 I don’t think i will ever go for even second pedal and clutch will be total waste of money as a barely touch mine 😁
@@chepilevski I think the clutch would also be nice... because of "feeling" the bite point or motor brake for some "educational" driving simulator for driving schools. This technology and the possibilities are crazy.
@@subsonicpulse2889 that’s absolutely true 🤛
I’m mostly talking about my personal preferences but nevertheless all 3 pedals have enormous potential 💪
i think its a good idea for simucube to make a padelset with FFB brake padel and normal throttle and clutch. Maybe also a version with FFB throttle. But maybe they can make a set for 3-4K with the FFB brake padel. Because its the most importent on the brake. We don't need 3 FFB padels anyway.
I will take only the brake ! Maybe in the future i if technology involves and there is something more affordable I can go for throttle but honestly I need FB only for the brake 😃
At that point you can just buy pedals from any brand and add one of the simucube pedals. Why would they spend time re-inventing the 'wheel' on a regular pedal set?
The benefits are obvious - feedback, being able to replicate literally any pedal, tuning with a mouse instead of a toolkit and a bunch of springs/elastomers - but aren't at all worth the price.
New tech will always be overpriced!
There will be in the future affordable models!
I just want to support the new tech and developers but I can afford just one and honestly I need just the brake which will make the biggest difference for me 💪
I’m worried about stand alone clutch and accelerator as my Heusinkvelds usb hub is on the brake which I will be replacing. I will own one of these pedals. I need the immersion not the reduction in time, I get lonely sometimes and my rig and hot lapping is my only distraction so if this pedal helps me feel more connected to the car and further away from the world around me I will be buying it, it’s cheaper than therapy 🎉
I think they work around that issue as they are aware most of us will go for single pedal and we will be able to connect any pedals and control them trough the same software 😃
How about trying to find a resolution to your feelings of loneliness rather than playing videogames and spending money on videogames as a distraction and way to avoid dealing with it?
For me is Simracing like Meditation ,more Hardware,more Immersion to dive deeper in Virtual Reality
I will receive the sim3d motor rumbles for pedals this week, ill test them and tell you how they feel. Its 2% $ of those simicube lol . For basically all models .
You will love those for sure Philippe 😃 I have tested them and are awesome 💪
Looks great. Thanks. Did you purchase them?
I will purchase only one and those I’ve tested at the expo !
Don’t know if I get one at the first release but I can get one for test and review for a month or so !
Interesting, I may have to look into these. The pedal arms seem a tad short. I wonder if that a limitation of the motors. Maybe longer leverage would overwhelm the motors.
I think with racing shoes or socks will be perfect in hight!
I don’t see setting to make it longer 🤔
Many other youtubers mentioned the throttle was grainy and felt horrible. I didn't hear you mention this did you feel it?
You can get a D-Box motion system for that price.
No bro , I didn’t felt that at all and I tested like a lot of different settings for few hours in total In those 4 days !
I heard that too but I didn’t felt something like this at all !
The only thing I forgot is to test them with socks only but for some reason I totally forgot even if I was thinking about it every time I was back in the hotel 🙈
this is what i was waiting for to pull the trigger, opinion from someone who can tell if they are any good, thanks!
any particular combo of throttle and clutch to pair it with?, haveing HE sprints feels bad that all pedals are connected to the brake and i dont want to have 4 pedals connected
I think you can connect directly the other pedals to this one and control from the same software but I’m not sure if is ready yet! You must contact them and ask for your particular case buddy!
I am considering this as a brake pedal replacement on my p2000s. I am curious if you can answer this because I know you have a bunch of experience with the P2000, but do you know if the active pedal has the same height adjustment as the p2000s? I have larger feet and all of the photos and videos I have seen were in the same lower pedal height configuration.
Hey buddy, honestly I haven’t given much attention how high we can set the pedal plate 🙈
I hope to have chance for longer tests of those but you can check Busted Media review and see if he give further details about those settings 🤛
This is a tough one - yes I can afford them, but I don't think they're are going to balance the cost/enjoyment value equation from my personal point of view.
It's easy in any hobby to lust after expensive gear, and while I can understand the level of desire for these pedals, I would ask all to consider whether you can really afford them before buying - it seems obvious, but I've seen people get into serious debt as a result of their desire to have all top end gear for their hobby. This is very not good.
Absolutely!
People must consider individually there decisions and needs !
I personally can afford 1 and honestly ones is what I need !
Steliyan, on the matter of performance vs extra immersion, whats your take on bass shakers? Have you tried them? Just extra immersion or would they help you to feel when losing the car?
