That Time Art was an Official Olympic Sport
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When Baron Pierre de Coubertin founded the International Olympic Committee (IOC) in 1894, he declared that one of the missions of the modern Olympiad would be “to reunite in the bonds of legitimate wedlock a long-divorced couple - Muscle and Mind.” To the Baron, Olympic competition wasn’t just going to be about physical athletics, but sports of the mind as well - and there are fewer greater “sports of the mind” than the arts. From 1912 to 1948, in seven Olympiads, over 151 Olympic medals were awarded in artistic competitions.
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I got caught doping by doing acid before the painting
Bruh
I always thought that art wasn't in the Olympics because its subjectiveness makes it impossible to judge. This is fascinating.
One could also say that about Figure Skating(Ice Dancing especially) since artistry is something like 30% of the overall score.
Or the gymnastics floor excercises, which is highly technical dancing. Is it art or athletics?
@@karenhaller9988 For Women's Gymnastics ,Yes. Also, Synchronized Swimming..
Karen Haller I made a comment just today, before I saw your comment. I thought about how diverse it could make future artists. Like, learning about different fabrics used in this country or that country, or what mediums people in *whatever country* use for sculpting, etc. Heck, just make an Art Olympics! There are so many categories to choose from, but like you said, it is very subjective, so I have no idea what the criterion would be for the "winner". Cheers! ~Susan
It's quite amazing that my great-granddad won a silver medal in the 1924 Olympics and he brought towels from there to his home, which are currently in my closet.
You use 95 year old towels? Interesting.
@@Game...007 hahah no, they're just sitting in there
KOLMEKAKKONE ...Cool a.f.
You might want to find out how to preserve textiles if you plan to continue passing them down. A shadow box with his picture, medal and one of the towels would make a great display piece for your family.
@@Nirrrina I asked my father about the medals, and apparently they were stolen by soviet soldiers during the winter war. My great grandfather lived in Karelia, an area that was handed over to the soviets because of the peace terms. He hid the medals, but they had to leave the area and their house asap, so they had other things to worry about than some medals (they had 9 children and cattle). Some soviets then obviously founded them and stole them, so rip the medals, but my guess is that they still exist in somewhere in the former ussr area, maybe the soldier who took those past them to their relatives or something.
Weird. Olympic art sounds more like a Monty Python sketch about Picasso painting in front of a live audience: "And now he's changing to the medium brush - I believe that the otter hair one, .... yes it is, aaaand he goes for *brown* this time. It looks like burnt umber ... no, no, I am being told that's siena. He's going for siena and he poises the tip of the brush..."
Frankly, _NOT_ having the live performance is against the very *idea* of the Olymics, if you ask me. What good is a painting or a poem that the artist _claims_ to have produced all by himself in the given time frame? We don't do that with 100m dash times, do we? We have them perform _live_ in order to verify the result.
I would be _very_ interested to see arts return to the Olympics under the condition that the contestants have to perform *live* within a given time frame. Now _that_ I would watch.
Agree 100% with you. Also, I totally read that Python scene with Eric Idle's voice in my head.
Ironic that art was done away with due to the question of professionals and now there's golf in the Olympics played by all pros
Professionals are now allowed to play in the olympics. The big moment was at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992 when several members of the US Basketball team were famous NBA athletes.
@4:10 Correction: the 1920 Olympics were in Antwerp, not Berlin, as the shown image states.
I notice this slip in the information as well. I a m surprised I realized he mis spoke
Irony: Hitler showed more respect to Jesse Owens than FDR did.
You know you done screwed up when you're more racist than Hitler!
@@Michaeljack81sk Not congratulating someone is a different level from declaring them subhuman.
@@Markle2k I know that, I was being hyperbolic to make a point about bad FDR was. I don't honestly think he was anywhere near as bad as Hitler
Yea most world leaders were pieces of shit back than. Obviously Hitler was, but FDR had his moments for sure.
FDR snubbed Owens, in 1960 Eisenhower (well, not he himself, he was just running things then) in a way snubbed Ali, placing accordance to Kim Crow Laws above honoring a gold medalist who honored the country (just try and find where is Ali's gold medal today) and then people had the audacity to cry out when John Carlos raised that fist in 1968! REALLY???
At the Olympics a man went up to a competitor who was carrying a very long pole.
"Are you a pole vaulter?"
