What did the Dutch Navy do in World War Two? | Netherlands Royal Fleet 1940-1945
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2023
- Play World of Warships here: wo.ws/3OcflNm
Thank you World of Warships for sponsoring this video.
During registration use the promo code WARSHIPS to receive a huge starter pack including a bunch of Doubloons, Credits, Premium Account time, and a ship!
The promo code is only for new players who register for the first time on the Wargaming portal.
The Dutch Navy played a role both in the defence of the Netherlands against the German Invasion on the 10th of May 1940, and against the Japanese assaults in the Pacific from 1942 onwards. In this video I look at the Dutch Navy in the Second World War, from the battles on the Maasbruggen in Rotterdam with the marines, to those that made it to join the Royal Navy to take part in the evacuation at Dunkirk and the landings at D-Day, to the battles of the ABDA fleet against the Japanese at the Java Sea.
Music Used:
Sunday Dub - Kevin MacLeod
Raid the Merch Market:
teespring.com/en-GB/stores/hi...
Go Fund My Windmills (Patreon):
/ historywithhilbert
Join in the Banter on Twitter:
/ historywhilbert
Enter the Fray on Facebook:
/ historywhilbert
Indulge in some Instagram..?(the alliteration needs to stop):
/ historywithhilbert
Send me an email if you'd be interested in doing a collaboration! historywithhilbert@gmail.com
#documentary #ww2 #dutch
Play World of Warships here: wo.ws/3OcflNm
Thank you World of Warships for sponsoring this video.
During registration use the promo code WARSHIPS to receive a huge starter pack including a bunch of Doubloons, Credits, Premium Account time, and a ship!
The promo code is only for new players who register for the first time on the Wargaming portal.
Hope you enjoyed the video everyone - let me know what you thoughts in the comments!
To bad I'm a console player 😄
I am doing my best to get Yostar to introduce the Dutch Navy into Azur Lane.
world of warships legends is free to play for consoles@@Scar_tisseu-86
My grandfather was on the HMAS Perth when it went down. He survived, was taken prisoner by the Japanese for the rest of the war. He survived that too. He lived until 86 despite the long term impacts on his physical & mental health. He was the most gentle man I ever met.
In the mid 1950s when working for the Autralian Immigtation Department we had an officer who had suvivied the sinkiing of HMAS Perth & then spent many years in Japanee captivity. He was a quite, gentile man who had muliiiple days (weeks) off due to sickness.
I think they were mostly putting their boats into water and driving them around on the water
What makes you assume that?
No they only did that on land
Were the boats they drove automatic or manual shift?
Bullshit.
@@robert9016yes
I was fortunate to have known an old Dutch naval veteran by the name of Steven Brosee Van Grunoe who served in the Dutch Royal Navy as a cook in the waters off Dutch Indonesia. His ship was sunk and he fought off sharks for days before being picked up by a Japanese destroyer. That ship was later torpedoed by an allied sub and he was eventually picked up by a Japanese fishing boat near Japan. After nearly beating him to death, he was sent to a P.O.W. camp outside of Nagasaki. He survived the atomic bombing because he was on the other side of a thick masonry wall when it went off.
So much love for the Dutch, always have had and always will do.
Although past leaders from our respective countries have waged war on one another far too many times during our combined histories it’s clear that the British, the Dutch and the German people are so culturally similar.
Another amazing video, thank you for all the hard work you put in to your amazing channel Hilbert.
I mean even culturally I'd say the Dutch are closest to the English. There's a reason we have so much shared history, protestant, naval powers, liberal values, shitty food...
@@mkooij I’d agree with the Dutch being closest to us, but only by a whisker. All those similarities you’ve listed could apply to the Germans too, apart from a naval super power historically. It’s also important to mention that there are some town/cities and parts of regions in the Netherlands that are very Catholic whilst the East of Germany is Prod Central, just look at where the daddy of our faith Martin Luther came from 👊🏻
I love the English neighbors but I also love the North Sea, hehehe.
