What They Don't Tell You About Taiwan's First Submarine
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- The Hai Kun-class submarine is a class of attack submarines built by CSBC Corporation, Taiwan for the Republic of China Navy. The program is also known as the Indigenous Defense Submarine (IDS) program. The submarines are diesel-electric and use lithium-ion battery technology for propulsion. They have a displacement of approximately 2,500 tons and a length of around 70 meters. The Hai Kun-class submarines are expected to be commissioned in 2025. The submarines are armed with MK 48 Mod6 AT torpedoes and UGM-84L Harpoon missiles.
The Hai Kun-class submarines are part of Taiwan’s effort to bolster its aging underwater fleets, which consisted of two Dutch-built Hai Lung-class submarines from the 1980s and two US-built GUPPY-class submarines that saw action in the Second World War. Taiwan has been attempting to procure new submarines since 2001, and in 2014, the Ministry of National Defense announced that Taiwan would construct its own diesel-electric attack submarines with help from the United States. In April 2018, President Donald Trump approved the technology transfers that would enable Taiwan to build its own submarines.
The Hai Kun-class submarine is thought to be reverse-engineered from the Dutch Zwaardvis class, which is currently operated by Taiwan, with some similarities to the Dutch Walrus class as well. The submarine features a hybrid double-single hull structure with a light outer hull, but replaces the cruciform control surfaces of the Zwaardvis class with the more prevalent X-form type rudders, resembling Japan’s Sōryū-class SSKs. It does not feature air independent power (AIP) and is believed to lack anechoic coating.
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Many people are unaware of Taiwan's current industrial and overall economic strength.
Taiwan has a developed technology and manufacturing industry, with global rankings of first in semiconductor chip manufacturing technology, first in information and communication equipment manufacturing, third in machinery and parts manufacturing, third in the scale of biopharmaceutical enterprises, fourth in machine tool industry, sixth in the scale of chemical plants, fifth in the world in terms of shipbuilding tonnage, and sixth in terms of aerospace industry output. It is also the world's largest and technologically best country for carbon fiber composite outsourcing, from tennis rackets, bicycles to aircraft components. Taiwan has many companies that are mid-to-upstream manufacturing companies that are hidden champions in the world. It has produced supercomputers, super AI computers, satellites, and has successfully launched military space rockets on multiple secret occasions. Taiwan's overall technology and manufacturing industry strength is at the forefront with the United States, Japan, and the European Union industrial countries. Taiwan is currently the 20th largest economy in the world, with total foreign investment assets of over USD 2 trillion. It is the fifth largest outward investor in the world and the fifth largest net creditor country in the world.
Manufacturing has always been used to produce consumer goods first, and then military equipment was manufactured due to national defense and war needs. Taiwan's industrial strength is completely used in the export of civilian industries, and the production of military and weapons is limited to specific government agencies. In the past, the government did not attach importance to integrating and supporting private enterprises, coupled with no export opportunities, private enterprise factories were not interested in investing in the production of military equipment. On the other hand, American military companies have long seen the manufacturing capabilities of many Taiwanese manufacturers and have purchased the supply chains of important components and assembly parts for their military from Taiwanese factories, such as military-grade microwave RF semiconductor components, rocket satellite precision components, electric vehicle bearings, military-grade electronic equipment components, military-grade computers, and military-grade carbon fiber composite outsourcing. TSMC is also one of the three major military-grade chip manufacturers for the US Department of Defense. Military-grade chips below 14 nanometers are all manufactured by TSMC. TSMC is the only company in the world that provides military-grade 5-nanometer chip manufacturing technology to produce high-performance logic chips and AI chips.
China is threatening Taiwan by firing missiles and circling Taiwan with aircraft and ships in the waters around the Taiwan Strait. Under the pressure of China's constant verbal and military threats, Taiwan quickly completed its own design of submarines, self-developed the production of submarine steel, and the US, UK, and EU democracies provided Taiwan with core submarine components, and Japan and South Korea provided shipbuilding technology. Some of the core components are still manufactured by Taiwan with the support of chips. It is no problem for Taiwan's overall industrial strength to be converted to support military research and production. Subsequent submarine production will be able to achieve complete localization of submarines in batches.
Everything except no pedestrian walkway and they dump their soiled toilet paper in a bin 🤮
🤣 Are you Taiwanese of Indian descent?
Taiwan's first nearly 3,000-ton self-made submarine "Narwhal" has just been built and is undergoing testing. Taiwan's first AI unmanned attack submarine "Huilong" will also be launched by the end of this year.
While Taiwan is building manned submarines, it is also secretly using submarine development technology to produce unmanned submarines. The self-made "Huilong" (meaning: Intelligent Dragon) unmanned submarine is a smaller version of the submarine, with specifications of 30 meters long, 6 meters high and 3.6 meters wide. It adopts a double-shell design (the length of the inner pressure shell is 20 meters). Its height including the sail cover is 6 meters, and the outer shell is also coated with black sound-absorbing coating. In addition, the internal settings are not only equipped with cruise, sonar detection and other systems, but more importantly, it also adds a life support system (for special forces missions) and a system equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. This is almost the basic configuration of a 100-ton small submarine. It uses a hull similar to a manned submarine with a sail-type structure design, and is also equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can launch small unmanned AI boats, torpedoes, mines and underwater loitering munitions to monitor, lock on and loiter attacks on enemy targets. The hull of the "Huilong" unmanned submarine is made of alloy steel produced by Taiwan Steel and can withstand seawater pressure of 1,000 meters. It allows the "Huilong" unmanned submarine to stay at a depth of nearly 900 meters underwater. Not only will it not be detected, but it will also be unable to be attacked by mines or torpedoes.
The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can perform combat missions alone, or it can accompany the submarine as a wing boat for coordinated operations.
Taiwanese civilian manufacturer has developed an Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV) for the Navy - the Seawolf 400 AUV system. The Seawolf 400 AUV is 4 meters long, weighs about 1,000 kilograms, has a speed of 2 to 7 knots, can submerge for 8 to 10 hours, and can carry AI reconnaissance equipment and attack weapons.
Taiwan's Navy has partnered with an innovative company to develop an underwater glider. This equipment has the characteristics of long-term operation, large-scale collection of underwater information, high concealment, low maintenance and operation costs, fast maneuverability, and diversified underwater reconnaissance. It can collect hydrographic information for the Navy and influence the selection of sonar modes and the application of tactics. In addition, the equipment also has stealth characteristics and can perform underwater missions for more than one month, improving the Navy's ability to deal with underwater operations and intelligence collection. Several underwater gliders are currently being deployed to perform missions.
