That may be the actual weight difference. Screws versus glue and plastic clips. Mind you Apple plastic clips are generally good but it isn't hard to make a good plastic interference lock.
17:46 Linus: "Are these a great value? No, but you were shopping for AirPods Max so you probably didn't care about that anyway" Gotta appreciate the little roasts he throws in there
@@ALEXA-by2rr I know they wouldn't do it if it didn't work but the fact that they still try even though they have to put all this crap to bypass the spam filter is crazy to me
Has probably something to do with that people at least think they buy something "premium" I just bought some Real Pure from Teufel (cable version) there is also a BT and BT witch NC version (Cable Version around 100€, BT Version 130-140€ and BT + NC Version i think around 170€)
@@pixels_per_inch had no chance to try them yet but i stay away from BT Headphones cause mine usually last longer then any BT headphones would cause of the battery degrading.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Yes and no, while I personally only have ever owned MBP's as Apple products which is in my opinion overall far, far better than any PC laptop, Apple is all about the whole feeling, everything(well partly) is in the details, like in this video everything has this quality feel, from how you extend the size of the headband, to how they adjust to your head. This is what Apple most likely do best. And that is what their buyers are after. I guess it's easy to compare to the watch industry where you have wristwatches to around $500 that some feel is excellent product with a high quality feel to it, and then you have Rolex.. But I am not so sure I would in general put Apple at the Rolex in the industry.. Oh and myself I have a few Sony and Sennheiser headphones myself.
It'd be really great if they slap Linus' face on their LTT mousepads, would automatically be sold out within the first few minutes of launch considering how fast their usual mousepads run out of stock
It's way higher of a value to get sony's or senheisers instead of these knock-offs. No warranty on these bad boys, even if they look and act similar to the real deal.
But those are better than original airpods max, most people who buy the airpods max are buying them bcoz of the brand, so might as well get these and save 350$
@@hellterminator Nope dude, you have it all wrong, there a hell lot of audiophile level detailed headphones/IEMs under a 100$ that absolutely obliterate any apple audio product.
I would have liked to see a blind listening test. Have a person who didn't know which one was which, put the headphones on their heads, and let them tell you which sounded better.
@@MKFishing666yeah no, the sound signature is NOTHING like any of the higher end airpods it's not quality, but tuning. Those knockoffs are VERY bass heavy vs the pretty overall flat real pair, and would be immediately noticable. I get that it seems like one of those dumb audiophile things, but headphone tuning and sound signatures actually matter, vs actual snake oil.
To my ears these 3rd Gen Air pods are more comfortable compared to the newer Pro version with the soft gel tips. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxgl8SzyQoymMu-S3V55Dskg5QJ8xr1yCR That said, compared to the 3rd Gen, I notice these do not stay planted in the ear as well. One design issue I think, is you squeeze the stem and click it twice to advance your songs. On 3rd gen you tap the large speaker. The difference is by grabbing the stem each time, you tend to loosen the bud fit in your ear. Not always, but the bud falls out a few times while running. The old tap to change never had that problem for me. I would not have changed that tap function. That said, the newer Pro version sticks in the ear, almost airtight if you want that. I do not like that Airtight fit. So that's why I'd stay with this version as the best trade off of comfort, use, and overall feel.
Yep total garbage, only decent clones worth their money are propulse pods for me. My son works in an apple store and he couldn't even tell they were clones when i gave him his christmas present lol
@@siennaharding7025 incompetence is pretty much a hiring requirement for apple. Phone screen broken ? "WOULD YOU LIKE TO UPGRADE TO THE MAC ULTRA WITH 1000$ WHEELS ???????? NO ? YOU MUST BE A BROKE LOSER. I GUESS WE CAN'T ALL HAVE INFINITE MONEY HUH PFF HAHA" That's pretty much the experience I have from ever shopping at an apple store.
if you think about trusting dankpods' headphone reviews be wary that he's been drumming for years and likely has some form of hearing loss in the treble frequencies.
They might be right if you're only considering wireless headphones with all of the features they have. Obviously they can't compete with an old school pair of wired headphones like the Sony MDR7506, but the battery, amplifier, microphones, etc. is the majority of the cost. Converting the MDR7506 into wireless headphones with the same features would cost more than $100.
@@jayleno2192 Yeah, that's so obvious. I don't understand how that's not a given to people. Of course if someone says something like that about wireless headphones with a bunch of features, it's meant to be compared with other headphones with similar features. No sane person is going to say that $200 wireless headphones will provide the absolute best sound quality of any headphones at that price point.
Ever since RoHS took effect, lead weights have become pretty rare. Most people use a tungsten alloy that has the same density as lead. It could be lead though, it's hard to tell from the video.
It's definitely not tungsten. Tungsten is super expensive. Tungsten also isn't malleable at room temperature. I'd say it could be led. It's most likely a steel alloy, not straight up steel.
Probably zink, but certainly not improbable its actually lead. Zink is reasonably close to density of lead, easily cast, machined and processed (softer than gold), low toxicity, and cheap. One of the cheapest common-use metals these days, along with lead and iron. Could be tin too, tin like zink has many of the same or very close properties as lead (including patina when moderately oxidized), but tin is way closer in hardness to lead. Tin is way more expensive though, but oxidize less easily. Zink is commonly used as a sacrificial anode on marine vessels and equipment, because of its mode of oxidation and corrosion, and it's low cost considering its relatively massive galvanic potential distance from most other metals including most steels. Zink is still ~50% more expensive than lead (per weight, about equal per volume) but tin is 15 times as expensive as lead (per weight). Lead is in a few aspects more costly than it once was, but it's still half the price of mild steel.
