The Rise Of Chinese Jets - ARJ21, C919, C929, C939 | COMAC's Answer To Boeing And Airbus!
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We will explore the chinese aviation market and the four chinese jets that will rival Boeing and Airbus for the next century, everything from small regional jets to lumbering craft to rival the Boeing 747 and Airbus A380. What are they? what will they be like to fly? And why the west hates them. Let's crack open this fortune cookie and find out.
The aviation market is made up of two big players - Boeing and Airbus (and embraer) but soon, there might be a third player who rivals the two friendly giants - COMAC.
COMAC, which stands for the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China. Essentially China's economy is snowballing so much that they need to ensure they have their own aviation industry to keep up with demand.
China plans to build an extra 200 airports over the next 15 years to cope with the relentless growth spurt. And only last year, Boeing's own Commercial Market Outlook projections said China would require 8,090 new passenger aircraft plus related aviation services over 20 years -- a market worth $2.9 trillion.
What does COMAC stand for?
There is the ARJ21, which stands for Advanced Regional Jet, nicknamed the Soaring Phoenix.
Then there are the three brothers, the C919, C929, and the C939. C stands for COMAC, 9 for forever and the last two digits for how many tens of passengers it can carry.
The ARJ21 had its first flight in 2008, but it took seven years to be delivered to customers. 32 are currently flying across China, and there are 208 reported orders. There are two versions, a 90 seater -700 and a 105 seater -900. The base model only has a range of 1,200 nautical miles, which is the equivalent of the first Boeing 737 from 1967, but there is an optional upgrade to boost it up to 2000 nautical miles. While small, as its designed for regional travel in china, it doesn't require to the distance-Thats for the next series.
Next up, we have the C919, equivalent to the Boeing 737 and the Airbus A320. there is only one version, that can seat 168 passengers in an all economy layout, or 158 with business class. Its has simular engines as the Boeing 737 MAX series which allow it a range of 2,200 nautical miles. Again, there is an extended range version that can push this up to 3,000. This aircraft will be popular and has already secured 1008 orders.
Side note: orders for these aircraft need to be taken with a grain of salt, as they are nearly all from either Chinese carriers who owned by the government and encourage to purchase locally made aircraft, nations in developing regions and engine manufacturers like GE. No western nation has shown interest in them yet - but we will get to that later.
Next up we have the C929 or the Craic CR929. It has two names because of its a joint venture between COMAC and the Russian United Aircraft Corporation, or UAC. This aircraft is an attempt to replicate the success of the Airbus A330 and Boeing 787.
The aircraft would fit up to 291 passengers with two classes or up to 440 with a single seating class. Or... it could even fit all of my current subscribers! If you want to get on the Chinese plane, hit that subscribe button down below and i'll be sure to send you a ticket! There will be three versions of the plane, progressively offering more seats for less range.
Speaking of, It will have a range of 6,480 nautical miles, 12,000km, and the two partners believe that there will sell 1000 of these aircraft over the next 10 years for a total investment of 13-20 billion.
Now for the last and most significant of the aircraft, the C939. Now very little is known about this aircraft, or if it even is built in the age of Boeing 747 retirings and Airbus A380 production line shutting down.
What we do know is that the C939 will seat over 400 passengers in a twin-engine, twin aisle configuration, much like the biggest 777X and the Airbus A350. It could even be expanded to the same size as the 747, although at this point all these ideas are irrelevant, because outside of China they may find few customers.
Part of the reason why Chinese made aircraft are not popular is because of the engines. at the moment, China can't produce the same level of quality jet engines - for all of these projects they will need GE, Rolls Royce or others to power their aircraft. And it doesn't just stop with the engines.
Plus, if your an airline and you ordered the aircraft - how will you maintain them? China doesn't have a worldwide spanning maintenance and parts network that airlines can easily access. Unless you on the border of the nation, it will be very expensive to operate these aircraft, and likely you will suffer the same fate as Interjet and their Russian made regional jets.
Thanks so much for watching!
Ironicaly the first Boeing engineer who designed Boeing first mass produced, the legendary model C, was Wong Tsu, born in Beijing in 1893. You can see his biography in Museum of Flight in USA
Ironicaly the first Boeing engineer who designed Boeing first mass produced, the legendary model C, was Wong Tsu, born in Beijing in 1893. You can see his biography in Museum of Flight in USA. To be or not be depend on Chinese?
