I love how Ragnar is like whatever and Athelstan doesn't get his answer until return to Wessex when Ragnar said "He can do whatever he want, he is a free man" SO LONG
Freedom means so much to the Vikings! I miss George Blagden on the show. He brought reason and respect and compassion. Ragnar is lost without him in Season 4.
No Sam,I wouldn't wanna see him bullied even with a complete lack of skills,as long as he was a trusted member of the group.I guess my last sentence was a bit non sequitur.
Athelstan was such a adorable cupcake , the beginning of " i don't want to leave you... My future is with you. " Ragnar didn't know yet but it was his perfect life..... :( His children , his farm , his soulmate and his wife...
My godness, they were only friends, and Ragnar didn't want to the priest to know too much about viking's culture and gods at this point of the show, they were still knowing each other.
The priest prayed to his own god and got no answer, he even claims to be angry with his god. It seems obvious to me then that he was curious, I can see him thinking: "My god doesn't say anything, but what about their gods say anything? Do they answer back?". This isn't just Athelstan's recognition of gods other than his own, but I can see that's where his fascination with the Norse pantheon begins. Of course, Ragnar rejects him, the Viking doesn't understand why the slave is so curious. "In Ragnar's world" everything comes at a price, I can hear Ragnar's thoughts: "Why would the slave be happy to talk about my gods? What does he get out of it?" And then when Ragnar says "That's yours world now" and later in other episodes the priest really tries to fit more and more into his "new world", at that point he couldn't swim back to England, he would have to resign himself a new life or die, so he tries (at that point, he was still far from wanting to become a martyr).
To be honest he was safer as a slave lol. As a slave he is considered Ragnars property, so to harm him, would be equilvent to stealing or violating ragnars property. It was the moment he became a "free man" that he became a target. If i was him i would of just kept my mouth shut and be like "you know what I got a good thing going on here"
Athelstan: I've watched you. You're about to do something. You've made yourself very strong. Not that I've been watching you work out or anything. But DAMN Look at that body. lol
When Athelstan died, the show was not the same. When Ragnar died, the show was not the same. When Lagertha died, the show kinda not interesting anymore.
@@michaeluilenberg1999 Tbh I found first seasons kinda boring, I saw that a lot of people hate ALfred but he and Ivar were my fav characters in the last seasons
Mentally. You need to be mentally prepared if you want to go against your Earl / King.. Imagine if you can handle the consequences or responsibilities after.. Like playing a Chess in your mind.. And then you will be ready. If you just rush and jump in half halfheartedly then you will lose.
He refers to the fact that ragnar has been preparing himself mentally and piliticlly. He has made a lot of friends who support him more than they support their earl, and he has been preparing himself to the battle to come, so he is in a strong position.
I think Athelstan meant that Ragnar has done little farm work (he has slave now to do that), has eaten up lots so he stores strength in his body, and has been meditating in the mountains nearby, quietly planning, getting mentally ready. I don't think Athelstan was privy to all the meetings Ragnar was having collecting allies, but he probably suspected that something along those lines was happening. That's what Athelstan meant when he said that.
coalikesdesi it does not, Briton at that time had slavery and enslaved each other. It was only after the Norman conquest and the bridging together of the doctrines of the Catholic church and Celtic Christianity that slavery was outlawed in Britain. So for all of the hate englishmen have of the French, they can thank them for their stance of slavery.
@Kristoff Bjorgman who is the 'pagan ancestor' in this comparison? when the Saxons settled in Britain from the 5th century onwards, they weren't Christians yet. Irish monks and some missionaries were sent to Britain. claiming one side 'treated their slaves better' as the other is a bit of wishful thinking.
Not really. Ancient Jewish slavery was basically their version of the welfare state today. When a man couldn`t was deeply in debt or had other such problems he and his family could for a time sell themselves in servitude to a master. The master however had to threat his "slaves" with respect and release them after a certain period of time. In fact this type of slavery was enjoyed by a lot of people back in the day and there were even stories in Ancient Judea when the master would have to release his slaves by force coz they didn`t want to leave. This is very different from treating your slaves as dogs.
Athelstan was a Christian and during those times Christianity outlawed slavery. Serfdom was fine--binding yourself as a peasant to your lord's land--but not slavery. That's why Athelstan had so many questions and concerns, and wanted to be a free man, in case Ragnar decided to kill him in a rage.
it looks like athelstan was a lil scared it was goin to be a prison thing lol he talkes a bout slavery like he didnt know all slave where treated like shit
@@ozi9888 Depends I suppose! Ragnar offered a sexual relationship to Athelstan a couple of times but we never see if it actually happened. So from Ragnar’s side we know it was sexual too but up in the air about Athelstan
@@JustinCase-ws5ky Pretty sure the first time was in maybe the second episode? He and Lagertha are having sex and they run over to Athelstan’s pallet and Ragnar asks Athelstan to join them. It happens for a second time in a later season, I don’t remember which but it’s after Athelstan returns from when he was crucified. They’re standing at the doorway of the main hall and as Ragnar looks at Athelstan’s palm scars he asks again.
the whole dialogue around 'am I still your slave?' or 1:37 'but I would like to be a free man' is quite lame. who wouldn't prefer to be free instead of a slave. Aethelstan doesn't seem to have a compelling argument on his side. the question is: can Ragnar afford to set him free? if yes, why would he do it? and what is the procedure?
