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Do you have any dynos on zapco or anything that is top quality. I feel that it would be cool to get a old school amplifier with a new gen models and see if one is better
Damn. I knew the first amp was too good to be true. I had really high hopes that Soundstream might be trying to pull themselves out of the swap meet line of amps. Thank you for testing the 4 channel.
Damn good numbers for a full range amp!...not many SQ speakers can take 100 watts RMS!!!....im getting this one and the monoblock!...i have old school Soundstream reference amps and they weren't no where close to these numbers and Soundstream isn't really a bass competitor so for th to make a monoblock that makes close to making rated is a big deal!...and the prices aren't too bad either!
Be pretty cool if they had end caps for sale so we can mount multiples side by side and have the cap in the middle, remember old school amps used to do this, would be pretty nice for these. And damn it rate it accurately!
@@dirtysouthtv2209 idk man ppi had some solid amps and orion was infamous for at least 2 amps that i remember that could run down to .25 ohm stereo...nothing to sneeze at...not trying to argue with you, just sayin but yeah soundstream...highly sought after back then...sad that it doesnt seem to be the company i remember😥
@@cpufrost yeah a/d/s too...haven't been keeping track of car stereo for awhile though...still around? If so...haven't gone the soundstream route have they?
In my opinion, the numbers the amp did are not bad at all. If they would just rate this amp for what it does versus heavily inflating then I don’t think anyone would look twice. It’s just a bad look when a company does this regardless of what the dyno numbers are. You’d think that they would get their acts together knowing guys like you are out their keeping them honest and calling them out on their BS when this happens. Keep up the great work “D” 👍
For what it cost and what it does , still sounds like a great deal. I would buy this over brazillian 4 channels just for looks and filtering capabilities alone. Plenty enough power to run a killer pro audio mids and highs setup.👍
Regardless of what the numbers are in the manual, it is still well in line with the the dyno run numbers and the price. Unfortunately unfortunately at the same time, wattage isn't everything. I seriously doubt anyone would buy it if it made rated power at 1% distortion with a signal to noise ratio of 70%. But it's 80% efficient, 105 DB signal-to-noise ratio, well under 1% distortion, the size of a thick cell phone, and looks beautiful! I would love to give this an extensive listening run in a SQ system for the amp can be tuned and listened to because this is the most important part of an amplifier after all. This is a great video and at least we know what we're starting with if we decide to get it.
I came up when $1 a watt was an amazing value, so no complaint on this amp. Too bad the Soundstream name doesn’t mean what it used to. My unicorn were the Reference Series (around ‘98).
Is there a searchable database of tested amps anywhere? I'd like to compare apples to apples - meaning tested specs and prices rather than marketing hype. For instance, let's say I'm looking for tested and proven 90-110W either monoblock or x2ch, regardless of how it's hyped. Then I can start comparing prices. Google seems useless.
Pay more money for product brands that are reknown to pride themselves in quality and no bullshit. Otherwise, QC and certifications like ISO mean fuxking nothing. They're just there to make it harder for small businesses to thrive while big corporations can just lobby and throw cash at the regulatory bodies to let the bullshit fly. How the f can anyone know what they're buying these days when something so blatant is allowed on the market? Answer is at the beginning of my rant 😐
I am actually on the market for a 1,000 watt system so even though it didn't meet rated power I'm sold 500+ watts x2 Loving that effeciency!! And the amp looks cool Hell yeaj
I just got one. For me the tested power is more than enough for what I have going on. I have the mono block and it seems to power my Diamond Audio 15 without any issues.
Also the Rockville’s db45 4 channel is definitely killing this 4 channel! across the power range doing over its rated power and the price is lower at 139.99 Is what I believe I got my new 4 channel for
I'm still gonna buy it and the monoblock for my ole skool Cutlass Soundstream amps never were the most powerful but had a beautiful sound quality and thats what I'm looking for...hopefully Epsilon didn't ruin that too!
