Most of these little APU game boxes are the same. They're cool af, but then when I go to the store page, I'm put off by the price. Why would anyone pay over $700 for this when you can build or price a system with discrete graphics for that much? This needs to be like $400.
It's such a cute system, but at the price it's asking you could build a slightly bigger PC with yonks more power, or a whole steam deck which is a self contained game system for £140 less.
I have actually seen on Amazon Japan a bunch of ryzen 7735hs going for between 350-500 pounds, with coupon codes, (512gb ssd 16gb ram) 7735hs is the same as 7840hs just lower tdp and base clock Delivery charge is good at 10 pounds 2 week turn around
dreaming of mini PCs ever since but then realized mini-itx and sfx have come a long way too. a DIY desktop mini-itx maybe costs half of this with similar or more performance.
Maybe not half the price, but i recently priced up a few decent Ryzen 5, Micro ATX w/GPU combos for about two thirds the price and 1080p Ultra performance. I find it hard to get excited about anything that can only do 1080p/low tbh despite the impressive advancements.
@@adamwhitehouse4025 right, not exactly half. I checked just now from Newegg, I came up with $483.12 using a 5600G. $300 less vs the Beelink. for more graphics power, spend the difference for a used RX 580, or new RX6600
they can't. there's patent issues for the back buttons and it's doubtful they'd bring out a steam controller that doesn't have the same layout as the deck.
Gotta ask, why? I got one bundled with the Steam Link, and gotta say, both were terrible. Steam Link was a pain to use, had (and still has) all sorts of issues that make it not worth using, and the controller was nearly (though not quite) as much of a train wreck. The touch pads with the weird haptic feedback stuff, that also failed to feel effective as a mouse replacement, so they may as well have just been standard thumbsticks, the strange feel of the paddles on the back, strange shape that may have helped with access to the touchpads but made it awkward to hold, I just don't see why anyone would want them back. If they just made a controller in the style of the Steam Deck I'd happily take it, as most issues are fixed and the touchpads don't replace important components, but the original Steam Controller is one of the worst controllers I've ever had the displeasure of using.
@@Sin_Alderthe controller wasn't designed to replace the mouse persa, it was more to play mouse dependent game from the sofa. Which it did really well.
You sure are asking a lot from an ETA Prime video. If you want actual substance, he's not your guy. He just throws shit together real fast so he can get more videos up.
That's a tad harsh n unecessary,he may not do extreme deepdives but his content is unique n I do enjoy it,I've learnt a tone from this channel so in as much as I may not get some stuff that I'd like I'd still watch his videos,also I prefer short but informative videos just as much as long ones
i wish steam would just package the steam deck as a mini PC with their OS. they can take out the screen and the controller and keep everything else. I would buy that.
Please @ETAPRIME please let us know the costs of these systems. You are really a line of defense for us who don't just go into stores and take whatever is on the top shelf. I thank you for that.
Why would he want to do that? He wants you to click the link for the commission! It’s right there in the description. For anyone wondering, it’s $750 🤮
@@garrusvakarian8709 yea, looking back at all his videos, all the devices he featured never gets any issues called out... most of them are chinese devices, breaks on arrival or after a few months with no support...basically paper weight after a few months... happened with my retroid pocket 3+ and now this freaking gtr7
@@Paraclef This doesn't even have a battery ? Buy PS4 or 5 or handheld faster, better mobility. Or a real PC with monitor and still undercut that. Or a gaming laptop😂
@@yk-lt5bs OK, you are a bad person, teenager i mean, maybe under 12 actually, in fact. People WORK, not only ""game". You have more possibilities with a mini pc compared to a laptop. Same with portable monitors or mini projectors.
When you OC the system focus on the RAM first. Systems with LPDDR5 are coming and those will be faster but ai like to be able to swap ram sticks myself.