Between Germany and the Netherlands we don’t have that 😏
@@rthjong 😆
modern dutch? sure. dutch navy in WW2? nah.
Fun fact: the Dutch submarine O24 was commanded by Piet de Jong.
De Jong would later become prime minister of the Netherlands.
Never knew that, just checked on wiki and noted the man became 101 years old ! Taaie kerel !!
I would like to add about the actions of a lone gunboat HNLMS Johan Maurits van Nassau, which provided supporting fire during the battle of the Afsluitdijk. The bunkers along the afsluitdijk did not have sufficient range to counter German artillery fire from positions near Makkum so at the closing days of the battle the Dutch navy sent out a ship to destroy the artillery position. On the same day the Dutch government surrendered and the gunboat attempted to make it's way to England but was sunk by Luftwaffe aircraft.
The Dutch can be VERY determined. My relatives come to mind........
Well, I guess if you have to fight the rivers and the sea for 1000 years AND most of your far bigger neighbours, sometimes even all at the same time, it grows on you.
@@ronaldderooij1774 plus wanting to take more of the world also takes some determination.
@@Pleezath Yeah, well we lost that part of the determination, fortunately.
@@ronaldderooij1774 we did, which is good indeed. but it was a part of our "determination" for a while even after that period.
I don't know about determined but I sure do you know they're stubborn😅
The Tromp-class light cruisers (two were built) were in fact heavy destroyers, built to be the backbone of a destroyer squadron. Both (the Tromp and sister ship Jacob van Heemskerck) survived the 2nd World War. The Tromp and the destroyer Piet Hein didn't participade in the Java Sea battle, they were during the Battle of Badung Strait sunk (Piet Hein) and damaged but escaped to Australia for repairing (Tromp) The 3rd allied light cruiser in the Java Sea battle was the Australian HMAS Perth.
I think there is somewhat more to say about the WW2 contribution of the Dutch navy to the allies, especially in the Mediterranean Sea. You mentioned at 5:31 the Gerard Callenburgh class destroyers. Not three but four of these were ordered for the Dutch Navy just before World War II. three came into German hands but only one, the Gerard Callenburgh, was finished and commissioned in the Nazi German navy as the ZH1. The other two, the Tjerk Hiddes (scuttled) and Philips van Almonde (demolished) just before they came into German hands, after that both were wreck scrapped. Also the Gerard Callenburgh was scuttled, but the Germans were able to salvage her. She was subsequently completed by Blohm & Voss, retaining most of the Dutch armament and equipment, and was commissioned as ZH1 on 11 October 1942. The fourth (in fact the second) Callenburgh class destroyer was the HNLMS Isaac Sweers, launched in March 1940 the Dutch were able to evacuate the unfinished ship to the UK were it was completed with six British 4-inch dual purpose guns.
The Isaac Sweers was modern for her time, fast and the first Dutch ship to use radar to aim its AA-guns. She was part of the Allied flotilla of destroyers in the Mediterranean which torpedoed and sank two Italian cruisers on 13 December 1941 at the Battle of Cape Bon. She escorted the important convoy MW 8B to Malta in January 1942. During this mission the British destroyer Gurkha was torpedoed by the German submarine U-133. Isaac Sweers towed the stricken British destroyer through a field of burning oil and saved her entire crew of 240 sailors. They were taken to Tobruk. During Operation Torch, on 11 November 1942, along with HMS Porcupine, Isaac Sweers helped rescue 241 men from the ship Nieuw Zeeland (Dutch for New Zealand) a Dutch troop transport that had been torpedoed by a German submarine about 80 miles east of Gibraltar. On 13 November 1942, Isaac Sweers was hit by two torpedoes from the German submarine U-431, she sank with the loss of 108 of her 194 crew. See the RUclips video: "The adventures and tragic sinking of the Dutch destroyer Hr.Ms. Isaac Sweers during WW-II in color!"
