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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @Pyovali
    @Pyovali Год назад +894

    I can't believe how no one hasn't filed a lawsuit over all this

    • @Mmmm_tea
      @Mmmm_tea Год назад +74

      same, they got into trouble for browser choice making IE the default a decade ago, they had to make special N versions of windows that came without Internet explorer but I guess that just applied to the old version of windows at the time? because they are doing what the Fug they want now!

    • @TheAmanor123
      @TheAmanor123 Год назад +12

      well do it yourself then ?

    • @Yshtola.
      @Yshtola. Год назад +80

      microsoft is a trillion dollar company good luck with that. xd

    • @doomtrigger
      @doomtrigger Год назад +45

      @@Yshtola. so is facebook and they get sued all the time and lose same with youtube

    • @JohanlastZa
      @JohanlastZa Год назад +28

      There wont be, you acknowledge and agree when installing windows or when you start windows on a brand new device. It is like with Facebook: you can upload photos and share with friends and family BUT when you signed up for Facebook, you actually agreed that your photos will now belong to Facebook and that they can use your photos without your consent. Or when you use the Facebook app on your Android smartphone and agree to the terms and conditions: The app can use your camera and microphone WITHOUT your say so. It is all in the print that we all agree to when first installing or using said software/platforms or devices.

  • @bobhopkins3520
    @bobhopkins3520 Год назад +28

    This is incredible. I know people have been saying windows is snoopy for a long time but I didn't really appreciate what that meant until I saw this video.

  • @Trapped_in_the_Dunya
    @Trapped_in_the_Dunya Год назад +1631

    Another thing to be careful of: some companies with Android software will turn permissions back on during an automatic update.
    Companies love to come out with a new privacy policy update saying "by continuing to use service you agree to..." and turning everything back on at update time.
    Edit: thanks for the 1k likes

    • @daddyattitude
      @daddyattitude Год назад +88

      Have I got a story for you. Happens EVERY time my phone is updated. Every time. Then I spend countless hours trying to find the things I set, to reset them again.

    • @Trapped_in_the_Dunya
      @Trapped_in_the_Dunya Год назад +167

      @@daddyattitude me too
      Personally, I think this should not be legal. It's not like we change our minds when they correct a typo or something

    • @angelben24
      @angelben24 Год назад +4

      @@daddyattitude excuse me, what phone do you use?

    • @dazza5137
      @dazza5137 Год назад +59

      My bank did this, somehow they need access to my physical activity.

    • @a.p5193
      @a.p5193 Год назад

      Try RethinkDNS, you can control all internet access with this app even the system apps. it's work as VPN, so you can't use other VPN when this active, and this can also work as adblock.

  • @aron13dark
    @aron13dark Год назад +83

    Recently saw a video about why some still use Windows XP.
    While I don't use it anymore the reason I still think dearly of it is because I felt like I OWNED my pc.
    Not long ago went looking for some files I had in my windows xp and booted that system.
    There were only 10 processes running and I knew exactly what each of those were.
    It was a system I knew the ins and outs, configured to my liking and felt in control of it.
    Now, a brand new windows computer will have about 200 processes running and even more services, before you even install anything,
    and a lot of those are things I don't want running on my pc.
    New windows feel like buying a new car and the first thing you say when you sit on it "I HATE THIS" ,
    then work on configuring, removing all stuff I don't care and don't want, just so I hate it a little less and windows reinstalling a lot of that crap on the next update.
    If I own a pc I want to be the one installing new software on it, because I have an use for it, I dont want someone else installing whatever software they want, but this is the experience windows gives you, then they collect and sell your data profiting from you just using "your" computer and on top of that make you pay for it.

    • @Generic_Handle4573
      @Generic_Handle4573 6 месяцев назад +3

      Do you connect XP to the internet and if so, how do you keep it safe?

    • @fightshyper
      @fightshyper 5 месяцев назад

      @@Generic_Handle4573 probably the biggest reason is because the update and monitoring of the data has been obsolete and the processes are deprecated. Windows usually dump old things, consider win 90s editions. You cannot find updates on their main shtty website support anymore, except the wayback machine! There are threads that still has copies of Win98 and 95 last updates.

    • @Phenomenal36
      @Phenomenal36 4 месяца назад +1

      Definitely wouldn’t recommend to be using windows xp in todays day and age. Not only from a logistical standpoint but a security standpoint too. You’re downgrading to an inferior model without any upto date security basis which makes it incredibly outdated and susceptible to a large amount of security threats and is still a windows operating system. If you’re willing to change system, you should go with something like Linux which is open sourced and is constantly being updated to keep up with the times and current threats

    • @bar123k5
      @bar123k5 3 месяца назад

      Its not my pc anymore. Its this pc

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Phenomenal36 Yep, any of the top 10 Linux distros are just infinitely better than XP

  • @michaelsoutherland3023
    @michaelsoutherland3023 Год назад +6

    Your surround sound recording is excellent, I looked out my window to see what the swoosh noise was. 0:15

  • @CelicaAutocrosser
    @CelicaAutocrosser Год назад +128

    A good follow up later is to see if a future windows update enables all these features again like they usually do. Microdot just loves to enable those registry keys and group police’s again without telling you. Not to mention change the keys so the program won’t work and you’ll have to wait for a new disable tool.

    • @MoultrieGeek
      @MoultrieGeek Год назад +22

      ShutUp10 recommends rerunning the software after any Windows update and will show what telemetry has been turned back on after the update.

