Awesome info. I'm in the US but I do travel overseas. I was looking at the Thinktool Master X as an upgrade to my Ms906bt. Can I use a VPN to update and use the programming functions of the MasterX in the US? Can I also add an oscilloscope to the Master X? My other option is the Phoenix Smart, can I add a scope to that too?
Hey great review. I’m really looking to get a platinum s10 just cause I don’t need the hd. But do you know how well it reads live data performs hot functions on light duty ? Like duramax Cummins and power stroke ? I’m the guy they give diesels to at work but the autel ultra they have at work does not read the love data I need when im diagnosing
@@JohanLugo-i6i you can’t unfortunately you need Forscan or IDS which is used with a ford VCM3. You maybe able to vin match a used tcm but that’s it. That’s a big if too.
I would like to know cost benefit which equipment is available that makes security Gateway .FCA SGW access . Thinkcar thinktool low cost of access .e complete . price . Your videos are very constructive.
Awesome you did this video because I was definitely interested in buying a thinkcar scanner but isn’t it the exact same as top don and both are just a rebranded launch?
Yeah so I upgraded from the last video on some of them. I still have my Autel and Snap On but now I have thinkcar. Thinkcar and launch buy from the same software vendor and TopDon buys from thinkcar if that makes sense. I sell a lot of both. They are excellent scan tools. There are some differences within the tool vendors between all three thinkcar does not block out programming.Here is my store.
No it all stays. Thinkcar is $500 for an update card and TopDon is $795 when you decide to update. The only thing you can’t use is Chrysler 18+ because autoauth needs an active subscription to work.
@@weldingjunkie It's unfortunate that the scope has the capability to have those other functions but that the 10" screen scanners cannot display them. Too bad they didn't put them under one of the other buttons in a drop down menu type of display on the smaller size scanners.
It has no programming at all you need a j2534 for that but it does have coding plenty of it. Overall a great scanner but TopDon smart is better choice if you want programming
@@Bizija123 i hear ya I was just throwing it out there so you knew what’s what. The TopDon lite 2 is the same as the TopDon plus diff size screens if you want to save more money.
Yes some of that topology will not work with all the cars. It all depends on the auto manufacturer. However it should definitely work with 96+ vehicles Ford and Toyota included. I have not seen this issue on too many cars. Sometimes you have to delete the manufacture and reinstall it on the scanner.
Great video, just have a question. I just ordered a Autel MS906BT but now after watching your video I'm kinda having second thoughts. Would you suggest getting a Topdon or Thinkcar over the Autel?
Hi Kevin thinkcar is the way to go it’s basically launch same coverage and software but better, has topology for can testing its way faster than autel. I’ve been selling thinkcar for a few years now and I’m a tech so I use these scanners. TopDon buys software from thinkcar etc. i would def cancel and buy the s10.
Nice video, I would really appreciate your opinion on the Thinktool Master 2, as that seems to be the top of my budget. I work on mostly VW, Audi and Porsche. Do you think it will be ok for these brands? I do work on all other brands also but mainly those 3 brands. Advice would be appreciated.
Hi ‘ nice video I have to get one of this tools, I’m thinking in getting the platinum he or the s20 one but I still need some information.... Would it be possible to speak over the phone? Thank you
Hi! Launch x431 pad 7 has The same limit as The Thinktool S20 regarding online programming in spain and US, how come? Are they The same? Thanks for this!
I'm interested in getting the platinum s20 but is it worth it for the price? I mainly gonna be doing domestic brands like Ford GM and Chrysler that range from the late 90's to 2020. Will it read live data for eairly 00's ford and gm?
You can you’ll have to use the ford adapter on some of the 96 years up and below a few years. It is definitely worth it for the price. I do have a lifetime unit available if you’re located in the United States. It has lifetime updates forever.
Any video reviews on the Topdon Plus vs Lauch X431 Pro vs Autel MK906 within the $1,200 range cant find any comparing to find the best bang for the buck to work best on GM and Chevrolet, Ford Etc..?