They can help you feel with the time what’s going on with the car but in my opinion they absolutely brutal for immersion! I don’t have those only because they are too loud and ones you have them you can’t live without them 🙈
I like those more then motion!
@@chepilevski ohh, now I'm excited to try them :)
Assetek is making these as well, plus with an actual cars abs system
I saw those and tested them with my hands ! They look like really concept and will be great edition to the market but completely different tech !
We the consumer, set the price. If we weren't willing to pay the price for high end equipment, they won't exist. That being said the more competition leads to more innovation. You couldn't get a direct drive wheel for under $1000 a few years ago
How comfortable are the seats that you using in this video for long hours? Is the padding on bottom rest enough? Any negatives to the seat? I'm planning to buy it too. Please let me know. Thanks
Hey buddy, are you asking for the Sabelt GT-Pad seat? If yes, it is of in terms of comfort! I’ve set a little memory foam for my low back which helps a lot and the bottom pad is ok ! I have the medium size pads but the bottom pad is the same thickness in all sizes and I wouldn’t say is the best but is ok and I never felt pain!
It will depend a lot how you will set the seat to get the maximum comfort and I personally used the highest whole front and the lower back to lean the seat enough and transfer my body weight to the middle!
@@chepilevski Thanks so much for the reply. How much space do you have between the hip and the bottom side rests? Trying to figure out, for a 46 in waist would this seat fit comfortably? I think XL size has 1.2 in wide foams on the side.
I am tormenting, on one hand, one of the things that I like about sim racing is the consistency and lack of having to worry. But this type of pedal, wow, if you could build into the game something like extended travel due to pad wear in an endurance race, how good would that be? To have a definitive understanding that you are at a point where you have to start looking after your brakes or you know that the efficiency was decreasing would be amazing. One question that I have for you, how do you feel about the use of tactile transducers on sim rig set ups? I keep thinking about it for added ABS and rear of car feeling but not too sure if it would be worth it or not.
The reason I’m so excited is , those pedals open completely new horizon for the simulation 😃 if software can give that info the hardware of those pedals can simulate that for sure!
And about transducers, those are probably the best upgrade to give life to your rig ! I don’t have ones as they are too noisy for my environment but every time I test I’m amazed!
@@chepilevski ah, awesome. I will add that to my "to do list" and buy myself enough stuff to do a DIY as a Christmas present to myself....
I do however live in an apartment/flat so not sure how my neighbour downstairs will like it. 🤭
@@stevetadman6272 tactile transducers are especially good for iracing as the current feedback system through wheelbase is only for steering rod so you're limited to get front tyre info. Other Sims give info for all four wheels.
To reduce noise, you can look into vibration isolation kits as DIY, or like the one from slip-angle, although not many reviews are out there about them.
Beautiful pedals!! But even my taxes wouldn't cover 2 pedal lmao. Too expensive! I see your still using the fx-pro wheel! Still working well for you? They still haven't RMA mine yet.
What’s the problem with your brother 😞
I hope you will sort it !
I drive with those to see how they keep I. Long term and for now goes well here !
I can afford only one pedal , but honestly one is only what I need !
I'm looking forward to someone coming up with a diy version. Us po folk gonna have to... with the cost of these being in the realm of mortgage payments per piece.
That’s the future and I can promise you there will be affordable units at much more affordable price 😃
Race Beyond Matter last night I took a page from your tips. Made a mouse holster with 2 pieces of foam board wrapped in Alcantara spread apart with some stand offs 😆 does the trick n doesn't look bad either
@@lawerancelanham I have dressed plastic box from cigarettes dressed in alcantara for my mouse too 🤣🤣🤣
I drove them as well, twice. My impression is that the activepedal is a tool that can best be used by „aliens“. I think normal drivers who still have a huge amount to learn and are far from being consistent and/or fast will not benefit from the huge info output this pedal has to offer. Looking at iracing, I‘d say that anyone below 6k has very different details to take care of before even thinking of getting one of these pedals. That said, I think this pedal will eventually widen the gap between the already insanely fast and skilled and the rest. The pressure to get these pedals for their drivers will be on the top teams. And they will pay the price, as we already see purses going up in simracing and marketing values of drivers and teams increase.
As I’ve said , there will always be aliens with simple equipment who will rock around 😃
I will take one mostly because to support the tech but from what I heard around the expo from other producers, they won’t have much choice and must start developing hopefully more affordable pedals with those futures.
