Huge technique indeed and the “spider” moving on the fretboard is really awesome. Bravo ! One of the best guitar players of the new generation for sure.
LevonsWound ...And the high E string up a half step up to F: The same 4ths tuning. Jordan popularized it (if you can call a handful of players adopting it over the last 40-45 years ‘popularizing’ it. Lol)
I did Major 3rd tuning for a few years. Then I discovered a jazz musician, Ralph Patt, did it in the 1960s. He has a great quote that is basically what you said: "Major 3rd tuning makes all the hard things about the guitar easy and all the easy things hard." Today, you inspired me to try Perfect 4th tuning! I feared learning different tunings would tax my brain but the brain (and muscle memory) is miraculous - the fingers easily switch between the two. Major 3rd tuning felt "blocky" to me but I may have been approaching it wrong. Minor 3rd tuning is amazeballs - Bayan button accordions use this - but it limits the range of notes on a guitar and open chords would definitely be more of a stretch. SUBSCRIBED! All the Best!
Guitar playing at a higher level than usual. He is so fluent, inventive and makes it look effortless. He is also very knowledgeable and conversant with all the pedals/technology etc [the sort of hardware that makes me want to run and hide, when I'm in a guitar shop]. I remember the 4th's tuning thing mentioned in an interview with Dan Armstrong [Guitar magazine Sep '73]. I tried it once for a few minutes but decided not to persist.
Quatro is very popular in South American countries. They have them with four, six, eight or ten strings. If you are interested in playing melodies alone it is the best tuning. The minor fourth intervail is for playing chords and melodies.
Legato (or hammer ons and pull offs more accurately - I guess to other instruments it's kind of different. Just a smooth transitioning between notes) is my favourite guitar thing! I dare say, TQ is the best i've ever seen!! It's so musical and transcends the 'shred' cliches. I hope to learn more and be able to play about 1% of what's seen in this video in my lifetime haha
Funny you said "musical' considering what Tom was doing in this video is anything but musical. It sounded like he was doing scale practice, running up and down his scales with a chord or two thrown in here and there to try and make it sound musical. His technique is excellent but his musicality is awful. Which is why you never see him writing anything worth listening to. He is only famous for his technique, and his sessions with Miller.
@@MindsetMastery75 Yeah...you do have a point there. My other faves are Richie Kotzen, Greg Howe, Brett Garsed etc. I'm not really a jazz/fusion guy either but I think if you bring just a little bit of the technique into blues/rock it spices it up and you can sound more like a horn player. Granted, TQ has no noteworthy recordings :/
Don't forget the other element of legato.. 'hybrid' picking. Once you understand the role played by the middle finger of the pick holding hand, the fluidity is enhanced considerably. It takes takes time & patience to see advancement, but like everything it too becomes second nature with exposure.
How great is it to hear Brett Garsed mentioned, used to go watch him play in town on Wed's nights for $10, those nights were incredible, that guy is amazing, where is he now........
LeStraTele I *thought* he (eventually) did mention Holdsworth, but I just went back and listened to the entire interview again, and apparently I must’ve only imagined it... Bizarre.
Don’t a lot of bassists using 5/6 string instruments tune their first (B) string to C as well? It makes sense even more for bass to keep the arpeggios simple
A couple of Goo Goo Dolls songs uses this tuning. The song Naked is one of them. They utilize that Open C a lot in that song. The chord shapes makes sense to tune it that way. Easier to play.
I used to tune in all 4ths way back in the 1970’s. I found it frustrating to have to compensate for the B string plus I wasn’t interested in playing chords. I reverted to standard tuning in the mid 1980’s.
