@@AlikiKatriou ;) thank you for your lessons, I have done them daily and i have been able to get so low in less than 2 weeks. Just the high end fry scream i still have to work on.
I never realized that I have basically been using a low vocal fry for years to scary my boyfriend into thinking the girl from The Grudge was in the house.
From the first time I saw you spoke on the singing revealed live chat, I know you're an intelligent person from your interesting way of speaking and expression (and gesture lol). You know things and can explain in a very good way. The world needs more vocal coach like you! Love from Hong Kong!
Going through multiple of Akili's tutorials, I noticed that her movements & facial expression changes are frequent, expressive, and elegantly to the point, but also have this delightfully neurotic jerkiness to them. It gives me the feeling that even if Akili doesn't have this godly control of voice, she is a sight to watch live just for her stage presence alone.
I’ve been watching videos for months and you’re the first to not even need to ask me to subscribe. The detail in your explanations is beyond helpful and the way you teach is perfect for me
i swear so many people release videos about this and still leave me with so many questions. Everything you said was completely clear for me and now i know i'm actually doin pretty ok in my progress :)
@@aneeshroghaan9118 that's the issue... for now, think of "breathy" as being the opposite of vocal fry. Don't let yourself get breathy at all - that might mean you don't go as low :)
Literally hours of other tutorials on youtube < a few minutes of Aliki absolutely incredible, i feel like in some months or a year these will have tens of millions of views
I literally watched all of the RUclips in search of screaming technics and you are the only one that explains it from the very beginning. Very detailed and easy to understand. Also, it's a simple pleasure to watch your tutorials - you're so joyfull and full of energy! Keep it up, great work!
I absolutely ADORE your tutorial videos. I have been a guitar player in metal for years, yet I sing and could never scream. This has legit made that a possibility for me and helped me realize it is not impossible. Super stoked over here!
That's very common, especially for fry... :) I think if you understand the anatomy and increase your awareness of how it works it can help to stabilize it further :)
That's a very interesting and useful tutorial, thank you. In my case I couldn't find the fry at first because I wasn't relaxed enough. So one of the tips may be to relax, maybe even try it lying in bed, that worked for me ;)
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! i really needed the tip on how to not sound breathy, i've been asthmatic all my life so my breath control is horrible but i'm slowly getting there! THIS IS PERFECT, short sweet and informative
Hi Aliki! I love your classes. You are the best! I can make vocal fry (low and high notes) but it is difficult to add power or volume (make a good sound) The same happens with false chords. I can make the tibetan throat singing just for a while (it comes and goes haha) or when I try to use both effects at the same time. Another thing that happens to me, is that I get tired of "retaining" air 🤔 because as you say it is 1/3 air use. I'll be waiting for your next video. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
I hear you! Just off the top of my head, some small tips for you: 1) don't try to add power or volume to your fry (it doesn't work the way normal phonation and volume works so you'll just be wasting time; wait for my video on this topic), 2) don't retain air; get rid of the air and then vocalise - so exhale, then fry. You want to build the skill of singing on little air, not holding back air and definitely not "filling up" with air, contrary to some beliefs.
Hella loving your tuts!!!! i have years and years of doing weird noices but kinda seriously wana learn to use my voice properly, so im finding your content really enlightening XD
Yes, that is a good starting point. That being said, if your brain has forgotten how to make the "Samara noise", it doesn't matter :) It's just a matter of exploring and experimenting with your voice until you find it again.
@@AlikiKatriou Thank you! Well, the hardest part is to move the fry from the chest to the head voice, but obviously that's the next step you were talking about in the video :P, so we just need to wait :)
OMG, 4:20 makes me want to hide under the bed (which I can't, because that's where my chaos is hiding.) I've never heard something so much like a Grausedrude / Harpy without even a touch of special effects, it's bloody amazing. The whole video is interesting and clear instructions and fun to watch ... oh, and honestly: It's so nice to see a female youtuber who skips make-up and goes straight for info and instructions. (I know it's everybody's personal decision, but sometimes it feels like 20 minutes make-up are a must for youtubers with ovaries, and it's discouraging.)
Yeah, I really would love to see more women without make up... Very often I'll just vanish from social media entirely because I'm fatigued by seeing everyone trying so hard >
Woot, nice little breakdown of the 4 registers, sure makes things seem a lot simpler than I've known it as (would love to see some tips on getting whistle down the line too btw lol). Keen for more on fry, it's definitely a weakness for me compared to false cord. Is it weird that I can keep that basic fry but make it higher without it breaking into that screamy noise you did? Am I actually changing the pitch or just getting the illusion from my mouth shape maybe lol hmm. I can get the start of the screamy noise tho, but I do find it harder depending on what I've been doing on a given day, and often don't like my tone. Also heaps keen to hear about how to get volume on this sound, I think I'm louder than I realise but I wanna make sure I'm doing things right! I've gotten to a happy place with my false cord and a lot of the sounds I can make with that, but some things are rather tricky in it, so I'd love to get the hang of fry to expand my vocal toolkit! Will be waiting eagerly for the next installment :D *One problem with this video tho* - the sound was reeeally quiet, had to turn my speakers up to max which is always mildly terrifying lol. Noticed the sound on the last video was a bit weird too but yeah this one was super soft. Are you able to turn it up a bit for the next one? I was very nervous my computer might blast me with some notification bleeping in the middle of trying to watch you hahahaha, I like loud noises but usually in a metal context not my computer trying to give me a heart attack context lol XD
Yeah, I gave up on the sound for some videos because it plays very differently on different devices and with different headphones so myeh... that being said, it's also probably stemming from personal bias too; I'm constantly turning the volume down on everything XD It's normal to be able to keep the basic fry sound and take it much higher without changing the tone. Whether it's healthy or recommended is another matter altogether and I wouldn't be able to guess outside a lesson context; I've often spent an entire 60min lesson on this issue with some students.
