Hey Nick do you fear the unregulated use of Artificial intelligence? Square space may get put out of business before proper regulations to protect people's livelihoods and identities are put in place.
Good vid. I've been using a System 76 Pangolin Pang11 for about 6 months and have had zero problems with the daily drive. I had a shipping issue with some storm damage which: 1. A person answered the phone -- huge plus for me. 2. Understood the problem and my replacement was inbound within a day. 3. My only dislike are the speakers. Tinny to my ear. However, I have hearing damage from the Navy, wear hearing aids, so take that with a grain of salt. I fix that issue with earbuds or over the ear headphones -- so in that mode the sound is perfect (again for my not so good ears). Keep up the good work as I look forward to each and every installment always delivered with a sense of humor. L8R
Appreciate your writeup, it's reassuring to know that sys76's on-call support and replacement service is _on point!_ 👍 Speaking of, I'd love to hear about Nick's personal experience with Tuxedo/Slimbook's support services, since he's a long-term owner of several of their devices.
Thank you for this review! I've been hoping for a review of a System76 device and I've had an interest in this device specifically with the recent release.
I have the Oryx Pro 17" and it is solid, no flex. I love it. With a 17" screen I will never go back. With support from Sys76 I have been able to fix any problems. Gaming is awesome! I love Linux as a new convert. POP OS is perfect for New users.
Watching this from my Pang12! Agreed with the webcam, I actually reached out to support, it's so bad I thought it was broken. Trackpad is a little hit or miss as well. Besides that, great device!
Very thorough review! I do want to point something out about your desire for a linux laptop with a fingerprint reader: I don't know how it is in France, but in the states, where System76 operates, law enforcement can compel you to unlock a device via fingerprint or face, but CANNOT compel you to provide a password. So just in terms of OPSEC, at least in the US, it's far less secure to use biometric devices for unlocking.
I would have preferred less of the bottom bezel, more RAM options and a dedicated GPU option. Otherwise, it's a solid laptop. I'm looking forward to what System76 provides in the future!
The laptop is listed as an "ultraportable laptop" so I guess integrated graphics is just fine for that purpose. I am on the same page for the rest though.
Tip: it is a great laptop if you want it to look as generic as possible. The system 76 on to pi a sticker. Just remove it if you want nothing or your own stickers
The point of USB-PD is to be able to charge from a power bank, you don’t want to lose a usb-c port because it is always populated for charging. While I agree that 1080p is a bit small, a 1440p screen will draw more power. Besides, you can kind of ~~cheat~~ compromise and display more on the screen by setting the resolution higher with xrandr 🤟 Arch, btw
Word of caution for assuming that Linux distributions other than Ubuntu and Pop!_OS would be supported OOTB. I found on the HP Dev One that Fedora in particular had issues with non-Intel wifi cards.
Yep. I got so frustrated that I just put the AX210 in everything I own. I noticed that Ubuntu 22.10 also had the same issue with the Dev One's wifi. It might have been a driver regression in the kernel itself, but I'm not techy enough to verify that. I encountered the issue once on Pop OS. I restored from the recovery partition and never had the problem since, so I assume System76 noticed this and pushed out their own patch.
The mousepad is always centered on the main keyboard (where the hands are) and that does not include the numeric pad, so it seems misplaced, but is not... (visual TOC 😅)
Agreed. I just don't get it at this point. Fine maybe when the OEM they used only supplied bad screens and there weren't options. But how are all these other companies offering 16:10 2k screens and s76 cannot?
@@rolingpingu It doesn’t sound like it but the difference is outstanding. Basically, picture that black chassis bar at the bottom of the display… and turn it into more screen space. You gain A LOT.
a full amd laptop, i'm always curious cause most linux devices have a rtx or something nvidia related, guess that some nvidia tools for content creators still necessary.. what is your personal experience with your desktop Nick? what are u running there?
Tip: When comparing laptop CPUs you should also mention the TDP of the CPU/GPU as the same CPU/GPU could run at completely different TDP, practicly capping the performance. Tip2: would be nice to show 2 different laptops in paralel on some comparisons, for instance web cams and sound quality.
