Walrus SSK Sub Brief
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2022
- The design, construction and operational history of Netherlands very capable little submarine.
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Me: I had no idea the Dutch even had submarines.*
Royal Netherlands Navy, cruising through a NATO exercise undetected: Why, thank you. :)
*Let alone ones this badass. What a brilliant video - thank you from the UK.
Well you SHOULD have known, we're your buddies! ;-)
UK/Dutch military cooperation is quite extensive. The Diesel/Electric part of your submarine commanders training is done here in the Netherlands. Our and your Marines form a single battlegroup within NATO (there's probably all kind of other cooperation going on on the beach and in the sky too).
If even our allies are unaware of their existence imagine how hard they must be to find for the enemy! Thank you kindly for the compliment, I am glad your formidable Royal Navy is on our side.
@Uncle Joe Tha's a kind thing to say, thank you. I recently watched an episode of The Fighter Pilot podcast which featured an Australian aviator talking about what it was like to fly the F-111. Really cool stuff.
@Uncle Joe Being mentioned in the same sentence as the Koreans and the Japanese is a huge compliment, my country is tiny compared to them and especially the Japanese are expert submariners.
You can't not love the pig, but there's little room for nostalgia in geopolitical hard power. I'm just an outsider looking in but I think the super hornets and F-35s you have now can do the same things the F-111 used to do but better and cheaper.
Really? Well if you want to read up on some Dutch submariner stories from WW2 check the Dutch out, some hair-raising and covert stuff against Germans, Italians and Japanese, a Dutch sub with some great stories would be the O-21( one of their many kills was a German U-boat near Gibraltar with an almost impossible torpedo hit).
My main takeaway from this video is that we need to launch more harpoons from subs so the crabs can have more little homes
im excited for this one, being dutch.
i know there's stories out there painting the walrus class as a pretty capable diesel boat yet i never learned much about them.
got myself a snack, a drink. and ready to enjoy this subbrief!
Me too, hi from the Netherlands! 🇳🇱
@@SolarWebsite ha allen.
Groeten uit Groningen
You'd think that these will be at least as good as current generation SSK's if not better. You guys are part of the West meaning you have access to all the various techs
@@StevenSmith-mk5fg nevermind the tech produced in the netherlands itself.
Nothing on how a Walrus class sub 'sank' the USS Theodore Roosevelt and 8 escort ships in 1999?
Pretty much everyone has done that at this point, nothing special anymore I suppose
"Sank"? try, "fired all its torpedoes at"! Because once a sub does that, it loses its stealth advantage and has to "Get the hell out of Dodge"! and evade the angry escorts that now know where it is. And as the SINKEX on the USS AMERICA proved, it'll take more than a few torpedoes from one of these Eurotrash stealth boats to ACTUALLY sink an American Bird Farm!
@@SmegHedd117 A SINKEX is different than a combat situation. During SINKEX, they weren’t actually trying to sink her immediately so it’s not a very good comparison although it does says something about how hard it is to actually sink such a big and sturdy vessel. Since this happened during an exercise and there wasn’t a real torpedo hitting the carrier it’s harder to say for certain if she would’ve sunk. Those mk48 torpedoes are no joke though and getting hit by one, even if it’s a big carrier, will do at least enough damage to probably force a ship to return to a harbor for repairs.
It remained undetected throughout the attack. Even though the sub fired green smoke grenades after firing a torpedo. Guess the US navy wasn’t paying attention..
Its quite an accomplishment for any ship to penetrate a full escort undetected and get enough torpedoes out to hit multiple ships. This says a lot about the stealth capabilities of a diesel electric submarine. The Dutch submarine division is actually in high regard among NATO partners. Calling these “Eurotrash” frankly says more about you then it does about the submarines.
@@shrimptabasco8974 Touched a nerve, did I? Good. Get your terms correct then. "Its quite an accomplishment for any ship to penetrate a full escort undetected and get enough torpedoes out to hit multiple ships." THAT'S what that sub did! NOT scored enough hits to SINK the carrier! And NOW you change your story to say, "Multiple Ships". Listen up Armchair Admiral, I served in the US Navy, on a Frigate, and a CGN. We participated in many ASW exercises. once that sub was detected, it would not have survived to get off a second volley, Bet on it! If in a wartime situation, Nuclear ASROCS would have been used to kill it, to ensure the survival of the carrier! the US Navy Does NOT SCREW AROUND IN WARTIME! WE play to win! Ask the Japanese!