"Hard to find an amp that's got both" Marshall DSL100HR, thank me later. Even if you only use the classic channel you have a plexi style clean mode and for dirt you have the crunch channel which is like a jcm800. If that's all you used the amp for it would still be worth every penny(and there's a whole other channel with 2 modes for higher gain players). It's the only amp I use now. It has every tone you could want and they all sound good. Great cleans that can even be fender inspired if you roll back the mids(The HR doesn't lack any bass) and bump up the bass if you choose. Anyways I'll stop ranting but I'm dead serious these new Dual Super Lead 100w amps are incredible and the fx loop works excellent if you want something extra. I've got 10 pedals going into mine some up front dome in the loop(a few I built myself). I've had mine since launch about a year and a half ago and couldn't be happier with it. Also if you don't take my word for it take Joe Bonnamessa who used the previous version. And I gaurentee this version is even better in many ways.
Towards the end of the video Tom talks about remembering why we started playing guitar. Well Tom, I started playing guitar to pull chicks, and I'm afraid it didn't work! Well it did once, in Halifax, but that's the exception.
I was skeptical but just about everything is better like this the modes the arpegios the swepping is amazing the olny thing I really miss is knowing the inversions and the pentatonics are slightly harder now
I'm more into lagato. The left hand is faster than the right hand. Your right hand seems quite at rest during your playing. 4ths? That's very interesting. Limited yes, but very applicable. Love it brother. God bless you brother. Why I started playing the guitar was all the wrong reasons after I grew up. Started playing at 8 years old then discovered the girls liked it. Well, sex, drugs and rock and roll was all wrong. Now, I love Jesus and that's the best reason to play that I can think of.
He has said before that he just doesn't 'get' Holdsworth's music. I'm in the same boat tbh, with a few exceptions, AH leaves me a bit cold. Not debating how good a player he was, just not for me.
AC/DC riffs disappear off the planet... THAT line made me laugh! I've actually thought many times about switching to 4ths tuning because my memory sucks bigtime. That half step alteration means I can't remember fingerings worth a shit because they are different, depending on which string the root starts with. With fourths tuning that all disappears. Fingerings are totally consistent no matter which string you start on and chord fingerings do not change for a given voicing no matter which string you start on. That is appealing to me because I have a background in bass... and that is the way a bass is. But there are some other things that are much harder to do with 4ths tuning. So there are trade-offs, such as..... AC/DC riffs disappear off the planet... And we don't want that. I do dabble with the tuning a bit though. It sure makes lead lines easier to visualize across the fingerboard.
then this is the tuning for you......believe me..its a superior tuning for all things jazz...its not as good for strumming. If you decide to go this way check out the facebook group....guitar tuning in 4ths....
He started playing at age 15? Five years later he had a jazz degree? Wow! I started playing at age ten,have played for fifty years ,add another fifty years and I would still not be able to play like he can. It is astonishing to hear a great talent and kind of disheartening to spend a lifetime playing and never mastering your instrument. An innate talent is absolutely necessary to truly master any musical instrument. If you aren’t born with the talent there is no amount of practice,dedication or desire that can make up for it.
Tom is such an amazing player that the only bad thing about him is that you can’t learn his licks in standard tuning. Not that I’d be able to learn them anyway lol
The Erdoys Yeah thats possible but three times as much practice for every chord shape, arpeggio and scale. Thats because the shape changes when the root is on the E, A or D string. Source: I play in all fourths tuning myself. Never going back 😉
Obviously an awesome virtuoso musician but i’m not sure why i’m not impressed but his fusion style of playing. It really comes down to a matter of preferences and tastes in the end but this guy could play just about anything imaginable.
I feel p4 is the way to tune. Standard tuning not being symetric in my oppinion is a huge problem. I think p4 tuning keeps you from playing garbage. Sorry for the strong oppinion.
The guitar is absolutely a symmetrical instrument - it was designed in fifths to exactly match music theory (EADGCF), offering the most number of options to play anything, and not designed for open chords which came later to accommodate (16th C.) folk music. What we call Standard Tuning (CF -->BE) is the special case, not the other way around just as every other alternate tunings are other special variants. www.fender.com/articles/tech-talk/standard-tuning-how-eadgbe-came-to-be
I'd never heard of Tom Quayle. Now I'l never forget him. Wow. What an incredible musician. And seems like such a humble, nice guy. Refreshing.
