Real Time with Bill Maher: Overtime - February 20, 2015 (HBO)
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Bill Maher and his guests - Aloe Blacc, Bill Nye, Rob Reiner, Elahe Izadi and Fran Lebowitz - answer viewer questions after the show.
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Bill Nye and Elahe Izadi were easily the most informed in every debate. It was one young journalist and an old scientist against three frightened old biddies
Fucking shit so true man. I felt bad.
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It's my understanding that the anti-semitism problem in europe and the Islamist terrorist problem are essentially the same thing. I don't think it's a coincidence that France is both the most anti-Semitic country in Europe and has the highest Muslim population. All across Europe, Islam has been increasing in popularity, to the detriment of the Jews.
Rob Reiner FTW. Nye seemed to just add disjointed facts that didn't further the discussion...
It's because Fran the Troll keeps interrupting him so she can stay in the spotlight. He has more patience than I ever could... I would've at least confronted her and asked her not to interrupt. "Excuse me, I have the floor..." type of thing.
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Nye was also getting interrupted. Hard to make a complete argument when someone cuts you off.
I'm impressed by Nyes modern thinking. Not many people in his age are able to be this smart and open-minded about these things. Very cool.
***** No shit Sherlock.
***** Well, since there were 4 people in the video that was not able to think that way I thought it was impressive that Nye actually stood up and made sense when the others didn't. But I appologize, I'll make sure to ask for your permission next time I feel impressed ;)
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+Barbara Dunca.
I am impressed with Nye as well but your premise is absurd and bigoted. (in case YOU aren't smart enough to know the difference, bigoted is not the same as racism....)
Because I know a LOT of younger people who are ignorant and closed minded.
Wow. I started out loving Fran Lebowitz. She was just killing it talking about Guliani (sp?) and I was really digging her. Then I watched this. Fran needs to stfu. On the other hand, I have even more respect for Bill Nye for not completely losing it on her and Rob Reiner. LOL
gun toting penguin annoyed at Fran after dissing the south... are you.... from the south ?!????!?????
ubuu7 Huh. Nowhere there did I say I was annoyed at her for dissing the south. Did you hurt yourself jumping to conclusions? I got annoyed because she kept having to get the last word in every time Bill Nye (or anyone else on the panel) answered a question. I take back putting Rob Reiner in there because there were a bunch of times she talked over him too. I still really like her, but that was kind of super annoying.
You are talking about a guy that debated Ken Ham on evolution. His patience has no limits.
Wendy Willason I have to agree with you. Plus, she dissed Truman Capote's intelligence. He probably wasn't clever in the same way that she is, but there's more than one form of intelligence. But, I didn't really hear her saying anything too brilliant, besides suggesting that physical attractiveness and intelligence aren't necessarily diametrically opposed. Mostly, it just looked like she was trying to put others on the defensive, by being arrogant, and by being the first to call other people stupid. Pretty lame performance, but she's getting up there.
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People choosing whom was their favourite on this panel - Relax, it's not a competition. No one is gonna give you a gold medal.
BILL WAS THE BEST!
I just want a chocolate one. BILL! BILL! BILL!
Once again, Bill Nye is the smartest person on the panel.
Bill, you raised a good question; if you live in Beijing and you can’t breathe the air, wouldn’t you want to make a change? Maybe a small part of the problem is that people like your guests Fran Leibowitz and Rob Reiner (who I love) are not willing to take seriously a brilliant guy and climate scientist like Bill Nye?
Bill Nye is not climate scientist. He is mechanical engineer. That doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is talking about, he is scientifically literate and can interpret what climate scientist have written.
SquidCaps All he does all day long is research, travel, talks to real scientist, and acts as a translator to the public. I think you are making the critical mistake in assuming that 'because you haven't been educated in a university, you cannot possibly pick up the same books being used an teach yourself. And again, he is discussing these things with top scientist all the time.
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hey,,its the governor walker defense for not needing an education,at university,,,being tried out in you tube
...and he,,,squid, agrees with you kid
i "think" your assuming everyone disagrees
lol
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Nope, i'm only stating the obvious fact and one that Nye himself has said; he is not a climate scientist. Neither am i but i can still understand what is happening.