In these very small quantities for a high value vs material use product, pricing isn't really that much of a consideration though. There's serious expenditures sunken into making this thing be as it is in most other aspects; it's certainly not a minimum cost production. They'd easily go with tin over zink or lead if that provided some other small process or availability benefit.
@@pr0xZen Pure steel yes, especially if you are using grades like 316 yes. A steel alloy is fractions of pure zink. Steel alloys are mixed with other metals usually made from recycled parts, making them fractions cheaper. Steel has a very weird state of properties depending on how it's forged and what other things are forged with it.. Take damascus steel for example. To this day the original damascus process is lost to time. If you heat steel and quench it in oil it will absorb the carbon. Steel has a very broad set properties.
This video just saved me from a Facebook Marketplace scam. Went to meet someone in person, clacked the headphones and immediately knew they were plastic. Thank you Linus!
@@sqlevolicious I kinda doubt it got to that. Probably just the ISP blocking the domain or something instead, lol. And perhaps Apple threatening legal action on top of that.
ngl if they put some effort into the driver/sensor tuning and made the housing aluminum instead of plastic, they could easily raise the price to $250 and have a significantly better and closer knock-off
I absolutely love these types of videos where Linus is given some sort of wonky or likely bad product and we just get to watch his blind reaction to all the weird or wonky stuff
I hear you but I like the Apple cans more. Pricey yes but they’re always on sale and the quick connect to my phone and Apple TV is worth it for me. I also think their sound is very balanced and was pleasantly surprised with how close they came to my hifiman in comparison.
@@mattschwartzstein3159 I can understand but, for me, the APMs clamp too hard on my jaw and end up hurting after a few minutes while my Sennheiser headphones feel much better and get comparable sound. The APMs can be great if they don't put too much clamp pressure on your temples or jaw.
Sony is all-around decent for whatever price range you are targeting too. They have basically everything on every price range. if only they can fix their stupid naming scheme. Yes, I know it makes sense for their engineering team, but not everyone are science students.
@@fuisharu Damn that takes me back. I had my HD202's for like 10 years. I sat on them, I ran over the cable with my deskchair COUNTLESS times... and they just keep on trucking. I still have them in a box somewhere. Had to get new headphones though because the plastic railing was absolute garbage and on one side it wouldn't catch anymore.. like, AT ALL.
I wonder at what point there'll be a city/town/region in China named "California", so Chinese manufacturers can write "Designed in California" and maybe even "Made in California (PRC)" to confuse people
It did change several times as the channel grew (check out their videos from 7 and 4 years ago), but I like the current melody better than any of the earlier ones, and I'd be happy if they never changed it again.
I once got a pair of headphones on a plane that made it sound like the audio was being whispered into the back of your neck, and it was the most unsettling audio experience I've ever had. Well, it was the second most unsettling audio experience I've ever had. So when Linus was like "there's Jakes all around me" I got that. It really makes you feel like you're losing your mind.
I hate to be a shill, but I have been using the mic that sponsored this video for about three years now. Excellent product. Glad to see Linus representing good stuff while mocking the crap out there.
I tried the Anker speakerphone they've had as a sponsor once. Pretty great value, I must tell. Pity Jackery won't ship to my region, that sh*t looks awesome.
@@ZeAllMighty1 Lmao ofc he has the equipment, they have a thermal camera and with an entire workshop at their disposal they can stick a temp probe wherever they want in a ps5
Doubtful they are still around, these companies get raided by police often. They are probably sitting in a jail cell somewhere, lol. None of their company sites are up anymore, good indication they got caught.
@@sqlevolicious Not necessarily. It's quite possible the people behind the company work from overseas in China or or whereever. However, it is fairly easy for Apple to take those websites down since the website is most likely registered in US/CAN. I guess the people behind ProMax just sell the same product under a different name.
I was looking for a dead link in the description... the fact the dead link isn't there disappoints me. It was a perfectly good opportunity to slip in a subtle joke!
What scares me the most is people opening these and selling them without the box for 300usd as used ORIGINAL Apple product 😩 and 90% of buyers wouldn’t recognize if they didnt have real ones to compare 🥲
I bought a knockoff Apple Pencil and it syncs the same, feels the same, and is even identified in iPadOS the exact same as an authentic Apple Pencil. These companies must be getting access to Apple's tooling and IP.
Yeah, a little bribery goes a long way in the factories apple is contracting. While apple tries to safeguard everything, its not under their own roof and things get through all the time.
When the Apple iPad was first released, I waited for a knock off version of it. After some shipping problems, I eventually got it and that's when I learned I should have gotten the real iPad. This fake iPad obviously ran Android OS on it, but the experience using it was bad. It was slow, had a plastic touchscreen which "bounced" when I typed on it, and the battery life sucked. I think it was the first electronic device I just threw away after a month of use (normally I either erase and reinstall the OS on a computer and give it to a family member or sell it). Since then, I never bought a knock off electronic device - I stuck with the major brand names.