They should actually put on the box what it does and sale them at around $180 that would be a good deal i only buy amps that was dyno tuned so I atleast know what I'm getting
@@wal yes me too i heard that brand been really good in the past I watch you and other youtubers that dyno amplifiers and buy mine that way i bought one in the past because of you so thank you for taking the time and money to dyno amplifiers I appreciate it man
Might get flame sprayed for this but it’s a pretty solid amp for mids and tweets. How much more power than 100 watts do you need to drive your average car speakers? I am still trying to wrap my head around budget amps putting out 1000 or more watts. As a SQ competitor in the 90’s I never considered needing that kind of power unless you were an SPL person. I sat in a SQ vehicle about 3 years ago and I have no idea what was in it but it was the loudest SQ vehicle I have ever heard. The owner kept telling me to turn it up and it was so loud I never hit full volume. It sounded awesome but it reinforces my opinion on whether or not you actually need much power on your mids and highs. I think 100 watts is plenty and 125 or 135 is pretty much overkill but 150+ is insane. Mind you, I am talking mids and highs for actual real world listening. Competition is understandably a time and place to show off and have a bit of overkill. SPL competition is a completely different beast and I can’t think of any reason why you would choose a 1 ohm stable 4 channel over a giant mono sub amp. I also don’t think they are that great looking. I like the newish MB Quart Formula series looks but I don’t believe that they make power. Maybe the monos if they are class D. No way the class a/b stereo and multi channels. Also, I can’t help but think about ripping off “Who’s Line is it Anyway” when watching modern amp tests. “Welcome to Who’s Amp is it Anyway, where the THD doesn’t matter and the ratings are made up!” 🤣
I'll say this, Thats good value for the money. Id use them if I was just getting into car audio. Pretty solid amp. Just because they dont make the "rated" power doesnt meanb they are bad. Just a shame the company has to advertise specifically to the "Big Number" crowd
yeah.....I'm going to need you to come in on Saturday to make up lost wattage.......ummmm,,,i'm going to need you to come in on Sunday also. - Bill Lumbergh
While I relish the days of running my Soundstream Reference amps...to be fair; I think the only thing ruffling feathers here is what they rated the amp at vs output. 100w x 4 @4Ω for $200 is nothing to be disappointed in. Thinking back, the Ref 644 was rated for less (75w x 4 @ 4Ω) at $700msrp? in 1995 dollars! Granted it probably put out closer to 100w per channel...but still. What I wish is that Soundstream still made their own boards etc like Rockford does. Instead we get cookie cutter build house designs. Sigh...
First of all I love your channel maybe I did not meet the goal of the watts but I find it an excellent option since I have struggled to find an amplifier so I avoid buying so many and putting them in bridge nomas you lack to take the temperature with infrared.. greetings friend
You know back in the day, I am in Metro phoenix, but the bigger amp companies put out one great series after another. But all the companies that started to outsource once the hobby became bigger and attracted more people that wanted builds but not to compete, the series became hit and miss. Sadly Soundstream amps fell into that as well. Descent power but it was all about the looks.... You can, for the most part, tell by the price. Efficiency wise these would be awesome for builds where you get plenty of output, minor electrical upgrade and most importantly..... looks. Thanks for all the hard work with the videos over the years.
I bought one of these to put in my road king to power some 6.5 rockford and some 6x9 soundstream.. i couldn't even turn up the gain to a 1/4 without clipping. So I installed the old amp I was running before soundstream st4 1200. Sounds great and can blast it loud and no clipping
This saddens me. I grew up with soundstream in the mid 90's. Loved the reference series amps. Sad to see them selling out. Oh, well. Not suprised. As much as I hate to say it, but as time goes on regulation seems more and more ideal these days.
It looks like when the manual went to print, the ratings were one number off (4 ohm rating was actually the 2 ohm rating, 2 ohm rating was actually the 1 ohm rating. Maybe there was an 8 ohm rating???). I don't think it did too bad however.
As far as Midbass and Highs, that amp sounded really good for those bookshelf speakers. I'd suspect that amp to be a very good rear door mid-sub amp for a pair of 6-8" midbass crossover subs.
I had the old school soundstream amp and it done real good for me. That amp surprised me unless their newer amps arent made the same since its all from the same company or at least i think they all came from the same place Derek.
Well, I guess it shows that some amp's of a line up do not necessary reflect other amp's of the line up. Hopefully Soundstream see's this, and fixes their embarrassing overrating on this amp - outside that, I don't see it as a bad amp beyond that.
100 x 2 @ 4 Ohms and 500 x 1 @ 2 Ohms is great for a small system. Not half bad for $220, just need to rate it honestly. Wonder how it compares to the Sundown SFB 200.4 that retails for $220 as well.
