Top 6 Bombshells Dropped in Delphi Murder Case as Attorney Gets the Boot
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2023
- Amidst a flurry of motions and dismissals, one of accused killer Richard Allen’s attorneys is fighting back against the judge in the case, refusing to step aside as Allen’s counsel. The Law&Crime Network’s Jesse Weber breaks down 6 major developments from this week as the judge prepares to set a trial date.
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I hope this case doesn’t become a circus spectacle - these poor girls and their families deserve a proper trial and above all, they deserve justice. ⚖️
Become? Where you been?
It already has become a circus and the MC is gearing up for the main event. I direct your attention to the center ring where there is a high likelihood that an innocent man is being fragged for a crime that he did not commit. Forget the 3 ring circus antics, this is looking like a mauling that any lion trainer prays never happens to him. This is way more dangerous than the flying trapeze or the man riding his bike across the tightrope. This is real-life!
@@jeffvoght1632 I so agree!
I cannot agree that RA is likely innocent. There is a timeline, which RA provided, and that other witness accounts align with, that places him and just him on the bridge where he would have had to seen the girls, yet his statement, as we have been told, says he did not see the girls. That is telling to me. I do agree that the court needs to rid itself of even the appearance of impropriety so the trial and verdict are accepted as valid.
it is a circus. 5 yrs later they arrest a man who told them he was on the bridge and they mis filed the report ? ?? They find shell casings buried at the crime scene and a phone under a victim . No one in all those years pointed a finger at RA except RA. Two prison guards admit wearing patches for some odd ball religion. RA says his family was threatened. Because RA was on the bridge does not make him the killer. Where is the DNA ?
I just hope they smarten up. Everyone is watching and these girls need justice.
At this point, no matter what else happens, a percentage of the public will never accept the outcome of Allen's proceedings. From the crime through the latest development, this entire situation is disgusting.
Those girls deserve better.
I'm looseing faith in our legal system.
Yea we have to many corrupt people in power
Surprising that anyone has faith in our legal system in the first place…
@@Nikimosquera Is your country really that effed up?
'losing'
I lost it after the Anthony/Baez circus
I'm starting to believe/feel that Mr. Allen is himself a victim.. I'm starting to believe he was railroaded...
After all these shenanigans even if he is guilty he will probably walk free because it will look like he was rail roaded. What a bunch of highly educated buffoons.
100%
The trial should be moved out of state away from the obvious corruption and the judge removed, this all stinks and the only people who suffer are the family. Disgusting 😢
The judge needs to be removed at this point; because of her actions, there will be an appeal, and nobody will be satisfied with the outcome. What a gross misstep from someone of her position; she should be barred from the courtroom entirely as this has tainted her reputation from this point forward.
And did she seriously say that she would reach out to a couple defense attorneys to represent him? What gives her the right to forcefully remove someones attorney and self appoint a different one? It will be an easy appeal, and the case will most likely be thrown out.
Actually the judge is just doing her job and the defense was crooked and you are an ignorant!
You actually believe those drama Queen defense attorneys?? 😅
How are they drama queens? The guards admitted to having Odin patches and everything that has happened since, including the actions of the judge, suggest some serious shenanigans
@@scholarishereHuh? I hadn't heard anything about guards admitting to that.
@@VioletJoyMore than one did
The fact she let cameras in the courtroom for 10.19 but the took cameras out for 10.31. That alone tells me the defense wasn’t/lying
Exactly
The defense created a false conspiracy theory about some odin cult in my area but it wasn't true there are no cults in this area I live here I would know because there isn't any evidence of that and no other murders and no other missing people this was an isolated freak crime that happened and this guy is the bridge guy they were looking for he looks just like him he is the killer and the only thing the defense did was screw this case up and a murderer could walk free but if that happens he better not come back because there are for sure people in this area who would just assume lynch him the old fashioned way for justice!
Hmmm
" it wasn't true there are no cults in this area I live here I would know" of course you would.
@@raptorman48the Odinic stuff at the site seems like such a red herring
I am NOT digging this Judge. 🤔
This is why the cameras and public should be allowed to see what goes on in our court rooms. I don't know the laws or proper precedures .But the fact this suspect is being held in a corrections institution rather than a local jail is not right IMO.