He's amazing but I personally prefer Martin Millers playing.
Humble is refreshing? Nah. Everyone tries to act humble and personable. Thats boring. cocky and arrogant, now that's fun
Man this guy plays like butter.
soooo... all salty and nice with toast?
He's playing the BUTTER NOTES !! Miles Davis would be proud ^_^
Dave Rucci Check out Guthrie Govan, Thomas McRicklin and Nick Johnston too! I’m sure you’ll dig’m all!
Seriously. I thought Tim Miller had some buttery legato licks going on...
Derek Breeden the Aristocrats are coming to Orlando soon. I really want to see Govan shred! 🙌🏻
This is hands down the best and slickest legato playing i have ever heard. Absolutely stunning.
I love the way Tom explains everything, really clear!
I had never heard Tom before this video, even though I appreciated his signature Ibanez from a distance. He definitely deserves his own model... wow
He is really good. His legato is like butter 😀
It's always fun to hear from Tom - a great player and communicator!
He's a guitar and music ambassador!
Huge technique indeed and the “spider” moving on the fretboard is really awesome. Bravo ! One of the best guitar players of the new generation for sure.
Wow, sounds great,!!! That legato it's interesting. Tom Quayle plays so clean and fast.
Glad to hear Tom giving a shoutout to Tim Miller. That man is the real deal.
yeah Tim Miller is amaaaazing
Such a beast
I didn't think much of his playing till I noticed all of the hybrid picking. He makes it look so easy.
Very smooth right hand going on there. You make it look easy
I tried the tuning and now I can play exactly like him. 🤣
I'm trying the tuning for the first time and it's honestly so cool. it instantly changed the way I play. And the symmetry is really awesome
Damn, that is flawless hybrid picking.
That simple tuning is genius!! How have I not seen 4ths tuning before??? THANK YOU!!!!
if I recall, Stanley Jordan tuned up his B string half step.
LevonsWound ...And the high E string up a half step up to F: The same 4ths tuning. Jordan popularized it (if you can call a handful of players adopting it over the last 40-45 years ‘popularizing’ it. Lol)
@@LevonsWound Stanley plays in perfect 4th tuning.
Great playing, and he seems like a nice guy to. Like that. Back to practicing.
Tom Quayle. The reason why I am now a drummer. 😌
Want me to name you a few awesome drummers so you'll end up playing the recorder? :D
@@Amber57499 dave weckl just jumped into my mind xD
Then you meet Vinnie.... (I recommend the triangle)
As a bass player this is what I wanted to do on a guitar a long time ago
yes yes yes, agreed 100% :)
as a kazoo player i ...*nervousbreakdown
Sometimes 6 string bassists tune the Hi-B to a C.
I did Major 3rd tuning for a few years. Then I discovered a jazz musician, Ralph Patt, did it in the 1960s. He has a great quote that is basically what you said: "Major 3rd tuning makes all the hard things about the guitar easy and all the easy things hard." Today, you inspired me to try Perfect 4th tuning! I feared learning different tunings would tax my brain but the brain (and muscle memory) is miraculous - the fingers easily switch between the two. Major 3rd tuning felt "blocky" to me but I may have been approaching it wrong. Minor 3rd tuning is amazeballs - Bayan button accordions use this - but it limits the range of notes on a guitar and open chords would definitely be more of a stretch. SUBSCRIBED! All the Best!
Unbelievable player and amazingly humble guy!
nice tone, good playing lots of textures
Guitar playing at a higher level than usual. He is so fluent, inventive and makes it look effortless. He is also very knowledgeable and conversant with all the pedals/technology etc
[the sort of hardware that makes me want to run and hide, when I'm in a guitar shop].
I remember the 4th's tuning thing mentioned in an interview with Dan Armstrong [Guitar magazine Sep '73]. I tried it once for a few minutes but decided not to persist.
The left hand gets all the attention, but his hand coordination and hybrid picking technique are as good as it gets.
