Hey Nick do you fear the unregulated use of Artificial intelligence? Square space may get put out of business before proper regulations to protect people's livelihoods and identities are put in place.
Good vid. I've been using a System 76 Pangolin Pang11 for about 6 months and have had zero problems with the daily drive. I had a shipping issue with some storm damage which: 1. A person answered the phone -- huge plus for me. 2. Understood the problem and my replacement was inbound within a day. 3. My only dislike are the speakers. Tinny to my ear. However, I have hearing damage from the Navy, wear hearing aids, so take that with a grain of salt. I fix that issue with earbuds or over the ear headphones -- so in that mode the sound is perfect (again for my not so good ears). Keep up the good work as I look forward to each and every installment always delivered with a sense of humor. L8R
Appreciate your writeup, it's reassuring to know that sys76's on-call support and replacement service is _on point!_ 👍 Speaking of, I'd love to hear about Nick's personal experience with Tuxedo/Slimbook's support services, since he's a long-term owner of several of their devices.
I have the Oryx Pro 17" and it is solid, no flex. I love it. With a 17" screen I will never go back. With support from Sys76 I have been able to fix any problems. Gaming is awesome! I love Linux as a new convert. POP OS is perfect for New users.
Thank you for this review! I've been hoping for a review of a System76 device and I've had an interest in this device specifically with the recent release.
Very thorough review! I do want to point something out about your desire for a linux laptop with a fingerprint reader: I don't know how it is in France, but in the states, where System76 operates, law enforcement can compel you to unlock a device via fingerprint or face, but CANNOT compel you to provide a password. So just in terms of OPSEC, at least in the US, it's far less secure to use biometric devices for unlocking.
I would have preferred less of the bottom bezel, more RAM options and a dedicated GPU option. Otherwise, it's a solid laptop. I'm looking forward to what System76 provides in the future!
The laptop is listed as an "ultraportable laptop" so I guess integrated graphics is just fine for that purpose. I am on the same page for the rest though.
Watching this from my Pang12! Agreed with the webcam, I actually reached out to support, it's so bad I thought it was broken. Trackpad is a little hit or miss as well. Besides that, great device!
The point of USB-PD is to be able to charge from a power bank, you don’t want to lose a usb-c port because it is always populated for charging. While I agree that 1080p is a bit small, a 1440p screen will draw more power. Besides, you can kind of ~~cheat~~ compromise and display more on the screen by setting the resolution higher with xrandr 🤟 Arch, btw
Tip: it is a great laptop if you want it to look as generic as possible. The system 76 on to pi a sticker. Just remove it if you want nothing or your own stickers
Agreed. I just don't get it at this point. Fine maybe when the OEM they used only supplied bad screens and there weren't options. But how are all these other companies offering 16:10 2k screens and s76 cannot?
@@rolingpingu It doesn’t sound like it but the difference is outstanding. Basically, picture that black chassis bar at the bottom of the display… and turn it into more screen space. You gain A LOT.
Tip: When comparing laptop CPUs you should also mention the TDP of the CPU/GPU as the same CPU/GPU could run at completely different TDP, practicly capping the performance. Tip2: would be nice to show 2 different laptops in paralel on some comparisons, for instance web cams and sound quality.
I think for the price that amount of storage should be standard, but at least it's only a $19 upgrade. But I won't complain about the standard 32GB of memory
Word of caution for assuming that Linux distributions other than Ubuntu and Pop!_OS would be supported OOTB. I found on the HP Dev One that Fedora in particular had issues with non-Intel wifi cards.
Yep. I got so frustrated that I just put the AX210 in everything I own. I noticed that Ubuntu 22.10 also had the same issue with the Dev One's wifi. It might have been a driver regression in the kernel itself, but I'm not techy enough to verify that. I encountered the issue once on Pop OS. I restored from the recovery partition and never had the problem since, so I assume System76 noticed this and pushed out their own patch.
