Why did my history teachers " Not " have this much ability and passion to teach when I was at school. Yet another stunning video telling truths so many others avoid. Thank you
Thank you so much for this amazing channel. In The U.S., the extent of our education of the Dutch experience in WWII is being quickly (it actually wasn't quick at all) overrun by the Nazis and the collapse of the Dutch in the far east. Obviously, none of this comes close to giving the full, rich picture of the Dutch in all theatres of the war. A channel like this really deserves a million subscribers. I'd just like to make one suggestion - I know you made a brief reference to the Dutch Famine of 1944-45 in an earlier video, but I think that chapter deserves a deeper dive video. I imagine the vast majority of people outside of the Netherlands has no idea that terrible famine killed tens of thousands in a Western European nation in the 20th century, and may have contributed to the actress Audrey Hepburn's lifelong health problems.
I'm one of the non-vast minority who does know. My parents had a book about an Australian airman who "food-bombed" the Netherlands. There were people on the ground waving at his plane, so he also threw out a piece of paper with his name and address on it. A Dutch girl found it and they ended up write to each other. They eventually met something like fifty years later. The book is called, "The Flying Grocer".
Sad actually. These days there are very good informative yt channels. With Dutch schools you have to be lucky, I'm afraid that history and geography no longer important on the curriculum.
Another Dutch unit that fought the Western Allies was SS-Wachbataillon 'Nordwest'. Just like Landstorm, the requirements were very low, and the men had barely any discipline / motivation to fight. Their first, and in some ways their last, fight was during Operation Market Garden in September 1944. The men had to fight against the elite British paratroopers, they didn't stand a chance. While some kept on fighting, most fled from the battlefield with the fact they didn't want to fight against the Western Allies, others were captured. Only ⅓ remained of Nordwest after Market Garden.
@@HistoryHustle very considering I consider myself to be a bit of a military history buff having visit battlefields all over the world and never knew about this. The area known most by locals is "De bommen koeter" which is local dialect for " de bommen kuilen" which were formed through extensive bombing of the Hasselt train station by the alies.
@@HistoryHustle I am in the USA and people say cusswords not necessarily out of anger. They just say them in they regular conversation. I try and not cuss.
Again a great video! Holland is almost never mentioned in Hollywood movies about WW2,and its role in WW2 is similarly overlooked here in the U.S. (and I expect elsewhere) generally. I'm also a collector of military miniatures ("toy soldiers") and I can assure you that the Dutch army in WW2 is simply NOT available from any company as far as I know; it's as if they never existed (and this despite the fact that the toy soldier business is currently enjoying an explosive boom period globally). Keep up the good work---Hou Zee!
very interest my friend.When i was in Arnhem many years ago,i was told of a little side `show` battle between members of the Free Dutch forces serving with the Allies and Dutch SS - `orange versus Black` it was dubbed,out side the town during market garden. Enjoyable series
This here is the exact history that I find AMAZING. Thanks for the content. I warched this video on break at work, and now again at home, worth two watches.
@@HistoryHustle just noticed the misspelling in my post, wow, trying to type too fast, and sending a misspelling to a teacher! there is a nightmare explained. lol
Greetings from here in the UK. My father served with the free Dutch forces based in England during WW2 in the Princess Irene Brigade. My father was born in London and my grandparents were Dutch immigrants to the USA and lived in Detroit in Michigan. When Germany invaded Holland my father went to Canada to enlist in the free Dutch forces and was sent to Willenhall near Wolverhampton in England and became a mechanised driver with the Princess Irene Brigade were they were based. My father went to Normandy in the 3rd wave after D Day with the regiment along with Canadian forces and fought through Europe to liberate Holland. The Princess Irene Brigade was the first Dutch unit in. My father remained with the Brigade after WW2 and was posted back to England and ended his service in London in 1953 and settled in Lytham St Anne's in Lancashire with my mother and my elder brother. My mother served in the Women's Auxiliary Air Force in WW2 and she married my father in 1942 in Wolverhampton. There is a cemetery in Wolverhampton which has many soldiers of the Princess Irene Brigade buried there and every year on 10th November a full military remembrance service is held there with representatives of the regiment coming over from Holland present as well as members of the Royal Air Force and British Army. I went to one of the remembrance parades in 2016 and my father's commanding officer from the Princess Irene Brigade was present. I have a photo of myself with two officers from the present day Brigade which is now a guards regiment in the Royal Netherlands Army. I am former Royal Air Force but also served in the Royal Navy and British Army. Thank you for posting this very interesting video and I have subscribed to your channel.
Hi history hustle great video as always could you review ww2 movies and give your opinion on what is accurate and what isn't. I watched 1917 the movie and a couple of things weren't accurate which most people had overlooked such as northern France having waterfalls and stormy rivers and the scene were the protagonist suddenly came across a British unit listening to a song when in reality such a thing would be impossible because they would have guards on duty everywhere. Thank you for your amazing work. Liebe Grüße aus Wien!
Some people may be wondering why the German invasion of the Netherlands wasn’t added to the list of war crimes during the Nuremberg Trials? Because the Germans simply weren’t the first to violate Dutch Neutrality. The Venlo Incident of November 1939, in which British Intelligence officers were captured by members of the Nazi Sicherheitsdienst, could be argued as one such violation (although there are military missions in all neutral countries whose job is to gather intelligence against the enemy as standard operating procedures). The indisputable violation of Dutch neutrality occurred when armed bombers of the RAF flew directly over Dutch territory to carry out missions over Germany. Many were propaganda missions, but neither the Germans nor the Dutch were given any details as to what the aircraft were actually carrying. Many missions were reconnaissance, an undeniable act of war at any rate. Then, in March 1940, the RAF launched a full fledged bombing mission on German territory, with their aircraft again violating Dutch airspace. The Dutch government protested of course, but clearly did not satisfy the Germans. The expectation was that Germany would likely violate Dutch airspace in kind. They of course took it to another level when they invaded the Netherlands in May 1940, but in this instance at least, it did not constitute a war crime.
I believe the Trials in Nuremberg were only the tip of the iceberg, since the Nazis had committed so many war crimes, it was probably impossible to judge all people guilty of such things.
"when they invaded the Netherlands in May 1940, but in this instance at least, it did not constitute a war crime." Really? Have a look at what happened during the Nazi invasion (without declaration of war) and the occupation lasting nearly five long years. Tip : google "Westerbork" "Jews" "Gipsies" ... and don't forget "Putten" (550 executed civilians ...)
@@KR-jt4ut Did you even bother to read what I previously wrote? Of course the Nazis committed multiple crimes while they were occupying the Netherlands as well as other countries during the Second World War, however, the war crime of violating the Netherlands neutrality wasn’t one of them, as the RAF had already done so, giving the Nazis the legitimate excuse (casus belli) to do so themselves.
@@MyLateralThawts The "Venlo Incident" (Nazi soldiers penetrating The Netherlands - violating its neutrality - to capture UK officers) was indeed used by Hitler to attack the Netherlands. You are following his philosophy. Great! And concerning "the RAF flying directly over Dutch territory to attack Nazi-Germany", this only started AFTER the Nazi's attacked/invaded The Netherlands. Before, the RAF only attacked Nazi ports such as Wilhelmshaven, Cuxhaven, Heligoland ... not flying over The Netherlands... The biggest crime of war ... is the starting of it. And Nazi-Germany started the war against neutral & peacefull countries such as The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Luxemburg, Yuogaslavia, Greece, Czechoslowakia ... always with an excuse (Heute Morgen haben wir zurück geschossen") , apparently still believed by people like you ... ps: ever heard about the "Vucht Incident"? A Luftwaffe Messchesmidt plane crashed in Belgium (yep, another neutral country) on January 10th 1940. The Nazi-soldiers inside had detailled plans about an invasion in Belgium and The Netherlands. They tried to destroy them, in vain ... Neutrality? Not really a German word...