2:55 Yes it count as design if you design it to make it from cheaper material. You still need to design it a way to make it work with cheaper material and still get expected result and i don't think it is easy without loosing efficiency. 17:01 i wish you tested latency by playing a digital piano or something with it :D Latency display it horrible face more when you making live music with it
Buying Apple products from Facebook marketplace is dangerously risky, because people be selling fake products, gets the Imei number called apple to check - someone was trying to sell me a AirPod Pro I find out it was fake
no, they started wt the mindset for profit by ripping other's product that was built from some heavy investment. They will not innovate they most probably will just reverse engineer and rebrand some stuffs.
@@redcoffeemug7275 Or they attract attention for market share, than will do original stuff. Just sayin' that many companies did exactly tat before. They dont even need to sell this ones, sent for "reviews", but could be a marketing gimmik. ;)
I like very much that you add the splash text in the corner telling us whether he's has the fake ones on or the real ones on during the review process. I really wish other RUclipsrs would do the same for the products that they are comparing. Thank you very much
6:10 Team should do more blind tests and troll the reviewers more. So much is biased if even the "correct box" in the hallway can make speakers sound better for the reviewers. Would have been awesome to see what Linus would say if not knowing which item he really uses. Lighter is crappier, oh wait, apple is lighter etc etc.. Sound is even more biased than feel if fakes aren't utter garbage.
For headphones, I shop for lightweight over almost everything else. For comfort reasons. It's completely barmy to add weights. I understand it feels premium, but it also ruins a major selling point.
What Linus said about "in-between" products is very true, and same goes for watches. You can buy a fake rolex for $50 and it will be quite shit, but it will sort of look like a rolex. However, if you got and pay $400-500 you will be getting a replica that can quite easily pass of as real.
I love how the verdict was "these are shit, but compared to the actual thing, I won't stop you from buying them." It says alot about Apple as a company
@@retrocomputing because if you can buy something that's cheaper and sounds better you should. Im not saying buying the knockoffs are better, but what I am saying is Linus clearly said you can buy headphones sub $200 that sound better than a real pair of the AirPod Max. For that reason, I think you should care if things are overpriced. Because at that point you end up paying for a brand and NOT a product. Hence why Apple is a terrible company. It's a cult
@@kellenwalburn5238 can you show a 200 USD wireless headphones pair with NC, transparency mode and the same build quality? The build quality thing is something that many people enjoy. Some product categories have a premium segment that's dedicated to build quality only because the functionality is the same as low/mid price offerings. Do you think these products are bad too?
@@retrocomputing you're an Apple fanboy aren't you? Only an apple fan could justify spending $600+ just for materials that would cost half that in most products. How much do people throw their headphones against a wall to justify it? To which I raise you this: (according to Merriam Webster) Cult- a situation in which people admire and care about SOMETHING or someone VERY MUCH or TOO MUCH.
7:10 - Plastic is BETTER! Remember when they first released these headphones how within an hour, people's ears were literally dripping and the headphones would start corroding from "water damage" due to the metal chassis that apple so greatly designed then refused to admit fault when people returned these headphones due to this condensation issue? There is a reason nobody makes the shell of headphones out of solid METAL ffs! lol ...Except the Jeniuses at Crapple, of course, the same people who think the best spot for a cord to charge your wireless mouse is underneath it not on the front like all others so that it can still be used as a wired looking mouse while charging (plus only 1 day's worth of charge vs 1 year like other brands.)
lol. seeing this and having seen daves2d one ( for a while now) you can clearly see who is more of an apple produc guy ( yeah Dave could go from the packagin, color and wht not to tell diferencec) yet so much fun in this one lol
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"that was a straightforward disassembly process..." and from that you unmistakably recognise them as non Apple
"awe i need to take apart my airpods to fix the--why is there a gun to the back of my head?"
@@ghomerhust 😂😂😂
That may be the actual weight difference. Screws versus glue and plastic clips. Mind you Apple plastic clips are generally good but it isn't hard to make a good plastic interference lock.
"Wow, I didn't get a Lawyer at my door or a signed autograph from Louis Rossman when I opened these badboys"
@@ghomerhust "Why is the glue in my airpods stronger than the padlocks used by the military?"
17:46 Linus: "Are these a great value? No, but you were shopping for AirPods Max so you probably didn't care about that anyway"
Gotta appreciate the little roasts he throws in there
Yeag, watch his facial expression as he says it too, priceless!
AKA morons
@@aa-tx7th why are you like this
@@licht4808 ikr
@@licht4808 Cause he's right
I imagined them to say “da Bluetooth de device is ready to pair” xD
I hate that I know what you are talking about 😂
I even read it with the weird female robot voice
*de bluetooth device is reedy to pear*
So if you have a really tiny radioactive source at the right angle you are completely safe from the lead
De buroutooth devais is-a ready topeier
Bahahahah, ashamed I know exactly what you mean.
Haven’t seen Linus reviewing knock-off products for a while. This sure brings back nostalgia.
