Forza Motorsport vs Gran Turismo 7 Graphics, Physics, and FPS Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- We put Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo 7 through their paces as we dive deep into the graphics, and physical effects a player will feel on a direct drive wheel, and do some FPS testing on each. Both games were tested across several different tracks with various lighting and weather conditions. We also talked to real-world driver Super GT about his opinion on how the game feels to drive on a Fanatec steering wheel out of the gate while also asking for some tips to improve. Forza Motorsport vs Gran Turismo 7 framerate is also tested, but I think the results may be surprising to some.
A huge thanks to Super GT for stopping by. Check out his channel at / @super_gt @Super_GT
(0:00) Intro
(1:18) Graphics
(4:23) Physics
(6:21) Super GT Advice Part 1
(7:29) Framerate
(8:19) Super GT Advice to Improve
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Thanks for watching. I hope you like this deeper dive on the two games. -Destin
shut up
4:52 8 nanometre boost?? you mean 8 newton-metre.
Very well done. Never seen the bottle trick. For me though there is nothing like PSVR2-GT7 💟
This Comparison is void because Destin wont use 60fps 4k option.
In other words, now remaking the video in quality mode, the new Forza Motorsport shows that it is far ahead in quality compared to Gran Turismo 7, even though Gran Turismo 7 is used in replay mode, which is the only GT7 mode that uses Ray Tracing was no match for the new Forza, in the rain Forza proved to be a much better game (see the reflections and rain effects) the rain in Gran Turismo 7 is a shame, in clear weather too (see the effects of Ray Tracing), in The rest was a draw as seen in the video, this is because he still hasn't compared the effects of damage to the cars, which are excellent in the new Forza and practically non-existent in Gran Turismo 7 (a shame for GT7), and the details of the tracks that in Gt7 is all trees and 2D cardboard audience, while in Forza it's all in 3D!!!
Suzuka at night is downright scary on GT7, feels like you illegally broke into the track at 3am in the middle of zombie apocalypse or something.
That actually sounds interesting to me 😂 illegal racing in gt7 ME GUSTA
@@igsfs It would be an interesting backstory for a lights out time trials mode "Finish 3 laps and exit the track before the cops arrive and impound your car".
It's exhilarating and scary as hell lol I've been on that track multiple times and it's still scary
It's just a shitty game and a shitty outdated game engine
How is it scary
Thank you for having me on show guys 🤙
Scott Speed? Is it really you?
Happy to see you got featured here!
Hi super GT ❤
@@dos328hey Nijigasaki High School Idol Club fan, Super GT here.
@@snake1478963nope. Its Coco Hayashi.
Massive props for listening to viewer feedback and continuously improving. IGN gets its fair share of criticism, but this is to be celebrated.
Forza Motorsport 8 seemingly wins on car list ONLY.
@@purwantiallan5089nah it wins on pretty much everything.
@@TheBean87agreed
@@TheBean87 stop the cap
@@montvna where’s the cap, it’s already been proven time and time again.
These comparisons are great but don't let it distract you from the fact that the Wii U had a flawless wireless video stream to its Gampepad.
Wii is still lame
Lol 😂
😂
😂
Wii U wireless video stream was great but dont let it distract you from the fact that Bungee Gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum.
Imagine a Burnout remake with these graphics
Factssss
Basically need for speed unbound. Same developers.
@@FourzEllGamingsame developers can't make anything close to any of the Burnout game for some reason
No this is something we need.
@@fabolousjada5070big fact.
The Suzuka night time one is known because GT7 strangely only supports a fixed time of day transition based on existing endurance race events or circuit operating hours, and Suzuka is supposed to end just at sundown like a majority of their circuits, meaning there's still enough light in the sky compared to the track's lights for drivers to see.
If coupled with heavy clouds, especially with rain conditions like in this comparison, it really does get so dark that it looks like night time when it isn't, and the circuit lights aren't strong enough to support it.
This strange distinction is funny cause even Spa and Nurburgring technically don't support night time lighting unless you select their 24h variants and their circuit lighting is adjusted to present itself better for night driving.