@@SmegHedd117 what? Do you really believe any of what you just wrote? Man, have you forgotten the last century? I suppose if the RN had that attitude in the Falklands they wouldn’t have lost any ships? Right? Bloody idiot.
Aaron, my compliments for this awesome video, as a dutchman it makes me proud of our very modest navy to hear it spoken of so highly by someone with your experience and knowledge
One thing i would like to add, as of april 1st (sadly, not a joke), the latest news on replacing the walrus-class is that the selection process has once again been delayed. Planning now is to have the requirements finished and out the door by years end, after which DCNS/Damen/Thysenkrupp get to respond. The expectations are that any new boats will enter service somewhere in the 2035-38 timeframe, forcing the Walrus-class to again extend its lifetime. In order to achieve this, one and quite possible a second boat will be taken out of commission to serve as a parts donor to keep the final two boats operational until the new ones are ready, leaving the Royal Netherlands Navy with just two operational submarines from the late 20s to the late 30s.
Personally im quite frustrated by this turn of events, as it means our submarine capabilities will lag behind considerably during a time in which global tensions are nearing cold-war levels again, and our men and women on these boats (and those left boat-less) will not have the equipment they should have, no disrespect meant to the walrus-class boats off course.
My father is a retired Dutch Navy veteran. In 2000-2001 he was posted at the Dutch Embassy in Abu Dhabi, and I remember him arranging for me and my younger brother to take a tour of one of the Walrus submarines that had made port there. Watching this video brought back memories of seeing the Con, berths and Torpedo room. I distinctly remember the crew letting us peer through the periscope. It was a fantastic experience that I'm sure I'll never forget.
I hope to see more videos from you about the Dutch Navy. Despite its rather small size, our surface fleet is very modern and boasts capabilities navies around the world would be envious of. I'd love to hear your analysis on those newer ships!
If you’re interested, one of these subs was always enterable at the port days in Rotterdam. Not sure if she’ll be there the next time looking at how many of them are in maintenance, but they tour you around her as-well.
IIRC the distress beacons were built by a small electronics company in Cheltenham UK
The X configuration allegedly allows them to sit quietly on the bottom with minimal risk to the fins.
Nice to hear a proper briefing about these four beauties, it made me almost blush being dutch with so much praise! Newsflash : defence budgets in the Netherlands are up 40%,and one of the changes in theWalrus-replacement program is the next subs will have cruise missiles and will be A-quality instead of 'B'-quality was told yesterday in the Defense-nota 2022 so hold on to your flippers because that excludes the Type 212D and pushes forward the A-26 Oceanic even more because that is one more American system for the French to deal with in their quite noisy shorten Barracuda. Hoping for that big beautiful Saab / Damen pimped out A-26NL Oceanic creating a noiseless black hole in the Barents Sea and some MARSOF on board.
yes, that's Den Helder. And they're old photos, seeing the ships in port (both number and class, most of them are retired now).
The Zwaardvis class only ever had 2 hulls commissioned into the Dutch navy. The other 2 were built for the Republic of China.
I remember when the Walrus was new. Was a major event when they were commissioned, and the old Dolfijn class were slated for retirement.
Just a remark: Zwaardvis means swordfish. In Dutch the w is not silent. That might help you pronouncing the name should it feature again in next videos.
As usual, you've done excellent work again.
It's Sub brief we're talking about here, if he pronounced things correctly I'd be having him checked for a stroke or something 😂😂 JK Aaron jk..
I love the Nerf ammo color scheme on these Dutch torpedoes! I wonder if it was accidental ... ;-)
Thanks man! As a Dutch man I have been waiting for this one!
Thx for this great episode! Hearing you speak so positively about the sub, as well as the crews, makes me proud to be born and raised in Den Helder! In fact, I still live there... During one of the naval days there I got the chance to visit the interior as well. I was very excited! I really like your channel, keep it up!
Wow! I searched for this literally last night hoping to view it before going to bed and was disappointed you hadn't posted one on RUclips yet, and here it is!
Here's hoping the Dutch goes for the 212cd and share the bill with us somewhat
Quite enjoyed your vid, and the comments add a lot too. Thank you Arron, and props to this community.
Cool one !! I used to work at RDM submarines. In the late nineties as an aprentice welder. Sadly close to the end of this quite unique company but it was a great place to learn my craft.
welcome back, I like the regular navy updates
USS Philadelphia SSN-690 was the first 88 launched, think it was due to a union strike. Also, did PCO ops with the Aussies; officers were extremely impressive, doing solutions before the FTs were done.