I think for the price that amount of storage should be standard, but at least it's only a $19 upgrade. But I won't complain about the standard 32GB of memory
Not centered on the chassis itself: equal distance between each edge of the touchpad and each edge of the chassis. It looks better and feels more intuitive
I wonder where they can get with superlight ARM based laptops. Seeing how far they are with the M1 reverse engineering it should be a walk in the park.
Already good arm procs out there, its better to stay x86 for people who do work. I can't use m1 or 2 at my job just for the very reason you can't use most tools on arm/mac yet. Try to run all the kali tools on m1.....
2:15 I don't know what kind of Laptop reviews you did or watched in the last few years, but this doesn't look like minimal. It's more alongside much (at least from the angle of view you showed).
My laptop only has 500MB of RAM and has been running perfectly fine. (Since I started to boot it about a year ago - any moment the signon prompt will be there ....) 😉 You did tell me to write it in the comments - do i win a prize?
I'm seeing a trend on laptop keyboards: Either a 60% or a Full-sized... no middle ground. For me, the optimal is 75% either on Laptops or dektops... but mostly laptops. I edit on DaVinci Resolve, so the Del key is a must and, I use the SUper+PgUp/PgDwn to switch between workspaces on GNOME or COSMIC so I need these nav keys to be there.
isn't centering the track pad based on where the right arm is for right handed people. for myself if the track pad was centered then it would be extra annoying because i rest my palm there and it just enough off center that its easier to go from typing to moving the mouse cursor with out moving my palm too much and losing my point of reference with the keyboard.
Looks good besides the soldered ram thing. I don't understand why (besides planned obsolescence) companies refuse to add even a single sodimm slot for future upgrades. Annoying, especially from a company like System76 where you'd assume they're more for the user, but apparently not.
I think the two Linux laptop manufacturers whose devices being free from the planned obsolencence are being the LaptopWithLinux and Tuxedo Computers, basically for now.
For reviews of any kind on Linux when talking about iGPUs; always use gamescope -h 720 -f to compare the 780m and newer generations of iGPUs with the previous ones and advertise the proper way to game on Linux with a lower end iGPU vs proper full size GPUs. There are so many people especially doing the resting on Windows where they dont even notice the negative side of DX12 only allowing borderless-window so that FSR2 and XeSS are required to hit any good FPS numbers. Back in da day lads, with CRTs, we had exclusive fullscreen and flat screens had the issue of long resolution-hand-shaking times. My LG C1 is rather quick. I assume modern gaming monitors are fast too. So no need to complain about but many of the past's issues are still a common myth nowadays sadly.
At 1:32 you stroke the lid which shows quite a bit of lid flex. I feel like you glossed over that bc that's not very good build quality IMO @TheLinuxEXP
@@TheLinuxEXP I did another search! Techrepublic and ghacks tells us that the feature is apparently in beta, because GNOME doesn't fully support biometrics yet in Pop OS, but you can still set it up using fprintd to enroll, and pam-auth-update to set it up for login and password prompts. I can't verify that without a Pangolin though.
It always depends on what you're trying to do with the device. 8GBs of RAM for a laptop for "daily normal use" and on top of that runs Linux instead of Windows... it's gonna be fine. I think of 8GBs today as the lowest standard for people like my mom, or administrative office usage.
The power button IS a fingerprint reader. But the manufacturer provides no Linux drivers. I hate when manufacturers do this. You can make the most advanced widget in the world, but if you crap out on the drivers, it's landfill stuffing. At the very least, just open source your drivers, and let the community clean up your mess for you.
Great review! Wanted to get a Slimbook at first but live in America so if I had to RMA shipping would cost. After this review considering system76. Not buying till later this year so have time to think. But I tend to be a Debian user so HW support might be bad. Will try Pop in deciding what brand.
Perhaps a framework laptop would be what you need? They just came out with an AMD version and have a 16 inch on the way. A bonus is that it is 100% user serviceable.