@@ALEXA-by2rr I know they wouldn't do it if it didn't work but the fact that they still try even though they have to put all this crap to bypass the spam filter is crazy to me
@@notcat56 wrong commenter bro x
@@yermah9809 I meant to reply to the spammer bro x
It hasn't been that long since he reviewed his fake merch
Imma get you the 1000th like
Really appreciate the time stamps youtubers are doing nowadays
@@gmdking every comment in this comment section has a bot
A knockoff Apple products channel called “Apple to Apple?”
@@SnailSlugSlut
Probably not a knockoff. Probably extra production at the same facility
@@zanewaits8026 Auto captions can be nice when they’re around as well, but those two are golden
AI does most of the timestamps
It's weird seeing a headphones review without hearing 'walk through the park' through some freakish ears on a stick
Really missed the aussie mic check
Stinky videos are how i review headphones always.
and without being told about the missing souuunstage, that's how wiiiide and Three dee they sound
Your pfp gives me coffee break flashbacks...
@@tonzku. how so?
When even the counterfeit is much more expensive than an actual good pair of different-branded headphones.
Has probably something to do with that people at least think they buy something "premium" I just bought some Real Pure from Teufel (cable version) there is also a BT and BT witch NC version (Cable Version around 100€, BT Version 130-140€ and BT + NC Version i think around 170€)
If you're in the market for airpods max or clones I don't think you care about getting value for money, you just want to show off
The makers saw how stupid the average mac user is and thought they could get away with it.
@@pixels_per_inch had no chance to try them yet but i stay away from BT Headphones cause mine usually last longer then any BT headphones would cause of the battery degrading.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Yes and no, while I personally only have ever owned MBP's as Apple products which is in my opinion overall far, far better than any PC laptop, Apple is all about the whole feeling, everything(well partly) is in the details, like in this video everything has this quality feel, from how you extend the size of the headband, to how they adjust to your head. This is what Apple most likely do best. And that is what their buyers are after. I guess it's easy to compare to the watch industry where you have wristwatches to around $500 that some feel is excellent product with a high quality feel to it, and then you have Rolex.. But I am not so sure I would in general put Apple at the Rolex in the industry.. Oh and myself I have a few Sony and Sennheiser headphones myself.
"The mesh seems....... pretty meshy."
Ah yes, the floor is made out of floor.
I’m not re watching it cuz idc but I thought he said mushy
@@iamsmashy That would be like saying the floor is made out of flour.
the snow is snowier
-jeb
اوس جواد
Ah yes, people die when they are killed
Slowly but surely, everything in the studio is getting foiled with Linus' Face lol
@Kajus Tuzikas didn't you see the custom scale? That's what I meant lol
@@techjan3247 Face, some laptops, some phones... I get it. And you are probably right ^^
yes
It'd be really great if they slap Linus' face on their LTT mousepads, would automatically be sold out within the first few minutes of launch considering how fast their usual mousepads run out of stock
It's way higher of a value to get sony's or senheisers instead of these knock-offs. No warranty on these bad boys, even if they look and act similar to the real deal.
Preorder a pixel 6 and you get I think Bose 700s free, Sennheiser have some very good offerings at that price point though
@@fewik8567 this is only in some European countries, unfortunately
Also their longevity might not be good, and they don't have an headphone jack
But those are better than original airpods max, most people who buy the airpods max are buying them bcoz of the brand, so might as well get these and save 350$
but ur avatar comes from a knock-off game...?
"We guarantee that this is the best headphone under 200 bucks"
Audiophile community : Bruh
Audiophools probably don't care; they wouldn't be caught in the same room with headphones that cost _only_ $200.
@@hellterminator Nope dude, you have it all wrong, there a hell lot of audiophile level detailed headphones/IEMs under a 100$ that absolutely obliterate any apple audio product.
@@giri_k07 except for the Apple DAC
@@nalsai Yes, that's true but I think here we are talking about headphones/in ears etc.
Sure a lot of audiophiles are here, so I want to ask: Is AKG K371 good?
I would have liked to see a blind listening test. Have a person who didn't know which one was which, put the headphones on their heads, and let them tell you which sounded better.
99% would fail
@@Ffoo_ffighter I agree and Linus would look bad 😂
@@MKFishing666yeah no, the sound signature is NOTHING like any of the higher end airpods it's not quality, but tuning. Those knockoffs are VERY bass heavy vs the pretty overall flat real pair, and would be immediately noticable. I get that it seems like one of those dumb audiophile things, but headphone tuning and sound signatures actually matter, vs actual snake oil.
Everyone else: "DJI's new camera is going to change everything!"
Linus: "Check out these knock-off headphones!"
Lmfao yup. I just came from Corridor Digital's video on the Ronin
Because they know people will still watch
@@mohit_panjwani i watch every Linus media group video so yes you are right
Can't film it too close to airport
the ProMax MAX max is where it's at 💪
And that's fax bruh
Max fax
I'm calling these the FauxMax
the ProMax SmartMaxPlusProMax
Yo Max dawg, i heard you like-
“Are these a great value…no…and because you’re looking to buy AirpodsMax, you don’t care anyway.” Oof.