The mousepad is always centered on the main keyboard (where the hands are) and that does not include the numeric pad, so it seems misplaced, but is not... (visual TOC 😅)
I'm seeing a trend on laptop keyboards: Either a 60% or a Full-sized... no middle ground. For me, the optimal is 75% either on Laptops or dektops... but mostly laptops. I edit on DaVinci Resolve, so the Del key is a must and, I use the SUper+PgUp/PgDwn to switch between workspaces on GNOME or COSMIC so I need these nav keys to be there.
My laptop only has 500MB of RAM and has been running perfectly fine. (Since I started to boot it about a year ago - any moment the signon prompt will be there ....) 😉 You did tell me to write it in the comments - do i win a prize?
For reviews of any kind on Linux when talking about iGPUs; always use gamescope -h 720 -f to compare the 780m and newer generations of iGPUs with the previous ones and advertise the proper way to game on Linux with a lower end iGPU vs proper full size GPUs. There are so many people especially doing the resting on Windows where they dont even notice the negative side of DX12 only allowing borderless-window so that FSR2 and XeSS are required to hit any good FPS numbers. Back in da day lads, with CRTs, we had exclusive fullscreen and flat screens had the issue of long resolution-hand-shaking times. My LG C1 is rather quick. I assume modern gaming monitors are fast too. So no need to complain about but many of the past's issues are still a common myth nowadays sadly.
a full amd laptop, i'm always curious cause most linux devices have a rtx or something nvidia related, guess that some nvidia tools for content creators still necessary.. what is your personal experience with your desktop Nick? what are u running there?
The power button IS a fingerprint reader. But the manufacturer provides no Linux drivers. I hate when manufacturers do this. You can make the most advanced widget in the world, but if you crap out on the drivers, it's landfill stuffing. At the very least, just open source your drivers, and let the community clean up your mess for you.
I wonder where they can get with superlight ARM based laptops. Seeing how far they are with the M1 reverse engineering it should be a walk in the park.
Already good arm procs out there, its better to stay x86 for people who do work. I can't use m1 or 2 at my job just for the very reason you can't use most tools on arm/mac yet. Try to run all the kali tools on m1.....
2:15 I don't know what kind of Laptop reviews you did or watched in the last few years, but this doesn't look like minimal. It's more alongside much (at least from the angle of view you showed).
isn't centering the track pad based on where the right arm is for right handed people. for myself if the track pad was centered then it would be extra annoying because i rest my palm there and it just enough off center that its easier to go from typing to moving the mouse cursor with out moving my palm too much and losing my point of reference with the keyboard.
Looks good besides the soldered ram thing. I don't understand why (besides planned obsolescence) companies refuse to add even a single sodimm slot for future upgrades. Annoying, especially from a company like System76 where you'd assume they're more for the user, but apparently not.
I think the two Linux laptop manufacturers whose devices being free from the planned obsolencence are being the LaptopWithLinux and Tuxedo Computers, basically for now.
At 1:32 you stroke the lid which shows quite a bit of lid flex. I feel like you glossed over that bc that's not very good build quality IMO @TheLinuxEXP
It always depends on what you're trying to do with the device. 8GBs of RAM for a laptop for "daily normal use" and on top of that runs Linux instead of Windows... it's gonna be fine. I think of 8GBs today as the lowest standard for people like my mom, or administrative office usage.
The PC case and frame is Magnesium alloy not aluminun according to system 76. Very informatve video thanks.... oh... my PC has 4 GB of Ram and it dont run fine. 😂
Great review! Wanted to get a Slimbook at first but live in America so if I had to RMA shipping would cost. After this review considering system76. Not buying till later this year so have time to think. But I tend to be a Debian user so HW support might be bad. Will try Pop in deciding what brand.
Perhaps a framework laptop would be what you need? They just came out with an AMD version and have a 16 inch on the way. A bonus is that it is 100% user serviceable.
@@antoniomromo That looks really cool. A fully modular laptop is like a dream. I hope it becomes big. Would be nice if that setup allows upgrading mobile GPU's as new ones come out..
@@Jacob6853 The company is actually working on a 16 inch version with a graphics card module. So you would be able to swap them out. Unfortunately it is still in the prototype phase.
