Who Started the Flat Earth Conspiracy Theory, How Many Believe This, and What Do They Believe?
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In this video we start by looking at who the first humans were to figure out the world was round, then jump into who started the modern Flat Earth conspiracy theory, how many Flat Earther's there are in this round world, and what exactly Flat Earthers believe.
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Just a small point. Flat Earth is not a theory, it is a concept. A theory is something that has been proved.
overall great vid, but a 1min 30sec ad in the start of a video is a bit much
@@mikestrohm3271 Anything that is discovered that works and is not a Theory in Technical School is patented at the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
Was the Wild West really all that wild?
I did...I started AWL of it...every single bit of it. Have the Science to Prove it....Why?
I saw a meme stating if the world was flat cats would have already knocked everything off the edge. That's irrefutable logic right there.
I completely agree. The fluffy little demons knock everything off anything. One of mine likes to dip her paw in glasses of ice water and tap the ice on the edge inevitability knocking over the water, I lost my very new MacBook Air thanks to her efforts. A whole pint of ice water over the keyboard, RIP. My cat was just pissed she got wet...
@@Gigipretty64 please tell me you got that mac fixed? if not, i’ll buy it and fix if myself. usually water damaged macs are fixable. don’t throw it away either way! :)
@@yourordinarytwathere8789 no, I managed to sell it to a Mac shop though. It was 4 years ago but I appreciate your concern 😍
@@Gigipretty64 haha good! i hate seeing fixable macs and pcs just thrown away when they could still be good computers if someone just fixed them😄
You SO beat me to this!
(My cats don't knock stuff off, but one of them
sticks his left paw, into the water bowl, and licks
it off, to drink.)
I am, in true life, a "dog" person. But my cats, are
"me" cats. (Really, I want another Basenji.)
steve
“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, its impossible to win an argument with a stupid person” -Bill Murray
I could not have said it better!!!
They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
I'll go ahead and save that quote. Thanks!
Be the one asking questions.
Like let him explain night time.
@@d3r4g45 As said in the vid,they claim the sun is like a spotlight only able to cover a portion of the earth at a time.
I have a neighbor that’s a flat earther
He watches videos on it, does his research… and has the balls to laugh at people for thinking the earth is round. He literally says that “people would know it’s flat, if they just had a little basic understanding of science”
These people are fascinatingly stupid.
If those people had a little bit more than just a basic understanding of science they would realise that the world is a spheroid.
If only he had the balls to believe in balls
@@turtlesandmoreturtles4140 I love your name! Turtles all the way
@@JootjeJ thank you! turtles are epic
You just want to beat the crap out of those people!!
The Netflix documentary Around the Curve has my favorite example of flat earthers
They came up with a surprisingly scientific experiment involving a gyroscope to measure the actual curvature of the earth. They laid out the explanation for what evidence would prove that the earth is round, and what would prove the earth is flat
It proved the earth is round
Their conclusion: magical sky beams interfered with their measurements
Better yet: they then went to the trouble of buying a zero Gauss chamber to block out these "heavenly energies"
It still proved the Earth is round
"Thanks Bob." 😆
🤦🏾♀️
All a person needs is to fly into Chicago at night to see the curvature.. trust me
"Why do people believe in flat Earth?"
Because they're stupid. That's all there is to it. They're stupid. And I mean that legitimately. They are too stupid to understand basic things
The only thing to fear is sphere itself.
Don't you fear falling off the basketball? And who is upside down the united states or Australia?
That was flat out funny.
I see what you did there 😌😂
Genius-level pun! Congrats!
@@mattterry1255 I can't take credit. I've heard it a dozen times.
"Never argue with a stupid person. First they'll drag you down to their level, then they'll beat you with experience." Mark Twain
So don't argue with ball Earth sheeple.
@@ultraniusmaximus1536 The only thing flat is your brain, you don't even understand an insult directed at you lol
@@AmishMicrowave Did you seriously just post that? Wow. Could you really not tell I was being facetious? Try a little less "lol"-ing, and try using that meatball you have upstairs a litte more.
@@ultraniusmaximus1536 Thank you for bringing the world some fun.
At least thank to US flatearthling, I'm pretty reassure about my own country and how things aren't that all f*cked up.
People at least have better education, better health care and better life.
Like the reality show where you mock people for the way they behave. But here the reality show is the news from US x)
@@lepangolin4080 You're welcome.
"Only believe in things you can see for yourself. Also, there's an ice wall around the disc that no-one has ever seen for themselves, but trust me bro."
I remember watching a documentary not that long ago that followed a group of flat earthers who set out to confirm that the Earth was flat, and basically, after every experiment that proved them wrong they simply changed the narrative to suit the results. In a nutshell, they were wrong and could not prove the Earth was flat.
Hence the beginning of the term "thanks Bob".
That’s basically religion in general. Only accept any evidence that supports your belief, throw out all evidence that disproves it.
@@Hkizzieno one asked I declare jihad on you
@@Hkizzie Flat earth has nothing to do with religion, that's a modern idea. Besides, you can definitively, scientifically prove the shape of the earth, and it was first done thousands of years ago. You can't show any evidence that directly disproves the existence of any deity. You can explain the mechanism behind certain phenomena attributed to deities, but you can't prove or disprove if a deity was responsible for it happening. In fact, scientists for thousands of years viewed science not as a way of replacing or disproving God, but of understanding how He operates, and when you understand how He does what He does, you can better understand why He does it
@@filmandfirearms Keep your god out of science.
One of my favourite Flat-Earther statements is that they have thousands of members around the globe.
And the immediate response to that statement. "Say that again but slower."
ROTFLMAO
...and they use mobile phone technology to talk to each other...
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
hahahaha!
Come on. Everyone knows ships disapear because of being outside of the render distance.
@@taurohkea2169
thats because the sails have a larger render distance
Tillke Rohkea
No dude, anything attached to the boat will have the same render distance. Even lights that you attach to it
@@taurohkea2169 Google render distance in game. maybe you will get it lol.
@@taurohkea2169 lol i get you think he ment what was visible but render distance or draw distance is "In computer graphics, draw distance is the maximum distance of objects in a three-dimensional scene that are drawn by the rendering engine. Polygons that lie beyond the draw distance will not be drawn to the screen." google says. so its referring to a aspect of games.
he might be saying we live in a simulation.