A remarkable victory was made by the Dutch submarine O-21, which sank the German U-95 in a submarine-to-submarine fight a few hours' sail east of Gibraltar. The achievements of two elderly Dutch gunboats, the HNLMS Sumba and Floris, also deserve mention. Known in the British Navy as "The Terrible Twins" for their particularly daring actions during Operation Husky (the invasion of Sicily in 1943) and on June 6th, 1944 (D-Day) where they provided close fire support to landings at Gold and Utah beach. netherlandsnavy.nl/Special_twins.htm
It's funny how this all comes together but because I watched the movie Das Boot I really got into U-boats and the whole submarine aspect of world War II. Then after doing research about the American submarine forces I later figured out about the Dutch Navy. Keep in mind I'm French Irish American so it's entirely foreign to me quite literally. 😂 But as I learned about the exploits of the U-boats, the Gato class boats and the O class boats of the Dutch Navy I fell in love with the lesser known Navies of the world and especially Dutch naval culture. I think also recently by extension just Dutch culture in general.
Serving under Admiral Helfrich was my grandfather: Lieutenant at Sea 1st Class H.F. Bach Kolling (1903-1972) of HRMS O19, serving from late 1941 until late 1943.
Nice work from a fellow Dutchman. Thought would have mentioned the HNLMS Abraham Crijnssen as that is always a favorite story with it pretending to be a jungle.
It must have been so hard for those Dutch sailors running around their ships in those wooden shoes.
Dutch stealth operations are exceedingly difficult because of the clogs
We want our enemy to hear us coming
I fear that is an uninformed myth
@@henkvandervossen6616 Really??? :)
Looking at your thumbnail the Netherlands in 1940-1945 fielded at least 3 Soviet Akula-class nuclear-powered attack submarines
You should also tell about the role of the Dutch merchant navy. They were important for allied logistic support and also got veteran status. I don't understand why they are so underrated.
My grandfather served the SS Gadila MAC-ship (merchant aircraft carrier).
He went from the netherlands, to london and from there to Halifax Canada and back to Europe for bringing oil to the fronts.
He was an cooksmate at 15 years old.
@@Limburg92 Interresting. I never heard of (Dutch) merchant ships being converted into aircraft carriers during WW2. So stronge they don't even tell that in the Netherlands itself.
@@computerinsurgent1204 I know, it were if I can recall correctly only two dutch ships.
The Gadila and another one.
@@computerinsurgent1204 they we're dutch ships that were altered in I think London to MAC ships.
The Gadila was built back to original and served as tanker till '57 for an oil company and was decomissioned after.
@@Limburg92 Yeah. It can be searched up on wikipedia. The other one was Macoma.
If today merchant ships will be used in war, I think they will be either converted into a drone carrier or missile launch ships. Like for example Iran already has converted a merchant ship into a drone carrier and the Dutch navy is thinking about placing missile launchers on merchant ships to increase firepower.
Your channel is very unique, as it includes the history of sports teams, and history of nations. Great video.
De van Galen wasn't just bombed in harbour, but was sent to support the troops in Rotterdam and try to destroy the bridges in Rotterdam. It was basically sent on a suicide run up the river Maas. It just managed to tie itself to shore after being bombed on the Maas. Also have to mention that all later Bofors AA mounts used by the Allies were of Dutch design.
Maybe a video about the Dutch merchant navy would be something to think about, or with other allied countries like Norway, a not to be forgotten aspect in British/allied early war effort.
Also really enjoyed the video btw.
My father , Ynze “Harry” Salm had an interesting war. Escaping from Den Helder in 1940, he was held in Portsmouth harbour through the blitz. He served on MTBs out of Curacao and as radio operator on the Jacob van Heemskerck. While in the Far East, he chatted up by morse, my mother a radio operator wren in the British radio station at Colombo. Hence me!