The public have always been allowed in the court room. Cameras are relatively new and not necessary.
I also want to know why the original judge recused himself right after agreeing to move him out of county to the prison upon request of the sheriff
@@ManufacturedCriseshe said he feared for his safety. He saw photos of his family shared on a podcast and was alarmed at the attention the case might bring on him and his family by people obsessing over the trial.
The judge is withholding information from the public in this case ....
@@jimnasium7700 thanks Jim! I wish RUclips would notify me of replies but they don’t. I only get notifications if someone likes my comment and then I come back and see someone replied a month ago like in this case
This case continues to be so weird. In all of the victims and their families are forgotten. What a circus 🤡
Indiana is a weird place. Disappointed, but not surprised.
She wanted the good lawyers out and to replace them with regular public defender puppets of the state.
*TRUTH!*
Oh stop the nonsense. You actually believe those drama Queen defense attorneys??
Correct
Public pretender
The judge is the one that appointed them- they are court appointed not public denfenders. She was trying to give him good council and then they kept screwing up and ignoring the gag order.
The Judge needs to be removed from this case
That judges’ body language is suspicious. Especially considering she was (apparently) fibbing.
What’s her affiliation to the cult?
The trial process is turning into a s#!t show like the whole investigation seems to have been - justice for Abby & Libby 👼🏼👼🏻
I’m not an American nor a lawyer but from my uniformed position this story looks weird af.
Massive pressure on the cops and DAs to make an arrest. So they jumped on this dude with both feet. They want him convicted and this case forgotten. and it's sounds like they're going to railroad this dude whether he's innocent.
I can't help to feel that this whole case and investigation have been grossly mismanaged
corrupt Delphi, from top to bottom.
She has showed a bias and has acted horribly. She needs to be investigated
*TRUTH!*
Richard Allen is the killer he murdered those girls!
His attorneys (ex) have acted horribly. Come on! That Franks motion was highly disrespectful and suspect
💯
@@Cinder_311u obviously didnt read the police reports. The cops lied about the witness statements. Go read rge.
None of this makes sense. I can't help but think there are 3 victims here.
I'm frustrated with what has been going on with this case. We want RA to have a fair and honest trial. Especially if he is guilty!
My heart breaks for their family
This is disgusting. What if this isn't the killer?
This judge needs to be replaced. All good faith has been thrown out the window at this point. It's going to make for an easy appeal. Your backdrop looks like you're broadcasting from a rusty old shed. 😅
I live in Michigan City right next door to Westville. The prison is not hard to get to.
Thank you for your clarity in this! It made sense for me.
The attorney didn't have the evidence locked up? or password protected?
How do you know they didn’t.
It was an ex employee who leaked them. How do you know that ex employee didn’t know codes to get it.
The question may be did the attorney think the person who leaked it was disgruntled and should they have perhaps changed codes etc but you can’t claim the crime scene photos were just lying around without evidence to back up your accusation
@@irishandscottish1829did you see the question marks? Or did you just jump to conclusions. Op asked a question, why are you lecturing them about making statements?
@@irishandscottish1829 even if it was an employee who leaked, that still falls under the responsibility of the lawyers to manage what happens under their business ,
if the leak came from their office, the buck stops with them and they are to be held responsible
politicians have been using that trick for the longest time, "oh it wasn't me it was some staffer that leaked this info that may help my situation somehow"
dont be so naive
At this point the judge should recuse herself. She is helping create a circus out of Libby and Abby's murders! Ffs 😡
Also, Richard Allen has the right to defence and is innocent until proven guilty, if all parties are happy to proceed, then fking proceed! Richard has a very good chance of winning an appeal with the way this is being handled. How very careless.
This upsets me beyond words.
I agree with much of your comment. This is just fuel added to the fire at this point.
It's disgusting.
Hate to say it but this judge f'ed up. How did she think she could get away with a lie like this? With the defense lawyers coming forward and countering her statement of their willing withdrawals? This judge just screwed her career.
simple ,she did not think they would come out with the truth and it appears she was half right
How do you know it's the truth? Because those drama Queen defense attorneys said so?
@@melistasyhow many times are you going to reply the same question 😂😂🤦🏽♀️ clearly majority rules
@@melistasy what 😂
So you just dismiss the allegations.