Oh wow! O_O; Thankfully I'm not stuck with the problem then! XD Lol I still wanna get lessons one day but the Aussie exchange rate is so bad rn on top of the time difference 😭 one day! Well I hope you don't turn down the sound any lower haha ^_^; I've run out of things I can turn up to be able to hear it lol. Would have to start ripping the videos to put into software to boost it, then remove the noise floor and hope you still sound the same haha. 😬
I was always able to get that sound, but when i try to do it on higher notes(basically on any note) i sing an octave lower. Do you have any idea how to sound raspy but without going an Octave lower?
It depends on why you're going an octave lower... As in, are your true vocal folds dropping the pitch lower or is the fry creating a subharmonic that's an octave lower. If it's your vocal folds, try going in and out of the distortion. So start clean, then fry, then clean and don't spend too much time in fry. If it's the fry creating the subharmonic you'll need to do the fry in an even more relaxed way. Try a looser clean to start with or even making it feel a little bit breathy.
Hi, by breathy I mean a small amount of air audibly leaking past the vocal folds. (and of course, I can't think of a good example at the moment >.< Think first verse of a ballad, like Beast In Black - Ghost In The Rain)
Such an amazing video!🙌 Really helps me understand what to do except for the little cracking of your voice when you get low, it's just not there for me. 😪
If you're going low and nothing is happening you might not be low enough in your range. If you go low and it's getting breathy and then fading out, you'll need to move down without getting breathy at all in order to locate fry. If you go low and the sound just stops without getting breathy or tight or anything, then you might need to stay on the low notes and try sliding down in slow motion to promote further relaxation of the vocal folds :)
Hey! Thanks for the tutorial! I’m able to Fry scream in the mornings when I’m just waking up and on the way to work I crush my fry screams. It was easy to find that “sweet spot” but after work or when I’m more awake, I feel like it’s really tough for me to do a good vocal fry and hit that sweet spot consistently. I’m I crazy or is there something to this? Any info or tips are appreciated! Thanks!
This is 100% normal. In the mornings your breathflow is less, your breathing is really lazy from sleeping and your body is under energized and not really putting in much effort. Fry loves all these things! I usually recommend people practise fry first thing in the morning and that they avoid normal vocal warm ups if they want fry... Tip: record yourself counting to 5 in your speaking voice in the morning and guess what volume you're doing that at (pick a number from 1-10). Then do the same thing after work and see how that number differs. If it's higher, try moving your volume down to where it was in the morning and then attempting your fry work :)
@@AlikiKatriou THANK YOU! Glad I’m not crazy! Well... I am but anyone who is a content creator and metal vocalist has to be nuts, right? Ha! Going to try the counting exercise too! Awesome tip and great clarification! I really appreciate it Aliki!🤘
It depends on the disorder and how we do vocal fry. Vocal fry will be most useful for disorders that involve pressing the vocal folds together too harshly, or breath & pressure issues. We'd be looking for very light use of fry in these instances in order to experience good vocal fold closure without effort or much pressure. If we're looking at more organic disorders (cysts, polyps etc), rather then dysfunctional behaviours, fry might not be the best strategy. If done lightly, it won't do harm, but it might not be the most useful option.
Me sings extremely low bass* keeps going lower* discovers he can sing lower than what was known before. No vocal fry but I somehow increased my low end range even more :)
I finally managed to feel my vocal fry not in my throat, but like if it was coming from behind, like from my chest or my ears, I dont even know. I definetly feel my lungs working hard, but it feels soo much confortable, doesnt hurt or anything. And it sounds even lower and with more power. So I think I finally got it right... Right? D:
Possibly. Sensations in singing actually give us little information because it's so dependent on the shape and size of your vocal tract in combination with your skull, so it's a bit of a personal experience thing only. This is part of the reason why I don't really talk too much about sensation. Sounds like it could be right, I would challenge you to feel no work from your lungs at all, so make it even more comfortable & lazy...
Do you mean my speaking voice or my fry. I practised singing to the bottom of my range trying 3 different degrees of compression: breathy, normal and fry. I then worked on the fry very very slowly to get it lower and lower.
I'm not really sure,but I think that a may have a gap in my vocal chords,I can't do this fry sound,well just a liiiiittle bit and then.. nothing,I don't know if I'm doing something wrong,if I'm not in total control of my breath,but I can't do this,and when I do,starts to hurt a little
There are so many things that could be happening... one option is that you could be in a tighter coordination of fry, another option is that your false vocal folds could be approximating or even vibrating slightly. Try sliding downwards into the sound from a clean, speaking pitch...
Have you tried "reverse engineering" the issue? Rather than trying to get less air in your fry, simply inhale normally, then exhale most of your air and make your fry sound. Don't do this while driving, it might make you light headed. But we're basically exploring how much air you might need to get "rid of" before the vocal folds make closer contact easily because they aren't resisting all that air/being blown apart. All that being said, there's nothing "wrong" with breathy fry. You can unlock some really cool sounds from a breathy fry. It's just nice to be able to do either/or :)
Hey, you make really great and useful content, thank you. I'd like to ask you if there are any possible ways to do fry and false cord screams quiet but at the same momet save the efficiency of practicing. I haven't began to try to do vocals yet, so I'm thinking of how not to disturb my family and neighbors and I also just don't like loud noises in inappropriate situations.