SquidCaps cause people like you pull that education bulshit if he says he knows just as much. Which he literally does. But yall do that shit
Fran Lebowitz is the best. She will happily make anyone look like a fool who is out of line.
I think what Elahe Izadi is saying is that, at one point in time there used to be a "job" for everyone. For example, cobbler,printer,outfitter,lumber yard, general store....now its not the same way. I think that is a result of over-saturation of technology too rapidly, and lack of education that develops a more guided path leading towards a particular career field of some kind.
Poor Bill. It seemed the entire show he kept trying to make great points but kept being interrupted. One could even see the frustration on his face.
Which Bill?
It’s cool they let that tiny lady from the incredibles on the show
Saw Fran Lebowitz and thought "Damn! Howard Stern is looking rough nowadays"
I love the show but the last couple episodes of have left a bad taste in my mouth. His vaccination episode was completely misguided. With this one, he went on a rant against streaming music. Bill, the reason songwriters are being screwed isn't Spotify. If you look at their financials, Spotify spends 75% of their revenue reimbursing labels and the rest to grow the company, their margins are measly. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of songwriters and artists don't have the leverage of Taylor Swift, and are bullied by studios into disadvantageous and poor-paying contracts.
Taylor Swift has got to be the most overrated "artist" ever. The fact that she is so popular shows you how bad things are. She has an average singing voice, she cannot dance at all and most of her music sounds the same and most of it is stupid. Also she has never been in a relationship but that is all she sings about. And now I have noticed she is getting a big head.
Yes. It's like he became a grumpy old man in the past month. All of them being alarmist, in my day types.
I found myself disagreeing quite a bit with Bill and Aloe in that interview. I've always been a big advocate of being open about intellectual property. Sure, there are some downsides to losing "control" of your "product", but there are usually a lot of upsides as well. More people hear your music (or see your film or whatever it may be), more word of mouth and it often leads to higher sales than the artist would have had otherwise. The only reason it LOOKS like they're making less than they would have otherwise is because they're looking at the situation through the prism of "What if all those free plays had been sales?"... Well, sure, then sales would be significantly higher. But the illogic there is that those free plays aren't necessarily lost sales... those people playing it for free wouldn't have necessarily gone out and bought the album if they couldn't listen to it for free... they just wouldn't listen to it. I used to download a LOT of music and I still download movies a lot... If I couldn't download them, I wouldn't be going out and paying for them instead. I just wouldn't be seeing as many movies.
And a standard response to that is to point to past sales, before the internet, and say they're higher than sales today. Yeah, because that was BEFORE THE INTERNET. People didn't have as many entertainment options, so they relied just on movies, tv and music. Sales of every type of pre-internet media is down compared to before, the same way that VHS sales plummeted when DVD came out. Because it's been replaced by something better.
For music artists to shy away from streaming is like a filmmaker who refuses to put his movies on DVD or Blu-Ray, because they grew up with VHS and stubbornly insist that VHS sales are the only barometer of success. In other words, the world has changed and the music industry can't hold onto record sales as being the only barometer of success, because it isn't anymore. They need to find ways to monetize streaming more effectively... not just avoid streaming.
And just like it's always been, musicians still make most of their income from live performances and other avenues. It's easy to point to artists only making "$2700" from streaming and say they deserve more than that... but throw in the money they're making from touring, the millions they can make from merchandising and licensing deals (Jay-Z built an empire of a brand... he's not a multi-millionaire just because of his music), press appearances (how much do you think Aloe got paid for his appearance on this show so that he can talk about how he's not making enough money?)... suddenly, these poor destitute musicians don't look so bad off. And if streaming makes your music more popular, then these avenues only become more lucrative.
The whole interview just felt very money-grubby to me. Aloe's sitting there, a millionaire in really nice dress, on a mass-media stage with a fellow millionaire... complaining that he's not making enough money. He seems to care more about keeping every possible penny he can than people hearing his "product". Yeah, it just REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
ann landers Stand's post wasn't about the merits of Taylor Swift as an artist or a person, but thanks for sharing. Sounds like you needed to get that off your chest.