Unfortunately no. The mk908 is a global tool I didn’t like it so I won’t be reviewing it froze up a lot. The mk906 same tool global version. Are you in the USA?
Buy this it’s best bang for the bucks I ordered one too www.ebay.com/itm/THINKCAR-THINKTOOL-PAD10-OBD2-Scanner-Bidirectional-Diagnostic-Tool-Key-Coding-/125120717216?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Hello my friend, I have a thinktool pros device. Is it possible to separate the scan program from the Android program? In other words, I want to make it like tablets and there are many applications, including thinkcar’s scan application, such as Platinum S20
Nice video. I have a question about s20 some body who sale the tools told me the s20 don't does online programing in USA. but you say the solution is VPN .please I want too know because I'm planning too buy tha thinkcar s20 .thank you 👍👍👍
Hey Raul correct it’s locked by via USA ip addesss so a vpn alleviates this. I sell these with lifetime subscription in USA. Do you want a lifetime unit? Are you in USA?
@@MatthewTaylor3 yes USA and Spain you need vpn every where else you don’t. If you can buy a thinkpros buy tbat it’s same but global version. Do not buy the pro needs to be the pros “s”
@@weldingjunkie I'm in Jamaica, so are you saying that I can just buy the PRO S model, and I can activate, do firmware updates, and flash OEM ECUs with the version 10?
They all use x431 software which launch also uses, it’s not launch software but they do use it, but thinkcar , launch TopDon etc buys it from the same server software company as everyone else…They are all made in China however there are global models and USA supported models for instance the S10 is a USA model of the thinkcar pros.
@@weldingjunkie If they all use the same software then it's safe to say that all the Launch accessories are compatible with Thinkcar? I've seen some videos that the X-Prog and the X-Prog3 are used with Thinkcar Pros, would it be the same for the oscilloscope? I'm looking into the Platinum S10 and accessories.
Where are you located? I have a package deal right now that’s killer. S20, oscilloscope, prog 3 and inspection scope, Tpms G1 , and few more thing for $4995 if you are interested let me know
gostaria saber custo beneficio qual equipamento a disposicao que faça security Gateway .FCA SGW access . Thinkcar thinktool custo baixo de aceso .e completo . preço . Muito estrutivo seus videos .
Phoenix Plus is terrible. Unfortunately, it rarely works. I send reports through the tool for the issues but nothing comes of it. Vehicle after vehicle, after vehicle after vehicle. During the smart scan, the topology shows modules being scanned but doesn't display anything other than colored boxes. Selecting the green ones only turns them gray. Can not read codes, see data, nothing. At first, I was excited to have it. Then the anomaly turned into the rule. It's a shame that every other scan tool (autel maxis, snap on Apollo, even blue driver dongle) has no problem with these vehicles. Huge waste of $1000 on the phoenix plus
I assume you are talking about GM for topology. What you have to do is delete it and then do an update on the tool reinstall GM and you’ll get your topology back. This was an old issue that was resolved that way. Try that and let me know
I have the topdon phoenix plus and I love it 🔥💪
Guy's get the Phenix 🙌🙏🏻💯✅
Awesome info. I'm in the US but I do travel overseas. I was looking at the Thinktool Master X as an upgrade to my Ms906bt. Can I use a VPN to update and use the programming functions of the MasterX in the US? Can I also add an oscilloscope to the Master X? My other option is the Phoenix Smart, can I add a scope to that too?
Hey great review. I’m really looking to get a platinum s10 just cause I don’t need the hd. But do you know how well it reads live data performs hot functions on light duty ? Like duramax Cummins and power stroke ? I’m the guy they give diesels to at work but the autel ultra they have at work does not read the love data I need when im diagnosing
Hi, I have a Topdon Phoenix Plus, how do I program a TCM on a 2012 Ford Focus?
@@JohanLugo-i6i you can’t unfortunately you need Forscan or IDS which is used with a ford VCM3. You maybe able to vin match a used tcm but that’s it. That’s a big if too.
I would like to know cost benefit which equipment is available that makes security Gateway .FCA SGW access . Thinkcar thinktool low cost of access .e complete . price . Your videos are very constructive.