Whoa! Thanks for the interesting info.
Really?
Ironically one of the pioneers of JPL that gives NASA rocket engines was Qian Xuesen, born in Hangzhou 1911, aka the father of China's rocket and nukes.
@@daravikki 波音第一个工程师，中国北京人
COMAC doesn't actually really need their aircraft to be widely adopted by western airlines. There are more people in China than in the USA, UK, and EU combined.
And the airplane falls apart after 8 months since it is made in China. Window is taped with duct tape, and engine oscillates violently. Flight computers crash running Windows 95.
Just kidding. :) That's a stereotype that things made in China break down so easily. I wish the plane manufacturer success in this competitive industry.
Yes that's true but half of the Country is Dead broke so poor they can't afford to fly
I wanna see ASAP a hypersonic Mach 5 semi outerspace jumbo 400 pax hypersonic jet made by CNSA+COMAC. Considering all their outerspace projects nowadays are full of success. Go China, make a hypersonic Mach 5 jumbo 400 pax with turboramjets single crystal engine blades with graphene skin n graphene fuselage n 6G communication.
@@haditjandradjaja8403 I would love to see any supersonic/hypersonic airplane nowadays. No passenger plane in 2022 travels faster than Mach 0.88, sadly. We need a Mach 2 plane, and a Mach 3 plane, and finally a Mach 5 one in the next 10, 20, and 30-40 years respectively. :) That probably won't happen though.
@@thatguyalex2835in fact, by only just listening that roaring afterburner at take off, its fire exhaust, the sonic boom of a Concorde in real life, i think i have already full of satisfication. All of those were only in memory n video. I am excluding fighter/bomber military supersonic jets.
The main reason China is developing their own planes is to keep up with Chinese demand for
airliners. There is too much demand. China cannot wait years for an airliner. Also old planes have to be replaced with new planes because of air safety regulations. So there is a huge growing backlog for airplanes
And security. Not wanting another MH370 full of Huawei engineers flying towards the direction of Diego Garcia and went 'missing'. Or another flight 5735 that nose dived for no reason.
Like other nations & manufacturers, I would love it if China was truly transparent with their aircraft safety. If you look at their e car industry, their cars still have a long way to go to meet western reliability and safety, so until this happens, you will see me enjoy the aircraft from a distance.
If you look at what G7 did to Russia when Russia-Ukraine war happened, it makes sense to be self-reliant.
@@charlieqin1083 Maybe it makes even more sense not to invade neighboring countries.
Can't really complain about a disruption to a duopoly. Complacency gives us the likes of the debacle that is the 737 MAX situation. Competition is welcome, but validation by regulating bodies like the FAA should not be rushed. Give it time.
Competition and money were the root cause of the 737 Max problems.
The Boeing people who told them it was an unsafe design must have been ignored by management .
As far as certification goes, Boeing gave China a gift in making the FAA look so incompetant and at the same time boosting the image of the CAAC.
Exactly the same happened to the British airline industry in the 1950s after the problems with the Comet.
i dont think is a gift is big market world , this way american can feed people...you want sell you shit here open ass .
FAA ??? Ever hear MAX 8 dude ???
true they should let china Comac certify their own planes on behalf of the FAA just like Boeing does. no need for favoritism lol
@@BeardedMasonBiker. Don't be surprise they good at that.
China just uses its own planes domestically first. That's a lot of planes that it does not need to buy from abroad.
The domestic market for 1.4 billion consumers in China is more than the total consumers for usa and all five eyes nations plus G7 nations added up together. Great demand for building up aircraft industry!!! Cheer China!!
Good idea, test them on the Chinese first
@@bigearz255 boeing should do the same. stop selling planes that kill people
India also uses their own
Built airplanes...in domestic market.
The list is long ..
Canada
Brazil
Checoslovskia
Austria
Indonesia
Vietnam
Australia
About 55 countries
Make their own built
Aircraft ...
@@kiranrana5108 this is what happened when you live in bollywood.
well, the westerns laughed at China's nuclear, rockets, space and telecom projects before.
@William Langeman Which technology you meant? the one originally from Nazi Germany? time.com/5627637/nasa-nazi-von-braun/
By the way, I don't think China should get credit from America's bombs dropped around the world, only because China invented gunpowder. Americans should be proud of their wars just as how they are proud of their space achievements. America as Number One, no one can deny this.