The refutation of all the evidence which contradicts their theory reminds me of what it was like to try to convince my mother that the voices only she could hear were a result of psychosis…
How the duck do you know? The spiritual world is real, and that’s why almost no one in western society can make sense out of ANYTHING. They’re missing a fundamental aspect of human existence and the universal overall.
Yeah, but you were (hopefully) actually able to convince her. You can’t convince a flat earther of shit.
"All human knowledge is at everyone's finger tips" leaves out that all human lies, deceptions, mistakes, rumors and misconceptions are also at everyone's finger tips, and thanks to algorithms all are equal in the eyes of google.
The fact we are discussing this in the 21st century is worrying.
Explains the Trump presidency. Sad.
Pepe4358 _ Thats what they said to Galileo in his century..
steve naylor you saying GODS word is false ? You are really blind. Has nothing to do with science. Yes science has been manipulated for political agendas. That is a Fact !
@@oldschool3484 I would happily say LOUDLY that the just because some Trump voting Corona denying creationist Flat Earther says something IS Gods word DOES NOT make it so, and anything YOU (or similar edumacationally challenged lizard brain freaks ) says IS the word of God 100% most definitely IS NOT! and the world is round sunshine!
Ariako Ishikawa You are one ignorant SOB. First off, that is BS ! Your statement is false ! More people were killed , especially in the 20 th. Entury by Communists and Socialist dictators. Usually took Christians to stop it. Not going to get into a biblical discussion with someone who definitely seems to have a chip on their shoulders about Jesus and the Bible. One thing is for sure, NASA LIED and the Earth is not what we have been told. PERIOD ! End of Story !
Remember when we thought it was the lack of access to information that was holding people back?
It's not. It's not that at all.
ruclips.net/video/eebzVpqm7-s/видео.html
are lies considered "information" now?
@@shaunsteele8244 Depends on who you ask.
It gets worse when you realize that stupid people reproduce the most.
@@AngryReptileKeeper That’s the result of people consuming relentless mythology and misinformation related to fertility, conception, and pregnancy. It used to be just dumb stuff teenagers heard from an older sibling and passed around in a relatively small group, but it is significantly more proliferative these days. No, laying still after sex does not prevent pregnancy. No, jumping up and down after sex does not prevent pregnancy. No, you cannot get pregnant from a toilet seat or hot tub. Yes, you can get pregnant if sperm contacts your vulva even if it wasn’t initially released inside the vagina. No, birth control does not cause abortions (guys really like to believe that the magic happens the second they release, but there’s at least a week before a blastocyst implants in the uterine wall, at which point pregnancy occurs). Trying to explain to someone the whole timeline of the process is an effort in futility. But really, if you’ve decided to hate a thing, shouldn’t you at least know how it works?
Okay I got off on a tangent, but my initial point was relevant as to the specific area of ignorance which causes more widespread reproduction.
I read a fascinating comment by a psychologist who has a policy of refusing to treat any patient that claims the earth is flat: he has found that they usually have underlying mental health issues and symptoms that need psychiatric care and perhaps medication. He therefore refers those prospective patients to a higher level medical professional. While this is not a causation situation, there is correlation between the firmly held belief in a flat earth belief and symptoms of larger problems.
Huh. Imagine that.
That's interesting. Probably a good point.
Could the same be said of MAGA followers?
Reminds me of the saying, "It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone they have been fooled." - Somebody smarter than me, probably.
Mark Twain I believe.
@@Ricimer671 Yea, someone smarter than me. LOL
The problem with that statement in this context is that it says nothing about who is the one being fooled. The flerf is convinced that the believer in the round earth is the one who has been fooled and is just being obstinate when shown all their wonderful reasoning.
As well as the other way around.
Bill Murray said that.
@@ankhpom9296 Yeah, somebody smarter than me.
6:04 You could run a survey in which the only question is "Are you currently taking a survey?" and 5% of people will still answer "Not sure"
Reminds me of the time where those telephone polls were a thing. You had to grab the phone, dial the number and pay a considerable amount of money and yet still there were people who did just that just to vote for "I don't care".
@@tobiaswilhelmi4819 when apathy comes at a cost
"Taking a survey" is something that only happens in our mind. In reality, we are just pressing lead onto a piece of paper, so perhaps it would not be unwarranted
I'll tell you who is most pissed by the Flat Earth theory - the Hollow Earthers. No one even talks about their crackpot theory any more.
Sir Sic did, this one guy said the door to the underworld was on an island but no one can get to it. His claim is if the earth is full of hot magma, then why is it cold in caves.
a Flat Earth Vs. Hollow Earth MMA smack down cage fight would be interesting...i'd buy tickets for that one
@@thejudgmentalcat a friend of mine works in a mine in northern Canada and he said he sweats every day, all day down there.
@Greg Moonen I know this. The hollow-earther does not.
@MRGRUMPY53 Im fairly certain it's been around longer. If I remember correctly, Jules Verne wrote Journey to the Center of the Earth after hearing about it, could easily be wrong on that part though
Like all cult beliefs, some people need to believe they have secret knowledge that only they and their in-group possesses, to make them feel whole.
If the curvature of the earth as viewed from an airliner is due to the shape of the windows, why doesn't the terminal building look curved when you're on the runway.
The funny thing is if we took a champion of champion among the flat earthers to space and they confirmed the earth is round they would then be written off as bought by NASA.
nah they would say the windows are special effects.
the flat earthers provide the rest of us plenty of amusement..
mind you all that wasted effort trying to prove the earth is flat..... mind you i don't think they would be so enthusiastic about something else if they beleive the earth was round....
They are liars who ignore evidence because of their need to feel special!
@@vang-toulee8351 CGI!!🥳🤣😂🤣🤸🤡
Is this true? 😂
A flat-earther's greatest fear is...
Sphere itself.
Ken Fulton {Baby Elder} I love this
Nice
😂🤣😂
😂😂😂 I wish I was good at puns
Nice one 👍👍👍😊😊
Here are five undeniable scientific facts that make flat earth theory an impossible model.