22:19 If you listen carefully to the subharmonics you can make out a US White Shepherd Class, most likely the SSN Bianca out of Michigan
CON, sonar room. good boy transient detected.
@@isaacwest CON, torpedo room, launch peanut butter ball countermeasures.
Conn, sonar, active DONAR bearing three-one-seven.
zwaardvis means swordfish for wo would like to know, rotterdam drydock company doesnt exist annymore
Location and construction hall are still there
@@maus3454 correct. But used for other activity’s by my knowing.
@@gielraap2002 Correct. Party venue
Gotta love the cruciform tail arrangement.
Interesting submarine type. They don't always need to be big and nuclear to be useful.
About the X-tail fins: they should work like a V-tail in an airplane. There are mechanical mixers available to convert elevator/rudder input to V-tail output, though with a computerized mixer you have more flexibility to fine-tune the response. With an X-tail, aileron functionality should be possible too, though I don't know how useful this would be in a sub.
The V-tail in an airplane may be a bit more efficient, since airplanes lean into the turn and will need elevator in addition to rudder for the turn anyway, which then can be done mostly with only one control surface. I imagine subs lean into turns too, though power efficiency while turning is probably much less important for a sub than for a sailplane trying to catch a thermal. Better ground clearance would be the major benefit for a sub.
A bit late but you make good points , and there are systems on ships these days called DP 1,2 and 3 that are so good they can manouver and sit on a location in all types of weather. Those systems and the computer system in particular is highly advance d and used in most ships these days , and older ships beeing updated or upgraded to these kinds of technological progress.
Hey great video! Thank you. I enjoy learning about the submarines that were not built by USA or USSR
Absolutely love your site. Knowledge of submarine warfare , your explanation and chats. Great Job. BRAVO ZULU
Thanks for this sub brief, I have been looking forward to this one for a long time.
We only have the 4 Walrus class submarines. The Zwaardvis class was decommissioned in 1995. There are still 2 Zwaardvis class boats operational as Taiwan operates 2 Hai Lung class subs.
I have to say you are such a great commentator with such detail and finesse! 👍😆
the fact that the submarine was invented in the netherlands makes me proud! Also Zwaardvish means swordfish
@9:16 x-rudder "it takes a computer to do that..."
While the Walrus class no doubt used a computer, its not necessary. V-tailed aircraft have long used what is called a "mixer" that mechanically takes the input from stick and rudder and translates them into movements for the angled surfaces.
while probably true, to crossmix 4 planes mechanically will make it very hard to work right. I have built RC planes, helis and quadcopters with electronic mixers before the new automatic controller\mixer things came out and even that was a PITA to set up and fly.
@@noth606 Beechcraft et. al. didn't seem to have much of a problem.
@@obsidianjane4413 Hey Jane, didn’t that kill a lot if doctors tho? ~8)
Great video, Aaron.
Been waiting for this!
Walrus is my favorite sub class. It's basically a Type VII Uboat with all the modernization you can imagine.
34:41 regarding the SMCC if that photo is of the SMCC you can add Australia in that, as the guy immediately behind the periscope guy, is a Lieutenant Commander in Royal Australian Navy as the insignia shows on his chest. Unless it's random photo in which case my information is useless 😂
Thank you for this very interesting Brief. Really enjoyed it.
As of around the 24th of February I've suddenly become a lot more interested in the hard military power that keeps me safe at night.
I really appreciate that you made a video containing so much information, I learned a lot from this. I won't remember the entire lecture of course but the general points you made about how Dutch subs are surprisingly capable given their age and tiny numbers will stick.
Covert intelligence gathering is exactly the kind of thing Dutch armed forces should be focussing on. We trust our neighbours Germany and France, we don't need a large land army to defend our borders. Our safety is guaranteed through alliances with other countries and what better way to support those other countries than to use our century long blue water naval experience to operate a small sub that can go anywhere around the world and do almost anything.
I can't believe when you were talking about the Smell of Dutch Subs, you didn't make a Dutch Oven joke!
We only have 4 subs. All walrus class. And 1 sub at the navy museum.
Those divers sitting on the sub underwater is pretty badass.
great, informative video. I love it! Thanks for the research .
Man... I miss submarines! Great brief and video.
It is The Walrus! Coo Coo Ca Choo!
Just this week, the procurement for 4 new french built submarines was finished. Delivery not expected before somewhere in the 30's however.