Hi all of the thinkcar line has SGW access. Are you in the USA? I can take care of you if you are
@@weldingjunkie OK Brasil .obrigado .ok brazi thank you.
I'm in Brazil I'm counting on your company.
Awesome you did this video because I was definitely interested in buying a thinkcar scanner but isn’t it the exact same as top don and both are just a rebranded launch?
Yeah so I upgraded from the last video on some of them. I still have my Autel and Snap On but now I have thinkcar. Thinkcar and launch buy from the same software vendor and TopDon buys from thinkcar if that makes sense. I sell a lot of both. They are excellent scan tools. There are some differences within the tool vendors between all three thinkcar does not block out programming.Here is my store.
www.reliableautomotivestore.com/shop/automotive-scan-tool
Hi, I have a Topdon Phoenix Plus, can I program keys with it?
At the end of two years free updates if you chose not to pay subscription what functions does the Topdon Plus lose ?
No it all stays. Thinkcar is $500 for an update card and TopDon is $795 when you decide to update. The only thing you can’t use is Chrysler 18+ because autoauth needs an active subscription to work.
I see that the Thinkcar scope shows the same info on the Thinkcar HD that it does on my Thinktool Pros.
Yep I thought of you when I was making the video it’s the screen size couldn’t fit all the same buttons.
@@weldingjunkie It's unfortunate that the scope has the capability to have those other functions but that the 10" screen scanners cannot display them. Too bad they didn't put them under one of the other buttons in a drop down menu type of display on the smaller size scanners.
@@Mr2004MCSS agreed I looked for that first soon as I plugged it in, I was hoping I could find it
Can the Phoenix Plus do any kind of programming, like ABS module or some other modules? I know it cannot do ECU programming.
It has no programming at all you need a j2534 for that but it does have coding plenty of it. Overall a great scanner but TopDon smart is better choice if you want programming
@@weldingjunkie Yea um that's like 2000 dollars so hell no. Not for the DIY person. Thanks.
@@Bizija123 i hear ya I was just throwing it out there so you knew what’s what. The TopDon lite 2 is the same as the TopDon plus diff size screens if you want to save more money.
@@weldingjunkie but i want the topology, lol 😂 it's very neat.
Would this work on late 90s early 2000 fords I saw topdon had a issue where a 98 Toyota only pulled ecm in topology no other system or sub options
Yes some of that topology will not work with all the cars. It all depends on the auto manufacturer. However it should definitely work with 96+ vehicles Ford and Toyota included. I have not seen this issue on too many cars. Sometimes you have to delete the manufacture and reinstall it on the scanner.
Thank you also does the s10 platinum have HD applications like the s20/ he models?
Great video, just have a question. I just ordered a Autel MS906BT but now after watching your video I'm kinda having second thoughts. Would you suggest getting a Topdon or Thinkcar over the Autel?
Hi Kevin thinkcar is the way to go it’s basically launch same coverage and software but better, has topology for can testing its way faster than autel. I’ve been selling thinkcar for a few years now and I’m a tech so I use these scanners. TopDon buys software from thinkcar etc. i would def cancel and buy the s10.
I sell the s10 here and can get it ordered right away. 401-710-2400 www.reliableautomotivestore.com/shop/p/thinkcar-platinum-s10
I want to venture into car 🔑 programming and diagnostic business which product would you recommend me for especially easy to use and lifetime update.
Nice video, I would really appreciate your opinion on the Thinktool Master 2, as that seems to be the top of my budget. I work on mostly VW, Audi and Porsche. Do you think it will be ok for these brands? I do work on all other brands also but mainly those 3 brands. Advice would be appreciated.
Absolutely it has programming for those brands as well via vpn
@@weldingjunkie thank you. And thank you for taking the time to reply.
Thanks for the demo 🤙
Hi, i need some help.
wich one is better Topdon phoenix plus od Thinkcar thintool pros.
Thanks.