Keep in mind for the vibration for the wheel, most performance/race cars have stiffer suspension so you would feel it more than a normal everyday car.
Exactly!!!!
If you take a road car to the track, the curbing will set off some cars airbags. So yeah, GT nailed it.
And the curbs on a racetrack are a bit rougher than in a mcdonalds car park
Forza: allows you to make use of the whole vibration dial
GT: Past the first half the vibration dial is useless, don’t even try
Personally, I’d credit Forza
@USAMALIK56 you do know the wheel can be adjusted to the game...
Ray-tracing on GT7 is only active during replays. There’s no RT during gameplay, even on RT mode.
And still looks and feels better 🙂
What's the difference between rt mode and non rt mode then? 😅
@@andresvalenzuela160it only applies to replays
Until PS5 Pro out.
@MrPascalnederland Feels better, sure. But looks better...are you blind?
Thanks for this video! Fun to see the comparison. Also love SuperGT and was shocked to see him in this video :D
So great to see SuperGT, he always puts out great content. Would have loved it if you asked for his opinion on the handling and physics model of the two games although they do aim for slightly different audiences.
Yesss! Not sure if Forza has the Nurburgring, but it would be nice to have a comparison between all 3 GT, Forza & real life!
@@seth462 It's crazy that Forza is missing Daytona, Monza, and the Nordschleife at launch lol like how are they not gonna have 3 of the most loved tracks in the world
@@callmen4yes and bathhurst. Atleast we know they are adding a few of those for free soon
brought out the heavy hitters. Big ups to Alex Albon!
Super Skinny Albon GT
😂
Great to see Mr “shadow realm” SuperGT! And great vid Dustin! Enjoying FM now but I’ve put lots of hours into GT7 too.
Rivals are great for improving as new ghost loads automatically- great feature to gain time
Wow, finally someone who listened to feedbacks and posted a video according to feedbacks, now finally its a great comparison now, can see both forza and gt got edge on different categories
Both platforms now have fantastic 'next-gen' looking motorsport games. There's some subjective creative differences between the two, but overall it's a win-win for whichever platform you play on :)
Forza Motorsport looks like a PS3 game
@@linusperssonsgamingchannel7354 ????????
@@linusperssonsgamingchannel7354you need glasses
@@linusperssonsgamingchannel7354and horizon 5 looks better than any gt game
@@linusperssonsgamingchannel7354spoken like an attention seeking troll
IGN intentionally curbrashes his car IRL just to illustrate a point. Respect.
yeah. Street curbs are completely different from race track curbs.
Great video Destin nice collab with Super GT.
4:05 does IGN know that GT7 runs at 60fps during driving regardless of the mode set?
Cause the RT mode is basically the same graphically.
For those who own both platforms and compatible wheels its a thorough and relevant comparison. For those who love VR: simply no contest. Its a mere footnote in this video but those who race in VR will know just how transformative the ecperience is.
Great job! This really was insightful
GT7 in PSVR2. Instantly got in love with that way to play GT7.
Yes 🙌🏻 biggest change in racing games for me PSVR2, having that depth perception with the wheel and no hud at all, complete game changer (for consoles).
Only way to play gt7.. normally would be bland
VR has No match.
Excellent job working to create the best video and comparison you can. Props.
Having a fanatec setup has changed gaming for these type of games for me. Whichever the side of the coin you fall on, get yourself a racing sim rig - some of the funnest gaming I've ever done. Bonus kudos if you put on a helmet and gloves while doing it.
What is the best for budget?
Just missing inertia 😂
The saturation of color on GT7 is really pretty to me. it "pops" a lot more.
No shadows and too life in the tracks make it seem like your racing on tracks while in a "28 Days later" world. Shadows and lighting make the difference. The sunbursts hit you just like they would in real life. This is a first year build of Forza, just wait til they tweak it. GT has had years to fix things and collisions and other details, but they keep making excuses. Fans of GT want these things too.
@@coreyharrell9079I dunno man, I’m extremely happy with GT7, especially with the vr2 and wheel. But I’ve been playing motorfest since the launch lol
More like MarioKart saturation
@@coreyharrell9079nothing is fixing those terrible car models in Forza.