    • @astropgn
      @astropgn Год назад +22

      This is another reason to save the configuration file. After each update, you can quickly reuse it

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo Год назад +9

      they do, but you just launch the software and it tells you what has changes and asks if you want to revert to your settings

    • @ThePlayerOfGames
      @ThePlayerOfGames 7 месяцев назад

      Turns out they did AND they added AI spyware that documents all your actions and is highly hackable

  • @MikeWood
    @MikeWood Год назад +9

    Great info! :) I would also suggest creating a restore point before making changes. Or at least suggesting that for friends when you recommend using this.

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 Год назад +161

    Would love to see you explore the differences between the 2 programs to see which has better coverage for privacy

  • @212-3
    @212-3 Год назад +122

    Even though I'm tempted I don't know if I'm gonna do it, back then I've used different anti-telemetry tools with Windows 10, only to find out months later that parts of the OS were broken because of those tools

    • @TealJosh
      @TealJosh Год назад +92

      That's why the oosu10++ is good, because it's only registry and group policy changes. It can be reverted without any damage.

    • @hugbearsx4
      @hugbearsx4 Год назад +15

      What parts of the OS were broken?

    • @tumultoustortellini
      @tumultoustortellini Год назад +5

      What parts of the os were broken?

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Год назад +7

      Unless you are using your pc for your business you shouldn't care even a bit, there is absolutely nothing oosu10++ can break for gaming or other time killing usage..

    • @sid6645
      @sid6645 Год назад +7

      @@hugbearsx4 for me, my windows search broke. May not be that big of a deal but thats only the stuff I noticed lol

  • @Pewafamath
    @Pewafamath Год назад +81

    Great stuff as always. reassuring to see the tools being the ones I already use always a nice sanity check.

    • @MoultrieGeek
      @MoultrieGeek Год назад +1

      Agreed, I already use O+O but it's nice to see confirmation.

  • @clementc7297
    @clementc7297 Год назад +300

    Boy what energy and time you need to invest for you privacy. I hope gaming will get more support on Linux.

    • @wiking793
      @wiking793 Год назад +45

      It already has improved so much that many gamers have switched and its going to get better and better

    • @Soundwave142
      @Soundwave142 Год назад +24

      It has, Steam's Proton has a 90% success rate.

    • @swide2750
      @swide2750 Год назад +2

      just use arm pc to boot linux

    • @User_1795
      @User_1795 Год назад +3

      ​@@swide2750which basically no software supports 🤷

    • @James-on1vy
      @James-on1vy Год назад +10

      It is already there. You can play basically anything on Linux now.

  • @senpaiiiiiiiiiiiii950
    @senpaiiiiiiiiiiiii950 Год назад +670

    Honestly, I switched to Linux when Windows 11 introduced its unnecessary system requirements and the privacy issues that Windows 10 and 11 introduced.

    • @Grityom
      @Grityom Год назад +24

      Same here, i switched my main computer and kept my laptop on w11.

    • @Truth_Unleashed
      @Truth_Unleashed Год назад +11

      Mint? Qubes? Subgraph? What's a good build to go with?

    • @bantymech8242
      @bantymech8242 Год назад +38

      @@Truth_Unleashed mint if you're a beginner. Few say that oh Arch is for advanced users but nah, I started with Arch messed with the system and finally learnt Linux. Arch is the most beautiful distro I've ever seen.

    • @cassinihuygens1288
      @cassinihuygens1288 Год назад +17

      ​@@Truth_Unleashed pop os is also very nice.
      I prefer it over mint because I get a little better battery life on my laptop (Nvidia GPU) and I've had some visual stuttering issues on plain Ubuntu.

    • @Samulisami
      @Samulisami Год назад +24

      I switched too! Never going back to windows :)

  • @smallqwaro
    @smallqwaro Год назад +11

    I'd get Simplewall too. It's a firewall that also har all the telemetry and tracking blocked by default, you can configure it how you want, it's very simple to use.

  • @pcm2012
    @pcm2012 Год назад +46

    Thanks for the new video. I have learned a lot from you and I really appreciate it. I would like a video to be made about "how to protect our windows PCs from metasploit attacks or other types of attacks hackers do", and another with a "review of hardware firewalls for home use and how to configure them". Keep up the good work! 👍

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Год назад

      Try Linux Mint, put it on a usb drive etc and try it out without even installing anything...then you don't have to deal with any of this BS

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo Год назад +5

    wow this is why machine is sooo slow, it is a spy station that doubles as a desktop

  • @produKtNZ
    @produKtNZ 11 месяцев назад +5

    I use O&O shutup on my PC in conjunction with Adguard Home running on a VM. Solid results with custom lists!

  • @jflores1215
    @jflores1215 Год назад +96

    It's crazy how Microsoft learned from the people that attacked their software......I have to do all this to use a computer knowing someone is spying on me.....

    • @soufmaro502
      @soufmaro502 Год назад

      thats interesting
      calling microsofts spy mechanism
      "a protection for microsofts software"
      is it against piracy ? and now we can spy everyones computer ?
      and that on a computer or name that actually has a windows key - like really ?
      "i want a camera in everybodys house this protects us from terrorists"
      "i also want a chip in your body that also makes us protect from terrorists"
      "and i want that chip to have a poison - so if a terrorists apears we just hit a button and the poison sets free"

    • @Ab-uno
      @Ab-uno Год назад +1

      Hay zombies, po tidas partes

  • @GrenPara
    @GrenPara Год назад +5

    Love your channel and videos thanks for making them.
    Wish you could do some common questions people are unsure about.
    Like can you plug in an HDD that has viruses on it to get some files off of it.
    Or a complex question. Like can you plug in a device that has virus built onto a chip in side it.
    Or how to check internet traffic from your pc to see what is being contacted outside your pc using a program Fiddler or other similar software.