"No, I'm German, but how did you know my name is Walter?"
I know some other Olympic jokes but they are kinda distasteful.
@@Kenxclout It's OK to stick with the "oldie but goodie".
Ken Fulton {Baby Elder} - We won’t report you, please share a few! 😁
Erin Thorkildsen Ok hopefully no ones gets offended
I went to the special Olympics it was great had to park far from the stadium though
Ken Fulton {Baby Elder} Ha!
bonus fact about Jesse Owens was fascinting. i had no idea
Yeah those were probably some of the most brutal bonus facts of this series. Ouch!
Interesting Bonus Fact about Owens and Hitler. I was not aware that is how it went down.
It's like art being an actual major in college.
Several billion dollar industry cater to that that category. People don't think of the size of the industry besides pure art industry and all the practical och cgi art in hollywood their is
www.statista.com/statistics/817601/worldwide-animation-market-size/
and
Video game artist industry
techcrunch.com/2019/01/22/video-game-revenue-tops-43-billion-in-2018-an-18-jump-from-2017/
probably more but i am drawing a blank
Most refreshing subject matter today...One doesn't get to hear the real Jesse Owens story very often,either...Congrats and 👍
I have heard it before, but it´s definitely worth repeating
5:45 I honestly thought you were going to say "Despite being French, he was greatly respected." and then the next sentence.
Bob ross would have won that, coming out of the military he wasn't a "pro".... Yet :D
So did that amateur rule just go out the window along the way? I'm pretty sure soccer, basketball, tennis, hockey, and a whole bunch more, are full of exclusively professional athletes now.
During the cold war the USA, USSR, China, England, and other countries had people in their military whose only job was to train for the Olympics. I was stationed with a guy who was training to be an Olympic swimmer in the U.S. Army. He was exempt from showing up to formations and pulling any duties.
No. Professional athletes are still not allowed.
I think that rule was dropped a while back, at the 1992 Olympics where the first "dream team" of basketball players from the USA just stomped on every other team. That team was full of basketball legends like Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and.... well you get the point that is why they called it the dream team. Before 1992 the American basketball team was top rated college players.
@@andiward7068
In many sports pros are allowed, they just are not allowed to get paid for the Oympic itself. Expenses are allowed, and it was tricks with expenses that got people competing in Track and Field as professions, under the table. Dwight Stones was a master at exploiting expenses. Pay goes to the team and there was only member of his team, Dwight. Others used similar maneuvers.
@@andiward7068 They are allowed since 1988.
In movies sometimes people get killed by having their brake lines cut. Could something like that even happen today? I imagine modern cars would be able to detect that type of damage. Also those scenes depict the breaks failing at a crucial moment to insure a deadly collision. Wouldn't you use the break while getting to the road, and realize that it doesn't work?
It's great to hear the real Jesse Owen's story. Simon, thanks for all the details.
wait you're telling me that Usain bolt isnt a professional runner? he's just some guy who showed up to run?
Tumo Mere I know it’s hard for athletes like runners to make money but I thought some of the teams sports like baseball and basketball have professional players on the olympic teams sometimes 🤔
No, no, no. Amateurism was a big part of the Olympics, yes, but only until the 1970s. After that, they slowly began to erase the amateur requirements until professionals were fully accepted beginning in the 1988 Olympic Games.
That look Simon gives when he says Jesse Owens had to ride the freight elevator to his own party in the hotel is a serious mood, and a valid one at that.
So Picasso painting while riding a bike isn't unprecedented? (Was going to link the video, but it got blocked.)
This was interesting, indeed. Makes sense art wouldn't be included for long in the Olympics, but it is an interesting thought. Nice video, and have a nice day. 😊
So, they can't have art in the Olympics but, they have competitive speed walking and competitive trampolining in the next Olympic games.
Competitive speed walking actually destroys people's legs
And?
@@adamkimara6919 The greatest sentence ever typed
not in school but i can still learn
6:58 damn, that's a weird story. I just can't imagine Hitler waving in a friendly way to a black sportsman. It's freakin' weird, but Jesse Owens had no reason to lie here so it's probably true.
why is it weird?
That Jessy Owens fact really says a lot on so many levels.
I'm going to bring this up to all my climbing friends who don't think it should be in the Olympics.