@William Langeman From your comment, we can see how ignorant you are, you said China has never won any Nobel Prize. But actually, China has won 3, 2 Nobel Peace Prize, 1 Nobel Prize in Medicine. What China is doing now, accepting the facts China is still far behind, but taking it as the motivation to improve and progress. What you are doing, is to be ignorant, stupid, and take advantages from the hardworking scientists from the western world.
STILL LAUGHING!
@William Langeman better than being a dead man when getting on a Max.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/18/jim-cramer-says-boeing-will-run-out-of-money-if-it-is-not-saved.html Boeing's running out of cash so no Max replacement for some time. Nobody's flying anyway.
Am working in airworthiness certification in France. Can confirm certification by Europe's EASA and US' FAA won't be easy for the Comac aircrafts.
On the other end, they do have strong support of the Chinese airworthiness authority (CAAC), but tbh it's the same for Airbus and Boeing with their local authorities. But CAAC is also acquiring information from Airbus and Boeing by using political pressure : they were asking to see more technical data than necessary to validate A320neo certification, and threatening "otherwise reviewing the info to publish the certificate miiiight take a bit more time" [insert South-Park "we're sorry" meme]. As most of Airbus and Boeing's market openings come from Chinese companies, delaying certification will delay delivery of airplanes and thus provoke commercial & logistical issues.
Its a tricky thing to get a new plane certified
yes it wont be easy because of fear and politics . otherwise in the long run they will get and if not they will still survive with out it. they have a HUge HuGe local market
scarly take flight boeing 777max.
Thanks for the heads up.
Great format and the amount of work you put in really shows ;-) ..got yourself a subscriber✈️😉
the journey of 1000 miles begin with a single step. Just like low end hp that china buiilt a decade ago, everyone was laughing at the quality.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first piece of stolen technology.
@@BELCAN57 you a virgin or what this happens in every country
mIles was invented by a whute guy. Thats for the support.
China stole So Much
The journey of airbus started with high quality aircraft. The journey of China will start with crap and end with crap
As Indian, I wanna congratulate that country..
Atleast someone trying to brake monopoly of west in another sector.
People should realise that for everyone of these jets sold it means it's one less sale of Airbus or Boeing. Given the current global aviation mess, A and B are in trouble.
You're on point. Global aviation industry needs to be much more comparative and expand; a little more than Boeing & Airbus as today.
Just like European cooperation, namely among Germany France Britain etc; there should be Asian cooperation,among China Japan Korea Taiwan Singapore etc.
A website with 4 million views says it all at, blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1795128
A, B and now C!
@riplstrip a huge amount of what we use is made in China-including Apple's products.
couldnt care less about an american and an european airlines.
@@oxcart4172 cool
Let's be totally fair here, China is entering an already established market, surely whatever design they come up with, especially considering its their first, would resemble some sort of plane that already exists?
Amen
As a Chinese, I think probably yes, but maybe some higher specs would still make it competitive
the cr929 looks like some sort of bootleg version of the 787
This seems self evident to me, as most planes to date are very similar. I see nothing wrong in starting in the same mode, then as more experience is gained and mistakes are made, you improve and improve.
Duh !
Though it is its long term goal, but right row China is not worry about any certificates issue because even it produces those airplanes, its production line probably cannot even meet the needs of its own market which as this video mentioned that need over 8000 airplanes in the next 20 years.
correction: arj21 is certified in Eu, same with c919.
But they are not going to be certified in the US any time soon. Americans can’t accept the fact that Chinese aircraft are flying over American soil.
@@junizhao they eventually have to or else boeing will lose its certification to fly over china. Haha
@@marcs5117 , Ha! ha! ha! you are right.
it's not necessairy to have their certificat because it's necessary going there, too many gangsters, pan! pan! pan! too dangerose
China will do the same thing.
Great channel, thank you!
He who owns the market owns who's plane will fly in that market. Western airlines aren't going to order 8,900 planes. China is.
Boeing 737Max will not fly anytime soon.
@@freddiethompson58 I have a feeling your comment won't age well.
@@freddiethompson58 I didn't get to read your entire reply. Youtubr only displays part of it in the notifications.
@@user-do5zk6jh1k I'm sorry, but there is nothing I can do about the censorship. The free world that they like to portray is no more so free.