  • @Diarmuhnd
    @Diarmuhnd Год назад +50

    Thank you @The PC Security Channel for all your help.

  • @AngriestEwok
    @AngriestEwok 8 месяцев назад +2

    Yeah thanks for sponsoring this video Neeva. Neeva? You there.... oh, they're dead. That didn't take long.

  • @gregritferdjr
    @gregritferdjr Год назад +253

    This may also boost your pc speeds aswell since it’s doing much less background processing

  • @wpistol
    @wpistol Год назад +9

    Love this. I remember when we could go into the ports and shut down all unneeded ports to strangle connections we didn't want. I have windows 2000 running still and it's locked down to the max.

  • @Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt
    @Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt Год назад +24

    you guys realize , this is a issue i have tried to tackle for the last ten years with a firewall and never could quite accomplish . HOLY SHIIIIIIT why did it take this long to get this video

    • @df3yt
      @df3yt Год назад +1

      Tiny firewall works great

    • @Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt
      @Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt Год назад

      @@df3yt I have had fun with it before , but it was very out dated at the time , do you know if the dev's have done anything with it recently?

    • @df3yt
      @df3yt Год назад +1

      @@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt Not much in terms of UI but when adding exceptions eg steam it does say stuff like "would you like to add recommended steam settings" this means other steam dependencies. Means less breakage. There's not a windows install I have that doesn't have TinyFW on. It means no need for all these other settings. Quick couple mb download - block all except a few and done.

  • @FarnhamJ07
    @FarnhamJ07 Год назад +17

    Thanks for the well made, straightforward video; you're a lifesaver! I jumped ship back when Windows 10 autoinstalled, been pretty lost with what to do when my mama calls up worried about this kinda stuff. If only I could get her to try out Debian!

  • @TheGunmanChannel
    @TheGunmanChannel Год назад +39

    I stopped Windows spying by installing Linux mint 🙂
    Now as a RUclipsr I just need to learn how to use a Linux video editing program.

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +23

      Try Davinci Resolve, steep learning curve, but usable once you figure it out.

    • @TheGunmanChannel
      @TheGunmanChannel Год назад +10

      @@pcsecuritychannel I can't believe I got a reply from you mate, thanks. Love your channel!!

    • @fargeeks
      @fargeeks Год назад

      @@TheGunmanChannel yeah da Vinci dude!
      It actually lets you edit videos the way professional editors do with movies
      Such as inserting yourself into a actual 4k movie scene like Harry Potter and making it seem as if you're actually in it
      With the right equipment you could literally be actual movie creator and director
      You're looking at about $250 or more for the software however you can also use the trial version but you will need to purchase and download the full version because that's when they will give you a activation code by email , not through the trial version
      Anyway afterwards it's paid for
      Or there's adobe premiere in which RUclipsrs like Markiplier uses but however that software has a monthly payment for use though so basically you can only rent it

    • @TheGunmanChannel
      @TheGunmanChannel Год назад +4

      @@fargeeks thanks a lot for the advice, I'll take the time to learn DaVinci Resolve. It's a great feeling to be moving away from Windows 🙂

    • @TheDanikReals
      @TheDanikReals Год назад

      There is Kdenlive, shotcut and olive video editor which are great free video editors for Linux

  • @kylekim-pewpewfuntimes69
    @kylekim-pewpewfuntimes69 Год назад +1

    Glad the algorithm suggested this video. I need to run O&O on all my PCs now.

  • @aaronmicalowe
    @aaronmicalowe Год назад +6

    The way I stopped Microsoft spying was to install Windows Ghost Spectre Windows 11 Superlite. My laptop has never run so smoothly.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      I installed compact because I was afraid superlite would cut down features and still had some issues turning everything back on so I advise to get the normal version (compact) for most people. Not superlite unless you have a potato netbook of course.

  • @pcsoftonline8173
    @pcsoftonline8173 Год назад +1

    Excelent video. My cooler was buzzing very bad because the cpu was up to 100% in many cases. Now it did stop, I have silence again (I used O&O)

  • @pierreborine9629
    @pierreborine9629 Год назад +4

    Advertising a privacy focused search engine on Edge in a video about Microsoft spying on their users is kind of weird x)

  • @jeremyf1901
    @jeremyf1901 Год назад +2

    I’m so glad I subbed to this channel. I’m doing this today.

  • @Derp__
    @Derp__ Год назад +36

    Please make a version where you check other windows OS for telemetry data like Windows Spectre! would love to see something like that. keep up the great content either way!!

    • @lylluzzos
      @lylluzzos Год назад

      Never used the second tool in the video, and the one you mentioned, I'm gonna try them soon.
      I use mainly ShutUp10 and WPD (even if the last version is more than a year ago old).
      I also use hijackthis, an old tool that was abandoned years ago but a new developer is updating it.
      Even Winaero Tweaker contains some options related to the privacy (and a lot of Windows tweaking, of course).
      Somebody else can suggest similar software?