1. Size of the sun observed in the sky: When observed the sun takes up the same “degrees of space” in the observable sky. This is only possible for a very large object being very far away. In all flat earth theories the sun is a small object moving relatively close to earth shining a spotlight of “day time” upon the surface of the earth. The relatively observed ”degrees of space” taken up by the sun should start as very small at sun rise, be observed to be 3x-5x times larger in the sky at Noon (based on theorized size of the sun and distance from the earth’s surface proposed in the various versions of flat earth models). The sun would then get smaller and smaller in the sky as it approaches sunset.
2. The pattern of the tides. The double low and high tide patterns as seen on earth are only possible if the moon is rotating around a spherical earth. No math models in any flat earth theory can explain the observed tide cycle.
3. Sky Rotation changing. From time lapse studies, we know from the observable sky at night what appears to be a sky rotating counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere. This is only possible on a rotating globe. In fact in flat earth models, the sun and northern star (Polaris) should ALWAYS be visible at night.
4. Shadow angles at Noon. Put two tall sticks in the ground 100 yards apart. Watch what happens at Noon. In a flat earth model there should be a time when the shadows cast by the sticks are pointing in opposite directions as the small relatively close sun passes over head. This doesn’t occur the shadows are cast at always the same angle of projection. This is only possible with a globe rotating to reveal a very large very far away sun.
5. Sundials move “clockwise” north of the equator. Sundials move “counter clockwise” south of the equator. This cannot happen on a flat earth with a small sun flying through the sky.
This assumes you're qrguing with a rational person playing by the same rules as us (logic, science, reality...)
Here, I'll pretend to be one of them for a moment and show how easy it is to refute all of your well-thought-out, perfectly-explained, accurate arguments: "nuh-uh"
Years ago, I spent a year at South Pole Station. Up there on the polar plateau, I would have noticed an ice wall if it had been there, don't you think?
Yeah no they think the ice shelf itself is the ice wall. Apparently they have no idea that Antarctica has beaches
They would say you had your memory erased by NASA.
The point is Antartica is the land mass surrounding the oceans, its height varies but land is the edge of water.
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn
You mean George Lucas...
@@navelpicker Clever you are.
It certainly didn't make Qui-Gon intelligent.
Nah, cogent speech does make one intelligent. But intelligence does not equal sapience.
“Meesa tinkin the Earthum be flatten.”
-Some idiot
How to debate a Flat Earther - walk away in a straight line until you disappear below the horizon. QED.
bUt PerSpeTivE!
Daaaaaaaaamn good one
77gravity ~ Yeah,
And then the Flat Earther will take out their P900 Camera & bring you Straight back into focus. . . Lol . .
Nope. A telescope will bring that person who "walked over the curve" right back into focus. Or binoculars. Or the P900/P1000. Globetards believe light can bend around corners and curves!! LOL
Wrong. This is know as Perspective.
The idea that all world governments would come together for once on any one idea (let alone to keep it secret from the entire world) is quite preposterous.
Almost no one really believes the Earth is flat. They just say that to be contrarian and disruptive. Especially online where there's no cost for making such statements.
I agree totally.
"You know, maybe there's a good reason donkeys shouldn't talk."
~Shrek
So wise
Wise words flat earth denier
Conspiracy theories are like onions.
@@nokuhobune LMFAO. Dude, you people are even dumber than Trumpers. Somehow. I realize that most of you ARE Trumpers, btw, which is just hilarious.
@@Tcrror cope harder round earther
"Only trust what you can see with your own eyes"
Hasn't seen the edge of the Earth.
Haven't seen actuall space
I haven't seen a kenguru. Therefore, they don't exist. Logic 🥴
Trust what you see with your own eyes in your everyday life, not locations that the military will not let you reach even if you wanted to reach it.
Actually, much of what they assert are things that they can't possibly have seen with their own eyes.
@@otisdylan9532 Otis, you've seen the flat earth with your own eyes, but because of indoctrination over your lifetime, it's easy to miss. CGI images of space that are obviously fake, high-altitude weather balloon video where the horizon rises to you eye level, zero proof of gravity turning us around. Believe me, you've already experienced it.
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As a side note, ants see their world like its flat. So maybe some people only have the aptitude of an ant
I once asked a flat earther about 'If you keep going west, why do you end up in the east?" His answer boiled down to, shit you not, Pac-Man Physics. If you leave the left side of the screen you appear on the right side of the screen. I still do not understand how this could possibly work.
Reading that comment genuinely made me laugh out loud!
Or just ask them to explain sunset because even minecraft debunks their "science and evidence"
Lmao 😂 FOH 💀
Pac-Man physics. Lol!
@mohammed ilyas why don't you do it.
"Dropping out of school at the tender age of nine..."
And now it all makes sense.
Fridays For Future!
Most flat earthers act like 9 year olds, so it makes sense
*Dropping out of school* or *dropped on the head at school?*
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 in thinking more he mother drank while pregnant, dr dropped him on his head at birth and he dropped out of school because he was too stupid to learn.
My dad is a flat earther he drop from high school
I just don't get what anyone would get outta lying about the shape of the earth lol
C'mon, haven't you seen all of those billionaires who made their fortunes selling globes? /s
Whistler's content (multiple RUclips channels) is top quality. Insightful, humorous, and always engaging, Whistler carries the short content with his own brand of audacious cheek. Truly entertaining stuff 😂
My favorite part of flat earth people is that Bob Knodel made a whole-ass documentary and bought a $20,000 gyroscopic laser to prove the Earth is flat... only to discover it WASN'T flat, and decided that since he didn't like that, the evidence didn't matter.
Hahaha I saw that!
Even worse is that they're now trying to find ways to force the gyroscope to show a flat earth and they don't realize how biasedly faulty that logic is. It's like me trying to prove gravity doesn't exist and after dropping rocks over and over i then let go of a helium balloon and act like i proved my point.
And they could have instead gone and looked at a Foucault pendulum, or built one themselves. Much easier and cheaper.
@@barryomahony4983 Don't understimate flat earthers confirmation bias and special pleading. They claim that Foucault pendulums work because the "dome" earth sits under is spinning...which would result in similar results or they claim the earth is rotating as a disk at 24hr/day intervals but the sun is traveling much faster around the disk.