@@KR-jt4ut you really don’t know your history do you? Dutch airspace was repeatedly violated by the RAF in order to conduct both reconnaissance and propaganda missions prior to May 10 1940. The RAF started dropping bombs on March 19th of that year. Bombs or not, the airspace was violated by the Allies first, meaning no war crime was committed when the Germans responded in kind ...including a ground invasion. Prior to that there was the Venlo incident. As a declared neutral nation, it was the responsibility of the Dutch security forces NOT to allow either warring nation to allow intelligence operations to be conducted from their soil. Least of all to cooperate with those foreign agencies. When Nazi agents lured the British agents to the Dutch border and captured them, it proved the Dutch were not adhering to their own stated position of neutrality. Since British agents were already on Dutch soil, German agents capturing them was not unlike capturing an enemy soldier on neutral territory that had already been violated. Do you understand now? I’m tired of stating what should be obvious. I have been warned in the past though to “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain
Its far and few that history channels show not only the allied axis and resistance but als the history on the darker pages of a nation. As sadly ever nation does have collaborators but its never talked about. no history can be complete if not all events and roles and sides are reviewed . A verry well done series and objective view. What i find fasinating about events is what led up to those events.
@@HistoryHustle Ps i just came across a wonderfull book its about the dutch naval doctrine /politcs and war of the dutch navy and east indies. Its called navalisme nekt de onderzeeboot. By Jaap Anten. A verry interesting book covering 1912 up til 1942.
@@HistoryHustle Its more the political side of the dutch defenses of dutch east indies. Also between de admirals and generals of different nations of abda having their own views. Iam personaly some one that likes to read up on all aspects to get total picture political. , industrial , thechnological inovations . arms industry etc etc. And i can say something interesting is going on in the 1910s between the dutch german goverments shipyards and companys. something that could and would have consequences for imperial germany if war didnt start in 1914. and weimar republic/3rd reich rearmaments. and Dutch reamament plans.
As you say the quality of the Landstorm varied. Elements of the Landstorm are reported as fighting the Canadians in March/April 1945 and a some even held out for a few days after the war ended
Dank. Dit is wat ik vond over deze 'cuffband': "Er bestaan op dit moment geen foto's van de manchetband op het uniform, maar meerdere veteranen bevestigden het bestaan ervan". Vertaald uit: Dutch Waffen-SS Legion & Brigade 1941-44 (Massimiliano Afiero) [Men-at-Arms 531], pagina 47.
as soon as you said 'some of them didn't want to go to the front, however, the front came to them' you gotta like from me, i know it is serious stuff but i can understand the impossible choices facing people back then
Thank you for your response. I have a whole playlist about Dutch Waffen-SS volunteers. In case you're interested: ruclips.net/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/видео.html
When you Google "Indo-Dutch member of SS Volunteer Grenadier-Brigade Landstorm Nederland" , click on images, you'll see a photograph of a man an so-called "Indo" in Dutch ( a non -white), of Dutch X Dutch East indies native descent , in a Landstorm uniform. ( The bloke "standing guard" holding the strap of his rifle with his right hand, wearing gloves. Having a "Wolfhaken" on his collar.) The man lost his life at Arnhem.
You forgot to mention II./SS.Rgt. Landstorm Nederland and was first deployed at Woensdrecht area under 719.ID, then south towards Antwerp and eastward. I./SS.Rgt.Landstorm was deployed south of Beringen(BE) area under 85.ID. and against Beringen itself later on. III./SS.Rgt.Landstorm was deployed at the Arnhem area under 9.SS.Hohenstaufen.Div. Some of Landstorm volunteered for MEK40, the German equivalent of the British Royal Marines Commandos. The first deployment of MEK40'Golla' in the night of 24 to 25th of Nov.1944 on Colijnsplaat turned into a debacle. Their Commander Cpt.Golla was KIA and Lt.I.Havelaar of the Prinses Irene Brigade too. Almost the entire German unit was taken prisoner. Later MEK40 in the Scheldt delta were however very successful. My Granddad belonged to the Orde Dienst-Tholen that became part of 9.Coy.Netherlands Interior Forces, Commando Brabant who had to face raids of them for 130 days. The pillbox complex next to theirs was raided at Stavenisse on March 5 1945. Al but 2 managed not to be captured, but one of the captured either died of wounds later on, or was executed. The other one was sent to a concentration camp at Hamburg, but was liberated 2 months later when the war ended. 2 or 4 former Dutch SS men Landstorm were KIA during the German MEK40 raid at the St. Philipsland Peninsula against 245.Bty.,RA. , 10.Coy./Netherl.Int.Forces,Cdo. Brabant en units of 1.Polish.Arm.Div. on 22 Jan. 1945. And 6 German Marines, 2 British (ao. the CO), 2 Poles (ao. the CO), 1 Dutch Storm trooper and one civilian too. 2 British and 1 Dutch Storm trooper were captured. The German report mentioned another POW, but Allied reports only mention 3. The location of graves of the found German Commandos (incl. the former SS men) are unknown. And it's unknown if there were more German casualties. Here is a German documentary about another MEK branche some 8 years ago ruclips.net/video/W3CRZeZycKU/видео.html
II./SS.Landstorm Nederland was on the 22nd of September 1944 deployed on the left flank of 719. ID. in Kampfgruppe KG.Müller south east of Reusel and did fight against 160.Bde./53rd Welch Division. But as this series is about the Resistance Group and their first elite opponent we didn't expand to that sector either. ruclips.net/video/aGtIPWjo2Xs2/видео.html4.09.1944 Taktische Gliederung der 719. Infanterie-Division 1.) Infanterie G.R.743 (ohne III.) F.E.B.1719 KG.Buchholz (Stabs-Sich.Rgt.35, Ls.Btl.484b mit 5 Komp., 1 Kp.Mar.Flak-Schule) KG.Stein (Rgt.Stab FL.Rgt.51 , ( Einheit Heimerdinger aus Heeres, Lw und RAD-Angehörigen, 3 Batl. mit insgesamt 11 Kompanien aus Angehörigen der Flieger-Rgt. 51 und 53) II./36 (M) Sich.Batl.772 ( 2./772, 8./484b, 6./861, 7./861 ) KG.Müller (II./SS-Nederland, Kp.Hinrichsen, Kp.Baumann) Fliegerhorst-Kp. 224/L 1/1201(M) 2.) Artillerie AR.1719 ohne 3. u. 6. Battr. [Stab. 1./A.R.347 mit 1. u. 4./A.R.347 und Battr. Förster] Flakartillerie: le.Flak-Abt.1080 (3., 4., 5./1080, 3./602, 3 Flakkampftrupp zu je 2 - 8,8 cm von 4./602 und 5./925) Panzerjäger-Abt. 719 mit 1./Pz.Jg.Kp. ohne 1 Zug und 3./Flak-Komp. ohne 1 Zug 3.) Nachrichten - Pionier, Nachschub-, Verwaltungs-, San-, Vet-Truppen, Feldgend. und Feldpost, wie bisher aus divisionseigenen Truppen gemäß Kriegsgliederung. Bei Sanitätstruppen zusätzlich San.-Komp. 347.