Congratulations, and perhaps Chimera OS on the tittle would take more attention to this video. Even many people are using Chimera OS on Steam Decks, because they prefer normal GNU/Linux to permanent ones, being able to install more software without surprises after updates, there are no a lot of videos comparing Steam OS vs Chimera OS vs MS WOS on Steam Decks plus the new ASUS Ally Chimera OS vs MS WOS, and perhaps they would have a public.
You have the wrong idea. ChimeraOS uses a similar A/B atomic update system as SteamOS does and has the same limitations in terms of installing software.
@ÃTrollÄššÑigga That's tight. I'm more into the smallest form factor with the best IGPU I can get. But having that option for an external GPU use is great.
Imagine Steam OS adding support for streaming apps so you could have an xbox+androidTV/AppleTV like experience once SteamOS is officially launched on non steam hardware, or heck, the steamdeck isnt that much more expensive than a Shield TV pro and its way more powerful. I have been upset for a long time with the performance of various TV boxes, even on my 1080p TV in my kitchen, my Shield Pro is constantly crashing or needing to be restarted and doesnt stream well(when the PC next to it can stream from the same gaming PC in my basement just fine, with all 3 wired to the same switch) Imagine getting the same functionality, but with a 7640u 16GB of LPDDR5, and a 256GB SSD and a slot to add more. That would be a great little HTPC for not much more than a Shield Pro, but way more performance, and a much larger game library.
Steam OS should be more efficient, but the problem is that its games have to go through a translation layer. If it was running a game natively it would definitely outperform Windows, but due to being slowed down by the translation layer it’s only about equal. Still, the fact it can run equal to Windows even with a translation layer is a miracle.
@@inmaanmiraze6137 That's the price of the whole Framework 16 though. I'm talking about just the motherboard. We don't know how much that costs yet. TheAMD Ryzen 7840U motherboard (for FW13) is $700 currently, if that's something to predict pricing for the 7840HS by.
I am planning to use this Mini PC for video editing at 1080p, 5 mins with subtitles, basic effects (chroma, saturation, movement), background music + voice and some animations over the main video, how this would perform? Right now i am using a laptop (i5-9300h, single channel 16GB 2400 Mhz) and it lag as hell the previsualization at 270p (yeah) with 2 mins long edits
@@wesleyswafford2462 ur right his Laptops weakest link is the IntelHD graphics that the Videoediting is leaning on this MiniPC WOULD Definitely be faster but ur still asking ALOT of an integrated graphics chip
it's takes ages to load a game on HoloOS/ChimeraOS , from the moment you click Play is taking around 2-3 minutes until the game starts, this is happening all the time , instead on windows everything happens in seconds. i Tried both OS on Minis Forum HX99G maximum upgrade and it's rubbish.. windows 10 from my opinion it's better for gaming
This was an issue with the included Nvidia drivers which were somehow interfering with some AMD GPUs. We found a workaround and this will be fixed in the next release which is coming out imminently.
If you want maximum power/watt ratio, sleek looks or maybe to run MacOS, Mac mini wins. If you need ports, x86 compatibility or upgradability GTR wins. So, depends a lot on what you are going to do with it and your priorities..
Can It Do Ps3 and Switch 4k60? I can help but think that these mini pc while very cool are too expensive. you can get better performance with a pc build for around the same price with 32gigs of ram
@@kevindie I don't get what's your point. You can event spend around 30k and have better performance. but that's not what I am talking about. how does compare in price/performance against a similarity priced PC
why dont you freaking mention the graphic and ram issues with this unit in your testing? lots of ppl who got it gets random reboots every hour... i bought it based on this video and now i cant even play any games as it always reboots in less than 2hrs. the forum is full of consumers who got the problem... shame that it didnt get call out anbd btw, support from beelink is crap and tsakes forever to response
@@wesleyswafford2462 prices of GPUs went down significantly lately though, we are seeing 6700XT for 350$ now, and thats some of the better options, you can find solid card for 1080p for 200$ easily and thats if you go for new. If you are willing to go used (which I would consider) I reckon you can find solid card for 100$
Do you really play ANY of those games? You always show the first 1-2 minutes of those games and make conclusion. Do you always recommend a product as long as they send you a free unit? You know you make enough bucks through RUclips, please have some objective opinion, make some solid reviews of products for people who spent their hard earned money on
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Most of these little APU game boxes are the same. They're cool af, but then when I go to the store page, I'm put off by the price. Why would anyone pay over $700 for this when you can build or price a system with discrete graphics for that much? This needs to be like $400.