    • @soufmaro502
      @soufmaro502 Год назад

      it is going this way
      network card -> windows -> ndis engine (network card manager) -> wireguard place here
      so what windows can do is
      network card -> windows -> (oh no windows decided to filter out that connection, streams,transfer, whatever it was) -> no ndis engine -> no wireguard catching the information
      the other way around
      network card -> windows -> (decide to transmit this information or not - ok yes i dont care this to be seen - transmit it to) -> ndis -> wireguard see it

  • @technocrats2360
    @technocrats2360 Год назад +2

    Really a much needed video pls make more like this

  • @klwthe3rd
    @klwthe3rd Год назад +6

    Awesome video. But if you make all the changes under local machine do you have to go back and switch these settings for current user too?

  • @migsvensurfing6310
    @migsvensurfing6310 3 месяца назад

    One other nice function in the O&O software is... if you start it and Windows (f.ex. after an update) has changed a setting it will highlight it (or them) for you and give you the possibility to change them to your settings with one click. I love that piece of software and have used it for years.

  • @5poolcatrush
    @5poolcatrush Год назад +5

    Please analyze ghostpectre windows build with that DNS stuff, it is kinda weird that it was not included in your ghostspecre review as it was with that new laptop. It is needed to know if ghostspectre is actually better

  • @WildNatureForce
    @WildNatureForce 4 месяца назад

    I think most people will need a video about what it is safe to turn off on windows 10 and the possible consecuences. Or at least the teaching of the most safe options to turn off and what is for advance user, so the mayority can set on the safe options and move on.

  • @171151
    @171151 Год назад +24

    You might have to reapply the configs once in a while when Windows Updates force some settings to default

    • @soufmaro502
      @soufmaro502 Год назад

      that´s the number 1 what they can use as a open door
      it is going this way
      network card -> windows -> ndis engine (network card manager) -> wireguard place here
      so what windows can do is
      network card -> windows -> (oh no windows decided to filter out that connection, streams,transfer, whatever it was) -> no ndis engine -> no wireguard catching the information
      the other way around
      network card -> windows -> (decide to transmit this information or not - ok yes i dont care this to be seen - transmit it to) -> ndis -> wireguard see it
      that tpm chip is making sure windows is getting this mechanism (and blocks others that could be your firewall just looking what windows is doing with your connecions)
      maybe we should make a question if we can see what is inside that tpm chip - open source
      but i guess they have something to hide at this place
      we knew that something was wrong microsoft offering windows 10 for free
      ruclips.net/video/RutDZMCjkMs/видео.html
      now we know what it is
      that video by the way is still up to date
      and 1 more thing i have seen nothing to turn that automatic updates off
      its a placebo pill
      what says "you can turn off automatic updates"

    • @lPlanetarizado
      @lPlanetarizado Год назад +3

      yes, i have found that when apps in android or windows update, they enable things you disabled

  • @Neckername1
    @Neckername1 Год назад

    I will say this. Log collection is very useful if you know where and what to look at and how to utilize the info and the search/filters. If you use your system as a server or NAS of sorts and have ever realized your system is offline. The logs can be very helpful in figuring out why that happened. If a power failure, update, or system crash occurred. The logs will usually state such things along with pertinent info as to what caused the issue.
    It may not solve your problems, but it can definitely help make it easier and quicker to do so. Especially if you want to avoid any foolish errands!

  • @M_Pingouin
    @M_Pingouin Год назад +7

    Absolutey brilliant. I was hoping for a guide like this. Thank you!

  • @joeyf504327
    @joeyf504327 Год назад +2

    My own personal machine I use ESET with the interactive firewall and anything that pops-up that I do not actively use gets permanently blocked.

  • @gregbirger5810
    @gregbirger5810 Год назад +10

    You know what would be interesting? Doing this same telemetry leakage analysis on a properly installed copy of Windows Ameliorated Edition. Install properly, fully offline, complete the amelioration process, then use O&O ShutUp10 and Spybot Anti-beacon, then wireshark the traffic upon first being brought online. There's so much of Windows guts ripped out on Windows AME such as Defender, Cortana, Edge, Update, that it would be fascinating to see how effective this process is at removing / limiting Microsoft's spyware activities.

  • @alensufli
    @alensufli 6 месяцев назад

    I also liked this video bcs he managed to highlight the like section with rainbow effect at the same time when he said "please like and share"...How cool is that!

  • @A-Gaming-Memory
    @A-Gaming-Memory Год назад +7

    Very very informative video! Thank you! 🥰🥰

  • @TomBudin
    @TomBudin Год назад

    thank you for this video very informative!

  • @TheMyname707
    @TheMyname707 Год назад +4

    Just thank you for your work!!!

  • @prowler1567
    @prowler1567 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the security info. I will refer back to this for reference. Excellent how to.

  • @dominic.h.3363
    @dominic.h.3363 Год назад +9

    Winaero Tweaker looks superior to "Ultimate" Windows Tweaker for several reasons. The UI is a lot easier to navigate while it offers largely the same options BUT Winaero offers an entire tab tracking the changes made, where they can easily be undone.

  • @robertl6442
    @robertl6442 Год назад +1

    Great video! You have a few videos on how to disable aspects of telemetry on windows 11. Would you by chance have a recommendation / best video / most current for a completely new windows 11 user to use?

  • @nickhigh100
    @nickhigh100 Год назад +3

    It would be nice to have a list of the GPO’s so we could do it across a environment.

  • @shapiroezra
    @shapiroezra Год назад +1

    Incredibly awesome video. Thank you so much!