I’m more interested to see how Forza looks maxed out on PC.
At 2:57 in the vid you have the GT7 heading at the top listed as 'Raytracing Mode'. GT7 has no RT during gameplay...so what is going on there exactly? Is that replay??
This is fantastic work guys. Great job
Gt7 VR got me into Sim racing
Yes indeed
Very well done. Never seen the bottle trick. For me though there is nothing like PSVR2-GT7 💟
💯 … Even without psvr2 this isn’t even a comparison
This x100.
@@JonathanSheeranits a damage control video for Forza more than anything. The largest omission is the difference in car models where GT7 has vastly more attention to detail. That said, Destin has an entire channel catered to Xbox super fans.
Cope and seethe boys...
@@dusermiginte4647please explain bot.
Nice video, but you can also get a blinding sunset at Le mans on GT7, it depends on the time of day.
I did not get that on my settings but good to know! That one is very close regardless. Both look amazing.
The Huayra in GT7 looks like a museum art piece in that time and weather.
You could say that about any Pagani in any time and weather anywhere :)
@@secretman7100 Fr but GT7 presents it like an untouched gift just for you.
The bottle should be a standar test!
Nice video!
Fantastic idea really
Forza = cinematic
GT7 = realism
Both are Great!
Great review. Been a while since ign was inbias
It’s fantastic that Alex albon has time to give feedback about forza to ign.
I'm a PS guy and a GT guy, but that motion blur and natural colours looking real sweet in Forza...
Fake
@@olavofernandes7286 you know neither of those games are the real thing right?
that rain in Forza wow 💦💦💦💦💦
Natural looking colors? Have you looked at a car outside in the sun? They don’t looked washed out like they do in Forza. That game has seriously weird stuff going on with it’s colors and contrast.
LOL everything is down to choice, but if there's one thing GT7 absolutely trumps Forza is the colours, lighting and HDR implementation. Forza cars look cartoony and with a plastic sheen. It's always been the problem with Forza, and exactly where GT excels, especially since GT Sport.
Thanks for the video. It was really interesting 👍
Destin is one of the only remaining IGN OGs and surprisingly has not gotten lazy or complacent. Still doing some of IGN's best work. Really one of last few or the only person who seems like they actually DO any work at that company.
if this guy is the best they got....lol.
Destin is a gem!
Some of the comments miss the fact that Forza has been out approximately 1 week - it will be interesting to see how it develops over its first year compared to GT7. It’s just a great time to be a motor racing fan whichever console you own
Yet GT7 is a cross gen game while FM8 is not so who does better?
I'll have to do a follow up!
@@ArielCleirigh availability on an older console doesn't mean the game is better by default. If anything it shows with the graphics being worse so the older console can keep up and the new ones get a lesser looking product than what could've been
I’m just patiently waiting for AC2
yea same, especially how GT put in microtransactions after reviews were posted. Hopefully, in a couple of weeks, devs will put in some default SIM settings.
The issue with me with GT, is that the car is just full stationed at the centre of the screen. You cannot feel any sense of speed at all but you can in Forza. The handling model works better for me too.
Switch your camera to the ground view. Why is anyone still playing in 3rd perspective in 2023?!
You're right. That's what's missing in gt7
Cambia la cámara con la de los relojes ,conta km,y revoluciones,yo siempre juego así y es brutal.
A parte la sensación de Forza es xq es más arcade ,tipo project cars 3
@@misiopuchatek152 Ground view as opposed to cockpit- nowhere near as immersive.
@@bookerdewitt2743 This Forza is more of a simulator than the GT7, both in driving sensations, in physics, in forcefeedback, to configure depending on each steering wheel, in the tire damage and wear system, in the sensation of speed, in the simulation itself
Hey Destin, I'm currently using the Logitech G920 as well and am considering switching to the Fanatec CLS DD 5 nm.
Would you recommend the change?
If you're super into it, Yes!
Destin you are a huge asset to IGN. You do some great thorough work 👍
There is no going back after GT7 in VR.