I feel the same as you.
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It's such a cute system, but at the price it's asking you could build a slightly bigger PC with yonks more power, or a whole steam deck which is a self contained game system for £140 less.
I have actually seen on Amazon Japan a bunch of ryzen 7735hs going for between 350-500 pounds, with coupon codes, (512gb ssd 16gb ram)
7735hs is the same as 7840hs just lower tdp and base clock
Delivery charge is good at 10 pounds 2 week turn around
Yep!
dreaming of mini PCs ever since but then realized mini-itx and sfx have come a long way too. a DIY desktop mini-itx maybe costs half of this with similar or more performance.
Tell me a build on par with this at $360 that would be a mini itx
Maybe not half the price, but i recently priced up a few decent Ryzen 5, Micro ATX w/GPU combos for about two thirds the price and 1080p Ultra performance.
I find it hard to get excited about anything that can only do 1080p/low tbh despite the impressive advancements.
@@adamwhitehouse4025 right, not exactly half. I checked just now from Newegg, I came up with $483.12 using a 5600G. $300 less vs the Beelink. for more graphics power, spend the difference for a used RX 580, or new RX6600
Easy to make claims. Parts list or didn't happen.
man i want them to bring the steam controller back so bad
yeah just with a second analog stick please
they can't. there's patent issues for the back buttons and it's doubtful they'd bring out a steam controller that doesn't have the same layout as the deck.
@@polocatfan yeah thats why im saying they should add a second analog
Gotta ask, why? I got one bundled with the Steam Link, and gotta say, both were terrible. Steam Link was a pain to use, had (and still has) all sorts of issues that make it not worth using, and the controller was nearly (though not quite) as much of a train wreck. The touch pads with the weird haptic feedback stuff, that also failed to feel effective as a mouse replacement, so they may as well have just been standard thumbsticks, the strange feel of the paddles on the back, strange shape that may have helped with access to the touchpads but made it awkward to hold, I just don't see why anyone would want them back. If they just made a controller in the style of the Steam Deck I'd happily take it, as most issues are fixed and the touchpads don't replace important components, but the original Steam Controller is one of the worst controllers I've ever had the displeasure of using.
@@Sin_Alderthe controller wasn't designed to replace the mouse persa, it was more to play mouse dependent game from the sofa. Which it did really well.
Was hopping for some RAW benchmarks(no fsr ),would be much easier to truelly gage the chip that way,thatsaid, awesome video as always
You sure are asking a lot from an ETA Prime video. If you want actual substance, he's not your guy. He just throws shit together real fast so he can get more videos up.
That's a tad harsh n unecessary,he may not do extreme deepdives but his content is unique n I do enjoy it,I've learnt a tone from this channel so in as much as I may not get some stuff that I'd like I'd still watch his videos,also I prefer short but informative videos just as much as long ones
i wish steam would just package the steam deck as a mini PC with their OS. they can take out the screen and the controller and keep everything else. I would buy that.
I ordered the GTR7 Pro 7940HS. Can't wait to game on it!
I hope you enjoy it
Good luck. Temps is over 95.
AMD launches Ryzen PRO 7000 65W desktop series, Ryzen 9 PRO 7945 features 12 Zen4 cores
Published: Jun 13th 2023,
Have you checked the ram temps when gaming? Saw another video saying they were over 95 degrees under load.
sauce?
TechTablets
LOL you expect ETA Prime to do REAL testing?