Yeah 90ish watts x2 is plenty to push a decent set of components, and 500ish x1 is plenty to push a single 12. The only issue here is the bogus ratings. Looks like a decent amp and a good deal overall
What a shame. I remember the big blue Soundstream 6 channel amp that would power your whole system. You could bridge channels to power your front speakers including 3 way, power 1 or 2 subs with the rear channels. Darlington outputs that easily made more than the rated power. Surely not a budget amp but you could rely on the specs which are needed to set up your system. Oh well.
Actually those number are good. If you get 2x94w + 540w you can easily drive basic system and with right sub it will Be loud. But those ratings are Bull shit. There was Time when Soundstream under rated their amps. I still got that old first series Rubicon 204 wich was rated 4x25w and made 4x38w and 2x138w.
id buy it .. advertising or no thats still a solid 100x4 for a decent price as some one once said soundstream had good stuff that did rated but no one wanted to pay the price and only wanted cheap stuff now the numbers are getting better but now its nothing but complaints still sure ss arent what they used to be but they still keep alot of folks bumpin
Williston Audio Labs It’s okay Mr. Thumb head, you make up for it in personality and honesty. P.s. I shave my head bald voluntarily because my cheap ass don’t feel like paying for haircuts anymore. I’m a factory worker and as hard as it is to make a living; I’m tired of paying a fee plus tip every other month just for that money to go down the drain so it’s cheap walmart DIY clippers for me! 🤪 Stay awesome my guy! 😁
3500 wax max. I bet some guy in coocoo land was like, let's multiply the max watts by PI 3.14 out of no where. So they got 700 watts x 2 = 1400 watts x 3.14 = 4396 watts and then said its 80% efficent so that's 3516 watts at 14.4v but everyone complains of those ratings so lets rate it at 13.37v and let's put 3500 watts Max.
Over 1000w stereo is still pretty nuts though for the money. There was a time when people would have laughed at you if you said you had a single amp capable of this that wasn't a thousand dollars.
Making a request for a upcoming dyno! I would love to see the new Rockville db comp 5, I’m running 1 right now on 2 hdx3 18s, then I’ll be strapping a pair together here very soon! I’m seeing great results from these amplifiers! Also the amps are pretty much identical after checking the guys! to the dc 3.5k crescendos bc3500 I believe it is as well as the sundown 3.5k...so I feel like these amps are right up your alley!
Yeah it looks bad for Soundstream to not reach the implied rms output but to get that kind of power for that price is pretty good for budget minded buyers. Regardless of it not reaching its numbers it's still a good amplifier in my opinion.
Hey i watch your videos all the time! Deff one of my favorite channels !!! , but i have one question. How do you usually set the gains on the amps before you test them?
So basically sound stream lies to you twice... says 3500 then the rms rating and they both fail... WHAT JUNK FOR AMPS WHAT A JUNK BRAND IN THE 90s this brand was pretty dope
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Can you make a video how you set gain before the Dyno?
Do you have any dynos on zapco or anything that is top quality. I feel that it would be cool to get a old school amplifier with a new gen models and see if one is better
U should do a review on the soundstream t5 15 inch sub
I wanna know whether it's a budget bust or budget gem. it's rated at 1000 rms for 200$
The real measurements weren't all that bad. So of they'd just been honest about it and price it for the right target market.
All they have to do is just RATE THE AMPS CORRECTLY! Great video!
The two amps together would still be one solid system ! IMO
Im glad you tested this amplifier i was very curious about it. Great Job
Decent amp for the money. It’s a shame they rate them the way they do tho... Great video as always
Fo sho, thanks homie 🤘
And D even used OFC 😂
Robert Van Hoy shots fired!
@@thenotoriousrvh6091 Ouch! But that's funny though
@@HifiVega ❤ shaped bean bags 😂
Damn. I knew the first amp was too good to be true. I had really high hopes that Soundstream might be trying to pull themselves out of the swap meet line of amps. Thank you for testing the 4 channel.
honestly, even though it didnt do rated power, thats still pretty nice power, if it was rated accordingly it would still sell good
Damn good numbers for a full range amp!...not many SQ speakers can take 100 watts RMS!!!....im getting this one and the monoblock!...i have old school Soundstream reference amps and they weren't no where close to these numbers and Soundstream isn't really a bass competitor so for th to make a monoblock that makes close to making rated is a big deal!...and the prices aren't too bad either!