1000%
@@MIKEDRIFT10,000%
@@gamingjay141 40,000%
@@MIKEDRIFT120,000%
@@maru-chan3e457 hahahaha
Another solid Destin video. Nice work
You MUST try GT7 on PSVR2!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
Cranking the force feedback all the way can make it feel horrible. A force feedback wheel is like a speaker. If you crank it all the way up to 100 everything distorts and all the smaller sounds get lost. Eg you lose detail :)
Sounds like you need to listen to better speakers
But gt7 interiors are more detailed. You can look to the sides and also at the back and the car is fully modelled on the inside. You can indicate and flash your lights. You can turn on the handbrake and it shows up on the dash.
That's going to be dope when vr support is added
@@PyroGamieit’s already added in GT7
When you're focused on the track, racing with other players or AI, you're not going to be focused on those minute details. Keep in mind, FM did not have the same time for development as GT7 so I'm guessing thats where theyve made compromises.
@@jrecio19488 years between releases for FM, they used to do 1 every 2 years
@@jrecio1948forza had all the time in the world spent on development, what are you talking about? It even got delayed. The wheel to wheel racing and physics are still better in gt anyways
Great content, Destin!
You mean xbox channel Destin ? Woah who would’ve known he’d pick forza and say its better in every way but SuperGt the racing expert gave Forza a 7.5 and said its too heavy lol oh and let me guess forza has VR huh? Yeah that part 😅
Lol, he's an embarrassing ms fanboy
@@fabolousjada5070like the ps fanboi Dan reviewing Starfield giving it a 7/10..
@fabolousjada5070 not his fault Forza is better.
super gt is the man. thanks for the vid brother, lots of great info here. im having a great time with forza
I'd be curious if you or super gt have a recommended settings for game pad.
Man, if you can try GT7 in VR, this is by far the most important difference beteween both games. It’s other world.
But the graphics are very downgraded in vr
Doesn’t matter if the picture quality is lower. It’s like saying I’d rather watch a race on tv because the picture is really clear vs driving the actual race car where maybe your vision is slightly compromised because of vibration or something- but you are IN the car! It’s an incomparable experience on console at this point.
@@1984rockabilly Even assumimg that, the game looks and feels stunning in VR. Its dificult to figure It out without test it
you havent played it, obviously.@@1984rockabilly
@@1984rockabillyAnd the trade off is a level of presence and immersion that is unrivaled by anything you experience playing either game flat..
4:51 Nm is newton-metre not nanometre
Im a Forza fanboy , especially for drifting, but all those things are little to me, but the amount of detail and story put in gt7 somehow turned me into a motor vehicle enthusiast, im just obsessed with learning about all these cars and the story behind the manufacturers
gt is actually made by a massive car nerd. kazunori yamauchi did race cars himself in actual huge races and he is in the games industry since the early 90s at least.
@@99Lezard99 So is forza, you think the people making the game aren't massive car enthusiasts?
@@hannibalb8276 doesnt feel that way, doesnt look that way tbh.
did turn10 people participate in actual real 24h races for example? maybe read the bio of Yamauchi and come back.
@@hannibalb8276They just be yappin bro, dude prob just finished the movie
Gt7>froza ohrison
the Nm in the torque spec of the wheel podium, stands for Newton meter wich is a unit for torque, not nanometers jsjs
What is the ray tracing mode on GT? Replays, right?
the two consoles are so close in power, that it's always a question of rendering budget balance, if a game does something better, it has to do something else worse than the other and vice versa, then it's just a question of personal preference.
xbox series x is more powerful than the ps5
@@jasonbern5185on paper it is, but the PS5 unit as a whole including SDK's have arguably brought better performing and looking games to the fore than Xbox has to this point.
Xbox has apparently a 30% more powerful GPU on paper and full fledged RDNA2 features. If devs make use of it that's another thing.
@@Rooneysithmasternot really
@@khs511And when It will start running games 30% better than PS5? Ok, 20%? 10%? 5% maybe then?
on Gt cars looks more static, the camera shake on fortza is more imersive, you feel more the speed
That's because in Forza the cars move like they've got rear wheel steering and the back turns just as much as the front which is totally unrealistic
It’s crazy how you can still toss in graphics comparisons from Driveclub even today
True. Especially in the rain. The raindrop simulation on the windshield is still the best i've ever seen.