@@antoniomromo That looks really cool. A fully modular laptop is like a dream. I hope it becomes big. Would be nice if that setup allows upgrading mobile GPU's as new ones come out..
@@Jacob6853 The company is actually working on a 16 inch version with a graphics card module. So you would be able to swap them out. Unfortunately it is still in the prototype phase.
Wow, 1299$ for a (albeit upper) mid-range is *steep*! A decent mid-range laptop in my book is 800-900 max. Well the problem remains, Linux laptops are all boutique hardware, and we have to pay a _hefty_ premium for them :-(
Yeah, and even more so for people like me outside of the US; same story with buying Tuxedo/Slimbook laptops outside of the EU. 😔 Would be nice if these companies can provide a 'Barebone' option, so that we could at least source our own storage / RAM / wireless cards locally.
@@relsre I did buy my Tuxedo barebones, and I think you can get em barebones from some of the others too. I just deeply regretted it later (just like my purchase of Tuxedo altogether) when the cable for the keyboard backlight snapped at my first attempt of opening the chassis (no, it's NOT easy to do) and the only way to repair it was to pay up to 300€ (of course they blamed it on me) or use sticky tape.
The PC case and frame is Magnesium alloy not aluminun according to system 76. Very informatve video thanks.... oh... my PC has 4 GB of Ram and it dont run fine. 😂
Wait, this is aluminium ? I remember Wendell reviewing the same model yesterday and saying it's magnesium. Also, Shadow of the Tomb Raider is NOT badly optimised, WTF. Demanding and badly optimised are completely different things!
Noob question. Which is easier and more secure: dual booting a Linux distro on a modern x86 PC or dual booting Windows with a Linux specific machine? You know, just in case I need windows for a hot second.
x86 isn't modern, I guess you meant x86_64? aka amd64. Anyway, I don't see any *security* difference. As to what would work better - no idea, you'll have to research Linux and Windows support for the specific machine you want.
the ram not being replaceable is pretty disappointing. i would like to know the reasoning for that, when they are a company that supports open source. seems like when the warranty runs out, you will be shit out of luck if the ram stops working. that is a no go for me and will be searching for another company for my laptop. Like Framework.
seems like a good laptop design but for 1200 is a bit much. system76 should consider working with Framework to create laptops if they want to inspire change.
LP DDR5. You can't make it modular. It's a call between better battery efficiency and performance or having modular ram. Framework is not known for its battery life...There are tons of other points of failure soldered on to the board so not sure why youd worry about the ram more than those. The lack of future upgradability is likely the bigger issue but 32 gb is pretty good for most (not saying all) use cases and when you need more you'd probably need a new CPU too which isn't modularly replaceable either even on framework (have to buy the whole new board)
@@vika3750 show me proof. that does make any sense. How does having a board being socket-ed cause more power draw. maybe a few ohms from the connector. the only reason is for speed transfer. why not design a better socket. what you are missing is the better engineering. i could replace the board in a framework laptop upgrade the board. use the old board as a desktop pc.or whatever i want. maybe a slim server. i tthink you might being bias for system76. I use pop os as a daily. but if something is better for me, ill switch.
soldered ram is a no to me. yes with 32 gb upgrading might not be neccesary but if something break you cant fix it easily. i am also not that happy with the barrel plug.
My first “real” laptop had 2GB of ram, it wasn’t enough to run Windows 7 Starter (which it came with) well after a few Windows updates and the Intel Atom was better suited for Windows XP. It was so slow last time i ran it, that you really have to think before you klicked on anything. I decided to try Linux a few years ago and me and my dad tried to find a distribution that would run on it, but couldn’t find one which would run on 2GB of ram, furthermore the Bios wasn’t accessible. My old HP Pavilion G6 with 4GB of RAM on the other hand, is actually not that bad as long as you don’t push with anything more challenging than Eurotruck Simulator 2 (on minimum settings), Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005 or Burnout Paradise. It can’t run/play video shot with my iPhone 8 or Samsung Galaxy A72, with out “lagging”, but that is the outdated integrated graphics, 3rd gen Intel i5. And USB 2.