Hbomberguy did a Single Awesome Video about Flat-Earth and so did Wisecrack;
but some are even specialized on it: Like Sci Man Dan, who did a Thousand Videos of High Quality.
and they call it a "global" conspirancy...
OOoooo ...........lol
It's the only thing they got right.
The only 2 things the flat earth society have right is the moon orbits the earth and they call it a "global" conspiracy
Flat earth society is run by globe heads to make it seem ridiculous. This guy is out of touch.
@Some Guy ?? Proper English please.
I like the ad at the beginning and not in the middle interrupting the story. It's appreciated.
Almost a decade ago, I discovered online that there were people who believed the Earth was flat. I began arguing with them. I tried to understand what made them believe what they believe and thought of ways to debunk their beliefs in indisputable ways. Here are some examples:
-Flat earthers said that Antarctica surrounded the Earth, was comprised of 75-150 foot tall ice walls that could not be traversed, and if you somehow did manage to traverse the wall machine-gun-carrying NASA guards would turn you away. I really thought to even think this was truly hilarious. Do these people even realize that you can just book a trip to Antarctica and go there yourself to see that none of this is true? I mean... let's go! Let's go in person and see that none of this is true in reality. See for yourself that there are no continuous tall ice walls and no NASA guards. I'm guessing that flat earthers don't have much money because none took me up on the offer
-They were so convinced that the whole global concept was a means of controlling the populous. They somehow merged the globalist "New World Order", which is really about people capitalizing on a unified world government, whereby the word global doesn't refer to the shape of the planet, but the encapsulation of all governments of the world. They don't seem to understand this distinction. Further, they then use MK-Ultra and merge that into their unhinged beliefs for some reason. Then, they claim this is all because of the Rothschilds and Rockerfellers, etc. Then, I asked them a couple of questions:
1) How is it that these people or governments are going to somehow control me more or less just because of the shape of the planet? I mean, if the Earth is round or flat, from a government perspective... my life doesn't change in either case. From a controlling me perspective, nothing changes. My life from a governing perspective isn't affected by the shape of the planet. They of course had no answer for this and merely resorted to ad hominem attacks about how clueless I was and how they felt sorry for me.... even though they are the ones who couldn't answer the simplest of questions
2) Why? Why would anybody require the Earth being round in my mind, or the populous in general? What is the end game? What's it all about? The answer? Seriously... the answer was: so the government could get your money. THAT'S IT! That is all they had! So, I informed them that the government ALREADY has our money they collect in the form of taxes and that they already give many billions a year to NASA, out of a $4 trillion sum in federal revenue a year, and they don't need my understanding or permission to give NASA money because they already have my money and can spend it however Congress decides to do so in their budget. Me believing the world is some shape has literally no effect on anything with regard to them taking my money and giving it to NASA. Again, they had no response to this. So, they cannot even come up with a plausible reason that they can effectively explain in any legitimate fashion that even begins to provide a motive for their make-believe claims.
Add-on: No lie, this one Australian guy was really smug about his flat earth positions and attempted to execute a live experiment on the spot on video that "proved" for sure just how the Earth simply cannot be a globe. The experiment? He had a deflated soccer ball and he used his garden hose to spray water on it to show that the water fell off and didn't stick to the ball! HAHAHAHAHA! Seriously! That was it!!! He is completely scientifically brainless! He didn't even consider for a second that the gravity of the Earth, due to its much larger mass than the ball, would overpower any sort of gravitational effects a tiny little ball could even hope to produce. This guy is all flat earthers. Just stupid and wrong.
Now we are seeing the "extraterrestrials" and UFO narrative unfold. This would not be possible if people believed in the firmament of God. Our entire world is God's creation.
The Bible says this, "The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
Don't believe it if you want but this world is passing away.
"Anyone who claims something is foolproof drastically underestimates the ingenuity of complete fools."
I was a fool so I still get around now and then through sheer dumb luck.
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Or goes to church, prays in a temple or rams pedestrians with a lorry for voices in his head . Flat Earth is as real as the 4200 other religious virus in humans brains . Let's make it 4201 just to annoy Orko ;)
Sounds like a old usmc instructor saying, put a new recruit in a padded room with two steel ball bearings and one hour later he'll have broken one and lost the other!
@@stephenle-surf9893 90% of humanity believes ON FAITH in angels ... Let that sink in before talking "smart" ... Unless YOU are an anti - theist ... Take a number to the padded dorm .
Someone wrote: "It's very difficult to argue with an intelligent person but it's impossible to argue with an ignorant one". True words indeed.
That was Bill Murray
"Never argue with stupid people. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
The only thing that matters is people don't TRY an argue with me
Period
@@GORILLA_PIMP but what if you are wrong and someone tried to correct you but in a healthy debating kind of way?
@@sandraal2585
Because it's not about "being right or wrong" lmfao
It's about not challenging me
They take Adam Savage's quote too far; "I reject your reality, and substitute my own."
Remember, anyone who still has brains: Nathan Oakley is the one who claims that spheres don't have tangents, and claimed to be able to use a sextant and failed miserably. For those of you who think mathematics is just bullshit, carry on as usual.
Flat Earthers: We can only accept what we can see with our own eyes.
Also Flat Earthers: The Earth is surrounded by an ice wall that no one's ever seen.
Astronauts: I saw it with my own eyes
Flat Earthers: I can't accept this!
Random Ashe how naive are your people? Please provide one scientific proof that the earth is spinning!!
@Yehudah Wayne
Ummm...what? Are you a troll?
Brandon MacLeod no I am not. Anyone that honestly research this topic instead of listening to guys like these on RUclips can’t come away thinking the earth is a spinning sphere!
I’ve asked people for 3 scientific proof of earth’s movement and no one can provide it. It’s a historical fact that every attempt made by Globe Earth proponents to prove movement has failed!!
That’s why they started creating theories. When you can’t prove something In Reality, you create a theory! You don’t need a theory to tell you the sun is in the sky, you see it everyday. You only need theories for things you can’t see or experience in reality!
The globe earth is a fantasy supported by theories upon theories that has no basis in reality!!
@Yehudah Wayne
"You only need theories for things you can’t see or experience in reality!"