I hear you and I feel the pain of volume too >.< It's much easier to practise vocal fry quietly without annoying anyone. False cord tends to be a bit loud because you've got 2 sets of vocal folds vibrating, so there's quite a bit of noise going on... Do you sing clean?
@@AlikiKatriou no, I have never done any type of vocals before but I used to play saxophone, so I know how to use the diafragm, it gotta help me with the false cord screaming, I hope.
@@philtejeda3110 if you haven't done cleans my advice is start using your voice, especially your falsetto (think light & feminine-sounding). Your goal is less air, less less less, waaaayy less than you'd need for saxophone :D
@@AlikiKatriou I accidently did a fry scream while practicing the fry but now I forgot how I've done that. I hope I'll figure out how I did that but I'm really excited because it was my first time ever practicing vocals! Thank you very much, your videos and your answers keep me interested and kinda inspired in learning vocals. Also, I checked Desolate Plains and found the music sounding very interesting and enjoyable to me. I hope you're having a good time during the quarantine:)
@@philtejeda3110 Wooohooo!! Fantastic! Keep doing what you're doing - vocal fry is a bit hit and miss in the beginning so be patient with yourself :D Thank you for checking out the music ^.^
I can't seem to find my vocal fry, im a beginner in vocals and generally singing so whenever i try to go lower i either end up with a whistle or throat bass
I used to be able to do vocal fry until i found a youtube video of subharmonic register and start practicing it. And now i forgot how to do vocal fry. And when i am trying to do vocal fry, i ended up doing subharmonic.
My working hypothesis is that subharmonic stuff is using the thyroarytenoid muscle during fry. So, in your case, instead of starting in your normal chest voice play around with a) dropping from falsetto into light chest voice into light fry, b) starting with a light, slightly breathy chest voice and going into fry.
When we vocal fry, the false vocal folds do not need to engage. That being said, some people do engage their false folds whilst frying and some singers who "fry scream" are in a combo/hybrid distortion of fry + false folds.
Loads of people find fry annoying. I don't know... I think it's normal to like or dislike things randomly. It depends on what the brain has connected it to, probably.
There are various ways. You might have vocal fry when speaking if you're speaking at a pitch that is too low, so the first thing I would explore would be speaking pitch. From then on, you'll need to increase the volume of your voice, possible increase airflow too. You can also do explorations with the airflow but those are slightly more complex to type up... I would start with pitch & volume first.
I am kind of curious to know about your thoughts of young people that utilizes vocal fry on casual conversations? Particularly young people(male/females).
Vocal fry is an interesting one because it can be very good for you and is used by voice therapists to help a number of vocal issues. That being said, everything depends on how it's done... Regarding people speaking with a lot of vocal fry , I think it is good to minimise the amount of vocal fry one uses in speech. Two reasons: 1) it is very difficult to know, at a low range, how much tension lies within vocal fry and it's even harder to tell at the speed of speech, so it's safer to avoid it and 2) people often have a negative emotional response to vocal fry and this can impact the individual speaking so, again, safer to avoid for social reasons.
does fry come from true vocal cords or false? or it's always a mix between them? does it depend on the pitch of fry? when I'm playing with fry I notice that lowest fry is... Well, lower, physically. whilst higher fry (say, you're coming into fry from falsetto), is a lot higher, and physically feels like somewhere in soft palate. are they both safe for frequent usage? are they fundamentally different? is there any lesson on anatomical aspects of fry and other distortion types? thanks
Hi! Vocal fry always happens with your true vocal folds. It has nothing to do with your false vocal folds. We are physiologically able to activate the true vocal folds in fry and activate the false vocal folds at the same time for a combo fry + false fold distortion. What you feel during singing of any kind are sympathetic vibrations and they can be different for every person as they are based on the shape & size of your vocal tract and the shape & size of your skull. As long as you aren't using air to get the sound and you aren't squeezing/pushing to create the vocal fry, whatever you're doing is safe for frequent usage. As long as fry isn't your exclusive usage and you're still speaking "normally" and are able to sing in falsetto, that's good. Your low & high fry are not really anatomically different as far as I know. At the moment, I don't have a video purely on anatomical aspects of distortions...
@@AlikiKatriou here's probably best examples I could find, maybe you find it useful too: ruclips.net/video/P3xOHJJzQN8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/T3jRE2SPv-w/видео.html You're still doing paid lessons online, right?
No. We love inhales. Nothing wrong with inhales. If inhales are working well for you, start to notice them and pay special attention to the amount of air you're inhaling and then compare that to the amount you exhale.
I feel like i have replaced my vocal fry with subharmonics. Everytime i slide down there is a small point where its fry but a bit lower its turning into subharmonics. And i normally cant switch to fry its just already turning into subs
Ah, this is interesting. Getting out of subharmonics might need a bit more air moving through the system but I wouldn't put my hand in fire on that one...
Honestly, aim for G6 and above - not lower - and try them on an inhale. You'll have to inhale the least amount of air physically possible in order to get the tone :)
I dont get breathy or anything and i sound good at first but when i try to actually add the scream like effect it doesnt really work if that makes any sense at all and idk why
Oooo good ears... I'm not. My mother is from New Zealand, so that's what you're picking up on. The weird quirks are because I went to a Greek-American high school at 15 and they couldn't understand my accent so I had to mess up some vowels & consonants here and there XD
🤔 I ended up here but actually not sure if fry is the technique I want to learn, I was interested about distorted voices between singing and screaming (like tool, linkin park, stoned jesus) for a stoner rock style and I heard that kind of voice is achieved mixing fry scream with regular singing but this seems to be completely different. Yet interesting.