@@TheLinuxEXP I did another search! Techrepublic and ghacks tells us that the feature is apparently in beta, because GNOME doesn't fully support biometrics yet in Pop OS, but you can still set it up using fprintd to enroll, and pam-auth-update to set it up for login and password prompts. I can't verify that without a Pangolin though.
Not centered on the chassis itself: equal distance between each edge of the touchpad and each edge of the chassis. It looks better and feels more intuitive
soldered ram is a no to me. yes with 32 gb upgrading might not be neccesary but if something break you cant fix it easily. i am also not that happy with the barrel plug.
Wow, 1299$ for a (albeit upper) mid-range is *steep*! A decent mid-range laptop in my book is 800-900 max. Well the problem remains, Linux laptops are all boutique hardware, and we have to pay a _hefty_ premium for them :-(
Yeah, and even more so for people like me outside of the US; same story with buying Tuxedo/Slimbook laptops outside of the EU. 😔 Would be nice if these companies can provide a 'Barebone' option, so that we could at least source our own storage / RAM / wireless cards locally.
@@relsre I did buy my Tuxedo barebones, and I think you can get em barebones from some of the others too. I just deeply regretted it later (just like my purchase of Tuxedo altogether) when the cable for the keyboard backlight snapped at my first attempt of opening the chassis (no, it's NOT easy to do) and the only way to repair it was to pay up to 300€ (of course they blamed it on me) or use sticky tape.
Wait, this is aluminium ? I remember Wendell reviewing the same model yesterday and saying it's magnesium. Also, Shadow of the Tomb Raider is NOT badly optimised, WTF. Demanding and badly optimised are completely different things!
My first “real” laptop had 2GB of ram, it wasn’t enough to run Windows 7 Starter (which it came with) well after a few Windows updates and the Intel Atom was better suited for Windows XP. It was so slow last time i ran it, that you really have to think before you klicked on anything. I decided to try Linux a few years ago and me and my dad tried to find a distribution that would run on it, but couldn’t find one which would run on 2GB of ram, furthermore the Bios wasn’t accessible. My old HP Pavilion G6 with 4GB of RAM on the other hand, is actually not that bad as long as you don’t push with anything more challenging than Eurotruck Simulator 2 (on minimum settings), Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005 or Burnout Paradise. It can’t run/play video shot with my iPhone 8 or Samsung Galaxy A72, with out “lagging”, but that is the outdated integrated graphics, 3rd gen Intel i5. And USB 2.
There is 2 real problem with these reviews I would like to point you at 1) You are not anonymized. They take extra care for you. My (german) slimbook executive came preinstalled, but the keys were mapped to spanish. Horrible, unprofesional blunder 2) There is no daily use information. No matter which laptop I picked so far, the system was unstable out of the box. As in store stops loading after closing and opening the lid and sometimes the whole system outright crashes, which did not happen on other hardware/windows. I am really looking for a linux laptop, and trying again and again, but no review I looked at so far even adressed the second issue
I like System76 as a company. I bought the Lemur Pro back in November basically because it’s the only laptop they sell without a num pad which I dislike on laptops. It’s good enough although there are plenty of issues.. can’t say I’d 100% but another System76 if buying again but I might.
Just curious, what issues did you have with the Lemur Pro, specifically? Were you able to fix / work around them since, or contact sys76 to see if they can help?
@@relsre okay, when I said issues I didn’t mean software or really hardware wise. Like my biggest issue is getting used to the keyboard layout especially the arrow keys and having the page up and down keys tucked in there. Always hitting the wrong thing. I wish the trackpad was better quality but I’ve been a MacBook user for so long I just expect all other trackpads to be trash. The speakers are really garbage on the Lemur so I had to buy new Bluetooth headphones just to watch RUclips videos. Umm I think that’s about it on my major gripes though.
@@AdamM, I totally understand your frustration with the Page Up/Down keys tucked in there with the arrow keys. Got the same issue with a compact Lenovo USB keyboard. However, I bet it is possible in Linux to reprogram the keys; e.g. so that page up is Fn + Page Up and page down is Fn + Page Down.