Ragnar is different. I think Athelstan somehow knew that once he met Ragnar since he was supposed to be executed by Rollo but saved by Ragnar to make him his slave.
I love how Ragnar is like whatever and Athelstan doesn't get his answer until return to Wessex when Ragnar said "He can do whatever he want, he is a free man" SO LONG
'He never needed us. We needed him' Ragnar truly understood Athelstan and his place in their story by the time he was killed.
shows not the same without Athelstan :(
It's not the same without Ragnar
It's not the same without Ragnar, Athelstan, or siggy
who cares about Siggy anymore
HA!
@@AmenraRobinson (I really should stop watching videos of vikings when I'm still in 3 season)
Freedom means so much to the Vikings! I miss George Blagden on the show. He brought reason and respect and compassion. Ragnar is lost without him in Season 4.
The priest is one of my favorites on the show.I wish Floki would quit pickin on him.He's valuable for his litteracy and language.
You want him to quit being picked on for his literacy and language skills? Is having skills really the reason why bullying should be frowned upon?
No Sam,I wouldn't wanna see him bullied even with a complete lack of skills,as long as he was a trusted member of the group.I guess my last sentence was a bit non sequitur.
the reason floki picks on him is because floki is actually loki and he hates christians
zorak65 well you dont gotta worry anymore about floki bullying athelstan
+DN- Well,not since he murdered him.He must answer to Ragnar before Ragnar dies.
Athelstan was such a adorable cupcake , the beginning of " i don't want to leave you... My future is with you. " Ragnar didn't know yet but it was his perfect life..... :( His children , his farm , his soulmate and his wife...
This Story show us how a Person can pass from the status of a dog to a true status of fidelity. A mutual recognition.
Aw Ragnar, that's no way to treat your husband
I think Ragnar can't afford to be weak, can't get all sensitive before a battle and let's face it Athlestan is his weakness, that's why he shuts down
My godness, they were only friends, and Ragnar didn't want to the priest to know too much about viking's culture and gods at this point of the show, they were still knowing each other.
@@grazielaalmeida8438 (psst, it's a joke!)
The way Ragnar raises his tone hints that he is upset
*It's so funny when Ragnar gets touchy and impatient lol*
The priest prayed to his own god and got no answer, he even claims to be angry with his god.
It seems obvious to me then that he was curious, I can see him thinking: "My god doesn't say anything, but what about their gods say anything? Do they answer back?".
This isn't just Athelstan's recognition of gods other than his own, but I can see that's where his fascination with the Norse pantheon begins.
Of course, Ragnar rejects him, the Viking doesn't understand why the slave is so curious. "In Ragnar's world" everything comes at a price, I can hear Ragnar's thoughts: "Why would the slave be happy to talk about my gods? What does he get out of it?"
And then when Ragnar says "That's yours world now" and later in other episodes the priest really tries to fit more and more into his "new world", at that point he couldn't swim back to England, he would have to resign himself a new life or die, so he tries (at that point, he was still far from wanting to become a martyr).
This scene conveyed Ragnars inner conflict about his belief...brought on from his love for Athelstan of course.
AH! George Blagen is awesome! I love Athelestan!
I think George is so beautiful...
I want to watch this but it's difficult to watch this in Japan...
To be honest he was safer as a slave lol. As a slave he is considered Ragnars property, so to harm him, would be equilvent to stealing or violating ragnars property.
It was the moment he became a "free man" that he became a target. If i was him i would of just kept my mouth shut and be like "you know what I got a good thing going on here"
Athelstan: I've watched you. You're about to do something. You've made yourself very strong.
Not that I've been watching you work out or anything.
But DAMN
Look at that body.
lol
no homo
@@GioTMIP 😂
Gay
2:03 is like literally every gay fanfic complimenting another dude's workout
Man, they were good back then
Yeah, tell me about it.
Ragnar could never imagine the son of this slave would become the king of Wessex who will defeat Ivar the boneless.
Thanks for the spoiler.
Not defeat Ivar the boneless but the Vikings themselves.
When Athelstan died, the show was not the same.
When Ragnar died, the show was not the same.
When Lagertha died, the show kinda not interesting anymore.
What about bjorn?
@@michaeluilenberg1999 i'm not finished on s6 b yet but I would say it's starting to disapoint me
@@borresarnoldjake116 oops sorry for ruining it for ya then bud lol
@@michaeluilenberg1999 Tbh I found first seasons kinda boring, I saw that a lot of people hate ALfred but he and Ivar were my fav characters in the last seasons
I’m still in s3 but wtf they all die in the end :/
Ragnars wants you with him, Athelstan.