Yet another keyboard with a numpad that is useless. Keyboards need the number pad to be the same spacing as the other keys or it should not be there at all. Data entry is ruined with these new "search and poke" keys.
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in lower resolution shadow of the tomb raider performs well
Hey Nick do you fear the unregulated use of Artificial intelligence?
Square space may get put out of business before proper regulations to protect people's livelihoods and identities are put in place.
How does this compare to a thinkpad? Am I better off buying one of those? I live in the USA if that helps.
My computer only has 640K of RAM and it's been running fine!
Hahaha amazing!
Whoa your computer is fast, i only have 16K
@@radiicall My ZX Spectrum has only 48K of RAM and I can play the games on it!
K??? As in kilobytes? My computer only has 32 bytes...
What OS it runs?
Good vid. I've been using a System 76 Pangolin Pang11 for about 6 months and have had zero problems with the daily drive. I had a shipping issue with some storm damage which:
1. A person answered the phone -- huge plus for me.
2. Understood the problem and my replacement was inbound within a day.
3. My only dislike are the speakers. Tinny to my ear. However, I have hearing damage from the Navy, wear hearing aids, so take that with a grain of salt.
I fix that issue with earbuds or over the ear headphones -- so in that mode the sound is perfect (again for my not so good ears).
Keep up the good work as I look forward to each and every installment always delivered with a sense of humor.
L8R
I don't think you should expect speakers from these kinds of ultra thin laptops to be anything better than barely audible lol
Appreciate your writeup, it's reassuring to know that sys76's on-call support and replacement service is _on point!_ 👍
Speaking of, I'd love to hear about Nick's personal experience with Tuxedo/Slimbook's support services, since he's a long-term owner of several of their devices.
Thank you for this review! I've been hoping for a review of a System76 device and I've had an interest in this device specifically with the recent release.
It's really nice seeing more and more AMD Linux laptops! Don't know about everyone else, I'm just looking forward for Star Labs's StarFighter
The StarFighter is on the market already. You can buy it.
@@brandon_wallace No it's not, it's just currently open for preorder; they'll start shipping in 4-5 months.
@@altrogeruvah it is mucho $$$.
I have the Oryx Pro 17" and it is solid, no flex. I love it. With a 17" screen I will never go back. With support from Sys76 I have been able to fix any problems. Gaming is awesome! I love Linux as a new convert. POP OS is perfect for New users.
A pangolin is also a animal. In the Netherlands we call it a gordeldier.
I want one as a pet.
It looks like an armored ant-eater.
Watching this from my Pang12! Agreed with the webcam, I actually reached out to support, it's so bad I thought it was broken. Trackpad is a little hit or miss as well. Besides that, great device!
I've been running a Lemur 9 since 2020 and it has been pretty solid. Pop has even become my favorite distro.
Very thorough review! I do want to point something out about your desire for a linux laptop with a fingerprint reader: I don't know how it is in France, but in the states, where System76 operates, law enforcement can compel you to unlock a device via fingerprint or face, but CANNOT compel you to provide a password. So just in terms of OPSEC, at least in the US, it's far less secure to use biometric devices for unlocking.
It depends on which court jursidiction you're in. They seem to flip flop more than pancakes.
This is the laptop I have been waiting for!!! AMD Ryzen 7 6800U CPU, no dGPU, and a high refresh rate FHD panel!!!
Did you buy it? And if so, what do you think after a few months of usage?
@@agrisimfarming I didn't get it. Got the Legion 7 gen 7 AMD instead.
I would have preferred less of the bottom bezel, more RAM options and a dedicated GPU option. Otherwise, it's a solid laptop. I'm looking forward to what System76 provides in the future!
The laptop is listed as an "ultraportable laptop" so I guess integrated graphics is just fine for that purpose. I am on the same page for the rest though.
Tip: it is a great laptop if you want it to look as generic as possible. The system 76 on to pi a sticker. Just remove it if you want nothing or your own stickers
Yeah for us in Europe don’t forget import taxes, VAT. That is the major issue. Shipping costs not so much!