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Now everybody knows there are a big sour grapes appear😁
without foreign components, these merely a pile of junks,
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@@dyu999
Haha, the first comment is a Chinese traitor 😁
@@Lagoost I serve the Queen👑,
Fxxkwit
@@dyu999
Useless, helpless second class citizen who like a fish out of water. GTFO...
@@Lagoost
Unfortunately, i live better than you
Очень приятно, когда люди работают эффективно. Спасибо за видео:).
Its going to be a long journey for Chinese aviation. But, they will eventually get there and be able to compete. They have done it in all other sectors. Also remember that China has only really started this industry in the last 20 years and will probably take another 10 years to perfect the product and another 10 years to out perform their rivals.
Yes. China has the time and the market.
It will also stall when the West realizes the full scale of its mistake in the nineties (out of sheer greed) and reduces trade with China, preventing further stealing of tech.
@@darkokoporcic7146 Greed never know what it means by too late.
@@darkokoporcic7146
China is one of the only three countries (US, Russia, China) that are capable of independently, safely sending astronauts to space (UK, France, Germany, Japan can’t do that yet.) It's a mistake to always think China is a low-tech country.
The space station and the satellite to the back of the moon moron
After Covid, there'll be a lot of second hand jets with low mileage.
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Excellent video! 💛🙏🏼
This is indeed a great achievement.
I have to say, the 919 is a nice looking plane. I'm not sure I'd want to travel on one until they have been around a while, but they do look nice.
Well, 737 max.....
It sounds U do not rely on 919. .......
Now that China has sorted out the WS-15, it can move on to make a civilian version for the C929. It will get there.
ws15 is not energy saving
High performance high fuel consumption fighter engines and low performance high efficiency airliner engines present whole different set of challenges. But yes, high bypass turbofans aren't necessarily more difficult to perfect than WS-15. Assuming they started working on both at around the same time, they should finish both at around the same time.
@@weixiaoli6158 it's a learning exercise. It will improve.
Off course it will, time is on their side.
No, WS is military turbo fan engines for fighter jets. For C919 there’s CJ 1000A, just unveiled. Google it.
Amazing video. Keep up the good work. Support
China is the 4th player in Aviation Industry, you are forgetting Russia which also is a key player after US and Europe in aviation industry such as "Tuplov", "MCs " competing Airbus and Boeing
You're also forgetting Embraer.
now I am starting to watch your videos love it
Glad you like them! I hope you stick around because I just discovered some old plans for CRAZY Boeing planes that never left the shelf
ok
@@FoundAndExplained ok sure
Chinese have learned the lessons of humiliation and suppression from history and American administration. It's no harm to take longer years to achieve from the chinese point of view because
a united country has a united engineering work force behind working as a team to build better and reliable commercial jet planes in the coming near future.
China has the time to develop the full range of planes in the coming years.
The Chinese communist government has not had to ask permission to build planes. They have experience of humiliation and suppression from it's own anti freedom government. From their corporate scandals, to limiting freedom of expression and ideas constantly limiting potential. Jack Ma looks sad all the time under constant fear of his government.
Well yes wumao
@@jantschierschky3461 Understand that the word "wumao" is for losers who either believe it is true and can find no word to retort, or found that the truth simply hurts.
I really wish US and China were closer allies
Very pleasant voice.... Clear n soothing on listening..... 👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏
The 919 has a very Bombardier CS300 look about it... especially the nose. Good looking airplane in my opinion.
Competition is healthy, there is definitely room for another top dog to keep the west on their toes.
Another top dog? Remove the "top" from your comment & you'll be spot on. Zero components in their aircraft are based on any Intelectual Property owned by China. Take a look at any electronics component buillt by the Chinese, if they have credibilitly they'll state that components used come from Japan or Korea.
I prefer Mitsubishi though. Can't really trust the Chinese or Russian Government.
It's mainly for their domestic consumption market n airline operators. So, indeed why buy Western ones for local use.
Correct. But prejudice is much more difficult to overcome than technical knowledge.
No surprize. China has been copying other countries for thousands of years. If you look at the Chinese ancient rocket, what can you remember of? yes, it is exactly like the modern rocket. Ancient Chinese copied U.S modern technologies from thousands years ago. Why surprize if the Chinese steal the idea of having two wings on a plane?
A number of jet engines of different specs and sizes are under R&D in China, it is not from scratch, they are already able to produce large thrust turbofan engine good enough for fighter jets, and they have all the moving parts in place. May take another 10 years to catch up on this front, but the low hanging mid-thrust to large thrust jet engine are achivable. The fuselage and the avionics and landing gears are ok now.