Same tool the pros was made for European global sales the plus was USA. The TopDon lite 2 is new but it’s 8inch
Hello dear, I’m interested in Platinum S20
Can it scan codes and test Hybrid cars? Toyota/Suburban Hybrid and others? what about the Chevy Volt?
Absolutely it can. Anything that’s obd2 it can handle coverage for hybrid included
Hi ‘ nice video
I have to get one of this tools, I’m thinking in getting the platinum he or the s20 one but I still need some information....
Would it be possible to speak over the phone?
Thank you
Have you heard of the Thinktool Pad10 model ? On eBay.
Pad 10 is the new thinkpros. Are you located in USA?
Also no CanFD to support new GM/Chevy
I have never been more confused looking at the Thinktool lineup. Is the older ProS better to get versus the Pad 10? I'm in the USA.
Can you use the scope with the phoneix plus?
No TopDon blocked the scope app on all scanners but the Max, TopDon buys thier software from thinkcar. I wonder if it was an extra cost
Hi! Launch x431 pad 7 has The same limit as The Thinktool S20 regarding online programming in spain and US, how come? Are they The same? Thanks for this!
They are yes very similar hardware too. You can use vpn to use it tho
@@weldingjunkie Thank you for your answer! Im in Sweden so I should be good then! All the best!
I'm interested in getting the platinum s20 but is it worth it for the price? I mainly gonna be doing domestic brands like Ford GM and Chrysler that range from the late 90's to 2020. Will it read live data for eairly 00's ford and gm?
You can you’ll have to use the ford adapter on some of the 96 years up and below a few years. It is definitely worth it for the price. I do have a lifetime unit available if you’re located in the United States. It has lifetime updates forever.
How does the Platinum S10 compare to a SnapOn Verus Pro?
Blows it out of the water, the pro is very old the graphing is good but the rest is not as good as thinkcar
@@weldingjunkie thanks. I was looking to add a second/back up scan tool to my shop, sounds like the SnapOn may become the backup.
@@bigcountry425 anytime you can’t beat it, it’ll fill the holes of each other. I sell thinkcar if you are in USA 401-710-2400 call or text
Great tool review
Thanks brother hope all is well
@@weldingjunkie yes by God’s grace
will these work for dual clutch relearn
Is the thinktool s20, thinktool pad10 or the TOPDON one? Thank
The pad 10 is terrible don’t buy it. The s20 , s10 etc is amazing. The TopDon Phenix plus , elite & smart are all great. What country are you in?
Iam in México here they do alot of key proggramming and ECU ,and iam looking some scsnner wich recomoned by your experiencie
Any video reviews on the Topdon Plus vs Lauch X431 Pro vs Autel MK906 within the $1,200 range cant find any comparing to find the best bang for the buck to work best on GM and Chevrolet, Ford Etc..?
Unfortunately no. The mk908 is a global tool I didn’t like it so I won’t be reviewing it froze up a lot. The mk906 same tool global version. Are you in the USA?
Buy this it’s best bang for the bucks I ordered one too www.ebay.com/itm/THINKCAR-THINKTOOL-PAD10-OBD2-Scanner-Bidirectional-Diagnostic-Tool-Key-Coding-/125120717216?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
@@weldingjunkie Foxwell GT65?
@@weldingjunkieiam looking middle range bro not really low can you help me
@@olinhernandez8998 I can yes are you in the USA ?
Which device is better, thinkcar or topdon elite
What's the best ?
What you recommend ??
Hello my friend, I have a thinktool pros device. Is it possible to separate the scan program from the Android program? In other words, I want to make it like tablets and there are many applications, including thinkcar’s scan application, such as Platinum S20
So you paid half the $500 to get it and you owe the other $500 to unlock ? Without wifi you won’t get any special functions, coding, programming etc
Nice video. I have a question about s20 some body who sale the tools told me the s20 don't does online programing in USA. but you say the solution is VPN .please I want too know because I'm planning too buy tha thinkcar s20 .thank you 👍👍👍
Hey Raul correct it’s locked by via USA ip addesss so a vpn alleviates this. I sell these with lifetime subscription in USA. Do you want a lifetime unit? Are you in USA?