I remember I think Jimmy Broadbent did video "£7 vs £7000 Racing Simulator. Which Is Faster?" where took shittiest wheel he could find and compare it to his rig and honestly gain in time are minuscule, like below a half a second on a minute long track. It's still 99% the driver 1% the gear, but yeah, you need 100% to win the race.
Of course, it would feel a lot more fun to drive with good gear but gear was never a huge barrier in sims, especially now. Unlike in actual motorsports.
@@xani666 Then again, 0,5 sec over a lap is an absolute World. Talented and dedicated people can get used to any kind of gear. Great gear just helps in doing the things needed to get great results. There is no substitute for talent, seat time and understanding racing physics.
Very cool video. But you mention how important abs information is. I agree, but you can get the same cues via vibration motors or transducers for much cheaper
That’s for sure buddy 🤛
I’ve tested both and I’m just excited how intuitive those haptics are 😃
@@chepilevski so you much prefer the simucube? Do you think the throttle is necessary or mainly the brake?
I’ll keep my V3s.
Does it have the "inertial" feeling? I mean, when you brake very hard in a car the first part of it it's quite easy due to the inertia of the car, then the brake pedal gets heavier within meters. Is there a way to replicate that?
I understand what you mean and there is a way to create that progressive feeling trough curves in the software settings! It’s not going to be exactly the same as there is no inertia and Gforce but can be something similar
With v3 pedals you have also feedback on abs kicking. For sure this will never been so detailed as this one but way much cheaper.
Wow.
I got motion a seat mover, it's 2300 euros, these pedals in 1.200 maybe... But set of two. Now it's absurd
There will be pedals in this price at some point for sure 😃
That’s the future of pedals 💪
Which GPU would I need to play ACC on triple 1440p monitors for an AVG of 100- 120 fps high settings?
I have 3080 and get 80- 90 fps on 1440p triples.
3090 should deliver what u are looking for.
@@MP-78 Thank you!.
Was thinking of going with the rx 7900 xt
Who was that quadriplegic man that is doing the Sim racing? I have a quad friend who is looking to play some games. Would love to send him that whole video
Here is the video and I think I have contact in the description for Nenad!
He can help a lot with ideas
ruclips.net/video/TbPPDiIbur4/видео.html
@@chepilevski Thats awesome! Thank you. Keep up the good work👍
nothing beats G29 with MANUAL GEAR SHIFTER !!!
Maybe the G27 💪😁
Torille;)
😁
You can get the same feedback through haptic feedback devices, DIY rumble motors, or rumble motors from sim3D. All at one-tenth of the cost of one of these pedals. The consideration factors for purchasing the Simucube pedal are more immersion and adjustment convenience vs price.
Ah, it is not the same Bobby !
Rumble motors are awesome indeed but this feels completely different!
@@chepilevski I think there point was rumble motors will give you that information on the pedal so I know when too ease off the brake. I use one my self. Obviously these pedals are completely different.
@@Simlife101 whether discussing motion systems of the active pedal, it’s not the same thing. Vibration is not the same thing as movement (even micro movements). Started out with telemetry based haptics, and while nice, I moved to motion. Currently have pedal rumble motors on my pedals, the experience is so so. Aside from not being a replacement for movement, there is a bit of lag.
@@netlawman2001 I never said motion was the same as vibration. I have pucks on my pedals and once I go into TC or the ABS kicks in I know straight away and I don't feel any lag. What is highly dependent on Transducers that not many people seem aware of is the latency can be removed by using a better sound card. When I used my onboard sound there was a decent bit of delay in the TC kicking in and my pucks vibrating. I don't know why as I'm not experienced in sound but once I got a good sound card (I tried a cheap one £50 and same delay) which I paid £150 for the delay disappeared. I think there must be some sort of programming in cheap Sound cards that cause dealy but due to how sound travels we don't hear it but it's very prominent when feeling the delay. Like I said I have no idea why that is. I've also asked 2 friends to try it blind and the both agree and picked my expensive sound card having less delay so its not a placebo effect.
Do you have any idea why that would be.
@@Simlife101 all good points and my last note wasn’t trying to correct what you previously said :) the only thing I can think of causing a delay is sound processing in the PC or the pucks themselves. I use Clark transducers and don’t experience a delay. One option you could try is to use an external DAC connected via usb. Sorry I couldn’t be more help.
paid by simucube? KEKW
Full insurance and my mortgage 💸 🤣🤣🤣
it doesn't matter how good it is, the price is theft!
not enough kidneys to pay !!!