China has learned about the failures of Russia in trying to go it alone. The US technology companies were just thinking $$$ in licensing agreements, not really understanding that Chinese Government-owned Aviation Industry were playing them to get all of their IP, just to build on their own and terminate licensing agreements.
I'm from Nepal.China's successes always makes us happy. It's also a happy moment for us that China is going to produce airbuses.
I am from Thailand, we were unhappy with Sinovac and Tigers, motorcycle.
Fantastic video ✈️❤️
For more detailed information on the C-919 go to the article below. They will soon be cranking out a large number of these planes.
China is ramping up its fledgling aviation industry expect cutthroat competition
Century XXI built by 🇨🇳 CHINA. 5 thousand years history of culture confirm we can thrust on this frend and immense NATION. ✈ Nice Airplanes⭐
Don't laugh! One of these days in near future, one country will use security reason to force the allies not buy Chinese aircrafts, like what happen to huawei today. Or one can supply engines to them.
By then, China will gave their own engine... the same story repeating...
Kai, and they will make less money. A big opportunity for chinese companies to build theire own need.
Lol, Chinese is still a dictator country
No worries bro,the rest of the world is with china.
@@EE-em8gg free hong kong
The 330 with Buzz Lightyear I photoed at PEK in early Feb. lol
I found this video to be interesting, informative and entertaining, with clear, relevant imagery and good narration.Subscribed.
Each video takes anywhere from 12-30 hours to make. I could just film a PowerPoint and pump out videos but I think you deserve a bit better. And when they come together and I get a comment like this I am smiling all day!
A video about C919 in September 19th, interesting.
Btw, I may expect C919 and hope take it in future, but doubt the delivery of C929 and C939.
The US - 2021: The Chinese cannot have a strong aviation industry.
The US- 2029: Let's impose sanctions on the Chinese aviation industry.
Chinese may retork.
China will rule the world
Strong industry yes... But at what cost?
Jealousy is a very bad thing, it makes a person hollow inside, so it should be avoided. .
The saying the envy and hatred cause more stress to the envious and the haters.
Chinese have been JEALOUS of the West for a Very long Time....
@@drphilgee6430 not jealous, but admiring or envious of the west for a long time.
Jealousy leads to fear, insecurity, and rejection of the west, while envy and admiration leads to desire and action of imitating the west.
Hi, sir the way things are going that I will be willing to fly on any Chinese built aircraft before I will ever trust to fly on any building. I like the Comac C919 and the C929 I have not set the C939 as yet but I guess I have to fly on it when it comes. I trust China not to rush or put short cuts on any of their aircraft because it will be a bad reputation at the start so I trust them to get it right
I’m a Chinese, and I wish I could have the same amount of faith and trust in products Chinese made. I am just unable to do it, cos I know the Chinese government spent more on PR for its project and product other than R&D. Things are made in China are just poor quality. I would rather taking a B737max any day than an aeroplane built by China. Sure, you might think China would take the lessons from the failure of US. The reality is the technique of building this aeroplane is from the US with some adaption. There is simply no R&D spent in terms of time and money. The failure with B737 Max is the cause that we know, but if there is a failure in an aeroplane Chinese built, we probably could never find out, plus the cover up is the most advanced technique China are good at only. Stay safe, mate!
@@CP1900PC You are probably a Chinese (no offending) but I guess you don’t live in China. Otherwise your life is miserable with fears about so much stuff you can’t avoid.
@@CP1900PC LOL massive sour grapes detected
@muhammad LOL great sarcasm everrrr
@@CP1900PC. Maybe you are a Chinese. But then again, it would be naiive for anyone to believe you are a Chinese. On the internet, there is no way to prove that a moniker is who he/she claims to be. Bye, and good luck with whoever you are boy, girl, man or woman, or transgender, etc.
Boeing and Airbus also have military projects. I wonder if Comac would rival or even overthrow Chengdu and Shenyang in the Chinese Air Force some day.
有竞争才有进步
COMAC (Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China)
Based on their name it’s highly unlikely. Even if it does happen it will be much later, after they gain a good reputation with more aircraft.
Keep it up well done 👍
China is third player in the world in aviation industry great achievement by Asian gent china love from india
Great video! Unfortunately, the development of the C919 has been slowed down this year due to pandemic and the engine production problems that you mentioned. Still hoping for this jet to succeed!