"as a former member of the SS he had the right to apply for german citizenship" Can you elaborate on that further or link am article that goes into detail on that?
It’s known as the Fuhrer-erlas if I’m correct. In 1943 hitler signed a law that men who fought for the German army they could apply for German citizenship (or which they would automatically receive for their service) I don’t know if this only extends for the Germanic volunteers, or for all volunteers.
@Thanos 6.0 just like the French foreign legion. The US did this to back in the 60’s with Larry Thorne (Lauri Thorni, if I’m correct) the soldier of three army’s.
It was a notion of "race" ...only if you were bellongs to "Germanic race" but the contex was vague : German abroad were considered as "volkdeutch" and many of them did not speack German ... Deuch were considered as pure nordic race ...and Nederland had to joint thé Reich very soon ...but the Real politic did not accept that ...
I recently watched a movie called "Riphagen" which is about the criminal of the same name,and,I was wondering how common it was for local dutch criminals to collaborate with the germans?
It kinda depends on how you look at it. Does "fighting for" equals the Dutch were all in favor of? I don't think so. If you compare the Dutch Waffen-SS volunteers (25,000) with the Princess Irene Brigade (1200 - 3500) then you're right. What about the Dutch soldiers that were moblized in May 1940 and saw action against the Germans? I'm aware some of these later joined the Waffen-SS. What about the Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (BS), Ordedienst (OD), Landelijke Knokploegen (LKP) and Raad van Verzet in het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden (RVV)?
I don't know where you found that members of the 'Landstorm Nederland' served as guards in Kamp Erika in Ommen, but this wasn't the case; I'm sorry. The other way around is more likely; men that served as guards in the Kontroll Kommando in Ommen, went on to serve in the SS-Wachbataillon 'Nordwest' (or later, the SS-Wachbataillon 3). The remnants of the Wachbatallion would become part of the 'Landstorm Nederland' during the later stages of the war, and performed terribly (for example at Arnhem) from a military standpoint. By this time, Kamp Erika was under the control of the Ordnungspolizei. Bikker was a member of the original Kontroll Kommando and later of the Wachgruppe Ommen. It was in this capacity that he 'earned' his nickname. His military career in the Waffen SS was short-lived (there are clues that he made it up) and was way before his time as a guard in Ommen. His case isn't probably the best example, but it shows how former Waffen SS men ended up in the repressive camp-system, but also how former camp-guards ended up as front line soldiers in the Waffen SS. It is true that members of 'Landstorm Nederland' served as an ad-hoc 'police unit', 'fighting' the resistance behind the front line. This late war drama took place in the northern provinces. Keep up the good work with the informational video's!
@@HistoryHustle My own archival research at NIOD archive, HCO archive and the CCO archive. Furthermore there's an excelent little book on Kamp Erika by Guusta Veldman; 'Knackers achter prikkeldraad' that takes you through the history of the camp. I've written an article on the camp, you can find it online in Dutch. Let me know if you like to know more.
i saw a video recenty ( house of history channel ) about the Dutch nazis prison break in 1952.. there were about a dozen i think. laws the nazis brought in that made citizens of "nordic" nations German citizens also were still in force in West Germany and the law forbade extradition ... totally nuts..
I was wondering how Nederland punished their collaborators (NSB, Waffen SS, OT, NSKK, DRK,...) maybe you already have a video about this. I would like to see or know the difference between "de repressie" in Belgium and the Netherlands
Very interesting, my grandfather was an NSBer then joined the WSS who moved to Germany after the wars end and then to South Africa. :D I was 5 years in the SADF in the 1980s upto to 1992 (South African Army Inteligence). As you said lots of old NSBers moved to Germany first, I met a few through my grandfather in SA, VL, NL & Germany. :)
@@HistoryHustle He was a member of the NSB WA, my grandmother saw the NSB as being a Dutch patriotic movement, he was not pro monarchy, My fathers parents both believed in the idea of the Greater Netherlands, a union with Flanders not with Germany. They were from Eindhoven, Northern Brabant, the Catholic South of the Netherlands & after the war they moved to Aachen over the German border. He was not pro or anti-Jewish, he said some Jews were ok, others were not. He said he often felt sorry for how the Dutch people were treated by the Germans as a Dutchman he wanted the Germans to go home. My feeling is he was swept along with things and felt powerless as he still supported the ideals of the NSB, but less so the German Nazis and had said he hoped that after the German victory things would return to normal and the Germans would start to leave the Netherlands and return home , but he said that even with a German Victory, the Dutch people would not have easily forgiven the NSB for its role in supporting the German occupation. The only problems he said he had with Anton Mussert was he felt he allowed himself to be too much a puppet of Hitler, and he was married to his own Aunt. :D His time with the W-SS. He often said they did as they were ordered, but would turn a blind eye to small transgressions when they could, but he also said things were far worse in the North of the Netherlands durring the German occupation for Dutch people and said many Dutch children starved and he felt regret that he could not have done more to protect them and how this was totally against the ideas of the NSB. What was once a movement of Patriots became little more than a movement of German collaborators. :( I would say very few NSB members wanted to become traitors who worked for the Germans rather than the good of the Dutch people, it just ended up that way. He liked the Germans as Germanic brothers & friends, but didnt want them as masters!!!
@@RedBatteryHead true if you know the man in the high castle show maybe it was like there situation like there war was over and they were forced who knows
On one hand, I admire the Dutch people that wanted a united Europe, on the other hand I despise a lot of them for their blatant crimes against humanity. My grandfather moved to Germany since his dad became a truck driver there. He had a really rough time when he had to walk back to the Netherlands with his mother and brother after they were "liberated". His father died in Germany due to a crash. He ended up in camp Westerbork with his mom and brother. when he was old we went there with the family, and he cried. I couldn't understand why since why would he be there during the war? We weren't Jews? Years later I found out he was there because he was considered a traitor. In the end Nazi Germany was horrible, but my great grandfather did what he thought was best for his family at the time. My grandfather later joined the Dutch navy, I think partially out of guilt and also because people knew his family were traitors. I know there where a lot of issues when he married my grandfather. In hindsight probably because his family had a reputation. I'm thankful that I never lived during those times, he must have had a tough time growing up and raising his family. My father found out years later, he never knew anything about this. He doesn't know I know and he is deeply ashamed that his father used to be a Nazi (Hitlerjugend).
The Dutch record is pretty decent but yeah some Dutch like Norwegians, Danes, etc really shat the bed. I've always wondered by the way about those few who eagerly served and ended up dead in Stalingrad or some hellhole like that. The mind boggles at the thought.
In fact hundreds of thousands of people with mixed Polish and German roots were forcefully conscripted into the Wehrmacht. Many defected to the Western allies after capture. Especially in the territories that belonged to the Russian and the Austro-Hungarian empire before 1917/18 ethnicities werent that clear cut and separated like in western europe. German names were all over the place among high ranking Polish military personnel in WW2 and the other way arround.
I have always wondered why the Germans didn't persecute these 'foreign SS' who apparently became german citizens. How these people were able to legally attain this, is also beyond me.
David, highly interesting content, and I am wondering if you ever heard of your countryman, Albert Folens? He is renowned for alleged gestapo affiliation and escaping justice after the war and subsequently given harbor in the Rep Ireland (much like many other wanted Nazi war criminals). To compound the state connivance, he was actually bestowed the Irish state school curriculum publishing rights, no less!! So, you can imagine the school history book lean, no doubt.