Wildhearts! Kreisberg! Tim Miller!
life changer! thanks
Glad you brought up Alan Hinds Tom, he make its everything look effortless.
Saw Tom as special guest with Josh Smith in Sheffield, was awesome!
Yeah I hear the Greg Howe but you still shred with your own style. Amazing and I’m going to try 4ths now. (Also I love Jonathan Kreisberg)
This is amazing
Thumbs up for the advice.
And the majority of those influences he listed were spawned by the master Allan Holdsworth
Absolutely. Give credit where credit is due. Holdsworth was and still is the legato master.
Rip!!!
First 10 seconds: Oh jeez, more mathy noodling wankery.
Next 10 seconds: Oh. Oh my that's *smoove*
Unreal technique!
I tune all fourths. Have been for 7 years. When I’m popular this tuning will be the new standard because of the stuff that I have engineered.
God bless you, master Tom !
I’ve been experimenting with 4ths tuning and I love it. you can make blues and country work it just requires a different approach.
Quatro is very popular in South American countries. They have them with four, six, eight or ten strings. If you are interested in playing melodies alone it is the best tuning. The minor fourth intervail is for playing chords and melodies.
Legato (or hammer ons and pull offs more accurately - I guess to other instruments it's kind of different. Just a smooth transitioning between notes) is my favourite guitar thing! I dare say, TQ is the best i've ever seen!! It's so musical and transcends the 'shred' cliches. I hope to learn more and be able to play about 1% of what's seen in this video in my lifetime haha
Funny you said "musical' considering what Tom was doing in this video is anything but musical. It sounded like he was doing scale practice, running up and down his scales with a chord or two thrown in here and there to try and make it sound musical. His technique is excellent but his musicality is awful. Which is why you never see him writing anything worth listening to. He is only famous for his technique, and his sessions with Miller.
@@MindsetMastery75 Yeah...you do have a point there. My other faves are Richie Kotzen, Greg Howe, Brett Garsed etc. I'm not really a jazz/fusion guy either but I think if you bring just a little bit of the technique into blues/rock it spices it up and you can sound more like a horn player. Granted, TQ has no noteworthy recordings :/
Don't forget the other element of legato.. 'hybrid' picking. Once you understand the role played by the middle finger of the pick holding hand, the fluidity is enhanced considerably. It takes takes time & patience to see advancement, but like everything it too becomes second nature with exposure.
very nice interview. Inspiring
If you have an old or spare guitar lying around... Tune to this!
All you need to do is sharp the B and E string. They (probably) won't break.
This man is a genius!
i am also into allan hinds and tim miller, but my biggest influence ever is allan holdsworth - and then you tom quayle :)
the only thing more technical than his playing is his beard.
@John Sagnella "Technically"
Tom is a very noble and intelligent guy.
been a 4ths tuner since 1988 - worked for me till now - i dont play covers or anyone elses material so i dont need standard tuning and confusion
I love the Wildhearts they were so on point all in unison, and great lyrics too. I would struggle with this tuning...
He must be playing Teflon strings to be that slick ;)
@Gerry Berry No...in his Synapes & Neurons.! The brain.
@Gerry Berry Jealous much?
First learned of Tom from Brian Wampler of Wampler pedals... very tasteful player, and a gifted artist.
How great is it to hear Brett Garsed mentioned, used to go watch him play in town on Wed's nights for $10, those nights were incredible, that guy is amazing, where is he now........
Tom is a monster! His technique and style is as recognisable as someone like Frank Gambale, Holdsworth etc...
Sweet holy lord this guy is absolutely killing it. Good grief.
He could totally shred a b-bender guitar, since he knows all the chords on both ends of the bend if he sets it to a 1/2 step bend
man, such nice even 16ths!
Play like that and never mention Allan Holdsworth?
Strange.
U mean that Allan used this tuning?
@@cricri8022 no I think they mean that allan was the master of legato
LeStraTele I agree, that’s odd.