It's kind of stupid that System 76 don't have a distribution center in India & China. The two countries account for more than 30% population of the world and have a lot of computer enthusiasts.
my shiny new fujitsu lifebook u9311a has 16GB of solderd (i maybe will upgrade it in the future to 32GB with new ram chips) ram (i ran out of ram twice) and 512 gb of nvme i think it is gen 3 (running arch booted up windows once still in the setup phase to pull the produkt key) and i am pleased with this laptop but if the system76 had touch i would have got that one and would be a little bit smaller
Honestly, I cannot wait for Linux version of framework's new modular 16'' laptop. I think its going to be the game changer in entire laptop segment around the world.
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in lower resolution shadow of the tomb raider performs well
Hey Nick do you fear the unregulated use of Artificial intelligence?
Square space may get put out of business before proper regulations to protect people's livelihoods and identities are put in place.
How does this compare to a thinkpad? Am I better off buying one of those? I live in the USA if that helps.
My computer only has 640K of RAM and it's been running fine!
Hahaha amazing!
Whoa your computer is fast, i only have 16K
@@radiicall My ZX Spectrum has only 48K of RAM and I can play the games on it!
K??? As in kilobytes? My computer only has 32 bytes...
What OS it runs?
Good vid. I've been using a System 76 Pangolin Pang11 for about 6 months and have had zero problems with the daily drive. I had a shipping issue with some storm damage which:
1. A person answered the phone -- huge plus for me.
2. Understood the problem and my replacement was inbound within a day.
3. My only dislike are the speakers. Tinny to my ear. However, I have hearing damage from the Navy, wear hearing aids, so take that with a grain of salt.
I fix that issue with earbuds or over the ear headphones -- so in that mode the sound is perfect (again for my not so good ears).
Keep up the good work as I look forward to each and every installment always delivered with a sense of humor.
L8R
I don't think you should expect speakers from these kinds of ultra thin laptops to be anything better than barely audible lol
Appreciate your writeup, it's reassuring to know that sys76's on-call support and replacement service is _on point!_ 👍
Speaking of, I'd love to hear about Nick's personal experience with Tuxedo/Slimbook's support services, since he's a long-term owner of several of their devices.
It's really nice seeing more and more AMD Linux laptops! Don't know about everyone else, I'm just looking forward for Star Labs's StarFighter
The StarFighter is on the market already. You can buy it.
@@brandon_wallace No it's not, it's just currently open for preorder; they'll start shipping in 4-5 months.
@@altrogeruvah it is mucho $$$.
A pangolin is also a animal. In the Netherlands we call it a gordeldier.
I have the Oryx Pro 17" and it is solid, no flex. I love it. With a 17" screen I will never go back. With support from Sys76 I have been able to fix any problems. Gaming is awesome! I love Linux as a new convert. POP OS is perfect for New users.
Thank you for this review! I've been hoping for a review of a System76 device and I've had an interest in this device specifically with the recent release.
Very thorough review! I do want to point something out about your desire for a linux laptop with a fingerprint reader: I don't know how it is in France, but in the states, where System76 operates, law enforcement can compel you to unlock a device via fingerprint or face, but CANNOT compel you to provide a password. So just in terms of OPSEC, at least in the US, it's far less secure to use biometric devices for unlocking.
It depends on which court jursidiction you're in. They seem to flip flop more than pancakes.
This is the laptop I have been waiting for!!! AMD Ryzen 7 6800U CPU, no dGPU, and a high refresh rate FHD panel!!!
Did you buy it? And if so, what do you think after a few months of usage?
@@agrisimfarming I didn't get it. Got the Legion 7 gen 7 AMD instead.
I've been running a Lemur 9 since 2020 and it has been pretty solid. Pop has even become my favorite distro.
I would have preferred less of the bottom bezel, more RAM options and a dedicated GPU option. Otherwise, it's a solid laptop. I'm looking forward to what System76 provides in the future!
The laptop is listed as an "ultraportable laptop" so I guess integrated graphics is just fine for that purpose. I am on the same page for the rest though.
Watching this from my Pang12! Agreed with the webcam, I actually reached out to support, it's so bad I thought it was broken. Trackpad is a little hit or miss as well. Besides that, great device!
The point of USB-PD is to be able to charge from a power bank, you don’t want to lose a usb-c port because it is always populated for charging.
