This lenses look great! I can't afford the expensive Cinema lenses but I would love to try at least one...which focal length would you choose if you could only have one? for general usage? I have a Sony FX30...I'm thinking a 24mm would be good...about 36mm and if I were to use clear zoom (OMG!! the end of the world!!!) I could get almost the look of a 50mm...a vintage vibe would be nice too! thanks for the video!
I honestly think the whole chromatic aberration conversation is odd. I think it adds character. When i buy a lens, i don't necessarily want it to be surgically sterile and clean. I want character
Thanks for this review. At first glance these lenses are exciting but the chromatic aberration on the 55mm is extreme. I'm curious if the other lenses in the set also have it. Just one of those things that will come back to haunt you. Worth mentioning.
Loving watching all the other reviews of these lenses, seems like everyone was expecting them to be pretty ropey for the price (myself included) - but like you, I was really i pressed by what SIRUI are offering at this prce point. If they release more focal lengths then they will have a great line up to rival the more expensive "budget" primes from DZOfilm and Meike.
Modest tone, but a very good review. Personally I don’t see the point of t1.2 as the shallow DOF makes it almost unusable in most scenarios, and I’d rather focus on what these lenses look like at t.2-4, where I’d use any lens the most. It would be good to see how all the colours match up on a vectorscope compared to a Sigma to see if they are all warm to the same degree. I would imagine that’s where Sigma is more consistently accurate, but you never know. These look great for a low-budget short film or music video.
How do you think these compare to the Meike's? I know the set you have is full frame, but you also tested the RF set. I have the s35 set in EF mount but am tempted by those superspeed apertures
Hola. Excelentes lentes por el precio. Tengo la Z Cam E2 S6. Perfectos para la montura Micro Cuatro tercios que viene con la cámara. Tengo moturas PL, EF y M4/3 y estoy por añadir montura E. Espereba que con lentes M4/3 se verían viñetas pero ninguna. Tengo algunos SLR Magic Micro Prime M4/3 y sorpresa, funcionan hasta para un sensor Full Frame. Pero en comparación, estos Sirui están por arriba de los SLR Magic Micro Prime, de cualquier montura. Saludos desde México Spenser. Te sigo hace algunos años.
13:35 you say "the gearing feels nice and tighty". This gets me a bit worried, as almost every other reviewer has commented that the gearing is not tight at all, but too loose. Does that mean that it will be hit or miss wether the specific example we buy will be tight or loose?
Reviewers received sample units so I’m not sure on the consistency. I said tidy meaning it’s pretty smooth. Idk. I have no complaints with mine. Remote focus worked great on my set.
@@spensersakurai Ah, I thought you said "tighty", because so many has complained about the focus ring being too loose. I guess with a follow focus you can adjust the resistance of the focus ring, but did you also experience the focus ring to be too loose (if you did any direct focus pulling at all)?
Have the 55 and its great for the price. People are overexagerating with ca and bokeh ,look at the price, you can’t expect it to be as good as a 2000€ one. Annoyed by that ,like comparing the nifty fifty at 130€ with the L model at 1500€ and complaining that it’s not as good.🤦🏻
All mounts are moving to shorter flange. Which makes them not usable for EF. This is now the standard and unfortunately EF mount will be gone soon. It’s just cheaper and future proofing.
@@spensersakurai except pl, which is getting longer. It's fine to cut costs, but they just don't work on paid, larger gigs. I'm not going to hate on them for limited mount options, it's just a shame we can't use them for a variety of work.
Another great video. Meanwhile Wondering how you are grading your Komodo. Its looking very nice and definitely is avoiding the muddy lower mids that i often see. Lots of air and space, more Arri. Wondering if you avoid sharpening when doing these reviews. Assume so but since I sharpen everything i do with the Komodo or any raw workflow without in camera, i was just wondering. Thx again.
I never sharpen RED footage. It has lots of detail. I mean you just got to expose correctly. I color things differently depending on what I’m doing but I just do my best to make it look how I want.
I think the over use of luts rather than actual grading along with many people not understanding how to use iso to expose for shadow with red camera s yields a common often mediocre type of image. Lighting, exposure lens (lens and T stop will determine perceived sharpness) then grading (r3d will give you the most flexibility).
@@anthonyrock5039 im not sure what kind of LUTs you are referring to but a CST is a technical LUT and in most cases its a log to linear mathematical transform simple to let the NLE grade reflect output colour space. I am not sure that i have ever really understood this red iso argument and often i think there are very confusing terms used. The physical amount of light hitting the sensor and its sensitivity need to be delineated and understood. The iso is a measure of the sensor’s sensitivity to light and as such this is always in play raw or otherwise regarding the sensor design and any bias the sensor may have in its response to any given light level. The clarity of perceived sharpness and micro contrast in the image is a combination of many things but it is most easily understood when using noise reduction and sharpening. If NR is applied to an image in post just look at what is happening in the waveforms. When we talk about a sensor having a clean image without the need for external NR and sharpening then this is really what is in the control of the camera manufacturer and their sensor design and bias out of the box and often affects micro contrast and specifically rgb separation. It is debatable whether shooting a noisy raw image in camera is better dealt with in post given the computational speed and sophistication of post software that in camera but manufacturers should then logically release NR and sharpening software or presets to existing third party software to accommodate how they believe the image should be sharpened or cleaned in the same way they release a conversion LUT.