Like the theory that the earth is surrounded by an ice wall?
A reality show where flat earthers travel to find the edge of the world..
So that would kinda be like the shows about finding bigfoot and such?
thare is one its called C SPAN
Or a reality show where flat earthers have to plan a direct flight between Perth and Johannesburg, or other southern hemisphere direct long distance flight. Explain their reasoning, and then execute it.
@EmperorJuliusCaesar I think Ive seen this. He built an insanely powerful lazer and set up polls as a sort of check point and something along the lines of "If the world is a sphere then the exact degree of curvature should be _______." Then he did the experiment and the outcome was damn near literally exactly what he stated if the world were spherical. He then basically said, in his own round (or flat hehe) about way that the results were inconclusive due to them not proving his point.
@@davidmaschino3359 if it doesn't fit their beliefs they disregard it
For the longest time, I always thought that the flat earth society was just a big meme group. Then I found out that my wife's dad's friend is a true believer. Brainrot is real.
If you look for answers on the FES then it will seem ridiculous...
a Qbot, I imagine, or Qadjacent, at least...
As for sailors, if you are reasonably high up above the waterline you can actually see the curvature with your eyes.
For awhile I questioned the moon landing, then I remembered that 25 years earlier mankind split the atom. And 4000 years ago we built the pyramids. All the while I am sending messages at the speed of light across the globe.
Well speed of electricity and signal waves. But yeah sure "light"
@@ShadowLynx777 , would speed of radiation suffice?
The speed of information as it's called. Far faster than the speed of light. Watch a video on quantum entanglement
@@ParkerUAS
That'd actually be slower XD
@@textman09
That's cosmic information though, that is special.
We're sending information on energy using cables and transmitters. Very very different stuff.
I ascribe to the theory that if the Earth WAS flat, cats would've knocked everything off the edge by now.
Yep, still the best proof.
Even though i think the earth is round you are wrong the stupid people's theories say there's a wall around the wall(edit)I mean earth
No one knows what is the truth about our planet.
We can believe in something...even if sometimes it called science.
Damn. You one original sum bitch.
Can we retire this comment already?
A question i always ask conspiracy theorists is simple. What would the powers that be have to gain by lying to us?
See congressional hearing on ufos
If you haven't seen the answer yet you never will! If you had any knowledge of political history you would realise the term conspiracy theorist was coined by the CIA to counter the truths that were becoming obvious to intelligent people.
@@LOUDPACG**
*They wiLL BEAT you with EXPERience!!!!* Mark Twain
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I've met a handful of flat earthers in my life. They always have at least a 100 other weird conspiracy theories to share and they will go on about them all day long. I tried to date a girl like that once but needless to say she was not a stable person and it did not last long.
Conspiracy theory: everyone who believes the Earth is flat is just waiting for a free opportunity to be sent to space to be "proven wrong".
Yep now im a flat earth believer. Gotta send me to space for free so i can see. mhmm mhmm
I guess I'm a flat earther now
Hey, u can believe this sh!TD!ck if ya want 2, so let's use all these complex formulas that a sumb!Tch from the bronze age came up wit. Then ask me how I could believe in the bible bc it was written soooooo long ago. Everything we think we know about the sun moon stars space comes from 1 organization, NASACAR, if I catch sum1 in lie(S) as in piles of em. I must reconsider all they said. NASA means 2 beguile in Hebrew, & means 2 greatly decieve in Greek. They have now added a hyphen 2 change the meaning & the word the word 4 lifted up is pronounced nawsha that ain't it. Just Google clouds behind the sun & clique on video & images
I am not generous enough to want to waste money on such people by sending them into space (even if permanently). They are not the hungry or sick waiting for relief. They are the wilfully ignorant, agents of their own misfortune.
That's been my main conspiracy theory
waiting for someone at nasa to get fed up and give em a free rocket ride to orbit and back
even then, they'd probably just say it was a really convincing digital simulation
Welp, the fact that the movement was started by someone who stopped going to school at age 9 should tell people everything they need to know
That he wasn't brainwashed by organized education. ;-D
@@anival9576 It means he's not smart. You need education, bud. Act grown.
@@kingdavey90 The earth is round. Deal with it.
@@amirtham5783 indeed it is
@@anival9576 you can rent a hot air balloon and see it for yourself
Arguing with a flerfer is like playing chess with a pigeon, the pigeon's just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it won the game. You can't argue with people who can't think critically.
I used to think it was round, then thought it was flat, then came back around.
What caused you to think the earth is flat?
@@ankhpom9296 required for the joke to work ;)
So the 1st person who said the Earth is flat, dropped out of school at 9? That explains a lot about flat Earthers
interesting that he was a very good debater... and could talk anyone around or under...
School is a joke... anyone with an above average of 90 IQ understands that school is pure evil indoctrination of the stupidity of our modern Era of lack of educational evidentiary science 🤔 that's why a SMART 9 yr old would drop out
@@TheWayOfChrist333
Anyone who has an education would immediately understand the logistical impossibility of FE to ever be maintained.
You will be a coward and not even try to weasle you way through an explanation.
@@gmr4life884 And anyone who understands the 2020 election, the working of RNA vaccines, etc, would know those theories are impossible. But in the modern day, the disinformation merchants are extremely skilled at making educated people stupid.
Wait ... Aristotle had a 9th grade education? I sort of blame him because while other Greek thinkers had mathematical proof for a spherical earth, Aristotle, teacher and mentor of Alexander the Great, did not believe this and taught Alex that the world was flat. This belief was spread as he conquered a lot of the world. Oh, wait, at 9 years of age???
Their model is wrong. The Earth disc sits atop four elephants, who themselves stand on the back of a sea turtle.
Also time is a cube.
What are you, idiot? Earth is velociraptor-shape that stand on a skateboard. Time is orange-color
Idk about time being a cube, but Earth is actually a cube.
A cube...just like my Minecraft world
No no no its TURTLES ALL THEWAY DOWN REALLY BIG OLD TURTLES BUT TURTLES LOL
Y'all missing the big picture here. The real question is: what is the sex of the big turtle?
Haha love you for this
When I first heard about this high school, I thought those people were just trolling and rapper B.o.B was just going on with the trolling.