I just asked the same thing. That's really a deal breaker to me
That's not good, 95 is the upper limit for ddr5 temp.
Please @ETAPRIME please let us know the costs of these systems. You are really a line of defense for us who don't just go into stores and take whatever is on the top shelf. I thank you for that.
Why would he want to do that? He wants you to click the link for the commission! It’s right there in the description. For anyone wondering, it’s $750 🤮
@@garrusvakarian8709 yea, looking back at all his videos, all the devices he featured never gets any issues called out... most of them are chinese devices, breaks on arrival or after a few months with no support...basically paper weight after a few months... happened with my retroid pocket 3+ and now this freaking gtr7
Thanks for the video, interesting like always !
$800 seems steeped especially considering the price of the GMKTek and minisforum variant of the same chipset.
AMD launches Ryzen PRO 7000 65W desktop series, Ryzen 9 PRO 7945 features 12 Zen4 cores
Published: Jun 13th 2023,
Really 800? Who buys this stuff. For that price you can get a whole setup and have better performance than this.
@@yk-lt5bs MOBILITY
@@Paraclef This doesn't even have a battery ? Buy PS4 or 5 or handheld faster, better mobility.
Or a real PC with monitor and still undercut that. Or a gaming laptop😂
@@yk-lt5bs OK, you are a bad person, teenager i mean, maybe under 12 actually, in fact.
People WORK, not only ""game". You have more possibilities with a mini pc compared to a laptop.
Same with portable monitors or mini projectors.
4k 60fos, nice! My favorite video format
So I'm wondering if I get these mini pc will it be able to do as much as a laptop and desktop??? And will I play steam games???
Pls re visit your diy handheld projects. I'm into those things right now. Pretty envious of your variety of SBCs... 😅
Low availability here in PH.
Brother, you really need to update the games u show for performance. Do love your videos.
can you make a comparison against a minisforum high end mini pc?
Which Linux OS will be best for Gaming on?
I Love the UI of SteamOS and ChromeOS....
Wow Chimera OS is relevant again and its overtaking Holo ISO nice.
When you OC the system focus on the RAM first. Systems with LPDDR5 are coming and those will be faster but ai like to be able to swap ram sticks myself.
The price is quite expensive still for my liking... around 800 USD with tax probably or so...
half life 2 😂😂 gotta keep that in now do love the video and man this little system packs a punch
This or Dell Optiplex with RX6400?
Congratulations, and perhaps Chimera OS on the tittle would take more attention to this video.
Even many people are using Chimera OS on Steam Decks, because they prefer normal GNU/Linux to permanent ones, being able to install more software without surprises after updates, there are no a lot of videos comparing Steam OS vs Chimera OS vs MS WOS on Steam Decks plus the new ASUS Ally Chimera OS vs MS WOS, and perhaps they would have a public.
You have the wrong idea. ChimeraOS uses a similar A/B atomic update system as SteamOS does and has the same limitations in terms of installing software.
@@alkazar79 Sorry, perhaps I misread or misremembered something. And it was Nobara, or other gaming distro.
A Mini PC with the 780M and LPDDR5-7500MHZ. That's what I'm waiting on.
@ÃTrollÄššÑigga I'm already aware. Thanks, ATAN. What a great handle.
@ÃTrollÄššÑigga the Asus Ally runs rams @7500mhz.
@ÃTrollÄššÑigga the Asus Ally runs rams @7500mhz.
@@unknown183 lol
@ÃTrollÄššÑigga That's tight. I'm more into the smallest form factor with the best IGPU I can get. But having that option for an external GPU use is great.
Please make a comparison video on Beelink GTR 9 7940HS and Minisforum UM790 7940HS. I am confused about their configuration. Please 🙏
The description says Beelink SER7...
What about ram temps? I saw in another video that it gets really hot
Custom build RDNA3 APU desktop system is coming soon...