I ask this to life all the time
Athelstan 😍and Ragnar better couple show tv
What did Athelstan mean by "You've made yourself very strong"? Like...Did Ragnar do push-ups? Did they show Ragnar making himself strong in the show?
Mentally. You need to be mentally prepared if you want to go against your Earl / King.. Imagine if you can handle the consequences or responsibilities after.. Like playing a Chess in your mind.. And then you will be ready. If you just rush and jump in half halfheartedly then you will lose.
meis awsom yes, he did much hiking and cliff climbing.
He refers to the fact that ragnar has been preparing himself mentally and piliticlly. He has made a lot of friends who support him more than they support their earl, and he has been preparing himself to the battle to come, so he is in a strong position.
I think Athelstan meant that Ragnar has done little farm work (he has slave now to do that), has eaten up lots so he stores strength in his body, and has been meditating in the mountains nearby, quietly planning, getting mentally ready. I don't think Athelstan was privy to all the meetings Ragnar was having collecting allies, but he probably suspected that something along those lines was happening. That's what Athelstan meant when he said that.
Is it odd that all i care about in this scene is that delicious piece of dry meat ragnar's eating?
Nail tool of amusement yes lol
It's dry fish ahahah
It looks disgusting.
doesnt make sense, the anglo-saxons had slavery too, the scene doesn't make sense, for somebody as learned as Athelstan.
coalikesdesi it does not, Briton at that time had slavery and enslaved each other. It was only after the Norman conquest and the bridging together of the doctrines of the Catholic church and Celtic Christianity that slavery was outlawed in Britain.
So for all of the hate englishmen have of the French, they can thank them for their stance of slavery.
But Athelstan was a Priest not a slave before.
@Kristoff Bjorgman who is the 'pagan ancestor' in this comparison? when the Saxons settled in Britain from the 5th century onwards, they weren't Christians yet. Irish monks and some missionaries were sent to Britain. claiming one side 'treated their slaves better' as the other is a bit of wishful thinking.
Why is Aethelstan surprised by the treatment of slaves versus freefolk ??? The same treatment is regulated and condoned in the Bible????
Not really. Ancient Jewish slavery was basically their version of the welfare state today. When a man couldn`t was deeply in debt or had other such problems he and his family could for a time sell themselves in servitude to a master. The master however had to threat his "slaves" with respect and release them after a certain period of time.
In fact this type of slavery was enjoyed by a lot of people back in the day and there were even stories in Ancient Judea when the master would have to release his slaves by force coz they didn`t want to leave. This is very different from treating your slaves as dogs.
Congratulations.you have just won most full of shit idiot on the internet today.
Athelstan was a Christian and during those times Christianity outlawed slavery. Serfdom was fine--binding yourself as a peasant to your lord's land--but not slavery. That's why Athelstan had so many questions and concerns, and wanted to be a free man, in case Ragnar decided to kill him in a rage.
it looks like athelstan was a lil scared it was goin to be a prison thing lol he talkes a bout slavery like he didnt know all slave where treated like shit
Not so.slaves were too expensive to mistreat or neglect.most had better lives than poor free people
What happen between this two? I don't understand it. They have a strange relation.
It seems that they had some kind of bromance. Romance for each other but not sexual (?)
Or was there a sexual connection too?
@@ozi9888 Depends I suppose! Ragnar offered a sexual relationship to Athelstan a couple of times but we never see if it actually happened. So from Ragnar’s side we know it was sexual too but up in the air about Athelstan
@@findme7585 when did ragnar offer a sexual?
@@JustinCase-ws5ky Pretty sure the first time was in maybe the second episode? He and Lagertha are having sex and they run over to Athelstan’s pallet and Ragnar asks Athelstan to join them. It happens for a second time in a later season, I don’t remember which but it’s after Athelstan returns from when he was crucified. They’re standing at the doorway of the main hall and as Ragnar looks at Athelstan’s palm scars he asks again.
@@findme7585 do you know what episode for the palm thing
Blood Eagle for his for the man who wanted to kill his family, and spread Eagle for his beloved Athelstan. ;)
haha, I thought thesame when I first watched it
just bone guys
the whole dialogue around 'am I still your slave?' or 1:37 'but I would like to be a free man' is quite lame. who wouldn't prefer to be free instead of a slave. Aethelstan doesn't seem to have a compelling argument on his side. the question is: can Ragnar afford to set him free? if yes, why would he do it? and what is the procedure?
Ragnar is different. I think Athelstan somehow knew that once he met Ragnar since he was supposed to be executed by Rollo but saved by Ragnar to make him his slave.
What season and episode do the meet if anyone knows??
Episode 2 I think. Ragnar raids a monastery and takes him as a slave but further into the series they change.
What episode was this???
Me at season 1, already knowin that he Is going ti die
LMAO!
this ddnt age well
floki is the best
i agree
Athelstan die?
yes
floki killed him
Why ragnar pissed off? Because he had doubts
Wasn't Jarl Borg from another country and most likely called as such because they respected his title and where he came from?
Probably that. Athelstan is making him think unlike any of his viking compatriots.
What is Ragnar eating? Wood?
Jerky probably.