But now, I'm scared of people. This belief has history, B.o.B wasn't trolling. That's- . . . this is enough RUclips I had today. Let me listen to some music.
Flat earthers can't even explain eclipses. 😂
Arguing with a "flat earther" is like playing chess with a pigeon. It sh^ts on the board, and then promptly walks around like it just won the game.
Jajajajajaja, I laughed so hard, I may have to “steal” this comparison to share it among my friends 😂
That’s glorious
No pigeon ever done that
@@christydunn4800 its an analogy
@@Killerbee4712 yea it doesn't make sense
If the earth was really flat, flat earthers would swear it was round.
I think youy mean ''spherical'' don't you?
@Pat Mahon If you'd had a brain you would have realised that the ''them'' you speak of are and was, specifically, in this instant ONE OF YOU sphericalists, or, if you prefer a ''roundist'? Mmmmkay?
Are you a practicing member of the Church of Flatter Day Saints where your motto is "We have nothing to fear, but sphere itself".
@@GopherBaroque61 Yes, i am, who isn't?
@Pat Mahon Do trolls exist then? You'll be telling me that the easter Bunny and the tooth fairy are real next...
Apparently the newsletter of the flat earth society was pretty big but completely fell to nearly nobody because the person running the newsletter had their house burn down and lost all the addresses and names of members. (Just as I finished typing it he brings it up of course)
Crazy thing is, there doesn't "still" seem to be people who believe this, but people who believe this "again"
Flat Earthers - "Only accept that which we can see with our own eyes and prove with our own efforts"
Also Flat Earthers - "The Earth is surrounded by an ice wall which we can't prove because NASA is guarding it"
logic
Alvin Tay
Freaking NASA!
And how can they prove specifically NASA is guarding it? It hurts to think about the bullshit. NASA isn't a global police force. FFS.
Admittedly NASA no longer does much, but they are going to guard a wall...of ice. Where did this wall of ice come from?
@@t.b.5115 they don't need to prove it, they just need to sound convincing enough to confuse the layman
@@Spartan0430 True. Maybe we could convince people large dogs are small horses. See where that takes us.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin
Oh...
Remco DH
Seems George Carlin wasn’t aware of the difference between average and MEDIAN... 🙄
Celisar1 apparently you don't understand the difference between mean, median and mode either because you just used "average" to insult someone. How do you know he wasn't referring to median? Last I checked, all three of those are averages.
That's not how averages work. Einstein was pushing the average up. People who quote comedians are pulling it down.
I have been in the bottom 4% of my peer group 2 years running according to the UK statistics for degree classification. I still believe the earth is a globe 🌍. Not so sure I believe in statistics though 😂
Deep inside they know the earth is round. But there’s money running a community like this.
I have been a Seaman (Merchant) my entire life and I have yet to fall off the edge and I have yet to see the Flat-Earthers give a logical argument for vessels visually sailing over the horizon.
If the earth is flat, then how has my life progressively gone down hill?
It's that dark matter, man. You gotta let go of that aetheric wind.
I'm not sure how that would speak to the shape of the planet, flat or ball. Maybe if it were a pyramid.....wait a minute.......the ball earth theory is a NASA psyop.....the flat earth theory is a CIA psyop......but the pyramid.....it's right there on the money isn't it????? Oh shit......the earth is.......a triangle! No wonder Alt J says triangles are his favorite shape.....mystery solved everyone we can all stop arguing now.
Its tilted, towards Australia I think.
Well, if going downhill is progress for you, perhaps something you really wanted to do in your life was
roll a ball down a hill.
@@ParkerUAS Fuck that, we don't want the world's garbage, we have to vote for some of our own garbage every 3 years, that's more than enough for us!
So, every world sailor and every transcontinental airline pilot all keep the Flat Earth a secret.
Nobody cracks and spills the beans? That is an amazingly solid conspiracy!
Do not forget every person who climbed a tall mountain.
If the Earth was flat with north geological pole being in the center, visible terrain would not line up with maps (curving northward more than it should according to spherical maps), and they would see the Sun at night (it would have to be higher than all mountains, thus be visible from them).
I am in the conspiracy. I sailed all 7 seas. And there is a big ice wall. Don't tell anybody I told you.
Exactly what I thought. NOWHERE people are so consistent in their lies. (I hope, what I typed made sense. I am german- and you can't always translate figures of speech)
Every sailor, pilot, most every person in the sciences, engineers.... oh, and me clearly (30 years as an airforce navigator).
@@basklooster3574 Go back and make a video. Let's see who can crack the spherical Earth conspiracy first!
I have entertained many flat Earth theorists. I’ve considered the possibility of them being correct and was absolutely fascinated with how little knowledge was actually applied. It’s very creative and highly imaginative. I just continued to prove to myself that the Earth is indeed spherical. The math works forward and backwards. It’s easy to consider when we know the actual science can only conclude to a spherical planet. It amazes me they don’t seem to want to grasp Eratosthenes evidence. For them to be correct would require a conspiracy of unimaginable proportions, as well as a mechanical sun along with a mobile sky. Sextons usage and celestial navigation are obviously lost with these people. What about the fact our shadow is round when broadcast onto the moon, if our planet is sideways wouldn’t we fall off? Why is there no video evidence of the edge of the world? Why can’t we see Hawaii from California with a high powered telescope? So many things don’t line up for their theory to be correct. Occam’s razor says the Earth is spherical after all is said and done.
They got our attention, didn’t they?
Flat Earthers: "there's a GLOBAL conspiracy"
@Traditional Catholic I tend to be skeptical of the idea of there being one single giant conspiracy.... (I tend to think that there are likely a multitude of secretive groups each working towards their own ends that sometimes work together but also against each other...)
Minnion yes, they are called governments. Really not much of a secret, humans are just horrible. 😂🤣😂
@@christopherblake2588 Some of them are cults, clubs, syndicates, churches, and of course corporations.... Of course the whole one world government conspiracy could be considered two or more... (Religious organizations trying to get everyone to be the same religion, and see a one world government as a tool to achieve this... Then you get corporations that see a one world government as their ticket to saving money on lobbing multiple governments to pass laws to benefit their greed by suppressing competition and making it easier to achieve their monopolies and the death of the free market....)