You don’t believe in fair justice where all allegations should be investigated to find out if they are true or not…
One would think that you have no interest in a fair judicial hearing and just want someone/anyone convicted because ‘feelings’
This is crazy 🤯
There is no excuse for this judge's behavior,, she has undermined the publics trust of the court and has to be removed from the case. It makes no sense why she would do this outside of aiding in a cover up
It was the defense that created a conspiracy theory it was the defense that leaked information it was the defense they actually quit and then one of them is just trying to screw up the trial now the judge is just doing her job and besides Richard Allen is the killer he murderd those girls and they deserve justice he admitted his crime already to his wife and it was recorded by police on a jail house phone!
You have zero knowledge of why it actually happened lol.
@@Cinder_311no u dont.
@@Sinner-fi4bw Didn't the defense accidentally leak crime scene photos to the public? I feel sorry for the family of the victims :(
The judge has blood stains on their hands. Pressure was on to arrest anybody. At this point in the corrupt cops and judge, I have reasonable doubt that Allen did this. I live 10 miles from Delphi. A bunch of crooked cult people here
He's not getting away with this.
Something about this case gives me such a gross vibe that it is actually helping cure my addiction for true crime.
We're all gonna see his funny pool-hall dance out the front door upon his release
Organized crime right in this courtroom!
This case is just getting weirder by the minute.
RICHARD ALLEN STILL REMAINS 100% INNOCENT.
The judge's body language says a lot.
This case has been jacked from the beginning and the judge seems to have her iwn issues with the defendant
Everybody the judge and lawyers have to get their OWN lawyers now - this is ridiculous legal hyperboli!
My GOD.
Not sure you know what 'hyperbole' means.
The way she (Judge Gull) snickered under her breath when she said "...without counsel, ..." is so gross and completely unprofessional.
dirty defense lawyers 🤮
It looks like a dirty judge in my opinion with her witch hair! Regardless if you dislike Richard allen or not he has a right to a fair trial and has a right to a attorney and is innocent untill proven guilty
This, unfortunately, will not be about justice for Libby and Abby.......😢
Is there any way to boot this judge off this case? This case has no room for biased judge. I’m saying this for the two poor girls. They deserve justice, the truth. Locking up random individual doesn’t mean justice.
This!
The defendant deserves a fair trial and for the girls to get justice people must demand that a fair trial is given.
Imagine if this guy did do it but he gets off due to corruption from the judge and prosecutors not wanting to stick to the law…
But if the guy is innocent he shouldn’t be railroaded into a conviction just because ‘feelings’ or because the police failed to investigate properly
The judge sounded nervous or unsure making that announcement. That seems suspicious to me.
I'm glad the Supreme court is now looking over what decisions she made, and will hopefully sort this out! I have attorney's and a judge in my family. And they all say, and I agree, It is certainly sketchy that the judge said in court the attorney's resigned from the case, when they were acually forced off the case. Now seem to be a fact proven by them saying we want to do it pro bono, and the judge refusing them. If it were them who wanted off the case in the first place, they would not be asking to do it pro bono. These attorneys aviously feel passionate about the case, because its rare attorneys offer that. Also, if the judge just wanted them off the case and had her legal reasons, that's what should have been stated in court that day. Her reasons, her complaints, siting the laws behind them. Thats not what happened. She said They wanted off the case, and in fact that was not true. THAN THIS JUDGE appoints an attorney that she is friends with on facebook😒🤔? Another things this judge should have NEVER EVER DONE under these circumstances!! Huge red flags with the judge in this case! Everyone deserves a fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty, thats the law.
Move this trial OUT OF THE STATE! CORRUPTION ALERT🚩
How convenient that the judge appoints two attorneys from her area and works with them . This seems to be her true motivation. This case is corrupt and Allen will never get a fair trial.
I'd hate this to be another OJ trial where the defendant gets off because the prosecution is trying to railroad somebody who's guilty. Every whisper of prosecutorial misconduct helps establish reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury. To the OJ jury, it was obvious that Detective Fuhrman found a random pair of gloves at the crime scene, and planted one at OJ's house. So if the prosecution was lying about that, why should they believe any of it?
He's BG
What a mess!
Corruption.
Hopefully there is no corruption going on here
Always seems that, the smaller the town, the more corruption.