Cheers Dave Know a great deal more about them now cheers although must be an emotive subject really the other thing that was poignant about Dutchand German as Enemies then Comrades over the same Battlefield!! A very difficult situation for a young Dutchman to make the rght choices at the time!! You can perfectly well understand the motivation for survival and if that meant to eat..!! U aint got much choice in the matter but those that chose to Abuse and Torture their way through the population they were reprehensible I suggest that you check out prince Bernhardt as he comes out in all sorts of accusations comments and dodginess him suggesting the execution of prisoners is rather tongue in cheek as to where his loyalties lie!! An honouary ss officer but also wearing Allied uniform!!!
Not all, the popularity of the royals was and is great. Although a lot of SS’er were probably done with the monarchy after they fled to the UK in 1940. Biggest reason to join the Westland or Dutch voluntary legion was anti communism and/or believe in the national socialist cause.
Thank you for your Hustle . About HR Prince Bernhard he must have hurt the Nazis since in 1965 a left behind network, set up by H. Goring with approval of A. Hitler recruited based on their atrocities perpetuated in Birkenau, will try to abduct him in Belgium to have him tortured to death. To be able to do so his driver was poisoned and he will pass away in my arms in Mechelen were I lived at that time ( I was about 2.5 years old and still wearing diapers) . Prince Bernhard drove himself into safety while avoiding the check points set up to catch him, with the deceased driver in the boot of his car.
Why is that so shooking ...that Napoléon who made the concept of nationalism ... before him : nationalism did not exist ... nobles (officers)were fight for their king ( as officers) and the soldiers were just mercenaries (sold ...soldiers) ...why had a country man the duty to die for free ..no ...the soldiers was just payed for their job on thé battle field ...notion of honnor was made.only for knights ...officers ... nobles ... that change After the.french révolution soldiers for free ...officers non nobles ...
Learn more about non-Germans for the Axis Powers:
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hi first keep the video up!
@@Nothing71560 Yes!
Greetings from (Guess What) The Netherlands! 🇳🇱
Cool!
Why did my history teachers " Not " have this much ability and passion to teach when I was at school. Yet another stunning video telling truths so many others avoid. Thank you
Many thanks for your reply! Hope you enjoy the future content.
because probably your teacher only tell you he/she knows
Boggy These things happened in ANY country in the world in circumstances like this. Especially WW2. Only the Dutch are expicit about it.
Please make a video about Bernhard, de "Schavuit van Oranje". Not enough has been said about him in my oppinion. Great vid as always.
Haha, each year we learn new things about this "schavuit"!
Thank you so much for this amazing channel. In The U.S., the extent of our education of the Dutch experience in WWII is being quickly (it actually wasn't quick at all) overrun by the Nazis and the collapse of the Dutch in the far east. Obviously, none of this comes close to giving the full, rich picture of the Dutch in all theatres of the war. A channel like this really deserves a million subscribers.
I'd just like to make one suggestion - I know you made a brief reference to the Dutch Famine of 1944-45 in an earlier video, but I think that chapter deserves a deeper dive video. I imagine the vast majority of people outside of the Netherlands has no idea that terrible famine killed tens of thousands in a Western European nation in the 20th century, and may have contributed to the actress Audrey Hepburn's lifelong health problems.
Thanks for your reply. Feel free to share!
I think folks are more likely to know about Market Garden but its not taught properly how bad the famine got in the Netherlands
I'm one of the non-vast minority who does know. My parents had a book about an Australian airman who "food-bombed" the Netherlands. There were people on the ground waving at his plane, so he also threw out a piece of paper with his name and address on it. A Dutch girl found it and they ended up write to each other. They eventually met something like fifty years later. The book is called, "The Flying Grocer".
Admirable honesty in communicating history is always to be admired,no one can find it easy to point out the crimes of their own countrymen.
Thank you for replying!
@@HistoryHustle Your very welcome.
The British King George VI said about him: "Of all the people I know, Prince Bernhard was the only one who enjoyed the war".
A weird fella this Bernhard...
Apparently he didn't know Mad Jack Churchill!
He sure did.
The fun fact is, I have learned more from you then from my teacher about the Netherlands
I consider that a compliment, many thanks!
Sad actually. These days there are very good informative yt channels. With Dutch schools you have to be lucky, I'm afraid that history and geography no longer important on the curriculum.
@@schepvogelk5971 so true. like i knew more about ww2 then my teachers lol.
Except the difference between 'then' and 'than'.
@@greg143 in the netherlands we call people like u, taalnazi s ,
Interesting video topic. This was another great video History Hustle! I really enjoy your foreign ss videos.
Thanks for your reply!
Another Dutch unit that fought the Western Allies was SS-Wachbataillon 'Nordwest'. Just like Landstorm, the requirements were very low, and the men had barely any discipline / motivation to fight. Their first, and in some ways their last, fight was during Operation Market Garden in September 1944. The men had to fight against the elite British paratroopers, they didn't stand a chance. While some kept on fighting, most fled from the battlefield with the fact they didn't want to fight against the Western Allies, others were captured.
Only ⅓ remained of Nordwest after Market Garden.
Thanks for sharing. As far as I know it was incorporated in the Landstorm and counted some 600 men. Ukrainians also served with them.
Good job again Stefan, always interesting to learn about these less known formations.
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Thanks for the video, I lived in Hasselt for over 40 years and never knew there was a Dutch vs Dutch battle there.
Thanks for your reply! Glad you found it interesting.
@@HistoryHustle very considering I consider myself to be a bit of a military history buff having visit battlefields all over the world and never knew about this. The area known most by locals is "De bommen koeter" which is local dialect for " de bommen kuilen" which were formed through extensive bombing of the Hasselt train station by the alies.
Interesting! Go for it.
“They did not want to go to the front. But, guess what: The front came to them!”
This describes this whole fucking war.
Thank you!
Can't understand the anger here..
@@HistoryHustle Not anger, just an expression. English is not my native language. Thank you!
I see.
@@HistoryHustle I am in the USA and people say cusswords not necessarily out of anger. They just say them in they regular conversation. I try and not cuss.
Again a great video! Holland is almost never mentioned in Hollywood movies about WW2,and its role in WW2 is similarly overlooked here in the U.S. (and I expect elsewhere) generally. I'm also a collector of military miniatures ("toy soldiers") and I can assure you that the Dutch army in WW2 is simply NOT available from any company as far as I know; it's as if they never existed (and this despite the fact that the toy soldier business is currently enjoying an explosive boom period globally). Keep up the good work---Hou Zee!
Thanks for your reply. I case you interested, here is my video about the Dutch 1940 army:
ruclips.net/video/-esy4KKhpdo/видео.html
Impressive and detailed hustle.
War brings out the worst in people.
Indeed. Thanks for your reply.
Thanks for your time and research. Great topic & coverage
Thank you, Keith!
Makes for a perfect Saturday morning!!
Thanks again!
Thanks for your reply!
very interest my friend.When i was in Arnhem many years ago,i was told of a little side `show` battle between members of the Free Dutch forces serving with the Allies and Dutch SS - `orange versus Black` it was dubbed,out side the town during market garden. Enjoyable series
Thanks for sharing.
This here is the exact history that I find AMAZING. Thanks for the content. I warched this video on break at work, and now again at home, worth two watches.
Many thanks for your reply 👍
@@HistoryHustle just noticed the misspelling in my post, wow, trying to type too fast, and sending a misspelling to a teacher! there is a nightmare explained. lol
Haha no problem.
Weer quality content 👌
Reclame pas op het eind! 💯
Die video over prins Berhard moet er echt komen! 💥
Inderdaad en dan graag ook de sappige details (vreemd gaan, verboden reis in zuid Amerika, stadhoudersbrief etc)
Bernhard, rasopportunist pur sang!