  • @slomosapien1337
    @slomosapien1337 Год назад +4

    Hey what about Safing Portmaster? It's an incredibly useful application firewall that has options for blocking telemetry/spyware domains etc

  • @giokaios
    @giokaios Год назад

    I have an old institutional email that I want to completely remove from my pc but on manage accounts I don't have the delete option? How can I delete that account from my computer?

  • @Sackrelije
    @Sackrelije Год назад +30

    Very helpful video! I'm a little confused at how O&O Shutup and Ultimate Windows Tweaker seem to have overlapping settings especially in regards to disabling telemetry. Do you need both to maximize de-bloating or can you do just fine using only O&O? (Ultimate Windows Tweaker in this video seemed more about restoring windows UI functionality, but I won't be touching W11 for as long as the Earth is round)

    • @Kedvespatikus
      @Kedvespatikus Год назад +2

      Offtopic: is Earth round, or spherical? Or, probably (just probably) flat? :)

    • @Sackrelije
      @Sackrelije Год назад +15

      @@Kedvespatikus 🥚as long as the simulation is stable & rendering, God help us when reality starts to-

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +28

      Not all the settings overlap, that's why I mentioned both, but for the ones that do, you don't need to apply the tweaks in another if you've already done it in one.

    • @Sackrelije
      @Sackrelije Год назад +2

      @@pcsecuritychannel Ah ok, gotcha 👍

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 Год назад +1

      @@Kedvespatikus - Earth is described as an oblate spheroid according to the scientists who are into that sort of thing (I used to work with some guys like that).

  • @BRANDONLEZZGO
    @BRANDONLEZZGO Год назад

    I was running Malwarbytes firewall control and was blown away by how many windows processes where phoneing home

  • @PK-kp2fb
    @PK-kp2fb Год назад +3

    Love your stuff it educate me a lot about pc

  • @ashystyle
    @ashystyle Год назад +1

    This is great! Knew about this but still appreciate it.

  • @apexfinity
    @apexfinity Год назад +7

    There already is a custom windows 11 build that removes everything. O&O uses policy and registry tweaks, which can be turned on during an update (personal experience)

    • @SuperNoticer
      @SuperNoticer Год назад

      Where would we find it?

    • @theclearsounds3911
      @theclearsounds3911 Год назад

      Are you talking about Ghost Spectre? I'd love to hear what people think of that build. I successfully installed it on one of my computers, but I really have no idea yet if it turned off ALL the spyware, nor do I know how to keep the spyware turned off. Yea, I figured that I can't do a Windows update under ANY circumstances.

    • @apexfinity
      @apexfinity Год назад

      @@theclearsounds3911 bot lmfao

    • @soufmaro502
      @soufmaro502 Год назад

      @@apexfinity well do it stop the 3 , anti virus, windows firewall and automatic updates
      can you proof they unprogrammed out of windows ? seems rather a mission impossible
      or is it just up to date so it wont do that for
      someone should proof that these are fully turned off and not even partly active

    • @apexfinity
      @apexfinity Год назад +1

      @@soufmaro502 Windows being Windows, somehow turns back on during an update. Maybe detects something unusual with enterprise policies on a consumer OS?

  • @Dayemon
    @Dayemon Год назад

    Love how on the O&O Shut up website is "Microsoft Partner" certified

  • @Romanitto
    @Romanitto Год назад +5

    One thing i don't understand and probably will never do is why those options we don't get asked when we install Windows 10/11 ? Why did you pay for Windows and still have shity data collectors on the background? 😰

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Год назад +2

      THEY don't WANT you to know or give the option to turn it off. THEY want the data

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      Because EU hasn't sued them enough to do it, mostly focused on anti-monopoly laws that in this case don't help much (EU version of windows used to remove bundled media player, like it's a questionable improvement).

  • @PetrSUsername
    @PetrSUsername Год назад

    Is it the same o&o that did defragment tool 20 years ago? Loved them.

  • @donflamingo795
    @donflamingo795 6 месяцев назад +3

    The reason I'm looking at this right now is because Window telemetry leeched SO MUCH of my CPU usage. And I have old laptop so this is annoying. Didn't know it is actually THIS BAD. Thank you for this video.

  • @Silent_poet
    @Silent_poet Год назад +1

    Dualbooted Ghost spectre 11 and Linux and never looked back :)

  • @Zheraan
    @Zheraan Год назад +22

    Could you do an analysis on system overhead for the different antivirus ? As in, how much resources do they use, because sometimes you want to run them on machines with limited resources or on PCs where performance matters (eg. gaming PCs).
    Also, I noticed you included links to the tools you described in the video, which is great. It was not always the case for previous videos, and as downloading things from the internet may be unsafe it is good to have the proper links.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      On weak PC either use default Windows Defender and nothing else, or turn even that off and only launch on-demand antivirus, any external one will have extreme load on resources for no real profit if you know what you do.

  • @teddybear4020
    @teddybear4020 Год назад +1

    WOW SPOT ON . GREAT . I WILL LOOK INTO IT

  • @klekaelly
    @klekaelly Год назад +3

    Careful running any software that might be detected by anti-cheat if you like to play games.