You ain't wrong!!
They done got on the cancer drug wagon... as in charge em to the moon.
Wait for the Simagic (chinese knock off) version.
China company getting getting too greedy
There will be other brands bringing their own out though after these are released. Companies will just reverse engineer them as soon as they available.
Can only hope software is better than true drive wheelbase software...simucube hardware and effects are second to none but software usability is very bad imo. From the screenshots of the pedal driver it looks like you can't even have different profiles. If they had amazing software (at this price they should) I would buy a clutch and brake for sure...but at the very slow pace true drive has been updated and still lacking basic features I'm very worried I'll be disappointed. In any case, very exciting products hope the rest of the industry takes notice.
Oh , i can tell everyone from the industry I’ve talked to was very worried about this and they know that’s the future! Every single one of those companies who was there test it and said is crazy stuff! I’m sure in the next 2 maximum 3 years will have many like those and hopefully with more affordable prices!
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I'm addicted to simracing and in luv with my simucube but I don't see my self spending 6000 euro on pedals even if I have 1 million
I will try to save only for the brake as that’s what’s I need the most ! 6k is for those who don’t know there money 😁
@@chepilevski u might be right man and its absolutely amazing, but I'll stay with my break pedal with vibration feeling for that price tbh, and trust me won't take much until other company beat that price
Traction control pushing the throttle pedal isn't even a thing actual supercars have, I always kinda thought that's a missed opportunity
I think real racing industry will start taking from sim !
Already big brands takes wheels from sim companies like McLaren from Asher , Mercedes from Cube Control and BMW from Fanatec 😃 crazy stuff is going on between sim and real 💪
@Mariusz Gronczweski also how it that not cheating. Same with the abs he mentioned at around 15 mins in that once the abs kicks in the brake pedal will release/push back automatically. This is cheating
@@Simlife101 Cheating how ? The car is already modulating braking(ABS) or reducing engine power(TC) on its own. Now if car was without TC I can see some reasoning here but we're not talking about that.
Just instead of TC light blinking you have some pedal pushback. Car already is telling you that information, using pedal for it is just different channel.
Also have you not triggered abs in a car ? it's not really "brake pedal pushing back on you", it's ABS pulsing the hydraulic fluid used for brakes and your brake pedal is just part of that system. It won't regulate braking force for you, it will just signal you that you went over.
It's essentially giving driver feedback about what their wheels are doing in real time, still need skilled driver to operate it
@@xani666 so I miss heard sorry.
It was the TC. Towards the end of the video he states they're working on software that once the traction control kicks in the pedal will push back slightly so that will take you out of the traction control. That is cheating. If the pedal can push back by its own to remove the TC kicking in then that is software based control of a game which is cheating.
If I use a gun in a shooter game and I use software so when I'm just off target it pulls me over that's called AIMBOT and cheating.
How can it be fair go have software that can control you throttle in such a way that once tv kicks in it automatically comes off the gas for you.
Not fair in my opinion also he even states "we wanted something real race cars don't have"
@@xani666 as for the car already telling you about TC through the blink system yes that correct BUT it isnt going to just be a simple "pedal pushing back a bit" it would be possible tp set it up so the moment you go into TC the pedal takes yiu put of it sorry but that is not realistic. Eye brow blinkers for ABS and TC is in the real cars but in no real race car do you have a pedal pushing back just the perfect amount of gas pedal travel making it impossible tp go into the TC. Imagine how easy it would be for drivers to manipulate the sim.
There's a reason why Iracing doesn't allow certain telemetry
U can justify it because real track days or amateur racing is a lot more expensive. 4g on car parts is not that much 😅
Totally agree 🤛
WARNING ⚠️ if you buy these 6500 euro pedals , you need to get space suite too with it. They should be rated " vacum compatible, you can use it in space"
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First thing, irwcing abs is broke. Price is crazy. Most the time the faster guys can be fast and don’t need the gimmicks. This system may actually be an advantage compared to 99% of all the other brake systems? Cars with ABS which I prefer a non abs race cars, more pure raw, not even TC. The GTE cars are headed to retirement and the GT3 is the car for the next few years before all get burnt out. Even the Great Senna said I loved pure racing, go karts was pure racing. Something like that lol
1000 bucks each?
2300 each 🙈 but I personally want and need just one for the brake!
@@chepilevski now, are you serious or did you just throw a number out? lol
I'm using tactile feedback since 2016 and surprised you are not using this essential advantage. I can't brake without and don't really need muscle-memory since my pedals/Buttkickers are telling me when it's too much. So it doesn't need 2.3k EUrupees to do the trick and those pedals take the same telemetry translating it into effects.