Like most amps... if they rated them honestly they could get some good sells.
Always awesome to watch your videos. I'm never let down by your info👍👍
Be pretty cool if they had end caps for sale so we can mount multiples side by side and have the cap in the middle, remember old school amps used to do this, would be pretty nice for these. And damn it rate it accurately!
1200 watt rms 4 channel amp is pretty awesome. I didn’t think it was going to break 60wpch
Good Video as always thanks Big D. I think everyone wants to know about the 12k & 18k real numbers.
I bet!
I really wish they would rate the amps right. It has plenty of power and the efficiency is good. Awesome video Big D!!
I’ll be happy to do beta testing and help with those ratings
So sad....im old enough to remember when soundstream was kick ass...up there with orion and ppi
Exactly! Don't forget a/d/s ;-D
They were better than both back in the day.
@@dirtysouthtv2209 idk man ppi had some solid amps and orion was infamous for at least 2 amps that i remember that could run down to .25 ohm stereo...nothing to sneeze at...not trying to argue with you, just sayin but yeah soundstream...highly sought after back then...sad that it doesnt seem to be the company i remember😥
@@cpufrost yeah a/d/s too...haven't been keeping track of car stereo for awhile though...still around? If so...haven't gone the soundstream route have they?
I sold one of my 90's Soundstream amps on Ebay and can't believe how much I got for it. It turned into a bidding war for that blue baby.
In my opinion, the numbers the amp did are not bad at all. If they would just rate this amp for what it does versus heavily inflating then I don’t think anyone would look twice. It’s just a bad look when a company does this regardless of what the dyno numbers are. You’d think that they would get their acts together knowing guys like you are out their keeping them honest and calling them out on their BS when this happens. Keep up the great work “D” 👍
only channel i watch the video before scrolling to the comments. Great work again man. bringing the truth to the industry!
and for the size and output, they could have just rated it correctly and had a gem in their lineup
Your test book shelf speakers sound really good..even thru my cell phone speakers
I think they sound great too 🤟
For what it cost and what it does , still sounds like a great deal. I would buy this over brazillian 4 channels just for looks and filtering capabilities alone. Plenty enough power to run a killer pro audio mids and highs setup.👍
It should do well 👌
Regardless of what the numbers are in the manual, it is still well in line with the the dyno run numbers and the price. Unfortunately unfortunately at the same time, wattage isn't everything.
I seriously doubt anyone would buy it if it made rated power at 1% distortion with a signal to noise ratio of 70%.
But it's 80% efficient, 105 DB signal-to-noise ratio, well under 1% distortion, the size of a thick cell phone, and looks beautiful!
I would love to give this an extensive listening run in a SQ system for the amp can be tuned and listened to because this is the most important part of an amplifier after all.
This is a great video and at least we know what we're starting with if we decide to get it.
I came up when $1 a watt was an amazing value, so no complaint on this amp. Too bad the Soundstream name doesn’t mean what it used to. My unicorn were the Reference Series (around ‘98).
Is there a searchable database of tested amps anywhere? I'd like to compare apples to apples - meaning tested specs and prices rather than marketing hype.
For instance, let's say I'm looking for tested and proven 90-110W either monoblock or x2ch, regardless of how it's hyped. Then I can start comparing prices. Google seems useless.
Pay more money for product brands that are reknown to pride themselves in quality and no bullshit. Otherwise, QC and certifications like ISO mean fuxking nothing. They're just there to make it harder for small businesses to thrive while big corporations can just lobby and throw cash at the regulatory bodies to let the bullshit fly. How the f can anyone know what they're buying these days when something so blatant is allowed on the market? Answer is at the beginning of my rant 😐
I am actually on the market for a 1,000 watt system so even though it didn't meet rated power I'm sold
500+ watts x2
Loving that effeciency!!
And the amp looks cool
Hell yeaj
Thank you for testing the 4 channel version i was waiting to see this test nuff respect 🇯🇲 🇺🇸
Interesting how there is no fan on this one. The TXP2 2 channel has a fan, I'd be interested to see if that one does closer to rated power...
I just got one.
For me the tested power is more than enough for what I have going on.
I have the mono block and it seems to power my Diamond Audio 15 without any issues.
After the reference series died, so did the real sound stream!
For my money nothing beats Skar amps when on a tight budget. Always get higher than rated power for really cheap price.