放心，我们有cj1000和cj2000发动机选择
الصين فعلا ستنجح ثم توازي ثم تسبق ..وان كان ذلك الآن يتطلب جهدا وتقنية عالية للحاق ببوينج وايرباص والاعاقات كثيرة والمجال عملاق ليس سهل لكنها ستناله .
Can't wait to be on one of these.
nice documentary
Wheres Lockheed. They need to get back into commercial aviation. Boeing needs competition
Lockheed is alone devouring the huge military contracts from the Pentagon cake.
And Boeing recieves ongoing punishment from Airbus...but no wonder after those greedy managers of Boeing ruined this great company.
I feel competition with Airbus isn’t enough to put fire under Boeings butt and we need an experienced player like Lockheed to get in the game. I see COMAC copying and pasting ideas for a while so not too much competition.
Nexusfast123 I don’t think its competition anymore. Instead they contact each other and agree to update their current products and fill each-others voids.
Anthony But this is in aviation very common...even GA aircrafts r looking all nearly the same just take the TBM series together with the Pilatus PC 12 and the new but old Cessna Denali as example...just the TBM has other elevators...but there is a reason why most planes have almost the same look. Its a rellable design which is prooven😴
Planes are a really hard thing, compare with trains.
No worry , Chinese and east asian they are good in copying and imitating any kind of products although they don't have such the creative talent comparing to the west , i believe they will catch up ....... that's why USA already in panic
@@kokboonshin4850 That's learning, not really copy. If that product doesn’t have copyright, any company can copy it as learning.
Landing on Mars and Moon are even more hard.
@@kokboonshin4850 Chinese in USA will send technology to China While Chinese in China wont send technology to US. Eventually China will overtake US in any field.
Very good. I like it at all. 👏👏👏👏
Nice video.
99% of Chinese Aircrafts are owned by State Companies, so yeah... if there is a purchase from a Chinese carrier it is "likely" to be from a state-owned company.
I mean, so what? That means money going back to the people.
Government owned, not state owned. Most Chinese airlines have provincial or city government as the largest shareholder, not the national government in Beijing which would be the “state”
@@simonnuman6840 you mean going back to the CCP members
@@kaikart123 the Chinese gov subsidies a lot more than most western nations, like all governments high ranking officials get a cut but in this case the average individual gets a much better deal (though still not fair).
Because of it is Stata own most likely Tickets will be more economical
The right step taken
They are using quality engines, and doing proper, rigorous testing. I'd get on that congchong thing, whatever you said it's called, any day before I sit in the belly of a MAX.
Awesome Comac 929
i see pretty good future for 919 (they dont need FAA certification to fly within China or most of Chinese friendly states in Africa and Asia). C929 is going to be hard since that thing will fly long distance between countries, makes FAA certification a must, and I dont really see a four engine jet being made in 21st century. C939 is probably not going to happen.
Great achievement in the field of aviation Industries and self-reliance.
First it was products. Now it’s every thing you see in stores. Now It’s Companies. And now, AVIATION?!
Very informative and objective video. Keep it up!🎉
Verygood
Global aviation industry needs to be much more comparative and expanded; a little more than Boeing & Airbus as of today.
As in European Aviation Cooperation, namely among Germany, France, Britain etc which established Airbus; there should be Asian Aviation Cooperation, among China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore etc.
japan, korea, republic of china, singapore is dog of u.s
so, China say : nope, i won't carry them
For static product, its no problem. For dynamics product, sorry im not sure
What ever, China had reach Mars
Assuming the R&D cost for C919 was 20 billion dollars, the orders in China alone is about 100 billion dollars for now. That's a pretty return on the investment in addition to the value of the knowledge and skills acquired through the process.
My goodness, the background music sounds very ancient
Everyone in the comments : won't fly Chinese plane, won't be safe.
737 max:😁😁😁
Look at who crashed those planes.
I prefer 737 max or 737 100 old but safety.
Now the pilots don't want to fly 787's that are made in eastern US.
Good enough and strictly for local consumption. Let Boeing and Airbus do their world market and Comac do theirs.
Being an aviation student I believe China is missing the big picture. Small regional jets are dominated by embraer, and bombardier. Boeing and airbus will handle the 737 seating capacity as well as the 290+. What is needed is a middle market hey such as the 767 which seats anywhere from 210-290 passengers. That’s the biggest segment that if full filled it would mean western orders and European orders
Love it
The domestic market for 1.4 billion consumers in China is more than the total consumers for usa and all five eyes nations plus G7 nations added up together. Great demand for building up aircraft industry!!! Cheer China!!