I am probably one of the few people on the internet who would argue that the bands you mentioned seldom use fry. Linkin Park used to use fry sometimes live but not really on the recordings. At some point, I need to make a tutorial about those kind of sounds...
@@AlikiKatriou Thank you for your answer, I agree with you, I don´t think the fry technique is the right way to achieve that effect. A tutorial about that would be awesome!
I have what people would say is a deep voice, at least for my country. Really struggling to find the fry. I'll give your method a try later (I can't make much noise right now) and hopefully I'll finally be able to find it. Almost feels like my throat is coated to prevent it from happening - it's low but quite broken some higher sounds pop in and out sometimes too. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, just can't seem to get that stable croakiness in demo videos. Any other tips or tricks for someone who is still struggling to find it? Are some people just unable to fry?
@@AlikiKatriou well, that is good news! When speaking you could say I do have a deep, loud, sometimes booming voice, was pointed out to me a lot in my younger days. So, I've generally tried to keep the volume down as I've gotten older...except when I laugh, then everyone hears it 😂 Could mucus / nasal drip also play a part in it?
@@dkryptonut Nasal drip is always annoying and it can make your life harder but it won't prevent you from being able to fry :) I'd guess volume is the struggle...
Hey great video. I have a question about a certain bands vocal style, and was wondering if it was vocal fry? I'll respond to this comment with the song if you can help
@@rob1996ization ah, I guessed this might be the case. Can you tell me what to search online because, for whatever reason, RUclips is just not letting me see or access the link >
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I literally just burped at your lowest fry pitch lol. Perfect harmony
It's nice to have a singing buddy XD
@@AlikiKatriou ;) thank you for your lessons, I have done them daily and i have been able to get so low in less than 2 weeks. Just the high end fry scream i still have to work on.
@@kojik4271 oh cool ^^ the next set on fry will be focused on highs ^^
@@AlikiKatriou yayyy, you're a saint!
I never realized that I have basically been using a low vocal fry for years to scary my boyfriend into thinking the girl from The Grudge was in the house.
Fantastic ^^ It's a good life XD
Lmao
i guess I am quite off topic but do anyone know of a good place to watch newly released movies online ?
@Ryder Ismael I watch on FlixZone. You can find it on google :)
@Ryder Ismael lately I have been using Flixzone. Just search on google for it :)
Most helpful tutorial for vocal fry I’ve found on RUclips BY FAR and I’ve probably watched them all
Thank you very much ^^
This comment should be voted up by everyone. So true.
Been there, done that, LOVE this one
You’re right earle
Did u watch Beatbox Vocal fry tutorials?
Please, make more videos. You are of the few people in youtube that know what they are talking about and know how to communicate it.
thank you ^^
Couldn't agree more!!!
@@to_boldly_roll ^^
From the first time I saw you spoke on the singing revealed live chat, I know you're an intelligent person from your interesting way of speaking and expression (and gesture lol). You know things and can explain in a very good way. The world needs more vocal coach like you! Love from Hong Kong!
Awww, thank you!!! :D
4:23 me stepping on a LEGO at night when everyone is sleeping :D
Going through multiple of Akili's tutorials, I noticed that her movements & facial expression changes are frequent, expressive, and elegantly to the point, but also have this delightfully neurotic jerkiness to them. It gives me the feeling that even if Akili doesn't have this godly control of voice, she is a sight to watch live just for her stage presence alone.
Wow really good explanation. Whenever I try to explain screaming in my own tutorials I'm not as clear as you are 🖤
^^ thank you!
wow dude, you're actually everywhere
I’ve been watching videos for months and you’re the first to not even need to ask me to subscribe. The detail in your explanations is beyond helpful and the way you teach is perfect for me
awww thank you ^^
You are incredible visually and sonic
^^
i swear so many people release videos about this and still leave me with so many questions. Everything you said was completely clear for me and now i know i'm actually doin pretty ok in my progress :)
Yaaay :D Yeah, I struggled a lot to understand what I had to do in order to get distortions of any kind going xD
Unique intro "Hello! Human Beings" never heard anyone say that.
Thank you for the tutorial, but I didn't find my vocal fry ; (
Are you getting breathy as you descend in pitch maybe?
@@AlikiKatriou yes it's gettin breathy like only air comes out 🙄!
@@aneeshroghaan9118 that's the issue... for now, think of "breathy" as being the opposite of vocal fry. Don't let yourself get breathy at all - that might mean you don't go as low :)
@@AlikiKatriou thank you so much
Have a wonderful rest of the day!
@@aneeshroghaan9118 hope it helps ^^
Anne Hathaway really out here giving good singing advice
Literally hours of other tutorials on youtube < a few minutes of Aliki
absolutely incredible, i feel like in some months or a year these will have tens of millions of views
XD
This along with softly yodeling down in pitch helps me as well
I literally watched all of the RUclips in search of screaming technics and you are the only one that explains it from the very beginning. Very detailed and easy to understand.
Also, it's a simple pleasure to watch your tutorials - you're so joyfull and full of energy! Keep it up, great work!
Truth spoken. 🤘🖤
Thank you ^^ I notice that many people skip steps for beginners...
Love at first encounter. U are The best at this
you're amazing and this is been so very helpful!
yaaay ^^
I absolutely ADORE your tutorial videos. I have been a guitar player in metal for years, yet I sing and could never scream. This has legit made that a possibility for me and helped me realize it is not impossible. Super stoked over here!
Aww cool :D That's awesome ^.^
How I envy youuuuu!! I sing screaming but sometimes is very easy and sometimes like I forget how to do it.... I'll try your method!