@@showkitties3844 We constantly seeing it & it's becoming more prevalent seems all the government's three letter agencies are corrupt it's like a terminal spreading throughout it's host
Dang!! Sounds like this case needs to be tried in a completely different state. If there is a cult there you have no clue who is in it or knows who. Get that case out of there it needs to be somewhere non biased. The judge might as well announce a guilty verdict already. Now, I'm not saying he isn't guilty I just think he needs a fair trial.
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Were Baldwin and Rossi prepared to meet the January 2024 trial date? If so, it's only fair to the defendant that they be retained. Under those circumstances, it would be a gracious gesture for Judge Gull to recuse herself.
She hasn’t shown herself to be gracious thus far.
There's no reason for her to
Judge should be removed and new judge should be appointed
Wouldn't the correct procedure for the leaked evidence be for the judge to report the attorney to the state bar ethics board and then the bar would determine the remedy, i.e. suspension etc. The trial could only be effected if the potential jury saw the evidence and that issue could be addressed by questioning each potential juror. Now it seems that the attorney has to motion to withdraw his withdrawal, and if the judge denies that, or throws it in the garbage, then to appeal that decision. Once reinstated then the attorney could motion for the judge to recuse herself.
Find the leaker - there can't be too many suspects, this guy isn't a top 10 lawfirm - and hold this person in contempt.
@@scottmccrea1873They already know who it is that leaked the photo.
@@scottmccrea1873 did you watch the video?
They already know who leaked them - it was an ex employee.
Of course I watched the video, they speculated it was an exemployee, they didn't name a name. @@irishandscottish1829
Those girls.The parents I am so sorry. The system has failed.🤨🤨
Something stinks .
This is a mess!
A mockery has been made of this case before an arrest, and it’s one being made now as we speak. This is ridiculous.
I don't have much confidence in this judge.
What a circus 🤡. What about Abby and Libby,they're coming up with anything to delay any kind of justice for them. The flawed, half-assed investigation took up 7years to find someone to pin this on, and he was in plain sight 😅 Those girls are getting lost in this mess. They're weird for playing games like this.
The ISP & the Delphi PD are JOKES. This was not a hard case to solve form the get go. The lack of investigative integrity is astonishing. I feel this is how most small towns operate.
West I’ll is a real scary place!
Chit...let him out til they get it together. Smalltown... they'll take care of him!
So you want a man who hasn’t been proven guilty to be murdered by the mob because ‘feelings’
I agree when someone posted it earlier they should move the trial to another state
Sounds like the cops aren’t the only members of the Odin cult…
Explain, please. Did I miss something?
A LAWYER REPRESENTING A LAWYER ....FUNNY PART ADDED IN CASE WE DIDNT KNOW AND YES THAT IS A THING.😂😂😂😂😂
Her overt bias is apparent to the general public...
Their negligence DID cause evidence to get leaked out tho. Does nobody care that pics were going around of what happened to those little girls?
I believe they were deleted but were reported
What really what pics?
Yet countless lawyers on RUclips who practise have all said the leak (not done by either attorney) isn’t enough to meet the threshold to be removed…
I would sooner go with the knowledge of practising lawyers than some random in the law and crime chat…
@@irishandscottish1829 Even more grievous IMO was how the judge made it look to the public that these lawyers asked to be taken off the case and that looks like an admission of guilt to me. Was that the intent ?
The justice system in the US is a complete joke. Crack down on crime and watch things change.
I dont think he did it anymore. I hope they have other evidence. His lawyes believe hes innocent aswell.
I didn't hear 6 bombshells. Where's the other 5?
This is a very strange case 👽
I am still reserving my opinion on this case until all of the facts are presented.
Right now it could be argued that the judge is trying to protect the odinist by taking these attorneys off of the odinist trail.
The judge has removed Richard Allen as the center of this case and opened the way into the big top.
"Unexpected?" to the public I guess - wouldn't have been w her.
Idk how true it is but I heard on some RUclips story that the Corrections Officers were present during the attorney client meetings and recorded them on a cell phone. No attorney should be allowing anything of the sort…which leads me to believe maybe it’s not true…but now that they’ve been dismissed from the case leads me to believe..maybe it is true and actually has nothing at all to do with the leaked photos?