Its very clear that the US doesn't want China to succeed. Obviously because they will be losing out on market share.
4:50 i'm gonna pretend i'm surprised 😉
lol
Harbin was the earliest small passenger plane flown worldwide from China
May you know how long is the 939???
3:06 general electric airlines
9:20 oof ryanair
Competition for the 747 and A380 ready just in time for the industry obsolescence of both. Genius only possible with government central planning!
The matter is if you are capable to build it, you don't have to build it even you can build it. The knowledge you learn could also be useful somewhere else.
This video is actually genuinely underated and this is actually the actual real China that the actual American and British BBC propaganda mainstream media actually don't show you is actually really like and actually capable of actually doing
China has a huge advantage in that it has a large enough market to develop a world-class company
Plus another red chinese manufacturing advantage is use of slave labor, and lack of environmental protection rules. the red chinese leaders dont give a damn about the environment nor the well being of their slaves.
9:19
So true.
I think that the future of aviation is centered around Airbus, and (it might take years,) COMAC
The Chinese invest everywhere so it’s impossible that they would let these fail
Also china has influence on many rise African economic so it will sell their plane
But I doubt they’re gonna get into the US and European markets, at least not for decades
well-said
@@get_emld europe probably, US no
That's great, I just the quality is better than everything I buy online, bc if it's not, I will never step foot on one of their aircrafts
Great
Pretty soon we’re gonna see Made In China tags in the sky.
Especially considering how badly Boeing is doing with their new airplanes. 787 program was supposed to be 6 billion but turned out way late and 32 billion. 787 had so many production problems (especially out of the NC plant and they close the Everett production). and the 777x and 737 max have been so messed up, and such horrible decisions on the 737 max for expediency, and outright lies. Boeing has changed so much....become like McD. With such a massive market internally, and if China can create a good economical plane, they can get production up with production for internal use, and this can demonstrate that the plane does the job very well and has excellent safety record...this will make it hard for US and EU not to certify them. It also means that China will understand the support needs, and it will be much easier to expand support worldwide. I suspect this is how Airbus became successful...state airlines were encouraged to use AIrbus, and it became hard for the US not to certify the Airbus given its record.
@@cliffordnelson8454 Wow..
The passengers will hope they are better than the shit China normally turns out. Throw away after twelve months😂 like their cars.
They will steal the engine design just like they steal most other ideas, ask Russia
@@cliffordnelson8454 very true, 737 max should be a brand new design to adapt the new engine, 717 is a brillient airplane but very sad.
I really don't think ordering an airliner off Wish is in anybody's best interest...
We need, we Chinese need to make our own airplanes.
Heard the one where a British professional golfer bought from Wish a driver for 150 pounds, took three swings with it and it fell apart. Yeah, crap sold on the net for cheap. But, 150 is still not a drop in the proverbial bucket, you know?
@@user-sp7wy8tx8x then make your planes stop stealing in the name of collaborating.with russian company or other countries. No more chinese anything anynore.
@@goldenvoiceofnepal Well I admit we are behind other big countries in passenger planes
@@paulories4047 , all the golf clubs are made in China. If you pay peanuts... don't expect to get a pie.
I have been part of major projects where Chinese machines were purchased, and they hardly had any formal documentation.
Manual were in one single letter size and all letter fount was Courier New.
All scanned.
Imagine if those machines were AIRPLANES!!! It is crazy.
ARJ21 and C919 are wonderful airplanes ! By watching them taking off steady into sky and land down gently, safely on ground! They're just the beautiful airplanes with good safety, value for it's prize ! Therefore believed C929 and C939... would be the great airplanes for the future! 👌🙏
Aviation Market Main Players :-
1) Airbus, European
2) Boeing, American
3) Bombardier, Canadian
4) Embraer, Brazilian
5) Comac, Chinese
Bombardier was killed by usa in jet area
@@marscanada7891 not really it's now mostly owned by Airbus and still produces the Q400 if i'm not mistaken and also the C- Series now A220
6) Antonov, Russian 🇷🇺
7) Sukhoi Also Russian
@@FBISHOJI beluga
@@dandagames6030 I'm sure the Q400 is now produced by De Havilland Comet but the C-Series is made by Airbus as the A220
Iam happy with China 🇨🇳 progressing ,They are dedicated, so don't laugh at them they'll overcome anything they are well focused with hard work.