While I agree that 1080p is a bit small, a 1440p screen will draw more power. Besides, you can kind of ~~cheat~~ compromise and display more on the screen by setting the resolution higher with xrandr 🤟
Arch, btw
Yeah for us in Europe don’t forget import taxes, VAT. That is the major issue. Shipping costs not so much!
Tip: it is a great laptop if you want it to look as generic as possible. The system 76 on to pi a sticker. Just remove it if you want nothing or your own stickers
I had a system 76 laptop back in college in like 2005. I loved that laptop but unfortunately a lot of software I had to use was Windows only.
@@new-lviv nope been around a while.
I wish they would do a 16/10 already… :\
That's my only complain on System76's laptops.
Agreed. I just don't get it at this point. Fine maybe when the OEM they used only supplied bad screens and there weren't options. But how are all these other companies offering 16:10 2k screens and s76 cannot?
Is it really that different compared to 16:9?
@@rolingpingu It doesn’t sound like it but the difference is outstanding. Basically, picture that black chassis bar at the bottom of the display… and turn it into more screen space. You gain A LOT.
@@rolingpingu well, you notice the extra real estate on productivity Apps and, on 2023, the chin feels like wasted space.
7:34
Huh, a new way to get rickrolled lol.
Tip: When comparing laptop CPUs you should also mention the TDP of the CPU/GPU as the same CPU/GPU could run at completely different TDP, practicly capping the performance.
Tip2: would be nice to show 2 different laptops in paralel on some comparisons, for instance web cams and sound quality.
I think it should have 500 GB with 16 Ram in addition the screen ratio with 16:10 or 3:2 would have been better than 144hz panel.
I think for the price that amount of storage should be standard, but at least it's only a $19 upgrade. But I won't complain about the standard 32GB of memory
As someone who has used both 16:9 and 16:10 screens on laptops, I actually prefer 16:9 since content fills the whole screen without black bars.
Word of caution for assuming that Linux distributions other than Ubuntu and Pop!_OS would be supported OOTB. I found on the HP Dev One that Fedora in particular had issues with non-Intel wifi cards.
Yep. I got so frustrated that I just put the AX210 in everything I own. I noticed that Ubuntu 22.10 also had the same issue with the Dev One's wifi. It might have been a driver regression in the kernel itself, but I'm not techy enough to verify that. I encountered the issue once on Pop OS. I restored from the recovery partition and never had the problem since, so I assume System76 noticed this and pushed out their own patch.
The mousepad is always centered on the main keyboard (where the hands are) and that does not include the numeric pad, so it seems misplaced, but is not... (visual TOC 😅)
I'm seeing a trend on laptop keyboards: Either a 60% or a Full-sized... no middle ground.
For me, the optimal is 75% either on Laptops or dektops... but mostly laptops.
I edit on DaVinci Resolve, so the Del key is a must and, I use the SUper+PgUp/PgDwn to switch between workspaces on GNOME or COSMIC so I need these nav keys to be there.
32GB LPDDR5 6800U with 70W*h battery, literally my ideal laptop. Unfortunately, I can't buy it in my country...
I'm very excited about the AMD laptop. I only wish it had 90 watt battery
Framework .... I hope they win. Gonna get their stuff next time around
My laptop only has 500MB of RAM and has been running perfectly fine. (Since I started to boot it about a year ago - any moment the signon prompt will be there ....)
😉 You did tell me to write it in the comments - do i win a prize?
For reviews of any kind on Linux when talking about iGPUs; always use gamescope -h 720 -f to compare the 780m and newer generations of iGPUs with the previous ones and advertise the proper way to game on Linux with a lower end iGPU vs proper full size GPUs. There are so many people especially doing the resting on Windows where they dont even notice the negative side of DX12 only allowing borderless-window so that FSR2 and XeSS are required to hit any good FPS numbers. Back in da day lads, with CRTs, we had exclusive fullscreen and flat screens had the issue of long resolution-hand-shaking times. My LG C1 is rather quick. I assume modern gaming monitors are fast too. So no need to complain about but many of the past's issues are still a common myth nowadays sadly.