If farting was an Olympic sport then my dad would be a gold medalist
This thumbnail made me laugh haha It's like Art as a Sport? Wha?
Do we know when the brain food show is coming back? It is one of my all-time favorite podcasts and I'd hate to see it go. I know that one of them was moving at some point, but It's been a couple months since I last heard that and it's been almost a full two months since the last episode :(
Hey Simon have you ever wondered how contronyms like egregious or oversight came to exist?
I wish they had competitions for poetry, rhetoric, and/or debate. People would be interested in using words again, at the very least.
I agree as well! I can't stand how we are becoming a society (as far as the US) that is more interested in interacting with their PHONE than their family! I read somewhere that English teachers are seeing more and more text-speak in papers that kids write. How sad :(
Can u make a vid about Mary Babnik Brown, an American who donated her hair to the United States military during WW2. The hairs were used as crosshairs in Norden bombsights for bomber aircrafts
Wow. Good one A.H.
Finally, an Olympic event for me!
Go for gold!
I think it would be an interesting idea to add the arts back into the Olympics. There is also a large part of the population that doesn't make money from their art; they just do it for fun, sculpting or painting in their spare time, or whatever. And nowadays, why shouldn't a "professional" be allowed to compete if they make money from their art? I think that if the category was re-introduced, everyone would benefit from being made aware of new techniques, etc., from countries around the globe.
6:40 - Bonus fact
no one:
me: I got a gold medal in painting
MONEY RUINS EVERYTHING. Bring back the art competitions, & disqualify the overqualified. Period.
Now we have "sports" like rythmic gymnastics and ice dancing.
Sounds like a Biography on Jesse Owens is worth a look.
Why does your beard always appear to be green? White balance?
Edit: Are you a Leprechaun?
His beard is my joy!
Triple kudos for the Jesse Owens facts! Thanks ⭐️🥇🥇🥇🥇
Whistley boi!
IOC don't recognize those Artistic Events as sports
Flatland bmx is alot like figure skating, it is art in itself. But to make it a sport would be a nightmare. Style is to subjective and judging would also be a mess. Unless your capable of doing whatever it is that's being judged how you able to determine difficulty of it?
Where does one draw the line between art and sport?
One could argue skateboarding, figure skating, snowboarding, ski jumping are arts.
Using your muscles to move your body in a race or visual performance.
You could make that argument, but very few will buy it.
Said activities are largely performing stunts. They are physically difficult and do not contain artistic meaning.
The line doesn't really get blurred until synchronized swimming and other dance based activities.
And to show you the other side, when does drum corps/wgi stop being an art and start becoming a sport?
Can you eat spoiled food if you cook it? Eg: bad smelling meats & canned tuna that's been in a black car throughout summer.
Didn’t think I’d hear Barge as an intro
Bring the art categories back to the olympics! We now have professional athletes in the olympics. Why not professional artists!!
This explains Dressage then...
I wonder if you could add the Arts to Olympics in today's time? Speaking of Olympics, can we add Greco wrestling back in the Olympics? Also for the fun of it, can we add a competition that allows men women to compete each other? I'm thinking soccer or target shooting.
How may I take part in the art Olympic
That Thumbnail 🤔
“You also had some very fine people on both sides...”
- DJT
6:38 she wasn't the only person to film during the Olympics. I literally have a dvd with video from my Australian family on my mom's side. Hand crank camera footage from my ancestor who participated in the games. Contact me @lordpsi99 on Twitter for more information.
Figure skating is an art form
Hope they bring tattooing to the Olympics.
That’s crazy about Jesse Owens! I’m so glad times have changed. I hope the continue to change for the better! I can’t even wrap my mind around so many people being so prejudiced that it would be okay to treat a national gold metal athlete that way just because of the way he looks. I know people are still racist but at least they’re becoming the minority.....
I think we should call Art Competition as former Olympic events instead of former Olympic sports because if we consider activities like Painting, Music and literature as sporting activities then there's no difference between an Art and a mental sport
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It's crazy to think that the Olympics where brought back to end wars...
Seems like that didn't work out to well.
But Took art specifically to get out of gym class.
Why do I get an email and a RUclips notification when you post a new video. Just need the notification, email is super unnecessary.
Sad about Jesse Owens..😕
I hear aristocracy, but I read autocracy.