Not sure what the point of this review was ? You sounded bored out of your mind right from the start; when you tested them it was only in daylight, and even then you just shot your car mirror; and you literally couldn't be bothered to test the 55mm. All felt a bit lazy.
All siruie lesss are garbage, stay away from them, extreme chromatic aberrations, poor built quality and lots of distortion. Getting a good quality lens from them is hit or a miss.
Shame there wasn't a night time low light test with these lenses. Seemed like a natural fit.
True
Pity they dont come with EF mount. They would pair great with BMPCC6K.
Unwise to not have Z mount either. I have the Z8 and it has amazing Super35 (aps-c) specs
Ef mount is coming
They will be different probably but they said it on twitter
@@Rukiasriot1where on Twitter??
Probably will have pl and ef, sometime. But definitely won't be the same price, owing to the fact that it would literally be a bigger lens
This does look so sick!!! Might be my first fuji X Cinemalens
This lenses look great! I can't afford the expensive Cinema lenses but I would love to try at least one...which focal length would you choose if you could only have one? for general usage? I have a Sony FX30...I'm thinking a 24mm would be good...about 36mm and if I were to use clear zoom (OMG!! the end of the world!!!) I could get almost the look of a 50mm...a vintage vibe would be nice too! thanks for the video!
I honestly think the whole chromatic aberration conversation is odd. I think it adds character. When i buy a lens, i don't necessarily want it to be surgically sterile and clean. I want character
Agreed bro
Great review. Super interesting comparison with the Sigma cine, I had similar results. These lenses punch way above their price point for sure.
Thanks for this review. At first glance these lenses are exciting but the chromatic aberration on the 55mm is extreme. I'm curious if the other lenses in the set also have it. Just one of those things that will come back to haunt you. Worth mentioning.
The chromatic aberration is my biggest gripe compared to the 7 Artisans, but other than that these lenses look amazing.
Loving watching all the other reviews of these lenses, seems like everyone was expecting them to be pretty ropey for the price (myself included) - but like you, I was really i pressed by what SIRUI are offering at this prce point.
If they release more focal lengths then they will have a great line up to rival the more expensive "budget" primes from DZOfilm and Meike.
Great orchestrating on the shoot!
That 24mm might just be the exact lens I've been lookin for. Thanks. Excellent video.
Too bad they're not in EF or PL mount to be adaptable to different mirrorless systems.
Modest tone, but a very good review. Personally I don’t see the point of t1.2 as the shallow DOF makes it almost unusable in most scenarios, and I’d rather focus on what these lenses look like at t.2-4, where I’d use any lens the most. It would be good to see how all the colours match up on a vectorscope compared to a Sigma to see if they are all warm to the same degree. I would imagine that’s where Sigma is more consistently accurate, but you never know. These look great for a low-budget short film or music video.
Distance to subject. Wider shots with the subject a bit further away will have more depth of field.
I would like to see an l mount. Maybe they will make it if blackmagic makes an l mount camera
7:50 from 35 and higher, the background starts to look buttery
How do you think these compare to the Meike's? I know the set you have is full frame, but you also tested the RF set. I have the s35 set in EF mount but am tempted by those superspeed apertures
Hard to say, but for the cost might as well grab 1-2 to try out just for the aperture.
@@spensersakurai That's fair. At the price they are practically disposable as well. Thanks!
Hola. Excelentes lentes por el precio. Tengo la Z Cam E2 S6. Perfectos para la montura Micro Cuatro tercios que viene con la cámara. Tengo moturas PL, EF y M4/3 y estoy por añadir montura E. Espereba que con lentes M4/3 se verían viñetas pero ninguna. Tengo algunos SLR Magic Micro Prime M4/3 y sorpresa, funcionan hasta para un sensor Full Frame. Pero en comparación, estos Sirui están por arriba de los SLR Magic Micro Prime, de cualquier montura. Saludos desde México Spenser. Te sigo hace algunos años.
that's insane value
amazing as always dude
How do these do against the viltrox vision cine lenses?
Sadly, my P6K has a EF mount.
no l mount, so sad, I was thinking of buying s52x, now I will have to use adapters.
Would’ve purchased but no EF option.
no low light test?? :(
What's your opinion to compare these to meike's?
Hey Spenser! Was thinking to buy meike for my bmpcc4k. Do you think these are better than those?
Which meikes? I think they make like 4-5 versions now
@@spensersakurai the cine line lenses they have. I have their 16; was thinking to get 23 and 50 now sirui came in.
Why does the footage have black bars? do these not cover the sensor fully?
Yes! Spherical! Finally!