Also the Rockville’s db45 4 channel is definitely killing this 4 channel! across the power range doing over its rated power and the price is lower at 139.99 Is what I believe I got my new 4 channel for
Love your videos. Always happy when I see you've posted a new one.
Thanks bud 👌
Am I the only one that thought power was good for the price point? I like it. Soundstream always inflates their numbers and we all already knew that.
I would buy it
We really need the 18000D tested! I'd love to see that video!!
I have one and it’s in the plans
@@wal Can't wait!
I'm still gonna buy it and the monoblock for my ole skool Cutlass Soundstream amps never were the most powerful but had a beautiful sound quality and thats what I'm looking for...hopefully Epsilon didn't ruin that too!
I dont know about the amp but those Elacs sound awesome!
Yeah boi! They are 6 ohms also, so good for car audio amps
They should actually put on the box what it does and sale them at around $180 that would be a good deal i only buy amps that was dyno tuned so I atleast know what I'm getting
Unfortunately this shows the importance of testing all amps in a line. I really thought these would all be legit based on the Monoblock
@@wal yes me too i heard that brand been really good in the past I watch you and other youtubers that dyno amplifiers and buy mine that way i bought one in the past because of you so thank you for taking the time and money to dyno amplifiers I appreciate it man
Might get flame sprayed for this but it’s a pretty solid amp for mids and tweets. How much more power than 100 watts do you need to drive your average car speakers? I am still trying to wrap my head around budget amps putting out 1000 or more watts. As a SQ competitor in the 90’s I never considered needing that kind of power unless you were an SPL person. I sat in a SQ vehicle about 3 years ago and I have no idea what was in it but it was the loudest SQ vehicle I have ever heard. The owner kept telling me to turn it up and it was so loud I never hit full volume. It sounded awesome but it reinforces my opinion on whether or not you actually need much power on your mids and highs. I think 100 watts is plenty and 125 or 135 is pretty much overkill but 150+ is insane. Mind you, I am talking mids and highs for actual real world listening. Competition is understandably a time and place to show off and have a bit of overkill. SPL competition is a completely different beast and I can’t think of any reason why you would choose a 1 ohm stable 4 channel over a giant mono sub amp. I also don’t think they are that great looking. I like the newish MB Quart Formula series looks but I don’t believe that they make power. Maybe the monos if they are class D. No way the class a/b stereo and multi channels. Also, I can’t help but think about ripping off “Who’s Line is it Anyway” when watching modern amp tests. “Welcome to Who’s Amp is it Anyway, where the THD doesn’t matter and the ratings are made up!” 🤣
Thanks for watching and commenting!
This amp is a good deal. Met ratings?? No. Still a ton of power for the money. Soundstream baby!!!💪💪💪
Just be honest
I'll say this, Thats good value for the money. Id use them if I was just getting into car audio. Pretty solid amp. Just because they dont make the "rated" power doesnt meanb they are bad. Just a shame the company has to advertise specifically to the "Big Number" crowd
That’s the point I’m trying to make here. Sounds good, does good power, no reason to bump up those numbers
People, just because Epsilon lied about the wattage ratings, that doesnt make this a bad amplifier.
True, but I don't like doing business with people that lie to me.
Glad to see you review this amp!!!!
Would be a GREAT amp,
If they rated it correctly.
They got me, I bought 3 different amps in this line. Still dig them
What a damn shame! I was really considering running these amps next year based on the last amp dyno
Dope as always.... I miss my old heavy blue original soundstream amps..
Thanks for reviewing this Big D.
yeah.....I'm going to need you to come in on Saturday to make up lost wattage.......ummmm,,,i'm going to need you to come in on Sunday also. - Bill Lumbergh
“That’d be great”...🙄
@@x0xCRUSHERx0x yeeaaaahhhhh
I really like Soundstream and Hifonics for the money.
I was watching budget gem or bust when this popped up.
Ryan has been dripping vids lately 👌
$200 for 100x4 is still damn decent, most amps in that power range are $300+
It really does look pretty nice....
While I relish the days of running my Soundstream Reference amps...to be fair; I think the only thing ruffling feathers here is what they rated the amp at vs output. 100w x 4 @4Ω for $200 is nothing to be disappointed in. Thinking back, the Ref 644 was rated for less (75w x 4 @ 4Ω) at $700msrp? in 1995 dollars! Granted it probably put out closer to 100w per channel...but still. What I wish is that Soundstream still made their own boards etc like Rockford does. Instead we get cookie cutter build house designs. Sigh...