Totally agree with you! Maher is right on most issues, but there are some issues where it's obvious that he's getting too old. His is so wrong on vaccinations and technology that he ironically sounds like a conservative. Bill Nye, as he always is, was on the right side of this debate. Technology is fantastic; it's enhancing our lives! Sure, there are drawbacks, but that's what laws are for. We as humans can figure out how to mitigate the drawbacks.
Fran Lebowitz is wonderful. One of the funniest people alive.
Deflating the pomposity of pontificators is especially welcome.
@ 4:10 When Bill Maher asked about gatekeepers, I think back to before the proliferation of the Internet, when there were only a handful of TV stations, magazines and newspapers doing the news, or an equally small number of music and movie publishing organizations, and everyone got their media from them. Now, anyone can create media content and distribute it, though while their market share is significantly diminished, the system has been democratized and thus vastly improved.
Wow ... I always thought Fran Lebowitz was smarter than that. That comment about letting go of the south was an "idiots at the Tim Horton's" level thought.
Is'nt Tim Horton's a Canadian chain?
Like Bill Maher, Fran Leibowitz is a comedian, so a lot of what she says are points she has edited way down just for shock value as a humorist. Plus she's a New Yorker--I lived there for decades, some of the same ones she did, and they every once in a while vote to secede (from the union). So, there's that...
I agree with Fran, they should have let the south secede.
mst3kpimp Yes it is and the people who hang out there are notorious up here for having not very nuanced views on things. (I am not talking about the regular customers, just the folks who spend HOURS just hanging around the store or the parking lot.)
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, It would have been practical 150 years ago, not so much anymore. We'd have to pay more for those VWs and BMWs
Been watching this show for years and tonight's was stellar--great, great guests, wish they were all being given equal respect. Anyway, HBO, offer this episode for free as an educational contribution to the global conversation.
"OMG, I don't understand computers! They must be bad and scary!"
I think Jon Stewart said it well, the internet is like schoolchildren passing notes.
rob reiner was really great on this show(good to see him back on the panel!)
Trouble with panel shows, people like Mr Nye and Ms Izadi don't get enough time to express their thoughts. Rob Reiner seems very informed, I enjoyed his insights. Some may not appreciate thought provoking discussions like this but they need to live in Oklahoma and have to listen to the SFB's we more progressives have listen to EVERY DAY!!!! If you don't believe me, look at the people elected to to congress from this totally Red state.
No, the Encyclopedia Britannica was NOT better than Wikipedia. It's constantly updated, and links to other clarifying info, and you don't have to go to a library for the complete volume.
Was that a xylophone or something at 9:22?
My goo! My precious goo!
I'm from Birmingham, AL...a progressive urban city. It IS a city/country thing. Thanks for pointing that out, Maher.
I live in the country in the south and I'm as liberal as they come... I do admit I am surrounded by idiots though!
I live in Missouri which isn't quite the south...and I'm surrounded by idiots......and next door to Kansas.
HawklordLI Kansas is full of idiots. They really embrace "The Stupid".
HawklordLI Missouri had a shadow government that fought for the Confederacy, they may not be technically in the South but they are close e-fucking-nough. Its not just "the South" its also the heartland, the middle of the country that is uber rural.
01denese, I know. I live in Kansas and feel like the top 1%-of common sense!
progKansas If you have fresh fruit and veggies with any meal (instead of fried meat, mashed potatoes and gravy) that automatically puts you in the 1% in Kansas.
Fran Lebowitz' extreme partisan views apparently prevent rational discourse in her presence.
She makes Reiner look conservative!
Good point about social media. It does have a good side though, as long as we use it to solve problems not to try to be famous alone.
Love Bill Nye
Bill sitting there like "what the fuck"
@2.42 Bill Nye the Science Guy Side Eye.
What I got out of that was 2 old guys (Maher and Reiner) who don't understand technology and are scared of the future. They can frame it in any terms they want, but Nye and Blacc make great points and Maher and Reiner just flounder.
Fran needs to realize her opinion isn't required for every topic in a debate. Just because she can talk doesn't mean she needs to.