Yes, I thought he had to go out of his way to not mention him.
LeStraTele I *thought* he (eventually) did mention Holdsworth, but I just went back and listened to the entire interview again, and apparently I must’ve only imagined it... Bizarre.
Don’t a lot of bassists using 5/6 string instruments tune their first (B) string to C as well? It makes sense even more for bass to keep the arpeggios simple
Yeah, bassists who use a high string on a 5-er usually go EADGC, and for a six string it's BEADGC
Too Awesome 🍁🌌
2007 called and asked for their AV-sync back.
such crazy amount of even strength and consistency across all fingers. his legato sounds buttery smooth
I'd like to try All Fourths tuning on a 22-EDO guitar. Or maybe on a 24 note per octave setup.
Greg howe brett garsed those are the ones who truly deserve the credit :)
A couple of Goo Goo Dolls songs uses this tuning. The song Naked is one of them. They utilize that Open C a lot in that song. The chord shapes makes sense to tune it that way. Easier to play.
I used to tune in all 4ths way back in the 1970’s. I found it frustrating to have to compensate for the B string plus I wasn’t interested in playing chords. I reverted to standard tuning in the mid 1980’s.
never heard of this guy now i know
I wanna be his student for real
The wildhearts!
I'm surprised Alan Holdsworth wasn't mentioned for his influences
"Hard to find an amp that's got both" Marshall DSL100HR, thank me later. Even if you only use the classic channel you have a plexi style clean mode and for dirt you have the crunch channel which is like a jcm800. If that's all you used the amp for it would still be worth every penny(and there's a whole other channel with 2 modes for higher gain players). It's the only amp I use now. It has every tone you could want and they all sound good. Great cleans that can even be fender inspired if you roll back the mids(The HR doesn't lack any bass) and bump up the bass if you choose. Anyways I'll stop ranting but I'm dead serious these new Dual Super Lead 100w amps are incredible and the fx loop works excellent if you want something extra. I've got 10 pedals going into mine some up front dome in the loop(a few I built myself). I've had mine since launch about a year and a half ago and couldn't be happier with it. Also if you don't take my word for it take Joe Bonnamessa who used the previous version. And I gaurentee this version is even better in many ways.
Towards the end of the video Tom talks about remembering why we started playing guitar. Well Tom, I started playing guitar to pull chicks, and I'm afraid it didn't work! Well it did once, in Halifax, but that's the exception.
This is like learning chess and then changing the rules. New rules could be fun but the old ones are enough for me.
Allen Hinds! ❤️
Unknown to me. I need to check him out obviously !!
Legend!!
" Very Special Teacheing on Istructionaly Guitar Player ". .. So' Good ... ☺😊😉/💙💙💙/👍✌👌👏👋
Greg howe,tune the guitar the same?
I was skeptical but just about everything is better like this the modes the arpegios the swepping is amazing the olny thing I really miss is knowing the inversions and the pentatonics are slightly harder now
Stanley Jordan also uses all fourths tuning if I'm not mistaken
Did he mention the amp ? Laney ironheart ?
I'm more into lagato. The left hand is faster than the right hand. Your right hand seems quite at rest during your playing. 4ths? That's very interesting. Limited yes, but very applicable. Love it brother. God bless you brother.
Why I started playing the guitar was all the wrong reasons after I grew up. Started playing at 8 years old then discovered the girls liked it. Well, sex, drugs and rock and roll was all wrong. Now, I love Jesus and that's the best reason to play that I can think of.
If you practice a lot perhaps you could record with discharge or broken bones?
That's the oddest comment of the day. :) ... and yes, I know who those bands are from back in the 80s.
Man allen Hinds is amazing!
You better watch out. There's an angry mob here who ernestly believes that there is only room for one Allan in these comments!
Only tuning I know, now I'm trying to learn standard tuning and find it confusing
It's almost like he doesn't want to mention the one guy who influenced them all. Allan Holdsworth.
I thought he was going to say him, but nope, Alan Hines. holdsworth is #1 for me.