I totally agree that these lenses are way better than they should be at this price point
thats why 3rd party lens manufacturers are our best friends
@@L3ViTAT3 definitely agree
13:35 you say "the gearing feels nice and tighty". This gets me a bit worried, as almost every other reviewer has commented that the gearing is not tight at all, but too loose. Does that mean that it will be hit or miss wether the specific example we buy will be tight or loose?
Reviewers received sample units so I’m not sure on the consistency. I said tidy meaning it’s pretty smooth. Idk. I have no complaints with mine. Remote focus worked great on my set.
@@spensersakurai Ah, I thought you said "tighty", because so many has complained about the focus ring being too loose. I guess with a follow focus you can adjust the resistance of the focus ring, but did you also experience the focus ring to be too loose (if you did any direct focus pulling at all)?
I fello Toneh enjoyer, love it
Have the 55 and its great for the price.
People are overexagerating with ca and bokeh ,look at the price, you can’t expect it to be as good as a 2000€ one.
Annoyed by that ,like comparing the nifty fifty at 130€ with the L model at 1500€ and complaining that it’s not as good.🤦🏻
Quite impressive for their price 🤯
Is it full
Frame
What camera are using with these?
Your reviews are the best! Most helpful info, most relevant test footage, real use 🤌🤌🙏
Anybody know what song this was at 11:26
Barrel distortion on thr 24 is pretty bad. The mild pincusion on the 55 is pretty distracting too. But i guess it can be corrected in post
Do you know if these lenses are weather sealed?
most cine lenses are not weather sealed.
The real question is: are they better than rokinon?
The housings are for sure
Why do not of these companies make ef or pl lenses? It keeps them out of use on sets.
All mounts are moving to shorter flange. Which makes them not usable for EF. This is now the standard and unfortunately EF mount will be gone soon. It’s just cheaper and future proofing.
@@spensersakurai except pl, which is getting longer. It's fine to cut costs, but they just don't work on paid, larger gigs. I'm not going to hate on them for limited mount options, it's just a shame we can't use them for a variety of work.
Too bad. Either L mount or EF and I would have picked them up.
No ef mount?
Another great video. Meanwhile Wondering how you are grading your Komodo. Its looking very nice and definitely is avoiding the muddy lower mids that i often see. Lots of air and space, more Arri. Wondering if you avoid sharpening when doing these reviews. Assume so but since I sharpen everything i do with the Komodo or any raw workflow without in camera, i was just wondering. Thx again.
I never sharpen RED footage. It has lots of detail. I mean you just got to expose correctly. I color things differently depending on what I’m doing but I just do my best to make it look how I want.
I think the over use of luts rather than actual grading along with many people not understanding how to use iso to expose for shadow with red camera s yields a common often mediocre type of image. Lighting, exposure lens (lens and T stop will determine perceived sharpness) then grading (r3d will give you the most flexibility).
@@anthonyrock5039 im not sure what kind of LUTs you are referring to but a CST is a technical LUT and in most cases its a log to linear mathematical transform simple to let the NLE grade reflect output colour space. I am not sure that i have ever really understood this red iso argument and often i think there are very confusing terms used. The physical amount of light hitting the sensor and its sensitivity need to be delineated and understood. The iso is a measure of the sensor’s sensitivity to light and as such this is always in play raw or otherwise regarding the sensor design and any bias the sensor may have in its response to any given light level. The clarity of perceived sharpness and micro contrast in the image is a combination of many things but it is most easily understood when using noise reduction and sharpening. If NR is applied to an image in post just look at what is happening in the waveforms. When we talk about a sensor having a clean image without the need for external NR and sharpening then this is really what is in the control of the camera manufacturer and their sensor design and bias out of the box and often affects micro contrast and specifically rgb separation. It is debatable whether shooting a noisy raw image in camera is better dealt with in post given the computational speed and sophistication of post software that in camera but manufacturers should then logically release NR and sharpening software or presets to existing third party software to accommodate how they believe the image should be sharpened or cleaned in the same way they release a conversion LUT.
Are these lenses equipped with autofocus?
Nightwalkers are suppeerrrr good
What do you like most
The slightly onion ring bokeh looks a bit harsh
sadge.. no L mount
Of course, L mount is true Full Frame and not fake fullframe as E-mount
Not sure what the point of this review was ? You sounded bored out of your mind right from the start; when you tested them it was only in daylight, and even then you just shot your car mirror; and you literally couldn't be bothered to test the 55mm. All felt a bit lazy.
I’m not sure what the point of this comment was. The video is live. Has been for many many months. Life has moved on.
@@spensersakurai wow, even your reply is lazy 🤣 but no worries !
and it isn't)
All siruie lesss are garbage, stay away from them, extreme chromatic aberrations, poor built quality and lots of distortion. Getting a good quality lens from them is hit or a miss.
What brands do you recommend? (similar budget wise)
I want to like these for Compact size and my love of the 35mm ana, but I doubled down on the Rokinon CineDS series, just don't love the bulk.
They are more than fine for youtube and social media.
Strongly Disagree
@@OlympiaMortgageLender which is what 99% of people with "cine" gear can hope for anyway.