As always writing a comment to support the channel
7:34
Huh, a new way to get rickrolled lol.
The point of USB-PD is to be able to charge from a power bank, you don’t want to lose a usb-c port because it is always populated for charging.
While I agree that 1080p is a bit small, a 1440p screen will draw more power. Besides, you can kind of ~~cheat~~ compromise and display more on the screen by setting the resolution higher with xrandr 🤟
Arch, btw
Word of caution for assuming that Linux distributions other than Ubuntu and Pop!_OS would be supported OOTB. I found on the HP Dev One that Fedora in particular had issues with non-Intel wifi cards.
Yep. I got so frustrated that I just put the AX210 in everything I own. I noticed that Ubuntu 22.10 also had the same issue with the Dev One's wifi. It might have been a driver regression in the kernel itself, but I'm not techy enough to verify that. I encountered the issue once on Pop OS. I restored from the recovery partition and never had the problem since, so I assume System76 noticed this and pushed out their own patch.
The mousepad is always centered on the main keyboard (where the hands are) and that does not include the numeric pad, so it seems misplaced, but is not... (visual TOC 😅)
I wish they would do a 16/10 already… :\
That's my only complain on System76's laptops.
Agreed. I just don't get it at this point. Fine maybe when the OEM they used only supplied bad screens and there weren't options. But how are all these other companies offering 16:10 2k screens and s76 cannot?
Is it really that different compared to 16:9?
@@rolingpingu It doesn’t sound like it but the difference is outstanding. Basically, picture that black chassis bar at the bottom of the display… and turn it into more screen space. You gain A LOT.
@@rolingpingu well, you notice the extra real estate on productivity Apps and, on 2023, the chin feels like wasted space.
Framework .... I hope they win. Gonna get their stuff next time around
a full amd laptop, i'm always curious cause most linux devices have a rtx or something nvidia related, guess that some nvidia tools for content creators still necessary..
what is your personal experience with your desktop Nick? what are u running there?
Content creator and nVidia!
Sounds strange!
Nvidia on my laptop and desktop, flawless experience on my side!
Tip: When comparing laptop CPUs you should also mention the TDP of the CPU/GPU as the same CPU/GPU could run at completely different TDP, practicly capping the performance.
Tip2: would be nice to show 2 different laptops in paralel on some comparisons, for instance web cams and sound quality.
I'm very excited about the AMD laptop. I only wish it had 90 watt battery
I had a system 76 laptop back in college in like 2005. I loved that laptop but unfortunately a lot of software I had to use was Windows only.
@@new-lviv nope been around a while.
Thanx for the review. Sounds like a nice laptop.
I think it should have 500 GB with 16 Ram in addition the screen ratio with 16:10 or 3:2 would have been better than 144hz panel.
I think for the price that amount of storage should be standard, but at least it's only a $19 upgrade. But I won't complain about the standard 32GB of memory
As someone who has used both 16:9 and 16:10 screens on laptops, I actually prefer 16:9 since content fills the whole screen without black bars.
It doesn't have fingerprint reader, but you can have face recognition if you install howdy.
a 3:2 screen would be so good on one of these. 16:9 laptops are a tough sell for me these days.
Man I hate 16:9, they’re not designed for work, they’re designed for watching movies
How would you use centered touchpad?
Or do you mean it is not centered well between f and j?
Not centered on the chassis itself: equal distance between each edge of the touchpad and each edge of the chassis. It looks better and feels more intuitive
@@TheLinuxEXP Looks-wise ok. But I think it would be functional nightmare. I need it between my hands not below one of them
I wonder where they can get with superlight ARM based laptops. Seeing how far they are with the M1 reverse engineering it should be a walk in the park.
Already good arm procs out there, its better to stay x86 for people who do work. I can't use m1 or 2 at my job just for the very reason you can't use most tools on arm/mac yet. Try to run all the kali tools on m1.....
The Framework laptop has great linux support and has a fingerprint reader
How many external displays can it support?
Yes a linux laptop with a numerical keypad!