As always writing a comment to support the channel
a 3:2 screen would be so good on one of these. 16:9 laptops are a tough sell for me these days.
Man I hate 16:9, they’re not designed for work, they’re designed for watching movies
It doesn't have fingerprint reader, but you can have face recognition if you install howdy.
a full amd laptop, i'm always curious cause most linux devices have a rtx or something nvidia related, guess that some nvidia tools for content creators still necessary..
what is your personal experience with your desktop Nick? what are u running there?
Content creator and nVidia!
Sounds strange!
Nvidia on my laptop and desktop, flawless experience on my side!
The Framework laptop has great linux support and has a fingerprint reader
The power button IS a fingerprint reader. But the manufacturer provides no Linux drivers.
I hate when manufacturers do this. You can make the most advanced widget in the world, but if you crap out on the drivers, it's landfill stuffing. At the very least, just open source your drivers, and let the community clean up your mess for you.
I wonder where they can get with superlight ARM based laptops. Seeing how far they are with the M1 reverse engineering it should be a walk in the park.
Already good arm procs out there, its better to stay x86 for people who do work. I can't use m1 or 2 at my job just for the very reason you can't use most tools on arm/mac yet. Try to run all the kali tools on m1.....
2:15 I don't know what kind of Laptop reviews you did or watched in the last few years, but this doesn't look like minimal. It's more alongside much (at least from the angle of view you showed).
Yes a linux laptop with a numerical keypad!
isn't centering the track pad based on where the right arm is for right handed people. for myself if the track pad was centered then it would be extra annoying because i rest my palm there and it just enough off center that its easier to go from typing to moving the mouse cursor with out moving my palm too much and losing my point of reference with the keyboard.
Thanx for the review. Sounds like a nice laptop.
Looks good besides the soldered ram thing. I don't understand why (besides planned obsolescence) companies refuse to add even a single sodimm slot for future upgrades. Annoying, especially from a company like System76 where you'd assume they're more for the user, but apparently not.
I think the two Linux laptop manufacturers whose devices being free from the planned obsolencence are being the LaptopWithLinux and Tuxedo Computers, basically for now.
@@user-jm6qf9hd9j the new Tuxedo Pulse 14 (similair to the Pangolin) also comes with soldered RAM
The new pangolins now have a better cpu+igpu combo, but are 16 in and the display is 1080 60hz. I'd honestly prefer the one on this videos
I love the subtle rickroll😂
My laptop only has 500GiB of RAM and it's been running perfectly fine.
Btw pangolins (the animal) are pretty cool. Makes me want to get one of these laptops lol
I live in Iowa and I am waiting to buy my own System 76 laptop. Soon, I hope. Nice review. I am trending heavily toward coreboot...
Do you run games on lowa settings?
@@arkvsi8142 not a gamer, retired programmer/analyst.
@@jamessmith4229 you did not get the joke (Lower/Lowa) :'v
At 1:32 you stroke the lid which shows quite a bit of lid flex. I feel like you glossed over that bc that's not very good build quality IMO @TheLinuxEXP
Sounds like you would want the 16 inch Framework laptop so you can be sure to center the touchpad, lol.
I’d love to get my hands on one!
It always depends on what you're trying to do with the device. 8GBs of RAM for a laptop for "daily normal use" and on top of that runs Linux instead of Windows... it's gonna be fine. I think of 8GBs today as the lowest standard for people like my mom, or administrative office usage.
Decoding video actually can be pretty minor compared to regular workloads, like web browsing or office suites.
The PC case and frame is Magnesium alloy not aluminun according to system 76.
Very informatve video thanks.... oh... my PC has 4 GB of Ram and it dont run fine. 😂
I actually had to upgrade my laptop to 16GB recently, 8 is not enough to compile big Rust projects
Yeah, definitely
I only use registers for memory. Doing just fine.
Pass. Touchpad not centered due to presence of numpad, which I don't need.
Great review! Wanted to get a Slimbook at first but live in America so if I had to RMA shipping would cost. After this review considering system76. Not buying till later this year so have time to think. But I tend to be a Debian user so HW support might be bad. Will try Pop in deciding what brand.