Dank voor je reactie.
Highly interesting video. I'm also loving the content!
Thanks for your reply!
Really nice channel, I'll have to work my way through it all.
There's much content yes. Thanks for your reply.
Interessante Video 👍🏻
Dank voor je reactie 👍
Each SS.Rgt. 'Landstorm Nederland' consisted of one heavy Coy. with 6x 3.7cm PAK and 3 bicycle (2+3 2cm) mortar teams.
Another very interesting video. Excellent.
Thanks, Steve!
Excellent lecture, Professor
Thanks for your reply!
Thanks for the video well done piece of tragic history
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Great hustle again
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Another great video, thank you 👍
Thanks!
Great episode as always history hustle ✌🏻
Thanks!
Datwaseenheelsnelvoorstelrondje,Stefan ;-)
Another great informative vid sir!
Greets, T.
Many thanks 👍
Огромное спасибо !!!!! Bedankt voor Uw werk!
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interesting I always thought the foreign volunteers were sent to the east thanks for another good video 😊👍
Thanks for your reply!
Greetings from here in the UK. My father served with the free Dutch forces based in England during WW2 in the Princess Irene Brigade. My father was born in London and my grandparents were Dutch immigrants to the USA and lived in Detroit in Michigan. When Germany invaded Holland my father went to Canada to enlist in the free Dutch forces and was sent to Willenhall near Wolverhampton in England and became a mechanised driver with the Princess Irene Brigade were they were based. My father went to Normandy in the 3rd wave after D Day with the regiment along with Canadian forces and fought through Europe to liberate Holland. The Princess Irene Brigade was the first Dutch unit in.
My father remained with the Brigade after WW2 and was posted back to England and ended his service in London in 1953 and settled in Lytham St Anne's in Lancashire with my mother and my elder brother. My mother served in the Women's Auxiliary Air Force in WW2 and she married my father in 1942 in Wolverhampton. There is a cemetery in Wolverhampton which has many soldiers of the Princess Irene Brigade buried there and every year on 10th November a full military remembrance service is held there with representatives of the regiment coming over from Holland present as well as members of the Royal Air Force and British Army. I went to one of the remembrance parades in 2016 and my father's commanding officer from the Princess Irene Brigade was present. I have a photo of myself with two officers from the present day Brigade which is now a guards regiment in the Royal Netherlands Army. I am former Royal Air Force but also served in the Royal Navy and British Army.
Thank you for posting this very interesting video and I have subscribed to your channel.
Respect to you and your family, Ednam. Warm welcome on the channel (sorry for my late reply) and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Fascinating story, ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ as always. Looking forward to the episode where we find out if they are ever brought to justice
Yes that one will be made also.
@@HistoryHustle looking forward ✌️
Wederom topvideo, intressant hoe verweven Nederlanders in de strijd betrokken waren. Respect vd video en kennis
Dank voor je reactie!
Goede upload. Ook erbij verteld dat ze hebben gevochten bij Arnhem. Dat heeft Lou de Jong altijd ontkend.
Dank voor je bericht. Wist dat niet van De Jong. Overigens waren het maar relatief weinig Nederlanders die er streden aan Duitse kant.
Mooie video man
Bedankt, Cas!
Another interesting if appalling subject, well presented.
Thanks for your reply!
Hi history hustle great video as always could you review ww2 movies and give your opinion on what is accurate and what isn't. I watched 1917 the movie and a couple of things weren't accurate which most people had overlooked such as northern France having waterfalls and stormy rivers and the scene were the protagonist suddenly came across a British unit listening to a song when in reality such a thing would be impossible because they would have guards on duty everywhere. Thank you for your amazing work. Liebe Grüße aus Wien!
I have seen 1917, but I'm not knowledgable about French geography. So I can't tell.
Very informative, as usual, thank. Question slighlty off topic...What sort is the Leather Cartridge Belt on the manaquin @0.45 please.
Thanks for your reply. It's Swedish. That's all I know.
@@HistoryHustle Thanks.
hi History Hustle love the content!
Thanks 👍
Some people may be wondering why the German invasion of the Netherlands wasn’t added to the list of war crimes during the Nuremberg Trials? Because the Germans simply weren’t the first to violate Dutch Neutrality. The Venlo Incident of November 1939, in which British Intelligence officers were captured by members of the Nazi Sicherheitsdienst, could be argued as one such violation (although there are military missions in all neutral countries whose job is to gather intelligence against the enemy as standard operating procedures). The indisputable violation of Dutch neutrality occurred when armed bombers of the RAF flew directly over Dutch territory to carry out missions over Germany. Many were propaganda missions, but neither the Germans nor the Dutch were given any details as to what the aircraft were actually carrying. Many missions were reconnaissance, an undeniable act of war at any rate. Then, in March 1940, the RAF launched a full fledged bombing mission on German territory, with their aircraft again violating Dutch airspace. The Dutch government protested of course, but clearly did not satisfy the Germans. The expectation was that Germany would likely violate Dutch airspace in kind. They of course took it to another level when they invaded the Netherlands in May 1940, but in this instance at least, it did not constitute a war crime.
I believe the Trials in Nuremberg were only the tip of the iceberg, since the Nazis had committed so many war crimes, it was probably impossible to judge all people guilty of such things.
"when they invaded the Netherlands in May 1940, but in this instance at least, it did not constitute a war crime." Really? Have a look at what happened during the Nazi invasion (without declaration of war) and the occupation lasting nearly five long years. Tip : google "Westerbork" "Jews" "Gipsies" ... and don't forget "Putten" (550 executed civilians ...)
@@KR-jt4ut Did you even bother to read what I previously wrote? Of course the Nazis committed multiple crimes while they were occupying the Netherlands as well as other countries during the Second World War, however, the war crime of violating the Netherlands neutrality wasn’t one of them, as the RAF had already done so, giving the Nazis the legitimate excuse (casus belli) to do so themselves.
@@MyLateralThawts The "Venlo Incident" (Nazi soldiers penetrating The Netherlands - violating its neutrality - to capture UK officers) was indeed used by Hitler to attack the Netherlands. You are following his philosophy. Great! And concerning "the RAF flying directly over Dutch territory to attack Nazi-Germany", this only started AFTER the Nazi's attacked/invaded The Netherlands. Before, the RAF only attacked Nazi ports such as Wilhelmshaven, Cuxhaven, Heligoland ... not flying over The Netherlands... The biggest crime of war ... is the starting of it. And Nazi-Germany started the war against neutral & peacefull countries such as The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Luxemburg, Yuogaslavia, Greece, Czechoslowakia ... always with an excuse (Heute Morgen haben wir zurück geschossen") , apparently still believed by people like you ... ps: ever heard about the "Vucht Incident"? A Luftwaffe Messchesmidt plane crashed in Belgium (yep, another neutral country) on January 10th 1940. The Nazi-soldiers inside had detailled plans about an invasion in Belgium and The Netherlands. They tried to destroy them, in vain ... Neutrality? Not really a German word...