    • @Akab
      @Akab Год назад +3

      Or just don't play those games and profit 😁

    • @klekaelly
      @klekaelly Год назад

      @@Akab GaMeS r BaD fOr YoU

    • @Akab
      @Akab Год назад +1

      @@klekaelly didn't say that. Just giving a different option 😁
      You could also just play different games for example, although I didn't say you have to, because that's up to you.
      I'm just a random guy on the Internet, so how could I dictate as to what you can or can not do? 👍
      (edit: typos)

  • @df224
    @df224 4 месяца назад +1

    What is the website address? The link you provide says Microsoft Partner? Thank you

  • @nonetrix3066
    @nonetrix3066 Год назад +3

    Could you compare normal Windows 10 pro and Windows 10 LTSC with the normally available setting disabled? Then debloat both and compare again. I would really like to see this

  • @EnejJohhem
    @EnejJohhem Год назад +4

    That's what I've been doing, since switching is impossible because of a lot of specific program required by my job.
    But I do manually update once a month.

  • @adamdion7574
    @adamdion7574 Год назад

    All this stuff running constantly behind our backs, makes me wonder how much performance we can really get back by switching all that crap off

  • @jer1776
    @jer1776 Год назад +16

    Good stuff, Ive dabled in Linux but continue to use Windows as my daily driver because I'm a gamer. Seems much easier to debloat Windows than make a full transition to Linux.

    • @User-lz2xu
      @User-lz2xu Год назад +2

      gaming is easy on linux

    • @Kxvito
      @Kxvito Год назад +6

      @@User-lz2xu No it’s not

    • @Sivarajansam931
      @Sivarajansam931 Год назад +4

      It is getting better . on single player most of them work. Kernel level anti cheats are not working.also some anti-cheat games did not enable linux support. Only reason why windows is better for games is because games are made to work with windows properly. If games are made for linux as well natively, Linux will beat Windows due to optimizations.

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 Год назад

      Depends on the games. Everything I play seems fine on Linux so far, but I'm only one week into it. Haven't booted up Windows 10 at all, and I doubt I'll need to.

    • @jer1776
      @jer1776 Год назад

      @OrdinaryHuman Most online games with anti cheat software aren't too fond of linux unfortunately

  • @ThunderFarter
    @ThunderFarter День назад

    I've spend 90 million on the Archfield lost it all and still have it

  • @Kevin-sg8jq
    @Kevin-sg8jq Год назад +3

    is this different from the de-bloating software that disables telemetry too? or is this better?

  • @1SGPARKER
    @1SGPARKER Год назад +1

    Very interesting video. I bookmarked it for future reference! I'm subscribed, I liked this video, and I'll share it.

  • @Sacredaum
    @Sacredaum Год назад +3

    When I see those videos about security recommending the X tool, or the Y tool, I always think "ok bui what if this tools are a vulnerability too? what if this tools are also spying on me? half of them usually dont even pass o virustotal"

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +6

      You have to look at each application individually, these don't even persist on your system so once you close them, they're gone, but if you instead prefer to distrust everything not made by (insert favorite company here) don't be surprised when that same monopoly doesn't care about you as a user. Some of the largest companies like Avast, Fortinet etc, yes, even Microsoft, have had serious security problems. Remember WannaCry autoinstalling through the network (that was all Microsoft SMB). Spreading the view you that you shouldn't trust anybody else cause of all the security dangers but somehow trust them with more and more despite their endless screwups is very profitable for someone, and it isn't the user.

    • @Sacredaum
      @Sacredaum Год назад +1

      @@pcsecuritychannel I really understand your point and I agree with you because I imagine your perspective, but try to see mine just for one moment: I'm a simple developer that doesnt understand as much as you do and I think most of the people here also does not. What I know is general concepts that allows me to see that what you do in videos makes sense for example.: I know what wireshark is and what is does but I dont know how to use it. I know what virustotal is but I dont really knows how it works inside. I know registry although I dont really know how to check it. And that's precisely the issue. If you use a tool you have 30 different ways of instantly check if it is bad or not. If I have to use a tool I am limited to other tools like virustotal and content made about this like your channel itself. Let me be clear on something: I agree with you when you distrust this companies and what you do in you videos I would love to be able to do so that's why I watch them. But when you say in a video to use something like dumpit that turns virustotal crazy I dont have the same options that you do to feel safe using it. It really sucks to have to "trust" microsoft but the other option is some shady tool that nobody really knows that have admin access to my registry. Maybe this will make you think I'm a hater or just really dumb, but maybe it will give you some ideas of videos in the future too. I really like your content man. I really do. Hopefully you understand this is not an attack but a honest viewer concern that maybe more people watching this may share too.

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +3

      It’s not your fault, that’s the culture we are moving towards, but it definitely gives me some video ideas so people feel comfortable being able to analyse and use tools based on their own confidence. :)

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      @@Sacredaum It's impossible to be 100% sure of everything, human society is based on trust and faith, you may not trust corporations or government in general, but you put enough faith into them to buy, say, store food without expecting to be poisoned, correct? Like we don't use personal food tasters before eating like old kings... you TRUST the suppliers and you have to put some trust into software too, otherwise you end up like those crazy preppers living in mud huts with a shotgun and fertilizing their crops with their own crap.

  • @madeofnapalm
    @madeofnapalm 28 дней назад

    I'm a bit confused that the first thing on the O&O page is "Microsoft Partner" 😬😬

  • @Tempires
    @Tempires Год назад +5

    these shutup settings marked "yes" are just normal windows settings. "disable tracking on web " for Edge as example just means enabling Do not track request which website can just ignore and it is not even meant to stop MS tracking you

  • @Satyam1010-N
    @Satyam1010-N Год назад +1

    What process are running in task manager how many which one I have gaming laptop and my game doesn't eat much but not required processing starts .

  • @Goasler
    @Goasler Год назад +2

    OMG thanks, that what i have waited for

  • @mapu1
    @mapu1 Год назад +2

    Kinda irrelevant, they reset everything after every update, so you get your data skimmed every time you update anyways.