Perhaps you could talk about their predecessor, the Zwardvis class, and their Taiwanese cousins, the Sea Dragons. They were a knock off for the US Barbell class.
The submarine you show for the 212CD at 35 minutes is not the CD version, it's the older 212A. It should also be mentioned that the sub the Netherlands would receive is not a normal CD, but has a slightly lengthened hull with an increased diameter. This version is called 212CD E (for Expeditionary).
Otherwise a very good video; now I understand why the Dutch want a bigger submarine with increased range despite the country being rather small: They have a reputation for being very active in all parts of the world, and they want to maintain it.
After watching this I am even prouder of our little fleet of subs. (Edit, Just in case someone reads my comment wrong, I just want to make clear I'm not a navy man, nor military in any way, I just love all these high tech hardware stuff.)
... they will be soon replaced by TKMS 214 class. Thank you for buying in Germany. Fuelcell is a clean silent thing.
@@_Alfa.Bravo_ Not decided yet. But I would not be supprised if it will happen
@@maus3454 Netherlands Damen Shipyards is building the new 126 Class Frigattes for Germany, which are 160m long. Maybe there is an secret arrangement to get and give
@@_Alfa.Bravo_ ,..,,
About the smell at 15:42 : During Rotterdam Harbour days in 2016 I had a tour on HMS Bruinvis, shortly after the midlife upgrade. Nothing special about the smell that I can remember. Could be totally different after a few weeks at sea of course.
Fascinating, thank you.
Could you do a brief on the Zwaardvis class? My dad served on the 2nd boat in the class, the Tijgerhaai so it's a topic i'm always interested in. I also recently learned that the Taiwanese have 2 boats of the class, and with the recent completion of the new Taiwanese Hai Kung class being heavily based on the Dutch boats it might be an interesting video. Plus, the Zwaardvis and Tijgerhaai were involved in some truly epic operations.
Remember that classic optical illusion video with the people playing basketball, and Bigfoot walks right through everything?
That's what the exercise story reminded me of...
7:48 and I absolutely love the photo here, and I'm looking at it like jesus, how did they not ding the paint, like what did Mr Scott forget the door code again?!
Great show thank you
RDM was already in trouble while they were building the Walrus-class. A possible lifeline seemed to be Taiwan wanting to buy about half a dozen of these submarines but after being bullied by the Chinese government the Dutch parliament refused to provide an export license and rather let the RDM go belly-up. Taiwan went to the French instead and the French didn't give a damn about Chinese threats.
BTW the Dutch submarine service gained a solid reputation during WW2 for their operations in the Pacific, through their aggressive deployment under command of Commander Conrad "Ship-a-day" Helfrich. In the first weeks of the war the tiny force of Dutch submarines sank more Japanese ships than the British and Americans combined earning the commander his nick-name. After the fall of the Dutch colonies the Dutch submarine service were seconded to the British Royal Navy.
The Dude : It's all a god damn fake, man. It's like Lenin said: you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh, you know...
Donny : I am the walrus.
Test depth is 1000 feet, which is about 305 meters, but this boat can dive considerably deeper. One of the reasons for Taiwan to choose the Dutch submarines, because of the deep waters around Taiwan.
Thanks for this vid, appreciate it a lot.
If it aint Dutch, it aint much ;-)
Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.
No matter what sub you upload. I allways want to play Dangerous Waters afterwards.
Offtopic: how hard would it be for Jive Turkey to upload Victor III sounds from far and medium ranges?
I read "a skelleton in a toolbox" all the time. So... yeah.... really wonder how that sounds compared to "other machine sounds i know"
Edit: that photo, the one left under at 23:32, is effing epic !!
Check out the V tail Bonanza aircraft. Can easily translate the commands from vertical inputs to diagonal surfaces. Don't need a computer unless you're US Navy.
what is the fire hydrant shaped device on the submarine top deck close to the waterline in the thumbnail? It is also visible at 6 seconds into video.
Had a personal guided tour on one of these subs ones! Wasnt the most confortable tour considering Im a typical Dutch guy... also known as a giant 😂😂😂
These are great boats considering their age. However, I never enjoyed the chocolate sprinkles on bread for the evening meal.
9:13 it does not necessarily mean a computer. V tails on aircraft are pretty old and can be done purely mechanically or on a hydraulic system.
The Beechcraft Bonanza is probably the most known plane with this configuration and that definitely doesn't have any computers (manufactured from the mid 40's).
A vtail is different from a xtail its no a double vtail on top and below.