Yup, I'm good with the power it does put out. Disappointed that the owners don't just put the he real numbers on them.
First of all I love your channel maybe I did not meet the goal of the watts but I find it an excellent option since I have struggled to find an amplifier so I avoid buying so many and putting them in bridge nomas you lack to take the temperature with infrared.. greetings friend
Seeing this makes me want to go to China and start a consulting service for the build houses.
Do it 👌
Big D could you verify that the clipping light works and it's actually comparable to the smd ad1 system?
I was also very interested and hoped it was covered.
Think im going to pick one up for my truck.
You know back in the day, I am in Metro phoenix, but the bigger amp companies put out one great series after another.
But all the companies that started to outsource once the hobby became bigger and attracted more people that wanted builds but not to compete, the series became hit and miss.
Sadly Soundstream amps fell into that as well.
Descent power but it was all about the looks....
You can, for the most part, tell by the price.
Efficiency wise these would be awesome for builds where you get plenty of output, minor electrical upgrade and most importantly..... looks.
Thanks for all the hard work with the videos over the years.
Still want the amp i have the txp 1.6000 and it pounds and sounds great love the look
Probably would be a decent amp if they would rate it correctly and price it accordingly.
Well, that test wasn't what I had hoped for.. Still on the hunt for the perfect budget 4 channel or 5 channel..
All they had to do was rate the amp correctly. It wouldn’t be a bad amp for the money, but I can’t trust them after this.
I bought one of these to put in my road king to power some 6.5 rockford and some 6x9 soundstream.. i couldn't even turn up the gain to a 1/4 without clipping. So I installed the old amp I was running before soundstream st4 1200. Sounds great and can blast it loud and no clipping
This saddens me. I grew up with soundstream in the mid 90's. Loved the reference series amps. Sad to see them selling out. Oh, well. Not suprised. As much as I hate to say it, but as time goes on regulation seems more and more ideal these days.
It looks like when the manual went to print, the ratings were one number off (4 ohm rating was actually the 2 ohm rating, 2 ohm rating was actually the 1 ohm rating. Maybe there was an 8 ohm rating???). I don't think it did too bad however.
As far as Midbass and Highs, that amp sounded really good for those bookshelf speakers. I'd suspect that amp to be a very good rear door mid-sub amp for a pair of 6-8" midbass crossover subs.
Whenever I think of this brand, these are the results I think of
I had the old school soundstream amp and it done real good for me. That amp surprised me unless their newer amps arent made the same since its all from the same company or at least i think they all came from the same place Derek.
Thanks big d needed something to cheer me up today 🙏 feehhh!
👌😬👍
would be a nice amp if they rated it correctly!
Well, I guess it shows that some amp's of a line up do not necessary reflect other amp's of the line up. Hopefully Soundstream see's this, and fixes their embarrassing overrating on this amp - outside that, I don't see it as a bad amp beyond that.
Right. But 95 vs 140 watts is quite a discrepancy 🤦♂️
@@wal Agreed - that's why I hope they see this video and fix the embarrassing ratings they gave it (prob too hopeful, but I'll still hope).
Used to respect this manufacturer in the 90s...how time moves on
100 x 2 @ 4 Ohms and 500 x 1 @ 2 Ohms is great for a small system. Not half bad for $220, just need to rate it honestly. Wonder how it compares to the Sundown SFB 200.4 that retails for $220 as well.
Yeah 90ish watts x2 is plenty to push a decent set of components, and 500ish x1 is plenty to push a single 12. The only issue here is the bogus ratings. Looks like a decent amp and a good deal overall
@@303nitzubishi4 I agree. Not a bad deal really. Just can't get behind a company that lies so blatantly.
I would like to see you dyno a powerbass ACS500D 1 ohm stable
The power it puts out is pretty impressive! Why dont they just advertise the honest ratings?!?
Damn just when I thought they were getting their shit together🤦🏻♂️
No fusing on the amp? Guess they heard about that “Big Dummy Math”! You got ‘em scared, Big D!!! 👻 😆
Orion 4 channel would be nice to see
yeah 425 HCCA
What a shame. I remember the big blue Soundstream 6 channel amp that would power your whole system. You could bridge channels to power your front speakers including 3 way, power 1 or 2 subs with the rear channels. Darlington outputs that easily made more than the rated power.