That's very common, especially for fry... :) I think if you understand the anatomy and increase your awareness of how it works it can help to stabilize it further :)
That's a very interesting and useful tutorial, thank you. In my case I couldn't find the fry at first because I wasn't relaxed enough. So one of the tips may be to relax, maybe even try it lying in bed, that worked for me ;)
Oh yes, I often tell my students to try fry lying in bed XD
what a great intro to vocal fry. thanks!!
Thank you ^^
you're fantastic
thanks for the tutorials!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! i really needed the tip on how to not sound breathy, i've been asthmatic all my life so my breath control is horrible but i'm slowly getting there! THIS IS PERFECT, short sweet and informative
Yay, thank you!
Hi Aliki! I love your classes. You are the best! I can make vocal fry (low and high notes) but it is difficult to add power or volume (make a good sound) The same happens with false chords. I can make the tibetan throat singing just for a while (it comes and goes haha) or when I try to use both effects at the same time. Another thing that happens to me, is that I get tired of "retaining" air 🤔 because as you say it is 1/3 air use. I'll be waiting for your next video. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
I hear you! Just off the top of my head, some small tips for you: 1) don't try to add power or volume to your fry (it doesn't work the way normal phonation and volume works so you'll just be wasting time; wait for my video on this topic), 2) don't retain air; get rid of the air and then vocalise - so exhale, then fry. You want to build the skill of singing on little air, not holding back air and definitely not "filling up" with air, contrary to some beliefs.
@@AlikiKatriou Thank you! It's been very helpful :)
Hella loving your tuts!!!! i have years and years of doing weird noices but kinda seriously wana learn to use my voice properly, so im finding your content really enlightening XD
:D go for it ^^
@@AlikiKatriou ❤️ that's my new goal for this end of the year 😳🙏
The best tutorial. I've finally understand it and found my vocal fry.
Ps. Love the way u gesticulate it.
Yaay ^^
You are so freaking fun!
Yaaay thank you!
"somewhere lower than thaaat" haha loved it
You're the cutest teacher that i've ever seen , i completely got the lesson thanks💖💖💖 and by the way i thanks for the video
Well done Aliki!Great break down!👏😊
thank you ^^
I've never learnt vocal. Instead of doing my actual homework, I am here. Informative anyways!
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Watching this in October during covid lockdown but very good video!
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I love everything about this video
Great voice
Thank you!
When I was a child (around 13-15) I used to make the "Samara noise" very easily,but now with 23 I can't anymore :') I sure that would be very helpful
Yes, that is a good starting point. That being said, if your brain has forgotten how to make the "Samara noise", it doesn't matter :) It's just a matter of exploring and experimenting with your voice until you find it again.
Thanks for this tutorial!! Since i subscribed to your channel i was waiting for your tutorial on this subyect!!
Thank you ^.^ I've got a whole bunch planned for vocal fry but do let me know if you're struggling with anything specific!
@@AlikiKatriou Thank you! Well, the hardest part is to move the fry from the chest to the head voice, but obviously that's the next step you were talking about in the video :P, so we just need to wait :)
@@Francisco17Berrios Yup, that's coming up and yes, it is really difficult!!
Oh god I need to know how to take this into the higher registers
it's coming ^^
@@AlikiKatriou Awesome!
My method of finding my vocal fry range was growing up in California
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Thank you for this, you clearly have a huge knowledge about this!
thank you ^^
Shes special 😍
Officially a fan...
Really nice video. Thank you.
OMG, 4:20 makes me want to hide under the bed (which I can't, because that's where my chaos is hiding.) I've never heard something so much like a Grausedrude / Harpy without even a touch of special effects, it's bloody amazing.
The whole video is interesting and clear instructions and fun to watch ... oh, and honestly: It's so nice to see a female youtuber who skips make-up and goes straight for info and instructions.
(I know it's everybody's personal decision, but sometimes it feels like 20 minutes make-up are a must for youtubers with ovaries, and it's discouraging.)
Well said! 🖤🤘
Yeah, I really would love to see more women without make up... Very often I'll just vanish from social media entirely because I'm fatigued by seeing everyone trying so hard >
Woot, nice little breakdown of the 4 registers, sure makes things seem a lot simpler than I've known it as (would love to see some tips on getting whistle down the line too btw lol). Keen for more on fry, it's definitely a weakness for me compared to false cord. Is it weird that I can keep that basic fry but make it higher without it breaking into that screamy noise you did? Am I actually changing the pitch or just getting the illusion from my mouth shape maybe lol hmm. I can get the start of the screamy noise tho, but I do find it harder depending on what I've been doing on a given day, and often don't like my tone. Also heaps keen to hear about how to get volume on this sound, I think I'm louder than I realise but I wanna make sure I'm doing things right! I've gotten to a happy place with my false cord and a lot of the sounds I can make with that, but some things are rather tricky in it, so I'd love to get the hang of fry to expand my vocal toolkit! Will be waiting eagerly for the next installment :D
*One problem with this video tho* - the sound was reeeally quiet, had to turn my speakers up to max which is always mildly terrifying lol. Noticed the sound on the last video was a bit weird too but yeah this one was super soft. Are you able to turn it up a bit for the next one? I was very nervous my computer might blast me with some notification bleeping in the middle of trying to watch you hahahaha, I like loud noises but usually in a metal context not my computer trying to give me a heart attack context lol XD
Yeah, I gave up on the sound for some videos because it plays very differently on different devices and with different headphones so myeh... that being said, it's also probably stemming from personal bias too; I'm constantly turning the volume down on everything XD
It's normal to be able to keep the basic fry sound and take it much higher without changing the tone. Whether it's healthy or recommended is another matter altogether and I wouldn't be able to guess outside a lesson context; I've often spent an entire 60min lesson on this issue with some students.