Taiwan plans to produce eight Submarines, 46 AI Unmanned Submarines, hundreds of Seawolf 400 AUVs, and a fleet of Underwater Gliders. Based on this, the Taiwan Navy has been able to build a powerful, modern underwater fleet with AI networked combat capabilities.
Only 39.7% is self made, rest is supplied by other countries or steal from.
@@___Danny___ lol, But it's true.
So Taiwan now has the worlds newest and oldest submarines in their navy.
They also embrace their Chinese roots and copy everything then call it an "indigenous design".
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@@rh906I don't embrace the so-called "Chinese roots" at all, if you didn't mean I eat rice from time to time. And it is China copying many things from Taiwan such as their wafer fabs., well 50% only. Get you info. correct, will you?
@@hsuval4173 taiwan literally use mandarin. the diagram in this video is literally in chinese. the country is officially call the republic of china... its more chinese than hongkong... =)
@@rh906 It is normal practice for countries to evolve into having their own designs by first making modified copies of foreign products, then make their own design with foreign parts, and then finally a fully domestic design. I suggest you watch Perun’s video on the South Koreans as it’s a good example. So Taiwan is no different nor are they doing anything wrong here.
Congrats Taiwan on a pretty solid first domestic boat design!
It really is!
Taiwan's first nearly 3,000-ton self-made submarine "Narwhal" has just been built and is undergoing testing. Taiwan's first AI unmanned attack submarine "Huilong" will also be launched by the end of this year.
While Taiwan is building manned submarines, it is also secretly using submarine development technology to produce unmanned submarines. The self-made "Huilong" (meaning: Intelligent Dragon) unmanned submarine is a smaller version of the submarine, with specifications of 30 meters long, 6 meters high and 3.6 meters wide. It adopts a double-shell design (the length of the inner pressure shell is 20 meters). Its height including the sail cover is 6 meters, and the outer shell is also coated with black sound-absorbing coating. In addition, the internal settings are not only equipped with cruise, sonar detection and other systems, but more importantly, it also adds a life support system (for special forces missions) and a system equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. This is almost the basic configuration of a 100-ton small submarine. It uses a hull similar to a manned submarine with a sail-type structure design, and is also equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can launch small unmanned AI boats, torpedoes, mines and underwater loitering munitions to monitor, lock on and loiter attacks on enemy targets. The hull of the "Huilong" unmanned submarine is made of alloy steel produced by Taiwan Steel and can withstand seawater pressure of 1,000 meters. It allows the "Huilong" unmanned submarine to stay at a depth of nearly 900 meters underwater. Not only will it not be detected, but it will also be unable to be attacked by mines or torpedoes.
The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can perform combat missions alone, or it can accompany the submarine as a wing boat for coordinated operations.
Taiwanese civilian manufacturer has developed an Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV) for the Navy - the Seawolf 400 AUV system. The Seawolf 400 AUV is 4 meters long, weighs about 1,000 kilograms, has a speed of 2 to 7 knots, can submerge for 8 to 10 hours, and can carry AI reconnaissance equipment and attack weapons.
Taiwan's Navy has partnered with an innovative company to develop an underwater glider. This equipment has the characteristics of long-term operation, large-scale collection of underwater information, high concealment, low maintenance and operation costs, fast maneuverability, and diversified underwater reconnaissance. It can collect hydrographic information for the Navy and influence the selection of sonar modes and the application of tactics. In addition, the equipment also has stealth characteristics and can perform underwater missions for more than one month, improving the Navy's ability to deal with underwater operations and intelligence collection. Several underwater gliders are currently being deployed to perform missions.
Taiwan plans to produce eight Submarines, 46 AI Unmanned Submarines, hundreds of Seawolf 400 AUVs, and a fleet of Underwater Gliders. Based on this, the Taiwan Navy has been able to build a powerful, modern underwater fleet with AI networked combat capabilities.
I am a Taiwanese , Ｉ want to say thank you to West countries . Without your help , we could not build this Submarine . We will always stand with Liberty and Democracy , never surreder to the dictator!
@@user-zj7iv6xv5o Same here. Thank you all the foreign countries who helped us!!
This is the KEY😂🎉
Superb coverage of this exciting new boat which seems perfectly specified to address the immediate threats Taiwan faces. Great job Arron, great job Taiwan!
Would be nice to see some impact simulations of those Mk 48 Adv Cpblty Mod. 6's on a random range of blockading craft. 11:46
Taiwan's first nearly 3,000-ton self-made submarine "Narwhal" has just been built and is undergoing testing. Taiwan's first AI unmanned attack submarine "Huilong" will also be launched by the end of this year.
While Taiwan is building manned submarines, it is also secretly using submarine development technology to produce unmanned submarines. The self-made "Huilong" (meaning: Intelligent Dragon) unmanned submarine is a smaller version of the submarine, with specifications of 30 meters long, 6 meters high and 3.6 meters wide. It adopts a double-shell design (the length of the inner pressure shell is 20 meters). Its height including the sail cover is 6 meters, and the outer shell is also coated with black sound-absorbing coating. In addition, the internal settings are not only equipped with cruise, sonar detection and other systems, but more importantly, it also adds a life support system (for special forces missions) and a system equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. This is almost the basic configuration of a 100-ton small submarine. It uses a hull similar to a manned submarine with a sail-type structure design, and is also equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can launch small unmanned AI boats, torpedoes, mines and underwater loitering munitions to monitor, lock on and loiter attacks on enemy targets. The hull of the "Huilong" unmanned submarine is made of alloy steel produced by Taiwan Steel and can withstand seawater pressure of 1,000 meters. It allows the "Huilong" unmanned submarine to stay at a depth of nearly 900 meters underwater. Not only will it not be detected, but it will also be unable to be attacked by mines or torpedoes.
The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can perform combat missions alone, or it can accompany the submarine as a wing boat for coordinated operations.
Taiwanese civilian manufacturer has developed an Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV) for the Navy - the Seawolf 400 AUV system. The Seawolf 400 AUV is 4 meters long, weighs about 1,000 kilograms, has a speed of 2 to 7 knots, can submerge for 8 to 10 hours, and can carry AI reconnaissance equipment and attack weapons.