He told me he never fired a shot or was fired upon throughout the war! He was most at danger being bombed by the Luftwaffe in Portsmouth harbour.
10:26 Photo taken from aircraft carrier IJN Zuikaku during the 1942 Indian Ocean Raid.
Nice. Thanks for sharing
A really good video, I'm very glad you covered this subject as it is often too easily overlooked both in Dutch WW2 history but also internationally.
I also commend you on your pronunciation of the Japanese ship names!
I 'd really like it if you would end up covering the battle of the Java Sea, the lead up to it and the aftermath in more detail. There's many videos of this battle online but I have found most to be either filled with bias(Often against the Dutch), skim over many important details or just have a complete misunderstanding of the situation. What's really missing here is a video showing the perspective of the ABDACOM participants.
Cool topic!
Fingers crossed for a similar video about the Polish Navy. 😉
well well well
Hello Hilbert. Very interesting. I commented before that my Royal Navy father missed his army brother in Singapore by one day as his brother was sent to the East Indies. My dad later sailed through there to Australia, after time in Singapore when there were still Japanese POW being told to "Double!" by all ranks.
After going to rescue French Indochinese on a what he described as a rickety hospital ship, he rejoined his aircraft carrier which was later in Dutch service as HNLMS Karel Doorman and then later in Argentine Navy as ARA Veinticinco de Mayo including during the Falklands conflict.
Interesting story on your father and uncle’s history, what was the AC carrier’s original name and origin? From retired USN Master Chief (Dutch decent)
@@henryvegter8773 HMS Venerable (R63) was a Colossus-class aircraft carrier of the Royal Navy. She served for only the last few months of World War II, and in 1948 she was sold to the Netherlands.
My dad joined an association for former crew, but he died soon after, so I only really have a picture of the ship in Sydney Harbour, that he showed at the time of the conflict in the Falklands.
As a child I saw the Karel Doorman in the harbour of Den Helder. I was impressed by the huge size.
As my father served as first officer on the Karel Doorman some time they must have met eachother.
That messenger pling at 10:23 messed with me so bad
Hello, Hilbert. I just found your channel and love the Netherlands content. These types of scenarios with Dutch involvement are not as well documented or easy to locate in English, and I enjoy your style of presenting. I'll be watching lots more of your videos.
excellent analysis
Very interesting to hear about the battle over Rotterdam
interesting video, i have never seen anyone cover this before
Excellent, yes, I would like to see more videos along this area. I missed the dutch anthem., your trademark.
10:23 damn you Hilbert I thought that was me
If they would make these World of Warship commercials a little shorter, I would probably watch one. They seem longer than the war.
Love the names of their ships
Great video but I think calling the Graf Spee a "Battleship" is stretching things a bit.
I enjoy when Hilbert mentions the dutch
What did the Dutch Navy do in World War Two?
The backstroke, mostly. Some of the Dutch subs served well.
The statistics of the Dutch O or K boats were the best of WW2 due to their aggressive attitude in the pacific. They sunk in the early days of the pacific war a lot of Japanese ships.
Because there were only a few of those subs this was on the big scale of the war not noticed, but the statistics, in this case, don’t lie.
meanwhile southern neighbour Belgium also played a role at sea, mostly it's relatively large merchant fleet with some useful fast ferries and colonial liners as well as (for the time) big tankers. in 1940 Belgium had no navy, only a coast guard that had been so neglected that it was basicly unarmed! one modern ship was on the slipway in Antwerp (Artevelde) but she fell in German hands... eventually only one member of that coast guard ended up in the free Belgian military, merchant sailors instead established the "Royal Navy Section Belge" operating 2 corvettes, 6 minesweepers and several landing craft as well as members serving on regular RN ships. the two corvettes did very well, HMS Buttercup and HMS Godetia, both destroyed and damaged U boots and saved crews from sinking cargo ships. escort and minesweeping remained the Belgian navy's main task since, nowadays the Belgian and Dutch navy work together closely with Benelux, EU and NATO.