  • @fl3kbot547
    @fl3kbot547 Год назад +3

    question : i already run shutup10 since a long time but im wandering if its useful to used both softwares on a single machine, thx for your very helpful videos

  • @oneilc818
    @oneilc818 Год назад +2

    Done and done. Thanks!

  • @Lila_UrarakaYT
    @Lila_UrarakaYT Год назад +36

    Neeva will not hesitate to hand over your history to the authorities if they are asked too

    • @Mario583a
      @Mario583a Год назад +2

      Thats what subpoenas are for.

    • @Lila_UrarakaYT
      @Lila_UrarakaYT Год назад +9

      @@Mario583a that’s also what proper encryption is for, the law is, if they can access it, then they have too give it up, if they can’t, then tough luck

    • @iseptimus
      @iseptimus Год назад

      Use AdGuard DNS to stop even more. My reporting shows ms collects more telemetry than google!

  • @zuzoscorner
    @zuzoscorner 8 месяцев назад +2

    Microsoft: Where the product is YOU

  • @ForGamezCZ
    @ForGamezCZ Год назад +8

    No one should be running Pro/Home even with this privacy tweak.
    All people should run Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC or server editions (but this comes with some issues), you should make a video about it!
    You can try it legally for free if I'm not mistaken

    • @callisoncaffrey
      @callisoncaffrey Год назад +9

      You mean all people should be running free and open-source software. Then all the software would be written for it too, and the addicts could still play their video games without being taken advantage of. Spy ware wouldn't be the norm. We won't be ending up in a social credit system. Ah ... the possibilities.

    • @ForGamezCZ
      @ForGamezCZ Год назад +4

      @@callisoncaffrey yup

    • @callisoncaffrey
      @callisoncaffrey Год назад +3

      @@ForGamezCZ I said exactly the opposite of what you said, but I'm glad you came around in the end.

    • @ForGamezCZ
      @ForGamezCZ Год назад +2

      @@callisoncaffrey oh ye that's true haha but I myself use Linux and open source stuff so I agree

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      @@callisoncaffrey You sound like a conspiracy nutjob, what the F American Microsoft has to do Chinese social credit system FFS?! You need help...

  • @mind-of-neo
    @mind-of-neo Год назад +1

    I only use windows 11 on a desktop i use solely for gaming; it is supposed to be my "shut off brain and stop caring so i can have fun" device but i STILL find myself getting frustrated at windows 11's hyper-controlling nature.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад +1

      It does need a dremel applied to it for use, but after Win10 HORRIBLE UI, the ease of Bluetooth and Sound Device switching in 11 just makes it better for Steam. Of course, hopefully Valve will help make Linux gaming more realistic. As they are slowly doing now.

  • @Kedvespatikus
    @Kedvespatikus Год назад +26

    I stopped Windows spying on me more than three years ago. Permanently. Switched to another OS. Guess which.
    The problem with doing all these tweaks and hacks is that you get an update and everything gets restored, so you can start over and over again. Microsoft simply does not respect user space and user privacy for the user's money they charge for their OS.

    • @compscidoggo
      @compscidoggo Год назад +2

      Which distro?

    • @Kedvespatikus
      @Kedvespatikus Год назад +2

      @@compscidoggo Manjaro KDE

    • @jotsa
      @jotsa Год назад

      @@Kedvespatikus try out endeavouros, it's similar but the dev team is much better

    • @Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt
      @Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt Год назад

      yep and bill gates is a pos so goes hand in hand

    • @murphlmao
      @murphlmao Год назад +3

      If you actually tried these, you would know that o&o reverts all of your settings if you open it up after an update lol.

  • @Sollace
    @Sollace Год назад +2

    4:20 I typically kept location services off, until I discovered Windows needs it to update your timezone when you travel to another country. Funz! :'D

  • @henrymach
    @henrymach Год назад +9

    Have you tried Chris Titus' debloating script?

  • @luioskattusch3497
    @luioskattusch3497 Год назад +1

    Exactly what I needed. Thanks so much

  • @allensword1855
    @allensword1855 Год назад +2

    I love that this tool is available, but it's not gonna convince me to switch away from Linux Mint. Steam proton and Wine make running games and Windows programs on Linux a breeze, and it's completely free with a fully customizable UI and simple design that's very reminiscent of early windows.

    • @st.altair4936
      @st.altair4936 Год назад +2

      So weird how people will go out of their way to use a bloated mess of an operating system when Linux exists.

    • @chrisdawson1776
      @chrisdawson1776 Год назад

      @@st.altair4936Keep crying

    • @st.altair4936
      @st.altair4936 Год назад +1

      @@chrisdawson1776 😭😭😭

    • @chrisdawson1776
      @chrisdawson1776 Год назад

      @@st.altair4936 🤓

  • @raynnusvettmore
    @raynnusvettmore Год назад +1

    I got a SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION BSOD after using OOSU10. Do you happen to know which option causes this problem?

  • @RicardoSantos-oz3uj
    @RicardoSantos-oz3uj Год назад +19

    And of course everything will be re-enabled on the next patch. Two choices to avoid the spyware. 1. Use an older windows (windws 7 comes to mind). or dump windows.

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  Год назад +19

      Not really, Group policy and registry tweaks aren’t reversed in every update. Even if a major update does re-enable them you can use the config file to fix it in like 2 seconds.