LMAO😂
To my ears these 3rd Gen Air pods are more comfortable compared to the newer Pro version with the soft gel tips. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxgl8SzyQoymMu-S3V55Dskg5QJ8xr1yCR That said, compared to the 3rd Gen, I notice these do not stay planted in the ear as well. One design issue I think, is you squeeze the stem and click it twice to advance your songs. On 3rd gen you tap the large speaker. The difference is by grabbing the stem each time, you tend to loosen the bud fit in your ear. Not always, but the bud falls out a few times while running. The old tap to change never had that problem for me. I would not have changed that tap function. That said, the newer Pro version sticks in the ear, almost airtight if you want that. I do not like that Airtight fit. So that's why I'd stay with this version as the best trade off of comfort, use, and overall feel.
Yep total garbage, only decent clones worth their money are propulse pods for me. My son works in an apple store and he couldn't even tell they were clones when i gave him his christmas present lol
i got some as well
lol so true
either your son is incompetent or those clones are good as hell, imma check them out for sure
I hope they release the max clone as their replicas are usually as good as the real deal
@@siennaharding7025 incompetence is pretty much a hiring requirement for apple. Phone screen broken ? "WOULD YOU LIKE TO UPGRADE TO THE MAC ULTRA WITH 1000$ WHEELS ???????? NO ? YOU MUST BE A BROKE LOSER. I GUESS WE CAN'T ALL HAVE INFINITE MONEY HUH PFF HAHA" That's pretty much the experience I have from ever shopping at an apple store.
"We can guarantee that this is the best headphones available under the $200 mark"
quick, someone hold DankPods' beer
He will find like 200 options that are better lol
if you think about trusting dankpods' headphone reviews be wary that he's been drumming for years and likely has some form of hearing loss in the treble frequencies.
They might be right if you're only considering wireless headphones with all of the features they have. Obviously they can't compete with an old school pair of wired headphones like the Sony MDR7506, but the battery, amplifier, microphones, etc. is the majority of the cost. Converting the MDR7506 into wireless headphones with the same features would cost more than $100.
@@jayleno2192 Yeah, that's so obvious. I don't understand how that's not a given to people. Of course if someone says something like that about wireless headphones with a bunch of features, it's meant to be compared with other headphones with similar features.
No sane person is going to say that $200 wireless headphones will provide the absolute best sound quality of any headphones at that price point.
@@moltenhydrogen2218 I followed them and are quite satisfied with my purchases
Ever since RoHS took effect, lead weights have become pretty rare. Most people use a tungsten alloy that has the same density as lead. It could be lead though, it's hard to tell from the video.
It's definitely not tungsten. Tungsten is super expensive. Tungsten also isn't malleable at room temperature. I'd say it could be led. It's most likely a steel alloy, not straight up steel.
Probably zink, but certainly not improbable its actually lead. Zink is reasonably close to density of lead, easily cast, machined and processed (softer than gold), low toxicity, and cheap. One of the cheapest common-use metals these days, along with lead and iron.
Could be tin too, tin like zink has many of the same or very close properties as lead (including patina when moderately oxidized), but tin is way closer in hardness to lead. Tin is way more expensive though, but oxidize less easily. Zink is commonly used as a sacrificial anode on marine vessels and equipment, because of its mode of oxidation and corrosion, and it's low cost considering its relatively massive galvanic potential distance from most other metals including most steels.
Zink is still ~50% more expensive than lead (per weight, about equal per volume) but tin is 15 times as expensive as lead (per weight). Lead is in a few aspects more costly than it once was, but it's still half the price of mild steel.
In these very small quantities for a high value vs material use product, pricing isn't really that much of a consideration though. There's serious expenditures sunken into making this thing be as it is in most other aspects; it's certainly not a minimum cost production. They'd easily go with tin over zink or lead if that provided some other small process or availability benefit.
help, I need tungsten to live, tungsteeen!!
@@pr0xZen Pure steel yes, especially if you are using grades like 316 yes. A steel alloy is fractions of pure zink. Steel alloys are mixed with other metals usually made from recycled parts, making them fractions cheaper. Steel has a very weird state of properties depending on how it's forged and what other things are forged with it.. Take damascus steel for example. To this day the original damascus process is lost to time. If you heat steel and quench it in oil it will absorb the carbon. Steel has a very broad set properties.
This video just saved me from a Facebook Marketplace scam. Went to meet someone in person, clacked the headphones and immediately knew they were plastic. Thank you Linus!
I still don’t know if mine I bought from fb marketplace are fake or not
These knock-offs are so good, they knocked off Promax's website.
The thing is I can't tell which product he's using until he starts talking about it
The police most likely raided them and knocked them offline, lol.
@@sqlevolicious I kinda doubt it got to that. Probably just the ISP blocking the domain or something instead, lol. And perhaps Apple threatening legal action on top of that.
@@maxhoyle7040 Yeah, visually they look similar, but in terms of feel and sound they're very different. That's where the distinction becomes apparent.
The amount of shade in this episode makes it at least carbon neutral.
Unfortunately, this lot shading would result in 0% PV panel output.
Best part of the review
5:47
"the mesh seems... meshy. "
-Linus Sebastian, The great philosopher
guys, he finally closed his mouth in the thumbnails.
They were closed a week ago
@@sameermohideen4913 lol why do you remember that
He was just having a really long yawn
I hate when they close their mouths
He must be really proud of his teeth until now
ngl if they put some effort into the driver/sensor tuning and made the housing aluminum instead of plastic, they could easily raise the price to $250 and have a significantly better and closer knock-off
I absolutely love these types of videos where Linus is given some sort of wonky or likely bad product and we just get to watch his blind reaction to all the weird or wonky stuff
5:28 Savage - haven't actually looked at the Airpods Max since our review because "why would I?" Ikr most people just get XM4s or m50x or Bose ANCs.