I served as a US Army liaison and nuclear weapons officer attached to the First Netherlands Corps back in the late 70s. My Netherlands counterpart was Captain Klaus Van Der Veen. His father had been an officer aboard a Netherlands submarine that spent the war in the Pacific. Klaus was only 6 years old when the krauts invaded and he had many tales to tell of the war years.
So he told also about Pearl Harbor:
Day of deceit-the truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor by Robert B.Stinnett
Uit:Westerling-DE EENLING:
blz.30 Roosevelt wilt best oorlog.Zijn oorlog
blz.31 In de vroege ochtend van 26 februari vliegen Amerikaanse piloten, zonder enig bericht aan admiraal Helfrich, weg naar Australie.
De kleine lettertjes in voormeld boek staan vol interessant documentatiemateriaal.
Brian Mark Rigg- Jewish Professor, ex officer IDF and US Navy- Hitler's Jewish Soldiers
Walter Ze'ev Laqueur-Jewish writer-Blik op de wereld-de holocaust-het gruwelijk geheim (the terrific secret).
Without WWII and the (monopolized)holocaust ,there would not have been an Israel on Palestine area, would not it?
Just quietly, between you and i Hilbert; You misspelled Koninklijke Marine, and if you mean Royal Dutch Marines, then that would be Het Korps Mariniers. Hope it helps 💋
Unknown to ABDA command Japanese torpedoes had extreme long range and a huge warhead. This was a Japanese secret weapon allied navies didn’t not counter till 1943
You forgot the education of Dutch Navy officers at House Enys. The men were involved in minesweeping, convoying, radardevelopment. Aside of the officers there were many lower rank sailors in the UK and USA doing there duty.
Wow, the Dutch had nuclear subs in 42. Nice thumbnail
Have you a video on the princess Irene brigade?
You pronounce Dutch names quite well, uploader :)
He's Dutch
The Dutch feel like such a versatile country.
If only they didn't have a grudge against us :/
@@cerebrummaximus3762 Who is "us"? I'm not sure we have a grudge against anyone, except a playfully with Belgium.
@@merovekh Bulgaria (also Romanians). It was a reference to being vetoed from Schengen only by Austria and the Netherlands.
I was semi-joking, politicians tend to be pricks and I doubt the people have any opinions on Bulgaria nor do they have any say on what the politicians think - but I am also curious on the Netherlands people actual opinions on us?
@@cerebrummaximus3762
In general? Not really much of an opinion, I think. Most of the general public has to little interaction with Romania and Bulgaria to really know or form an opinion, other then ‘large Central European EU member, formerly behind the Iron Curtain”. In general, Hungaria Romania Bulgaria, Moldova Ukraine, Slovakia and Czechia were (at least till recently) kinda unknowns for most. I assume it’s similar for your country when talking about the difference between Netherlands Belgium and Luxembourg: too far away & not enough interaction to really have an opinion either way?
Some talk of your politicians & elite still having too much corruption and maybe the EU entrance should have been delayed a bit, to give more incentive to fight that properly.
Some talk of the hard workers that come here sometimes for jobs.
Some respect for the way the Romanians dealt with the last communist dictator.
I think that about all most people know.
Oh, right, that Romania has an Italian / Latin family language, compared to most neighbors having a Slavic or Turkish family language
I wonder what would have been if they were in 7 years war and WW1 as well? Interesting to look at eh?
" there are much bigger and better Japanese ships just over the orizon. Let's make sure that we get into range of their big guns." Maybe not the best plan?
Hey Hilbert, good content, but your editting on this video isn't quite up to your usual standard I'm afraid.
There's a couple of rather jarring quick cuts in the audio, a couple of screen transitions/slide changes that hop back and forth, and at around 16:38 or so, we see your editting software pop up.