Even with a radio controlled plane you need a computer for using a x tail. A vtail i just need to change some radio settings
Great video, but you got 1 detail wrong. The Dutch navy only ever had 2 Zwaardvis class boats, the Zwaardvis, and the Tijgerhaai. (both retired) The other 2 were export boats sold to Taiwan and remain in active service with them. Currently the Dutch navy only has 4 submarines of the Walrus class. But can only field 1 of them at a time. This is because at any one time 2 boats are in maintenance/modernization. the 4th boat sadly hasn't operated in a long time due to lack of crew. In the next few years 1 more boat will retired leaving only 2 boats the "Dolfijn" and the "Bruinvis". Fun fact, I had the opportunity to come on board the Bruinvis some years ago and got a detailed tour of the entire boat from some of the officers :)
Edit: the Dolfijn and Bruinvis will remain in service into the mid 1930s until the replacement class is FINALLY build.
oh, good catch. Thank you. I hate making mistakes, but it happens.
I was waiting for this one!
I'm a dutch-y!
As far as the Walrus class I can say they are distinct in having the praise of special operations forces throughout the western world, they are always mentioned as exceedingly capable with missions like insertion and other "special" missions, both due to her size and the fact it was always planned as a feature and really integrated into the platform, thanks for mentioning how she can BE a towed array herself and not need one cause that's true lmao
I'm not a sub connoisseur but I heard the walrus class is the best shallow water specialist in the world. Being capable of getting a lot closer to the shore than a lot of other subs. This makes them a very good asset for NATO for intelligence gathering and special forces deployments.
Great subject. Correction at 2:25 not 6 but 4 boats: Walrus, Zeeleeuw, Dolfijn and Bruinvis.
Well, the Walrus class is a direct improvement of the Zwaardvisch design. We had abouth 6 (2 Zwaardvisch, 4 Walrus class) in the early '90s, although HNLRMS Walrus was delayed due to on-board fire during it's construction, so don't quote me on that. Zwaardvisch and Tijgerhaai where decomissoned in '94 & '95 and sold to Taiwan bugging the People's Liberation Army.
And I've got the original Dutch version "In deepest secrecy" laying within literal arms reach.
I don't see the short fin Barracuda happening. With the Aussie deal falling apart there are not many hulls left to spread R&D costs.....
Fixed stern surfaces are the only ones in the prop wash. Control planes need moving ship to work. Must have been really difficult at slow speeds.
Being Dutch I'm really happy to see this one.
So breaking the keel is like pulling the threads on a fabric? Eg sock. The constant movement allows the stiching to come undone.
Another great brief, thanks for all your hard work. Now, the Zwaardvis class have all been decommed, right? Does that mean the Dutch have only these four Walrus class subs operational?
Yup, only four!
thank you for this youtube
Hey, wait a minute.... I made this. :-) Glad you enjoyed it.
Very interesting
The Swedish Sjöormen class was the first submarine with an X-rudder. It was commissioned in already in 1968.
Could you do a comprehensive comparison between walrus class Netherlands, collins class Australia and oyashio class Japan which are all of similar size, vintage and technical origins.
Would be very interesting !
16:20 biggest nerf gun darts I’ve ever seen!
Tell the bit about an X shaped rudder being "a new way of thinking" to Beachcraft and their 1947 Model 35 Bonanza.
(Feared by doctors everywhere)
Damen is a Dutch company which might influence the final decision on what new submarine will be bought. I hope national pride, politics and financial considerations don't play too large a part in the final decision and the Dutch government will make their purchasing decision based purely on what platform suits the operational needs of the navy the best.
Alright! More subs
"All submarines are quiet" *sad Han noises*
Is there a good reason why mark subs have their torpedo tubes on the bottom? It seems like it would be way easier to load if they were on the top deck.
9:40 Does an x rudder cause more drag during turns than a + rudder?
Wow! You said admiralty, properly.
I need a drink.
I am the Walrus.
max depth of the walrus class is officially 300+ metres, some sources cite design depth should be double that of the zwaardvis class, which is 220 metres. That's probably one of the reasons different steel is used. of course depth is dependent on nuts, bolts, seals, piping, valves etc, but double the zwaardvis class would be 440 metres.... it's still highly classified, but one would assume the 1000 ft is quite a bit on the conservative side, and I wouldn't be surprised is most if not all capabilities which are public nare on the 'conservative side'
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My brother lived on the same street as the queen. Apparently she's a nice lady.
When is the video about the diesel sub the US just launched last week?