I hear you but I like the Apple cans more. Pricey yes but they’re always on sale and the quick connect to my phone and Apple TV is worth it for me. I also think their sound is very balanced and was pleasantly surprised with how close they came to my hifiman in comparison.
@@mattschwartzstein3159 I can understand but, for me, the APMs clamp too hard on my jaw and end up hurting after a few minutes while my Sennheiser headphones feel much better and get comparable sound.
The APMs can be great if they don't put too much clamp pressure on your temples or jaw.
LOL honestly.. The personalized letter seems pretty damn sincere lol
Gotta give them credit where credit is due, they did an excellent job copying it. There’s definitely rooms for improvement but damn was I impressed.
www.youtubeuis.com/watch?v=iAV1tQaJOw6s
"haven't looked at the apple headphone in a while because why would I"
Sennheiser gang 4 life
Well u can buy good products like bose and sennheiser or u buy samsung and apple original stuff. Its up to you lol
Sony> for average consumer who likes wireless.
my Sennheiser HD202 still works like a magic
Sony is all-around decent for whatever price range you are targeting too. They have basically everything on every price range.
if only they can fix their stupid naming scheme. Yes, I know it makes sense for their engineering team, but not everyone are science students.
@@fuisharu Damn that takes me back.
I had my HD202's for like 10 years.
I sat on them, I ran over the cable with my deskchair COUNTLESS times... and they just keep on trucking.
I still have them in a box somewhere.
Had to get new headphones though because the plastic railing was absolute garbage and on one side it wouldn't catch anymore.. like, AT ALL.
The accidental switcheroo legit had me howling!
LOL I can already see the squadron of Apple lawyers descending on "Apole" in their "California design studio."
well i understand why
crapple were *first* to ripoff idiots with massively overpriced e-waste garbage
I wonder at what point there'll be a city/town/region in China named "California", so Chinese manufacturers can write "Designed in California" and maybe even "Made in California (PRC)" to confuse people
@@alex15095 THAT is a genius idea! You might even get away with something like an office address with a building named California or something.
11:04 there was a missed opportunity to do a zoom in of Linus failing to click transparency 4 times 😂
It's crazy how convincing these fakes have become.
Alot of stuff gets better. Just look at the Chinese "fake" Legos they quality these days is awesome especially for the price.
It's because apple uses the same cheap Chinese parts as all the fakers.
It's because apple uses the same cheap Chinese parts as all the fakers.
@@joeycampbell940 Well, yeah but its the other way around. The fakers use the same cheap Chinese parts apple use. The apple one came first. :)
@@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard nope the total wireless ones at Walmart came first.
"The mesh feels meshy" - Linus '21.
Better meshy than mushy or messy :D
Ken from Computer Clan actually covered about this product in detail actually but seeing Linus joining on the ride too is a great addition.
As a sound technician, that eq was one of the more painful parts of the video
I am going to make a complaint, this made my 2W mono headphone sound poor! 😂
😂 😂 😂 I felt it too.
Why?
In fairness, the Apple version they were trying to replicate won't be the best sound quality, so the target wasn't great.
I'm not even a sound technician and that hurt to look at, I can only imagine how nasty that looked to you
I like that LTT’s intro music never changes.
I mean they did change it once, but I hope they don't change it ever again
I’ve been here long enough to see it change at least 3 times
It did change several times as the channel grew (check out their videos from 7 and 4 years ago), but I like the current melody better than any of the earlier ones, and I'd be happy if they never changed it again.
www.youtubeuis.com/watch?v=qiXHJzvo3Pn8
@@andreirachko damn. You guys are the real OG. Respec !
Props to the editor for keeping track of which one is real and which one is fake.
I still die everytime I see the Linus meme items, that scale unveil had me in stitches.
Best sh!tpost we ever did. -- Dbrand
We need a Dankpods collab vid, Linus!
you have named something i didn't know i wanted oh my god
@@cashnelson2306 You're just angry at his cashies videos
Try watching him again, this time with your phone upside down.
Follow me for some more Tech Tips.
damn i found the original comment. frick verified comment
@@cashnelson2306 so you just called dank pods worse but you clearly haven't watch his videos
I once got a pair of headphones on a plane that made it sound like the audio was being whispered into the back of your neck, and it was the most unsettling audio experience I've ever had. Well, it was the second most unsettling audio experience I've ever had. So when Linus was like "there's Jakes all around me" I got that. It really makes you feel like you're losing your mind.
I hate to be a shill, but I have been using the mic that sponsored this video for about three years now. Excellent product. Glad to see Linus representing good stuff while mocking the crap out there.
I tried the Anker speakerphone they've had as a sponsor once. Pretty great value, I must tell. Pity Jackery won't ship to my region, that sh*t looks awesome.
That dukem nukem costplay tho in the sponsor page in the beginning is a god sent image
I NEED TO KNOW WHERE & WHEN THAT'S FROM!