2:15 I don't know what kind of Laptop reviews you did or watched in the last few years, but this doesn't look like minimal. It's more alongside much (at least from the angle of view you showed).
My laptop only has 500MB of RAM and has been running perfectly fine. (Since I started to boot it about a year ago - any moment the signon prompt will be there ....)
😉 You did tell me to write it in the comments - do i win a prize?
32GB LPDDR5 6800U with 70W*h battery, literally my ideal laptop. Unfortunately, I can't buy it in my country...
Thanks.
Would you guys prefer a system76 or a tuxedo ?
What clockspeed did the cpu cores and reach and mantained at while doing the benchmarks (including tomb raider).
I'm seeing a trend on laptop keyboards: Either a 60% or a Full-sized... no middle ground.
For me, the optimal is 75% either on Laptops or dektops... but mostly laptops.
I edit on DaVinci Resolve, so the Del key is a must and, I use the SUper+PgUp/PgDwn to switch between workspaces on GNOME or COSMIC so I need these nav keys to be there.
I love the subtle rickroll😂
wait the hinge is actually good on it?
Sounds like you would want the 16 inch Framework laptop so you can be sure to center the touchpad, lol.
I’d love to get my hands on one!
isn't centering the track pad based on where the right arm is for right handed people. for myself if the track pad was centered then it would be extra annoying because i rest my palm there and it just enough off center that its easier to go from typing to moving the mouse cursor with out moving my palm too much and losing my point of reference with the keyboard.
What about display brightness? I think I read it was only 250 nits which seems very dim.
It’s not the brightest, yeah
Looks good besides the soldered ram thing. I don't understand why (besides planned obsolescence) companies refuse to add even a single sodimm slot for future upgrades. Annoying, especially from a company like System76 where you'd assume they're more for the user, but apparently not.
I think the two Linux laptop manufacturers whose devices being free from the planned obsolencence are being the LaptopWithLinux and Tuxedo Computers, basically for now.
@@ВладимирДимов-л6р the new Tuxedo Pulse 14 (similair to the Pangolin) also comes with soldered RAM
Decoding video actually can be pretty minor compared to regular workloads, like web browsing or office suites.
What about the UEFI ? Is it coreboot ?
I live in Iowa and I am waiting to buy my own System 76 laptop. Soon, I hope. Nice review. I am trending heavily toward coreboot...
Do you run games on lowa settings?
@@arkvsi8142 not a gamer, retired programmer/analyst.
@@jamessmith4229 you did not get the joke (Lower/Lowa) :'v
I only use registers for memory. Doing just fine.
You guys use bytes? My computer runs using a carrier pigeon and it works fine!
For reviews of any kind on Linux when talking about iGPUs; always use gamescope -h 720 -f to compare the 780m and newer generations of iGPUs with the previous ones and advertise the proper way to game on Linux with a lower end iGPU vs proper full size GPUs. There are so many people especially doing the resting on Windows where they dont even notice the negative side of DX12 only allowing borderless-window so that FSR2 and XeSS are required to hit any good FPS numbers. Back in da day lads, with CRTs, we had exclusive fullscreen and flat screens had the issue of long resolution-hand-shaking times. My LG C1 is rather quick. I assume modern gaming monitors are fast too. So no need to complain about but many of the past's issues are still a common myth nowadays sadly.
Btw pangolins (the animal) are pretty cool. Makes me want to get one of these laptops lol
My laptop only has 500GiB of RAM and it's been running perfectly fine.
You should do a review of the framwork laptop if you have not yet.
At 1:32 you stroke the lid which shows quite a bit of lid flex. I feel like you glossed over that bc that's not very good build quality IMO @TheLinuxEXP
Does this work with Thunderbolt docks? I have a Dell WD19TB.
Have you thought about revising Juno laptops?
They never offered again after the first review I did for I’ve of their laptops. It wasn’t a very positive one. and I could tell they were not happy…
@@TheLinuxEXP I"m considering getting one. What do you think?
Wendell from Level1Techs confirmed there is a fingerprint scanner in the power button, for anybody wondering.