Though you made Isaac turn around in his grave, this right here is a comparison which was kinda waiting for. Thanks a lot.
What a fantastic comparison. Thank you for this very informative video guys!
Much better comparison, respect
Would love to hear how @Super_GT thinks about the 8 contact point system that Forza boasts, what difference does it make?
Amazing video 👍
It is important to highlight that Forza you can play with RT on, GT you can just watch the replays with RT on.
they already debunked this on Digital Foundry. Fake marketing like always. The same with downgrading the graphics. Forza doesnt have RT in realtime on tracks like you think it is
“RT”
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Not really.
The best way to experience RT properly is to play Forza on PC.
Raytracin mode only effects replays in gt7. so framerate mode during gameplay is the same as rt mode.
awesome and fair comeparison video.
Great work!
No one tops the effect in the rain in Driveclub even ten years later.
“ Effects “
Assetto Corsa with mods and the rain is a real effect, not only shaders.
@@irakmataalfonso8824 It actually rains in the room you're playing?
Even Forza Motorsport 7 had better rain effects than DriveClub, Project Cars 2 did as well. This Forza absolutely tops everything for weather
@@acurisur You're coping 🤣
1:38 The comparison is catastrophic in terms of fairness.
Of course lol why would u not compare both in ray tracing lol
Should be an detailed comparison but I'll wait for digital foundary to do that!
Digital Foundry just destroyed FM8 compared with 2022 trailer.
@@ArielCleirighOf course they did, only a blind person would not notice the massive downgrade in graphics compared to what was promised. People just quickly forget what they were promised and judge only what's there and that's a huge mistake that only a few remember to point out.
Both look absolutely spectacular
No. Only forza
@@Animik.Rahman.9 alright bro
@@Animik.Rahman.9Forza is definitely miles ahead.
@@Animik.Rahman.9 can't take photorealistic screenshots in Forza. Like many have done in GT7.
@@Qimchiy had to go look at these screenshots and tbr they look muddy.
I’m happy to say the both look fantastic I’m a massive lover of GT7 but tonight I’m downloading forza as Super GT is really enjoying the multiplayer so must be decent:)
That locked camera on GT7 makes it appear that the track is actually moving and the car is standing in place.
Yeah it's disgusting.
this was a great video!
Whoa! was not expecting SuperGT! That's fun.
Cross generation (PS4/PS5 vs ground up build (XSX) and it's pretty close. Imagine what Yamauchi can build on a PS5 only Gran Turismo.
GT7 looks on par with FM8 and it's only cross gen.. They are very close,basically identical.. Imagine what could be done on a GT8 only PS5 exclusive, it would mop the floor with Forza!
SuperGT Legend, got me into racing games
So we have again an actual gameplay VS a replay of the game?
Bro cars are the most important thing in a racing game and you didn't compare them looks and and car models wise
😂we already know the winner dw
@@prozayk5908yup forza obviously
@@noset6434You're kidding, right? Every car model in GT7 looks absolutely immaculate. FM cars look plasticky and many of them have completely wrong propotions due to outdated models. FM has its strengths (graphically) but car models is definitely not one of them.
Why did you keep the stiff rear camera in GT7?
You could have changed it in camera options!
wait, you can do that ?
@@vince207 Yes. The rear camera is stiff by default, but you can make it slightly turning right and left in camera options.
On the visuals front both look great. The biggest difference is the artistic style, if you're a fan of the over saturated colours that pop more then you will prefer GT7 more. If you don't care for that but actually like what can be said the more true to life colour palette then you will likely think Forza looks better.
Lets just enjoy the fact that both systems have a great Simcade racing game.
GT7 is photorealism. The type you'd find on Instagram with people taking photos with their expensive cameras.
FM8 is depressing reality with plastic hot wheels.
@@Qimchiy 🤣
@@Qimchiy No, it's not. The lighting in GT7is not even close to real life.