Oh wow! O_O; Thankfully I'm not stuck with the problem then! XD Lol I still wanna get lessons one day but the Aussie exchange rate is so bad rn on top of the time difference 😭 one day!
Well I hope you don't turn down the sound any lower haha ^_^; I've run out of things I can turn up to be able to hear it lol. Would have to start ripping the videos to put into software to boost it, then remove the noise floor and hope you still sound the same haha. 😬
@@DestroyerMariko XD I doubt it will ever go lower than vocal fry videos XD
good stuff. thank you!
I was always able to get that sound, but when i try to do it on higher notes(basically on any note) i sing an octave lower. Do you have any idea how to sound raspy but without going an Octave lower?
It depends on why you're going an octave lower... As in, are your true vocal folds dropping the pitch lower or is the fry creating a subharmonic that's an octave lower.
If it's your vocal folds, try going in and out of the distortion. So start clean, then fry, then clean and don't spend too much time in fry.
If it's the fry creating the subharmonic you'll need to do the fry in an even more relaxed way. Try a looser clean to start with or even making it feel a little bit breathy.
Informative. Thank you. 🙂
Thank you!
You are awesome!
Thank you!
Omggg thank you so muchhhh!! I can finally sing that hybrid rock song I love so much 😭✌🏻✨
Yaaaaay :D
Thanks for the video :) very helpful!
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The information that vocal fry uses less air is what did it for me. I fry higher in pitch than my lowest note but that's fine, practice time
cool ^^
I got an F1 thanks to your help
yaaaaaaay :D
You are amazing!! I basically can't vocal fry yet...
That's normal. Be patient with yourself and make sure you aren't getting loud or too breathy :)
Hi Aliki, great video!! One thing I'm not sure about, what do you mean by breathy?
Hi, by breathy I mean a small amount of air audibly leaking past the vocal folds. (and of course, I can't think of a good example at the moment >.< Think first verse of a ballad, like Beast In Black - Ghost In The Rain)
Such an amazing video!🙌 Really helps me understand what to do except for the little cracking of your voice when you get low, it's just not there for me. 😪
If you're going low and nothing is happening you might not be low enough in your range. If you go low and it's getting breathy and then fading out, you'll need to move down without getting breathy at all in order to locate fry. If you go low and the sound just stops without getting breathy or tight or anything, then you might need to stay on the low notes and try sliding down in slow motion to promote further relaxation of the vocal folds :)
Thank you so much for the tips! I will definitely try it soon!
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Hey! Thanks for the tutorial! I’m able to Fry scream in the mornings when I’m just waking up and on the way to work I crush my fry screams. It was easy to find that “sweet spot” but after work or when I’m more awake, I feel like it’s really tough for me to do a good vocal fry and hit that sweet spot consistently.
I’m I crazy or is there something to this?
Any info or tips are appreciated! Thanks!
This is 100% normal. In the mornings your breathflow is less, your breathing is really lazy from sleeping and your body is under energized and not really putting in much effort. Fry loves all these things! I usually recommend people practise fry first thing in the morning and that they avoid normal vocal warm ups if they want fry...
Tip: record yourself counting to 5 in your speaking voice in the morning and guess what volume you're doing that at (pick a number from 1-10). Then do the same thing after work and see how that number differs. If it's higher, try moving your volume down to where it was in the morning and then attempting your fry work :)
@@AlikiKatriou THANK YOU! Glad I’m not crazy! Well... I am but anyone who is a content creator and metal vocalist has to be nuts, right? Ha!
Going to try the counting exercise too! Awesome tip and great clarification! I really appreciate it Aliki!🤘
1:49 lmao im ✨magical✨
You da best!
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Thanks for your tutorial. Please tell, can Vocal Fry Tutorial improve any kind of voice disorders?
It depends on the disorder and how we do vocal fry. Vocal fry will be most useful for disorders that involve pressing the vocal folds together too harshly, or breath & pressure issues. We'd be looking for very light use of fry in these instances in order to experience good vocal fold closure without effort or much pressure. If we're looking at more organic disorders (cysts, polyps etc), rather then dysfunctional behaviours, fry might not be the best strategy. If done lightly, it won't do harm, but it might not be the most useful option.
she has such cynical enthusiasm. Can't put my finger on it. Not complaining neither.
Me sings extremely low bass* keeps going lower* discovers he can sing lower than what was known before. No vocal fry but I somehow increased my low end range even more :)
haha, this is awesome! Embrace the low XD
Awesome man, wish I could hear that. lol I love low voices like Geoff Castellucci
Can't do it.
I finally managed to feel my vocal fry not in my throat, but like if it was coming from behind, like from my chest or my ears, I dont even know. I definetly feel my lungs working hard, but it feels soo much confortable, doesnt hurt or anything. And it sounds even lower and with more power. So I think I finally got it right... Right? D:
Possibly. Sensations in singing actually give us little information because it's so dependent on the shape and size of your vocal tract in combination with your skull, so it's a bit of a personal experience thing only. This is part of the reason why I don't really talk too much about sensation. Sounds like it could be right, I would challenge you to feel no work from your lungs at all, so make it even more comfortable & lazy...
Back at the beginning since I haven’t been able to practice 😭💔
You’re voice gets so deep!!! How did you practice that? Just low pitch vocal fry practices?
Do you mean my speaking voice or my fry. I practised singing to the bottom of my range trying 3 different degrees of compression: breathy, normal and fry. I then worked on the fry very very slowly to get it lower and lower.