@@weldingjunkie Does the S10 unit also support programming? I plan to use it in Jamaica.
@@MatthewTaylor3 yes USA and Spain you need vpn every where else you don’t. If you can buy a thinkpros buy tbat it’s same but global version. Do not buy the pro needs to be the pros “s”
@@weldingjunkie I'm in Jamaica, so are you saying that I can just buy the PRO S model, and I can activate, do firmware updates, and flash OEM ECUs with the version 10?
@@MatthewTaylor3 correct, it has about 12 makes so you can use it for those only.
hello what is the best of the three ? Merci
S20 is the best one made and out right now for sure
@@weldingjunkie 0
Hello sir best scanner tool for India
Thinktool pros or pro+ or master X are all excellent that’s what I would buy in India
They are all Chinese and all use LAUNCH software, I will go look for more of your videos while these tools are in use, thanks.
They all use x431 software which launch also uses, it’s not launch software but they do use it, but thinkcar , launch TopDon etc buys it from the same server software company as everyone else…They are all made in China however there are global models and USA supported models for instance the S10 is a USA model of the thinkcar pros.
@@weldingjunkie If they all use the same software then it's safe to say that all the Launch accessories are compatible with Thinkcar? I've seen some videos that the X-Prog and the X-Prog3 are used with Thinkcar Pros, would it be the same for the oscilloscope? I'm looking into the Platinum S10 and accessories.
What's the difference between thintool pro+ and the master
Those are global none USA machines the plus has programming. The pros is the s10
Do you recommend the launch pad 7 and launch pro3s+
could you send a link as to get the thinktool?
Hi Mark absolutely are you in the US?
www.reliableautomotivestore.com
@@weldingjunkie no ....Trinidad and Tobago.....we do heavy equipment and trucks....
@@dieselhog let me check who your rep is there. I’ll get back to you soon.
are topdon and thinktool made by the same company?
They are not no, launch , thinktool and TopDon are all seperate companies
Thinkcar made for topdon and icarsoft.Thinkcar is the best
уникальное сравнение
Thank you for the Demo, Where do I get the Thinkcar Plantinum S20 for a good price?
Where are you located? I have a package deal right now that’s killer. S20, oscilloscope, prog 3 and inspection scope, Tpms G1 , and few more thing for $4995 if you are interested let me know
Wich is the best and aswer plis
The S20 is the best top line.
@@weldingjunkie dio you recomend the s10 middle range
Iam a begginer and want to now to not go the really expensive middle field
@@olinhernandez8998 I recommend the s10 for $1500
@@weldingjunkie that was the answer i want read or Hear jejej thanks men graetfull your opinión god blees you
How many vehicles are they capable of servicing?
98% coverage rate 96 or newer
My Aidtool Platinum HD Look exactly like the thinkcar HD
Same company they buy from thinkcar
@@weldingjunkie you got that info somewhere ?
Very helpful
gostaria saber custo beneficio qual equipamento a disposicao que faça security Gateway .FCA SGW access . Thinkcar thinktool custo baixo de aceso .e completo . preço . Muito estrutivo seus videos .
Phoenix Plus is terrible. Unfortunately, it rarely works. I send reports through the tool for the issues but nothing comes of it. Vehicle after vehicle, after vehicle after vehicle. During the smart scan, the topology shows modules being scanned but doesn't display anything other than colored boxes. Selecting the green ones only turns them gray. Can not read codes, see data, nothing.
At first, I was excited to have it. Then the anomaly turned into the rule. It's a shame that every other scan tool (autel maxis, snap on Apollo, even blue driver dongle) has no problem with these vehicles.
Huge waste of $1000 on the phoenix plus
I assume you are talking about GM for topology. What you have to do is delete it and then do an update on the tool reinstall GM and you’ll get your topology back. This was an old issue that was resolved that way. Try that and let me know
@@weldingjunkie Since deleting and reinstalling, the tool is working again. Thank you!!!
These price range from $800 to $2000+ so yeah u will get more options and features for the higher range priced scan tools! No brainer... 🤔