Minnion very true can’t ignore those as well. Every group has a special interest, you can even throw lobbyist into that equation. Wouldn’t call it much of a conspiracy thou if they are doing this out in the open. Human nature almost guarantees there will never be a “one government”.
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Obviously flat
My friend was a Flat Earther. We watched a few videos. One was about a plane that left China heading to LA. An emergency (Pregnant woman went into labor) forced them to land in Alaska. On the map it looked like they made a hard left and flew twice the distance as LA would be. We went to a store. Found a globe, used my lanyard to plot the closest distance from the two points on the map. It almost went over the southern tip of Alaska. I watched the Flat Earth drain out of his brain in real time.
Sometimes I wish I had a flat Earther friend so I can bully him out of his ignorant belief 😆
@@squidjpeg9925 I bullied no one. I educated him.
Awesome
Yeah, that's why aviators and navigators use a special map called a Mercator map which makes the landmasses and such look bigger the closer to the poles one gets because the Earth isn't flat! They use it to be able to accurately navigate a course.
So you're saying the globe is just a spherical projection of the flat Earth?
My mom... a combination of Young Earth Creationist and flat Earther... 'cause "The Flood"... I stopped trying to argue the issue with her... 'cause reasons.
We can send all the flat earthers up in the space shuttle and they'd STILL think the Earth is flat. They're that pathetic in their conspiracy theory.
This video really didn’t touch on “why” people believe this. I’d like to forward my theory. Having engaged with many flat-earthers I have found some commonalities in all of those with whom I have spoken. All of them share a misunderstanding of core concepts of science. I don’t believe that is the key as many people share that and have the capacity to realize that principles that have been proven are true whether you personally master them or not. The other aspect that they all seem to share is that they are people with a self-image that is honestly above them while living a life that they see as beneath them. My theory is that as long as one clings to an idea that they are a member of a select few that “can see the truth” and are “too smart and open-minded to be brainwashed” it gives them an escape from the idea that perhaps they are not living up to their full potential. That perhaps their life is much smaller than it could be.
That's pretty common to almost all conspiracy theorists.
Ugh. It's like you're describing my mother. And I get the brunt of it since me becoming wealthy and sharing it with her seems to be her only hope of improving her life.
I have a theory which some will find controversial: They're morons.
It's basically a version of the Dunning Kruger effect.
You just described most humans....
"... no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century BC onward believed that the earth was flat." Flat earthers just got roasted by a historian
Mic drop 🤗
But of course the Flatheads just think this proves their superior historical knowledge too.
You could challenge them to a battle of wits, but they are of course unarmed.
@woof beast when your "opponent" thinks the Earth is flat, laughing and making jokes about their intelligence is the only available option. Thinking the Earth is flat is akin to thinking people can breath water like a fish, it's just so blatantly obvious that attempting to debate the topic is hysterical bringing out the juvenile inside.
You are a fucking tool. Do you not know that almost everyone in the world believed in the flat earth in those times? Simon has a lot of trouble telling the whole truth when he wants to speak about politically incorrect things.
Archiebald The Fat nope, dream on mate. As soon as you start throwing insults your argument is lost. Try again.
I believe that "No child left behind" has a hand in this situation. I believe these, "everyone gets a trophy" grads also deny the moon landings.
I refuse to believe they aren't all trolling
"Prove the Earth is round."
*Proves it*
"No not like that."
Prove angels exist ! 90% of humans on planet Earth will kill, fight, ask for blasphemy laws just to defend 4200 religious myths . The Earth is as flat untill all faith based virus are purged from human hosts .
nini v
Okay boomer.
@@niniv2706 i have no idea what you're trying to convey
@@dudeatos - ... ... ... Simple . I will use my best english as it is my third language .
Anyone spending time dissing and exposing Flat Earthing for being ... FALSE !
Should spend as much time exposing islam, christianity, judaism etc... for the 4200 other BULLSHIT ideologies based on faith out there .
If one doesn't do this ... He is a ... FRAUD !
Hey ... Is this simple enough ? Please tell me you didn't undertsand this .
@@angsilaw - Well, merci le jeune :)
Navigators more hundreds of years ago: Considering the way a ship disappears off sight and the height of constellations depending on the location the earth is probably round
Random middle aged conspiracy theorist 2020: The earth is flat because I can't see the curve where I live
Dipshit Probably lives in the woods.
Both of those phenomenons have been explained with optical experiments.
Sailors from centuries ago who never went to school and knew nothing about physics and optics, so their misinterpretations of what they were seeing is excusable.
This is as logical as claiming the earth is a cube because I am sitting inside a dark box and can't see out. So it must be!. Try harder! Strain those little flat peepers of yours.
Roughly 2000 years ago, Greek (more broadly Hellenistic) astronomers made a careful study of the earth, moon (eclipses and half moon phases), and sun. Likely the simplest of these measurements was Eratosthenes' measurement of the earth's circumference, which was repeated by Posidonius using the star Canopus (and basically got the right answer).
More complicated geometric arguments obtained the distance from the earth to the moon (60-70 earth's radii away by Hellenistic measurements, which is not bad ) and reasonably close estimates for the moon's radius (roughly 1/3 that of the earth). Probably the only thing they got very wrong was the distance between the sun and the earth, where the measurements needed were pushing the limits of the naked eye.
Their equipment was very primitive, but their way of approaching the problem and trying to verify results with several types of measurements was strikingly modern. A modern approach to a problem or question can often overcome primitive technology.
In contrast, flat earthers prove that a primitive approach to a problem can render modern technology useless.
Measure the curve. Theirs like a $100000 reward if you can prove the curve
Flat earthers: "Explain" the SCP on your pizza world! 😅
I just recently was able to finally conceptualize that the Earth was A sphere. I'm not a flatter Earth Person. I just don't understand the science of it all. Even when looking at a globe I couldn't quite ever get it conceptually. Recently, I was flying on an airplane, And they had a new 3-D virtual model that shows where your plane is. Sort of like when you use Google maps and look at the street from different angles. That's when it finally clicked. We always see 2 dimensional representations of Planet and it's really hard to Grasp, if he don't understand the science.