The content of the video is great, but the slightly slapdash editting is a little off putting... maybe something to focus on for the next couple of videos, just to push the standard back up?
Thanks 🙂
saw you in Marc Rebillet chat 😏
Too bad you did not include the roll of the HNLMS Flores and HNLMS Soemba also known as the "terrible twins".
6:46 'Marijne"?
The decision to appoint the Dutch East Indies Squadron to be in command was a typical Anglo Saxon incorrect command in control
hi Hilbert There is a problem with the video
what happend to portugal in ww2
Hilbert, perhaps you can still correct a spelling mistake 6:48 : it's not "Koninklijke Marijne" but Koninklijke Marine !!
I've never understood the value of going down with the ship. Being the last man to abandon ship, maybe (if you've decided the ship must be sunk so as not to fall into enemy hands) choosing the job of firing the explosives yourself, giving up your place in a lifeboat to a wounded sailor etc. yes, those are the sort of honourable/chivalrous actions you might expect from the captain or the other officers. But just staying aboard a sinking ship seems a stupid thing to do - and a waste of all your knowledge and experience that might be used more advantageously later on in the conflict. As they say, better to stay alive to fight another day....
i think it gives trust to the crew. If the captain makes a mistake, he knows he will pay for it with his life.
It's an honor thing. Something that's lost on some people
@@christrumptastic3161 As I said before, the honour lies in making sure all the rest of your crew (and/or passengers, as with the Italian cruise ship) is taken care of first. That means you're the last off, or possibly die in the process. It doesn't mean giving up your life for no purpose.
I thought the weakness of it was that a Navy could lose good and well trained officers. By all means try to ensure all who can be are evacuated but surviving senior officers can pass on information learned in any sinking
@@helanrenno no. The honor us dying. But I won't argue with you whom know not of true Honor
The Dutch fleet was blown out of the water by the mighty Japanese navy.
Please visit Micahistory, it would mean a lot!
Hearing a bloke with a 100% Teeside accent suddenly pronounce Dutch ship names and cities perfectly blew my tiny mind. Then hearing a Dutchman pronounce German in that same 'Boro accent... ik stond met de mond vol tanden.
Having trained in a Dutch naval base, they still maintain an impressive naval presence. Only second to Britain in western Europe in my opinion. Most impressive is not their capability, but their reluctance to use it. If needed, they are ready, but the mentality and politics is entirely benevolent. Long may it remain so!
Above France?
I can’t imagine he ranks the Dutch above the French, probably just forgot
@@KixSlim Oh yeah, forgot about the French!
@@wickedymikeno worries we all do
The Dutch being third most powerful in Western Europe which is made up of 6 countries with sea access and one of them being Ireland isnt impressive
It got sunk
Your dutch is great
🇺🇸Howdy brothers👋🏻 The Dutch built settlements all throughout Louisiana, if you see a town in La starting with De-…Its an old Dutch Settlement--Europeans are some tough as nails enterprising make things happen type of people…I love Us❤
Are they Dutch or Deutsch? ;-)
🇳🇱Howdy partner
The most uncredited story of the dutch royal navy is the story of the dutch terrible twins. Hms flores and hms soemba.
These 2 flotilla sister gunboats deserve the credit for their achievement on both landings during ww2 aspecialy since they where pretty outdated ( entered service in 1926) but nonetheless they where amazing.
These are ships that deserve a spot on the list of world of warships in every version of the game. Just like the fokker d21 and the fokker g1 aeroplanes.
What did the Dutch sailors eat in the Pacific when they ran out of pickled Herring rations?
They did thier duty to the best of thier ability.
Kortom; de Nederlandse marine vond KAMIKAZE uit, en niet Japan.
Pretending to be a small island and slip away.
2:45 You're not listing any submarines here but mention submarines later. What gives?
25 minute vid made 2 seconds, the dutch last about 5 seconds and sunk
They “donated” their inventions to the Allies and the axis?