Lol, I thought that was a skin in Fortnite
@@_atinsy how could you
@@William.5587 lol
For anyone wondering, It's Linus' review of the Duke Nukem edition Gtx 560 from his NCIX days ruclips.net/video/FgfXLe7rTSg/видео.html
For the 200ish range I would suggest Sennheiser HD 6xx. One of the best IMO
They reviewed it before
so in the end they're the same as the original:
not living up to their manufacturer's claims and not worth their asking price
Facts 😂
Exactly
Still better value for money which says a lot more about how bad the originals were
I expect a dave2d shoutout in this video
LTT should really do a 'ASMR Monday'
Man I was so happy seeing “The Fearless Flyers” in one of their demo tracks
Do you know what app they are using for the eq by any chance?
0:45
Duke linus: say hello to my little pc
😂😂
What equalizer app are you using??
Linus, do a video on Dbrand's Darkplates vs the regular PS5 plates in terms of thermals. They have a new design that should lower the temps.
He doesn’t have the equipment or know how to pull that off. A video from gamers nexus about it though would be interesting.
@@ZeAllMighty1 Lmao ofc he has the equipment, they have a thermal camera and with an entire workshop at their disposal they can stick a temp probe wherever they want in a ps5
@@ZeAllMighty1 Thermocouples are $3 on ebay.
These guys are definitely taking notes and their next product is going to be soo good lmfao
Doubtful they are still around, these companies get raided by police often. They are probably sitting in a jail cell somewhere, lol. None of their company sites are up anymore, good indication they got caught.
@@sqlevolicious Not necessarily. It's quite possible the people behind the company work from overseas in China or or whereever. However, it is fairly easy for Apple to take those websites down since the website is most likely registered in US/CAN. I guess the people behind ProMax just sell the same product under a different name.
8:01 Linus’ laugh is so cute 😂😂😂
You're not wrong
Wait Dave2D did the same exact video a month ago or so..
Ayyyy the Fearless Flyers are such a good jazz band
17:46 Linus: "Are these a great value? No, but you were shopping for AirPods Max so you probably didn't care about that anyway"
oh Linus do I love you
I am using the Soundcore Q30 Life since you guys have done a review on it. I am totally happy with it.
9:49 he sounded indian for a second
Thank you, come again.
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I was looking for a dead link in the description... the fact the dead link isn't there disappoints me. It was a perfectly good opportunity to slip in a subtle joke!
What scares me the most is people opening these and selling them without the box for 300usd as used ORIGINAL Apple product 😩 and 90% of buyers wouldn’t recognize if they didnt have real ones to compare 🥲
Ight im gonna head out to scam some apple posers
Cos they are using apple products in first place?
Stoked to see that you were listening to The Fearless Flyers in this video. The crossover I didn't know I needed
3:20
AUDIOPHILES REJOICE!
I bought a knockoff Apple Pencil and it syncs the same, feels the same, and is even identified in iPadOS the exact same as an authentic Apple Pencil. These companies must be getting access to Apple's tooling and IP.
Yeah, a little bribery goes a long way in the factories apple is contracting. While apple tries to safeguard everything, its not under their own roof and things get through all the time.
I mean all apple products are made in China
No pressure sensitivity.
170 Mega-Amp-Henrys?
What an interesting way to measure capacity.
If accurate, that's a massive amount.
I prefer to measure battery capacities in nanojoule-farad-siemens.
When he says "apples box quality is better" when he's unboxing the real ones got me
No matter how ridiculously overpriced AirPods Max are, they're obviously better than the sub 200 dollar knockoffs
I mean yes. I have nothing to say against it
not really they are only slightly better. also, there are other headphones that rate sub $200 that are better than real ones.
@@airischan4554 WHY ARE BOTS SHOWING UP THIS EARLY?
Isn't that obvious for every single knockoff
@@airischan4554 silence bot
"Gained access." It's likely the manufacturer that Apple hired to produce the official Pods.
I doubt that the original airpods manufacturer is making this knockoff, they probably just leaked/sold the schematics to someone else
Where to buy the fakes?
When the Apple iPad was first released, I waited for a knock off version of it. After some shipping problems, I eventually got it and that's when I learned I should have gotten the real iPad. This fake iPad obviously ran Android OS on it, but the experience using it was bad. It was slow, had a plastic touchscreen which "bounced" when I typed on it, and the battery life sucked. I think it was the first electronic device I just threw away after a month of use (normally I either erase and reinstall the OS on a computer and give it to a family member or sell it).
Since then, I never bought a knock off electronic device - I stuck with the major brand names.
Yeah it's much better to buy from a cheap but major brand than a fake one
I loved watching Linus mildly freak out while trying to figure out which one was real.
2:55 Yes it count as design if you design it to make it from cheaper material. You still need to design it a way to make it work with cheaper material and still get expected result and i don't think it is easy without loosing efficiency.
17:01 i wish you tested latency by playing a digital piano or something with it :D Latency display it horrible face more when you making live music with it
What is that app on 14:06 ?
Linus's face on the scale had me 💀
Buying Apple products from Facebook marketplace is dangerously risky, because people be selling fake products, gets the Imei number called apple to check - someone was trying to sell me a AirPod Pro I find out it was fake
Shots fired 😆 Though impressive how they got so close to what is bad headphones in the first place for the price.