@@KR-jt4ut you really don’t know your history do you? Dutch airspace was repeatedly violated by the RAF in order to conduct both reconnaissance and propaganda missions prior to May 10 1940. The RAF started dropping bombs on March 19th of that year. Bombs or not, the airspace was violated by the Allies first, meaning no war crime was committed when the Germans responded in kind ...including a ground invasion. Prior to that there was the Venlo incident. As a declared neutral nation, it was the responsibility of the Dutch security forces NOT to allow either warring nation to allow intelligence operations to be conducted from their soil. Least of all to cooperate with those foreign agencies. When Nazi agents lured the British agents to the Dutch border and captured them, it proved the Dutch were not adhering to their own stated position of neutrality. Since British agents were already on Dutch soil, German agents capturing them was not unlike capturing an enemy soldier on neutral territory that had already been violated. Do you understand now? I’m tired of stating what should be obvious. I have been warned in the past though to “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain
Great video
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Stefan have you covered Denmark contribution to the SS
Not yet but I have a video sceduled.
Thank you
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Its far and few that history channels show not only the allied axis and resistance but als the history on the darker pages of a nation. As sadly ever nation does have collaborators but its never talked about. no history can be complete if not all events and roles and sides are reviewed .
A verry well done series and objective view.
What i find fasinating about events is what led up to those events.
Many thanks for your reply.
@@HistoryHustle Ps i just came across a wonderfull book its about the dutch naval doctrine /politcs and war of the dutch navy and east indies.
Its called
navalisme nekt de onderzeeboot.
By Jaap Anten.
A verry interesting book covering 1912 up til 1942.
Thanks. Not a big navy guy here but perhaps one day I will look into it.
@@HistoryHustle Its more the political side of the dutch defenses of dutch east indies.
Also between de admirals and generals of different nations of abda having their own views.
Iam personaly some one that likes to read up on all aspects to get total picture political. , industrial , thechnological inovations . arms industry etc etc.
And i can say something interesting is going on in the 1910s between the dutch german goverments shipyards and companys. something that could and would have consequences for imperial germany if war didnt start in 1914. and weimar republic/3rd reich rearmaments. and Dutch reamament plans.
As you say the quality of the Landstorm varied. Elements of the Landstorm are reported as fighting the Canadians in March/April 1945 and a some even held out for a few days after the war ended
I've read that too. Perhaps something for specific WW2 battle I'd cover on location.
@@HistoryHustle So many stories, so little time..........
This series is fantastic. BZ.
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I remember Alex in Soldier of Orange. Saw that movie when it premiered, in Den Haag.
Back in the late 70s that was? Cool!
@@HistoryHustle 1973 The crowd got very patriotic.
@@HistoryHustle
'76, now that I think about it
Hi, kun je mij meer vertellen over de cufftitle 'De Ruiter'? Was dit een Nederlandse eenheid in de SS of gemaakt voor een persoon?
Leuke video's btw.
Dank. Dit is wat ik vond over deze 'cuffband':
"Er bestaan op dit moment geen foto's van de manchetband op het uniform, maar meerdere veteranen bevestigden het bestaan ervan".
Vertaald uit: Dutch Waffen-SS Legion & Brigade 1941-44 (Massimiliano Afiero) [Men-at-Arms 531], pagina 47.
@@HistoryHustle Bedankt voor je reactie. Heet zelf de Ruiter vandaar de interesse😉
as soon as you said 'some of them didn't want to go to the front, however, the front came to them' you gotta like from me, i know it is serious stuff but i can understand the impossible choices facing people back then
Thank you for your response. I have a whole playlist about Dutch Waffen-SS volunteers. In case you're interested:
ruclips.net/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/видео.html
When you Google "Indo-Dutch member of SS Volunteer Grenadier-Brigade Landstorm Nederland" , click on images, you'll see a photograph of a man an so-called "Indo" in Dutch ( a non -white), of Dutch X Dutch East indies native descent , in a Landstorm uniform. ( The bloke "standing guard" holding the strap of his rifle with his right hand, wearing gloves. Having a "Wolfhaken" on his collar.) The man lost his life at Arnhem.
I am aware of this photo. Didn't know he was killed in Arnhem. Thanks for sharing.
Will you tell about Kaiser living in Dutch after WW1 with security by some WH units sir?
Perhaps one time, can't tell when.
You forgot to mention II./SS.Rgt. Landstorm Nederland and was first deployed at Woensdrecht area under 719.ID, then south towards Antwerp and eastward.
I./SS.Rgt.Landstorm was deployed south of Beringen(BE) area under 85.ID. and against Beringen itself later on.
III./SS.Rgt.Landstorm was deployed at the Arnhem area under 9.SS.Hohenstaufen.Div.
Some of Landstorm volunteered for MEK40, the German equivalent of the British Royal Marines Commandos.
The first deployment of MEK40'Golla' in the night of 24 to 25th of Nov.1944 on Colijnsplaat turned into a debacle.
Their Commander Cpt.Golla was KIA and Lt.I.Havelaar of the Prinses Irene Brigade too.
Almost the entire German unit was taken prisoner.
Later MEK40 in the Scheldt delta were however very successful.
My Granddad belonged to the Orde Dienst-Tholen that became part of 9.Coy.Netherlands Interior Forces, Commando Brabant who had to face raids of them for 130 days.
The pillbox complex next to theirs was raided at Stavenisse on March 5 1945.
Al but 2 managed not to be captured, but one of the captured either died of wounds later on, or was executed.
The other one was sent to a concentration camp at Hamburg, but was liberated 2 months later when the war ended.
2 or 4 former Dutch SS men Landstorm were KIA during the German MEK40 raid at the St. Philipsland Peninsula against 245.Bty.,RA. , 10.Coy./Netherl.Int.Forces,Cdo. Brabant en units of 1.Polish.Arm.Div. on 22 Jan. 1945.
And 6 German Marines, 2 British (ao. the CO), 2 Poles (ao. the CO), 1 Dutch Storm trooper and one civilian too.
2 British and 1 Dutch Storm trooper were captured.
The German report mentioned another POW, but Allied reports only mention 3.
The location of graves of the found German Commandos (incl. the former SS men) are unknown.
And it's unknown if there were more German casualties.
Here is a German documentary about another MEK branche some 8 years ago ruclips.net/video/W3CRZeZycKU/видео.html
Lot of copy paste here. But thanks.
II./SS.Landstorm Nederland was on the 22nd of September 1944 deployed on the left flank of 719. ID. in Kampfgruppe KG.Müller south east of Reusel and did fight against 160.Bde./53rd Welch Division.
But as this series is about the Resistance Group and their first elite opponent we didn't expand to that sector either.
ruclips.net/video/aGtIPWjo2Xs2/видео.html4.09.1944
Taktische Gliederung der 719. Infanterie-Division
1.) Infanterie
G.R.743 (ohne III.)
F.E.B.1719
KG.Buchholz (Stabs-Sich.Rgt.35, Ls.Btl.484b mit 5 Komp., 1 Kp.Mar.Flak-Schule)
KG.Stein (Rgt.Stab FL.Rgt.51 , ( Einheit Heimerdinger aus Heeres, Lw und RAD-Angehörigen,
3 Batl. mit insgesamt 11 Kompanien aus Angehörigen der Flieger-Rgt. 51 und 53)
II./36 (M)
Sich.Batl.772 ( 2./772, 8./484b, 6./861, 7./861 )
KG.Müller (II./SS-Nederland, Kp.Hinrichsen, Kp.Baumann)
Fliegerhorst-Kp. 224/L
1/1201(M)
2.) Artillerie
AR.1719 ohne 3. u. 6. Battr.