@@AlikiKatriou i was talking about how low your vocal fry gets, but your speaking voice is pretty low and sultry lol
@@kojik4271 XD
I did this to scare my friends at primary. Never knew it was used for singing
It's good to scare one's friends :P
I'm not really sure,but I think that a may have a gap in my vocal chords,I can't do this fry sound,well just a liiiiittle bit and then.. nothing,I don't know if I'm doing something wrong,if I'm not in total control of my breath,but I can't do this,and when I do,starts to hurt a little
There are so many things that could be happening... one option is that you could be in a tighter coordination of fry, another option is that your false vocal folds could be approximating or even vibrating slightly. Try sliding downwards into the sound from a clean, speaking pitch...
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I don’t understand how to make it less breathy :/
I get fry but underneath I can hear lots of air
Going higher gives me the same problem
Have you tried "reverse engineering" the issue? Rather than trying to get less air in your fry, simply inhale normally, then exhale most of your air and make your fry sound. Don't do this while driving, it might make you light headed. But we're basically exploring how much air you might need to get "rid of" before the vocal folds make closer contact easily because they aren't resisting all that air/being blown apart.
All that being said, there's nothing "wrong" with breathy fry. You can unlock some really cool sounds from a breathy fry. It's just nice to be able to do either/or :)
Hey, very good videos! Try using some compressor or limiter on your recordings because your voice is way too quiet.
Yup, trying different things at the moment to fix this long-term :)
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Hey, you make really great and useful content, thank you. I'd like to ask you if there are any possible ways to do fry and false cord screams quiet but at the same momet save the efficiency of practicing. I haven't began to try to do vocals yet, so I'm thinking of how not to disturb my family and neighbors and I also just don't like loud noises in inappropriate situations.
I hear you and I feel the pain of volume too >.< It's much easier to practise vocal fry quietly without annoying anyone. False cord tends to be a bit loud because you've got 2 sets of vocal folds vibrating, so there's quite a bit of noise going on... Do you sing clean?
@@AlikiKatriou no, I have never done any type of vocals before but I used to play saxophone, so I know how to use the diafragm, it gotta help me with the false cord screaming, I hope.
@@philtejeda3110 if you haven't done cleans my advice is start using your voice, especially your falsetto (think light & feminine-sounding). Your goal is less air, less less less, waaaayy less than you'd need for saxophone :D
@@AlikiKatriou I accidently did a fry scream while practicing the fry but now I forgot how I've done that. I hope I'll figure out how I did that but I'm really excited because it was my first time ever practicing vocals! Thank you very much, your videos and your answers keep me interested and kinda inspired in learning vocals. Also, I checked Desolate Plains and found the music sounding very interesting and enjoyable to me. I hope you're having a good time during the quarantine:)
@@philtejeda3110 Wooohooo!! Fantastic! Keep doing what you're doing - vocal fry is a bit hit and miss in the beginning so be patient with yourself :D
Thank you for checking out the music ^.^
I can't seem to find my vocal fry, im a beginner in vocals and generally singing so whenever i try to go lower i either end up with a whistle or throat bass
I used to be able to do vocal fry until i found a youtube video of subharmonic register and start practicing it. And now i forgot how to do vocal fry. And when i am trying to do vocal fry, i ended up doing subharmonic.
My working hypothesis is that subharmonic stuff is using the thyroarytenoid muscle during fry. So, in your case, instead of starting in your normal chest voice play around with a) dropping from falsetto into light chest voice into light fry, b) starting with a light, slightly breathy chest voice and going into fry.
When we vocal fry, do we actually engage false chords?
When we vocal fry, the false vocal folds do not need to engage. That being said, some people do engage their false folds whilst frying and some singers who "fry scream" are in a combo/hybrid distortion of fry + false folds.
How do you other viewers react to people who find fry to be annoying?
Loads of people find fry annoying. I don't know... I think it's normal to like or dislike things randomly. It depends on what the brain has connected it to, probably.
Is there any way to get rid the vocal fry? I have it even when I speak and it’s so annoying 😭
There are various ways. You might have vocal fry when speaking if you're speaking at a pitch that is too low, so the first thing I would explore would be speaking pitch. From then on, you'll need to increase the volume of your voice, possible increase airflow too. You can also do explorations with the airflow but those are slightly more complex to type up... I would start with pitch & volume first.
@@AlikiKatriou thank you!!!
I've tried to go so low but it dont crack and didnt sound fry even a bit, but i will try it again
Make sure that you aren't getting breathy and that you're staying relaxed nonetheless as you go lower.
I am kind of curious to know about your thoughts of young people that utilizes vocal fry on casual conversations? Particularly young people(male/females).
Vocal fry is an interesting one because it can be very good for you and is used by voice therapists to help a number of vocal issues. That being said, everything depends on how it's done...
Regarding people speaking with a lot of vocal fry , I think it is good to minimise the amount of vocal fry one uses in speech. Two reasons: 1) it is very difficult to know, at a low range, how much tension lies within vocal fry and it's even harder to tell at the speed of speech, so it's safer to avoid it and 2) people often have a negative emotional response to vocal fry and this can impact the individual speaking so, again, safer to avoid for social reasons.
μπορεις να κανεις βιντεο για το πως να κανεις fry screams
Κούτσα κούτσα προς τ΄κει το πηγαίνω, απλά πρέπει να καλύψω πολύ ύλη....
does fry come from true vocal cords or false? or it's always a mix between them? does it depend on the pitch of fry?
when I'm playing with fry I notice that lowest fry is... Well, lower, physically.
whilst higher fry (say, you're coming into fry from falsetto), is a lot higher, and physically feels like somewhere in soft palate.
are they both safe for frequent usage?
are they fundamentally different?
is there any lesson on anatomical aspects of fry and other distortion types?
thanks
Hi! Vocal fry always happens with your true vocal folds. It has nothing to do with your false vocal folds. We are physiologically able to activate the true vocal folds in fry and activate the false vocal folds at the same time for a combo fry + false fold distortion.