They escorted the Queen to hiding in Canada!
Duck the low lands
You scoundrel! This was an extended plug for World of Warships! Bad form!
Holy shit how many languages do you speak. Based on the non english words that you spoke you could honestly through for a native dutch speaker based of off the pronounciation. And probably also for a japanese (from a native dutch who also speaks a bit of japanese)
Actually if you're a competent officer it doesn't make sense tacticly to go down with your ship on purpose. Just saying.
This was just an excuse for a long commercial.
This video seems choppy...
Sink.
helaas heeft WOWS de nederlandse marine helemaal gesloopt, de schepen in het spel zijn niet correct, ze hebben diverse schepen onrealistische eigenschappen gegeven, en andere zijn niet in het spel.
Amongst many things, a Dutch Admiral's pig headed selfishness, led to the sinking of HMAS Perth, with all hands...
Leave it to 010 to strike fear in the Germans!
We had our peak as a Republic. The Orange royal family always invoked decline. Look at our history and you will agree.
I'm sorry but the Dutch task force leader was a little too reckless with the lives of his men. Brave but stupid is fine if it's just your own life but taking on a superior force with little or no chance of winning it's just plain stupid and prices the lives of those men far too cheaply. Definitely brave and definitely stupid.
😳😂
i smell dutch
My Dutch/Geordie friend. An interesting story but not your greatest editing or production. Just a thought
Answer to the title:
Lose.
Nothing! 😂 One huge defeat in the Pacific! 😂 The rest of the war some breadcrumbs here and there! 😂
why is elon musk on the thumbnail?
Was there a Dutch navy?
😂😂😂
Dutch didn’t surrender. America is a Dutch colony. If true the American wouldn’t of come to fight. America is a extension of Dutch territory
What?😅
@@vincentvillanueva3234 i am dutch, and studied history, and yes i know a bit about american history. We lost nieuw amsterdam during a war with brittain, we traded it for suriname. Besides that, nieuw amsterdam was already untennable for the dutch by that point. There were no more colonies of ours there. When it comes to the independance, we only sent support together with france through st-martin in the carribean.
@@tiberiusbrain you read Dutch history from a British standpoint. You gotta think from a military standpoint. How can a small country with a lower population control area across the ocean? Most reports British sent back was fake bc they was forced into service and knew their life was on the line to perform.. what do you think is more likely.. them lying on reports to save their own neck or tell the truth about failure.. not only that most the British in America was banished and had loyalty to Dutch republic. English was the easiest language to teach for trade purposes / American language and “English “ is very very different. You gotta look at it from a soldier’s perspective knowing his life and family life is on the line. Would they lye to protect themselves and family or tell truth about no progress? The only thing I can say actually happened is they kept writing story’s / plays and ppl started to think it was real history not historical fiction
@@tiberiusbrain I’m Dutch to. / you will get called crazy if you say anything about Dutch history, bc they have propaganda here to try and prop up Brit’s . But ppl don’t like being lied to./ all it did was take any credibility away from all Brit sponsors schools/ they argued they wanted workers not thinkers . (The ppl who made the industrial decisions) = they knowingly lied about history to make a generation of workers who are now obsolete and researching history for themselves. Basically it’s well known that most history is a lye / history as of now is a lye that’s agreed upon by the people who “teach “ .. I also was a teacher for a bit and it is still in the history books here. The truth about d republic and their purchase of America land ect
@@vincentvillanueva3234 ah, but of course! Drawing conclusions from information you do not have about any of the sources i draw from! Have a nice day, sir.
SHIP A DAY
Junkers???? The plane depicted is a Fokker T VIII! Don't think the Dutch air force had any Junkers planes.
❤️🤍💙“We _____, we are the destroyers & will remain the destroyers. Nothing you do can ever meet our demands & needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own”.-- 1921 Maurice Samuel