That's not true. No lawyer would meet with his client with a screw in the room. That wouldn't happen. Now, of course, it's possible the screws bugged the room where the meetings happened. But that would be flagrantly illegal.
Attorneys reported that the security guards had their phones up to record them while meeting, but not in the actual room. The Attorneys couldn't comfortably meet with their client without security being too close. Attorneys even got pictures of a couple security guards wearing religious cult patches on their uniforms.
This case is so corrupt in so many ways.
What does "religious cult patches" mean?
Yeah, the fix is in, whether this guy is the perp or not. Hopefully, the Indiana Appeals Court will shut this judge down.
@@Trendyviews.
@@scottmccrea1873colt everywhere, working together. From the jail to the courthouse.
@@Trendyviews.I thought it said in the Frank's motion the officers stood outside the room with hand held video recorder and Allen had to sit facing them and they recorded his meetings with wife as well as attorneys ( they said something about lip reading ) I'm just going on what defense put in their motion
IMO the judge should be remove
Woe 😮 that judge most definitely needs to recuse herself from this case. Judicial misconduct
He’s the only one who is pronouncing Rozzi’s name correctly.
The judge is doing the most
Is this the case with the video of the guy following them? And says 'girls....' ?
Ricky is not the bridge man the whole town thinks hes innocent and getting railroaded
The judge has been bought.
Just wrap this up already
Really? WTF?😮
Are they trying to stall until he gets the big sleep in prison or what
Woah! I had assumed that the judge had threatened the lawyers with sanctions/penalties over the evidence breach & therefore they chose to leave the case (to spare the client from suffering downstream effects of the lawyers penalties) but this? A judge shoving them out the door is quite improper!
If that was the case, there wouldn't be rules for judges to disqualify attorneys. The real impropriety was the fact that it was done in chambers, and giving the opportunity to save face by withdrawing in secret.
Hopefully there is a record. Not that it will matter in the court of public opinion. There will forever be people who will point back at this incident and refuse to accept whatever the outcome of the trial is.
They made a bunch of crap up to taint the jury pool and got a guy killed. They also publicly accused private citizens and harassed them. Plenty there to get kicked off the case for!
Wait what?
Wait, so NOW Allen is coherent and able to speak for himself? I thought is lawyers were saying he was in such a horrible mental state that we wasn’t able to even speak for himself?
Have ya ever been accused of murder and locked up in prison, unable to live your life, unable to be with your family? No, you haven't. He's got the whole world looking at him, watching his every move, breathing down his neck, and pointing fingers at him. He's surrounded by other inmates who have actually committed crimes against humanity, not to mention he has guards antagonizing him everyday, repeatedly. He's scared someone will poison him or harm him in some way. I don't think its easy to be an inmate. Especially when there's been no sign of evidence to prove he killed anyone. The judge overseeing this case is stalling the trial by forcing out people that do not follow suit with her, leaving this man unable to fend for himself. Of course he's having a hard time, but now that there has been an internal investigation on those who work in the prison system, he's able to gain back some control of the situation. Imagine going thru what he is enduring. All he's trying to do is prove his innocence and the judge is using her own prejudice against him to keep him under lock and key rather than hearing the truth.
Goodluck to the family.. That's all i have to say..
Law practicing has become a joke!
Too many years and fingers on this stinker.
There is a good pod cast called killer psyche that talks about this. He confessed in prison phones twice
But we don't know that for certain because the prosecution has refused to share that with defense. When they requested a copy, the state instead sent a sworn affadavit by Sheriff Liggett that he had read a transcript of it. Liggett has already been caught in several fabrications, so we can't take him at his word. There is a rumor that the prison lost the taped confession. Until the state provides the confession, we can't presume it actually happened.
Did they do a measurement of how tall he would be versus the video?
I wouldn’t want to represent him either
Nobody asked you if you wanted to represent him and it doesn't matter he is innocent untill proven guilty and is eligible for a fair trial
Well he was arrested Oct 2022 I thought it was the 28th but she said the 26th
And tbis video says Nov 2
Does anyone else think they have the wrong guy here? I think it’s someone far close to home who’s now got way with murder ..
Fishy
I bet his wellbeing has declined. Westville should have been condemned years ago. They're finally making a new facility, so I hear.... these girls deaths is so heartbreaking. :(