[Stab. 1./A.R.347 mit 1. u. 4./A.R.347 und Battr. Förster]
Flakartillerie:
le.Flak-Abt.1080 (3., 4., 5./1080, 3./602, 3 Flakkampftrupp zu je 2 - 8,8 cm von 4./602 und 5./925)
Panzerjäger-Abt. 719 mit 1./Pz.Jg.Kp. ohne 1 Zug und 3./Flak-Komp. ohne 1 Zug
3.) Nachrichten - Pionier, Nachschub-, Verwaltungs-, San-, Vet-Truppen, Feldgend. und Feldpost, wie bisher aus divisionseigenen Truppen gemäß Kriegsgliederung. Bei Sanitätstruppen zusätzlich San.-Komp. 347.
"as a former member of the SS he had the right to apply for german citizenship"
Can you elaborate on that further or link am article that goes into detail on that?
It’s known as the Fuhrer-erlas if I’m correct. In 1943 hitler signed a law that men who fought for the German army they could apply for German citizenship (or which they would automatically receive for their service) I don’t know if this only extends for the Germanic volunteers, or for all volunteers.
@Thanos 6.0 just like the French foreign legion. The US did this to back in the 60’s with Larry Thorne (Lauri Thorni, if I’m correct) the soldier of three army’s.
It was a notion of "race" ...only if you were bellongs to "Germanic race" but the contex was vague : German abroad were considered as "volkdeutch" and many of them did not speack German ... Deuch were considered as pure nordic race ...and Nederland had to joint thé Reich very soon ...but the Real politic did not accept that ...
Another RUclipsr does a great job in explaining this:
ruclips.net/video/UpvWnkyW5ys/видео.html
1:53. The guy with glasses is so funny.
Hahaha, I didn't notice him at first. What a guy!
He kinda looks like Beria in his 60s
But nicere!
Hello long time no comment, but I am back
Welcome back!
I recently watched a movie called "Riphagen" which is about the criminal of the same name,and,I was wondering how common it was for local dutch criminals to collaborate with the germans?
Can't tell yet. I have seen the movie and was impressed by it.
I read years ago that more Dutchman wore feldgrau in WW2 rather than the brown khaki...
It kinda depends on how you look at it. Does "fighting for" equals the Dutch were all in favor of? I don't think so. If you compare the Dutch Waffen-SS volunteers (25,000) with the Princess Irene Brigade (1200 - 3500) then you're right. What about the Dutch soldiers that were moblized in May 1940 and saw action against the Germans? I'm aware some of these later joined the Waffen-SS. What about the Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (BS), Ordedienst (OD), Landelijke Knokploegen (LKP) and Raad van Verzet in het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden (RVV)?
@@HistoryHustle Jew-haters, every god-damned one of them.
Perhaps check out this video
ruclips.net/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/видео.html
I don't know where you found that members of the 'Landstorm Nederland' served as guards in Kamp Erika in Ommen, but this wasn't the case; I'm sorry.
The other way around is more likely; men that served as guards in the Kontroll Kommando in Ommen, went on to serve in the SS-Wachbataillon 'Nordwest' (or later, the SS-Wachbataillon 3). The remnants of the Wachbatallion would become part of the 'Landstorm Nederland' during the later stages of the war, and performed terribly (for example at Arnhem) from a military standpoint. By this time, Kamp Erika was under the control of the Ordnungspolizei.
Bikker was a member of the original Kontroll Kommando and later of the Wachgruppe Ommen. It was in this capacity that he 'earned' his nickname. His military career in the Waffen SS was short-lived (there are clues that he made it up) and was way before his time as a guard in Ommen. His case isn't probably the best example, but it shows how former Waffen SS men ended up in the repressive camp-system, but also how former camp-guards ended up as front line soldiers in the Waffen SS.
It is true that members of 'Landstorm Nederland' served as an ad-hoc 'police unit', 'fighting' the resistance behind the front line. This late war drama took place in the northern provinces.
Keep up the good work with the informational video's!
Lemme know your source on this.
@@HistoryHustle My own archival research at NIOD archive, HCO archive and the CCO archive. Furthermore there's an excelent little book on Kamp Erika by Guusta Veldman; 'Knackers achter prikkeldraad' that takes you through the history of the camp. I've written an article on the camp, you can find it online in Dutch. Let me know if you like to know more.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I did Read something else in my book but archive research has the upper hand.
i saw a video recenty ( house of history channel ) about the Dutch nazis prison break in 1952.. there were about a dozen i think. laws the nazis brought in that made citizens of "nordic" nations German citizens also were still in force in West Germany and the law forbade extradition ... totally nuts..
Yes, indeed. Great video that it!
@@HistoryHustle great video but the presenter doesn't have your charisma! :)
I'd be very interested in a Dutch perspective on Bernhardt.
Yes, perhaps in the future.
Will you be doing a video on italian volunteers?
One day. Can't tell when.
I was wondering how Nederland punished their collaborators (NSB, Waffen SS, OT, NSKK, DRK,...) maybe you already have a video about this. I would like to see or know the difference between "de repressie" in Belgium and the Netherlands
Next video, which will not come out soon since I have other projects to deal with first.
Do you know were the clip from 2:04 is from? It looks like Venlo but im not so sure
Don't know, sorry.
@@HistoryHustle oh okay no problem
I have a Landsturm tagged Husqvarna revolver in I believe 7.62 x 25.
Interesting!
Very interesting, my grandfather was an NSBer then joined the WSS who moved to Germany after the wars end and then to South Africa. :D I was 5 years in the SADF in the 1980s upto to 1992 (South African Army Inteligence). As you said lots of old NSBers moved to Germany first, I met a few through my grandfather in SA, VL, NL & Germany. :)
Interesting to read. What can you tell us about his experiences? How did he reflect on his war time?
@@HistoryHustle He was a member of the NSB WA, my grandmother saw the NSB as being a Dutch patriotic movement, he was not pro monarchy, My fathers parents both believed in the idea of the Greater Netherlands, a union with Flanders not with Germany. They were from Eindhoven, Northern Brabant, the Catholic South of the Netherlands & after the war they moved to Aachen over the German border. He was not pro or anti-Jewish, he said some Jews were ok, others were not. He said he often felt sorry for how the Dutch people were treated by the Germans as a Dutchman he wanted the Germans to go home. My feeling is he was swept along with things and felt powerless as he still supported the ideals of the NSB, but less so the German Nazis and had said he hoped that after the German victory things would return to normal and the Germans would start to leave the Netherlands and return home , but he said that even with a German Victory, the Dutch people would not have easily forgiven the NSB for its role in supporting the German occupation. The only problems he said he had with Anton Mussert was he felt he allowed himself to be too much a puppet of Hitler, and he was married to his own Aunt. :D His time with the W-SS. He often said they did as they were ordered, but would turn a blind eye to small transgressions when they could, but he also said things were far worse in the North of the Netherlands durring the German occupation for Dutch people and said many Dutch children starved and he felt regret that he could not have done more to protect them and how this was totally against the ideas of the NSB. What was once a movement of Patriots became little more than a movement of German collaborators. :( I would say very few NSB members wanted to become traitors who worked for the Germans rather than the good of the Dutch people, it just ended up that way. He liked the Germans as Germanic brothers & friends, but didnt want them as masters!!!
@@HistoryHustle You have a great channel by the way, very interesting
We need a video about the Georgien legion.
Man, you should look first and discover there already is one
ruclips.net/video/yEAPyIweGpg/видео.html
@@HistoryHustle ooh shit my bad.
No problem.
I’m wondering what do you think of the Netherland people who fought for the Germans?
@Piet Hein our covernment betrayed the country. Leaving the population to their own means of survival.
@Piet Hein yea I thought that but I was wondering if you guys somehow found a way to like live with it like “they thought they had to” or something
@@fishboymbb I think not every choice was black or white. There was a lot of grey too.