Well said...Holdsworth influenced them all.
Maybe he wasn't a fucking influence of his.
He has said before that he just doesn't 'get' Holdsworth's music. I'm in the same boat tbh, with a few exceptions, AH leaves me a bit cold. Not debating how good a player he was, just not for me.
He has an Allan Holdsworth lesson on RUclips. Believe me. He's a fan.
I feel like literally everybody plays an HSS Ibanez now
AC/DC riffs disappear off the planet...
THAT line made me laugh! I've actually thought many times about switching to 4ths tuning because my memory sucks bigtime. That half step alteration means I can't remember fingerings worth a shit because they are different, depending on which string the root starts with. With fourths tuning that all disappears. Fingerings are totally consistent no matter which string you start on and chord fingerings do not change for a given voicing no matter which string you start on. That is appealing to me because I have a background in bass... and that is the way a bass is. But there are some other things that are much harder to do with 4ths tuning. So there are trade-offs, such as..... AC/DC riffs disappear off the planet... And we don't want that. I do dabble with the tuning a bit though. It sure makes lead lines easier to visualize across the fingerboard.
All you need now are some biscuits to smear that delicious butter Legato
all of it sounds the same to me, not enough variation. Sounds like he's playing excercises all the time too.
Exactly! No musicality whatsoever. Sounds mechanical and like her is constantly doing scale runs for practice.
I would love to learn Jazz. i haven't any knowledge in scales or anything, however. Struggling to find out where to start...
then this is the tuning for you......believe me..its a superior tuning for all things jazz...its not as good for strumming. If you decide to go this way check out the facebook group....guitar tuning in 4ths....
Start with the C major scale
Thanks, guys :)
I was in that facebook group and got reprimanded for mentioning another alternate tuning. Ridiculous!
Musicians don't get old🤔
Like watching magic:)
He started playing at age 15? Five years later he had a jazz degree? Wow! I started playing at age ten,have played for fifty years ,add another fifty years and I would still not be able to play like he can. It is astonishing to hear a great talent and kind of disheartening to spend a lifetime playing and never mastering your instrument. An innate talent is absolutely necessary to truly master any musical instrument. If you aren’t born with the talent there is no amount of practice,dedication or desire that can make up for it.
Tom is such an amazing player that the only bad thing about him is that you can’t learn his licks in standard tuning. Not that I’d be able to learn them anyway lol
What if the extra step just becomes natural? Not having to figure it out because you just know it?
The Erdoys Yeah thats possible but three times as much practice for every chord shape, arpeggio and scale. Thats because the shape changes when the root is on the E, A or D string. Source: I play in all fourths tuning myself. Never going back 😉
Cool Ibanez!
didn't know an Ibanez could play so sweet
Obviously an awesome virtuoso musician but i’m not sure why i’m not impressed but his fusion style of playing. It really comes down to a matter of preferences and tastes in the end but this guy could play just about anything imaginable.
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiick
If the ac/dc riffs are the sacrifices to be like you then..... Its' a deal😂😂 i love Acdc though😉
Guitar Did you know that Bajo Sexto players tune this way too?
I feel p4 is the way to tune. Standard tuning not being symetric in my oppinion is a huge problem. I think p4 tuning keeps you from playing garbage. Sorry for the strong oppinion.
You still playing in p4?
@@shitmandood yes !
You're a big legato player and you didn't mention Holdsworth as a major influence? Ah, I guess that's a name that is just "a given"....right? 😉🤘🎵
The guitar is absolutely a symmetrical instrument - it was designed in fifths to exactly match music theory (EADGCF), offering the most number of options to play anything, and not designed for open chords which came later to accommodate (16th C.) folk music.
What we call Standard Tuning (CF -->BE) is the special case, not the other way around just as every other alternate tunings are other special variants.
www.fender.com/articles/tech-talk/standard-tuning-how-eadgbe-came-to-be
isnt the auido vs video out of sync when he's playing!?