Please test+egpu 4k gaming 😊
Will this unit play starfield. Eve and other high end games
I would love to get a mini PC like this for traveling, but I primarily play rainbow six Siege which is not supported in Linux
Imagine Steam OS adding support for streaming apps so you could have an xbox+androidTV/AppleTV like experience once SteamOS is officially launched on non steam hardware, or heck, the steamdeck isnt that much more expensive than a Shield TV pro and its way more powerful.
I have been upset for a long time with the performance of various TV boxes, even on my 1080p TV in my kitchen, my Shield Pro is constantly crashing or needing to be restarted and doesnt stream well(when the PC next to it can stream from the same gaming PC in my basement just fine, with all 3 wired to the same switch)
Imagine getting the same functionality, but with a 7640u 16GB of LPDDR5, and a 256GB SSD and a slot to add more. That would be a great little HTPC for not much more than a Shield Pro, but way more performance, and a much larger game library.
PLease start adding Diablo IV to these boxes.
Is steam OS more efficient than windows? I remember someone saying they were about the same.
Steam OS should be more efficient, but the problem is that its games have to go through a translation layer. If it was running a game natively it would definitely outperform Windows, but due to being slowed down by the translation layer it’s only about equal. Still, the fact it can run equal to Windows even with a translation layer is a miracle.
Why don't valve release steamOS for other platforms? It would make them more money wouldn't it?
I think vavle wants to release a decent OS. Linux with Nvidia tho not bad is closed source and doesn't always play nice quite like amd.
So just get the rog ally or any amd 7840u handheld for steam os
is it possible to see some emulation on this mini pc mr. ETA PRIME? 😄
Nope. No time for that. Gotta churn out more mediocre videos. Quantity over quality, my dude.
Is this SteamVR ready? Can it run PCVR games ?
You said you'd leave a link for the windows version, but you didn't.
thanks
How do you change the Watts in BIOS?
I hope AMD will make these processors available to buy on their own. I'd like to make my own mini pc.
Yes, these companies will go bankrupt if the motherboards and and processors are made available to mass consumers
You can buy the Framework motherboard with the 7840HS or 7940HS as well as the Cooler master case (or 3D print your own).
@@TechieZeddie I tried. Framework is Damn expansive, over $2000
@@inmaanmiraze6137 That's the price of the whole Framework 16 though. I'm talking about just the motherboard. We don't know how much that costs yet. TheAMD Ryzen 7840U motherboard (for FW13) is $700 currently, if that's something to predict pricing for the 7840HS by.
Please test 4K gaming
I am planning to use this Mini PC for video editing at 1080p, 5 mins with subtitles, basic effects (chroma, saturation, movement), background music + voice and some animations over the main video, how this would perform? Right now i am using a laptop (i5-9300h, single channel 16GB 2400 Mhz) and it lag as hell the previsualization at 270p (yeah) with 2 mins long edits
@@wesleyswafford2462 ur right his Laptops weakest link is the IntelHD graphics that the Videoediting is leaning on this MiniPC WOULD Definitely be faster but ur still asking ALOT of an integrated graphics chip
AMD launches Ryzen PRO 7000 65W desktop series, Ryzen 9 PRO 7945 features 12 Zen4 cores
Published: Jun 13th 2023,
it's takes ages to load a game on HoloOS/ChimeraOS , from the moment you click Play is taking around 2-3 minutes until the game starts, this is happening all the time , instead on windows everything happens in seconds. i Tried both OS on Minis Forum HX99G maximum upgrade and it's rubbish.. windows 10 from my opinion it's better for gaming
This was an issue with the included Nvidia drivers which were somehow interfering with some AMD GPUs. We found a workaround and this will be fixed in the next release which is coming out imminently.
needed this review! wonder if its worth it over the Mac mini though!
If you want to play games, it is worth it over the Mac Mini. If not, it isn’t imo.
If you want maximum power/watt ratio, sleek looks or maybe to run MacOS, Mac mini wins. If you need ports, x86 compatibility or upgradability GTR wins. So, depends a lot on what you are going to do with it and your priorities..