@@RedBatteryHead true if you know the man in the high castle show maybe it was like there situation like there war was over and they were forced who knows
In the Netherlands there're seen as triators. Later studies did nuance a very tiny little bit, but that's all.
Please do make a well researched video on Prins Bernhard,
He makes for interesting history material..
Perhaps one day.
this is nice
Thanks for your reply!
On one hand, I admire the Dutch people that wanted a united Europe, on the other hand I despise a lot of them for their blatant crimes against humanity. My grandfather moved to Germany since his dad became a truck driver there. He had a really rough time when he had to walk back to the Netherlands with his mother and brother after they were "liberated". His father died in Germany due to a crash. He ended up in camp Westerbork with his mom and brother. when he was old we went there with the family, and he cried. I couldn't understand why since why would he be there during the war? We weren't Jews? Years later I found out he was there because he was considered a traitor.
In the end Nazi Germany was horrible, but my great grandfather did what he thought was best for his family at the time.
My grandfather later joined the Dutch navy, I think partially out of guilt and also because people knew his family were traitors. I know there where a lot of issues when he married my grandfather. In hindsight probably because his family had a reputation. I'm thankful that I never lived during those times, he must have had a tough time growing up and raising his family.
My father found out years later, he never knew anything about this. He doesn't know I know and he is deeply ashamed that his father used to be a Nazi (Hitlerjugend).
Thanks for sharing this.
My brother love it!
Great!
WI you do topic about dutch ss fighting in Indonesia and Korea?
Yes, at the end of the series so it'll take at least a few months or so.
@@HistoryHustle can’t wait on that! I heard there weren’t as many as a Lott of people first thought.
@@HistoryHustle nice, can't wait for it.
When is the Dutch warcrimes video coming?
One month.
The Dutch record is pretty decent but yeah some Dutch like Norwegians, Danes, etc really shat the bed. I've always wondered by the way about those few who eagerly served and ended up dead in Stalingrad or some hellhole like that. The mind boggles at the thought.
More on that here:
ruclips.net/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/видео.html
Eigenlijk wel wrang dat die twee konden ontkomen en een nog wel naar Spanje waar vele van ons op vakantie gingen
Mee eens. Wat ik wel enorm interessant vind is dat Pattist naderhand is geïnterviewd.
Man is possible you can enable auto captions for English language too cause it's only Dutch
Dunno how, but I shall look into it.
@@HistoryHustle no worries man I saw it😀😀
That interview with Pattist makes my blood boil.
A nasty man indeed.
Insane that I know her daughter
Love the motorized teeter-totter brigade.
Hope to cover the brigade in the future somewhere.
I actually know auke pattists daughter personally, I call her aunty. She is one of my mothers closest friends.
Interesting. How does she reflect on her rather and the war?
Wow, i never knew SS-men could go back to Germany. This is abhorrent.
Indeed.
2 views 3 likes 1 comment is youtube drunk again
Haha, guess you're early.
@@HistoryHustle yeah
Doubtful those Poles he mentioned were anything but multilingual germans living in polish territory granted after ww1
In fact hundreds of thousands of people with mixed Polish and German roots were forcefully conscripted into the Wehrmacht. Many defected to the Western allies after capture. Especially in the territories that belonged to the Russian and the Austro-Hungarian empire before 1917/18 ethnicities werent that clear cut and separated like in western europe. German names were all over the place among high ranking Polish military personnel in WW2 and the other way arround.
Can't say, Gary, my source wasn't too specific about it.
I have always wondered why the Germans didn't persecute these 'foreign SS' who apparently became german citizens. How these people were able to legally attain this, is also beyond me.
This is actually explained in a video on the House of History channel:
ruclips.net/video/UpvWnkyW5ys/видео.html
@@HistoryHustle thanks!
@@HistoryHustle It does not satisfy ones sense of justice that these men got away like this. Judicially it may have been correct, but damn...
Agree.
Wait, what's your name and what do you do?
Hustling history 4 U 🤓
@@HistoryHustle great stuff, as always
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David, highly interesting content, and I am wondering if you ever heard of your countryman, Albert Folens? He is renowned for alleged gestapo affiliation and escaping justice after the war and subsequently given harbor in the Rep Ireland (much like many other wanted Nazi war criminals). To compound the state connivance, he was actually bestowed the Irish state school curriculum publishing rights, no less!! So, you can imagine the school history book lean, no doubt.
Never heard of him. Just read he was part of the Flemish Legion. I did make an episode about this:
ruclips.net/video/wA5NbiD-wVQ/видео.html
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Welcome!
Me who's an Aruban
Chuckles *what the fuck?*
Guess you're the only one. Welcome to the channel!
Ik wist niet dat er een Nederlandse ss groep was (fuile land veraders waren dat)
Heftige lui waren het.
@@HistoryHustle bedankt voor uw video
Cheers Dave Know a great deal more about them now cheers although must be an emotive subject really the other thing that was poignant about Dutchand German as Enemies then Comrades over the same Battlefield!! A very difficult situation for a young Dutchman to make the rght choices at the time!! You can perfectly well understand the motivation for survival and if that meant to eat..!! U aint got much choice in the matter but those that chose to Abuse and Torture their way through the population they were reprehensible I suggest that you check out prince Bernhardt as he comes out in all sorts of accusations comments and dodginess him suggesting the execution of prisoners is rather tongue in cheek as to where his loyalties lie!! An honouary ss officer but also wearing Allied uniform!!!
I did cover motivations of joining the Waffen-SS as well. Right here:
ruclips.net/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/видео.html
The nazis were pretty permissive if they let you choose your deployment lol guessing that was only the case for foreign volunteers.
Indeed, and not all of course. And there was heavy (peer) pressure to go fight on the Eastern Front.
Those Dutch people,who joined SS,were they anti monarchists?
Not all, the popularity of the royals was and is great. Although a lot of SS’er were probably done with the monarchy after they fled to the UK in 1940. Biggest reason to join the Westland or Dutch voluntary legion was anti communism and/or believe in the national socialist cause.
Some were, but not all.
Your English videos are much quicker good jop
Thanks!
Thank you for your Hustle . About HR Prince Bernhard he must have hurt the Nazis since in 1965 a left behind network, set up by H. Goring with approval of A. Hitler recruited based on their atrocities perpetuated in Birkenau, will try to abduct him in Belgium to have him tortured to death. To be able to do so his driver was poisoned and he will pass away in my arms in Mechelen were I lived at that time ( I was about 2.5 years old and still wearing diapers) . Prince Bernhard drove himself into safety while avoiding the check points set up to catch him, with the deceased driver in the boot of his car.
I'm not aware of this. Still have to read more about this man.
So many sadists lived a comfortable life till their retirement.
Sad truth.
Sorry, but as a native Polish woman, I can't sympathize with those Dutch who fighted for Hitler.
I understand, neither can I.
Bernhard was ook een lekkere zeg.
Opmerkelijk figuur ja.
Why is that so shooking ...that Napoléon who made the concept of nationalism ... before him : nationalism did not exist ... nobles (officers)were fight for their king ( as officers) and the soldiers were just mercenaries (sold ...soldiers) ...why had a country man the duty to die for free ..no ...the soldiers was just payed for their job on thé battle field ...notion of honnor was made.only for knights ...officers ... nobles ... that change After the.french révolution soldiers for free ...officers non nobles ...
The Eastern Front showed where your place is....
Actually Napoleon gave it an impulse, but it was further developed during the 19th century.