Thank you for your kind words. Have a nice day! 😊
Lmao you mean stealing western designs? No way you aren't a bot..
@@cancelanime1507 Didn’t NASA stole Nazi V2 rocket scientist to propel man into moon?
@@imycunt372 Yes because the Saturn 5, Mercury and Gemini rockets looked like the V2..
What is China? Oooohh you mean Mainland Taiwan 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
If you look at how challenging it is to build planes kudos that they have tried. To be competitive long term v the West…it will be tough.
C919 and C929 will give Chinese aviation industry a major boost. It will break the monopoly of Airbus and Boeing.
No, it will not....
In building the C919, China had to do a lot of hacking, cyber intrusion, theft as well as HUMINT operations - A report published shows how this coordinated multi-year hacking campaign systematically went after the foreign companies that supplied components for the C919 airplane. - to acquire the needed intellectual property to manufacture all of the C919's components inside China..
As usual they need to steal trade secrets...could this affect international certifications.. and transparency.
How can you build your industry on hacking the competition.....WTO monitors Airbus and Boeing for trade practices....government subsidies were always an issue...theft of trade secrets, economic espionage will not sit well with the international aviation agencies.
@@jamesrey3221 I think China himself have a capability to build modern aeroplane and jet engines. First director of Boeing was Chinese. China is now working in close coordination with Russia in aviation sector. It is a closest cooperation after Soviet Sino split in 1960s. China was also coordinating with Ukrainian aviation industry i.e. Antonov. Unfortunately Russia Ukraine war have started. More unfortunate thing was that world's largest aeroplane destroyed during that war.
China is now more focusing on aviation industry for last 20 years. 96000 scientist and engineers are working in Aero Engine Corporation of China. About 1 million scientists and engineers are working in Aviation Industry Corporation of China and COMAC. I personally want that China should roll out modern jets and jet engines. It will give more option for people living in third world countries. They will afford cheap Chinese jets.
@@asimmasood7891 He was Chinese American and lived in the culture and education of the US.
Building an airliner is complicated, with strict safety standards, certifications, transparency, WTO watchdogs, etc...
Even Boeing has hundreds of subcontractors in Europe, Japan, Korea and the UK. And same for Airbus which is consortium of companies in Europe, with industry partners in US, Japan and Korea.
No one country can build one by itself...you need cooperation with partners in those countries.
Building an aviation industry in the face of sanctions would be hard to impossible.
You cannot build your industry on hacking the competition.
Airliners will always be expensive, they are the forefront of technology.
Even third world countries lease and own the latest airliners, no one skimps on airliners...airlines need to buy the best, not the cheapest.
Aeroflot and China Air buys Airbus and Boeing for international routes to be able to compete with the world airlines in terms of reliability and fuel efficiencies.
@@jamesrey3221 Actually I know something which other people don't know. China will compete with Airbus and Boeing within 1-2 years. Chinese researchers, engineers and scientists are way ahead from the rest of the world.
@@asimmasood7891 Boeing and Airbus are airframe builders, everything (engines, avionics, landing gears, tires, seats, rivets, etc.) else is sourced out from other subcontractors located in the US, UK, EU, Japan, Korea, etc.)
You need to cooperate with other countries to build your aircraft. Hacking them will get you a hostile response.
You cannot have an aviation industry with sanctions.
Good time to be self sufficient
This is a very interesting video. A lot of what I have seen coming out of China video wise is bad news talking about all their multiple conflicts. If they are true I can’t see this company being around for long due to the aviation industry being a very expensive industry to be in. But time will tell. Also, I think the bias that Chinese products are built cheaper may not translate well to them exporting it. But with Boeing’s past fails, there is a power void to be filled.
2023 now. the company is still here and already delivered the first C919 to its customer. Meanwhile, Japan cancelled its commercial plane project after 15 years of trying and billions wasted.
Oh no !! Thank you **
Boeing: Wow! We really suck at making jets now!
China: Hold my counterfeit beer
COMAC will be the next aviation giant...
I have to say China aviation industry now ..is significantly growing & improving . Very impresive development by china Government. Especially for the commercial airchraft . They are focusing very well ..comment from Malaysia.
Good craftsmanship
air plane.
C 919 👍
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