I finally could understand my position on the planet
'You can only believe what you can see with your eyes'
As a blind person I guess nothing is real
Omg that is awesome
I guess you must be well read.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Your humorous comment dredged it out of me.
And if nothing is real, being blind, then I guess you've been to Strawberry Fields. Not only is nothing real, there's also nothing to get hung about.
On his return from space Yuri Gagarin was asked 'did the earth look round', to which he replied 'yes, but I don't think it saw me'.
And that means.....?
@@alvaronavarro4895 "And that means.....?"
It's laugh out loud funny! A slightly more correct reading is "did the earth look around" did YOU look around to see what there is to see?
@@thomasmaughan4798 OOh I got It now!
Did he say it in English?
@@wouldntyouliketoknow1477 no I think he said that in Russian
I’m a brand-new watcher, and you can completely ignore this… but opening your video, excited to learn, I click on it, and there’s barely an intro and 1 min 43 of ads.
I really like Anthony Padilla’s intros as he mentions the sponsor but gets straight into the intro and video, having the full ad after some constant.
This is your channel, and it’s just a suggestion. Keen to learn all about this oddly growing community! 🌏
I have a hypothesis. They do not believe the Earth is flat. They want to believe the Earth is flat because it gives their life meaning and they get off on opposition.
You distinguish between actual and desire, so you're claiming flat Earthers are only wishing. Trouble is, they attend physical conferences, author well produce videos, commission custom apps, and drive each other away with accusations of being CIA plants. That takes more than wanting, that's actual, certain belief. I agree with the emotional foundation of belief, however, and claim such desires means they do actually believe.
@@warmachineuk Their time and effort put into tomfoolery does not prove their beliefs.
Many of the Flerfs with larger YT followings know the truth. Jeran has proven the shape of the Earth in an FE documentary, and then tried to deny it. But he makes money off of it. I think others like witsit know the truth as well, but it is easy money for them because their followers literally worship them. They are dispicable.
I have my moments when i think "I'm stupid..." but then i remind myself "well at least I'm not flat earther stupid."
Kudos man. If you ever feel like an idiot just watch a flat Earther and just be amazed that you're not an absolute moron!
@@Bladeofwar94 i have, it instantly makes me feel better 😃.
We always have our priests, man.
There were times when our priests said the earth is flat.
Then came along a guy....
He became the new priest.
You are not half as smart as you think you are. Even you remind yourself that you're not flat-earth-stupid.
@@manoman0 This comment shows your ignorance in spades. The difference b/t a priest and a scientist is one uses mathematics, rationales, and observation to deduce and discern the natural world. A priest says my holy book from 2000 years ago says that a magical sky daddy made everything and that you will burn in hell if you don't believe in it.
Honestly not arrogant enough to assume i'm smart, but compared to a flat earther I can confirm that i'm not a moron.
@@manoman0 it was a joke... I know I'm stupid 😂👌
Nobody can get to the ice wall because the penguins are guarding it. They may look cute but they've done their duty for millions of years and they're really, really good at it.
This is correct
One day, penguin skeletons might be discovered in the arctic. A bunch of them were fed up of being hunted by polar bears, so used an icefloe to escape... They ended up at the other end of the world. 🐧🐧
Alot of flat earth bs is based off creationist bs. So many seem to think the world is either 7,000 years old or 10,000 years old.
Hilarious. Thanks.
🐧🐧🐧
I'm over 80 and can't remember when there were no flat-Earthers; on slow news days, "human interest" coverage would profile such believers, with little editorial comment, the assumption being we'd all have a laugh. So nothing new; just attention seeking jerks. Too bad they CAN"T fall off the edge.
I don't understand. If their society ONLY accepts ideas that are proven then how can he justify his flat earth theory? I guess that rule was only for OTHER people's theories!
"And that is how we know the earth to be banana-shaped." -- Monty Python and the Search For the Holy Grail
came looking for this comment, and not only I wasn't disappointed, but I'm appalled by this scientific knowledge, now tell me again how can we use a sheep bladder to prevent earthquakes
Tis just a flesh wound
It’s just Monty python and the holy grail not search for the holy grail.
Where do I sign up for the monty python self defense class? I'm running late for my appointment at the ministry of silly walks.
More to the point, it's clear this banana shaped earth is the case, just look at the unfortunate tale of the Crimson Permanent Assurance. Clearly they strayed too close to the stem and fell off.
"Trolls are gonna troll. Look below for examples". Owhh.. That's a win for Simon.
6447912 Started scrolling immediately 😂
Got trolls out right now are trolls outside in online right now Trolls of hall not hell. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
@6447912 I pretended to be a flat earther and trolled FTFE
The big companies know Earth is flat, that's why all maps are rectangular!
I immediately stopped the vid to search comments and if it needs trolling.
Well! Calling your viewer more educated than ordinary folks gives you a thumbs up from me. 👍👍👍👍
Who started the Flat Earth theory? - An idiot.
How many people believe it? - Too many.
What do they believe? - A lie.
Your research?
@@whizkybent I've been around the world 3 times and haven't fallen off of an edge yet.😁
@@pugowner1347 around our center ring
@@whizkybent Nope. Around the spherical planet. If you wish to ignore science and live in the land of make believe, do it alone. I don't participate in other people's mythological fantasies any more than I do their sexual dysphoria and cognitive distortions. I suggest you try trolling elsewhere.
The Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.
My fav tweet
Best comment so far!
Uh, so does the Micky Mouse Club.
/whoosh
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha 😂
Flat earth society should be really worried about global warming, if the ice melts, there goes all our water over the edge!
😂😂😂
remember we are all living under the dome ^^ which means if ice wall surounding the edges will melt and whole water will rush in and flood all the continents. Unless the ice wall is outside the dome which would defeat all the porpoise of the ice wall.
Jeeeeeez Didn’t you know that global warming is a hoax
@@MissBlueEyeliner 😄 right totally forgot about like just like everything else is gov conspiracy
Mr. Fox the government have made frogs gay to use a secret military weapon.
Additionally there is a restaurant in Hope B.C., Canada that hosts the monthly meetings of the flat earth society, there is a small plaque next to some booth's. I thought this was people having a laugh until the restaurant was on the news for not adhering to COVID regulations. I found another restaurant to go to now.