Fran Lebowitz = Slappy the Squirrel
Bill 'I believe science when it fits my agenda' Maher.
If only I had HBO! Thank you for uploading.
Throughout this segment all I could think of was Rob Reiner saying "REALLY, ALL SHAVED, NO BUSH?" ( Wolf of Wall Street reference) :)
I Fear the Day That Technology Will Surpass Our Human Interaction
Albert Einstein
Indeed! And that time has come.
Suzanne Sheets Has it ? Because I am sitting here in this room in Czech Republic interacting with you.
Has it though? Greetings from Belgium
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this is starting to really piss me off, i get sick and tired of people reacting to this crap, you mention
"hey maybe we should pay attention and or be more careful with growing technology, make sure it doesn't surpass our ability to control and or hold onto it..."
and you get:
"Luddite scum, get into the new world grandpa you people are the ones bringing our society down!"
This idea that just by questioning whether or not we should have soemhting or just stating our fears/opinions on technology you are labeled anti-technology and vilified--well unfortunately this is legitimate concern--we see it with the internet where a lot of gray and bad things occur and are allowed to occur, because the law has not caught up with the technology--that is the problem,technology is growing so fast our laws barley have time to catch up.
your right technology has allowed people from all over the world communicate, even view one another and maintain relationships--it has also founded a peice of culture where people's social lives are mostly digital based--Facebook, Myspace (any of these dating and or social websites etc.), Twitter, Email etc. etc. how many times do i see people immersed in their phones and their phones alone--doing texting, games, music, not really talking to each other---in fact actual socialization like talking to another person without a screen or characters is rare for me to witness. Not a crippling culture but one that has to be addressed if we want the actal face to face socialization process to keep away from the endangered species list.
No one is anti-technology for raising the question are we being left behind where it counts with technology in exchange for convenience and simplistic pleasures.
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That is what I think he (or whomever said that) meant too, and that is all I was referring to. I am not against technology, but I am sad when I see people constantly in front of one screen or another almost all of the time.
Im surprised bill had howard stern on his show. They kept talking trash about each other. Guess it's all water under the bridge....
I've watched every episode for the years 5 years, and this was one of the most painful episodes I've had to sit through. Nye, while being highly informed on scientific matters, is unable to contribute to any other topic with other than rhetorical questions or hackneyed observations, he should really be only the mid show guest and only talk about science. And I'm a fairly liberal person, but Fran makes me want to join the tea party myself. If you can make Maher and Reiner cringe, you have some seriously fucked views. Walking stereotypes like her are exactly why conservatives find it so easy to hate liberals. Not to mention her banal and choppy banter that stopped conversation in its tracks, my god, please stick to writing. Stay far away from any live camera feeds
Couldn't agree more with you. All though I love Bill Nye and his books, he was really out of his element here, and Fran was just being completely obnoxious with the topic of technology.
I think you guys are mostly just mad at her for her technology comments, just about everything else she was spot on with. Republicans are racist fucks and control the old Confederate States, these are facts and that was most of what she talked about.
Terror350 I think we were better off before cell phones. Now EVERYBODY is obsessed and addicted with their phones. It is today's ADDICTION. Don't tell me I am wrong either. Go into any restaurant or coffee shot and 80% of the people will be STARING at their phones - even when they are with other people. RUDE is the word of today. In other ways though technology is great. I love that you can Google stuff or shop online. Good and bad.
ann landers I dont own a phone either and just use a computer so I know exactly what you are talking about BUT there are other ways to fix this, you think people are staring at their phones because they have them? No, they are doing it because they are ignorant and dont think they have anything better to do. If we were to properly educate them and stop letting corporations push this materialist bullshit on them things would change. Its not technology that is the problem, it is ignorance and the corporations who push it.
MRSEXY4EVER Best comment on this video. I agree with everything you said....about Nye and Fran especially. This episode was a tough watch....
I'll add that Wikipedia makes Encyclopedia Britannica look like a child's picture book. I'm addition to Wikipedia being as accurate or more accurate than traditional encyclopedias, the information exceedingly up to date and an entry has far more information.