Egpu m2 and thunderbolt adpter +mini pc
Glad you are finding uses for steam os now that the steam deck is dead!
*_LOL Riiiiiiight…_*
@ETA Prime, how could i reduce my RAM usage on the Ally ? 60% is already used when ONLY running Steam, thats kinda a lot..
Price is ridiculous if they hope to grow their market presence.
9:24 what gamepad is that?
Steam controller. No longer in production.
With starfield getting released at 30 frames I don't see why most people would have a problem with playing games at 30 frames on these mini PCS??
Is it possible to overclock RAM higher than 5600 in BIOS?
Try to test GTR7 with 6400 MHz KF564S38IBK2-32 RAM
$789?😮😮😮😮
Can It Do Ps3 and Switch 4k60? I can help but think that these mini pc while very cool are too expensive. you can get better performance with a pc build for around the same price with 32gigs of ram
*_You can also get better performance if you build your own and spend around $6,000 - $7,000._*
@@kevindie I don't get what's your point. You can event spend around 30k and have better performance. but that's not what I am talking about. how does compare in price/performance against a similarity priced PC
diy
@@monovengclan *_Huh?_*
Honestly would just buy ROG with the same specs only cheaper, portable
@@wesleyswafford2462 exactly my point👌
nice review dude..need to shave those arm bro🤓
The Most Powerful Mini PC For Steam Deck OS Is Hands Down The Fastest We’ve Tested
why dont you freaking mention the graphic and ram issues with this unit in your testing? lots of ppl who got it gets random reboots every hour... i bought it based on this video and now i cant even play any games as it always reboots in less than 2hrs. the forum is full of consumers who got the problem... shame that it didnt get call out anbd btw, support from beelink is crap and tsakes forever to response
BRING BACK THE STEAM CONTROLLER
Drunk pricing again?
Half-life 2 sure does look like left4dead2
Over priced
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Is there other choices?
Beelink is cheap, just wait a bit and it will be cheaper. And for what it has It's actually a bargain
If it has liquid thermal cooling like the others I can't get with it.
Better price than most "gaming laptops" that have weak CPUs
Steam deck/rog ally and mini pc are consoles , change my mind :v
Its Steam OS. There is no Steam Deck OS. It's been around since 2013 way before the Steam Deck. Its like calling Windows: Windows PC OS.
I thought this was strange, too. But actually it is what Valve are calling it if you look at the OS release notes.
I just don't know why you don't focus on emulation instead of pc gaming
He does both.
@@hanspecans not on his mini PCs much
If it can play AAA games, it can play emulated titles with little effort
@@chidorirasenganz everything can play triple a games, even when he tests the tiny pcs
@@youraveragedillon5958 not really. Many can’t play games like Cyberpunk, Elden Ring or Spiderman
What's that title? The most powerful one is the fastest?
Not so unexpected, right 😉
Over $800
Dope
gamers deserve a new steam controller :/
And tomorrow you will have an even faster one🙄
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I can build better gaming pc for 800$
@@wesleyswafford2462 prices of GPUs went down significantly lately though, we are seeing 6700XT for 350$ now, and thats some of the better options, you can find solid card for 1080p for 200$ easily and thats if you go for new. If you are willing to go used (which I would consider) I reckon you can find solid card for 100$
Do you really play ANY of those games? You always show the first 1-2 minutes of those games and make conclusion. Do you always recommend a product as long as they send you a free unit? You know you make enough bucks through RUclips, please have some objective opinion, make some solid reviews of products for people who spent their hard earned money on
*_LOL C’mon; you’re still not playing Dirt 3 at 1080p, low settings??? What’s wrong with you?_*
He chose quantity over quality. A lot of people is asking about ram temps, but he doesn't care
awesome steamos. VALVE please keep commit to opensource amdgpu driver, wine, dxvk, vkd3d.
Over priced