Oh nice! But it doesn’t have any Linux drivers then?
@@TheLinuxEXP I did another search! Techrepublic and ghacks tells us that the feature is apparently in beta, because GNOME doesn't fully support biometrics yet in Pop OS, but you can still set it up using fprintd to enroll, and pam-auth-update to set it up for login and password prompts. I can't verify that without a Pangolin though.
I thought the Ryzen 7 doesn't have virtualization?
I would like to see MX Linux installed on this laptop.
R U sure regarding fingerprint scanner and touchpad? I saw another review say otherwise
Well, there was no way for me to configure a fingerprint on it, but I might have missed it
I love a fingerprint reader on linux mint, weirdly the drivers are installed tho; but got no way of setting it up. Oh well.
Is it a touchscreen?
Nope!
System 76 is a Amazing Metal Gear...
Looks pretty decent.
System76 made you wait for the best part :D
It always depends on what you're trying to do with the device. 8GBs of RAM for a laptop for "daily normal use" and on top of that runs Linux instead of Windows... it's gonna be fine. I think of 8GBs today as the lowest standard for people like my mom, or administrative office usage.
I actually had to upgrade my laptop to 16GB recently, 8 is not enough to compile big Rust projects
Yeah, definitely
The new pangolins now have a better cpu+igpu combo, but are 16 in and the display is 1080 60hz. I'd honestly prefer the one on this videos
The power button IS a fingerprint reader. But the manufacturer provides no Linux drivers.
I hate when manufacturers do this. You can make the most advanced widget in the world, but if you crap out on the drivers, it's landfill stuffing. At the very least, just open source your drivers, and let the community clean up your mess for you.
Great review! Wanted to get a Slimbook at first but live in America so if I had to RMA shipping would cost. After this review considering system76. Not buying till later this year so have time to think. But I tend to be a Debian user so HW support might be bad. Will try Pop in deciding what brand.
Perhaps a framework laptop would be what you need? They just came out with an AMD version and have a 16 inch on the way. A bonus is that it is 100% user serviceable.
Wow thanks @The Linux Experiment!
@@antoniomromo That looks really cool. A fully modular laptop is like a dream. I hope it becomes big. Would be nice if that setup allows upgrading mobile GPU's as new ones come out..
@@Jacob6853 The company is actually working on a 16 inch version with a graphics card module. So you would be able to swap them out. Unfortunately it is still in the prototype phase.
My laptop only has 500 MB of RAM and its been running fine!
Those bezels though…
Wow, 1299$ for a (albeit upper) mid-range is *steep*! A decent mid-range laptop in my book is 800-900 max. Well the problem remains, Linux laptops are all boutique hardware, and we have to pay a _hefty_ premium for them :-(
Yeah, and even more so for people like me outside of the US; same story with buying Tuxedo/Slimbook laptops outside of the EU. 😔
Would be nice if these companies can provide a 'Barebone' option, so that we could at least source our own storage / RAM / wireless cards locally.
@@relsre I did buy my Tuxedo barebones, and I think you can get em barebones from some of the others too. I just deeply regretted it later (just like my purchase of Tuxedo altogether) when the cable for the keyboard backlight snapped at my first attempt of opening the chassis (no, it's NOT easy to do) and the only way to repair it was to pay up to 300€ (of course they blamed it on me) or use sticky tape.
The PC case and frame is Magnesium alloy not aluminun according to system 76.
Very informatve video thanks.... oh... my PC has 4 GB of Ram and it dont run fine. 😂
Pass. Touchpad not centered due to presence of numpad, which I don't need.
I have the MeerKat(ubuntu) and the Darter Pro(PopOS) and they are great!
I still prefer the tuxedo as a brand. Especially for customers in Europe.
This is the expensive equivalent to Tuxedo I think
Wait, this is aluminium ? I remember Wendell reviewing the same model yesterday and saying it's magnesium.
Also, Shadow of the Tomb Raider is NOT badly optimised, WTF. Demanding and badly optimised are completely different things!