Perhaps a framework laptop would be what you need? They just came out with an AMD version and have a 16 inch on the way. A bonus is that it is 100% user serviceable.
Wow thanks @The Linux Experiment!
@@antoniomromo That looks really cool. A fully modular laptop is like a dream. I hope it becomes big. Would be nice if that setup allows upgrading mobile GPU's as new ones come out..
@@Jacob6853 The company is actually working on a 16 inch version with a graphics card module. So you would be able to swap them out. Unfortunately it is still in the prototype phase.
System 76 is a Amazing Metal Gear...
Thanks.
You guys use bytes? My computer runs using a carrier pigeon and it works fine!
Wendell from Level1Techs confirmed there is a fingerprint scanner in the power button, for anybody wondering.
Oh nice! But it doesn’t have any Linux drivers then?
@@TheLinuxEXP I did another search! Techrepublic and ghacks tells us that the feature is apparently in beta, because GNOME doesn't fully support biometrics yet in Pop OS, but you can still set it up using fprintd to enroll, and pam-auth-update to set it up for login and password prompts. I can't verify that without a Pangolin though.
How would you use centered touchpad?
Or do you mean it is not centered well between f and j?
Not centered on the chassis itself: equal distance between each edge of the touchpad and each edge of the chassis. It looks better and feels more intuitive
@@TheLinuxEXP Looks-wise ok. But I think it would be functional nightmare. I need it between my hands not below one of them
Would you guys prefer a system76 or a tuxedo ?
System76 made you wait for the best part :D
soldered ram is a no to me. yes with 32 gb upgrading might not be neccesary but if something break you cant fix it easily.
i am also not that happy with the barrel plug.
OK, here I go: my ThinkPad T61 has 4GB RAM 💪😁
Wow, 1299$ for a (albeit upper) mid-range is *steep*! A decent mid-range laptop in my book is 800-900 max. Well the problem remains, Linux laptops are all boutique hardware, and we have to pay a _hefty_ premium for them :-(
Yeah, and even more so for people like me outside of the US; same story with buying Tuxedo/Slimbook laptops outside of the EU. 😔
Would be nice if these companies can provide a 'Barebone' option, so that we could at least source our own storage / RAM / wireless cards locally.
@@relsre I did buy my Tuxedo barebones, and I think you can get em barebones from some of the others too. I just deeply regretted it later (just like my purchase of Tuxedo altogether) when the cable for the keyboard backlight snapped at my first attempt of opening the chassis (no, it's NOT easy to do) and the only way to repair it was to pay up to 300€ (of course they blamed it on me) or use sticky tape.
I still prefer the tuxedo as a brand. Especially for customers in Europe.
My laptop only has 500 mb of ram and has been running perfectly fine
Looks pretty decent.
No, having a barrel charger is nice - in case you want to run an eGPU from the USB-C TB4 port.
What about display brightness? I think I read it was only 250 nits which seems very dim.
It’s not the brightest, yeah
I love a fingerprint reader on linux mint, weirdly the drivers are installed tho; but got no way of setting it up. Oh well.
Wait, this is aluminium ? I remember Wendell reviewing the same model yesterday and saying it's magnesium.
Also, Shadow of the Tomb Raider is NOT badly optimised, WTF. Demanding and badly optimised are completely different things!
Their website says aluminium alloy, and it definitely feels more sturdy than magnesium
How many external displays can it support?
What clockspeed did the cpu cores and reach and mantained at while doing the benchmarks (including tomb raider).
My first “real” laptop had 2GB of ram, it wasn’t enough to run Windows 7 Starter (which it came with) well after a few Windows updates and the Intel Atom was better suited for Windows XP.
It was so slow last time i ran it, that you really have to think before you klicked on anything.
I decided to try Linux a few years ago and me and my dad tried to find a distribution that would run on it, but couldn’t find one which would run on 2GB of ram, furthermore the Bios wasn’t accessible.
My old HP Pavilion G6 with 4GB of RAM on the other hand, is actually not that bad as long as you don’t push with anything more challenging than Eurotruck Simulator 2 (on minimum settings), Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005 or Burnout Paradise.