Surely not a budget amp but you could rely on the specs which are needed to set up your system. Oh well.
Actually those number are good. If you get 2x94w + 540w you can easily drive basic system and with right sub it will Be loud. But those ratings are Bull shit. There was Time when Soundstream under rated their amps. I still got that old first series Rubicon 204 wich was rated 4x25w and made 4x38w and 2x138w.
Even though its not making rated its still pretty strong
So sad what became of Soundstream...and every other U.S. made amp from the 80's-90's.
Yeah. Rockford is the last honest one from that era.
Moving up in Elac world i see. Good stuff m8
I got the UB5’s when they were being closed out for half price. Wow they are amazing sounding speakers!
@@wal that's a real bargin 😀
I'd still buy it what full range speaker could take this much power RMS???
You would need several of the pro audio style mids/tweets
Crazy bass on that UB5
sound quality is good dont try to shake the walls with it.
Is it possible to get a dyno video of the 1000watt picasso 4 channel amp 🙏🏽
id buy it .. advertising or no thats still a solid 100x4 for a decent price as some one once said soundstream had good stuff that did rated but no one wanted to pay the price and only wanted cheap stuff now the numbers are getting better but now its nothing but complaints still sure ss arent what they used to be but they still keep alot of folks bumpin
So sick of the lies.
I think it's ugly. I get that some people like the look, and that's OK. It's just not my cup of tea and I don't think the look will age well.
It’s cool some people think I’m ugly too 😂
Williston Audio Labs It’s okay Mr. Thumb head, you make up for it in personality and honesty.
P.s. I shave my head bald voluntarily because my cheap ass don’t feel like paying for haircuts anymore. I’m a factory worker and as hard as it is to make a living; I’m tired of paying a fee plus tip every other month just for that money to go down the drain so it’s cheap walmart DIY clippers for me! 🤪
Stay awesome my guy! 😁
3500 wax max. I bet some guy in coocoo land was like, let's multiply the max watts by PI 3.14 out of no where. So they got 700 watts x 2 = 1400 watts x 3.14 = 4396 watts and then said its 80% efficent so that's 3516 watts at 14.4v but everyone complains of those ratings so lets rate it at 13.37v and let's put 3500 watts Max.
Thumbs up for you big D, thumbs down for Soundstream.
Over 1000w stereo is still pretty nuts though for the money. There was a time when people would have laughed at you if you said you had a single amp capable of this that wasn't a thousand dollars.
Compared to the 4ch 1200x4 or 2000x4 from Taramps, it's not that great a deal.
Love the Intro track.
Thanks brother 👌
Great video again
Does anyone know the name of the first track played on the speaker test?
It’s Millitaire Electronic by Kevin MacLeod (in RUclips Audio Library)
@@wal cheers big D, that was my favourite track in this test. You always play some good beats. Thanks for sharing : )
fellow Yorkshireman Yes, by a Country mile that was the sweetest track.
Making a request for a upcoming dyno! I would love to see the new Rockville db comp 5, I’m running 1 right now on 2 hdx3 18s, then I’ll be strapping a pair together here very soon! I’m seeing great results from these amplifiers! Also the amps are pretty much identical after checking the guys! to the dc 3.5k crescendos bc3500 I believe it is as well as the sundown 3.5k...so I feel like these amps are right up your alley!
You have to wonder just how these companies are testing their products in-house.
Yeah it looks bad for Soundstream to not reach the implied rms output but to get that kind of power for that price is pretty good for budget minded buyers. Regardless of it not reaching its numbers it's still a good amplifier in my opinion.
Hey i watch your videos all the time! Deff one of my favorite channels !!! , but i have one question. How do you usually set the gains on the amps before you test them?
Has anybody tested the 2ch 3500? I'm a bit curious if it comes up short like this one... Looks like a very versatile amp though...
I meant the txp2.6500d
I am intrigued
..I have no clue as to what you speak. But I now wanna know. Thank you.
Bro, props on letting us know your not full of $hit.
👌😝👍
So basically sound stream lies to you twice... says 3500 then the rms rating and they both fail... WHAT JUNK FOR AMPS WHAT A JUNK BRAND IN THE 90s this brand was pretty dope