Shakers have some advantages to motion-actuators: they are quicker and can't distract you and your inputs. I'm not convinced that these pedals are free of any artificial friction/intertia that is absent in normal pedals, especially regarding throttle and clutch. Sim-Racing pedals are simulating car-pedals with the same or similar principle and why doing it differently? Those 'brake-by-wire'-systems in real cars (racecars as well) are even working like in sim-racing, just the actuators are doing the mechanical jobs and not trying to mock pedals for unknown reasons...
I know brother, I have tested that and is really good 💪
This is very different tech and have absolutely crazy potential!
@@chepilevski Potential to loot your bank-account I guess or do you get a set for free?🤔 For the asked price they will be a niche and I would rather get a RS MEGA+ for this money😋
@@Leynad778 that’s exactly what is my point buddy, you value other things which worth more for you !
I’m thinking to take one because it worth for me personally! Price is insane and no one have different opinion about that but as that new technology really makes me exited I’m personally whiling to spend the stupid price for brake pedal!
There is no point judging other people choices as it makes no sense , just do whatever exiting you the most as at the end of the day life is short and as long as your choice doesn’t hurt other people , we are obligated to take what makes us motivated and happy!
Problem is that 99,8% of sim racing community can't afford this 5000€ pedals so even if they change the game for some few youtubers and esporters it doesn't matter in the big picture...
That’s the beginning and now is not mainstream but I’m sure will be the new standard in few years with better prices! I personally can’t afford the current price 🙈
But let's be honest, how many people will be willing to spend 6.5K for a set of 3 pedals? It's totally crazy and the price in my eyes is not justified
There will be people doing that I’m sure buddy, I personally won’t spend that price for throttle or clutch but I really want one for brake 😃
You only need one for brake
@@-racingfan2014 if the game devs code clutch physics, brake and clutch would be next level for a rig. Although it would be a disadvantage because some clutches are hard on the legs to operate.
@@winnythekahuna8073 I think it might take many years for devs to model clutch as they have other priorities. Clutch slip and different bite point for certain cars would be great. But if the implementation is just fixed bitepoint and certain force you can do in software yourself. Like on the brake abs should come from the game and not a fixed input.
@@-racingfan2014 I think you are right about development priorities. Although, having a good simulation of a RL clutch dynamics would make the pedals a valuable training tool. Anyway, I would rather game devs focus more on accurate 5.1 sound reproduction and positioning to make immersion better in their racing sims for now.
My car costs less than these
My car too 🤣
But driving your car makes you feel miserable and ordinary while driving with these sim gear makes you feel happy and special.
Also you can’t make people jealous with your car…😉
Its in my cart.... donyou think it worth it vs my simworx hehehe sorry again :)
Those are the best tech man.
Worth is always subjective topic and it depends on you if will worth the sacrifice but one thing for sure is, those are the best sim pedals ever existed and we need some competition in that new technology!
7K pedals No Thanks
Weird video.
10 minutes of talking about nothing more than we already knew from the initial presentations, so much talk about feelings, just to culminate with "no one can say if it is worth it, other than yourself".
I do enjoy your videos, but this one feels forced and lacks value.
What about the people who have not seen the other "initial presentations" as you say butter cup
Know nothing about those pedals apart from what was said there. Didn't know they exist. Interesting video for me. Got HE Ultimates myself, but I'm not up to date on current technology.
Point of view respected Kamil 🤛
For you this video had no value for other did 😃
Is the same with everything in life !
Sorry if you felt I waisted your time but that’s the risk always 🙈
Take a beer 🍺 and forget about it 🤛
Who cares about noob-cars with lame aids like ABS. How do these pedals fair in other aspects? Are people really going to pay $3000 for 1 pedal just so it can move when lame ABS is activated on a lame ABS-car?
Good vid but abs is for babies
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Old school b….d 😉
Just because a company makes a product doesn’t mean it’s for the everyday guy/girl. These are made for racing companies and training schools and stuff like that where companies spend millions on simulation rigs. So everybody quit crying about the price and saying you can’t afford it. We already know that 😂
I’m sure there will be affordable pedals down in the line as that’s the future for sure ! Every pedal producer company at the expo tested those and got worried 😁
New tech is expensive for so many reasons 🙈
I personally don’t understand why people got so mad with that 🤔 it is great first step which is changing the future in my opinion and at some point will evolve and be much more reachable 🤗