Taiwan's Navy has partnered with an innovative company to develop an underwater glider. This equipment has the characteristics of long-term operation, large-scale collection of underwater information, high concealment, low maintenance and operation costs, fast maneuverability, and diversified underwater reconnaissance. It can collect hydrographic information for the Navy and influence the selection of sonar modes and the application of tactics. In addition, the equipment also has stealth characteristics and can perform underwater missions for more than one month, improving the Navy's ability to deal with underwater operations and intelligence collection. Several underwater gliders are currently being deployed to perform missions.
Taiwan plans to produce eight Submarines, 46 AI Unmanned Submarines, hundreds of Seawolf 400 AUVs, and a fleet of Underwater Gliders. Based on this, the Taiwan Navy has been able to build a powerful, modern underwater fleet with AI networked combat capabilities.
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Good job
Taiwan took 4 years to learn and design its self-made submarine, and only took 3 years to complete its self-made modern submarine. Taiwan break the world record for manufacturing the submarine. In 1988 Taiwan was the 1st Asian country who could design and manufacture self-made 3rd generation Jet Fighter. Taiwan is also designing its own fifth-generation stealth twin-engine fighter jet, and the prototype will be produced in 2025. Taiwan is not only strong in semiconductor chip manufacturing technology, but also in other industries. Bravo Taiwan!
The steel plates used to manufacture submarine pressure hulls are export-controlled materials and were successfully developed by Taiwanese state-owned enterprises. Public information shows that Taiwan’s self-made submarines can dive to a depth of 350-380 meters. Greetings from Taiwan.🙏🙏🙏
Which is way more than necessary. The strait of Taiwan is entirely less than 150M deep
@@blurglide Yes, the Taiwan Strait is not suitable for submarine operations! , Taiwan develops underwater force, aiming to defend the Bashi Strait in southern Taiwan. To prevent the People's Liberation Army's navy from encircling Taiwan's east coast, the depth of this sea area may be more than 1,000 meters. Taiwan is also developing submarines with a displacement of 100 tons.🙏
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Taiwanese are working on an AIP module to add to this design. This is their first submarine. Keeping it simple to make sure they can make a successful submarine, and then get into AIP for the next one.
Agreed
They might go for Lithium batteries like Japanese did.
Between the 2, I think I'd go for the Lithium over the AIP. This first prototype is more a test bed. Production model will be quite different.
@mjhou4123 they might actually..good 👉
@blakewu1375 I really don't know which, for Taiwan. I think lithium would make more sense since they won't be going long distance. They will be sleeping on the ocean floor waiting around Taiwan.
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I would add millennium 7* to that list for aircraft stuff.
The lack of AIP may not actually be a disadvantage, since this is supposed to have lithium ion batteries. The Japanese previously used AIP, but they ditched it with their newest class in favour of lithium ion, so maybe the Taiwanese are actually ahead instead of behind in propulsion.
Until there is a runaway thermal event.
@@suspicionofdeceit Well that's the cost of high performance, isn't it? Diesel is pretty hard to hurt yourself with, and lead-acid batteries are pretty safe, if you aren't in a sealed tube where hydrogen off gassing can build up to explosive levels. If you want more performance then that, your choices are lithium-ion batteries, liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen, hydrogen peroxide, enriched uranium and various other very interesting materials that can kill you in all kinds of very interesting ways.
I don't understand the lack of anechoic tiles. I mean, this boat would probably be primarily for anti-ship, right? I think surface vessels would probably make frequent use of active sonar?
Depends on what type of lithium batteries they use. LFPO4 chemistry is far less likely to runaway thermally. Down side is slightly less power density but that difference is not all that significant in a sub, slightly more mass.@@suspicionofdeceit
do you have any idea how much bigger the japanese have to build their sub in order to carry those batteries? its not as great as you think. you either end up with very short range or have barttery consume all your space.
Great layman accessible explanations. It's the mark of a great communicator when you can express extremely complex ideas in an easily understood manner.
Hybrid hull design is pure genius for safety and performance
Get their mainland cousins to follow into a dangerous situation and allow their natural culture of corruption (Taiwanese only barely pulled out thanks to the US) so they can listen to the implosions on the sonar.
Taiwan has successfully developed a 533mm-diameter torpedo launch system for Taiwan-made IDS submarine Narwhal. In addition to being used to launch US-made MK-48 heavy torpedoes, the system is also being prepared to launch Taiwanese-made submarine-launched Hsiung Feng II anti-ship missiles, submarine-launched Hsiung Feng III supersonic anti-ship missiles, submarine-launched Hsiung Sheng cruise missiles, and submarine-launched Sky Sword II air defense missiles. The diameters of these Taiwanese missiles, after being modified and installed in submarine-launched pods, are all smaller than 533mm torpedo launch tubes, and the IDS submarines can all launch them in the future.
During launch, the torpedo tube will push the Taiwanese missile pod into the sea. After traveling a certain distance and approaching the surface, the missile engine will ignite, break out of the pod, and emerge from the water. After the guidance system is activated, the missile will fly into the sky and autonomously attack the target.
Taiwan is producing a submarine that makes the most sense for them. They are trying to defend their island against attack from China. A diesel/electric does make the sense for them. It's cost effective and VERY silent. It does not need long range. It only needs to put weapons on target. I like it!
Loved the video. I am amazed at how quick that came together. Thanks again!
Taiwan's first nearly 3,000-ton self-made submarine "Narwhal" has just been built and is undergoing testing. Taiwan's first AI unmanned attack submarine "Huilong" will also be launched by the end of this year.
While Taiwan is building manned submarines, it is also secretly using submarine development technology to produce unmanned submarines. The self-made "Huilong" (meaning: Intelligent Dragon) unmanned submarine is a smaller version of the submarine, with specifications of 30 meters long, 6 meters high and 3.6 meters wide. It adopts a double-shell design (the length of the inner pressure shell is 20 meters). Its height including the sail cover is 6 meters, and the outer shell is also coated with black sound-absorbing coating. In addition, the internal settings are not only equipped with cruise, sonar detection and other systems, but more importantly, it also adds a life support system (for special forces missions) and a system equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. This is almost the basic configuration of a 100-ton small submarine. It uses a hull similar to a manned submarine with a sail-type structure design, and is also equipped with two torpedo launch tubes. The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can launch small unmanned AI boats, torpedoes, mines and underwater loitering munitions to monitor, lock on and loiter attacks on enemy targets. The hull of the "Huilong" unmanned submarine is made of alloy steel produced by Taiwan Steel and can withstand seawater pressure of 1,000 meters. It allows the "Huilong" unmanned submarine to stay at a depth of nearly 900 meters underwater. Not only will it not be detected, but it will also be unable to be attacked by mines or torpedoes.