Right, I'm sure Wikipedia's 5.3 million articles can't compare to Encyclopedia Britannia.
My respect goes out to anyone who didn't backhand that idiot for interrupting everything that was said.
"social media is look at me, look at" me coming from a profession that thrives from being known. More like 'what about me, what about me'.
Embrace the change, use the tool. Autodidact on any and every subject.
The internet is the single greatest tool for the progress of mankind
"You can get a *VACCINE* for polio"
Fucking love Bill Nye.
2:45 - hey, Rob Reiner, let the lady finish!
polio is incurable.
i hate it when they talk over each other
Did Rob say that Selma wasn't nominated? Because it is nominated for Best Picture. Was he talking about acting noms?
We had a whole set encyclopaedia Britainica
The singer guy said the smartest thing of all, about us never knowing how to make use of technoligy. No one picked it up?!
this is so sad for me...Fran Lebowitz being apart of this conversation is like Rudolf Valentino being apart of a discussion with James Cameron about film
Basically Bill Nye and Elahe Izadi vs 3 frightened old luddites.
I wish they had given Nye more room to talk during the actual episode. He had some insight to give on a few subjects, but it felt like they cut him off for the sake of jokes and more simplified commentary.
Medicine is massively improved in Fran's lifetime, to say only Polio is an uninformed answer. Organ Transplantation is HUGE. The massive changes in joint repair/replacement ( i had a joint in my back replaced). Heart Surgury ect ect. They may not have "Cured" things but they have saved countless more lives within the Cardiology field alone.
I'm getting really tired of people saying that modern technology makes people stupid and less informed. Thank you, Bill Nye, for being the voice of reason on the issue.
They are right about urban vs rural in the south. The reason urban people are more liberal than rural people in general is because the urban folks have higher degrees of education. Even socially moderate conservatives know that. It's not opinion. It's a fact that knowledge is inherently liberal while faith is inherently conservative.
Connecticut FTW! :p
Bill Nye has that " can i slap some of these people and get away with it?" face
Understandable.
2:42 - Bill Nye's Hate Crime Face
Lebowitz is quite a character. Is she anything she does approve of?
I'm not good with faces, but doesn't the lady with the glasses & shoulder pads play Kate Kaplan on The Blacklist?
How the hell does Rob Reiner not know Selma WAS nominated?
Aloe makes a lot of good points. :)
I never even HEARD of nightcrawler. ? ? ?
I want to see a talk show hosted by Bill Nye and Rob Reiner.
Too many rude obnoxious East coasters on the panel drowning out the people trying to say something insightful
Fran came off a tad bit obnoxious and cynical
Rob Reiner seems to be VERY afraid of Hackers.
"Change your password Rob." ROTFL
This was a really good overtime and a good full show, it had a lot of interesting guests, although it kind of felt like they kept interrupting the smartest guy at the table, Bill Nye.
I never respected Bill Maher more! EXACTLY! Nightcrawler should have been nominated! Bingo!
Indeed, we are less informed now than we were in decades past because of the amount of choice we have. When someone encounters ideas that may be true but disturb their established world view, they just hit the X at the top right corner of the screen and it goes away. The lanes of communication have become more rigid now than ever before because of choice. The necessary growth must be in our collective ability to at least listen to uncomfortable ideas. We must somehow learn to deal with the fear of being hard sold on something we will later regret, the overwhelming nature of problems that seem beyond our individual ability to do anything about, and the annoyance of possibly being sucked into an endless circular argument over dead(zombie) ideas. We will probably have to reach a crisis point where bullshit cannot be tolerated because all of our lives are at stake. In truth, our freedom and the existence of the whole planet are threatened by none other than the overwhelming volume of bullshit in the communication stream.
A bunch of old timers scared of change. Reiner: "We are less informed now." Are you kidding, or just ignorant? Internet users and students know WAY more than their equivalents of the previous generation. How to apply that knowledge is another question, but saying we know less because of technology is honestly one of the dumbest things I've heard.
Did Reiner say that Selma was not nominated?