Honestly I feel this company could legitimately grow themselves if they made their own products, they have at least some potential
no, they started wt the mindset for profit by ripping other's product that was built from some heavy investment. They will not innovate they most probably will just reverse engineer and rebrand some stuffs.
@@redcoffeemug7275 Or they attract attention for market share, than will do original stuff. Just sayin' that many companies did exactly tat before. They dont even need to sell this ones, sent for "reviews", but could be a marketing gimmik. ;)
I like very much that you add the splash text in the corner telling us whether he's has the fake ones on or the real ones on during the review process. I really wish other RUclipsrs would do the same for the products that they are comparing. Thank you very much
6:10 Team should do more blind tests and troll the reviewers more. So much is biased if even the "correct box" in the hallway can make speakers sound better for the reviewers. Would have been awesome to see what Linus would say if not knowing which item he really uses. Lighter is crappier, oh wait, apple is lighter etc etc.. Sound is even more biased than feel if fakes aren't utter garbage.
For headphones, I shop for lightweight over almost everything else. For comfort reasons. It's completely barmy to add weights. I understand it feels premium, but it also ruins a major selling point.
Lighter headphones don't stay in place as well. The weight of the cord slowly pulls it off your head.
@@angolin9352 this is wireless though
anyone got link to these fakes
Video Idea! Build a gaming PC with the lease amount of screws possible, would be fun to see what can get a way with 1 or even no screws!
Damn you getting all the ladies
Do not encourage that side of linus.
What Linus said about "in-between" products is very true, and same goes for watches. You can buy a fake rolex for $50 and it will be quite shit, but it will sort of look like a rolex. However, if you got and pay $400-500 you will be getting a replica that can quite easily pass of as real.
Even if the headphones are bass heavy, removing Joe Dart's bass at 13:57 is a crime
5:23 - The ecole-system?
Looking forward to your Apole watch review. Should be entertaining. 😁
$550 for the real ones like $200 seems like what the real ones should be
"Try biting it."
lmao. dude secretly wanted to kill linus
It's fine as long as you don't swallow :D
@@ToxNano it absorbs into your blood just by having it in your mouth
“I’d wear pants made out of that” -Linus Sebastian, 2021
There it is
mixing up the two was hilarious
as a buyer and seller of used apple products. this is legit scary af to be out there.
Imagine if pro max was apple's "second account"
Apole Claifornia
I mean, the question is if the knockoffs are worth it for the price.
I mean if they are, *not that bad?*
I love how the verdict was "these are shit, but compared to the actual thing, I won't stop you from buying them." It says alot about Apple as a company
The question is - why do you care if something is overpriced?
@@retrocomputing because if you can buy something that's cheaper and sounds better you should. Im not saying buying the knockoffs are better, but what I am saying is Linus clearly said you can buy headphones sub $200 that sound better than a real pair of the AirPod Max. For that reason, I think you should care if things are overpriced. Because at that point you end up paying for a brand and NOT a product. Hence why Apple is a terrible company. It's a cult
@@kellenwalburn5238 can you show a 200 USD wireless headphones pair with NC, transparency mode and the same build quality? The build quality thing is something that many people enjoy. Some product categories have a premium segment that's dedicated to build quality only because the functionality is the same as low/mid price offerings. Do you think these products are bad too?
@@kellenwalburn5238 how do you define a cult?
@@retrocomputing you're an Apple fanboy aren't you? Only an apple fan could justify spending $600+ just for materials that would cost half that in most products. How much do people throw their headphones against a wall to justify it?
To which I raise you this: (according to Merriam Webster)
Cult- a situation in which people admire and care about SOMETHING or someone VERY MUCH or TOO MUCH.
7:10 - Plastic is BETTER! Remember when they first released these headphones how within an hour, people's ears were literally dripping and the headphones would start corroding from "water damage" due to the metal chassis that apple so greatly designed then refused to admit fault when people returned these headphones due to this condensation issue? There is a reason nobody makes the shell of headphones out of solid METAL ffs! lol ...Except the Jeniuses at Crapple, of course, the same people who think the best spot for a cord to charge your wireless mouse is underneath it not on the front like all others so that it can still be used as a wired looking mouse while charging (plus only 1 day's worth of charge vs 1 year like other brands.)
Ever heard of Philips Fidelio X1/X2? Or Audeze LCD. There's plenty of metal headphones
So when is the review for the Apole iFone 13 ProMax
Now grab the popcorn and a chair because it’s your favourite time of the day. LINUS TECH TIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPSSSSSS!!!
Why so many bots?
@@gmdking because bot creators have no life
@@andrew-71 okay, but why ltt?
@@gmdking I really do not know. It worries me. Just report them and they should go away eventually
@@gmdking they have been on all videos of I have commented on. Even 3 years ago and commented today. Help me.
This was an awesome video 🙏 I'd love to see some more teardowns of knockoffs vs brand name
Clamping pressure ought to be easily made to be adjustable with the angle auto aligning according to the setting selected.
lol. seeing this and having seen daves2d one ( for a while now) you can clearly see who is more of an apple produc guy ( yeah Dave could go from the packagin, color and wht not to tell diferencec) yet so much fun in this one lol
I'm honestly really impressed with how well they ripped off the look and how many features they managed to replicate/steal.
They also solved Condensation problem