Their website says aluminium alloy, and it definitely feels more sturdy than magnesium
OK, here I go: my ThinkPad T61 has 4GB RAM 💪😁
My laptop only has 500 mb of ram and has been running perfectly fine
3:06 you do know pangolins are real animals, right?
I am waiting for my bonobo ws with 4090 to be delivered from system76!
Dell Latitude D630. 4GB running Mint XFCE
You can do "Triple A" gaming on a Steam Deck. This is more powerful than a Steam Deck. Just a thought.
Steam deck renders at 720p or 800p. This one is 1080p, 720p on this will look pretty bad
Noob question. Which is easier and more secure: dual booting a Linux distro on a modern x86 PC or dual booting Windows with a Linux specific machine? You know, just in case I need windows for a hot second.
Does it need to be a dual boot? Maybe Windows in a VM on the Linux machine?
x86 isn't modern, I guess you meant x86_64? aka amd64. Anyway, I don't see any *security* difference. As to what would work better - no idea, you'll have to research Linux and Windows support for the specific machine you want.
@@mks-h My first insufferable linux nomenclature troll of the day 🙄
@@ordinaryhuman5645 Ideally. I'd want to play games.
@@minekey29348 Linux has handled every game I've tried so far. YMMV.
PC good price is high 😮😮
Barrel charging no USB c charging? Thats ridiculous
Looks like the Framework will have fingerprint reader...
the ram not being replaceable is pretty disappointing. i would like to know the reasoning for that, when they are a company that supports open source. seems like when the warranty runs out, you will be shit out of luck if the ram stops working. that is a no go for me and will be searching for another company for my laptop. Like Framework.
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seems like a good laptop design but for 1200 is a bit much. system76 should consider working with Framework to create laptops if they want to inspire change.
LP DDR5. You can't make it modular. It's a call between better battery efficiency and performance or having modular ram. Framework is not known for its battery life...There are tons of other points of failure soldered on to the board so not sure why youd worry about the ram more than those. The lack of future upgradability is likely the bigger issue but 32 gb is pretty good for most (not saying all) use cases and when you need more you'd probably need a new CPU too which isn't modularly replaceable either even on framework (have to buy the whole new board)
@@vika3750 show me proof. that does make any sense. How does having a board being socket-ed cause more power draw. maybe a few ohms from the connector. the only reason is for speed transfer. why not design a better socket. what you are missing is the better engineering. i could replace the board in a framework laptop upgrade the board. use the old board as a desktop pc.or whatever i want. maybe a slim server. i tthink you might being bias for system76. I use pop os as a daily. but if something is better for me, ill switch.
Tfw no Spanish layout System76 laptops 😢😢😢
Three words:
"What's The Price ?"
People in the comments are so rich
soldered ram is a no to me. yes with 32 gb upgrading might not be neccesary but if something break you cant fix it easily.
i am also not that happy with the barrel plug.
My first “real” laptop had 2GB of ram, it wasn’t enough to run Windows 7 Starter (which it came with) well after a few Windows updates and the Intel Atom was better suited for Windows XP.
It was so slow last time i ran it, that you really have to think before you klicked on anything.
I decided to try Linux a few years ago and me and my dad tried to find a distribution that would run on it, but couldn’t find one which would run on 2GB of ram, furthermore the Bios wasn’t accessible.
My old HP Pavilion G6 with 4GB of RAM on the other hand, is actually not that bad as long as you don’t push with anything more challenging than Eurotruck Simulator 2 (on minimum settings), Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005 or Burnout Paradise.
It can’t run/play video shot with my iPhone 8 or Samsung Galaxy A72, with out “lagging”, but that is the outdated integrated graphics, 3rd gen Intel i5. And USB 2.
No, having a barrel charger is nice - in case you want to run an eGPU from the USB-C TB4 port.
Yet another keyboard with a numpad that is useless. Keyboards need the number pad to be the same spacing as the other keys or it should not be there at all. Data entry is ruined with these new "search and poke" keys.
Wasn't it Randy Marsh and a Pangolin that started Covid? I think Mickey Mouse had a hand in it too (or something else)😂🤣