Bill Nye is the only smart one on this subject the rest should not be commenting
The anti-technology rants being spewed make me so pissed off. Gah! You fools! Technology and science have literally solved 99% of your problems! Every single thing about your life, from the food you eat, to the ways we communicate and ALL the old problems we used to have are now gone. Food storage? Fridges. Medical technology and understanding that allows us to double or triple our lifespans. I mean, fuck! Come ON! It would be harder to name one area of life that technology has NOT improved in our daily lives!
The girl in blue looks hungry. Ha
He was in Macon? Tell Lee I said hi.
These bobble head sessions aren't very elucidating. Rob Reiner, in particular. doesn't realize he's part of the problem. He's so far left he's loathe to admit Obama ever does anything wrong. This is the second show I've seen Reiner on where he danced away from any criticizing of Obama.
Every time I saw 2:29 Fran Lebowitz I thought of Edna from "The Incredibles." But it turns out that, along with Rob Reiner, she was in "The Wolf of Wall Street" - remember the judge who sets Jordan Belfort's bail at $10 million? Lebowitz probably got the gig because Martin Scorsese directed a documentary about her in 2010 called "Public Speaking."
And you know how I got all that info? That's right, the Encyclopædia Britannica. No, not really.
Phew, at least it was not the "always reliable Encyclopædia Moronica" :-D
I'd rather have people hack bank and rob them rather then me being in a bank and have a heist with guns. It is much safer for human life.
@7:30 Mr.Reiner...that why good penetration testers (professional hackers) can make in the range of 150k and bug hunters have unlimited income if they find exploits...good bugs pay almost 50 THOUSAND dollars EACH!! Get your kid into coding class NOW
You all know you went straight to the search tab and looked for "we live in public".
please disinvite Fran next time..
Fran added nothing to that conversation.
I suddenly got a whole lot of respect for Washington Post.
I second Nightcrawler as the worst snub of the year
Fran is wrong about the city, country thing just being in the south. It is very much in the Midwest too. Rural populations are more conservation than urban.
Somebody get Lebowitz a tablet. She has no idea what's going on.
I can't wait that long too. That is why I was cross with you.
Nye for president of the world
These old ppl other than Nye are so out of touch about the tech debate
Real Time; feel free not to let Lebowitz back on.
Seriously.
The problem with immigration is we must decide as a nation what are acceptable limits.
Those who profit from a labor glut through high unemployment and low wages desire this "broken system" we have today, so while politicians clamour for "reform" they are covertly fulfilling the desires of their corporate benefactors.
The limits may not be as much of an issue.
*If* the immigration system really worked (including migrant workers etc) then we wouldn't have people getting paid under the table or with false SS/taxes etc. illegal workers live in a black market where minimum wage, insurance, etc don't exist. it depresses the wage of legal workers in all those areas and breaks chunks of the economy while at the same time magnifying legal citizen purchasing power in those areas (cheaper veggies in the grocery, cheaper construction costs, etc).
if immigration were fixed, then we would see a sudden inflation of cost in those areas and the effects would be widespread. boom! our purchasing power would take a huge hit. then, over time, as legal employment took over, the economy would respond with more worker salaries, better tax collection, insurance, etc. things would level out and we would get used to some higher prices in areas as well as more money in worker's pockets.
while painful, the big shift would not so much be immigration but legal employment. at that point it would be feasible to actually come up with more sensible taxing strategies and immigration policies. I think once that were true, the pressures would equalize and there wouldn't need to be strict limits since immigration would level itself out. it would take time, but it's really when everything is over the counter instead of under the counter that the natural forces involved in immigration can take care of themselves.
What reason does Fran Liebowitz have for remaining alive?
That it is illegal to kill her?
TheUnatuber I can't believe that she's only 64. Talk about aging terribly.
The only thing Lebowitz managed to bring to this conversation is that she is entirely irrelevant.
I wonder, if they create a new Star Trek show if Bill Nye could be Q?! "Humanity is on trial for their past and should not go further and infect the rest of the galaxy...." You know, something around those lines.
Tech has vastly shifted humanity
Doesn't Elahe perform at the DC Improv? Man, she was a lot funnier there.
1080p, come on yo