    • @kn0wvuh
      @kn0wvuh Год назад

      Disable windows update too

    • @Sypaka
      @Sypaka Год назад

      The problem is, If you run a Ryzen, Windows 7 won't do much.
      When I upgraded my Rig to a Ryzen, Windows 7 started to BSOD. Even a fresh install would work, but on the next reboot BSOD. If this wasn't an issue, I wouldn't use WIndows 10.

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 Год назад

      @@Sypaka just get i7-3770k, if you do only office work, it's enough

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      @@warrax111 I have Xeon equivalent of 4770, it's extremely outdated, but with a decent graphics card and running of SSD I can easily play modern games at full FPS and high graphics and can do 4k for older ones with no issues. BUT it was pain to upgrade. There's NO reason to use Intel anymore, I am mad I didn't build on AM4 years ago as AMD can be upgraded forever and intel are stuck on generation because sockets keep changing. Also using Windows 7 or 8 you can't even update Chrome, or install desktop version of Viber. Half the software doesn't work. You can't even WORK on it normally... it's slow as hell. So don't bother with old Windows versions unless it's a novelty offline machine for old games kind of like LGR used to do.

  • @luisfnunes
    @luisfnunes Год назад

    just as a curiosity.. it takes a phD in IT to get to the right download link in the ultimate windows tweaker web page.....

  • @joepjoep9531
    @joepjoep9531 Год назад +5

    A little hard not to use it if you need it for work on a daily basis hehe just don’t use sounds simple but it isn’t

    • @jotsa
      @jotsa Год назад

      haven't watched the video yet but if you're talking about not using windows, what software do you use that doesn't run on linux?

    • @joepjoep9531
      @joepjoep9531 Год назад

      @@jotsa ever heard about companies running windows. I can use both but now you know what I mean. We have to maintain 3000+ workspaces.

    • @jotsa
      @jotsa Год назад

      @@joepjoep9531 ooh you meant it like that, yeah thats a bit of a problem

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Год назад

      @@joepjoep9531 Yep...but that's usually cuz the management doesn't know anything...set up a test rig and do a presentation...then explain the cost savings without licenses...then discuss how Virtually ALL of the major cloud corporations are on linux...then there's all the other countries switching all their gov and schools away from WIN to Linux

  • @pascal831
    @pascal831 7 месяцев назад +2

    I just installed LINUX.
    Goodbye Microsoft.

  • @ebaystars
    @ebaystars Год назад

    oh no I clicked on this channel now the Shadowy knows I am looking to secure my system eeeek!

  • @nully.emptier
    @nully.emptier Год назад +4

    O&O anf firewall are great tools, but most Windows users forget about DNS queries, which can be easily stopped with hosts file

    • @notjustforhackers4252
      @notjustforhackers4252 Год назад +3

      This did work on Windows back in the day but since Windows 10 Microsoft doesn't respect the hosts file list when trying to block certain domains, like theirs. Couple of video's about that on YT.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      @@notjustforhackers4252 specifically in Win10 I had major issues when I got a bunch of sites blocked via hosts and other cases I cleared it and now it only has programs phoning home like Adobe in it. For free software like Photoshop and Windows, the last thing I want is for them to phone back to the company.

  • @airadve
    @airadve 9 месяцев назад +1

    could you compare windows 10 to more versions of windows (and windows 11) such as vista or 7? would like to see the progression of all this

  • @Kommentierer
    @Kommentierer Год назад +3

    Why is telemetry considered to be evil? From a developers perspective, telemetry is a great tool to find out what is going wrong without having the user to write a decent error report (and most windows users won't be able to do that tbh).
    Can you prove that telemetry transmits data, that should not be transmitted?

    • @ababcb3005
      @ababcb3005 Год назад +6

      The problem is that there's very little oversight or transparency into what's there or how it's used. I don't trust it by default, just as I don't automatically assume that a file is safe to run just because I can't prove that it doesn't have a virus.

    • @Kommentierer
      @Kommentierer Год назад

      Thank you, that sounds reasonable. But still I am interested, what is being transmitted.

    • @marinlos
      @marinlos Год назад +3

      If MS only used data to improve the system and made clear what data is gathering it wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that they collect a lot of data, doesn't specify what they collect or how they use it and even worse, they share that information with third parties, I think that's extremely disrespectful, shady and greedy, since they anyway charge for the license, I don't see the need to get data to get even more profit

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy Год назад

      @@Kommentierer If you actually knew...you'd have an issue with it...why would they hide it ALL...till courts forced them to start giving some options to turn off??? Problem is they hide everything and sell it making money on you and getting your personal info out there

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 2 месяца назад

      It's a HUGE resource hog on Windows and slows down potatoes 90% of the world uses. Conspiracy nuts will say it sends your pet pics to global ZORG offices to make adrenal alacrity but sane people just see Microsoft Telemetry using 50% of your CPU and running for 15 minutes on boot not to mention uncalled for updates ruining your work flow, and we want it gone. And yeah it also feels dirty them selling data to advertisers, not paying you a cent back. Steam at least ASKS when you agree to free hardware survey.

  • @AnthoJoh
    @AnthoJoh Год назад +1

    So this video is geared towards the inexperienced user or someone not comfortable modifying the registry on their own. Ide like to see a advanced companion video that doesnt use a 3rd party program and provides all the registry locations and what option to turn a feature on or off. Also for those that have the pro version of the OS what gpedit options to go to. So for example in O&O program the option "Disable sharing of handwritten date", where in the registry is that located and where in gpedit?