The "Huilong" unmanned submarine can perform combat missions alone, or it can accompany the submarine as a wing boat for coordinated operations.
Taiwanese civilian manufacturer has developed an Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV) for the Navy - the Seawolf 400 AUV system. The Seawolf 400 AUV is 4 meters long, weighs about 1,000 kilograms, has a speed of 2 to 7 knots, can submerge for 8 to 10 hours, and can carry AI reconnaissance equipment and attack weapons.
Taiwan's Navy has partnered with an innovative company to develop an underwater glider. This equipment has the characteristics of long-term operation, large-scale collection of underwater information, high concealment, low maintenance and operation costs, fast maneuverability, and diversified underwater reconnaissance. It can collect hydrographic information for the Navy and influence the selection of sonar modes and the application of tactics. In addition, the equipment also has stealth characteristics and can perform underwater missions for more than one month, improving the Navy's ability to deal with underwater operations and intelligence collection. Several underwater gliders are currently being deployed to perform missions.
Taiwan plans to produce eight Submarines, 46 AI Unmanned Submarines, hundreds of Seawolf 400 AUVs, and a fleet of Underwater Gliders. Based on this, the Taiwan Navy has been able to build a powerful, modern underwater fleet with AI networked combat capabilities.
Taiwan took 4 years to learn and design its self-made submarine, and only took 3 years to complete its self-made modern submarine. Taiwan break the world record for manufacturing the submarine. In 1988 Taiwan was the 1st Asian country who could design and manufacture self-made 3rd generation Jet Fighter. Taiwan is also designing its own fifth-generation stealth twin-engine fighter jet, and the prototype will be produced in 2025. Taiwan is not only strong in semiconductor chip manufacturing technology, but also in other industries. Bravo Taiwan!
Taiwan's IDS Indigenous Defense Submarine is planned to use domestically produced "lithium batteries" as the submarine's underwater power system.
Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force's Soryu-class "Phoenix" and "Dragon" submarines, as well as the latest Oshidori-class "Oshidori" and "Shirotori" submarines,
all use "lithium battery systems" as the submarine's underwater power system. The South Korean Navy has also announced that its second batch of new "Dosan Ahn Changho-class" submarines will also abandon AIP power systems and start using "lithium batteries"
as submarine power systems. These modern submarine countries that use lithium batteries as their main power source have kept secret the amount of time their lithium battery power systems can operate underwater, which has aroused curiosity among people.
Recently, the U.S. naval professional media "Naval News" reported that the Indonesian Navy will order from France a new batch of "lithium battery"-powered Scorpene-class
submarines for it, which is referred to by the French side as the "Scorpene Evolved". The French shipbuilding company Naval Group claims that the class of submarines, equipped with "lithium batteries", can last up to 80 days on a single mission, of which 78
days are submerged, and the maximum range can reach 8,000 nautical miles (about 14,816 kilometers), significantly reducing the rate of surfacing.
The French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine has a weight of 2,000 tons, and the lithium batteries fully charged can support the submarine for 78
days of submerged operation. The Taiwan-made IDS submarine has a weight of nearly 2,800 tons, and can carry more lithium batteries than the French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine. It is estimated that the Taiwan-made IDS submarine with lithium
battery power system may support 90 days of submerged operation.
Taiwan has successfully developed a 533mm-diameter torpedo launch system for Taiwan-made IDS submarine Narwhal. In addition to being used to launch US-made MK-48 heavy torpedoes, the system is also being prepared to launch Taiwanese-made submarine-launched Hsiung Feng II anti-ship missiles, submarine-launched Hsiung Feng III supersonic anti-ship missiles, submarine-launched Hsiung Sheng cruise missiles, and submarine-launched Sky Sword II air defense missiles. The diameters of these Taiwanese missiles, after being modified and installed in submarine-launched pods, are all smaller than 533mm torpedo launch tubes, and the IDS submarines can all launch them in the future.
During launch, the torpedo tube will push the Taiwanese missile pod into the sea. After traveling a certain distance and approaching the surface, the missile engine will ignite, break out of the pod, and emerge from the water. After the guidance system is activated, the missile will fly into the sky and autonomously attack the target.
Taiwan took 4 years to learn and design its self-made submarine, and only took 3 years to complete its self-made modern submarine. Taiwan break the world record for manufacturing the submarine. In 1988 Taiwan was the 1st Asian country who could design and manufacture self-made 3rd generation Jet Fighter. Taiwan is also designing its own fifth-generation stealth twin-engine fighter jet, and the prototype will be produced in 2025. Taiwan is not only strong in semiconductor chip manufacturing technology, but also in other industries. Bravo Taiwan.
Still not a country
@leohedrick1624 Bruh. Showing your ignorance is not a good choice bro
@@leohedrick1624 In addition to the number of visa exemptions, whether a country has a US visa exemption is an important indicator of its passport strength. In Asia, only four countries in Asia, including Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and Singapore, have US visa exemption status.
Taiwan's passports enjoy automatic customs clearance through the automatic inspection and clearance system (E-Gate) at airport customs in nine countries, including Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Australia, the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, and the Czech Republic. Taiwan's passports can be cleared in 25 seconds. !
Communist China is an unpopular country. Western democracies strictly check the passports of Communist China, fearing that Chinese people will be stranded and not return home.
@@leohedrick1624 shut up
@@TokaiTeio-Taiwan so tell me how many country in the world recognize Republic of China is a legitimate country? Also does it include U.S ？In 1971, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 2758, which recognized the People’s Republic of China as “the only legitimate representative of China to the United Nations,” effectively expelling the Republic of China (Taiwan). This resolution is often cited as international recognition of the PRC’s claim over Taiwan. So how about you turn around and go fuk yourself and read
I really enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing your expertise and knowledge with us.
I think this is a spectacular first step. Not having AIP, towed arrays, etc is probably a plus when you put this in perspective. This is thier first sub build, the industry had to be trained, the sailors have to be trained, etc. This was a huge project to undertake. Here they will focus on the fundamentals of scratch designing, building, and operating subs. I wouldn't be suprised if SN's 3 or 4 has an AIP module, or the "improved" class after these 4 boats. This is just a first stepping stone.
Taiwan has limited resources. They need lots of cheap subs now. And they need them to be a serious threat to any Chinese surface ship in an invasion fleet in the straight between Taiwan and China. You don't need towed arrays or 6000 nautical range AIB for that.
Taiwan's IDS Indigenous Defense Submarine is planned to use domestically produced "lithium batteries" as the submarine's underwater power system.
Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force's Soryu-class "Phoenix" and "Dragon" submarines, as well as the latest Oshidori-class "Oshidori" and "Shirotori" submarines,
all use "lithium battery systems" as the submarine's underwater power system. The South Korean Navy has also announced that its second batch of new "Dosan Ahn Changho-class" submarines will also abandon AIP power systems and start using "lithium batteries"
as submarine power systems. These modern submarine countries that use lithium batteries as their main power source have kept secret the amount of time their lithium battery power systems can operate underwater, which has aroused curiosity among people.
Recently, the U.S. naval professional media "Naval News" reported that the Indonesian Navy will order from France a new batch of "lithium battery"-powered Scorpene-class
submarines for it, which is referred to by the French side as the "Scorpene Evolved". The French shipbuilding company Naval Group claims that the class of submarines, equipped with "lithium batteries", can last up to 80 days on a single mission, of which 78
days are submerged, and the maximum range can reach 8,000 nautical miles (about 14,816 kilometers), significantly reducing the rate of surfacing.
The French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine has a weight of 2,000 tons, and the lithium batteries fully charged can support the submarine for 78
days of submerged operation. The Taiwan-made IDS submarine has a weight of nearly 2,800 tons, and can carry more lithium batteries than the French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine. It is estimated that the Taiwan-made IDS submarine with lithium
battery power system may support 90 days of submerged operation.
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I love your in-depth videos I really miss your whiteboards, acoustic analysis And see story videos😢
U have hand on experience about nuclear submarine there are not many experts out here who can analyse this incident.
I really would love a video where you explain the pros and cons of each frequency range for sonar systems, like why LF is advantageous (I assume lower frequency travels further) and what are the benefits and cons of MF and HF, flank arrays, towed arrays, etc., aside from the obvious (seeing a wider field of view, behind you, and more sensitive with the towed array because it's away from the boat and the noise it makes and blocks.
I realize some of that you can't talk about but surely there's enough that's public you can share.
Towed array takes time to setup and shutdown and need more navigational space to operate. The flank array is fast to setup up and shutdown, and works in tight navigational spaces. Towed array does not give SONAR homing weapons the submarine's exact location but a flank array does.
A great stepping stone for them I'm sure, cheers for the informative and fun content
Thank you for introducing Taiwan's first self-made submarine. Although I am a DPP supporter, I was not optimistic when Tsai Ing-wen proposed the idea of domestically building submarines in 2016, but she succeeded.
This is the first attempt, and Taiwan has never had relevant technical experience or personnel before, so some of her designs are conservative, such as the AIP you mentioned.
In stead of going far, I think she needs to stay underwater for a long time more, so maybe she will install a lithium battery instead of an AIP in the future.
What is worrying is that in the 2024 general election, KMT plus TPP may hold more than half of the seats in Congress. They are likely to boycott the budget (or even delete it) for the seven next submarines. DPP is working very hard to avoid this situation.
God bless Taiwan.
Good luck.
I hope that you guys manage to build some more subs.
Perhaps you can unofficially get some Swedish engineers on board with the next design?
Their subdesign would probably suit you well (although the higher temperatures of your waters might make a Sterling engine less efficient)
And if you guys get enough submarines that would probably help you both with hindering a Chinese invasion and helping you with blockade running.
If you can get enough cargo submarines to keep supply lines open with Japan and enough attack submarines to hunt down enemy subs and ships you can probably survive for a extended war.
Resistance is futile 😂
@@anakborneo8276 Evil china....
KMT boycott the budget? how about DPP abandon nuclear energy and enbrace natural gas. Within last 2 years, due to high LNG cost, state-owned Taiwan electric lost 400 billions. That is the cost of 8 submarines. Nay, not a worry for DPP supporter.
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A nuclear power plant would be a nightmare to deal with during a war...
Just look at Ukraine where they had fighting and shelling around some of theirs...
Do *you* want to live right next to one while the Chinese drops bombs on it?
Thank you Aaron for the brief!
Good video…👍🏼
Looks to be a basic sub, but well designed for its role as a coastal observation platform.
Wonderful looking training and test bed platform. I bet hull 2 and 3 will have more bells and do-dads on it. Odds are the area of operation will be in the middle of Taiwan and China so not like she has to travel far.
Awesome info, thanks for the video.
This is the first prototype submarine we have built in Taiwan, so it has a very strong experimental nature, and there is still a long way to go before we can actually produce a mass-produced submarine.
Every submarine is an experiment.
Hi Aaron, could comment on the Chinese sub that has reportedly been snared in one of china's sub traps, Thank you
What kind of trap is it?
@@soccom8341576 anchor and chain passive trap.
@@soccom8341576 idk, but probably i think, steel netting
The Times reported the story but no one knows if it is true or not yet
@@C5Dynamitewell kind of true.....at first the Taiwanese have pickup the signal of the China Submarines rescue ship radio signal ....... and Xinnie the Dictator strange behaviour during the BRICS summit ......plus China Communist Government Defence Ministrer 李尚福Being investigated for taking bribes and Corruption charges
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Based on some publicly known details, rocn is planning on deploying lithium ion battery instead of AIP. Same with towed array. There is a tentative plan to deploy towed sonar in the subsequent vessels.
Fit for purpose, keep it simple.👍
Not expected to project power far away from home.
Thanks for the coverage Aaron, yes, been asking about this! Even in Taiwan not people don't know much about it, except the launch ceremony was widely covered on TV. I personally think the AIP or lithium batteries are on the way soon, in the next iterations, given how closely the Japanese were involved - multiple "former" Mitsubishi and Kawasaki people who had been on Soryu/Taigei projects, but they needed to make sure the hull and the basic systems were done right. It seems to have been a pet project between President Tsai Ying-wen and the late PM Abe Shinzo.
One concerning incident revealed recently was that a KMT lawmaker refused to sign NDA while the Executive Yuan's defense committee was being briefed on the project and even managed to copy some of the documents on the Hai Kun. This scandal is still evolving in Taiwan.
NDA is pretty much a pointless "I'm a nice person, vote for me" gesture meant for domestic consumption to begin with since we aren't talking about mere corporate secrets but issues of national security. DPP and KMT will feud over absolutely everything as it moves on.
If the information was released without authorization, the person in question needs to be tried for breach of confidentiality (or even treason), regardless of whether the NDA was signed. Some lawmakers think they have immunity from any and all laws.
The original accusation was indeed leaking classified info to Red China. The Ministry of National Defense, however, had deemed the information in question as not classified beforehand (the lawmaker apparently took it up with the MND years ago), and there is no sign indicating that she approached anyone other than domestic agencies and then Koreans. According to the lawmaker herself, she did it because she saw signs of corruption.