It can’t run/play video shot with my iPhone 8 or Samsung Galaxy A72, with out “lagging”, but that is the outdated integrated graphics, 3rd gen Intel i5. And USB 2.
There is 2 real problem with these reviews I would like to point you at
1) You are not anonymized. They take extra care for you. My (german) slimbook executive came preinstalled, but the keys were mapped to spanish. Horrible, unprofesional blunder
2) There is no daily use information. No matter which laptop I picked so far, the system was unstable out of the box. As in store stops loading after closing and opening the lid and sometimes the whole system outright crashes, which did not happen on other hardware/windows.
I am really looking for a linux laptop, and trying again and again, but no review I looked at so far even adressed the second issue
I am waiting for my bonobo ws with 4090 to be delivered from system76!
I have the MeerKat(ubuntu) and the Darter Pro(PopOS) and they are great!
This is the expensive equivalent to Tuxedo I think
Those bezels though…
You should do a review of the framwork laptop if you have not yet.
wait the hinge is actually good on it?
I didn't authorization for this comment, but I am only using 512KB of ram for this post. /s
You can do "Triple A" gaming on a Steam Deck. This is more powerful than a Steam Deck. Just a thought.
Steam deck renders at 720p or 800p. This one is 1080p, 720p on this will look pretty bad
I like System76 as a company. I bought the Lemur Pro back in November basically because it’s the only laptop they sell without a num pad which I dislike on laptops. It’s good enough although there are plenty of issues.. can’t say I’d 100% but another System76 if buying again but I might.
Just curious, what issues did you have with the Lemur Pro, specifically? Were you able to fix / work around them since, or contact sys76 to see if they can help?
@@relsre okay, when I said issues I didn’t mean software or really hardware wise. Like my biggest issue is getting used to the keyboard layout especially the arrow keys and having the page up and down keys tucked in there. Always hitting the wrong thing. I wish the trackpad was better quality but I’ve been a MacBook user for so long I just expect all other trackpads to be trash. The speakers are really garbage on the Lemur so I had to buy new Bluetooth headphones just to watch RUclips videos. Umm I think that’s about it on my major gripes though.
@@AdamM, I totally understand your frustration with the Page Up/Down keys tucked in there with the arrow keys. Got the same issue with a compact Lenovo USB keyboard. However, I bet it is possible in Linux to reprogram the keys; e.g. so that page up is Fn + Page Up and page down is Fn + Page Down.
It's kind of stupid that System 76 don't have a distribution center in India & China. The two countries account for more than 30% population of the world and have a lot of computer enthusiasts.
I thought the Ryzen 7 doesn't have virtualization?
Does this work with Thunderbolt docks? I have a Dell WD19TB.
I would like to see MX Linux installed on this laptop.
R U sure regarding fingerprint scanner and touchpad? I saw another review say otherwise
Well, there was no way for me to configure a fingerprint on it, but I might have missed it
Have you thought about revising Juno laptops?
They never offered again after the first review I did for I’ve of their laptops. It wasn’t a very positive one. and I could tell they were not happy…
@@TheLinuxEXP I"m considering getting one. What do you think?
my shiny new fujitsu lifebook u9311a has 16GB of solderd (i maybe will upgrade it in the future to 32GB with new ram chips) ram (i ran out of ram twice) and 512 gb of nvme i think it is gen 3 (running arch booted up windows once still in the setup phase to pull the produkt key) and i am pleased with this laptop but if the system76 had touch i would have got that one and would be a little bit smaller
Three words:
"What's The Price ?"
People in the comments are so rich
PC good price is high 😮😮
Honestly, I cannot wait for Linux version of framework's new modular 16'' laptop.
I think its going to be the game changer in entire laptop segment around the world.
Dell Latitude D630. 4GB running Mint XFCE
Wasn't it Randy Marsh and a Pangolin that started Covid? I think Mickey Mouse had a hand in it too (or something else)😂🤣
Only US keys without external keyboard!
That sucks, Tuxedo has more choice.
hello
What about the UEFI ? Is it coreboot ?
I run my laptop with 8 GB. And for all I do it's enough. I never hit even 6 GB.