What you feel during singing of any kind are sympathetic vibrations and they can be different for every person as they are based on the shape & size of your vocal tract and the shape & size of your skull.
As long as you aren't using air to get the sound and you aren't squeezing/pushing to create the vocal fry, whatever you're doing is safe for frequent usage. As long as fry isn't your exclusive usage and you're still speaking "normally" and are able to sing in falsetto, that's good.
Your low & high fry are not really anatomically different as far as I know.
At the moment, I don't have a video purely on anatomical aspects of distortions...
@@AlikiKatriou here's probably best examples I could find, maybe you find it useful too:
ruclips.net/video/P3xOHJJzQN8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/T3jRE2SPv-w/видео.html
You're still doing paid lessons online, right?
@@spx730 aww Brandon Kennedy, yup, seen all his stuff ^^ Thank you ^^
Yes, I'm still giving paid singing lessons online!
Please make a whistle register tutorial ....
I would love to but I'd need to bury myself in more books & research papers before I do so publicly (need to make sure everything is up to date!) >
@@AlikiKatriou it's totally fine if you do a lil bit late.....I know waiting is worth for this tutorial :) .....but please make a tutorial on that 🙏🙏
@@Aditya-yi7uy I will do :)
thanks for the videos I appreciate youy luv , umm can you teach me how to fry scream I will pay for private lessons
I teach 24/7, you can see my availability on the booking page of my website www.aliki.katriou.com ^^
Seems like I can vocal fry but only when doing reverse breathing basically pulling air in. Am I cheating?
No. We love inhales. Nothing wrong with inhales. If inhales are working well for you, start to notice them and pay special attention to the amount of air you're inhaling and then compare that to the amount you exhale.
I feel like i have replaced my vocal fry with subharmonics. Everytime i slide down there is a small point where its fry but a bit lower its turning into subharmonics. And i normally cant switch to fry its just already turning into subs
Ah, this is interesting. Getting out of subharmonics might need a bit more air moving through the system but I wouldn't put my hand in fire on that one...
I need to clean up my vocal fry. It sounds like a 2 stroke dirt bike while idling
XD Start by making it quieter and lighter, as light as you can go (light in terms of muscle).
@CaptainWarhead A beautiful sound! 🖤
Hey, any tips for doing whistle tone (for guys)?
Honestly, aim for G6 and above - not lower - and try them on an inhale. You'll have to inhale the least amount of air physically possible in order to get the tone :)
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I dont get breathy or anything and i sound good at first but when i try to actually add the scream like effect it doesnt really work if that makes any sense at all and idk why
I'm not quite sure what you mean, however if you're trying to add anything maybe experiment with taking away even more...
Am I the only one thinking about Babadook while watching the last part of the video?
are you australian? most of your accent sounds aussie but there are certain quirks that i can't quite place
Oooo good ears... I'm not. My mother is from New Zealand, so that's what you're picking up on. The weird quirks are because I went to a Greek-American high school at 15 and they couldn't understand my accent so I had to mess up some vowels & consonants here and there XD
i cant find register
First thought: if you're going into nothingness and a breathy sound, you need to use a lot less air to find it.
🤔 I ended up here but actually not sure if fry is the technique I want to learn, I was interested about distorted voices between singing and screaming (like tool, linkin park, stoned jesus) for a stoner rock style and I heard that kind of voice is achieved mixing fry scream with regular singing but this seems to be completely different. Yet interesting.
I am probably one of the few people on the internet who would argue that the bands you mentioned seldom use fry. Linkin Park used to use fry sometimes live but not really on the recordings. At some point, I need to make a tutorial about those kind of sounds...
@@AlikiKatriou Thank you for your answer, I agree with you, I don´t think the fry technique is the right way to achieve that effect.
A tutorial about that would be awesome!
I have what people would say is a deep voice, at least for my country. Really struggling to find the fry. I'll give your method a try later (I can't make much noise right now) and hopefully I'll finally be able to find it. Almost feels like my throat is coated to prevent it from happening - it's low but quite broken some higher sounds pop in and out sometimes too. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, just can't seem to get that stable croakiness in demo videos. Any other tips or tricks for someone who is still struggling to find it? Are some people just unable to fry?
Everyone is physiologically able to fry. You might need to significantly reduce your volume. Do you have a low, loud/booming voice?
@@AlikiKatriou well, that is good news! When speaking you could say I do have a deep, loud, sometimes booming voice, was pointed out to me a lot in my younger days. So, I've generally tried to keep the volume down as I've gotten older...except when I laugh, then everyone hears it 😂
Could mucus / nasal drip also play a part in it?
@@dkryptonut Nasal drip is always annoying and it can make your life harder but it won't prevent you from being able to fry :) I'd guess volume is the struggle...
@@AlikiKatriou thanks very much! I will experiment with volume 😁
I watched this video because VRBO ads make me want to scream
Hey great video. I have a question about a certain bands vocal style, and was wondering if it was vocal fry? I'll respond to this comment with the song if you can help
ruclips.net/video/HPklUo9K3SY/видео.html
Let me know which bands/songs/timestamps etc.
@@AlikiKatriou I put a link in the reply
@@AlikiKatriou ruclips.net/video/HPklUo9K3SY/видео.html
@@rob1996ization ah, I guessed this might be the case. Can you tell me what to search online because, for whatever reason, RUclips is just not letting me see or access the link >