In fact, the MND has pretty much refused to underwrite anything either party has said, and the accuser has since changed the accusation to administrative interference. This can still get her removed from the Legislative Yuan's national defense committee if her conducts are deemed impropriety, but it has pretty much been accepted in Taiwan that the treason boat has sailed.
@@5anjuro Also, the issue with Taiwanese submarine programme is that the political influence of Red China means that any technological acquisition will necessarily be almost entirely under the table and in secrecy, and that the whole venture will be very expensive. It can't be helped, but back during the martial law era the officials in charge of the Dutch-made submarine acquisition reported directly to the president (Chiang Ching-Kuo), and the programme itself was undoubtedly closely-monitored. At this day and age, government oversight would be very difficult, to speak nothing of feuds between government officials (this applies to both sides of the current situation).
I love your videos. Thanks.
Would the outer hull imperfections not cause a lot of hydrodynamic noise, especially above speeds of 3-4 knots?
thx for your objective suggestion that can help up a lot on our submarine program
Wow MK 48 and UGM-84L. Well we definitely know she is deadly.
Great work man 😊
Thanks 😁
Second-level Admiral Huang Shuguang once worked in the project weapon office of the Seadragon Class and endured hardships and humiliations. Now he has single-handedly nurtured the Narwhal Class. Although he is 66 years old, he can be said to be an old man with great ambitions. It is rare for the Republic of China to have a generation of great masters, famous generals and generals over the past century. A loyal minister does not rely on favors but serves the king; a filial son does not rely on parents' love but admires his relatives. History always repeats itself... In Chinese history, during the Shaoxing Peace Conference 900 years ago, Yue Fei was framed by Qin Hui, Zhang Jun and others and was arrested and imprisoned. Today's second-level general Huang Shuguang seems to be in the same situation as Yue Fei. Serving the country with loyalty... a strange injustice through the ages.
8:30 It's not exactly twice as much, it's only 41% more. You're going to loose a bit because the perpendicular force vectors will cancel each other out. Also, once the control surfaces are fully deflected in one direction you won't have anything left for the other axis. As an example, if you are full pitch up you have no yaw control and you would need to reduce the pitch to gain some yaw authority back. This is the reason why you only see a handful of V-tailed airplanes. Now, I doubt that this will be that much of an issue in a sub, but it is an aspect of this configuration.
What a great brief. Thanks for posting
Our pleasure!
Thanks for the review. It is still an impressive build
Thanks Aaron.
❤Thank you for your support to Taiwan👍
Wouldn't the sheet metal outer hull produce lots of noise when changing pressures?
Aren't you essentially carrying the water that's in between the hulls with you? Is it flooding through small holes and jetting out through the ones aft while moving? Would this increase its mass in terms of propulsion and the noise it makes?
I read some where Taiwan skipped AIP and went directly for Lithium batteries.
Hello! I don't know if you take request but I would love to see a sub brief about the Brazilian Nuclear Powered Submarine one day. It started the assembly phase this week after tests in its reactor.
I know it’s a serious subject but the 7-11 at the start had me rolling 😂👏 well done sir in all aspects
7-11 is big business in Taiwan. I think the local franchise holder is one of the food megacorps that runs all the Starbucks and a bunch of their own stuff.
Locally 7-11 is practically visible at every street corner, handling everything from your microwaved meal to utility bill and train tickets, 24h, every single day of the year..... So having our first ever locally built submarine numbered 711, has knda nice ring to it.....
7-11 with the logo pop at start of the video is awesome, 7-11 is the everything store in Taiwan so it's very fitting
From all the information I gathered, while AIP can certainly increase the endurance of a DE sub underwater, it does not help the speed of a sub. When a sub is powered by AIP alone, its speed would not exceed 5 knots.Therefore, I doubt it helps the "torpedo evasion" that much.
I’d be interested to know what collins class features you see on this!
Thank your professional explanation. There are many things I don’t know even I am in Taiwan.
Aaron, in light of recent news, what would happen to someone with specific knowledge and without a Secret Service detail if they... "shared" information about our sub fleet deployment and capabilities, which then got shared to at least 40 other people including government officials from a 5 eyes nation?
How do (marine) lithium-ion batteries compare to the older battery chemistries used by other diesel-electric boats?
So what you’re saying is that the sonar dome cover is critical for safe, efficient, & silent movement? Looking at you USS Connie…
3:20 Wouldn't the desire for a smooth hull to lower resistance and turbulence preclude a smooth surface? Could putty be put over something to hide it from the camera? Or to give a false impression of workmanship and depth capabilities?
Given that it will probably be operating in the immediate area around Taiwan I doubt a small range with the diesal will be to much of an issue
You have done an excellent review of Taiwans newest submarine thumbs up
讚啦
Sub looks good, Taiwan and not being made in China means it works 🇹🇼 👍
If the outer hull is flooded on the inside, how do they control marine growth in that space?
Great report from someone that knows.
How thick can steel be made in Taiwan or anywhere else? Only T shaped seams if welding is a weak point?
Are anechoic tiles obsolete? Is it just paint now or is that a budget saving cut?
太棒了。我們也有最新的潛水艇。
The Mark 48 torpedo gives that sub a significant punch.
這就是專業 👍
could you do a video on the type 218sg?
感謝資訊報導，隔壁的惡鄰居太過強大，只能自己保護自己的家園（國家）
How much power/speed does AIP provide? I've heard it's long lasting, low power.
Thanks for the scoop buddy...👉🏻
Would the outer hull being smoother help make the sub more quiet?
smoother is better, but not critical at the low speeds this sub will operate at.
Could this be considered an MVP just to get it to sea trial and the intention for future sister ships to feature AIP?
Judging by the unevenness of the hull, this submarine does not appear to have acoustic tiles installed. In this day and age, a submarine without acoustic tiles is comparable to going out in public naked.
Have you done a video on the HMS Thetis?
My impression is that AIP is no longer considered a good choice for non-nuclear subs, Li battery is better in anyway except for durance. The rumor here in Taiwan is that since the 2nd (if there is) boat on, we will replace the Pb acid batteries with Li batteries.
Btw, which part do you think is influenced by Collins? Collins is actually Swedish technology product, and Sweden never is willing to have any military technology deal with Taiwan.
Taiwan's IDS Indigenous Defense Submarine is planned to use domestically produced "lithium batteries" as the submarine's underwater power system.
Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force's Soryu-class "Phoenix" and "Dragon" submarines, as well as the latest Oshidori-class "Oshidori" and "Shirotori" submarines,
all use "lithium battery systems" as the submarine's underwater power system. The South Korean Navy has also announced that its second batch of new "Dosan Ahn Changho-class" submarines will also abandon AIP power systems and start using "lithium batteries"
as submarine power systems. These modern submarine countries that use lithium batteries as their main power source have kept secret the amount of time their lithium battery power systems can operate underwater, which has aroused curiosity among people.
Recently, the U.S. naval professional media "Naval News" reported that the Indonesian Navy will order from France a new batch of "lithium battery"-powered Scorpene-class
submarines for it, which is referred to by the French side as the "Scorpene Evolved". The French shipbuilding company Naval Group claims that the class of submarines, equipped with "lithium batteries", can last up to 80 days on a single mission, of which 78
days are submerged, and the maximum range can reach 8,000 nautical miles (about 14,816 kilometers), significantly reducing the rate of surfacing.
The French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine has a weight of 2,000 tons, and the lithium batteries fully charged can support the submarine for 78
days of submerged operation. The Taiwan-made IDS submarine has a weight of nearly 2,800 tons, and can carry more lithium batteries than the French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine. It is estimated that the Taiwan-made IDS submarine with lithium
battery power system may support 90 days of submerged operation.
We hope later a safe lithium battery could be installed to the upcoming same class submarines to provide a more modern AIP alternative solution and provide a suitable long endurance time against PLA's ASW warfare.
Also vertical launching tube for cruise and SS or SA missiles is another improvement expected.
Taiwan's IDS Indigenous Defense Submarine is planned to use domestically produced "lithium batteries" as the submarine's underwater power system.
Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force's Soryu-class "Phoenix" and "Dragon" submarines, as well as the latest Oshidori-class "Oshidori" and "Shirotori" submarines,
all use "lithium battery systems" as the submarine's underwater power system. The South Korean Navy has also announced that its second batch of new "Dosan Ahn Changho-class" submarines will also abandon AIP power systems and start using "lithium batteries"
as submarine power systems. These modern submarine countries that use lithium batteries as their main power source have kept secret the amount of time their lithium battery power systems can operate underwater, which has aroused curiosity among people.
Recently, the U.S. naval professional media "Naval News" reported that the Indonesian Navy will order from France a new batch of "lithium battery"-powered Scorpene-class
submarines for it, which is referred to by the French side as the "Scorpene Evolved". The French shipbuilding company Naval Group claims that the class of submarines, equipped with "lithium batteries", can last up to 80 days on a single mission, of which 78
days are submerged, and the maximum range can reach 8,000 nautical miles (about 14,816 kilometers), significantly reducing the rate of surfacing.
The French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine has a weight of 2,000 tons, and the lithium batteries fully charged can support the submarine for 78
days of submerged operation. The Taiwan-made IDS submarine has a weight of nearly 2,800 tons, and can carry more lithium batteries than the French "Scorpene Evolved" lithium battery submarine. It is estimated that the Taiwan-made IDS submarine with lithium
battery power system may support 90 days of submerged operation.
@@mikslids7083 new battery is more slient and efficient than old AIP system. Safety is very important for such design though.
the green outer cover people were worried about just looks like a fabric cover for photos at realease
Doesn’t the external hull have to be somewhat smooth just to keep flow noise low? Would guess that Taiwan’s submarine is designed to operate within 300-499 NM of the coast. Just a few of these platforms laying sea mines would totally disrupt Chinese coastal / international trade. It just has to be extremely stealthily and survive.
Cavitation will destroy it by the end of the first mission.
I have also heard that if the outer surface is not smooth, it will be difficult to have acoustic stealth tiles adhere properly.
Thanks US ,Japan,Korea,UK
Interesting.
為了民主自由而戰的台灣，加油！
Underwater submarines are difficult to detect. The waters around Taiwan are even more complex due to the Kuroshio Current and volcanic terrain.
The Kuroshio Current, also known as the Japan Current, is a branch of the North Pacific Ocean current system. It is the second largest ocean current in the world, originating in the Philippines, passing through the East Coast of Taiwan, and flowing northeast along Japan before merging with the North Pacific Current. The Kuroshio Current has a current speed of 1 to 2 meters per second and a width of over 200 kilometers. Fish and underwater vehicles are carried along by the Kuroshio Current like they are on a highway, automatically flowing towards the North Pacific Current region. The complex deep sea area where the fast-flowing Kuroshio Current passes through stretches from the Bashi Channel region in southern Taiwan, connecting to the East coast of Taiwan, to the Miyako Strait region in northern Taiwan.
Sea of East Coast of Taiwan, a "thermocline" is formed in the area where the water depth is 100 meters. Only a few sound waves can penetrate this "thermocline." Most of the sound waves are reflected back from the "thermocline" like a mirror, and continue to transmit back and forth between the "thermocline" and the surface of the sea. A sonar detection blind zone is formed below this area. Taiwan submarines and unmanned submarines can hide in this blind zone, and the Chinese military ship's sonar system or the sonar detection system thrown into the sea by anti-submarine aircraft from the sky will be unable to detect Taiwan submarines and unmanned submarines.
If Taiwan submarines and unmanned submarines dive to a depth of 200-300 meters below sea level, the enemy can only use submarines to search for submarines to detect them. However, the surrounding waters of Taiwan are Taiwan's territory, especially the Bashi Channel in the southern part of the Taiwan Sea connecting to the Miyako Strait region in northern Taiwan, which is an area with unpredictable Kuroshio Currents. Chinese submarines or underwater vehicles cannot stay in this area for long. They will be automatically washed away to the North Pacific Ocean by the Kuroshio Current and will be unable to sustain combat operations here.
Taiwan has already fully understood the Kuroshio Current area in the east, and is clear about the changing location of the underwater ambush zones around Taiwan throughout the four seasons. It has also deployed fixed and floating underwater sensors or unmanned submarines. Taiwan submarines and unmanned submarines are ambushed in the underwater ambush zones that move with the seasonal sea conditions, or they release denial intelligent mines in the surrounding area in advance. Chinese submarines dare not approach, for fear of being caught in the net and killed. When necessary, Taiwan's IDS submarines can dive to a depth of nearly 400 meters below sea level, where Chinese submarines cannot reach. They can then launch MK-48 torpedoes to easily destroy any enemy submarines or enemy fleet convoys that want to attack.