Antwerp hosted the 1920 games not Berlin as you said. Wifes Grandad won a gold in the swimming
You guys forgot to mention that the picture online of Hitler shaking hands with Owens is fake.
Professionals in the Olympic games! Surely it will never happen.
Hone body and mind. ART should be a added back it.
The old classical musicians thought you had to be in great shape to play great piano or violin ,etc.
I mean a lot of olympic sports aren't actually sports but arts
As an American this is sad American president treatment of the race. Although I know I cannot change the world, it is sometimes difficult to stand up for a country that was! Yes America! You dropped the ball .
Hands up who knew this from QI and felt smug
What happens to a person who breaks something priceless?
He did this one already.
My pfp would win
How can art be considered Sport when there is no competition?
any time 2 or more people are performing the same action or task, in the hopes that one completes it better and/or faster, it is competition.
now if you were joking, oh well.
And now playing video games is called a sport.
Art is coming back to the Olympics in 2020 it's called skateboarding.
Martial Arts?
bet it hurts when your own citizen compares your president to hitler, eh america?
so are the athletes professionals then?
I have footage of the 1936 Olympic Games from my ancestor. He was an Australian Olympic athlete and he took his video crank camera to the games. He got the opening ceremony and footage of Hitler himself. I also have an Olympic Games 1936 official pencil! Contact me on twitter @lordpsi99 to get proof, pictures and video! I can get my ancestor's name and sport he participated in, too.
Decent/mildly interesting video, to me anyway. Much better like to dislike ratio AMIRITE!? ;D keep it up guys! 1.9m and counting (still...) SPREAD THE WORD!
Damn! I so would’ve won gold…
That level of racism ...
Man, what a fucked up time that was ...
The minimum eligibility benchmark for a medal in modern art should be that the judges must be capable of successfully diserning the "art" from the scribblings of young children or primates.
Hmm... I mean, if people can be great athletes without making money, I would think there would be enough amateur artists as well. Probably not in architecture, though.
Ur beard looks yellow-green.
So what kind of criteria would they have used to judge art? It's way too subjective to be measured in the same way an athlete's performance is. You can watch a race and clearly see who won, but to judge a piece of art requires understanding the countless interpretations of what is and isn't "good". I'm sure the judges would have to be EXTREMELY trustworthy and unbiased toward their own personal tastes.
you can judge "art"
in terms of challenge, error, accuracy and etc
@@artski09 But how do you define "challenge"? How do you define "accuracy" when it comes to abstract and surreal styles (I get that the general public wasn't too receptive to those at the time, but still, fair is fair)? Is an "error" still considered an error if the artist intended it, and if it elevates the piece's emotional impact? Not to mention different cultural standards: A piece/style of art may be revered in an artist's home country, but to the judges, it looks like their kids could have painted it. It's just a lot harder to put in a box than typical Olympic games.
@@lauramaueI'm not talking about " abstract and surreal styles", I'm talking about the traditional academy.
for challenge. there are levels of difficulty first being an object, then a landscape and so one to a historical or mythical scene.
for accuracy. is everything proportion correctly? is it properly scaled? and so on.
for error. did they fuck up? there a smudge there, the paint poorly mixed, there a tear and so on.
it's like the art skating just for an object. you lose points for being less ambitious or falling over
If only female mosquitoes drink blood for the purpose of laying eggs, what do mosquitoes actually eat
Nothing. They eat before they are reborn.
"officially"? so they have unofficial olympic events?
Yes, and they still have to this day. Wushu was an unofficial Olympic event in 2008.
Deadlifting isn't in the Olympics
Name one Olympic sport that features amateurs. Every Olympic athlete is a professional at what they do......
Egocentric racism stemmed from profession; "I hope you enjoyed that video"
Serial killer rapist kills themself justly; "I'm not going to ask if you enjoyed that video"
You might have these intros backwards, just saying.
Love your videos, just picking my own knits.
I thought the stuff about art was interesting but that it got talking about how that one Olympian was treated the same by Nazis as us Americans and that just bummed me out. (humans suck)
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Ok this is epic
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If steroids can't make you better at it then it's not a sport i.e. NASCAR
Olympics 2020 is going to have a virtue signalling event. There sure will be a lot of competition.
JustAnother IrishMan - Will that be before or after the posturing event? 🤪
Gotta love meta virtue signaling.....
ARTS AS SPORTS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A LIBERAL WOULD SAY
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