Surprised the towed array can be replaced by panels on the side, i thought the towed array is there to cover the aft segment otherwise covered by the crew ?!
Oh and V-tails on airplanes are around much longer by no means require a computer… a simple mechanical mixer can achieve this
I see you spent time on board Aaron, 19:40. (closest to the camera)
we share the same jaw line. haha.
I'm confused as you made mention to the contract between the naval group and Australia for a modified Shortfin Baracuda, as you had previously made reference to the failure of this contract.
This subbrief is ovder a year old. First he releases the subbrief to the paying Patreon supporters. Then, after a year has passed by, he releases the same video for free to the RUclips audience. So his remark about Naval Group must be seen in this light.
Goo goo g'joob
the Queen is happy to have a very good cocaine transport (smuggle) vessel
Can not recommend Jaime Karreman's book enough, it explains a lot. E.G. why the Dutch subs ended up operating in the Med, not the most logical place as seen from the Netherlands (1950s Dutch diesel subs operating off the North Cape of Europe was not the best application of submarine power it turned out).
One thing not mentioned explicitly is the fact that Dutch subs need to be long range to reach the Caribbean. They make fuel stops in the Azores I believe. The Caribbean is also the reason why Dutch subs can withstand the hot air better than German or Swedish subs.
An anecdote tells that after the Arabian Sea / off Somalia hunting pirates episode of one of the Dutch subs the Germans wanted to do the same but found out their subs couldn't reach the area by themselves and could not deal with the hot air.
As for nuclear propulsion, don't know if it really was considered for the Walrus class. Back in the late 50s / early 60s a study was done but there was one overriding reason: the USA wasn't willing to share technology with such a small country / navy. One of the cited reasons was lack of knowledge of all things nuclear. Sounds familiar (looking at you Aussies)?
We have progressed on that issue since with a research reactor, a reactor that produces isotopes, ultracentrifuge and 2 nuclear powerplants (one still in operation) but I wonder if the USA would now be willing to share the knowledge or allow other NATO nations to share it after the whole Australian saga? Maybe the French will come up with a new good deal to make up for the loss of the Australian subs?
This might explain some of the holdup in the decisionmaking process. It seems it might yet take a while before the first new sub will be build as no final decision has been reached.
Correct , the dutch submariners quickly realized the need for climate controle early 1900s when operating in the far east and even had a cooling unit for their batteries , with some engineers making modifications so the submarine could be cooled as well. The Dutch always had specific specifications , and quite some inovations over the past 120 years.
Ngl the blue and orange torpedos look like nerf darts lol
Wonder how AUKUS has changed, if at all, the Dutch’s selection on the Walrus’ replacement. Maybe it’s just the Aussie’s getting shafted but from a customer standpoint that couldn’t have made the Naval Group look good to buyers.
I can tell you that there won't be french subs , but our own class subs built by Netherlands and Germany
It will be either Saab/Damen or Thyssen Krupp with another dutch venture. I hope they will make a decision soon. It already took too long.
@@bass808 het zal thyssen Krupp worden, omdat dit goedkoper is, en de samenwerking al loopt met Damen. O.a. in de ontwikkeling van n nieuw type fregat. En omdat zo gebouwd kan worden in o.a. Roemenië, wat nog verder kosten drukken Is
Bovendien zit er te veel pijn ten aanzien van Thales en klm om de fransen ook maar iets te gunnen.
Bovendien bouwen we liever zelf, en, de Duitsers hebben extra kennis, kunde en materiaal in handen voor de bekleding vd subs, die we graag in handen willen krijgen.
Als Nederland nu goed investeerd hebben we top Klasse subs in huis. En met het oog op Venezuela zullen we toch weer n vloot moeten opbouwen.
Hi love your talks... by the way wasn't the French deal with Australia scraped for a nuclear powered sub deal with the USA and the British?
Yep. AUKUS.
The RUclips release is usually delayed a bit, if ever released. His financial supporters get them first (or at all!)
Proud to be dutch 🇳🇱
Aaron what's X shaped radar? Your best misread to date.
Goes great with an X-band rudder.
If they are on a very aggressive schedule, perhaps we should procure some more boats.
Or use 2 crews
@@jeffreyskoritowski4114 My line of thinking was: more boats = more concurrent locations available. I presume each boat has multiple crews already. (I know very little about this subject and nothing of that is professional knowledge).
Compared to other submarines, the walrus class can spend a lot more time out on a mission before needing maintenance. So in this case, less is more :-)