Taiwan's geographical location is unique. The West Taiwan is separated by the Taiwan Strait to China, which is on average 180 kilometers wide, which is a natural barrier that can easily deter China's attempt to invade Taiwan by landing. The Bashi Channel in southern Taiwan connecting to the East Coast of Taiwan to the Miyako Strait in the north is an area with fast-flowing underwater currents. It is an area that cannot be stayed for long unless there is support from a nearby port. It is also a natural barrier. Taiwan's great self-made submarine capability has supplemented this block of underwater defense and combat capabilities. It can easily deter China's attempt to invade Taiwan from southern, eastern, and northern Taiwan. Taiwan's national defense is in a state of prosperity, and Taiwan can now rest assured.
Taiwan's domestically produced submarines and unmanned submarines are the most important strategic weapons of national defense. Now that Taiwan has produced manned and unmanned submarines, China not only has no chance to cross the sea to invade Taiwan or blockade Taiwan, but it also has to worry about its ports being blockaded, which will completely shatter China's illusion of invading Taiwan! Taiwan's air defense missile system density is one of the highest in the world. It is impossible for the Chinese military to fly over. The Taiwan Strait in the west of Taiwan is a transparent firing line. The Chinese military ships and submarines that invade from here are tantamount to suicide. The southern, eastern, and northern parts of Taiwan are guarded by the natural Kuroshio Current barrier and the submarines and unmanned submarines of Taiwan Navy. The Chinese aircraft carrier, destroyer, and escort fleet will not dare to come.
Taiwans new looks similar to Japans new Taigei-class submarines which only uses lithium-ion batteries and does not have AIP installed as well. Since Japan had input with the U.S. and its allies in helping Taiwan develop this submarine, maybe Taiwan is using the same technology?
No AIP. Seems like a design to stay local around the island
SS-711?! For those who don't know, Taipei is filled with 7Elevens where everyone sells tea eggs. The new sub now has to have tea eggs in the mess. No excuse to pass on this opportunity. 😂
I'm surprised how few AIP systems are using fuel cells.
Snorkel? Great vid! Thx!
Taiwan has successfully developed a 533mm-diameter torpedo launch system for Taiwan-made IDS submarine Narwhal. In addition to being used to launch US-made MK-48 heavy torpedoes, the system is also being prepared to launch Taiwanese-made submarine-launched Hsiung Feng II anti-ship missiles, submarine-launched Hsiung Feng III supersonic anti-ship missiles, submarine-launched Hsiung Sheng cruise missiles, and submarine-launched Sky Sword II air defense missiles. The diameters of these Taiwanese missiles, after being modified and installed in submarine-launched pods, are all smaller than 533mm torpedo launch tubes, and the IDS submarines can all launch them in the future.
During launch, the torpedo tube will push the Taiwanese missile pod into the sea. After traveling a certain distance and approaching the surface, the missile engine will ignite, break out of the pod, and emerge from the water. After the guidance system is activated, the missile will fly into the sky and autonomously attack the target.
Appreciate your explanation, Aaron. We also know that you are sensitive to what you convey in your channel ... A lot of eyes are watching channels like yours to pick up whatever "they" can
Yes American and other government I am sure are keeping tabs on him... We do not need Aaron getting another visit from the US gov like he did about a year or so ago I think now.
incredible
我台灣人我驕傲
Any commentary on the intelligence reports on the Chinese nuclear submarine that was caught in their own trap and had 55 casualties?
Is it possible they are running lithium batteries, and that's why they didn't spring for AIP?
They are using Lithium
Passive side sonar
I was Submarine qualified on Ohio class boats in 1984 and was fascinated by soviet double hull designs that used Titanium in the Alpha’s our somewhat feared adversary if they weren't so damn noisy. Bucket of bolts but a tough hull and very fast.
This Tiawanese boat baffles me, pun intended. Perhaps we don't share our HY80 and HY100 hull welding designs with them, but it seems a very inefficient design and cramped for space no matter how much smaller asians are on average.
Russian submarines in those days were very fast and very noisy. The Russian did this by using high powered liquid metal coolant nuclear reactors which wear hard to repair when it had an operational leak - this means a reactor leak would sink a Russian sub fast and kill its entire crew at the same time - something the Russians don't like talking about - the USN nuclear subs are safer and easier to maintain and fix which is why we have so many really old nuclear subs still working..
Some Taiwanese defense analysts/journalists have said that Taiwan might not be going for AIP because of Li-ion batteries. Apparently the JMSDF have already ditched AIP in favor of Li-ion batteries for their newest subs because it charges fast and stores a lot of energy. Seems like a reasonable assumption, might be a valid point?
valid point
@subbrief
Aaron, if you havn't already seen this video I think it's the kind of thing you would love to kick out on. It's the top video on the "what's going on with shipping" channel. I'll post a link in a separate comment, just in case the platform delets it.
The video talks about the US Maritime strategy and covers many topics including how's civilian and military shipping needs to be intertwined to be efficient and effective, and how we are lacking there.
Other topics are Aukus, China belts and roads, illegal fishing and undersea mining to get materials for solar panel manufacturing, Philippines Japan, UNCLOS, basically everything around the world and how it's all interdependent.
What type of batteries would they use?
Lithium
How much tonnage does not including AIP remove from the sub?
AIP is about submerged endurance. Evading ASW pursuit and positioning for attack/ambush is critical to Submarine warfare.
Dying to hear what you think about the ford move
AIP is a trade off against range. If you have AIP you have less fuel and or batteries you can carry. It depends on the requirements. Having said that AIP does make sense for taiwan as it would most likely operate close to home ports.
Sir make a dedicated video on china nuclear submarine incident 55 sailors given their supreme sacrifice till now acc to media reports. Please unfold this story too
ok...
Just the usual stuff, they have no communications, bad training, trash design of systems, every man for himself, corruption on all levels, nothing new. The stink comes from the top down, Jinping had to purge everyone around him so yeah, now you know where it all comes from, the fish head is rotten.
@@SubBrief That's confirmation enough that this actually happened in my book.
Yeah clearly an incident the on the scale of the Kursk, goes completely unreported by any major intelligence or government officials of any country really did happen.
Tell me, how does china lose a nuclear sub with no radiation leak, no search and rescue, no disruption to commercial traffic and the sub somehow frees itself (despite being crippled and uncrewed) and sails itself home.
Either china pulled off the coverup of the century where it managed to salvage a sub in 50m deep water with nobody noticing or chinese subs have some kind of dead hand AI on board that allows it to sail home without a crew.
God this whole rumor is 'jewish space lasers' level of idiotic.