@@acurisur Face it. There's a short by Hubblesphere called "Gran Turismo 7 vs Real Life" where he went on track and took a picture of an FXX K and did the same in- game. He doesn't say which one is real life but you can clearly see that GT7 is photorealistic enough to go side by side with real life. You can't do that in Forza.
@@Qimchiy Fanboy 😂😂
GT has VR, so it's an automatic win for me. there's simply no other racing game that can compete with that on console. most immersive game ive played
VR was not a default feature in GT7, it was added only a few months ago via an update. Almost a whole year after its release.....FM launched only a couple weeks ago, and Turn 10 promised a ton of updates and content and features and tweaks. FM was planned to be a long term racing platform, that's why they dropped the number 8 and just called it Forza Motorsport. VR is expected to be added as well!
@@TooToo246doesn’t matter lol
@@TooToo246 GT7 at launch vs FM at launch isn't even a close battle
GT7 has VR though. A game changer.
Why are people finding it hard to compare these 2 games fairly
What do you mean?
Because Forza released full of bugs and with awful default settings
@@AcquireThe graphics arr also terrible compared to what was presented, they focused a lot on incredible graphics during their reveals and it barely matches GT7 which is almost 2 years old. I'd say they failed in their attempt to make better graphics and the downgrade is noticeable. There is also a lack of content, racetracks and modes. Just look at the review score on steam, nothing flattering.
@@adridell”graphics are terrible “ yea, your opinion is invalid
@@thirtythird985dude just take the e30 M3 and look at it on the track and then come back here
wait I'm confused. Doesn't GT7 only have RT in replays or did some new graphics modes get patched in? If not comparing using the replay would be giving GT7 even more credit than it deserves if you are comparing to actual real time graphics modes available in Forza.
Amazing review
Didn't talk about game/car physics whatsoever 😢
well let's be fair, IGN is a small company with almost no resources, can't expect such a thing from them.
Im GT7 hands down, no questions asked
4:50 Unit of torque is Nm (newton metre), not nanometre .
This is pretty cool and all but don’t let this distract you that Hector is gonna be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines.
On top of that, he just came into Harry’s and ordered three T66 turbos with NOS and a Motec system exhaust.
Visually, its clear Forza and GT are not even going for the same style of realism. GT's lighting looks more like HDR cinematic video, and Forza looks hazy but thats what real racing on-board cams look like. GT has better car models, and Forza has more track detail with flashier effects (dust, fog, rain) and better car damage and crash physics. Huge props for actually showing an irl example of steering feedback over curbs, and for inviting SuperGT.
Go play Forza….Nothing looks hazy about that game at all.
GT7 is very simulative and this helps me to understand how to best tune the car in anywhere tracks conditions.
Gt7 is not a simulator lol
Anyone know what steering wheel setup was used?
if driveclub make new series for next gen, it will be awesome for compete with this two game
Excellent video ign!!!
Interesting at 2:53, the wings on the Forza version move individually, whereas GT has them move at the same time, when in reality it is much more individual as shown in Forza.
In GT7 the flaps also move individually but the effect is dynamic depending on many variables, it is simply not seen in that brief part of the video. Look at how it works on the real Huayra, in fact the Forza implementation seems broken or over the top like most of the effects in that game.
3:38 “we ran at sunset for one reason, the blindingly gorgeous sunrise” 😂😅
This is actually amazing that they took feedback in the comments and updated it
Gt7 has 120hz mode
FM could do 120hz at 1440p as well but they chose 4k 60fps.
Not on launch for sure...
FM looks fantastic but the color and clarity of GT7 is superb
GT7 definitely wins color and contrast, but Forza takes it on lighting and reflections
@@jmccann6735i would say forza wins on tracks and gt7 on car models
@@marcelorrios8689 100%
@@jmccann6735Well yeah, reflections in GT7 are the weakpoint of the graphics. That said cars look much, MUCH better and do you really want the sunlight to blind you while you go into corner? GT is just clean.
That's my comment in the video!! Thanks for considering our feedback 👍
GT7 is called a driving simulator for a reason.